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What would you do as Germany to win world war 2?

You are hitler. Your goal is eventual global domination. What choices would you make to ensure an axis success?
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>>663217
kill all the nazi fucks and replace them with people who are loyal but not as retarded
not antagonize the entire world
not be a total asshat to the natives on eastern front
make italy behave and japan chill
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>>663217
>What would you do as Germany to win world war 2?
>You are hitler. Your goal is eventual global domination.

As historical.

>What choices would you make to ensure an axis success?

The Axis can't succeed except in utmost defeat.
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Literally impossible.
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How far back are we Hitler?

'39?
'33?
'21?
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nothing
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Don't make the SS and Wehrmacht be such utter cunts, and try to force peace (even ante bellum) ASAP and for the love of god don't declare on USA.
Sit back and make BMWs and Volkswagens an Audis and hope to god no-one asks for their land back.

Then still get crushed by the shitty economy I made because I am an incompetent retard and german efficiency pre 1950s is a meme.
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>>>>>/lit/
>>>>>/pol/
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>>663384
>german efficiency pre 1950s is a meme.

nice b8 m8
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>>663217
A victory isn't possible, the inevitable can only be delayed. That is about as good as it gets.
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>>663217
50million germans vs 2.3billion allies

they never stood a chance but

>not promise mexico parts of the US
>offer japan access to soviet oil fields for help
>tell them not attacking murica
>tell the US to side with democratically elected socialists rather than communists
>stall until atom bomb is finished
>level london
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>>663248
are you gay? I think you are gay bro
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>>663217
I don't see a way in which they could win with the cards stacked against them as they were
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>>663440
There were 85 mil Germans by the time war broke out and Germans moreover had allies of their own.
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>>663440
>>not promise mexico parts of the US
This was WW1 you moron.

>offer japan access to soviet oil fields for help
Good point, getting Japan as an ally was the solution to Germany's problems and would have won the war.

>>tell the US to side with democratically elected socialists rather than communists
I lol'd

>>stall until atom bomb is finished
Germany wasn't working on the atom bomb.
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force franco to close the strait of gibraltar in 1941 (no supplies for the allies in africa), win war in northern africa,
don't attack russia in 1941,
defeat the uk,
attack russia together with japan and italy in spring of 1942, defeat russia, help japan defeat china and asia, conquer southern africa and the middle east, conquer australia, build a massive army from all countries i invaded, attack america.
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>>663525
>how would germany win?
>by winning
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>>663384
> for the love of god don't declare on USA
Thats not how you spell USSR.
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starting alternative history thread should be autoban.
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Directly attack Moscow in July 41 instead of heading south to secure Kiev.
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>>663563
I see this one repeated but the thing is - so you somehow get to Moscow. You get there and somehow you capture the city - let's say you got lucky and somehow only experience weeks and not months of brutal urban combat, as has been the norm for contested cities in WW2, Stalingrad being the prime example. So your supply lines are stretched even more than in the real timeline, as more forces are concentrated at Moscow, the Soviet government is safe many miles east as it had been evacuated, and granted, you control a major transport hub. You are also faced with the prospect of the entirety of the Soviet southern command, literally the strongest force of the Red Army at this particular time, unengaged, undefeated and threatening your entire axis of advance, your entire right flank. How does that make you win the war.
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don't attack Russia
don't buddy up with Japan
force peace ASAP
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>>663522
>Germany wasn't working on the atom bomb.
bruh
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>>663611
>be on /his/tory board
>doesn't know any history
bruh
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>>663217
>Your goal is eventual global domination
This wasn't Hitlers goal.
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>>663654
Most of Hitler's life he thought Germans were the supreme race guaranteed to dominate the world.

Late in 1945 he changed his mind, regarding Germans, and viewed the Slavs as the dominant race for some reason.

Throughout his live, apart from his early years of being psychosexually abused, Hitler viewed racial global dominance as inevitable.
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>>663217
Germany would have never been able to win WW2, WW1 is a different story
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>>663746
Germany was even less capable of winning WW1.
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>don't attack russia in 1941
>divert forces to north africa
>take malta with paratroopers and italian navy
>coerce Franco into letting german troops pass through spanish soil
>take gibraltar and close straits
>take tobruk
>resupply afrika corps via tobruk
>take Suez and close it
>force british out of somaliland
>advance on middle east

here comes the tricky part;
>offer favourable peace terms with britain which she would accept at this point and hope she accepts
>only one counterdemand; sell oil to Japan
>persuade japan to join in anti-comintern alliance
>rally europe in anti-socialist cause
>attack soviet simoultaneously with the japanese and kwantung forces
>do not antagonize or starve out russian occupied zones
>profit

you lose, stalin

There's some hiccups. If the British don't accept peace terms, they won't surrender until after Singapore and Burma have fallen. A russian invasion would prefereable start as early as possible in 1942 after the spring thaw.
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1940
blow Hitler's brains out
sue for peace
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would be possible
a) to stop after annexation of Austria and Czechoslovakia? Or was industry oriented and people hyped for war too much?
b) persuade France, Britain and Poland to attack USSR together to destroy communist menace?
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>>663777
>to stop after annexation of Austria and Czechoslovakia? Or was industry oriented and people hyped for war too much?
It was possible for Germany to stop expansion, though almost certainly impossible to keep Austria and Czechoslovakia and to prevent economic ruin, hyperinflation and the toppling of the Nazi regime.

>persuade France, Britain and Poland to attack USSR together to destroy communist menace?
No, what a retarded idea.
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>>663748
If Willhelm II didnt fuck up Bismarcks alliance systems, WW1 would have been an easy win for Germany
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>>663749
This answer is good.
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>>663585

At this stage in the war I'm reasonably confident in the ability of German troops to work against any soviet counter offensive. There's a reason why they mostly failed with large losses etc
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>>663824
Your post is completely meaningless. Why did you bother making it?
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>>663903
how is my post meaningless?
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>>663910
Because it's vague and speculative to a point where it cannot be said to have any content.
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>>663217

>You are hitler

well i most likely fail miserably, cause the most devestating war in history and then run of to argentina, since im a autistic tranny with no understanding of how the world works
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The only way is a very long-term stop-and-start war of questionable intention.

Constant aggression could not have possibly ended in an axis success. They should have played the long game, feigning a humanitarian focus for years building up military and economic power and announcing seemingly economically taxing projects for global benefit while secretly establishing an unstoppable potency for conquest.

Even this is unlikely to perfectly succeed but no strategy could have won in the end with conventional and direct warfare against the allies.
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>>663918
My point was, that Germany lost WW1 because it broke Bismarks alliance system, so Germany (and useless Austria) was fighting alone against the whole world
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>>663929
So your point was, Germany was fighting alone, except it wasn't, and if it had magically had different allies, it would've done better. Wow, a great fucking post. You should write this shit up and publish it.
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>>663936
what do you mean by "magically"?
It would have been completely possible for Germany to have different allies, if they didn't fuck up the alliance system established by Bismarck
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>>663672
That is what allied propaganda stated, but in reality he just wanted a small war, he wanted Poland.
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>>663749
USSR was planning to steamroll Europe in the 1940s though, even before Hitler attacked.
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>>663950
You can't have a warlike policy and Bismarck's alliance system, as the latter depended on being able to convince Europe that Germany did not have expansionist goals. And even then Bismarck was never able to get any of Britain, France, Russia on Germany's side; in fact Germany's relations with France and Russia only worsened.
You need to stop thinking that Bismarck was some magician who could make any country ally with Germany.
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Don't start a two front war. Finish a front before going to the other. Sea Lion is impossible without an actual navy and dedicated marine assault craft, so unless I'm allowed to build those magically the brits can fellate themselves. Step up aerial convoy raids and starve them.

If Germany was able to prosecute Barbarossa with the divisions they had masturbating in france and norway that might have given them the edge they needed. People underestimate how close the soviet union was to losing in late 1941. The soviets lost almost as many men as they did in Kiev at Vyazma, right in front of Moscow. Another victory like that may have forced Stalin to capitulate; he honestly asked Zhukov if they could win. Big Z being who he was, just said sure but give me an army that I'm not sure where we got from.

Now this would depend on Zhukov not being a pain in the ass like he historically was. In this alt history I would get him assassinated. Hopefully that would get Leningrad in my pocket.

More men, mind you, would be far from the only step. Logistics would be far easier If the offensive began earlier, so fuck Italy's dumbshittery down in Greece.

Cooperation with the russians and ukrainians would also be key. Instead of prosecuting the wasteful bullshit about untermenschen build popular support in the nations you're telling your rank and file you're actually liberating and totally not subjugating.

Mobilize German industry instead of acting like the war will be won in six months in case things inevitably don't go as planned.
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>>663981
WW1 wasnt about germany exanding though, was it?
And Bismarcks diplomatic policy was all about keeping France isolated, had Russia and Britain remained neutral in WW1, Germany would have had way better chances of winning
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>>663964
There's no real substantial evidence for this and certainly nothing that points out that soviet plans were in any way gearing for war by even 1942.

This theory comes from the fact that soviet armies deployed in offensive rather than defensive formations in 1941 but the thing is... Soviet armies were ALWAYS deployed in offensive formation back then - and Stalin's eagerness to delay war had him even execute spies that were warning of Hitler's plans for aggression.
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>>664024
> Soviet armies were ALWAYS deployed in offensive formation back then

This

A today army is a rude army
-Yo Seth Stale In
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Realize it won't happen in my lifetime no matter what I do.

I'd make a stable, production based economy and focus on gaining allies in Europe. Appeal to a grand sense of euro ethnic nationalism against Russia, soon to be my primary rival.

Goad Russia into war with me and have the other European countries help me slay the red menace. Then claim Russian and East European clay for the Reich. I know I'd have to split it with France and England and some other chicken shit euro countries but that wont matter before long.

Then I'd politicaly maneuver France and England into engaging in their old rivalry. I'd also keep low on the Jew stuff until those Jew scientists can build me an atomic bomb.

Then I'd blitzkrieg France and take it over like real life. Hopefully Britain will hate them enough at this point to be apathetic but if they don't and decide to declare war on me I'd drop a nuke over the English Channel as a negotiating chip.

I'd take French colonial holdings, distance myself from the Japs, and then just take British possessions in Eastern Europe and Russia.

Then, in a gracious showing of generosity, I'd pull out if France and offer to rebuild the country, Marshall plan style. Since I have the nuke these cheese sniffing fucks will know what will happen if they take Britain or America's offer.

Then I'd force and open border and flood France with Germans. With France economically tied to me and with a large, new, and very vocal German cohort, ill essentially control the country.

Then I'd just hunker down and go into the inevitable cold war with Britain and America as they get nukes of their own.

I don't know how to get out of this but I think it involves turning the Anglo sphere against one another.
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>>663522
>Germany wasn't working on the atom bomb.

Norwegian partisans are weeping that we've forgotten their sacrifice.
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>>664100
Germany had stopped their atomic weapons program in 1942 or thereabouts, and no amount of sacrifices by Norwegian partisans was going to change that.
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>HITLER WANTED TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD
Jesus christ.
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>>663961
Bruv. No. Back to pol. Go read about the hunger plan. Go read mein kampf, for fuck's sake, and have hitler spell it out for you himself.
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>>663927

So, just do it 'Murican style?
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Im hitler? Grab nearest gun and killmyself because zhe only good german is a dead one
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>>663749

Would never work.

>divert forces to north africa

Without greater supplies, more forces in North Africa won't help much.

>take malta with paratroopers and italian navy

Doable

>coerce Franco into letting german troops pass through spanish soil

Extremely unlikely. Franco isn't going to be very keen on thousands if not more German troops in his country that he can't make them leave if you want them to stay. If you want to go through Spain, you'll probably have to invade and unseat Franco.

>resupply afrika corps via tobruk

Extremely implausible, with the level of competence the Italian navy historically displayed. Tobruk isn't really coverable from airbases in Sicily, and if you relocate a Luftflotte or two to North Africa, then you expand your logistical needs, because the planes themselves need to be fueled, issued spare parts, piloted, etc.

>take Suez and close it

How the hell are you going to break the Qattara line? Or the Nile line if you somehow get through the former? Even if everything you outlined above goes swimmingly (it won't) the British still have the enormous advantage of totally secure lines through the gulf of Aden and railroads, and you don't. They can concentrate forces in a way that they couldn't when fighting in Libya or western Egypt, and if you bring 200,000 troops, they'll bring 400,000.

>advance on middle east

Even if you can somehow do the above (ha!) you'd either have to go by sea, which means digging the British out of Aden, an extremely difficult task, or you get to have all the fun of repeating your desert logistical problems again, since you don't have railroad connectivity between Syria or Jordan and Iraq.
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>offer favourable peace terms with britain which she would accept at this point and hope she accepts

Why would she accept? As long as Churchill is in power, there's not going to be peace.

>attack soviet simoultaneously with the japanese and kwantung forces

What good would the nips be? Even after Barbarossa was launched, Soviet forces in the Far East never dropped below 700,000. And there's only one railroad to advance along. You might capture Vladivostok, but you won't do anything more.

And Britain isn't likely to surrender for anything short of a sealion or mass starvation in the home island itself, neither of which are really within your reach.
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>>664184
>Hitler wanted to take over Europe and then stop and make a vegetable garden
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>>664272
Go back to read it.
Provide accurate sources to back up your claims.
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>>663217
Don't stop at Dunkirk.

Britain was hard pressed as it is. If the BEF had been obliterated or ideally captured wholesale Britain would have been out of the game before any other warring nations joined the fight.

Germany would have either had no war with Russia or at least a one front war.
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>>664311
Hitler wanted to take back lands that were taken from Germany, and then continue on to fight the Red Terror in the east.
That's about it.
He has no intentions of "taking over the whole world". Simply impossible and ludicrous to suggest.
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>>664316
Please explain how the destruction of 10 divisions, when there are at least 14 more in England alone, the annihilation of which will be difficult on your overextended panzer force and give the French a chance to recover is even remotely a good idea, or how it would force the UK to bow out.
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>>664316
>Maj. Gen. J.F.C. Fuller, in his concise and perceptive review of the military questions involved, pointed out that Rundstedt first ordered Hoth's and Kleist's Panzer Groups to temporarily halt on the evening of 23 May. "In the circumstances this was a sound decision. The German armored divisions needed rest and an overhaul... The truth is, that the whole area was one vast tank obstacle, and that Hitler, who had a better understanding of the capability of tanks than most of his generals, considered their use in the Dunkirk area would be an 'incredible blunder'... The evacuation was a phenomenal success, as so many British retreats have been... The causes of the success were outside German control." Fuller, A Military History of the Western World, Vol. III: From the Seven Days Battle, 1862, to the Battle of Leyte Gulf, 1944 (Minerva Press, 1967) pp. 400-404.
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>>664331
because those 10 divisions would cause problems later in north africa. there were many talented allied officers in dunkirk who would later rise to fame fighting rommel
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>>664331
10 divisions is a pretty severe blow, especially if their local total including that is a measly 24 divisions.

That said directly assaulting dunkirk may have been out of the picture, but eviscerating their transports with the luftwaffe wasn't as far as I know
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>>664353

Except that most divisions in North Africa were Indian or ANZAC, not British.

And please, the British officer quality in WW2 was abysmal. If everyone at Dunkirk dies, they'll be replaced by people just as mediocre.
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>>664369
>but eviscerating their transports with the luftwaffe wasn't as far as I know
What do you think the Germans did in actual history, senpai?
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>>664369
Eviscerating the transports with the Luftwaffe was what they tried historically. Didn't work out do great.

And yeah, it'll hurt, but it'll hurt in the wrong places, since Germany doesn't have the capacity for a Sealion and Churchill wasn't even the PM who dispatched the BEF, insulating him politically.
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>>663983
>Logistics would be far easier If the offensive began earlier, so fuck Italy's dumbshittery down in Greece.
logistics and weather did not permit an earlier start - dumbshiterry down in greece had no real effect on the start date of barbarossa
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>>663440
>level london
>level the capital city of the least threatening member of the allies, accomplishing nothing and in the process giving the whole of Europe and North America and the British Empire an excuse to attack you

a-are you retarded?
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>>664317
>Hitler wanted to take back lands that were taken from Germany, and then continue on to fight the Red Terror in the east.
why did he take austria and czechoslovakia then?
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lebensraum Africa, leave the East alone
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>>664499
Austria voted to join Germany, and Czechoslovakia was partially Germany peoples.
Mainly to push towards the red terror in the east.
Him taking regional lands doesn't prove he wanted to "take over the world"
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>>664527
but you said he wanted to take back lands that were taken from germany, you said nothing about czechoslovakia "being partially Germany peoples", whatever that means
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>>664306

I disagree but I've been through this debate a thousand times already and as bad as Germanboos are, anti-Rommel boos are fucking worse. God damnit.

Trust me, it's doable. Just trust me. The supply problem everyone keeps bringing up is shit.
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>>664499
Austria had a vote to join, the western borders of Czechoslovakia had a damn good amount of Germans. Taking lands that have a majority of German people in them isn't "world domination" you fucking idiot.
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>>664535
>Trust me, it's doable. Just trust me. The supply problem everyone keeps bringing up is shit.
this is probably the most pathetic series of sentences written on /his/ in its existence
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>>664537
>Austria had a vote to join

You know how I can tell you don't know anything about history?
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>>664534
>whatever that means
That means that parts of Czech lands were German, not Czech.
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>>664537
but i never said anything about world domination, why do you keep moving further and further away from the point made in >>664499
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>>664539
>this is probably the most pathetic series of sentences written on /his/ in its existence

Nope, not as pathetic as endless discussions without any basis whatsoever on wether the Afrika Korps could be supplied via Tobruk or not.

Discussing at length the supply situation of a hypothetical german victory in North Africa... Now THAT'S pathetic.
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>>664542
yes, it is true that czechoslovakia had a german minority population, i believe no one is disputing that
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>>664534
Yes my dear babbling moron.
Would you care to read the second half of the sentence?
Waging a European land war is very complicated.
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>>664541
A referendum was held in Austria in 1938. After the majority vote was to join Germany, German troops moved into Austria.
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>>663217
>Your goal is eventual global domination. What choices would you make to ensure an axis success?

Change my goal would be my first act.
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>>664571

You've got the order of things confused...
The plebiscite was held AFTER German troops marched into Austria...
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>>664567
i agree that waging wars is complicated however you said that he, and I quote, "wanted to take back lands that were taken from Germany"
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>>664535
Why don't you tell Martin Van Creveld he doesn't know what he's talking about?
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>>664591

Same reason you dont tell Bevin Alexander?
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>>664574
Yes. The day before the vote, the Wehrmacht moved in to prepare for a military parade. Seems like an invasion to me.
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>>664581
Yes.
Can you read the second half of the sentence?
"And wage a war againts the red terror"
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>>664527
>Austria voted to join Germany
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>>664612
so how exactly did he wage war against the red terror by annexing austria and czechoslovakia
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>>664610
Yes.
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>>664636
They did.
>>664644
Austria wasn't apart of that. Completly different situation, but apart of the idea of "unifying the German people".
Czechoslovakia bordered Germany on the east next to Poland, both apart of the "unifying of the German people" and then to wage war to the east.
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>>663387
german economy was shit, this is not a meme
ex. there were public works had to be inmplemented in silesia so people wouldn't starve to death
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>>664655
Please provide primary sources.
The entirety of the German economy was revolutionized and was succesful for pulling out of the depression that the rest of the world sat in. They eliminated their private bank and drastically reduced unemployment and suicide rate.
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>>664662
>Inflationary spending and racking up debt is "revolutionary and successful"
Toppest of lels!
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Shave the tache and get myself a better haircut.

Give the people of the USSR an impression that they'll be better off under my regime than they were under Stalin. This ties into what this anon is saying >>663384 about Wehrmacht.

It's mind-boggling to me how fucking retarded Germans were with the way the approached the average Russian populace during the war.

Other than that, I don't know, I'm not a military tactician. Maybe find some way of showing the Italians how to wage war because they were fucking embarrassing the Axis over and over.
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>>663217
offer the allies a deal return german lands in echange for being a buffer state against the commie and support of jewish state
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>>664662
Germany lingered in depression longer than France and Britain.

>They eliminated their private bank
What?

>drastically reduced unemployment
Tends to happen when you have 4 million young men in active service in the army.
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>>664677
Hitler mustache is actually pretty fab.
Too bad it'll never be acceptable again.
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>>664673
>>664685
Excellent primary sources.
At this point we can claim the holocaust didn't happen and Hitler was the embodiment of Wodan.
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>>664603

>Adjunct professor whose seminal work on the subject gets V-E day wrong.
>Actual professor whose doctoral thesis became one of the hallmarks of military history and whose work as an academic landed him contemporary government security analytic work.

Bevin Alexander is a joke, and that you think invoking his name relieves you of even the necessity to make an argument is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
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>>664691
Excellent primary sources yourself, m8.
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>>664697
I asked for them and then began making ludicrous claims as to show the infancy of the poster not providing them.
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>>664692

Sure thing mr 4chan expert :^)
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>>663217
>global domination
Yeah, no. There is no way Germany could achieve full-on global domination. Expanded territory, yes; the whole shebang, no. So, the first thing I would do is choose a far more sensible goal. Then work from there depending on the goal.
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>>664689
Eh, maybe it is fab, but I wouldn't say it was good looking on Hitler. Maybe it's the culture today fucking with my worldview but the tache just made his mental problems more apparent.
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>>664710
First of all, no one's going to provide primary sources for synthesized statements. It's pretty obvious that you don't even know what "primary source" is.

Second, I'm not him but check out Adam Tooze, Wages of Destruction. There are a bunch of academic journal articles that say the same thing, but Tooze's book is easily available from Amazon and provides a comprehensive account of German economic shenanigans between Versailles and WW2.
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>>663248
But the Junker class wasn't all that loyal. Hitler hated them and the feeling was mutual. They were loyal to the idea of Germany, and the idea that soldiers are supposed to be loyal to their government, regardless of political disagreements. Getting rid of your core supporters would just collapse your regime before anything else happened. Of course, keeping your core supporters makes the other goals on your list more difficult. A true dilemma.
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>>664714
How Hitler Could Have Won World War II: The Fatal Errors That Led to Nazi Defeat (2001)

>on MARCH 4 the German high command surrendered to Montgomery all forces in northwest Germany

Captialization mine.
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>>664733

We're not debating the V-E date.
What you're doing now is just classic character assassination which is irrelevant to the topic we're discussing. A clerical error regarding a different topic doesn't mean his views on a possible victory in North Africa should be disregarded.

If you can't look beyond that, then I've got news for you kid...

You're an autist. Because that's what autists do.

The reason I don't wanna debate it is because I'm certain of my point of view and you're certain of yours. There's not gonna be any winner in this discussion because nobody should be taking a discussion on 4chan seriously. And even if I were to convince you, that wouldn't mean jack shit. Because Rommel will still have lost.

I've stated what I would have done as Hitler. There's a thousand things that could have helped me and there's a thousand things that could have stopped me. Until time travel is possible, there's no way we'll know.
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>>664765

>What you're doing now is just classic character assassination which is irrelevant to the topic we're discussing. A clerical error regarding a different topic doesn't mean his views on a possible victory in North Africa should be disregarded.

It goes to his credibility, which is especially important since you refuse to even entertain the possibility that he might be wrong.>>664535 Missing out on such a basic, basic detail shows a severe lack of competence.

But you want to talk about the topic we're discussing? How come Alexander doesn't mention the horrific losses to Italian shipping, you know, including all those strikes that DIDN'T come out of Malta, but were instead spearheaded from bases in places like Alexandria? How do you stop the British from doing what they did historically, i.e. blowing up Tobruk's port before they surrender? How do you prevent the British from massing half a million troops in Egypt by the time you're ready to assault Alexandria if you're making a big play for Egypt?

Blithely asserting that "No Barbarossa= unlimited resources in all other theaters", which is the thrust of Alexander's work, is playing a game of Risk and substituting it for actual knowledge.


>You're an autist. Because that's what autists do.
>There's not gonna be any winner in this discussion because nobody should be taking a discussion on 4chan seriously.


Oooh, the ultimate cry of the imbecile who can't defend his point. If you don't want to make serious discussion, if you don't want to convince the lurkers, don't whine when someone who actually knows what they're talking about trashes your pretty little arguments. Grow a pair.
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> What choices would you make to ensure an axis success?
Don't go into war until at least nuclear weapons.
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>extend war more than a few months
>get nuked

I'd be actively looking for ways to sabotage the war effort in such a way that we got took by the Allies instead of the Soviets.
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>>664806
The Allies and the Soviets had divided up Germany and Europe well before the end of the war.
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>>664818
I mean sabotage things early in the war.

Before the Battle of France, preferably.
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>>664788

tl;dr
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>>663217
>Your goal is eventual global domination.

I seriously doubt that was Hitler's goal.
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dont invade the soviets, instead invade england
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>>665151
with what airforce and what navy
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>>663217
>Your goal is eventual global domination
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>>663440
why would you nuke london? your ass is getting nuked in retaliation regardless
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>first things first, tell the Italians to fuck off
> Take France
> sue for temporary peace with Britain
> tell jews in Europe you want to give them their lands back
> invade balkans and middle east with Jewish shock troops
> ask Britain and America for help fighting Russian menace
> don't declare war on America with Japan
> invade Russia in spring
> push them past the urals
> engage in zero urban warfare instead shelling cities to the ground
> declare peace in Europe, send aid to Americans in war against japs
> give jews the middle east, though set up economy Ala Britain and India so all oil goes through Germany
>invest heavily in manufacturing and R&D
> within the next decade hold nuclear bomb tests, build jets, and super subs
> too many variables after that, holding France is too damaging to public image though
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>>663522
> implying the zimmerman telegram wasnt a crock of shit
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>>663522
>>stall until atom bomb is finished
Germany wasn't working on the atom bomb.

>What is the Hard water raid?
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>>664382
SEA LION is the only answer to this
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Don't go to war
Concentrate on building high-tech Autobahns
Invest in technology
Appoint Speer to build gigantic epic cities
Turn Germany into a futuristic cyberpunk Nazi society
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>>665277
You mean the amphibious invasion of England which would require air superiority or supremacy, which Germany was unable of attaining, a strong naval presence to counter the British fleets, which Germany did not possess, and a sufficient number of of useful landing craft, which Germany did not have either?
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>>665293
If you knock out the RAF then it could have happened, but still would have failed
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>>665226

Why would Britain grant you a "temporary peace"? Churchill hates your guts. You just knocked over their big ally on the continent, but simultaneously don't have any real means of striking them at their island. Why not keep bombing you, and overrunning things in North Africa.
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Not make the terrible mistake of invading Russia and declaring war against the USA.
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>>665335

Not him, but how the hell are you going to knock out the RAF? If things go real bad, they rebase their fighters up in the midlands where you can't bomb them on the ground, at least not if you want them to have fighter cover. And with the radar advantage the brits have, pretty much any attempt will be spotted and you'll have a swarm of angry spitfires and hurricanes ready to shoot you down if you try.
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>>664727
the trick is to not be a huge faggot so that people will respect you

everyone in history who successfully did what he was trying did it that way. many were retarded, awful or uselessly cruel but they managed to convince someone and thats how they got a shot.
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>>665337
>Churchill hates your guts.
Make sure Churchill actually dies in a car crash this time
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>>665378

In 1942? By then it's too late.
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>>664272
I bet you don't even know about Hitler's Second Book. Back to r├ęddit.
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>>664024
>There's no real substantial evidence for this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy
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>>664308
This desu.
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>>665411
If you seriously believe in Rezun's bullshit, I'd like to present to you some new groundbreaking research by another great Russian historian Fomenko:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_%28Fomenko%29
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>>665738
You owe me several IQ points I lost from reading through that nonsense, anon.
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>>663672
>psychosexually abused
wot
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>stop after Invading France and not invade the Soviet Union
>don't start any wars after that
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>>663217
>You are hitler. Your goal is eventual global domination.

Do people actually believe this?
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>>664571
>>664610
>>664653
You are goddamn moron. I'm from Austria and I can fucking tell you what every historian will tell you: Austria was already a fascist dicatorship before Hitler got it and Italy protected her.

When Hitler and Mussolini came to terms, Austria was fucked. Hitler pretty much said to the chancelor schuschnigg: bend over.

Austria had no choice. They were annexed and that's that. Nobody gave a shit. The referendum was held AFTER Hitler marched in and you pretty much had to vote yes. There were armed guard looking over your shoulder and the correct answer was a bigger circle than the wrong answer.

So go and be stupid somewhere else.
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>>663217
Do everything the same up to conquering France.
Negotiate peace in exchange for former German land and cancellation of the Versailles Treaty
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