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Why does Northern Ireland exist? Seems like it would make more sense for the whole country to be united since it is in fact an island.
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>>596642
Epicthread upboated my dear gentlesir
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>>596642
Have ye not heard of The Troubles?
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>>596649

Yeah but why does it still exist
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Why do countries exist? Seems like it would make more sense for all of humanity to be united since Earth is in fact an island in space.
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>>596655
not yet buddy a few things need to be taken care off
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>>596642
I agree with you. The U.K. should just control the whole thing.
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NI is:
99 percent white
Far right wing
No feminists
No SJWs
allowed guns and open carry permits
Proud of their cultural
Patriotic
no gay marriage or abortion
everyone is religious
best primary school education in Europe
Ireland:
filled with feminists
bringing in loads of non whites
not allowed to be patriotic
not allowed guns
legalised gay marriage and abortion
not religious
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>>596910
> NI
> White
Thought it was filled with Irish and British people?
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>>596910
Feels good.
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>>596642
I ask myself this everyday.
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>>596923
>Not 'Feel Derry'
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>>596910
Considering NI was a terrorist filled shithole for years and is now one of the poorest parts of the U.K. and Ireland has one of the highest HDIs and standard of livings in the world I wouldn't be quick to praise one over the other because one is more traditional
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Becuase the people there are mostly Protestant and would rather stay in the UK. Contrary to what micks would have you believe, only a few people there want unification with the rest of Ireland.
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>>596933
>now one of the poorest parts of the U.K.

meme.
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>>596910

>99 percent white

99% white and 50% Irish? I dont think so

>Far right wing
>No feminists
>No SJWs
>allowed guns and open carry permits

No

>Proud of their cultural

Which is what, bonfires and heroin?

>Patriotic

Far more patriotic about England than the English, which is quite pathetic since they are Scottish

>no gay marriage or abortion

Yet full of repressed gays living double lives and getting married, really good stuff there

>everyone is religious

Pretty sure only nutjobs are, born again christains who believe in creationism is also not good

>best primary school education in Europe

See above

>not allowed to be patriotic

Its 100 years since the 1916 rising and its literally all thats going to be discussed for the next year.
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Because for the most part it's populated by Scottish and Northern English settlers (often referred to as Ulster-Scots) who identify as British rather than Irish, a largely religious island still; the protestant north would rather stay with the United Kingdom than be subject to the devoutly Catholic Republic of Ireland.


All those Yanks and Micks who claim that Ireland should have the territory because they were the majority a few hundred years ago, are usually the same lot who will be the first to denounce Israel and support Palestine despite the fact that in this case the Israelis would have the same historical claim as the Republic of Ireland
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>>596939

25% is the number who actively vote for Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland (50% or less turnout in elections though) , and probably 99% of people in the Republic of Ireland want it, so thats pretty much a clear majority.
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>>596942
Nice strawman and ad hominems
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>>596954
>devoutly Catholic

>gay marriage and abortion
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>>596954

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/catholic-majority-in-northern-ireland-to-present-dilemma-for-britain-and-republic-1.438788

>Figures from Northern Ireland’s Department of Education for 2010/11 show 120,415 Protestants and 163,693 Catholics in the North’s schools.
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>>596961

Do you know what ad hominem means?
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>>596971
Fuck off taig your "republic" is a rogue state it belongs to the British Empire.
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>>596977

Thats an ad hominem
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>>596969
Many of Northern Ireland's 'protestants' are non-practicing and the Protestant church is split into multiple denominations, whilst the Catholics in Ulster are more militant and devout in their support due to their minority status, while those who identify with neither catholicsm or protestant are more likely to support the status quo than joining the Republic of Ireland owing to their more socially conservative status, cultural and family ties, as well as the better performing British economy.

the 1973 referendum also exists.


>>596977
>Implying we want them back
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>>596982
Which was my point. You shot the first ad hominem by seeing repressed gays.
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>>596958
Well, probably 99% of people in the United States would support annexing the isle in its entirety as the 51st state. Compare our 320 million to your 6 million, that's pretty much a clear majority.
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>>596991
>Many of Northern Ireland's 'protestants' are non-practicing

Simply not true. Everyone I know goes to church here.
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>>596991

>due to their minority status

But they are the majority from this year onwards
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>>596998
Nope.

Republicans are still the minirotity. Catholics might be the majority but most of them are unionists.
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>>596992

I've seen and met loads of obviously gay people in northern ireland who are married and have kids and everybody is in denial about their gayness despite being blatant flaming queers, its only an ad hominem if you are one yourself or your dad is.
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>>596998
I should mention your source is the Irish times, a paper based in the Republic of Ireland, and that 57.6% Catholic figure is radically different from the census result only 1 year earlier with the country classed as only 40.8% Catholic
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>>596998
>But they are the majority from this year onwards

Catholicism =/= Republicanism

You can be a protestant republican, or a catholic unionist you know
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>>597013
>>597009
>>597001
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>>597009

57.6% of school children are Catholic and Catholics are the majority in every age group below 40-44, so obviously Irish Catholics will be the majority very soon and will likely climb to 65% of the population in some time, and then inevitably vote for unification since only about 2% of Catholics vote for actual Unionist parties since those politicans are heavily involved in the Orange Order which is KKK style anti-Catholic organisation.

There is pretty much no scenario where Irish unification wont happen, the predictable resurgence of Unionist terrorist violence against Catholics due to the unstoppable demographic shift will only speed the process up.
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>>597074
Won't ever happen because most of the catholics are benefit scroungers who wouldn't vote for a united ireland because the Queen pays them to exist.
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>>596954
>despite the fact that in this case the Israelis would have the same historical claim as the Republic of Ireland
>steppe nigger khazaris, spaniard sephardis and ashkenazis have the same claim to israel as the irish do to ulster
schlomo pls go
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>>597079

Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>597088
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-22555672
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>>597096
>>597088
>The figures give a detailed breakdown of how Catholics regard their national identity. One in 10 Catholics said they felt British.

>Only a small number of Protestants - less than 10% - said they felt Irish.

lol
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>>597099

>One in 10 Catholics said they felt British.

But I thought they were all Unionists like it says in the thread?
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>>596642
>Seems like it would make more sense for the whole country to be united since it is in fact an island.
Do you, by chance, have autism?
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>>597132
>being on /his/
>not having map autism

I bet you don't even vicky2
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>>597132

Its literally a random squiggle drawn on a map. Why are Brits so bad at drawing borders?
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>>597154
>Its literally a random squiggle drawn on a map.


Are you retarded? It was drawn according to the six majority protestant counties in Ireland...
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Are they going to redraw it now since only 2 of those 6 still have a Protestant majority? It would probably solve the whole thing.
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Most people in that region of Ireland wish to remain part of the United Kingdom. The majority elsewhere in Ireland wish to be independent.
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>>597172

>>597099

90% of Catholics dont feel British
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>>596863
Yeah, niggers.
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>>597181
>>596958

Most catholics I know are pretty passive about it these days and just want to keep the status quo, I would even go so far to say if anything they lean towards the UK.
As for Sinn Fein, pretty much everyone has lost faith in Stormont these days. Only the die hards vote really.
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>>597172
Also, this.
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>>597181
Your point is?
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>>597221

Is it possible they are only telling you what you want to hear as a unionist in the interest of avoiding personal conflict?
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>>596642
Perfidious Albion

Perform ethnic cleansing by transplanting a bunch of Protestant Britons to Ulster and then pretend like it belongs to the UK because the "people" who aren't Irish in the first place would rather stay British
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>>597253
Is it possible you're suggesting that to him as a Republican to avoid accepting the truth
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>>596910
NI is pretty shit desu.
Not even Ireland wants it and the UK has no one to dump it on.
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>>597086
>khazaris
Opinion discarded.
>>>/pol/
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>>597265

How do you define a "republican"?
And anyway how is some anecdote evidence of truth, a couple of people said something so everybody feels the same way? If I was a "republican" or anything else I would not tell somebody I was when there is a high chance they would get offended. Would a racist actually tell black people they are racist, etc?
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>>596910

>Implying any of that shit about NI is true
>Implying NI would be a nice place to live even if that was true

Have fun getting gangrene in your needle arm faggot.
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>>596941
Its all goverment jobs though.
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>>597262
Yeah, this is why the USA should be returned to the Native Americans.
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>>597253
Telling someone you're a unionist/nationalist really isn't a point of conflict outside of places like the Shankill Road, contrary to what some would have you believe.
>>597279
I get that my one experience clearly doesn't represent the entire country, but most people who actually look into the whole issue would see that it's just logical to stay in the UK
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>>597331
>Telling someone you're a unionist/nationalist really isn't a point of conflict outside of places like the Shankill Road, contrary to what some would have you believe.
This. I even call my taig friends taigs
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>>596642
Dey tuk ar fleg !
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>>599572
related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XckDlD0OM8s
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>>596653
cuz the brits stole it and wont give it back
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>>596933
>terrorist
I think you mean "freedom fighter" familio
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>>597001
confirmed for talking out of your ass
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>>597079
Irish dole is way more money though
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From Northern Ireland

Ask something
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>>601718
Don't you think the separation is pointless now that both Ireland and NI are just going to get swamped with immigrants? What is it they are attempting to separate from, for whose benefit?
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>>596642
>Why
>>>/pol/itics
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>>597160
>six majority protestant counties in Ireland...
They weren't all majority protestant, they took all the economically productive catholic areas too
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>>601718
>Ask something
Why is northern buckfast so watery?
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>>596655
give it a few years yet. also nice double dubs.
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>>601718

What do you think will change (if any) in Northern Ireland in 10, 20 and 50 years time?
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>>596655
Dubs never lies
guys
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>Northern Ireland
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>>603970
Maybe the question is "How does Northern Ireland exist?"
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>>603970

/his/ related

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Pig's_Dyke

>The Black Pig's Dyke (Irish: Claí na Muice Duibhe)[1] or Worm's Ditch (Irish: Claí na Péiste)[1] is a series of discontinuous linear earthworks in southwest Ulster and northeast Connacht, Ireland

>The timber structure was radiocarbon-dated to 390–370 BCE

>Unionists believe this constitutes evidence that Ulster has always been seperate from Ireland and their ancestors migrated first to Scotland before coming make to Ulster, making them the true natives
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>>604238
>their ancestors migrated first to Scotland before coming make to Ulster, making them the true natives
This bit isn't very contentious. There has always been very strong cultural and ethnic exchange between Ulster and western Scotland. It's not all a product of the Ulster Plantation.
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>>604332

No but then it becomes this>>603970
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