Does anyone else feels Martin went a bit to far there?
I mean, sure, antisemitism was very common in church culture, but what he says there is just completely radical; "burn the synagogues", "expel them all" and so such, it's basically /pol/ tier. This is far cry from the medieval/late renaissance status quo that was achieved in the treatment of the Jews, wherein they get to do their money stuff as long as they stay on the margins of society.
What was the point of ML's text on the Jews? Was it part of his attempt to reform the church? Did he attribute Rome "selling out" to some Jewish plot, or perhaps vice versa?
Do you know much about the history of the jewish people?
and your opinion on the list of locations of jews being expelled?
sure it does it has alot to do with it, the jews throughout history have gone through many expulsions and it is no surprise that anti antisemitism comes with good reason, you obviously do not wish to acknowledge historical evidence at all and choose to ignore it until you receive an answer you'd rather prefer that would better fit your agenda.
I understand, enjoy your shilling, bye.
Do you have proofs?
You can't just make a claim and not have proofs. How is the person deciding the ban to tell who is lying and who is not? Then you are leaving the decision on your so called "false" sources up to a person's political proclivities. That person having no accountability for the bans they will issue either.
Considering Luther's worldview, not very far for him
“I, Martin Luther, have during the rebellion slain all the peasants, for it was I who ordered them to be struck dead. All their blood is upon my head. But I put it all on our Lord God: for he commanded me to speak thus”
Peasants are no better than straw. They will not hear the word and they are without sense; therefore they must be compelled to hear the crack of the whip and the whiz of bullets and it is only what they deserve”
You blindly trust in the authority of a figure that you can not hold to account to make decisions regarding truth or falsehood.
Who is to say that person issuing the ban isn't a stormfag? What is your recourse in that case?
The better option is not to give them such power in the first place. You can just filter or hide what you don't like.
Depends on what your view of middle of the road is. Coming from an American perspective, seeing what the Europeans view as acceptable puts middle-of-the road in America on their right wing.
>/pol/ and /int/ weebs aren't SJW tier in their cries of persecution
Sure but middle of the road in either context certainly isn't either /pol/ or SJW.
It certainly doesn't make everyone who is a ranting Nazi or anti-Jew Christian fundamentalist an SJW as the /pol/tards seem to imagine.
I agree. I was just making a joke at the expense of those who annoy me.
Off-topic but /k/ despite being a weapons board is one of the most welcoming boards here. Tranies who dress like anime girls, furries, /k/uteboys (gays) and hardcore /pol/tards co-exist fairly well.
> It's a jew thread about jews being expelled from countries they've been in.
How many times will I be forced to tell The Truth with a capital T before Irish Internet Defence Force stop falseflagging? We know you're doing it you owl fuckers you can stop it now.
It was the eternal Hibernian the whole time. If we had listened before it was too late...
Who do you think *really* is controlling the federal reserves?? Why do you think an Irish fairy just so happen to be associated with gold and riches? History doesn't lie.
I'm putting my ass on the line posting these. These MS paint proofs aren't even mine but I'm just sharing them for the better of mankind.
The Irish is ruthless. Case in point.
You may ask "But how did the Irish numbering only 150 manage to kill 300 and seriously injure 100's more of an army many times their size made up of 3000-5000 men, trained European mercenaries and Congolese troops?"
Druidic influences. They have spies everywhere, even among their enemies. A feat such as this is easy for a green hand holding the whole world hostage.
The Irish is also to blame for communism. Engels funded Marx, and worked hard for it. If not for Engels, Marx would be forgotten. Now, why would he do that? Seems awful strange. Until it's made clear that he had not one but two Irish mistresses whispering ginger lies into his ears.
Well just so you know, you're stupid as shit.
>I'll spam this ancient /pol/ meme on /pol/, that'll show them!
Looks like someone doesn't know just how bad the Jews are.
> Implying the people browsing /pol/ now are the same as the ones who browsed it years ago
It's turned into utter shit these last years. I don't think they even remember the Canadian Cuckolding meme. Bet the Irish and Canadians are cooperating.
But that's besides the point, this thread is about the Irish (notice how Ireland is Gaelic for "Island"? Seems pretty pretentious desu. And notice how Irish starts with I, the same as Iluminati?)
> /pol/ is a relatively young board though, it was created in like 2011 or 2012
Not really, it's literary a renamed /news/ or w/e they used to call it. I think it wasn't more than a month between /pol/ and /news/ since the lack of the board meant they sperged all over 4chan.
You are the first and so far the only person here to imply an kind of trolling. Seriously, either you're baiting, or you're outright stupid, or can't understand simple English. Either way you're a sperg and need to fuck off.
Many dislike jews for they do and have wrought upon others.
lol saved but still kind of a shame about Ireland in it's current state, full of Chinese there as well
If anything he didn't go far enough.
The irony is that the protestant reformation was one of the biggest factors in helping make Jewish subversion of host societies easier. The nominalism inherent in protestant metaphysics was like a corrosive acid, and every time a credulous thinker poked it, it spread itself to a new area, like a fungus.
This suited the tribe just fine since, in any land they found themselves, they have considered themselves separate from and in opposition with the host peoples (which is naturally true in any case), and unilaterally do not integrate. Insecurities about the survival of their own identity translates into poisonous contempt for the traditions and way of life of the natives, irony and insincerity is ever their bulwark for ego defense.
Nominalism in all its myriad forms then has always served as a most expedient intellectual shoehorn for the purposes of devalidating and dissolving any cultural artifact or ideological construct that does not suit the whims of a Jew, or jewlike persons who enjoy similar tactics. Naturally such weapons are only employed in selective, tactical manners. Certainly it would be inconvenient if they were consistent and turned the acid onto their *own* conceits.
Indeed, more than any other people we could say that nominalism in fact reflects their natural state of thinking; where Jews find common cause with other peoples (or more usually, convenient patsies) amongst their hosts, it is oft those subsets of the population that are most predisposed to thinking nominalistically themselves (deontological thinking is a most common correlary as well).
Luther writing screeds about Jews then, is an example of something I like to call 'overcompensation'. In the context of ideology, overcompensation is a phenomena that happens when the kernal of an ideology provides no basis or justification for an eminently practical thing, causing cognitive dissonance in the mind of the adherent, sublimating that mania into strident and emotional insistence on that thing. Semites and europoids are obviously different people, but if some holier-than-thou social competitor smugly retorts that 'there is no Jew or gentile in Christ' (whilst furtively glancing aside for approval from the crowd), how do you retort? Either you denounce the interpretation of Christianity you were adhering too previously, or just keep loudly insisting to the contrary. I think we know what most people end up doing. 'The protestant work ethic' is another example of overcompensation. How do you go from a kernal like 'faith not works' to max weber? Just so. An almost existential dread that you're standing on quicksand (which is entirely correct) provoking a feverish response to try and shore up the glaring hole.
Now, overcompensation was much more common in the past then it is now. Advances in instrumental techne have provided much more surplus capital then ever realized heretofore, providing society much greater margins of error before nature or natures god mets out immediate punishments for their sins. So insulated from the consequences of bad decisions, people forget the reasonable fears that provoked overcompensation to begin with, and all the functional superstructures that people built up over the ideology slough off, leaving only the maladaptive core.
This is, if not perhaps *natural*, then at least a phenomena with a high degree of inevitability, as the only major competition left is competition with each other for social status. And what better way to achieve this than moral posturing by insisting you know the true simple interpretation of [popular ideology] (which often conveniently seem to be interchangeable with rationalizations for inferior kinds to be subsidized at the expense of their betters).
Jews were a conspicuous minority and a soft target, of course they were going to get ragged on where ever they went.
Though, their example provides a warning to other immigrant groups, integrate while the going is good, because once things start getting rough someone will single you out.
Did he not get the message that the jews didn't want to convert either way?
Whose antisemitism was more violent anyways, Catholicism or Protestantism? The Holocaust was bad but no one expects the Spanish Inquisition to have a big body count too.
Someone who actually read the book here. It's not a brother to Mein Kampf, that is for sure. Though even back then when casual antisemitism was the norm people still disagreed heavily. Not everything in this book is slander, but a lot is. It hurt his reputation, but just a little.
Friendly reminder that the same book also had images of literal werewolves and cynozepahles (people without a head, their face is on their chest).
But you probably believe in that shit, too, right?
>I would say the holocaust was a Protestant initiative though.
That's a really, really stupid thing to say. It was neither a catholic, nor a protestant thing to do. What the fuck makes you think that?
you're 100% fucking right. the niggas I was talking about are blemmya (at least wiki says so)
image from the book coming through
if you take this shit serious as a source then theres no hope
huh? not at all, it actually started out with "alternative news" RTnews, KenFM, Montagsproteste, Anti TTIP movement and then later on spread to the far right, even though it is almost worthless to distinguish between the two anyway. They both have roughly the same agenda and overlap.
I have my own hateboner for Antifa, but that is a different story.
is the news outlet I'm talking about. it's pretty much the russian propaganda machine in Germany.
fun fact: Even one Anonymous page (called Anonymous-Kollektiv) was taken over (it still is) by a mod who went crazy. Banned all other mod from the site and is now posting whatever refugee hate shit he can find. Pretty funny. A lot of my friends still follow it.
It's the most visited Anonymous page in Germany, even more so than the legit anonymous page. Lmao.
Every big news outlet (spiegel, süddeutsche etc.) picked up on it after months of doing nothing. Absolutely hilarious. Then shit went viral.
See, this is why it bugs me when liberals and conservatives who like to go on about FREE SPEECH misquote Voltaire about dying for what you say. Fuck that, Voltaire was an anti-semite elitist cunt, he belonged on the guillotine.
This is what I was wearing when they pogromed me. Tell me I deserved it, I dare you.
And yet funnily enough, there's no mention of that anywhere but Luther's own writings.
Meanwhile, you have things like Sanhedrin 105a saying that rightesou non-Jews have a place in heaven, dating to at the very latest the 8th century. Maimonides, writing in the 12th century, gives several reasons why Jews don't and shouldn't convert, and he was 12th century.
tl;dr, Luther pulled it out of his ass that Jews proselytize to justify his enormous analpain.