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Does anyone else feels Martin went a bit to far there?
I mean, sure, antisemitism was very common in church culture, but what he says there is just completely radical; "burn the synagogues", "expel them all" and so such, it's basically /pol/ tier. This is far cry from the medieval/late renaissance status quo that was achieved in the treatment of the Jews, wherein they get to do their money stuff as long as they stay on the margins of society.

What was the point of ML's text on the Jews? Was it part of his attempt to reform the church? Did he attribute Rome "selling out" to some Jewish plot, or perhaps vice versa?
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>>540662
Do you know much about the history of the jewish people?
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>>540683
>>540662
It was these kinds of texts that Luther encountered when he decided on confirming his collected research on comparing details and issues transitioning from the Torah to the Talmud.
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>>540687
All of these are fake. Literally each and every one. Even some of the book titles.
But thanks for the bump I guess.
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>>540687
>>540697
proof on it being fake?
and what is your opinion on
>>540683
quite damning how many times they've been pogrom ed, exiled, banished in such a short time by mostly the entire world.
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>>540730
>proof on it being fake?
the texts themselves. like i said some of the books don't even exist.
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>>540739
and your opinion on the list of locations of jews being expelled?
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>>540746
I don't know and I don't know what this has to do with the thread.

Also deliberately posting forgeries on a history board should be a bannable offense in my opinion.
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>>540750
sure it does it has alot to do with it, the jews throughout history have gone through many expulsions and it is no surprise that anti antisemitism comes with good reason, you obviously do not wish to acknowledge historical evidence at all and choose to ignore it until you receive an answer you'd rather prefer that would better fit your agenda.

I understand, enjoy your shilling, bye.
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>>540750
Wanting to ban stormfags is like them wanting to ban you for SJWism.

It's 4chan, step up your troll game nigga
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>>540770
It's not even about politics, it's about knowingly using fake sources.
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>>540775
Do you have proofs?

You can't just make a claim and not have proofs. How is the person deciding the ban to tell who is lying and who is not? Then you are leaving the decision on your so called "false" sources up to a person's political proclivities. That person having no accountability for the bans they will issue either.
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Considering Luther's worldview, not very far for him

“I, Martin Luther, have during the rebellion slain all the peasants, for it was I who ordered them to be struck dead. All their blood is upon my head. But I put it all on our Lord God: for he commanded me to speak thus”

Peasants are no better than straw. They will not hear the word and they are without sense; therefore they must be compelled to hear the crack of the whip and the whiz of bullets and it is only what they deserve”
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>>540781
What is this mumbo jumbo
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>>540781
A lot of those books are literally just made up an not even in the Talmud

see for yourself
http://www.library.upenn.edu/cajs/etexts.html
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>>540792
Thank you for providing proofs even if you are an orthodox shill.

>>540788
Showing the practical implications of your retarded idea.
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>>540799
>Showing the practical implications of your retarded idea.
What? Are you a lil' funny in the head, son?
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>>540808
You blindly trust in the authority of a figure that you can not hold to account to make decisions regarding truth or falsehood.

Who is to say that person issuing the ban isn't a stormfag? What is your recourse in that case?

The better option is not to give them such power in the first place. You can just filter or hide what you don't like.
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>>540817
Just for survey purposes, what is the literacy rate in your country?
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>>540822
86%

*bites the bait*
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>>540770

>implying stormfaggotry and SJWism aren't the same exact thing
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>>540869
>proud white male, firmly against identity politics!
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>>540869
>I don't agree with that sentiment
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>>540879
>implying you aren't a filthy orthodox shill
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>>540879
>>540883

See, they're both about feels.
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>>540869
Niche boards like /lgbt/ aside, I've never seen actual SJWdom practiced on 4chan. Modern middle-of-the-road liberal views=\=SJW.
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>>540894
Depends on what your view of middle of the road is. Coming from an American perspective, seeing what the Europeans view as acceptable puts middle-of-the road in America on their right wing.

>/pol/ and /int/ weebs aren't SJW tier in their cries of persecution
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>>540904

Sure but middle of the road in either context certainly isn't either /pol/ or SJW.

It certainly doesn't make everyone who is a ranting Nazi or anti-Jew Christian fundamentalist an SJW as the /pol/tards seem to imagine.
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>>540949
I agree. I was just making a joke at the expense of those who annoy me.

Off-topic but /k/ despite being a weapons board is one of the most welcoming boards here. Tranies who dress like anime girls, furries, /k/uteboys (gays) and hardcore /pol/tards co-exist fairly well.
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> It's a jew thread about jews being expelled from countries they've been in.
How many times will I be forced to tell The Truth with a capital T before Irish Internet Defence Force stop falseflagging? We know you're doing it you owl fuckers you can stop it now.
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>>540988
It was the eternal Hibernian the whole time. If we had listened before it was too late...
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>>540988
>88
>>541012

kek
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>>540730
Fuck off. Most Khazars never converted but the khan did invite Jews from all over the world for the shekels.
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>>540988
lmfao
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Who do you think *really* is controlling the federal reserves?? Why do you think an Irish fairy just so happen to be associated with gold and riches? History doesn't lie.
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>>540988
>>541012
>>541037
>>541042
holy shit anon this is pure 10/10 genius
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>>541045
second'd

This needs to be spammed on /pol/ 24/7
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>>540988
>>541037
>>541042
>>541012
You absolute madman! I am so saving these for /pol/ spamming reasons
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>>541047
>>541045
>>541053
You realize it's a meme that originated on /pol/ to start with and it happened years ago
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>>541037
>Why do you think an Irish fairy just so happen to be associated with gold and riches? History doesn't lie.
my sidesss
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>>541058
no, i don't monitor the entirety of 4chan 24/7, let alone its shittiest board
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>>541045
I'm putting my ass on the line posting these. These MS paint proofs aren't even mine but I'm just sharing them for the better of mankind.

The Irish is ruthless. Case in point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jadotville
You may ask "But how did the Irish numbering only 150 manage to kill 300 and seriously injure 100's more of an army many times their size made up of 3000-5000 men, trained European mercenaries and Congolese troops?"

Druidic influences. They have spies everywhere, even among their enemies. A feat such as this is easy for a green hand holding the whole world hostage.

The Irish is also to blame for communism. Engels funded Marx, and worked hard for it. If not for Engels, Marx would be forgotten. Now, why would he do that? Seems awful strange. Until it's made clear that he had not one but two Irish mistresses whispering ginger lies into his ears.
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>>541058
I don't, but neither do most contemporary /pol/ posters I reckon.
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>>540769
>>540687
>ur a shill hurrrrr
Stop being a faggot, the image you posted was wrong get over it.
Fags like you make /pol/ look bad
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>>541061
Well just so you know, you're stupid as shit.

>I'll spam this ancient /pol/ meme on /pol/, that'll show them!
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Looks like someone doesn't know just how bad the Jews are.
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>>541064
There needs to be an entire section about JFK imo
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>>541069
>Well just so you know, you're stupid as shit.
no u
>>I'll spam this ancient /pol/ meme on /pol/, that'll show them!
i never said that
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>>541075
>This needs to be spammed on /pol/ 24/7
>I am so saving these for /pol/ spamming reasons

Whoever said these is an extreaordinary case of retard.
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>>541069
> Implying the people browsing /pol/ now are the same as the ones who browsed it years ago

It's turned into utter shit these last years. I don't think they even remember the Canadian Cuckolding meme. Bet the Irish and Canadians are cooperating.

But that's besides the point, this thread is about the Irish (notice how Ireland is Gaelic for "Island"? Seems pretty pretentious desu. And notice how Irish starts with I, the same as Iluminati?)
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>>541078
>implying this was implied
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>>541058
Well maybe they need to be reminded
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>>541078
> I'm a special kind of idiot with no life to speak of and I spend all my time on /pol/ monitoring all its wonderful memes
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>>541085
It wasn't just implied, it was stated outright.

>>541082
>years ago
/pol/ is a relatively young board though, it was created in like 2011 or 2012
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>>541095
>trying to troll people with content they themselves ironically invented
>having the audacity to call anyone an idiot
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>>541102
>le trolling
>le board wars
You're quite a sperg aren't you?
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>>541110
You suggested trolling them, not me.
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>>541101
> /pol/ is a relatively young board though, it was created in like 2011 or 2012
Not really, it's literary a renamed /news/ or w/e they used to call it. I think it wasn't more than a month between /pol/ and /news/ since the lack of the board meant they sperged all over 4chan.
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>>541115
You are the first and so far the only person here to imply an kind of trolling. Seriously, either you're baiting, or you're outright stupid, or can't understand simple English. Either way you're a sperg and need to fuck off.
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>>541071
nothing changes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein
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>>540662
Many dislike jews for they do and have wrought upon others.
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>>540988
>>541012
>>541037
>>541042
>>541064
lol saved but still kind of a shame about Ireland in it's current state, full of Chinese there as well

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/Professor-believes-the-Irish-will-be-an-ethnic-minority-in-Ireland-by-2050.html

http://www.thejournal.ie/ethnicity-ireland-census-2011-640737-Oct2012/
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>>540988
>>541012
>>541037
>>541042
>>541064
>the eternal celt
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>>541192
>lol saved but still kind of a shame about Ireland in it's current state, full of Chinese there as well
Ireland is literally in it's best state ever.
t. Irishman

>>>/pol/
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>>541245
>>541192
yeah that place is full of Pakis and Arabs, not too fond of Irish i do hope the Arabs outbreed them in the end. I'm Nigerian and those Ginger whore bitches love our chocolate cocks in them.
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>>541067
Actually, /pol/ makes /pol/ look bad.
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If anything he didn't go far enough.

The irony is that the protestant reformation was one of the biggest factors in helping make Jewish subversion of host societies easier. The nominalism inherent in protestant metaphysics was like a corrosive acid, and every time a credulous thinker poked it, it spread itself to a new area, like a fungus.

This suited the tribe just fine since, in any land they found themselves, they have considered themselves separate from and in opposition with the host peoples (which is naturally true in any case), and unilaterally do not integrate. Insecurities about the survival of their own identity translates into poisonous contempt for the traditions and way of life of the natives, irony and insincerity is ever their bulwark for ego defense.

Nominalism in all its myriad forms then has always served as a most expedient intellectual shoehorn for the purposes of devalidating and dissolving any cultural artifact or ideological construct that does not suit the whims of a Jew, or jewlike persons who enjoy similar tactics. Naturally such weapons are only employed in selective, tactical manners. Certainly it would be inconvenient if they were consistent and turned the acid onto their *own* conceits.

Indeed, more than any other people we could say that nominalism in fact reflects their natural state of thinking; where Jews find common cause with other peoples (or more usually, convenient patsies) amongst their hosts, it is oft those subsets of the population that are most predisposed to thinking nominalistically themselves (deontological thinking is a most common correlary as well).
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>>541332


Luther writing screeds about Jews then, is an example of something I like to call 'overcompensation'. In the context of ideology, overcompensation is a phenomena that happens when the kernal of an ideology provides no basis or justification for an eminently practical thing, causing cognitive dissonance in the mind of the adherent, sublimating that mania into strident and emotional insistence on that thing. Semites and europoids are obviously different people, but if some holier-than-thou social competitor smugly retorts that 'there is no Jew or gentile in Christ' (whilst furtively glancing aside for approval from the crowd), how do you retort? Either you denounce the interpretation of Christianity you were adhering too previously, or just keep loudly insisting to the contrary. I think we know what most people end up doing. 'The protestant work ethic' is another example of overcompensation. How do you go from a kernal like 'faith not works' to max weber? Just so. An almost existential dread that you're standing on quicksand (which is entirely correct) provoking a feverish response to try and shore up the glaring hole.
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>>541340


Now, overcompensation was much more common in the past then it is now. Advances in instrumental techne have provided much more surplus capital then ever realized heretofore, providing society much greater margins of error before nature or natures god mets out immediate punishments for their sins. So insulated from the consequences of bad decisions, people forget the reasonable fears that provoked overcompensation to begin with, and all the functional superstructures that people built up over the ideology slough off, leaving only the maladaptive core.

This is, if not perhaps *natural*, then at least a phenomena with a high degree of inevitability, as the only major competition left is competition with each other for social status. And what better way to achieve this than moral posturing by insisting you know the true simple interpretation of [popular ideology] (which often conveniently seem to be interchangeable with rationalizations for inferior kinds to be subsidized at the expense of their betters).
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>>541192
>current state
>>>/pol/
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> Jew thread on /his/
> 70 posts, 16 posters

t-thanks hiro, w-what a g-great board
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>>540750
>bannable offense
The goyim know, shut it down!
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>>540750
nice job convincing us of those forgeries btw
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>>541184
I love it when people post works of enlightenment age philosophers condemning Jews, because none of those guys ever met a Jew or speak Hebrew, and are just talking out of their ass.
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>>541363
Fuck off Hibernian, don't pretend we don't know what you're doing.
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>>541433


I don't have to move to detoilet and wait for a basketball-american to stab me to know they make bad neighbors, I know it ahead of time, which is why I don't live in detoilet.
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>>541115
>lol ebin pichure let's spam that other board with it xDDDD
>not implying trolling
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>>541308

Yo my brotha dis true?

Might as well board a plane from London first thing.
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>>540683
Jews were a conspicuous minority and a soft target, of course they were going to get ragged on where ever they went.

Though, their example provides a warning to other immigrant groups, integrate while the going is good, because once things start getting rough someone will single you out.
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>>540683
>Germany
>a place before 1871
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>>541308
t Shlomo Cohen
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>>541037
>>541042

Don't forget, Obama is 50% irish.
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Bump for Israel
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>>541308
>>541917
>>544714
This is all clever plan by the eternal Hibernian to weaponize niggers. Hordes Chinese to human wave us with Nigerian shock troops. Truly the eternal Hibernian knows no boundaries or restraint in his quest for global dominace.
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>>541698
found the retard
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>>541198
do ho ho
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>>540683
I mean the Arabs were pretty nice to Jews for most of their history and i'm pretty sure they are regretting that hard now
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>>541053
>>541047

that's an old /pol/ meme you fucking retards
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>>541082
>the Canadian Cuckolding meme

dude, that was like 2014.
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>>541061

>lol this meme is awesome let's spam /pol/ with it
>what do you mean they made it?
>lol what a shitty board let's just talk about them forever
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>>540662
He argued that the jews would be christians if the Catholics stopped fucking with them after converting

he did and the jews still didn't convert needless to say, he was disappoint
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>>547568
Did he not get the message that the jews didn't want to convert either way?

Whose antisemitism was more violent anyways, Catholicism or Protestantism? The Holocaust was bad but no one expects the Spanish Inquisition to have a big body count too.
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>>547636
The Inquisition was directed at Christians for the most part.
I would say the holocaust was a Protestant initiative though.
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>>540662

Someone who actually read the book here. It's not a brother to Mein Kampf, that is for sure. Though even back then when casual antisemitism was the norm people still disagreed heavily. Not everything in this book is slander, but a lot is. It hurt his reputation, but just a little.
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>>540683

UNDERSTANDING THE ZIONIST WORLD CONSPIRACY

and /pol/tards wonder why they're met with either repulsion or laughter..
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>>540730
>>540746

>Jews banished and porgromd, killed in masses, held accountable for many crimes they did not commit, dieseases they did not spreadf
>ITS A JUICE CUNSPIRUCY!!!

just how retarded are you?
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>>540781

>Do you have proofs?

Yes you fucking spastic. Did a quick check, half of those quotes aren't even in the Thalmud.

kill yourself
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>>540894
>>540894
>>540894
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>>540904

Americans also think public healthcare is exclusively to socialist countries

Yanks are pretty fucking braindamaged in general.
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>>540988

fuckin hilarious. whoever did this i'm proud of you.
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>>540988

>helmut schmidt
>irish background

cant fucking stop laughing
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>>540988

>88

best post on his rn
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>>540662
>theres a pattern for hundreds.of years
>lets ignore it because its racist
Der ewige jude
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>>541071

Friendly reminder that the same book also had images of literal werewolves and cynozepahles (people without a head, their face is on their chest).

But you probably believe in that shit, too, right?
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>>541308

nice false flag you cockmuncher

>I'm Nigerian and those Ginger whore bitches love our chocolate cocks in them.

spoken like a TRUE NIGERIAN
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>>544752

he is right though. or are you saying Das heilige römische Reich deutscher Nation® is the same as Germany, the nation?

t. German
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>>547777
cynocephale actually means werewolf or dog-head (cyno=dog)
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>>547693

>I would say the holocaust was a Protestant initiative though.

That's a really, really stupid thing to say. It was neither a catholic, nor a protestant thing to do. What the fuck makes you think that?
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>>547794
Besser als BRD GmbH
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>>547805
Fuck
I meant
>I wouldn't say the holocaust was a Protestant initiative though.
Sorry I amddrunk at the moment
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>>547802

you're 100% fucking right. the niggas I was talking about are blemmya (at least wiki says so)

image from the book coming through

if you take this shit serious as a source then theres no hope
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>>547808

>Pegida on 4chan

welp, time to leave /his/ forever

I hope you choke on nigger dick you LITERAL subhuman

>>547811

no prob m8
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>>547813
check'em
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>>547820
Isn't the GmbH a leftist/AntiFa meme?
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>>547831

lmao

>>547835

huh? not at all, it actually started out with "alternative news" RTnews, KenFM, Montagsproteste, Anti TTIP movement and then later on spread to the far right, even though it is almost worthless to distinguish between the two anyway. They both have roughly the same agenda and overlap.

I have my own hateboner for Antifa, but that is a different story.
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>>547835

https://www.rt.com/news/

is the news outlet I'm talking about. it's pretty much the russian propaganda machine in Germany.

fun fact: Even one Anonymous page (called Anonymous-Kollektiv) was taken over (it still is) by a mod who went crazy. Banned all other mod from the site and is now posting whatever refugee hate shit he can find. Pretty funny. A lot of my friends still follow it.

It's the most visited Anonymous page in Germany, even more so than the legit anonymous page. Lmao.

Every big news outlet (spiegel, süddeutsche etc.) picked up on it after months of doing nothing. Absolutely hilarious. Then shit went viral.
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>>547777
Quads prove werewolves are real
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>>541184
See, this is why it bugs me when liberals and conservatives who like to go on about FREE SPEECH misquote Voltaire about dying for what you say. Fuck that, Voltaire was an anti-semite elitist cunt, he belonged on the guillotine.
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>>540683
Literally victim-blaming.
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>>540988
>>541012
>>541037
>>541042
>>541064
>tfw of both Irish and Jewish descent

Wherever I am, I must acquire gold. Thanks for waking me up to my destiny, /his/.
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>>547636

The Inquisition was why Luther said that. Basically jews that did convert to Christianity were fucked with so Luther pretty much said that was counter-productive.
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>>540662
Buttmad that his old testament centered form of christianity didn't convert the Jews en masse.
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>>548218
This is what I was wearing when they pogromed me. Tell me I deserved it, I dare you.
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>>540662
He tried recruiting them into Protestantism but failed. Sour grapes.
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>>550125
Other way around. He statet that jews were trying to convert him (back than that was still a thing in judaism)
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>>550187

And yet funnily enough, there's no mention of that anywhere but Luther's own writings.


Meanwhile, you have things like Sanhedrin 105a saying that rightesou non-Jews have a place in heaven, dating to at the very latest the 8th century. Maimonides, writing in the 12th century, gives several reasons why Jews don't and shouldn't convert, and he was 12th century.


tl;dr, Luther pulled it out of his ass that Jews proselytize to justify his enormous analpain.
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>>551112
Luther? Bullshitting to save face? Nah nigga that's impossible!
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The Jews have been discriminated against and persecuted literally their entire history.
>If you meet an asshole, you've met an asshole. If everyone you meet is an asshole, YOU'RE the asshole
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