>>516545 >Is it true that without conflict, there is no progress?
Yes, most technologies developed in times of war. Most social solutions developed after the war. It is also the reason why communism is a failed concept because it tries to disable conflict and thus injects letargy into its population (the fuck should I work if I'll never achieve anything better) and that is why capitalism has proven to achieve more progress (the fuck this nigga thinks he's better, I'll show him).
People become entitled with lack of conflict and competition, thats why you have tumblr and the likes, its all people that grew up being sheltered from any kind of conflict by their parents and teachers and now cant do anything right and always think they deserve everything without putting any effort, if they don't succeed its never because of their own shortcomings, its always someone else fault.
>>518628 >>518661 And constant conflict lead to Africa. The answer is to stop conflicts and let people vent their frustrations with sports and other competitions. Having decent families would help as well but good luck with that.
>>518628 >>518844 The key to progress is a constant oscillation between conflict and peace. In conflict we'll develop new technologies, in peace those technologies will be applied which leads to a rise in discovery and scientific advancement which then gives rise to new technologies in the next conflict. Have to much of one without the presence of the other and stagnation will inevitably occur.
in every second of every day. with every breath you take there is conflict. every living thing on the earth is permanently engaged in conflict with every other living thing. there are no laws and the only thing that matters is who survives.
>>519942 I would agree with you in a pre-Industrial Revolution Century society that conflict was necessary to drive technological advancement. However, mechanisation of agriculture/industry/etc. has, in peace time, fostered the development of the sciences/engineering as fields in their own right and thus, having professionals dedicate their careers to these has, in the last century alone, allowed for technological progress unheard of in the 21 gone centuries before it.
Social progress is a bit more difficult, I think, as it depends upon the whims of people. There's no real metric to measure against, except perhaps mortality rates but, that's dubious at best.
>>520732 In Rome II (Emperor edition), you can actually get feasible trading empires going if you bribe a lot. The Iceni faction actually start out with a trade bonus to non-Celts, and you can get pretty early game 10,000+ talent income as soon as you align yourself as trading with Carthage.
I actually managed to amass gigantic globs of military allies in Rome II a few times, so people are freaking horrified of declaring war on you and starting World War Negative One
In Attila, the whole mechanic is fucked. I'm playing my first campaign (as Himyar), and I can't do any Mediterranean trading because I can't establish sea routes for some reason. The only people I trade with are the Sassanids, their puppet state fuccbois and African Separatists. No one wants to be my ally other than weak ass states like Palmyra and the Africans. It's starting to piss me off.
>>520754 >I actually managed to amass gigantic globs of military allies in Rome II a few times, so people are freaking horrified of declaring war on you and starting World War Negative One I usually do that with the local factions and then realizes that I have no nearby enemy lands to conquer in order to expand
>>516887 Yep. Everyone knows the spinning wheel was invented when a war chariot crashed into a bunch of spinsters. And Persian air conditioning and irrigation was wholly belligerent in nature, which is why after the Pax Mongolica they allowed the qanats to fall into disrepair.
>>522837 Yeah, you have to plan ahead and have an idea who you can make alliances with and where you can expand. For example, during my Iceni campaign (hard/hard) I declared war on the Dumonii so that I could be friends with the Namnetes and get diplomatic bonuses from conquering their neighbors. Then I formed a friendly working relationship with the Boii (not an alliance), and basically conquered due South. When Rome declared war on Carthage for the second time, Carthage asked me to help, which allowed me to take the Italian Peninsula and half of Sicily while it was undefended, and have a position to expand simultaneously in Northern Africa and the Iberian Peninsula. Later on in the game, my more valuable allies, the Spartans, went to war with the Boii, and I took all their land, which at that point was all of Northeastern Europe.
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