can we discuss the state of /h/? I've noticed that this

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>>4147494
There's nothing wrong with loli, that shit should be allowed here already ffss.
Western I agree needs to stay away for the most part, but there are some artists who are really goddamn good at doing anime characters, which should be fine. And I've seen some people complain about pictures being /d/ when they're really not, grow some sense. As long it's not fucking literal scat, diapers, deformations, etc. /d/ shit is about, then goddamn it.
Request threads true, linger around oddly long sometimes. I guess /h/ isn't just that moderated frequently. It's been like this however for a long time.
Great doujin by the way, one of my favorites.

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>>4147552
It's less about my personal tastes (I'm a fan of some /d/ content and western stuff), it's just the fact that those things are against the rules and I think the rules should be followed and enforced. It's not like these rules are hard to find either, they're right there in the sticky.

There's already boards dedicated to these anyways, so I don't see why it should be posted here.

It's also worth noting that loli is illegal in many countries and states (and this law is enforced in some areas, like the southern US or Australia), so I can see why it should be banned from this board. /h/ should be a place you can browse without being paranoid that you're breaking the law

Request threads are fine so long as the op dumps pictures, much in the way this off topic thread is fine because you dumped pictures. /r/ isn't always hentai oriented and it moves fast.

>>4147570
The only places where Loli is really illegal are Canada and GB. That's about it. In every other country it's either allowed (e.g. the majority of Europe) or a grey area (US).

>>4147576
>Request threads are fine
No

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>>4147587
that's untrue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

>>4147588
I agree with this anon on request threads. Posting images does not make a request thread okay. It's not like I could open a thread and dump images I'd like sourced. Topical threads are fine though (ex: "Paizuri Thread!"), as long as the OP starts off with 6 or so relevant images. If OP just starts a topical thread with one image only, it counts as a request thread.

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>>4147570
Going to /h/ for loli is absolutely retarded as it's filled with all sorts of disgusting crap all around it.
Also it shouldn't matter, what matters is where it's hosted at. Loli is allowed in most of Europe, only US fags are paranoid about this a lot. You're already browsing a site full of all sorts of shit even if you don't browse the boards known for it. And well Australia is a literal shithole, what with the banning of A-cup breasts for fuck sakes.
This anon here said it out pretty well >>4145853.

>>4147597
>Going to /h/ for loli is absolutely retarded as it's filled with all sorts of disgusting crap all around it.

The majority of Loli is more or less Vanilla. There's artists like Fatalpulse or Shiruka Bakaudon, but those aren't the norm.

>>4147602
I meant /b/ is the disgusting crap all around it. I don't want to browse /b/ for loli for that reason.

>>4147605
Oh, alright. So you meant going to /b/ for Loli, gotcha.

>>4147494
they banned all of the old hentai dumpers, they are getting MORE and MORE strict on what content can be posted here

i got banned once for trying to post a series of hentai in which the first two pages didnt have any males/dicks in it, in the ban it said "thats ecchi"

gee sorry if the hentai isnt 100% penetration 100% of the time

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>>4147494
I just tend to ignore "threads" like those. Don't reply to or bump them, they'll die on their own. If you feel /h/ has become shitty, create new threads to refresh it even by a little.

>>4147494
idk /h/ has been better than it has been, and i stopped coming here years ago because boorus and pixiv exist. having tight rules and user moderation ended up restricting the board too much back then, but it is strange seeing loli here and no one caring though.

I miss the days when 4chan was like the Wild West.

Face it, over the years this entire site has become stale and boring, and many older posters left because they either moved on in interests as they aged, or god disgusted with the tightening of rules, captchas, posting timers, etc.

>>4147595
Actually, posting images does make a request thread ok. Rule #5.

I've been coming to /h/ for something like 6 years, now. I guess I've noticed moderators being less observant/punctual lately, but nothing has really changed... Don't click on threads you don't want to see, click on the ones you do want to see. /shrug

I suppose there exists a critical threshold where what you don't want to see greatly exceeds what you do want to see, at which point the board isn't worth visiting, but I don't think off topic material is more prevalent now than in the past.

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>>4148060
rule #5 says you may make a request after posting a decent amount of content, not before. A request thread is a thread in which the request comes before any other posts, because the thread type is determined by the first post.

there's a difference between making a request in a thread and making a request thread

/h/ was at it's best when requests were filled and sources were given. People shared, suggested and were happy to give their fellow anon fap material.

now its all this hateful fucks who dont want you or them to fap and post crap.

any sort of hentai or porn dicussion is usually better on a main board like /a/ or /v/

>>4148446
>there's a difference between making a request in a thread and making a request thread

Not really. If you're going to delete 'request thread that provides content' then you also have to delete '[character] thread', and GIF/WEBM threads, and basically any thread that isn't "fap to the one below".

The only difference between topical threads and request threads is wording. Request threads are fine- to say otherwise would be encouraging arbitrary-as-fuck enforcement of the rules.

>>4148734
I have to agree there- if anything has gotten worse about /h/, it's the userbase. Not everyone knows about saucenao, knowing how to log into sadpanda isn't some sacred neckbeard rite. Contribute or don't.

>>4147570
Nice try. But you're not fooling me, moralfag

>>4147494
Let cuucks spam their cuuck shit and that's what we get.

>>4148446

Making a request while dumping a doujin or two is common place and acceptable.

>>4147595
This picture is a /jp/ meme. If you actually read the Wikipedia article on cases in the United States, you'll see that whenever someone does end up in jail for loli, it's either because they also had real CP, or because the defendant plead guilty from the start. The chances of you even being taken to court in the first place are extremely low considering that there have apparently only been five recorded cases involving loli in the past decade.

>>4147552
>There's nothing wrong with loli, that shit should be allowed here already ffss.
This. What's the problem with loli? If it should be banned because it's "illegal" in some states then it should be banned on /b/ too. But it isn't and nobody gives a shit.

>>4153649
Nobody gives a shit? Try posting it here then and see what happens.

>>4153651
Nobody cares on /b/
Why would anyone care on /h/?

>>4153653
Then make a loli thread. Post loli pictures right now and see what happens.

>>4153653
because it's specifically against the rules and sticky anywhere BUT /b/, and you will get banned if anyone reports it

>>4153655
I would if it wasn't against the rules.
>>4153656
That doesn't explain why anyone would care though aside from being against the rules

The rules also tell you to provide sauce for stuff you post which nobody does and half the people refuse to do because of board culture from unrelated boards.

The users don't seem to give a shit. The mods don't seem to give a shit. Deal with it.

But Mugi only likes black men.

>>4147552
Back when there was a loli board people would post 3dpd and shit.

>>4153695
There was never a loli board, at least on 4chan.

>>4147494
Idk if this would be the right thread but I'm looking for a series. I'll give all the details I know.
>Watched about 5 maybe 6 years go
>Involved a loli-ish witch that captures a guy and he becomes a fucking manic, eventually growing tentacles and whatnot out of his body.
>Super fast fucking like insane speed.
>Throughout the series he gets 3 girls to be crazy about him all for the little witch I think.
>Then last episode he overpowers the witch and fucks all 4 at the same time with tentacles.
>I think he runs the tentacles all the way through the witches boy out her mouth in the end too.
>Main point is its like extreme speed fucking.

Been looking for this on the side for the past year and can't seem to find it. I wish I could remember the site. Thank you anons I wish I had more.

>>4155108
Oh and if there's a thread for this I'll copy and paste my question. Trying to be humble.

>>4155102

>what is (was ;_;7) /l/ for $500

> /d/

The problem with /d/ specifically is that if there was only a slightly off fetish, say sweating or chastity or electrostim or what have you, one would generally want to risk to make the tread in /h/ rather than /d/, as in /d/ things risk getting the "shitting dick nipples" or at the very least futa-treatment, that is all the ills of the world combined.

Also, /h/ is busier.

For example in fchan theres alternative /a/ and alternative (hard) /ah/.

>>4155108
Tentacle and Witches?

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Oh man, what a topic.
I'll start by saying two things: first, everyone's answer to dissatisfaction with the board's content should be posting better content -which I'm personally trying to do these last weeks (I'm the guy who's doing all the storytime threads): so thanks for doing that, even if >sexualizing the Keions
Secondly, numbers help more than hot opinions. Unfortunately, moe is dead so we can't track down /h/'s activity for more than a year, but from this http://fgts.jp/h/statistics/ (considering that full data aren't properly archived there until like last April) we can get a good idea of what the board looks like.

/h/'s main problem is not moderation: its problem has always been how much it can rise from the inevitably shitty status of being a red board with a broad-sounding topic.
Take a look at this http://fgts.jp/h/gallery/ and you'll notice how the ABSOLUTE MAJORITY of the threads being created get deleted for being either rulebreaking (/r/ or /co/ or /d/ or /e), spam or shitposts. We, like /s/, /gif/ and /hc/ get constantly spammed by horny kids who don't know shit except LOL BENIS IN BAGINA, but unlike those 3dpd shit, we share a userbase with the better core of anime and manga lovers who set the bar for "belonging" here much higher, simply stemming from the fact that you can't bother to explain 100 times a day the bases of doujinshi publishing, how to get past the panda, what Comiket is etc

Late 2013 onwards saw the moderation try to better separate /a/, /e/ and /h/. As a result, this board became faster and started seeing more specialized threads (also due to the increased imagelimit), but also changed its face a lot while retaining strict moderation -not really stricter than before, but still. But the battle to save the board has always been to push back against the flood of inane threads, variate content and especially educate that little part of newfigs who actually show some will to learn, even if they still post emoticons and ask for sauce.

Use the report button. Mods can't see every post at once OP. you gotta kinda help and point them to shit you notice. Also sometimes mods wont do anything because no one complains.

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>>4147494
What would be the definition of loli?

>>4158103
>also due to the increased imagelimit
How big was the image limit earlier, anyway?

>>4158164
I would say characters who are preteens, but sadpanda generally tags almost every Pettanko as a Loli, which is retarded.

>>4147494
I actually agree with you. The board probably could use a little more administration. Although I do see rule enforcing. I think more could always be done. It is a slippery slope on some issues and thus I could so stricter and lax rules both being a matter of opinion. But I suppose It would still be a good thing in the general census of the rules to have more administration to enforce a more literal version of them and more consistently.

>>4147494
>New mods for /h/.

I'd rather the old mods instead. Fuck off with your /q/ tier meta shitpost. This board has issues but what it doesn't need is some reddit tier faggot mod fucking up this board like the other ones.

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I've brooded over an idea directly related to this for a while.

Remove the links to the Adult section on the home page. No evidence it was there. The alphabet links at the top of the boards would stay the exact same.

No matter the reason some idiot finds his way to 4chan, its highly likely they'll spot the huge ass adult section and check it out. The porn boards are pretty average in terms of visitors, but that's what I feel people don't look closer at. The uninitiated shit all over places like /h/, /gif/, and /s/, until they realize what other porn there is. Once you've got your panda and boorus, there really is very little reason to use these boards regularly. I come to /h/ for the audio threads. I discuss my porn with /a/ like a civilized person. I'd be willing to bet most people lurking these threads haven't been around any longer than two years. But if they never saw that huge ass selection of porn, filled to the brim with stuff they never knew existed, I bet they wouldn't be here. Their immediate interest with the site would've been gone in a week, and we'd have better posts because of it.

It'd be an easy change with with a low impact on regular users. It's not something that requires constant man power like mods/janitors. The effects would obviously be rather slow, but 4chan probably isn't going away anytime soon. It could also bring up the quality of other regular boards because of the reduction in new users.

TLDR we're retaining newfags because the porn is too easy to find. Reduce retention and quality will slowly rise as users educate themselves.

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Like look at this shit.

>>4158182
>>4156095
>>4156096
>>4136919

Namefags just shitting up the place.

>>4158239
>>4158240

How bad off do you mentally have to be to name yourself "someone" on an anonymous image board?

You only see this on porn boards and /b/.

>>4158257
>I discuss my porn with /a/ like a civilized person.
Only thing is that it shouldn't be used for that, actually.

>>4158275
There are several namefags and tripfags on every board.

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>>4158313
>Only thing is that it shouldn't be used for that, actually.
Note how it's stated "with /a/" and not "on /a/". No one would have an issue discussing things on /h/ if it wasn't so infested.
Its the userbase that makes the discussions and threads better.


>There are several namefags and tripfags on every board.
And not only is that an issue in itself, these namefags are almost adorably new
Do you enjoy seeing posts like those everywhere?

>>4158348
>No one would have an issue discussing things on /h/ if it wasn't so infested.
You can try to at least, like here: >>4152025

It's just that many people resort to namecalling instead of arguments when they obviously know they lost. The only argument against me and another guy they used there was "you have autism", essentially. NTR fags are like that everywhere, though. Just like they immediately nuke any comment on sadpanda that doesn't praise their fetish.

>>4147494
/h/ sucks because of the weird rules

>>4148780
>Not everyone knows about saucenao, knowing how to log into sadpanda isn't some sacred neckbeard rite
>not knowing how to do the most basic of things
People who don't know how to do those things shouldn't be posting. There is a old saying for this

Lurk moar

>>4158586
Go start your own private board.

If answering the question "how do I" is always met with "lurk moar", then the question will never be answered and no amount of lurking will answer the question. "Lurk moar" only works because someone eventually does answer the question. All you accomplish by saying "lurk moar" is conveying that you are "an obnoxious faggot who will not answer the question, but a decent person will come along eventually".

Lurk moar only works on /a/ where it is (or was when I frequented years ago) used to shun people who don't speak the language. You may only post when your text reads like that of a regular poster. That sentiment doesn't apply to /h/.

>>4159018
Image search is built-in to 4chan and even on the FAQ (which people are requested to read before posting).

Therefore anyone who doesn't image search and instead demands sauce deserves to be met with unlimited ridicule.

>>4159018
Fuck up, you stupid newfag. Lurk moar does apply, because it doesn't just mean only post when you have knowledge of the site, it also means don't ask stupid shit. Everyone else had to figure out how to use those tools themselves, so why can't you? You aren't entitled to the answer and website culture says you can fuck off. 4chan isn't some inclusive club. The lurk moar culture isn't /a/ culture, its /4chan culture/.

Reverse image searching is the most basic of shit and you can easily learn to how to do it by going 'find source of image'. Wow! So fucking hard! Because you spoonfed that idiot, he won't ever try to learn how to do things himself and others who were lurking will start posting asking stupid questions as well. 'How to get past the sad panda'. WOW! SO! FUCKING! HARD!

It's not being a cunt or some secret club, it's called, don't fucking enable stupidity. If you want to be some nice citizen who spoonfeeds people, use some other site

>>4159556
tldr
U mad
etc

>>4159595

yes, but he's not wrong.

>>4159603
I think if you actually tried finding the source but still can't find it no matter how hard you tried then its okay to ask.

>>4147595
So my thread I made earlier is cool because I opened with 8 pics?

Also thank god my state is blue

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>>4153658
It can be tough to characterize loli sometimes, I get that, but generally if you have to question it, it shouldn't be posted. I see nothing wrong with people being opposed to loli. You wouldn't post some dude fucking a horse here, would you? Why would you post loli. I'm also fairly certain that there *are* laws against explicit types of loli in the US, or at least one person has been arrested for it, meaning there's at least a case-law for it.

>>4148780
RIS is literally built into 4chan, and if somebody hasn't figured that out, they haven't been around long enough to notice post. The reason people ridicule and shout 'lurk moar' is to discourage lack of intuitive action.

>>pic
I know bosshi's basically a meme at this point, but holy shit this new one is genuinely one of my all time favourites now

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>>4159743
Managed to skip cover somehow. pretty damn good looking cover, too

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>>4159750
was cover
>>4159743
is page one

now continuing in normal progression. Sorry about that.

>>4159743
Haven't all of the cases where the person got prosecuted so far been because they ended up having actual CP?

>>4155108
dark love

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>>4159753
Nope, there's a specific case where a guy had imported multiple volumes of a series, they were stopped at customs, and he was raided. They searched everything and only found loli, but the judge concluded that it was enough to charge him. I don't have LexisNexis available to me right from my home comp, but I can try to find the case at least.

IIRC, part of it had to do with some law involving importing questionable porn from Japan, but it's still being used as precedent, just not frequently. You can definitely be sent away for it, though.

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>>4159756

>>4159743
That's been translated years ago actually.

>>4159756
The Christopher Handley case right?
I did a little reading into it and they ruled the loli part of the law unconstitutional. But he still got slapped with obscenity charges because of a guilty plea bargain.
At least, if I'm reading this correctly.

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>>4159773
I'll have to do the reading up a bit later on, but that name sounds right. My boss has this neat tool that lets you search through case-laws, and find other cases that have cited said case-laws, and that particular case has been used to win multiple trials. I don't think it's like a daily or even monthly thing, but there's a pretty decent sized tree that stems from it for something that most people believe is 100% legal

>>4159764
Ahh, go figure. I mainly stick to a .cafe site ever since pururin went down, they seem to always have top-notch comics, but they don't have a huge selection. maybe one new comic per day at best. I'll stop this one at page ~9 where it ends. Gotta grab some sleep anyway

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>>4159780

>>4159780
It'd be cool if you could shed some more light on that.

>>4159780
The coffeshop just rips the Fakku releases in inferior quality. Most of their books were translated years ago. They just publish them uncensored with a new translation.

Tsumino is the successor of Pururin and rips everything from Fakku in full quality.

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>>4147570
>I think the rules should be followed and enforced
Why? Simply because they're the rules? If the rules don't make sense, they serve no purpose other than to be enforced. Subservient notions like yours sicken me -- try to apply that cavernous void behind your eye sockets to something once in a while.

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>>4159783
Argh, I've gotta retype this again.
I can do that, but you'll have to wait until I can use my work computer (tomorrow). I don't like giving information unless I'm certain of the facts, and I'd hate to state that it's still being used as precedent if it's been struck down since. I can grab all sorts of info from work (case numbers, locations, dates, etc). You can definitely see how a site would avoid wanting it posted, though. Anyway, if you want me to grab that info, I'd be happy to tomorrow.

>>4159785
Ah, I didn't know tsumino was working. I may be thinking of a different site, but some people in the pururin forums had a replacement site in development for over a year that didn't seem to go anywhere. I can't remember if tsumino is the name, but it sounds close enough. I'll give them a look!

Anyway, I'll make a post about it tomorrow and mention something about "case-law" or "Handley" in the subject, or at least body so it can be searched. It's been fun!

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>>4159794
Oy, since you seem to like uncensored doujin, do you know of a good way to batch-convert image files? I've a doujin in .png format, but they're all too large to post here, and it's like 200 pages long....

>>4159799
You should be able to do this with GIMP or Photoshop. Open them all up as layers, then export the layers individually in whatever format/quality you think will make them small enough.

>>4159743
>>4159750
>>4159752
>>4159756
>>4159759
>>4159780
>>4159782
>>4159786
>>4159794

>Posting Fakku's published version of the story.

It's like you want to get assfucked by a ban for posting DMCA'd content.

>>4160031
>implying we give a fuck
Kill youself faggot

>>4147494
I think it's getting better and better. The fact that loli is banned on a HENTAI board is beyond retarded, it's like those "official distributors" of hentai in the West that try to censor and left out loli\weird shit out of the hentai. It is absolutely pointless, and if it offends you in ANY way you do not deserve nor do you appreciate the modern miracle of the Universe that is Japanese hentai art.

I never really understood why western stuff was banned from /h/ and /d/ anyway, that always seemed beyond retarded to me.

Don't get why loli isn't allowed either.

I'm fine with the occasional /d/ tier thing slipping by if it's a staple of the genre and is relevant to the thread.

>>4160134
>I never really understood why western stuff was banned from /h/ and /d/ anyway,
It's because Hentai is Japanese drawn porn, not Western drawn porn. They have /aco/ now.
Personally, I would allow Western artists on /h/ if they're clearly meant to emulate the Japanese style (such as ghettoyouth; his Manga are even read from right to left).

The only problems with all porn boards are the /r/ faggots and cuckold (also known as """interracial""") posters.

>>4160134
Because western cartoon porn on a hentai/japanese cartoon board is about as fucking stupid and out of place as hentai/japanese cartoon board on a western cartoon porn board. You fucking lobster.

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>>4160154
The Western designation should be style, not the country the artist hails from or the language they speak. Anyone that thinks otherwise needs some time away from technology to reflect upon their life.

>>4147494
Okay but we will stop posting borderline /d/ material when /d/ isn't filled with futa diaper giantess scat porn that gets more activity than things that really ought to belong in /h/ in a specialized thread.

IMO we have become too segmented. We have /e/, /h/, /aco/, and /d/. Seriously, that's 4 places hentai could technically wind up (some Western artists IMO are more Eastern than Western).

>>4160154
>>4160180
Suppose you were an anonymous artist where no one had any idea where you lived. You draw eastern, but live in the states or something.

Where would we categorize their art? In Hentai. How would we tag it? Hentai. What do we call it? Hentai.

Suppose they say where they come from at any point a few years later. Now we have to go re-categorize everything in g.e.hentai from them, stop posting their stuff in /h/, and so on?

Their country of origin has literally zero weight. It's how they draw, and that is indeed a very grey area.

>>4147595
Fl
I'm fucked

OP should stop whinning and ignore the tame /d/ leaks.
They are light /d/ which is good because mny of us like that shit, but /d/ goes to far with their crazy fetishes.

But seriously just ignore the shit, things are moderated, just we can't go full /d/.

>>4147552
>There's nothing wrong with loli, that shit should be allowed here already ffss.

Because, you know. You're gonna be over 40 years of age and you're gonna fap to depictions of 12 year old girls.

There are people IRL that'll put a gun to your head if you think you're coming for their daughter(s). They're the same people who don't care if a little girl is a 2D cartoon. "You're a grown person fappin' to a cartoon of a child. We ain' gonna trust you with a real one."

I personally agree that the rules should be enforced. For the sake of getting you lazy bums off your asses and out of your comfort zones; but mainly because there should be other places to go for people who want shit. We like for 4chan to stay around longer and avoid unnecessary bullshit.

>>4162490
There's absolutely no bullshit related around lolis you goof. ''M-muh feelings start here.''
It's already allowed on /b/, the very same site you're already using as well. It should be allowed here already. Loli is allowed on boorus, sankaku, sadpanda, multiple places, all in the states. Stop being a crybaby and caring about what some normies think of, they're not here either so why should we care about what they think? Jesus Christ your post entirely.
Loli doujins are as well posted on sadpanda threads on /a/ as are loli threads just without the porn. This is all fictional, nothing to do with reality. Hell this site started with having /l/ as a board.

Also this >>4150969.