/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>>62123030
Reminder:

>>62123013

>>62123051
Thanks for reminding us that anon has too much melanin.

>>62123070
Thanks for reminding us you're a poorfag in denial :^)

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>>62123030
Idol trash here.
What's your setup like, Anon?

>>62123116
I already have the song in Hi-Res, bought from mora.
That mp3 is encoded from the Hi-Res flac.

HD600. 2 options:

1) Schiit Modi Multibit + Valhalla 2

2) Schiit Jotunheim w/ Balanced DAC

Basically the question is, go tubes SE or solid state balanced? I've seen multiple people say the Valhalla 2 is basically made for the HD600 and is one of the best pairings out there. I don't use other headphones, so I don't need the versatility of the Jotunheim but I am curious about balanced.

>>62123140
>Transcoding to mp3
>When OPUS exists.
Anon, don't make umi cry.

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What is the second best headphone behind the HD600?

>>62123173
Pic + timestamp

>>62123164
Modi multibit + vali 2

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Family photo.

>>62123164
You can use modi multibit as source for the jotunheim, anon.
>balanced
Not sharing the ground makes some sort of sick sense in the output (amp -> headphones). The idea of a balanced DAC is fringe territory. AFAIK they're just using 2 DAC chips in mono instead of one in stereo to try and reduce crosstalk a little, as if it mattered at that point.

>>62123165
https://my.mixtape.moe/vrofmv.ogg
Happy now?

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>>62123216
>General
>Complete name : vrofmv.ogg
>Format : Ogg
>File size : 6.45 MiB
>Duration : 4 min 45 s
>Overall bit rate : 190 kb/s
>Writing application : opusenc from opus-tools 0.1.10
>ENCODER_OPTIONS : --bitrate 192 --vbr
>Audio
>ID : 19171 (0x4AE3)
>Format : Opus
>Duration : 4 min 45 s
>Channel(s) : 2 channels
>Channel positions : Front: L R
>Sampling rate : 96.0 kHz
>Compression mode : Lossy
>Writing library : libopus 1.2.1
Pic related.

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https://my.mixtape.moe/wxuutb.ogg

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>>62123216
And, as an aside, great job somehow uploading my all-time favourite "muse" (actually umi solo) song.
My whole cast muse best is aa mujou.
https://my.mixtape.moe/dmlnrx.flac

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>>62123030
is it still OK to spend retarded amounts of money on dynamic drivers? Or are planar magnetics / electrostatic just the way to go with higher-end headphones?

I might get a pair of pic related next year, i already hit my limit of $1000 spending on audiophool stuff this year

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Friendly reminder that the DAC x6 is a great value

>>62123357
>planar
Enjoy your ringing.

>>62123402
Not all planars have ringing

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https://my.mixtape.moe/ukltqt.ogg

>>62123390
pic tells us one thing
>it gets hot

>>62123402
That only happens on the 1060S

>>62123357
When you're spending assloads of money, it's better to try the equipment out before buying so you know what to expect.

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>>62123330 >>62123417
Excellent.

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I fell for these memes and I regret it.

>>62123451
pic and timestamp.

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>>62123425
It actually doesn't, it's always cold to the touch. The dragonfly under the kitten does however get hot.

>>62123451 >>62123468
Same person? What are your complaints on these memes?

>>62123200
Talk to me about the oppo pm-3. Would you use it at home over a mid-fi open back? Is it really worth it?
Been shopping for something that's not only an upgrade from my open back headphones at home(dt990 eq'd tho) but that I can use on the bus and between classes. So that means closed back or IEM.
Up between that oppo pm-3 and shure se535

>>62123468
No I don't own a thinkpad anymore or a hd600.
>>62123390
>>62123468
is same person

>>62123505
Similarly shitty camera.

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https://my.mixtape.moe/yeleqd.m4a

>>62123495
PM3s have no bass if you drive from your phone.

>>62123468
>>62123451
>>62123390
Jesus dude, at least turn on the lights to help a little that shitty camera.

>>62123495
I'd say the HD600 edges out the PM3 in overall tonality but the PM3 has some the best bass I've ever heard out of any headphone under a thousand bucks. The only better closed back is the Aeon, which is double the price. Biggest issue with the PM3 is that the cups are on the small side.
>>62123533
Not true in my experience.

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>>62123516
It's a moto e lte I got for $12. My samsung gs4 melted while charging on the official charged for about 10 minutes.
No more OTG dragonfly for me :(

>>62123357
>electrostatic
No bass impact.
>planar
Ringing.
>>62123415
All planars have the ortho wall to some degree.

>>62123357
Better spend money on acoustic treatment for you room and get something like LSR305. Because headphones are for fun and hobby, speakers are for listening.

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>>62123492
Not him.
>>62123466
Here you go babygirl

>>62123137
autism

>>62123584
Kek. Sennshills on suicide watch!

>>62123584
So why do you think you got memed?

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>>62123579
?

>>62123604
Because they're too small for my head

>>62123629
What are you an ogre?

>>62123629
Too much clamp? Not enough adjustment? Ears don't fit in cups?

>>62123558
fuk.
I love my OnePlus3 (running my own build, not its shitty standard firmware). All relevant idol games (llsif, deresute, mirishita) solid 60fps on max gfx settings without even getting warm, battery lasts forever, charges fast, amoled screen is awesome, camera is among the better ones and, to top it all, HD600 sound great directly connected to it.
Too bad they had to fuck up big time with the OP5 and its silly inverted screen.

>>62123629
>skull size
wtf?
How long have you had them for now? Else, did you do any stretching?

>>62123652
What are you, a manlet?

>>62123657
>>62123652
They're too tight. They have gotten better with time.

I'm using Sennheisers and no one can stop me!

Actually, they've been the most comfortable headphones I've ever had. I'm debating updating, though, and getting a new set.

>>62123705
Save money for a couple of months and buy the HD800S

>>62123621
>>62123402
>ringing
That's not what you think it is.
In any case, the "ringing" shown is totally inaudible. It is an artifact of the Fourier transform.

>>62123357
Stop acting like an idiot. Useless generalizations based on drive principle are really stupid.
Look at the headphone case by case, and see whether its flaws are tolerable for you.

>>62123527
>aac
I'm being trolled :(
>flac
https://my.mixtape.moe/jithfg.flac

>>62123723
The graph I posted doesn't show the "ringing".

>>62123723
>Look at the headphone case by case, and see whether its flaws are tolerable for you.
I think you are asking a little too much of people who tested maybe three good headphones in their entire lifes and yet think to know how everything sounds based on measurements alone.

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>>62123727
gomen gomen
https://my.mixtape.moe/gubtav.ogg

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What i should to buy with 100$? I not audiophile, i just like a good bass for my EDM songs.

>>62123822
M40x or CB-1

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post kino music

https://youtu.be/l404tUm1-xc

>>62123822
Or the MDR7506

>>62123814
>OPUS
Patrician taste in lossy codecs.

>>62123752
You mean like most of the Sennheiser shills that don't own the headphone? Like the ones who just splerged 300 burgers on a pair based on random autists suggestions and praise for it? The ones that misinterpret acoustic studies to fit their narrative and base a headphones sound quality around one of the easiest corrected aspects (frequency response) of objective performance?

>>62123822
M40x
Cb-1

>>62123834
>Anime
>Kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1wg1DNHbNU

>>62123846
>You mean like most of the Sennheiser shills that don't own the headphone
There's a shitload of actual HD600 owners in /hpg/. They aren't necesarily shills.
>frequency response doesn't matter.
Go away.

>>62123844
For bass, not that one, anon.

>>62123874
>Shitload of owners
>3
>One of which likes his akgs

Kek

>doesn't matter
Never said that. It's just one of the easiest things to fix.

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1/2
https://my.mixtape.moe/jeauzi.ogg

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>>62123846
lol this guy gets so mad when people like sennheisers or recommend them.

>>62123897
2/2
https://my.mixtape.moe/acgqmi.ogg

>>62123907
You should see all the Sennshills, when their headphone isn't recommended

>For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out the infographic in >>>/g/csg

yeah whatever

How does hpg feel about Sennheiser CX 300-II? They're $35 on Amazon. I feel like I want to step up from the cheap shit $8 ones I'm using, but I also don't wanna go crazy and spend hundreds on fucking earbuds. Are these pretty decent for the price?

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>>62123907
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>>62123941
Friendly reminder that you ignore the build quality of hifiman

>>62123950
>Being this angry
Kek. Just how poorfag are you?

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Are these any good? I was thinking about buying headphones a few years ago and people were talking about these in every /g/ headphone thread at the time, so got to assume they're pretty decent? I just remember them because I like how they look.

>Q701

I'm thinking about getting some headphones for listening to music with but equally as important if not a tad more is how they deal with films. For gaming people used to say if you want full immersion you've got to use headphones (are these good for gaming?) so I assume headphones can provide a really immersive film experience.

>>62123907
I guess you haven't been around long enough to see the shitshow hd600 owners (all 3 of them) and the shills start when their headphone isn't recommended or you mention the poor build quality. Dipolar is obnoxious, but sennheiser dickriders are another level of /hpg/ cancer.

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>>62123897 >>62123914
Very good. Yoshino Nanjo (eli ayase in love live) newish fripSide is good.
Here's some classic NAO colorless fate goodness.
https://my.mixtape.moe/nktquy.flac

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>>62123030
I need your help /g/

I won't spend over 100$ .. Which one of these two is better?

Or is there a third alternative I haven't considered?

I'm already leaning towards the audio technica because it comes with some nice stuff like two cords one straight one curly.

Im just hoping that material on the ears is not that shitty crumbly kind because I absolutely hate that

>>62123968
They are arguably the best AKG at that price point, but kek, be prepared for those headband bumps

>>62123968
Q701s are pretty good, yeah. Also consider the HD579 at that price point. Better comfort but worse soundstage.

>>62123969
There's literally one (1) sennhater around.
And he wouldn't be a sennhater if he actually used HD600 for a week or two. Apparently he tried them on a shop, and they were too neutral for his mistreated ears.

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>>62123970
Last song I post for today, a western gem.
https://my.mixtape.moe/tvmyiu.ogg

>>62123950
dude no one cares. the tripfag gives great purchase advice and has patrician music tastes (not weeb idol trash and anime intro music). I would rather see more of him than cringy sennheiser shills like OP and the amateur acoustics experts that prove how retarded they are every thread.

>>62123979
Open all the way

>>62123979
HD558 is also good for open, same level as the SHP. Status CB-1 for closed.

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>>62123970
The awesome Luna 2011 version isn't bad at all.
https://my.mixtape.moe/rusnyp.flac
>>62123996
Good taste is good.

>>62123991
>Being this delusional
Do YOU own HD 600s, dear anon?

>>62123732
That's not what I was going for.
Ringing artifacts are overwhelmingly dominated by both how time-frequency artifacts are managed and magnitude response. The general idea is that a CSD doesn't show anything you couldn't have seen in the so-called "frequency response".

>>62123752
>who tested maybe three good headphones in their entire lifes
It is fair to ask if you about money and time spent buying and returning/reselling a product you don't like.
It's simple enough to build some experience at discriminating your own taste, without needing to buy dozens of headphones.

>>62123991
there's more than one person who isn't a fan of sennheiser. For example >>62123051 owns the hd600s and likes all of his other headphones better.

He's listened to more headphones than you and didn't fall for the Sennheiser meme. Same as dipolar, and a few other anons who just don't like them because they have no bass and no treble as shown by countless measurements. I'm sorry that hurts your feelings.

>>62123986
>>62123988

Thanks guys, so I take it the band is notoriously uncomfortable then? Seems like it could be easily remedied with a little DIY. So if I'm spending these bucks, these are actually pretty top tier for the range?

>>62124029
That anon's long been confirmed melanin-enriched basshead.

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>tripcunt shows up
>HD600 shitposting starts

>>62124031
>Top-tier
Yes

>>62124031
>k701, k702, q701
Super exaggerated soundstage. Buy if you only care about soundstage. Else, get HD579 at similar price. Better balanced, more comfortable and durable.

>>62124038
Post your headphones and prove to us you aren't a poorfag in denial :^)

>>62124029
>no bass and no treble
maybe a v-shape sound is more for you but to say they have no bass and no treble is just retarded

>>62124038
>doesn't like hd600s
>"he likes niggerbass!"
>Le MELANIN MAYMAY HAHA CASUAL RACISM IS FUNNY XD

you're fucking trash and sennheiser is trash.

>>62124043 >>62124068
>totally a coincidence.
>tripfag definitely isn't falseflagging himself.

>>62124063
they have a bass roll off at 100hz and are -10 at 30hz. At 8khz they take a treble nosedive

They are muddy, mid centric headphones with a severe treble veil and a complete lack of sub-bass.

>>62124057
The HD 579s are only better when it comes to being neutral headphones, everything else goes to the Q70s (not including comfort)

>>62124105
HD579 are actually quite bassy.

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>>62124043
It is, I'm just standing on the sidelines and watching the senncucks make fools of themselves for the umpteenth time.

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>>62124096
but that's wrong, are you basing your opinion on graphs or have you spent time with the HD600?

>>62124115
and here's my trip, excuse-moi

>>62124115
The "senncucks" and the tripcunt are the same IRC shitposters, friend. Just thought you should know.

>>62124115
>shitposting using 4chan app.
>look mom no (you)s, using webbrowser app.

>>62123979
>>62123822
May as well consider the NVX XPT100. Padding makes it an easy to wear option.
>shp9500s
Bass rolloff starts unusually high up. Otherwise, the tone is fairly smooth and even.
>m40x
A less dark/bassy option than the M50x. Some treble harshness to it, and bass unevenness.
Some people find this one uncomfortable. I though it was just acceptable with fit.

>>62123936
Like other vast majority cheap in-ears, too many to count, it's super bass boosted. Isolation was pretty low, if that factors in at all.

>>62123968
If the K702 is the same price or lower, it would generally be the better choice. No bumps in the headband.
The AKG K612 is another option. It is a bit less sensitive overall than the 701 series and lacks the removable cable, but I find it to be overall more even toned than the 701-derived models.

>>62124128
Oh HAHAHAHAHA damn, now that's just way too obvious. Enjoy yourselves IRC kids.

>>62124127
>Headphones that measure worse is poorly sealed
>Headphones that measure better is nigger bass
Kek. Off yourself

>>62124133
literally no IRC trolling, that's some paranoid schizophrenic theory that a senncuck came up with.
>>62124136
this still makes no sense to me. I can't inspect element on a phone browser to my knowledge. Either way I've BTFO'd you schmucks repeatedly with screenshots.

>>62124145
>IRC CONSPIRACY MAYMAY

seek help

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>>62124156
I tend to agree with this review and graph. More accurate than hurr no bass and no treble.

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>>62124006
>>62124012
Fuck I'm retarded I don't know what you mean by open or closed. I looked up the hd558... Looks nice, just about the price range I'm looking for. Most of them on amazon are well over 100 though. I might just be looking wrong.

The status cb-1 looks SWEET and has the extra dual cable bundle the ATH has and at a lower price, plus a 5 star rating @ 300+ reviews.

What exactly makes the cb1 so godly?

Pls no bully I'm just getting back into my audio hobbies.

>>62124127
That graph is old and dated. GoldenEars' methods, not to mention Sennheiser's headphones, have changed over time. Do you have a more up-to-date graph, anon?

>>62124198
The CB1 is built somewhat worse than the other options. There are reports of the hinge cracking. Don't be an idiot and they'll be fine though.

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Oh and before the "PHONE AND CUMPOOTER SAME TIME" meme pops up again. Here's a pic of my computer off.

>"Muh laptop!"

I don't own a laptop

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>>62124207
>all this damage control

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>>62124216
Poorfag LMAO

>>62124222
Not an argument, my dear anon!

>>62124237
Post your headphones

The thread was so comfy, now is just a mess.

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>>62124240
>this graph proves my statements wrong so it's outdated

>>62124215
Well that explains the price. I really just want to make sure the sound quality is what I'd expect from 75-100$ headphones. I definitely plan on listening to vinyl + flacs & in general want a nice nuanced experience

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>>62124127
>Pukes

>>62123030
I love my Grado SR 225e's

>>62124269
>2011
>Not outdated
You nigger!

>>62124137
What makes the nvx better than the other options, including the cb-1 if you don't mind going into detail? Much appreciated

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>>62124269
Reminder:

>>62124161
>literally no IRC trolling,
About as believable as
>literally no bass!!11
>I can't inspect element on a phone browser to my knowledge.
You don't need too. Posts done with a 4chan app simply don't show as (you) on a different app such as a browser.

>>62123200
Can you review the audeze ones?
Are those LCD 2 ?

>>62124315
So your saying Sennheiser used to make HD600's that were better?

>>62124331
>Literally no bass
Correct!

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>>62124127
>>62124298
>starts vomiting again
>it's blood and plastic headband fragments

>>62124198
>open
Will sound better/price. Will let sound in and leak sound, an issue if there's people in the same room.
>cb-1
Excellent vs price closed set.
>HD558
Excellent vs price open set.

>>62123979
>apples vs oranges
One is closed and bassy. The other is open and bass lite/bright. One is a portable, the other isn't

But the shp is more comfortable, m40x is uncomfortable

>2 cables
Pointless reason to buy a pair of headphones. Both included cables are long as shit. You should replace the cables anyways

>>62124335
The HD 580 Jubilees were Sennheiser's best version. They really had to cut their budget after betting too much on shills to do the work for them

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>>62124329
>literally changing color
>same thin as fuck, high gauge wire leads to the voice coils
>durable build quality

>>62124373
That doesn't answer the question why an HD600 measurement from 2011 is now outdated

>>62124333
Yeah, LCD-2. Amazing 10/10 planar bass (totally different from 400i and PM3). It's slightly veiled up top but it mostly just lends it a relaxed sound. The only real issue I found is that the 10K spike can make the percussion in a few select songs a bit too loud. They're good enough that I feel no real need to EQ them, although they could probably benefit from EQ as every other headphone.

>>62124384
The see
>>62124207
>That graph is old and dated. GoldenEars' methods, not to mention Sennheiser's headphones, have changed over time.

>>62124350
Debunked. Poorly sealed.

>>62124406
>all this damage control

>>62124406
>Everything that doesn't fit my narrative of the hd600 being a good headphone is
>DAYBOONKED AND PEERRRLLY SEOOOLLEEDDD

wow what an intelligent rebuttal

What's the excuse about rtings HD600 graph and review where they say it has excellent treble? How do we go from no treble to excellent treble? How do we go from no bass to good bass slightly lacking sub bass?

>>62124379
>Popular headphones available some 1997
>headbands seldom snap
>cheap replacements available from sennheiser anyway
>for the headbands, and for every other part of the headphones
>sennhating DiPolarDisorder shitposter
>collecting pics of the rare snapped headbands
>posting them every damn time

>>62124428
Because rtings doesn't count, dear anon! The Sennheiser shills told me themselves!

>>62124428
Literally no treble!!
Literally no bass!!
SEE, THIS POORLY SEALED GRAPH SHOWS THE TRUTH!!
*snaps*

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>>62124435
Oops

>>62124198
Open back and closed back.
It directly relates to isolation. Open backed headphones open up the enclosure. It simplifies acoustics, at the expense of letting sound in.
Closed backed headphones are more difficult to tune, but block out external sound.
But really, it's just a matter of which one sounds better to you.

>>62124327
Large padding mostly.
A bit of bass boost to it, but not as much some other options. Probably more even midrange than the status and m40x. Less so than the 9500s, if I remember right.

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>>62124451
Correct!
>>62124452

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>>62123996
>3:50-3:55
I came a little.

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>>62124462

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>its the same exact arguments by the same exact shitposters doing the same exact samefag then argue against yourself schtick with the same exact shitty images and counter-images

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>>62124478

>>62124435
>WAHHHH HE ADDRESSES THE FACT THAT A HEADPHONE DESIGNED IN THE 90S STILL HASNT ADDRESSED THE HEADBAND SNAPPING WAAHHHH

this is what is known as "stupid autists will buy my product no matter how bad the build quality is so why fix an obvious structural flaw that's easy to address when we can charge money for a new part!?"
Also >>62124329
>using the absolute thinnest possible copper leads to ensure an easily breaking headphone
>that copper literally costs pennies to make thicker
>they wont

What beautiful, quality engineering!

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>/hpg/ is degenerate

>>62124484
Just ignore them, share some music instead.

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>>62124484
>It's the same old damage control to the same old images
I shiggy diggy
>>62124492

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>>62124500

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>uh oh no bass no treble lie proven false
>better resort to snapped headband pics

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>>62124514
>Proven false
Incorrect
>Better resort to snapped headband pic
Correct
>>62124508

>>62124496
My favorite part of this image
>the ps audio power conditioner/battery pack on the right side

In the event of a blackout, he could listen to music for about 5 more hours.

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>>62124524

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>>62124534

>>62124499
Here's my favorite track from the SnW OST.
my.mixtape.moe/iasshw.flac

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>>62124544

>>62124006
>>62124012
>>62124372
Looks like I'm going open, good to know. I definitely like comfortability. I feel not having that faux leather is a good choice too. That being said I actually like a V shape on the levels but prefer to hear the trebles better.

I had no idea open was better sound quality, I always assumed the opposite?

>>62124458
Awesome thanks. I feel I'm not really interested in the audio technica anymore, plus as another anon mentioned the cables are not a selling point anyway. I just ordered some cables from Clarke kable anyway so that is exciting.

After all considered it looks like the Phillips headphones are the way to go.

I guess I should un fuck my self

>Budget
100$

>Location
Florida

>Source
Stereo for vinyl / computer

>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
V shape

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https://youtu.be/dgWODIW50iE

Really enjoying their new album. Solo in this song is pretty sweet.

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>>62124595

>>62123137
>iso layout

Where are you from babe?

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no snap here loser

is there any amp that can power JBL S305 and HD600? im using a 2i2 atm

what are good cheap headphones I can get if I have big dumbo ears? I got superlux hd 681 because someone recommended them, but they're kind of uncomfortable.

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>>62124622
>That's supposed to be bending the headband
You are like a little baby

>>62124622
>>62124632
Your photo might just have answered my question are those KRK rockets?

>>62124635
>big dumbo ears
SHP9500. The pads are huge but they're a bit shallow

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>>62124636

>>62124636
They just need to go around a normal persons head not some hydrocephalus head

>schiit vali
Excellent taste, anon.
>gun
Be safe, in case of DiPolarDisorder.

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>>62124649
>t. manlet baby
>>62124647

>>62124657
>schiit vali
>excellent taste

Of all the entry level schiit products he bought the worst.

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>>62124674

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>>62124686

>>62124669
Why is it the worst?

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>>62124697
The moral of the story: Chink shit will bend
>>62124636
but $300 chink shit won't

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I was recommended the Sony MDR1A (48 ohms q.p) and the ATH-MSR7 (32 ohms) but i forgot to say i need something that's 50 ohms of impendence (for my LG v20 in high impendence mode) and no i can't just 'turn it on' , i can't do that manually as it senses the impendence of the headphones,

>>62124703
It's a "hybrid" amp that costs $70 more than the magni but provides worse performance while barely adding any of the sonically pleasing aspects of tube sound. It's not a terrible amp, but for the money esp. from schiit you can get better.

As far as decent, but still good tube amps go. The little dot mk II and mk III (the mkII is great for diy upgrades and tinkering) and the darkvoice 336se would be the best option for cheap tube amps. Those designs are output transformerless (great for headphones of high impedence) and use the tube compliments to their full potential

>>62123696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxK-NwSR5U Clamp/tightness gone.

>>62124645
isn't shallow the problem? the noise cancelling earmuffs I have are pretty small, but they fit fine because the inside part is big enough.

>>62124755
Can't you use an output impedance adapter as well?

How come the anonymous snap-spamming only happens when DiPolar is around?

>>62124807
PTSD from the Snapshills cause shitposting

>>62124755
>Using a phone to listen to music
lol

>>62124807
kneejerk reaction of sennshills to dipolar makes the snap shitposter spring into action.

>>62124848
Occam's razor.
>they're the same person.

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>>62124807
Really makes ya think, don't it?

>>62124807
I really don't know why. I commend him for doing gods work though.

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>>62124856
It's not. I'm sorry you're a paranoid schizophrenic. How would we post within 10 seconds of eachother anyway?

>only 3 hours through the general
>200 posters
>only 34 posters
Hmmm...

>>62124765
where did you hear the vali 2?

>>62124900
Reminder that starving the shitposter of (yous) is the only way to beat them. Note that he may reply to himself as anon - don't be fooled. Most have learned not to give him attention.

>>62124893
>How would we post within 10 seconds of eachother anyway?
>he asks feigning innocence knowing full well people have already figured out he's either posting with phone and PC simultaneously or simply rotating phone back and forth between wifi and data

>200 posters
Meant replies, fug

>>62124856
>assuming they're the same person
>Occam's razor

I don't think you know what that means anon

>>62124914
>Being this paranoid

>>62124703
Bad case of microphonics.
Also subpar performance and all, not that stopped anyone from buying audio products.

>>62124560
The issue with the SHP9500S is that it really lacks bass. The rest of it is fine, but it lacks bass.
Most of the other headphones mentioned, m40x, cb-1, xpt100, could be taken to have at least a mild V-shape.
>equalization
Equalization could clean all of them up. Give any of them a V-shape balance or flatten them out. The bass rolloff on the philips set poses a bit more of a problem though.

>>62124755
>V20
You should be able to work around that with an extension cable.

>>62124932
Anyone with halfway decent pattern recognition can spot obvious samefagging when it occurs over and over and over and over again.

>>62124957
Examples? Or are you just having a breakdown again, anon?

>>62124914
>>62124216

computer is still off. Changing between WiFi and data would not change my IP. >>62124912
>implying you can "beat" me
there's no war here. Just triggered sennshill babbies who start shitposting wars. I'm your god, get over it.

>>62124957
Protip: you're responding to one.

>>62123357
Electrodynamics and Electrostatics are the only good transducer technologies, Orthodynamics were scrapped for a reason. They only came 'back' because of some shitty boutique manufacturers who can't design good headphones anyway.

There's a reason why big companies like Sennheiser only use dynamics and electrostatics for even their ultra high end models.

>>62124957
Is this the part where you go on a schizoid witch Hunt of /hpg/s weeks old and then proceed to unironically samefag your weird delusional witchhunt shitposts as if it somehow invalidates my views and posts?

>>62124966
>Changing between WiFi and data would not change my IP.
Do you unironically believe everybody here is retarded and can't into basic network skills?

>>62124981
Correct!

>>62124932

>>62124952

>>62124957

>>62124964

>>62124966

>>62124981
All me!

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>>62125008
Thanks now I can fuck his ass again with a screenshot

>>62125029
This post is accurate. Also, Ruri a best.

>>62125029
Pic + timestamp

>>62125029
>>62125043
>oreimo
HD600 confirmed headphone of choice for 9gag tier taste

>>62125029
Kuroneko a cute. A cute!!

>>62124014
I really like this. Can you suggest some similar albums?

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>>62124830
It has quad DAC that is very very nice (friends have better headphones then me and wanted to try it , as they let me try too) it helps a good bit
>>62124801
I can yet i don't know if that would maybe hurt the headphones in any way, I'm considering the sony 48 ohm MDR-1A solely because it's more comfortable and id be more confident in using an adapter for it since it's only 3ohms off
>>62124952
Same as above, although thank you for the replies as this is a big decision for me personally and it's atleast helpful to get a reply instead of none

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>I hold strong opinions on devices I've never listened to

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>>62125029

>>62125078
>t. sennshills

>>62125078
That kind of shitposting won't work, anon. That goes both ways

>>62125075
https://nyaa.si/view/409552

>>62125080
Poorly sealed and thus invalid measurement.

>>62125089
>flac
let me succ ur thicc daddy

>>62125099
>all this damage control

>>62125076
But wouldn't the impedance issue only really affect the volume you'll be able to play the headphones at? Unless the impedance is really high I don't think it matters that much overall.

>>62125076
>quad DAC
It's really the onboard amplifier that would make any serious difference. The ESS DAC is the minimally important icing in this audio scenario.
>if that would maybe hurt the headphones in any way
It's just a short run of wire. Nothing special will happen to any audio signal, other than the connection.
An impedance adapter is counterproductive to what you are looking for. Plug in the extension cable in first, then plug in the headphone.

>>62124798
OH YOU WANT FAT DEPTH. Status CB-1, XPT100/HM5. Both of them have deep cups. The CB-1 can be had on the Status Audio site for $60 using coupon code 'status20'.

>>62124992
>are the only good transducer technologies
False
>Shitty boutique manufacturer
>Focal
False

>Dynamic driver: inexpensive to make and is easy to charge a premium for
>Electrostatic: expensive as fuck to make and usually has issues with bass but performs better for everything else
>Can charge extreme premiums for it

>Orthodynamic
>Better than dynamic drivers in every conceivable way
>Does bass better than elecrostatics but still not quite on par with electrostatics for everything else
>costs more than a dynamic driver to make, but less than an electrostatic
>Sennheiser doesn't do it because it would shit on their hdxxx line but also be more expensive.
>They'd have trouble selling $300 memecans with $10 drivers in them wrapped in chink plastic because of orthodynamic options

>>62125239
Forgot to add there're the 280/380 Pro

>>62125242
>Focal
>Orthodynamics in 2017
lol

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https://my.mixtape.moe/nqohzj.flac

Her voice feels like its making love to my ears
Nothing feels quite so good.
We're all in it for the music, right?
If I could chose I would fly with you to the moon

>orthos
Heavy and ringing. Inferior technology.

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>>62125282
who are you talking to?

>>62124992
>shitty boutique manufacturers
>audeze lcd-1 measures better than anything sennheiser has made ever

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>>62125126
>>62125136
My mistake then on impedance, i thought it would make the quality better overall, might've been the placeboo on my part from marketing, although what determines great sound quality in headphones ?

>>62125314
>modification of an existing headphone = designing a headphone from scratch
Why do you think the LCD-2 and onward have been such disasters?

>>62125282
Only shitty budget planar magnetics (stop calling them orthos) have ringing (M1060, HE400i, HE560), just like how only shitty budget dynamics have bass distortion problems.

>>62125320
>(stop calling them orthos)
Fuck off retard
>HE560
>'budget' planar magnetics
Do you actually think the Audeze lineup is any better?

>>62125320
Planars are great, ignore him. Probably just mad he had to sell his GPU for his HD600 because video games and bass are for niggers.

Have some wild horses
https://my.mixtape.moe/tabjub.flac

>>62125333
Yes. See >>62123621

>>62125319
>such disasters
>entire lcd line measures better than sennheisers best offerings
>praised by audio reviewers

kek

>orthofags are the new akgfags
gross

>>62125349
who are you talking to?

>>62123621
did Beyer design those LCD2s?
>>62125353
see >>62125349

>>62125359
The FR on that is not indicative because it was not measured in a HATS. However it does show that the "ortho wall" is not present.

>>62125359
yeah I saw it.

who are you talking to? you seem insecure

>>62125368
>the measurement isn't relevant but it is
fuck off cherrypicking autist

>>62125371
Strawman. Try to understand my argument.

>>62125369
see >>62125349

>>62125371
>he thinks thats a frequency response graph

gross

>>62125336
>just mad he had to sell his GPU for his HD600 because video games and bass are for niggers.
Holy shit, I have never seen something so accurately describe /g/.

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>>62125378
the only measurement out there that doesn't have ringing on an audeze headphone is also one that shows a peyer peak (which it has btw) while you try to ignore the fact that the FR is shit and praise the CSD, which is just a function of the FR anyway. what a fucking joke your argument is

>>62125320
All planars have the ortho wall to some degree.

>>62125388
>unironically being clueless as to what a CSD is
go back to plebbit you embarassingly stupid dipshit

>>62125380
so... no one? you're talking to no one? you're shitposting false information?

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>>62125395
What am I even supposed to say to this? Literally every "fact" you present in this post is wrong. You're clearly not arguing in good faith so fuck off.

>>62125409
see >>62125349

>>62125414
>What am I even supposed to say to this?
try to think up another bullshit invalid argument and embarrass yourself further retard

>>62123621
>measured with a fucking sponge

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>>62123621
Nice cherrypicked graph.

>>62125395
>>62125408
>I'm just going to keep yelling nonsensical garbage into /hpg/ because I know my understanding of the topic is limited so I'll just act like an edgy acoustics engineer
>my argument was invalidated 3 posts ago but I'll continue to masquerade as the more intelligent individual by stringing a bunch of big words together and then throwing out insults
>I sold my graphics card for hd600s and now that I've realized how shitty they sound I'll use my spare time to shitpost against far superior technologies.

>>62125460
go back to plebbit you retarded newfag

>>62125450
That argument can go both ways, anon

>>62125471
Thanks for proving him correct

>>62125477
his graph is representative of every other graph on the internet though, hell it actually shows the lcd2 in an incredibly good light compared to every other measurement on the internet.

>>62125460
>>62125486
obvious samefag.

>>62125471
>I know how wrong I am so I'll just keep telling him to go back to le Reddit because my original argument is the equivalent of a dumpster fire
>I'm a NEET with no real understanding of the topic outside of spending lots of money on overpriced headphones so I'll continue to shitpost
>mom burned my tendies so I'm having an autistic rage fit and I may shit my pants

>>62125489
Thanks for being autistic
>Inb4 m-m-muh inspect element!

>>62125509
>>62125498
>exactly the same typing style and autistic way of arguing
way too obvious.

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>>62125509
Pic related

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>>62125516
>Anything I don't like is samefagging!
I shiggy diggy

>>62125522
>>62125532
are you even trying anymore

>>62125516
>>62125489
>after getting royally assblasted about making a retarded argument against much better measuring headphones, I will proceed to make samefag accusations in order to somehow make up for my flawed argument and complete lack of understanding of the topic
>somehow, these samefag accusations validate my flawed and nonsensical argument against a headphone I don't like
>I have the intense desire to sell my hd600s and buy a graphics card again or better headphones, but I must hold back the urge to have fun and enjoy my downtime because videogames and accurate, non rolled off bass response triggers my cringy, autistic racism by fitting some non existent stereotype based on the idea that melanin has anything to do with psychoacoustics or playing videogames

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>>62125545
>I don't have anymore arguments
At least you tried, anon
All me
>>62125522
>>62125532

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>>62123030
>Sunday night before school week for kiddies

>mysteriously there's double the amount of shitposting from children who have not tried or purchased any headphone over $100

oh well

>>62125545
>after having my samefag accusations proven incorrect, I will say "HAHA ARE YOU EVEN LE TRYING?! XD" in a desperate, autistic, and delusional attempt to validate my poorly contrived and fundamentally flawed original argument.
>I should probably learn to take my medication like mommy told me. Maybe I can get a job.

>>62124952
Thanks for being so helpful.

What can I do to equalize it? Is there a program for windows I can find? I plan on buying a 24 bit USB monitoring interface. I use winamp... But maybe there is something better you can suggest to do that for the computer?

As far as these specs go, the SHP sounds ideal; though I love hearing treble I do enjoy a nice punchy bass.

Is there possibly a better option? You mentioned the NVX. I don't mind equalizing at all, but just curious.

>>62125572
>he doesn't think you can get a dynamic over ear headphone with a competent enough driver to EQ well for $100
l m ao

>>62125586
Equalizer APO. For a tutorial on how to use it on headphones that have credible measurements available for them: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/how-to-automatically-eq-your-headphones-to-online-measurements-a-step-by-step-guide.854773/

>>62125572
>He doesn't have perfectly eq'ed $10 shitbuds
Kek. That's why they call people like us audiophools. Have fun wasting your money and getting scammed!

>>62125572
>implying spending over $100 on headphones is a sign of maturity and financial stability
>implying this thread isn't a collection of triggered sennheiser shills

>>62125603
I unironically advocate EQ'ing $10 HJE120 because they're comfy as fuck.

>>62125608
>>implying spending over $100 on headphones is a sign of maturity and financial stability
Never said this. Thanks for enforcing my point I guess

>>62125589
I don't have one but I bet SHP9500S EQ's just fine.

Why is Sennheiser so much better than every other headphone manufacturer?

>>62125660
Pic of headphones + timestamp

>>62125596
Noice

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>>62125660
It isn't.

>>62125732
>unironically posting an image from a SEO-boosting PBN as if it means anything

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Was this a fun thread, anons?

>>62125744
>Source doesn't fit my narrative

kek

>>62125752
kys faggot

>>62125807 new thread

>>62125804
Rude! You should work on your manners, anon!

>>62125318
>what determines great sound quality in headphones
You do. Full stop.
The listener determines sound quality because quality is subjective phenomenon. If you like it, then it is good. If you don't like it, then it is low quality.

When it comes to the stimulus, we look at only the sound signal, the end result. These can broken down into linear and non-linear results. The impedance stuff falls into the linear effects.
There is a voltage drop at the adapter, whether series resistor or real voltage divider, reducing the level of the signal that gets to the headphone. In addition, the impedance the headphone "sees" is dependent on the resistances in the adapter. You are then subject to a skew in the sound tone, as the voltage drop at the adapter is not constant at all audio frequencies. A voltage divider can be built around this issue, but at the cost of a huge drop in signal level (much less loud).
Between the non-linear processes of the middle ear and masking, non-linear distortion can be difficult to hear except with either abnormal signals or very large amounts.
There's a lot more I could say, but only if you want to.


>>62125586
Equalizer APO is the usual Windows option these days. People used to use it with the PEACE extension before EQAPO included its own graphic interface. I'll leave it to you what to go with.
>other options
XPT100 presents another option, as did the other headphones. HD558/559 and AKG K240 are models off the top of my head, and even more if we go with used headphones.
The obvious motive for picking something else is that you aren't going to waste as much overhead on the other headphones, hopefully. The bass EQ for the Philips set will cut into your volume level, and the bass slope is worse than average. At least the headphone is fairly sensitive to make up for it.

The EQ guide linked looks alright from a quick skim, should be fine for basic purposes.

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>>62126045
After looking at the HD 558 and the akg k240, I'm starting to agree: I'm motivated towards less of that overhead. Some of these things you're mentioning about the Phillips set are a bit of a turn off -especially if eqing is going to compromise my volume levels.

The xtp reviews state that it is a neutral profile, and I'm not really digging the wiring set up.

I'm now torn between the hd558, k240, and the ATH AD700X...

Of those three, which is going to get me a better v shape, or otherwise balanced sound that isn't hitting a below average bass slope

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I don't think the XPT100 is -that- neutral, it has some bass boost.
>cabling
3.5mm TRS to 2x 3.5mm TS connectors. I think.

AD700X (and most of the open backed ATH air monitor really) is also known for bass problems like the philips.
I guess you could go back to the Status Audio set for simplicity. I would still suggest equalization.
558/559 and k240 are more balanced options.
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