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>>60929132
first for all business laptops

theyre all good you guys
well most of them at least

Has anyone done the Intel ME firmware update for their Sandy Bridge Thinkpads? I've tried to get it running on my W520 but whenever I run the Windows command line, I keep getting the error message "FWUpdLcl.exe is not recognized as an internal or external command", ie Lenovo's program cannot execute the ME update agent. Is there a way around this?

>>60929132
Is the thinkpad x60 still good?

>>60929344
Depends on distro. Win7 and both xp are shitty on it.

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*blocks your path*

>>60929360
I'm planning on running probally debian.

What battery life checking utility should I ask the potential seller to send screenshots of?

>>60929709
lenovo's power manager will tell you how many cycles the battery has seen

it will also tell you it's full charge Wh capacity and it's original design Wh capacity, although this one can be inaccurate if the battery has not been calibrated in awhile, but any other battery checking utility would just give the same number

>>60929365
I might be a pleb, but what's wrong with new keyboards? I get that it's a bit different, but it's not as bad as people say

>>60930179
theyre a bit different feeling apparently (wouldnt know Im perfectly happy with the one my T430)
and they have a very bastardized layout compared to a regular desktop keyboard where the older classic keyboard was a bit closer to a regular keyboard.
that said the new keyboards are said to have less flex

honestly both keyboards are pretty nice feeling and especially if youre coming from a shitty laptop like me and are used to using shitty keyboards it really doesnt matter which one you use.

>>60930179

prtnscreen key should be a menu key

other than that I'm fine with it

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CAN YOU POWER ON + LOG IN VIA FINGERPRINT READER IN LINUX

>>60930400
Woah man, just noticed that. I thought there was no such key

I have an x220 i7 model and when compiling it regularly goes up to 90+°C. Is it likely to be shit thermal paste or just fuck tons of dust?

>>60930572
possibly both, is the thermal paste the same as when you first got it?

>>60929132
been running a T61P for quite a while now with windows 7, and I gotta say, it's a damn nice machine. no slow down, consistent performance and video playback, and all while i play runescape in the background (yeah i'm a faggot).

>>60929132
Thank you for removing the HP garbage.

> (≤**30)

Dropped.

>>60930179
The layout

>>60930878
Yeah. I was planning to change it anyway, just haven't got round to it.

Got a t450 touchpad and a "high gamut" IPS for my t440p, let's hope this shit works out for me.

The panel is glossy, how bad did I fuck up?

>>60931128
Nothing personal, kid

>>60930462
yes, google it
there's an arch wiki article

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1ZD53R3965

Why's it so cheap?

Hey /g/uise i found this link http://thinkwiki.de/Tastaturrenovierung from a german wiki. And it seems like a way to restore the thinkpad's keyboard texture back. Have any of you tried something like this ? And if there is a german fag around can he translate this ?

>>60935697
seems pretty average

>>60935804
there's browser add-ons for that or just use google chrome, or google translate
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fthinkwiki.de%2FTastaturrenovierung&edit-text=&act=url

tl;dr lacquer, I think

My Toshiba's backlight just died and thinking of replacing it with a T530. Doubt it's worth repairing.

I'm looking at the following;
Lenovo T530 3rd Gen i5 2.6GHz 8GB 320GB
For $253.00 USD.

Thoughts?

>>60935839
well i did the translation but some details are not translated very well. Because i dont have a spare keyboard to mess with, i dont want to follow wrong instructions.

Is this a good price ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/382099492714

>>60929132
Can you guys help.
My t420s screen stays black when I boot. It beeps after booting and flashing the light from the webcame with 1 - 3 - 3 - 1 beep which comes out to DIMM or Mobo problems.
What the fuck do I do? I took out the RAM, put it in the opposite slots and retried, do I need a new mobo?
Where do I get a cheap one from china or something, its not even the nvidia one, I'd replace it myself if its not too hard or is the price better to just get a new laptop?
Anyone have this prob or know how to fix?

>>60935697
i5

>>60935971
If it isn't the FHD panel don't do it.
T530 owner.

>>60937007
I had a similar problem, called Lenovo and they sent a next day air box, had it back in under 72 hours.

Best 1080p panel for a W530?

Guys, i need help
I'm planning to buy an old T530 with an SSD and a DVD R/W. Can i replace the DVD R/W for an HDD later ?

>>60929132
Which thinkpad is most usable but also gubmint proof? don't want me no management engine

Please put /tpg/ or some variant in the subject of the OP. You're evading my filters.

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Buy Macbook Pro now, or wait for Thinkpad Retro this fall?

>>60937973

I hope they don't use that ugly logo.
Still, can't wait to buy a used one 5 years after it comes out

Has anyone here overclocked their cpu through coreboot?

And if so, what would be a better option i5 overclocked or i7? I'm assuming the i5 would clock a lot higher but maybe not.

>>60938050
>Still, can't wait to buy a used one 5 years after it comes out

THEY BETTER US A MXM GPU REEEEEEEEEEEEEe

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My newly purchased x230's screen flexes in the upper left corner. Is this a big deal that will get worse over time? I did just get it within the last week, but I'll also be leaving the country come monday, is this a big enough deal to send it back?

Flashed my x60T to Libreboot but now the screen doesn't work because it turned out to be one of the screen versions that wasn't supported. Taking this as an opportunity to upgrade to a SXGA+ screen.

Libreboot supports both x60T SXGA+ screen versions, BOE-Hydis HV121P01-100 and HV121P01-101. Not sure what the difference between the two is though. Do both of these work with the stylus? I think I remember reading that one is glossy and the other is matte. Can someone confirm this and which distinguish is which?

Also, any reputable sellers out there? I've found a few panels on eBay but there's barely any info provided besides the model number. I have a feeling the sellers barely know English. No ad mentions anything about stylus support, matte/glossy, and anything about ThinkPads.

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>Budget:
$200-300
>Location:
Hong Kong
>Size:
Nothing too tiny, but I need something portable, light and thin.
>Performance:
Need something with long battery life, I miss the MBP battery life from my work laptop
>Other requirements:
Weight- my current laptop is over 2kg, I need something I can put in my bag and not worry about lugging it around all day.

Thinking x220 or x240, thoughts?

>>60938391
x220 is cheaper

>>60938391
X230 with 9 cell battery. If you prioritise battery life over display quality, you could opt for a non ips screen too. I use mine for general office stuff, fucking around with HTML / CSS and browsing. 7-10 hours of battery life on average, sometimes more. Being in Hong Kong is probably going to be advantageous in acquiring replacement and upgrade components too.

think my t420 is dying lads. since building my ryzen machine it's been lying in my bedroom which is ridden with damp. i booted it up in between then and now and installed a base gentoo system on it and then left it there. yesterday i installed a new kingmeme ssd, ran tails on it for about half an hour and noticed that it wouldn't boot unless i took the battery out for 5 seconds. today i turn it on and the screen looks "red shifted", on a white background it looks as if the red is shifting and oscillating, the fan exhaust smells musty and the problem with turning it on and off is getting worse. has anyone got any clue of what to do? i tried the funny static discharge power button trick, seemed to do nothing.

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Budget:
£30-70
Location:
UK
Size:
Doesn't really matter, just needs to be portable but nothing much bigger than about 12"
Performance:
Pretty much only gonna use this for basic level print "Hello world" tier programming and will always be near a power socket so battery life doesn't need to be much more than a couple hours, I just need something I can drag around with me, could run Linux and do basic internet browsing.
Other requirements:
None

>>60940566
T400?

>>60929365
*replaces it with classic tp keyboard*
Nothing personal chiclet-san

>>60929132
desu tfw i want the x220 but nobody ships to israel and those who do charge ((($200-$300))) just for the shipment
even from europe

>>60940742
Budget:
>$200-$300
Location:
>Israel
Size:
>x220
Performance:
>x220
Other requirements:
>make it ship to my country
>doesn't need to have an hdd, ram or battery although it's preferable
>must have a working screen

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>>60940761
>>60940742
You're a Jew, use your uber merchant/business skillz.

>>60940832
>IMG_6296>uses an iphone
you have no right to speak

>>60940846
It was downloaded from one of the threads here. Blame the guy who posted it.

>>60940742
>>60940761
מכיר מישהו באר"הב?

Can I put mac os x on top of coreboot? Thinking of getting an x230t, flashing coreboot and putting in a proper keyboard. Trouble is i need MacOS for work.

>>60940639
This Seems to have pretty much more than everything I'd need, However it does seem to be consistently over £70 when searching around eBay, but if I lurk for awhile Maybe I'll find one cheaper. If there is still a cheaper alternative to the T400 that you know of that'd be dope

>>60940951
Try gumtree

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Help me /tpg/ for I am having a crisis of faith.
Long have a walked the righteous path with the stalwart T420s in pic related yet yesterday a temptor bestowed the in all but screen POS on the left in pic related. /g/entlemen, forgive the potato quality and deceptive angle but the screen quality of the T420s is truly cancer. This sad fact driven home by the consumer trash HP to its right.
>but I have to look at the screen all day long
/tpg/ breathren, whence can I find a worthy successor to the T420s yet with a display worthy of its heraldry? Can I have it all?

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all thinkpads up until 2016 have shit screens that use low quality PWM panels that will fuck up your eyes; extremely noticeable especially on low brightness

the screen is arguably the most important part of the laptop, the part that interfaces that interfaces with the user

please think before you throw your money

>>60941329
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/General-Discussion/Low-PWM-frequency-affects-recent-ThinkPad-models/td-p/3283063

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8DtfmbDDEw

enjoy your shit screens

>>60940879
לצערי לא
אם יהיה מספיק ביקוש אולי כדאי לנסות לעשות רכישה המונית

>>60940951
I should've mentioned I'm Scottish, Most shit on Gumtree is down in London. Not sure how great of an idea it is to buy without actually seeing the product beforehand from Gumtree.

>>60941459
:/
קשה לי להאמין
אולי תחפש מאירופה?

>>60941329
>>60941371
Okay, what do then. How do the screens on the Latitudes and Precisions compare to Lenovo's efforts?

>>60939952

Damn Keb, that sucks.

>>60941792
check for reviews of the model and the display, look for PWM

>>60941371
of course it shows up on camera, but it's nowhere near that visible in real life
same shit happens with my t420 and t430

>>60941792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jrIUU6oFfM

>>60942066
why dont you lower the brightness and see how it feels, theres a reason high end displays are pwm free.

there is no benefit with PWM

>>60937636
Yes

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_Serial_ATA_Hard_Drive_Bay_Adapter_III

>>60942103
it looks the same because the pwm flickering is far faster than the human eye can perceive.
cameras can see it because they use a quick snippet of time, while our eyes are continually open

If I were to sell an X220, should I flash back the official latest BIOS or just leave the modded one in there?

I mean I considered that maybe a new buyer would just mess things up with the settings.

>>60941910
hoping i was gonna get auicker reply on the so called leddit

this has probably been asked/answered a million times but how do you clean the screen?

I have two thinkpads with dirty screens I always find conflicting advice when I google what to do.

>>60942846
piss on a towel works best, make sure it's your own though

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>>60929132
Are these x220 temps unreasonable for browsing the internet?

Feels like my PC's gotten warmer compared to when I first got it two years ago (and replaced the paste myself)

>>60942866
pretty sure the ammonia in your pee will damage the screen

>>60942882
you have a laptop in your kitchen?

>>60942846
it's not rocket science, it's just a piece of glass

microfiber towel/rag for dust
damp microfiber towel/rag for gunk
window cleaner + microfiber towel/rag for caked on snot and cum

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Is this a good one to get for $500?

i7-3720QM 2.60 GHz, 16GB, 500HDD, NVIDIA Quadro K1000M


I just need it for minecraft and internet

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>>60942893
Your room is your kitchen when you live in a studio

>>60942924
no

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>>60942882
Looks alright to me. pic related T420s whilst shitposting

>>60942952
what else would you reccomend in this price range?

>>60942524
220hz cant be seen? are you retarded?

>>60942957
Okay, just wanted to make sure. I probably just need to hose it with some compressed air then.

Thanks anon

>>60942524
https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-SWIFT-PG258Q/

this monitor is 240hz, the PWM on thinkpads is 220hz

are you saying we cant see 240hz? why is Asus making a 240hz monitor?

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Found an X230 for $120. Looks to be in good condition.

>i5-3320M
>4GB
>300GB 7200 RPM drive
> Ultrabase dock included
>6 cell battery

What should I checkfor? Apart from Bios password and Computrace?

>>60942968
Refurb X1 Carbon for $430 maybe.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-thinkpad-x1-carbon-14-refurbished-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-128gb-solid-state-drive-black/5831531.p?skuId=5831531

>>60943054

wifi card linux support

broadcom is a PIA

>>60943054
the tablets suck don't bother

>>60941303
I think the (((T440))) has a decent screen

>>60943101
This is just copied and pasted from the posting:

>WIFI Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 (2x2 AGN 300Mbps)

Should I have issues?

>>60943112
This is for the non tablet version

>>60941542
meant for
>>60940954

>>60943158
pic >>60943054 is a tablet

>>60943158
I have the same card, works well in ArchLinux.

>>60943180
Thank you

>>60943165
Yeah, but thats not the pic from the ad, just a random pic

>>60943180
does it fuck work well in linux. guzzles power, refuses to work with power save mode and requires non-free firmware

>>60943204
How do you know how much power it draws?
>refuses to work with power save mode
You mean hibernation/suspend to RAM? Both work.
>requires non-free firmware
So?

>>60943224
you can get the power consumption from the battery using powertop and it's clear that it drains a fuckton of power by comparing it hard blocked and unblocked
the iwlwifi module has a power_save parameter that TLP uses, it works for a while saving a couple of watts and then dies requiring you to disable it if you want it to work smoothly for a reasonable amount of time.
besides the fact non-free firmware makes it harder to install distros like debian, where the fuck do you think you are?

>>60943275
Your points are valid, however
>caring about net card blob when you have AMT vPro and other such shit, plus a non-free UEFI/BIOS

>>60943308
its really just a matter of convenience and not having to seek out a special debian iso with firmware

>>60943352
I don't know why do people install server distros on a Laptop anyway.

>>60943363 (You)

I am looking at Dell precision line now, since apple shit the bed with the new MBPs. Does anyone have any experience with the build quality and trackpad quality on those?

>>60943051
For dick waving

>>60942910
can I use armor-all window cleaner and car window detailing rags?

>>60943712
sure

>>60938401
I want to buy a X220 to libreboot it. Is there any confirmation now or do I have to wait till December?

>>60943827
you can't libreboot an x220

What is a think pad that can have 32g ram and what is a think pad that can have 64g ram?

>>60944569
p50

>>60944569
W520 and newer

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>>60931128
newer thinkpads while still decent are not the same Real ThinkPad Experience™ as older models.

best panel to get for x230?

>>60944909
https://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=122640

>>60944569
>32g ram
>64g ram
>256g ram?
>1024g ram!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>60944785
Except the xx30 series is objectively the best out of all of them.

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>>60945070
>objectively

I need thinkpad advice.
>Im a sorta poorfag,
>i want to be able to beat the shit out of it like i do my gf
>i dont care if it weights a ton
>dedicated graphics would be nice but unnecessary.
>15in or 14in.
what do?

So I have an x200 with a HDD inside and an used SSD. Does x200 have to slots for drives or should I just replace the old one?

>>60945255
x200 only has 1 drive bay

>>60944654
w520 can do 32?
I know the w530 can do 32 but can the w530 do 62?
And if the w520 can do 32 can it do 62? if so
what would be the difference between the two with similar ram and both being i7's
(assuming graphics card)

>>60945455
You need DDR4 to do 64

Which lubuntu version would work best on a T61?

>>60945501
http://www.pc-wholesale.com/46w0672.html?gclid=CM30j8C8xdQCFYK2wAodJ1IEUQ

? DDR3 16g (x1)

>>60945582
you are going to have a hard time fitting that into a SODIMM slot

>>60945070
yes, if you mean xx30 with xx20 keyboard.

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A good friendo gave me two thinkcentres M58, but I have absolutely no clue what I can do with that, I have some HDD laying around but I don't feel like it would be worth as a NAS.

X301 for 50€
Worth it?

>>60945665
yes

>>60945628
>SODIMM
https://www.ebay.com/i/192023621230?chn=ps&dispItem=1

???

>>60945552
I have been using 16.04 but 17.04 would work as well. Must be the comfiest distro thanks to LXDE. Gnome is such a piece of shit.
Al thought you can get 8gb ram in T61 but the ram is very expensive because it is DDR2 (60$ for one 4gb stick) in total of 120$. It would more worth just selling it and getting T400 or T410 instead, with support for DDR3

>>60945653
>I don't feel like it would be worth as a NAS
why? I'm using an old toshiba laptop with an external HDD over USB2.0 as a media server, works just fine.
Transfer speeds do not exceed 100Mb/s, but for basic home media server that's fine.
And since thinkcentre is not a laptop you could upgrade the NIC and get faster speed if you wanted to.

>>60945684
>5TH 6TH GEN i3 i5 i7

>>60937973
>no browser keys
To the trash it goes

>>60945285
Oh, ok. Anything cool I could put in the second miniPCI express slot?

I know one can replace the keyboard on an X230 with one from X220. But what about the palmrest with the touchpad?

>>60946232
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads#Method_1:_Replace_the_xx30_Palmrest_with_a_xx20_Palmrest
apparently you can

Any way to make firefox scroll smoothly using trackpoint instead of mouse wheel scroll emulation?
Chrome scrolls almost pixel-by-pixel when I press the trackpoint lightly, Firefox scrolls a couple of lines at a time.

>>60945730
So does a w530 / w520 / t430 i7 count?

>>60947537
no, those are not 5th or 6th gen

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>chiclet keyboard keys can't be removed without breaking them

Just removed half of my X230's keys to was them as I did every year with my T420s and BAM, nearly all the key's scissors broke and won't stay in their place.

I'll had to buy a new keyboard and the replacement won't arrive at least in a month.

Fuck Lenovo.

Why the fuck has nobody talking about the Advanced Dock? It looks amazing.
Too bad the T410 didn't get one like that.

>>60947537
>>60945684
>>60945582
>>60945455
jesus christ anon you dipshit
you either need 4 slots if youre using ddr3 or ddr4

>>60945649
That's subjective, but I agree.

>>60945088
Yes, retard.

Name a single thing that any model sub xx30 does better. The only thing is 16:10/4:3, yet those are too outdated to be workable machines. For those aspects you get an X62 or T70.

Get with the program loser, your sub-par machines are no longer welcome here unless you're too poor to afford the extra $20.

>>60938191
>MXM GPU

Not possible, that's gonna have a ULV given the thickness, and ULVs never have MXM.

>>60945131
post vids of beating gf

>>60947885
It's the same with the classic keyboard, don't worry...

Who was the W550s FOR exactly? What person in their right mind would buy a workstation with an ultrabook CPU? How is that useful to ANYONE?

WTF

>>60948338
I bought the P50s which was the same thing.

It's really just a T550/T560 with a GPU that's slightly better for 3D modeling work.

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fell for the dell, $105 no hard drive no power cable, added a $50 ssd and $10 charger

>>60948418
>Latitude E series
I fucking hate those things so goddamn much
Had to repair like 8 of the stupid pieces of shit every day at a job

>>60948418
you did alright. looks fairly comfy

>>60948436
What were the issues?

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Anyone else addicted to the T/X60?

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>>60948436
I have begin to hate HP whole heartily while Dell being my go-to if IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads are not a option to pick.
pic related, modern Dell laptop (7th gen)

Last question
w520 vs w530 vs t430 all i7 16 - 32g ram
and how much should i spend?
THANX

>>60948904
Yup. Picked up a T60p for 20 bucks from a guy in Virginia months ago, keep loving it. Also UXGA screen is fantastic and surprisingly bright for CCFL.

>Thinking about getting T61 NOS Nvidia motherboard from that guy on the thinkpad forums but it's 120 dollary doos.

should I do it? I could just throw a T7600 in for 64bit, but it's hotter, slower, etc.

>>60948904
Hell yeah.
But my current T60 is total project (not seen as my daily driver unless I get libreboot and needed parts to do so. Before that I would remove SVP, which I thought to be easy job but it really wasn't.)

Budget:
>$500 and below
Location:
>United States
Size:
>anything works, although a 15.6" is preferable
Performance:
>i7 @ 2.6GHz+, 8GB+ ram; also, long battery life
Other:
>ideally lightweight

>>60948964
Install quadcore CPU and get 8gb ram. That will keep you busy for a while

>14"
>good battery life under Linux
Guys what do you suggest?

So this might be /sqt/ material but whatever.

T9600 and P8600 have a FSB of 1066MHz, this means RAM will run at 1066MHz tops.

But if i upgraded it to a X9100 which has a 1600FSB that means RAM will run at 1600MHz?

>tfw you fell for the thinkpad meme
>tfw you fell for the linux meme
>tfw your ancient thinkpad running linux is faster than your friend's two year old laptop on windows 10

>>60949206
>felt for thinkpad meme
>felt for ssd meme
>felt for linux meme

I can boot and open any IDE in 15 seconds

does anyone here know where one can acquire the eDP to LVDS converter board for t430/t420 in the current year?
is it possible?

>>60949206
>tfw your ancient thinkpad
>assuming 10 years is considered ancient (i.e very old)
Just tell what you are rocking

>>60948190
wifi whitelist
unlocking BIOS capabilities
fully functional classic keyboard
price

>>60949515
don't, even if you get one you got only 10-20% chance it will work

>>60946078
extra usb ports

>>60949651
im so sick of this TN panel........... i love my t430s in every other way....

>>60949700
either accept shit screen or move to t440p/e6440

>>60929132
Any reason to not get a tablet version x230?

>>60949809
the tablets are fat, can only get 6-cell batteries, screen wobbles if in a bumpy environment, IPS screens suffer from image retention/burn in

>>60949060
T420/T430 with 9 cell battery

so after having made all these threads and studying every thinkpad for years what consensus have you reached on the best ThinkPad ever made?

>>60948964
>Nvidia
the housefire memes are real

just get an intel t61 off ebay with a busted screen or something and swap the components from that, you need the expresscard/cardbus/smartcard slot anyway because it uses a different connector from the one in the t60

>>60949949
Where to buy genuine lelnovo batteris while living in Yuropoor

>>60949617
>wifi whitelist
just gen an intel card
>unlocking BIOS capabilities
why, to overclock a fucking laptop?
>fully functional classic keyboard
xx20 keyboard is fully functional except for Fn+F12
>price
come on

>>60949993
amazon, ebay

>>60949993
I embraced the chinks and went with green cell battery. Actually breddy gud

>>60950020
how many cells and how many Wh is it?

>>60950048
6 cell, labelled 49Wh but OS reports 52Wh. Genuine Lenovo was 57Wh.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W530-15-6-034-500GB-Intel-Core-i7-3rd-Gen-2-6GHz-16GB-Notebo-/252995113229?

I bought this for $370. How bad did I get jewed?

>>60950112
seems like a fair price for quad-core i7, 16gb ram, 1920x1080 screen

needs an ssd though

>>60950186
I ordered:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT7DDIK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Just waiting for the laptop to arrive and then I'll swap out the HDD that comes with the laptop.

is $475 a good price for a used x250? i've been looking into a few thinkpads and it seems to be right up my alley

Quick question on what is considered "business class" -
I have been limping my x61 and x61 Tablet along, but they are at long overdue upgrade status. I have a shot at a Toshiba Portege M780-S7241, also a tablet with a i7-640M. The gent with it will sell it to me for a bill, as he wants a Toughbook, and I already have the SSD to put into it. Anyone with experience on the toshiba line, as the last Protege I used was a Pentium 3?

What's your guys opinions on the X201? I was recently going through a bunch of my stuff and found one.

>>60950769
Programmed obsolescence, at least on their crappy Satellite series.
t. Had a C855D with a AMD E-300. Sucked so much ass and after some time one of the hinges snapped, breaking the screen frame.

>>60950814
Some anons in here regard it as one of the comfiest in the X series

>>60950835
Yeah, I've heard co-workers recommend to stay away from the plastic Toshibas, but thois one is metal and aluminum... guess more research intot the frame and hinge will be needed, I just liked the Wacom screentouch

>>60950866
The metallic ones are decent, just avoid plastic ones like fucking plague, they're even worse than Edge series ThinkPads.

>>60949617
You must be retarded.
All of that is possible on every xx30.

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>>60929132
I just bought a X250 . It comes with a 16Gb SSD disk. What can I do with this disk? I plan to install Debian on it.

I though about installing / there, but Mathematica alone uses 10 Gb!

Any idea what is the best partition setup?

>>60950814
Swap the monitor with an IPS one from a Dell (?) and swap the pamlrest for an x200 to ditch the touchpad. Perfection.

>>60929132
What kind of ultrabay does the X300/X301 use, /tpg/? I want to replace my X230 with one as a long term sturdy thin and light that can be disposable, hardened and inconspicuous while still being able to run youtube videos and browsers with lots of tabs because of the 8 gigs of ram.

>>60951612
I don't think it's an ultrabay, just an unswappable DVD drive. You'll also be sorely disappointed in the CPU capabilities, those ULV Core 2 Duos have aged like milk. Best case scenario, you're looking at a third of the single-thread performance of your X230. Even a Yonah T60 will outperform it. Certainly won't be running lots of browser tabs even with 8GB of RAM.

>>60952084
Its a Option-bay 7mm. Not compatible with Ultrabay. You can install battery in there if you want to.
>You'll also be sorely disappointed in the CPU capabilities, those ULV Core 2 Duos have aged like milk.
Screw you faggot. Even Pentium 4-M is still fine. Don't spout lies.
>Certainly won't be running lots of browser tabs even with 8GB of RAM.
Yeah sure, because of nonfree JS.

>>60952140
He's running a full-voltage Ivy Bridge i5/i7 right now. Do you really think he won't notice the huge fucking drop from that to a ULV Core 2 Duo? I run a Core 2 Duo myself, but it's a full-voltage T9300, not the absolutely anemic shit the X300 and X301 used. The difference between this and the T2700 I was on before was visible in normal usage, and the SU9400 in the X301 is even slower than that.

>Yeah sure, because of nonfree JS.
Seeing as he cited wanting to watch youtube videos, I somehow doubt he planned on sticking to plaintext sites only.

>>60952197
This is why I want XX30 niggers to leave especially X230 niggers. They are disgrace that should be removed.
>Seeing as he cited wanting to watch youtube videos, I somehow doubt he planned on sticking to plaintext sites only.
I would recommend him to get used to using Links or midori and watching youtube videos via smplayer.
Slow cpu just means that things load slower. It does not make the machine crippled. Like a slow car can go successfully travel A to B. I see no harm on using those cpus.
If he is complaining that machine being slow, I'll regard him as a ADHD faggot.

>>60952275
is your time worth nothing? are you so poor you can't afford $100 more for a slightly better processor?

I won an auction for a x220, with i5 2540 (2.6ghz), 4GB, no hard, no ac adapter and no battery for $49. I found out later that this one has an IPS display. BAM! love it.

>>60952627
Atleast its Intel botnet free. I did see X301 for 50€, even thought I spend 45€ on a HP NC4010 for muh lulz. I'm just exploring the option here senpai, I do have X220 with 8gb ram and shiet that thing is fast compared to T7300. Tho, Pentium M start to get just a tiny bit too slow but you can still use it in all fairness.

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wew found an old shitty intel ssd

now I can try linux not on a vm

highlight of my week

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>be me
>(re)watching a movie on TV
>see this
Some years ago, I'd never notice of pic related.
Any clue on the model?

>>60952800
X30 or X20

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Why the fuck is the screen bezel so fuckibg hard to remove on my t430

>>60952891
what? mine's easy
(the part near the camera is the hardest one IIRC

>>60952891
It's a pain to remove. Be the year 1986 or 2017, it has always been a fucking pain in the ass while handling nerve of steel. Good grief.

>>60952913
I feel like I'm going to break it

>>60952800
>>60952800
That movie is from 1997 so it could be a 560

>>60949178
Anyone can confirm?

>>60952891
wtf? That's one of the easiest things you tard.

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>>60952734
All processors are botnet free when you remove them, retard. We can't all be as technologically incompetent as you, sorry.

>>60952140
some people actually do work, anon

>>60945789
>i can't do alt+left/right arrows

>>60953220
>using the least rare pepe
>saying someone a retard
Dumb frogposter
All thinkpads from the year 2008 (Nehalem architecture) which haves AMT/ME and vPro are not botnet free. These include XX30 niggers and XX70p computers (not sure on Dell lineup).
You can get libreboot via commandline if your system supports libreboot and you got all the necessary parts to do so. You can flash it, via extra equipment if your machine does not support it, and the same goes for coreboot (why go half way when you could go all the way).

So does a Pentium M have Intel ME and or Intel AMT? How about vPRO? Both no. Because there is no remote managing capabilities (other than PXE) it's botnet free computer in my book with Trisquel installed of course.
>>60953352
>retro thinkpad
>not having one the basic keys which have been seeon thinkpads for at least 15 years
Why?

>>60953483
Sorry you're too inept to use new hardware pajeet. You don't need coreboot or libreboot to stub Intel ME. All my machines have it removed without gimping compatibility. Enjoy your chinese cartoons.

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sometimes when I shutdown there's a quite audible *pop*

should I be concerned?

it didn't do this with Windows

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Can I safely use the 90w power adapter that came with my T510... on my T420s?

The T420s came with a 65w adapter.

What are the pros / cons of using the 90w charger?

Thanks!

>>60953580
yes

pros it will charge faster
cons the charger is fatter

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>>60953501
Yeah fuck you too. New hardware suck anyway. Only modern machine worth buying Librem line of laptops.

anyone got a x220 tlp config that they swear by?

>>60953519
If it comes from the speakers, it's just them shutting down abruptly. As far as I know, there's no need to worry.

can I take the bluetooth from a t420 and equip it to an x220t?
How? What does it look like?

>>60954083
yes

looks like this
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=thinkpad+bluetooth+module

you just remove the screw and pop it out then find the location on X220t and pop it in and put the screw back in

for the X220t it's underneath the palm rest, south of the WLAN/WWAN modules

for the T420 I'm assuming it would be underneath the palm rest as well

>>60954171
hey that was pretty easy
thanks

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>Budget
$200-$300
>Location
Murica
>Size
Whatever
>Performance
It will be used for classwork as I'm going to college on Fall and get a major on computer science. Aside from that I'd like to play some older games on it (stuff like Oblivion or New Vegas)

Is the top row (Esc, F1–F12 etc.) on x30 Thinkpads higher than the rest of the keyboard?

>>60954664
what do you mean by higher?

i've looked everywhere. My w520's key board works fine. but the touchpad and the nipple doesn't work. i've tried searching for fixes. i've downloaded the drivers none show up once installed. the touchpad isn't on the device list. worse the bios says they are on. Please help I don't want to have to take this somewhere to get it repaired

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>>60954674
On some pictures it looks like the rows aren't on the same level/at the same height.

>>60950001
>just gen an intel card
7260ac doesn't work in t430, unless you reflash bios with hardware spi flasher. In t420/x220 you remove whitelist via software.
>xx20 keyboard is fully functional except for Fn+F12
it's not. Three combinations doesn't work and the capslock light doesn't work. It's a pain in the ass.

>>60950900
*if you play with hardware spi flasher*
no thanks

>>60954574
I'd say a used T510 is a good pick. Mine only cost between $250-275 (I'm also a burger)

Could I get some reccomendations?
>Budget: 250 USD (~320 AUD)
>Location: Australia
>Size: ~14"
>Performance: Any i5 from the 2XXX series or newer should do, 2.5ghz or better, 4gb RAM minimum
Prefer newer i5s for better iGPU performance, don't want discrete because I want the battery to last more than 2 hours, plus probably wouldn't get decent ones in this price range
>Other requirements: At least one USB 3.0 port, 1366x768 or better

I'd also like to be able to get at least 6 hours of battery life out of it, even if I have to shell out for a battery upgrade afterwards.

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Soooo, how did you use the unused space in your ThinkPad(TM) expresscard dummy plug?
I've fitted SD>mSD adapter and small screwdriver if I have to ever disassembly my laptop outside my house. There is still some space on the other side, where I'll probably store micro 8GB flash drive with windows 10 installer and small bootable debian for emergencies.

>>60956293
or fuck it, I'll just stick a bootable microsd card in the adapter, because my EliteBook(TM) master race can boot straight from SD card.

Been using a T420 and T500 for several years now, but I'm thinking of biting the bullet and buying a T560 or 570 for everyday use. Are they as Linux-friendly and easy to play around with as the older models? How do the newer Latitudes compare?

>>60957189
Don't do it man. Just keep using your old machines. Nothing good comes from the newer machine other than battery life.

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Is there any significant difference in performance between Intel 3000 and Intel 4000 iGPU?

>>60956293
Been thinking in getting a USB. 3.0 adapter. But... So many bad reviews from Chinese shit overheating. More feeling like getting a dummy plastic one and fuck it.

>>60957355
I'd do that but I need more powerful hardware to do CAD and stuff for school. I still want to use Linux though, even if I have to dual-boot, which is why I asked about these specific lines.

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>>60957371
Yes, there's a huge difference. HD3000 is slower, but more importantly can't do DirectX 11 / OpenGL 4.0 / HLSL Shader model 5.0. Pretty much all modern games and many modern 3D productivity applications rely on these APIs (they were all a huge leap) so modern games will actually run pretty well on an HD4000 - even quite demanding stuff will work if you turn down settings because it's at least compatible. Pic related is The Witness which runs at 1366x768 at 40fps on medium which is pretty damn good. It can also run MGSV:TPP on lowest. HD3000 can basically not even boot these games. And stuff that still is compatible will run terribly. You're basically stuck with source engine games from 2007.

>>60953483
Intel ME is present on all Intel CPUs, regardless of the computer manufacturer.

>>60953501
All the neutralisation does currently is remove its networking capability, IME is still there is other respects.
The virtues of Libreboot lie in the ability to run Free Software from the bottom up, not just the removal of potentially harmful proprietary systems.

>>60942882
same happens to my x220t. browsing can get up to 60c

>>60957391
Don't bother. USB 3.0 controllers drain power like motherfuckers, are unreliable (devices disconnecting randomly, mainly due to insufficient power on express card slot), overheats, etc.

>>60957671
>Games
What if games isn't a priority?

>>60942882
Those are normal temps.
What's the room temp?

>>60956330
>EliteBook(TM) master race can boot straight from SD card
Thinkpad can do that as well.

>>60957829
x230. x220, t420 and t430 cannot.
Older ones indeed can (tested with x200s) but we don't talk about deprecated hardware, do we?

>>60957805
As I said, it goes for 3d productivity applications as well, Marmoset toolbag requires DX11, zBrush is massively helped by it. It's futureproofing really - any graphics card pre OpenGL 4.0 is insufficient nowadays, you may not need it now but there could easily be a point in the future where you find the HD3000's causing whatever pain in the arse you've encountered.

>>60957962
Then I should get X230?

>>60957709
>Intel ME is present on all Intel CPUs, regardless of the computer manufacturer.
If I were to use a laptop without Intel ME, would Pentium-M and Pentium-4M powered laptops safe from this issue, which I greatly assume that they are because intel wasn't too keen on these kind of features back in the day. My other question would that, is it safe to use such old hardware? Meaning that there might be some vulnerabilities just waiting for shit to hit the fan eventually.
Again I would assume that there is no malicious code in this machines' BIOS that could harm my opsec.

>>60957829
>>60957866
It's a bit of shame because sdcard slots tend to work quite nicely on GNU/Linux otherwise. Oh well, those sdcard usb adapters are cheap and should do the trick.

>>60958170
>those sdcard usb adapters are cheap and should do the trick.
My goal was to hide bootable sd card into the expresscard plug, so it's always there just in case my wangblows refuses to boot. I don't want to carry extra bigass usb card reader outside of laptop. If I'd want to use USB drive I'd use my USB 3.0 flash drive I got on my keys.

>>60957866
>x230. x220, t420 and t430 cannot
Are you talking about the SD card slot?
or the ExpressCard?
Both can boot, but I think you need to patch the BIOS or use libreboot.
>>60958170
>sdcard usb adapters are cheap and should do the trick.
What about the speed?

>>60958272
>Both can boot, but I think you need to patch the BIOS or use libreboot.
?????????????
are you seriously implying I'm gonna play with installing shitboot just to later use windows?
"Modded" BIOS (aka. Oleh's bios) can't do that, because this reader is on PCIe bus instead of USB. It has to be implemented in BIOS to recognize PCIe devices as bootable.
Also libreboot on these models? what?
x220/x230/t420/t430 CAN'T boot from sd card slot. Period.
Expresscard is bootable if you use real SATA controller in it. If you use EC<>SD adapter it won't be bootable for sure.
Also it still misses the point. This small bracket: >>60956293
won't hold any usb device in it.

>>60958077
I'm very, very happy with my X230. Even before I got an eGPU it could pretty much do everything I wanted. Runs After Effects, Photoshop, Agisoft Photoscan - pretty much everything like a dream with the i7 model and lots of ram. It's my only computer and it does everything I need. I only want to downgrade to an X301 because I'm going to put my desktop back together for the workloads I'm running into and it's then surplus to requirements.

>>60958396
Do you carry it around or use it as a stationary machine?

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>>60958379
>Expresscard is bootable if you use real SATA controller in it
Or if you use ExpressCard SSD.
>won't hold any usb device in it
Maybe something like this would fit?

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>>60958494
>Or if you use ExpressCard SSD.
No. Any of this model will not boot from EC, even if you use one of these rare ssds. It has to be REAL SATA controller, eg. HP p400i via eGPU adapter. And I was never really able to boot from SAS drives in my old x230, it was just printing config menu in bios.

>>60937973
>wait for Thinkpad Retro this fall?
remind me again what makes you think it's coming this fall?

>>60938218
>Is this a big deal that will get worse over time?
it probably will if you're shoveling your laptop in and out of a tightly packed bag all the time

I would return it if you bought it without knowledge of this damage.

>>60958420
Both, I have a dock with keyboard, mouse, phone, printer, graphics tablet and controller plugged in. I press one button and go. (If I have eGPU plugged in I have to disable it from the same eject menu, then reenable my HD4000 from device manager)

It's basically the best of all worlds. The laptop itself is only a little thicker than 2cm and I have the IPS so usability is really high with just the laptop, when I plug it in and have the eGPU on it's then absolutely powerful enough to play all the latest vidya at 1440p 60fps and get CGI work done. Just with the HD4000 alone I can still play new games on absolute lowest, and indie titles on medium.

Now I should be satisfied with it, but I'm going to need more raw multithread CPU power in the near future, that's why I want to upgrade. Otherwise this would do me for a few years until the prices of quad core TB3 laptops (Like the Dell 5480) come down. In total I paid £225 for the X230 after selling my X220 for £175, my eGPU dock was €70 and the GPU I had already. Basically the price/performance is INSANE but it's probably only valid for another two or three years before it's insufficient as a performance machine. It should already be insufficient, but intel have been really shitty at updating their mobile chips. It took until skylake before intel's gimped 15w mobile chips started catching up with their 35w ivy bridge designs.

>>60943112
they're better than the non tablet versions
at least they don't have the eye cancer screen

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Do I look qt?

Is this IPS or not?

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/New-LG-Philips-LP125WH2-SL-T1-Laptop-Screen-12-5-LED-BACKLIT-HD-Compatible-/380919296034?hash=item58b08f3022:g:HR8AAOSwstxVSeYd

>>60959347
https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/screen-part-number/LP125WH2(SL)(T1)/

this says it is

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>>60959187
>dock with keyboard, mouse, phone
What's the dock? and phone?
>£225
So 300$ is the maximum for X230?

What about throttling/ heating issues? and bad battery life because of 3rd gen CPU?
Also what about the keyboard?

I already have T420 as stationary machine but I need something more portable.
At most I'd use it to run VM to play some games, nothing fancy (RA2,C&C,etc), PS for dank meme, and watching chinese cartoon.
So I was thinking maybe I don't need to spend extra $$$ on something That I won't utilize properly and spend that money on SSD/RAM.

How do you know the screen is IPS?
Anything more than 1336x768?
>>60959265
Why ask when you know the answer?
>the mole is doing things to my body.

>>60929132
fucking poorfags
buy a macbook

>>60959968
you first, thinktard
enjoy your 1366x768 TN panels LMAO

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>>60959977
I will

u mad?

>>60960050
Nope. Enjoy eating shit though

>>60960064
enjoy getting pozzed

>>60956293
Just finished.
Fitted:
>mSD>SD adapter
>16GB bootable mSD card with 8GB Debian install with all drivers installed and 8GB partition with Windows 10 installer media + all drivers
>2GB bootable mSD card with debian installer
>victorinox 4-head screwdriver
>mSIM to SIM adapter
>mUSB to USB OTG plug

>>60960299
Pic?
also
>all drivers installed
How do you do that?

>>60960486
Do what?
I installed debian on sd card, booted from it and downloaded all shit I need, firmware-iwlwifi and hspa+ modem drivers for example.

>>60960570
>downloaded all shit I need
This.
I mean did you download drivers that you might not need?

>>60950231

I'd be very happy with that setup. gr8j0bm8

A friend of my father gave him a Lenovo 590 to install a cracked program. Is it a good notebook?
What are the differences between that and a thinkpad?

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Anyone have a pic of what this should look like (t430 backlight)? The middle button broke off and I'm afraid I have to buy a whole new keyboard instead of just the button

is £65 reasonable for a t530i?

Is there a good ac card for the x220 with free drivers?

>>60961839
Yes but you have to use the modded BIOS.

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girlfriend needs a new laptop since her shitty dell touchscreen notebook took a fat dump. I have a T460s from school that I enjoy quite a bit, so I'm thinking of getting her a cheaper stinkpad. She doesn't need it for anything too crazy, just photoshop + internet basically. Any recommendations? I was thinking T430 or something similar with a fat SSD and some ram thrown in might be good.

>>60961884

Obviously.
Doesn't tell me what card to get though...

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>there will never be a T60 tier comfyPad again

>>60962154
I spy 1024x768. Upgrade your T60 anon.

>>60930462
if you are concerned about security passwords are much better that biometrics

people i got a x220, its over 106 where im at and i dont have AC.

my x220 with no battery is very very hot and my 65w power supply is burning. what the fuck can i do to make this better?

OS seems to have zero effect on power consumption, tried W7 with power management reduced to lowest settings and Linux and this thing is fucking burning.

>>60961924
Fuck I'm tired, totally forgot
>Budget:
$800 or less for laptop, SSD, etc. needed to make it fit performance reqs.
>Location:
US
>Size:
Not too picky.
>Performance:
Can run photoshop, word processor, and surf the NET with relative ease.
>Other requirements:
would like to purchase new if possible.

>>60957709
No, it stubs out everything but the init code which is necessary to stop the chip from shutting itself down. Even Libreboot is going to do this instead of removing it on SandyBridge, because they haven't been able to fully RE the x220.

>>60955170
Sorry pajeet, not everyone "plays" with their electronics. Some of us do work.

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>>60959977
>1366x768 TN panels

>>60962188
love this, knew this exact comment as coming
>uhh just don't use the fingerprint reader lol

fuck you

die freetards

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How's the eGPU with X220/X230 on Linux?

>>60951073
Cache

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>>60959977
>anything except 4:3 UXGA
lel

>>60945131
Lurk more. T430 - dedicated graphics if you want, easy to find one with for $150-250.

Make sure to get one with the 1600x900 screen, or prepared to do the upgrade...

>>60962202
The NET?

>>60963122
>anything except 16:10 WUXGA

>>60963740
the internet, the thing we're using right now

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>>60962771
>>>60951073 (You)

You mean like this
https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/using-lvms-new-cache-feature/
?

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/sys/6143151461.html
>T420
>$350
man screw my area of florida. this is as bad as the old guy that wanted $8000 for his geo metro with 200,000 miles on it.

>>60961793
Specs? Sounds reasonable but just in case

>>60954574
T430

>>60965568
4gb ram, 1600x1900, i3-2370M

>>60965451
How about that guy who wants $500 for a FlexView T43p loaded with """licensed""' software from the same era?
Or was it a T61p? I can't remember.

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>>60929132

Is this computer good for playing source engine games like csgo?

ThinkPad E550

i7-5500U 2.40GHz
Radeon R7 M265
8GB RAM

Has anyone here with a T4x ever gotten wifi working under Windows 2000? I already installed the drivers for the wifi but I don't see any program to actually let me select a network, which for Windows 2000 came with your wifi card drivers since Windows didn't allow you to natively till XP.

>>60965634
>ULV CPU
>low end mobile AMD graphics

no

>>60965617
Does it have a dGPU? If not, go for it anyways, just curious.

>>60965634
Source Engine games run even on a toaster, get something else for less shekels.

I know the x220/x230 IPS panels have better viewing angels, but do they still give you eye strain after a few minutes?

>>60965683
pretty sure it doesn't

Also new thread:
>>60965742
>>60965742
>>60965742
Remember not to respond to shills, take their advice with a grain of salt; after all, all the laptops we discuss have their pros and cons.

>>60965683

Is the computer itself ok? It seems alot of people hate the e series for some reason.

>>60965784
Their build quality is bad compared to other series such as X, T, and maybe even the defunct Z and R series. And they usually are lower specced.
And legend has it that some models just died for no apparent reason. Although that happens to all of the consumer lines...