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/wt/ - Watch Thread

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This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.

>Required Viewings For Newbies:
https://youtu.be/_2J5phyd9J4


>Strap Guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Previous thread:
>>60887900
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>>60903817
I'm afraid my vintage Aquadive is too big for my wrist.
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2nd or 3rd or some shit for anons thinking "fac et aliquid operis, ut semper te diabolus inveniat occupatum." is watch related.
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Everyone knows that watches aren't engineered. They evolved over the course of billions of years, from the random collision of quartz, stainless steel, glass etc.
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>>60903940
Interdasting.
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what am I missing /wt/?
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>>60904004
A good watch :^)
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Would you say this is worth the price ontario man?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/KING-SEIKO-KS-5626-7113-HI-BEAT-Automatic-Working-Beautiful-Silver-Japan-/302347542883?hash=item4665516163:g:jG8AAOSw8GtZPph2#viTabs_0
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>>60904004
A working camera.
And save up and get something worth more than $150.
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>>60904004
Taste.
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>>60904004
Hey thats a nice design on the top right, what a lovely automatic wat-

oh wait :)
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>>60904052
I mean it's a decent price.
Personally, I'd save up for something better. I don't love it.

If you can afford to buy an almost $600 watch, you can def save up for something double that in a decent time frame.
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>>60904075
>>60904072
>>60904059
>>60904010
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>>60904052
Absolutely not because that is a Suwa Seikosha produced 56xx King Seiko and the 56xx movement is both inferior in general to the Daini Seikosha produced 52xx and also has a plastic gear in the quickset mechanism for the day and date which tends to shrink due to age (rather than wear) and eventually crack, causing the quickset to fail.

Unfortunately, this means eventually its likely that every single 56xx movement with a date or day/date complication is very likely to have the quickset for it eventually fail.

If you want a mid 1970's high grade Seiko automatic I would look for King Seiko 5245, King Seiko 5246 and King Seiko 5256 models. The King Seiko I post here is a 1975 5256-8010, incidentally.
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>>60904110
What'd you expect? Honestly.
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>>60904052
>>60904111
Also, depending on your risk tolerance you may also want to consider taking a look at Yahoo! Japan Auctions using a proxy bidding service (I use Buyee) as you can often find much better deals over there than on eBay. Just keep in mind that Y! JP has very little buyer protections, especially for a gaijin, and so you should consider it caveat emptor.
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>>60904111
Are the 45gs worth looking at?
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>>60904004
some chink watches
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>>60904111
I want a hi beat though. Is that attainable without the plastic gear?
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>>60904360
Lord marvel 36000
Or the 45 if seikoman blesses them (I want his opinion those)
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>>60904360
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Can anyone id this watch for me?
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/fa/
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Girlfriends watch
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>>60904383
I already commented on this the other day dont rub it in
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>>60904424
lmao nigga your girlfriend porky
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>>60904484
:^)
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>>60904111
>>60904274
>>60904375
Is this what you mean by 45GS??

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/VINTAGE-KING-SEIKO-45-7000-MANUAL-WINDING-CIRCA-1968-/302349280023?hash=item46656be317:g:smAAAOSwvjdZQMHY
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>>60904407
T841024, by 维杰豪兹 or Vager Hauers depending on how you feel like spelling it.
(https://world.tmall.com/item/543875952014.htm?spm=a312a.7700718.1998025129.5.q48Iam)

They also make a moonphase, and some other decent-looking ones. They use either Miyota, ETA, or Seagull movements.
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>>60904407
how are you supposed to read that?
>ah yes, is chink minus chong
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are battery powered watches worth it? I'm thinking about getting a Swatch Random Ghost, or a Swatch Jellyfish (yeah, just because I like their style). Also, how durable might the outsides of a plastic """"""vintage""""" watch be?
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>>60904584
The large subdial is essentially a 24-hour subdial, based on the 12 periods that were used in classical chinese timekeeping, 2 hours per period. The symbols are the same as the zodiac, since both of those, as well as their cardinal directions, were all based off the orbit of Jupiter.
The small subdial is seconds, the main hands are for hours and minutes. Not that you even need numbers to figure out the time, but the number markings on the seconds subdial are the same as Japanese.
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How long am I expected to keep my SARB033 going without maintenance work?

Some people say 5 years, but some people say 15 years?
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>>60904826
its a fucking 300 dollar watch.. who gives a fuck? You gonna go pay someone 150 dollars to service a 300 dollar watch? buy a new 6r15 in 10 years and replace the movement.
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>>60904875
>$0
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>>60904905
Thier facebook says they do monthly giveaways, but it's only been up for a few months.
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>>60904875
You're still getting ripped off as far as the price, but that is a legitimate business strategy.
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>>60904934
The Jet Black 2 Watch looks pretty decent for a guy that literally doesn't own a watch.
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>>60904941
That one as well as a number of the others on the website are straight off of alibaba/aliexpress. If you want chinkshit, you should at least try to get it through as few middlemen as possible.
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>>60904969
Googling further the CEO did an AMA on reddit. Someone called him out on this as well.
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>>60905011
lmao, so is like DW reselling chinkshit at premium prices
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>>60904497
This autism
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>>60905011
>shoop the stock photo to move the minute hand
>forget to shoop the seconds hand back in

kek
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>>60905049
Do you think I'm kidding? That is a loaf of an arm
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>>60905029
I'd say they put in a bit less effort than DW, but the general idea is the same. They are also going for smaller margins on each transaction, but seem to be spending less on marketing.
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>>60904985
>>60905011
Looks like the guys calling him out on reddit are right, buying cheap shit and making a profit off shipping.
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Has anyone been to TGV's facebook group? It's pretty kek worthy.

>Guys which Sitenshit or Squale GMT Master homage should I buy?
>Guys my Orient BambinoRayShitter broke when i bumped my arm into thin air what should I do?
>Guys I bought this totally legit Submariner for $4500 with no papers, I have a suspicion it may be fake :(
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>>60905120
>buying a rolex sub with no papers
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>Nomos on eBay for suspiciously low price
>inquire about service history etc
>watch runs fine
>prod deeper
>gains about 35 seconds per day

Runs fine
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Where the fuck is Nineball at these days
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I have $650 to buy a watch what do I buy guys.
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>>60905184

Skx and save the rest for something worth handing down to your kid one day.

>>60905168

Why, so he can shill GS?
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>>60905208
>having children
lmao@your life drone
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>>60905184
https://www.amazon.com/Tissot-Couturier-Automatic-Chronograph-T035-627-16-031-00/dp/B0029N6K4G/ref=sr_1_17?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1497489820&sr=1-17&nodeID=6358539011&psd=1&keywords=tissot+couturier
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>>60904360
Hi-Beat as in 36,000 bph? Back in the 1970's Seiko used the Hi-Beat terminology for both 28,800bph automatics and 36,000bph movements.

The Daini Seikosha produced 45xx Grand Seiko and King Seiko models (all 45xx movement GS and KS models were produced by Daini Seikosha using the same movement with the only changes being date vs no-date and level of adjustment) are amongst the most inherently accurate series produced mechanical movements designed and manufactured in the pre-quartz era.

Remember that Daini Seikosha produced 45GS models are the ones that BTFO'd the Swiss and ended the Swiss Chronometer trials, as well as being one of only two production watches EVER to achieve Astronomical Observatory Chronometer certification.

That being said, the 45xx movement was designed for accuracy above all else, and history has shown that these movements have some excess wear issues and also need frequent and punctual servicing to be kept at their best. Buying one today involves a readiness to accept that it will likely eventually need the occasional donor movement to keep it running at its best.

The Lord Marvel 5740C, on the other hand, was produced by Suwa Seikosha and is probably the best movement design by Suwa in the pre-quartz period as it doesn't have any of the inherent flaws that have tended to marr their other movements. They were also produced over a long period and thus can typically be found at decent prices and there are no worries of parts availability ever becoming an issue.

On the other hand, the 5740C lacks hacking, which is really a shame in such a fundamentally sound and highly accurate watch. Just as an example of how good the design is, my local watchmaker (who has worked on hundreds of different movements over the years) was blown away by it and said it was one of the most accurate movements he's ever seen.
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>>60905184
2-3 fake subs.
Sell them to people on the TVG facebook page, and then buy yourself something in the 10k+ range.
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Thoughts?
I'm looking for a watch that is translucent peach color, I want to give it the "illusion" that I'm not wearing a watch band, but just have the watch face on my wrist.
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Mail day.

Can anyone translate that ?
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>>60905304
What the fuck
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>>60905332
It says thank you for not buying a vostok.
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>>60905349
this is to mod a vostok...
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I have the following. From most worn to least worn.

Grand Seiko SBGT037
Nomos Metro Gangreserve
Tudor North Flag
Omega Speedmaster Professional Sapphire
Casio G-Shock GW5600J-1
Seiko SKX013

I can give you my opinions on them if you're considering a purchase of any one of those models.
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>>60905355
it says thank you for buying a shitter you are welcome.
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>>60905267
Yes I meant 36,000 thank you. So the Lord Marvel does NOT have the flaw of needing heavy servicing? I am trying to find one quick as I am going to Toronto soon and want him (we're talking about the same person) to service it if I can get it before then.
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>>60905364
honest opinions on Nomos as a brand and the North flag. Please address these points:

I have never seen a Nomos in person but in photos they look cheap to me. How do they feel in person and how satisfied with it are you?


The north flag has a very interseting design ... some hate it some love it. What has been your experience with normies & that watch (if any, no one usually cares about watches)


Nice collection, close to my heart.
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>>60904111
bph?
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>>60905364
Redpill me on the Metro.

It strikes me as a great business casual watch for the office, very legible but also interesting enough dial to be pleasant to look at.

Does it wear huge?
How's the finishing? Accuracy?
Would you wear it more often if it was automatic?
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>>60904111
$305 buy it now used cocktail time on ebay right now. flawless.

i'd snap it up fags, but i'm saving for a speedy.
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>>60905455
Beats per hour. How many times it ticks per hour.
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>>60905406
No, the Lord Marvel is apparently very reliable and has no inherent vices, and shouldn't need any more servicing than every ~5 years. It's probably Suwa's best movement design in that era, honestly.

You can get examples in extremely good condition for ~$500, slightly less for non-linen dial versions. And that watchmaker in Toronto absolutely raves about them.
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>>60904111
Hi, I need your exclusive advice on Speedies. You've given me precious advice on Speedmasters, and movements (Lemania, 3570.50), and models, MKII vs Pro.

Please do let me know when you're in.
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>>60905494
now this is the infamous 36000bph?
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>>60905406
I can say that my LM (>>60904383) was running very accurately despite not being serviced in who knows how many years. I've since gotten it serviced of course.
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>>60905532
Did you cop off ebay?
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>>60905511
I'm here, what do you wanna ask?
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>>60905556
Yahoo auctions, actually.
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>>60905430

The steel cases of the Nomos are definitely not worthy of a watch in the price range. It does feel cheap.

The rest of the watch however is lovely. The movement is beautiful and pretty accurate. the dial, hands and strap are excellent.

The model I have is super comfortable and goes well with just about everything. It. Wears larger than it is. It's 37mm but looks like 40.

FYI on the Nomos, it does not have a quick date set feature. It's a pain to advance the date if you haven't worn it in a week or two. You have to move back and forth between 9 and 1.

With the North Flag Tudor really went all in with the concept of a tool watch. It's entirely utilitarian. Not meant to be classic like the Rolex Explorer.

It's built tough, it looks tough. It's not a dress watch. It's extremely legible, which I love.
The movement isn't pretty, but it's extremely accurate. Their in house movement does not fuck around. Like the Nomos, it has a 70 hour power reserve, which is a god send.

The quick date change feature is also handy.

I wish Tudor had made it in 38mm, but the sharp angles on it help it look smaller.

Normies seem to like my Tudor.

It's a thick watch though.
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>>60905364
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the finishing of the quartz GS model, the Nomos, the Tudor and the Omega.

I've heard that the quartz GS models aren't finished to the same standards as the mechanical and spring drive models. I'm also curious how the Omega compares to the rest because all the modern Omega's I've handled in person have been shockingly poorly finished for their pricepoint. Does the MOTFM at least hold up to its pricepoint?
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>>60905572
Does the date on the nomos turn over exactly at midnight?
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>>60905465

See >>60905572

I think the Nomos Metro Gangreserve is overpriced by $500 or so. You shouldn't pay full price far it.

The power reserve on it is so long that it doesn't bother me that it's a hand wound.

I wish all watches had a 3 day minimum. It's a great feature.
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>>60905572
Nevermind the Nomos then, as you've just covered it.
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>>60905560
well I love the Mk11. I think I've chosen the pro however, your recommendation to be exact 3570.50.

for an excellent one, how much can I expect to spend (for a good deal, being patient and waiting)?
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>>60905596

No, a little after midnight
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>>60905600
I was going to buy a nomos Zurich. it's too large.

I don't like any other nomos models.
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Nomos doesnt quick set date what the FUCK
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>>60905586

The finishing on my quartz GS shits all over the other watches.

I'm not exaggerating. This terrible photo doesn't do it justice.

The quality of the Speedmasters strap is extremely underwhelming. It scratches like a $50 chinese watch. The case is fine though.

The Nomos has a cheap feeling case. The dial and hands are good though.

The Tudor has a very well made casing and strap. The strap feels just like a Rolex strap.
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>>60905680
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>>60905680
I'm underwhelmed by my tudor's finish, but I love the detail of the indices/dial, and comfort, looks overall

is the speedy bracelet really garbage??
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>>60905680
Yeah, that's pretty consistent with what I expected to hear. I handled a $4,000 Aqua Terra up close and was absolutely shocked at how cheap it felt in terms of case/dial/hands and especially bracelet finishing. The finishing was literally and unironically inferior to my Seiko Brightz SDGM003.

I've handled a Pelagos up close and found the finishing to be quite good, but GS is obviously a whole different story given the absurd amount of labour Seiko lavishes on ~5,000 watches a year.
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>>60905750
I've heard omegas (some) have abysmal finish for the money :/
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>>60905710
>>60905750


The clasp basically gets a scratch every time I wear it, and that's with regular office wear.

It's so bad that I've stopped wearing it because I fear that it'll get so bad no one would want to buy it in the future.

Meanwhile I wear my GS almost every day and it still looks like it just came out of the factory. Not one single scratch on the clasp, or anywhere else.
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>>60905304
Why not just get a see-through one? You're probably not going to be able to get your skin tone.
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>>60903817
I always thought The Beast was the most perfect blend of audacious style, class, and oustanding engineering.

I love this watch more than any other.
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>>60904532
Yes, though I though there were some daini gs-branded watches (with medallion and everything) with that movement, including the vfa watches.
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>>60906024
taka orda prs >>60905605
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Hey anon who ordered a GMT117USA, check in
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>>60905049
Damage control :^)
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>>60905605
I don't know the used market for the MOTFM that well but I'll poke my head around a few places and let you know what I see when I have a chance.
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>>60904407
Reminded me of this chink watch I have been eyeing. Charming 35mm hand wind.
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Seiko Lord Marvel or vintage Omega Seamaster?
How much different in quality are they? Is the Omega worth the price?
Should i just buy a LM and save money to do something else beside watches?
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>>60906667
Why not both?
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>>60906688
Because i'm a poorfag and can only afford one right now
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>>60906714
Research into both of them then. Find out about the movements and get whichever appeals to you more in the end (also look out for a good deal).
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>>60906714
How about to stop your life then?
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>>60906574
you're really nice and knowledgeable. have you ever thought of making a career with your breadth of knowledge re watches?? maybe a boutique? micro brand?
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>>60905560
how many liters is a kilometer? can you meme watch tell me?
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>>60904407
>>60904565
I ordered one. Will post pictures when it arrives.
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I am wondering if you guys might know where I can find a list of Seiko models made by the Daini branch. I can of course just look at the lightning bolt and see the difference, but that's kind of a pain in the ass to sort through each watch one by one, especially when using a proxy service.
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>>60907430
https://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=Category:Suwa_Seikosha_calibres

https://www.watch-wiki.net/index.php?title=Category:Daini_Seikosha_calibres

Start here.
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Are there anymore websites like KeepTheTime? Not like Chrono24 where they're listing for different vendors, I want something reputable and trusted like KeepTheTime who sells the watches themselves.
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>>60907472
Long island watch
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>>60903956
Are ICs for quartzes really that hard to replace? The main draw of mechanicals is that they can be fixed and made to run, theoretically, hundreds of years. But, really, you need specialized tools and machines to fix them. I think the difficulty of replacing them is as hard as with ICs.

pic for attention
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>>60905560
>>60905560
I love that watch <3

will you keep it?
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Aw fuck yes. Just in time to accompany me to AT
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>>60907961
There's gonna be some high quality fapping
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>>60907536
Thanks that's very helpful. A lot of the cheap Seikos and Orients are kind of ugly though.
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>>60908150
Nips are shit at aesthetics.
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Anyone know of a good Rolex Submariner style watch at $1500 or so in budget?

Or should I keep saving up for a Rolex (or an Omega) down the road?
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>>60908378
Only get a vintage Omega.
As for the Rolex, if you want a Rolex and buy a substitute, you'll still want the Rolex, but be further away from it.

I say save up.
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>>60908427

What's a good way to buy a vintage piece and know it's legit? eBay okay? Or is Watchrecon a reliable site for legit sellers?
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>>60908496
>What's a good way to buy a vintage piece and know it's legit?

Lots of research, enough to be able to spot a frankenwatch, or whatever other signs to look out for.
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>>60908496
>>60908506
Pretty much this.
I have 4 vintages takes a while before you're confidant with your purchase. But I highly recommend it. Vintages bring something different to the table. In my opinion, more interesting than a new watch in a lot of cases.

Another issue is finding a good vintage watchmaker. More research.

You'll have something special though.

My 5th will be a Omega Seamaster, but I have no need for it yet, down the line though.
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>>60908544
>Another issue is finding a good vintage watchmaker. More research.

What does that mean? I'm curious
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Sorry for blur, only photo I have on my phone, also have an Aquaracer.
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>>60908656
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>>60908599
Exactly how it sounds. You don't want just anyone to work on an old watch.
Some know more than others, have the right parts or know where to get them, stuff like that.

If you have a Hamilton from the 30s a lot of watchmakers might have never even worked on one before.

Some watchmakers won't even take some vintages. Accutron's for example are one of the coolest watches out there, but real hard to get someone that knows their shit.

You just have to do your research online, email, and call a lot. Find the right guy for the watch.
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>>60908656
>Yachtmaster

My condolences.
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>>60908675

it's a beautiful watch, one of the nicer Rolex's. Not too flashy, just nice and clean. The platinum bezel looks exceptionally nice when it's in the light.
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Anyone knows a watch that looks like the Timex Weekender, is in a similar price range (~50€) but is not so fucking loud?

I would go for the Weekender Chrono or Fairfield but I'd rather get a 38mm watch since I have the wrists of a 12 year old girl.
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>>60908671

How long does that process take?

How about something like fixing an old Rolex, Omega or a Grand Seiko? They should be fairly easy to get someone who knows how to service those vintages, right?
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heading out of town for a long weekend of awkward muffled sex in some rando's spare bedroom with my gf who just rolled her ankle the other day and can barely walk. i need to start traveling to different timezones to actually use the other hour hand.
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>mechanical (hand-wound or automatic + handwound)
>cheap
>non-shitter

I need all three.
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>>60908966
Define "cheap".
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>>60908966
too vague. What genre of watch?
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>>60908336
Well, the non Japs within the cheap price range are ugly as well. Aerotimer or something in the Long Island's listing.
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>>60909034
$100-200

>>60909057
Any. Dress, divers, pilots...
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>>60908791
>vintage grand seiko
kekle mein shekels
Since even Seiko can't/won't repair vintage gs, you're stuck with the Japanese (and perhaps Koreans and Taiwanese but I'm not sure on their trustworthiness) watchmakers that can a. service them and b. actually have the parts left. It's Japancentric, since gs didn't make it far from Japan the last time they were being made. If you're not around there, I wouldn't recommend even looking into old gs until you know more about what you're doing.

Vintage rolex and omega should be old hat to any decent watchmaker worth their salt. It depends on condition however, and whether or not replacement parts are required and can be sourced and if not (worse case scenario) they have to be custom made. It can get real expensive if you haven't done the right research.
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>>60909140
>Since even Seiko can't/won't repair vintage gs

That's a shock to learn.
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>>60906139
Can you put a leather strap on that?
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I'm literally gagging from the disgusting crusty watches they bring me. I lost my appetite, this job can be a nightmare sometimes with all the filthy subhumans finding their way to the store.

I should have refused service.
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>>60905355
Post pictures of the mod process.
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>>60903817
Anyone here into Elgin watches? I'm going to tear these guys apart once I have the tools for it.
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>>60909097
But the expensive Japs tend to look ugly too
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Anybody else find the Corum Golden Bridge a beautiful watch? It just looks strange in pictures but it looks great on the wrist.
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>>60904424
Post tits.
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which strap fits best?
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>>60910142
NATO but not in that colour m8
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>>60910142
The jubilee of course.
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>>60909846
Be sure to post pics when you do. Don't fuck it up.
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>>60908788
Citizen BM8180
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>>60905163
Could just be magnetized, in which case it might still be a deal. Depends on if you want to take that risk.
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>>60910167
>Be sure to post pics when you do.
Will do.
>Don't fuck it up.
No promises there.
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>>60905680
>>60905701
>want to show off finish
>take photo of watch without cleaning it off, smudges and hairs abound
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>>60910150
i only have a 18mm black nato and dont like the way it fits. will soon buy 20mm should i go for black or grey?
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>>60910371
Consider Khaki. But othwerwise Black.
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>>60909944
Yeah my head keeps telling me to get a sarb because they are such a solid purchase for the price. They have such good finishing and the movements are pretty reliable. But i just don't like them for some reason. They just don't tug at my heart strings so to speak. Everything about it makes sense. The SARB 033 is the next watch i should buy... but I just can't ring myself to do it.... I just don't want it.....
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>>60910371
get eulit double weave raf band instead of a nato.
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how did i do?
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>>60908815
Watch looks way too big for your wrist.
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>>60910552
what the fuk is that
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>>60910552
What the fuck is that horror?
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>>60905332
it is in ukrainian. it says that indicating a zip code in the right place will enable the postal service to deliver it faster
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>>60910552
looks fine
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>>60909413
To be fair, rolex will generally only service shit that's up to 25 years old (have parts available etc.,), though this varies from center to center, like you take a 30 year old watch to one place and they say "sorry no parts left" and another region still can somehow service shit going back 35 years. It's not a hard rule, but the official rolex service centers can obtain spare parts reliably only going back say 25 years only depending on the model and where you ask. Really vintage rolex going back to the 50s and earlier: not a chance, it's independents only.

Rolex doesn't give a shit about vintage, and they will not warn you that if say you brought in for service a double red sea dweller you inherited, the center might have to change the dial, crown, bracelet, crystal etc.,etc., and that in consenting to this overhaul you will have just shaved off at least $80,000 off the value of that collectable watch. Shit like this has happened because morons didn't do their research before acting.

Omega has started a program like Zenith (and Patek and others) that's for the restoration of any Omega timepiece ever made. But considering the base price for such a service is like $2k and that it only shoots right up from there depending on what needs doing, anyone taking a common vintage Omega for "official" service is a moron and the price of service will outweigh the value of the watch and an independent would be the better choice. But hey at least the option is there unlike Rolex and Seiko.
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>Jewelers on time
>on time

Do these guys deliver Rolexes to your door or something?
"Under 30 minutes or your Rolex is free!"

What a stupid fucking name.
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xth for best watch
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>>60910603
>>60910606
certina ds multi-8...i guess no anadigi love. the ds-1 automatic i have is jice but this one is so much more useful
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Could somebody recommend a 20mm jubilee with straight end links? I bought one from China, and it's surprisingly high quality, but the end links raise ever so slightly over my watches lugs.
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>>60909413
>>60910651
Also though Seiko will not repair vintage GS, they have been known to refer inquirers to competent independent watchmakers that are up to the task. This is only in Japan, obviously.

I read that it's something with Japanese consumer and corporate culture that's a "out with the old, in with the new - buy the new model, fuck the old one" kinda thing. Dunno if it was true or still is, but it's not conducive to the horology scene where people buy expensive watches with the aim of holding onto them for a long time and passing them onto their progeny. This sentiment is reflected in the fact that current Seiko policy states that they only guarantee 10 years worth of parts after any given GS model is discontinued, whereas Rolex, Omega and other Swiss stalwarts guarantee 20 or more (25?30? Can't remember).

Perhaps Seiko has changed this policy to reflect the market they're trying to push GS in? And though I remember hearing that after the controversy that amounted to collectors making a big stink about this whole "only a paltry 10 years" fact became more wildly known, Seiko came out with a feeble attempt at damage control to say "um ah er, we're changing it to 20 years!!!", nevertheless the official documentation still stated 10 years. (might not have even been Seiko HQ, but like Seiko USA or something.)

Perhaps now that GS is (nominally) independent from Seiko, they have a new policy for posterity parts more in line with those with whom they wish to compete.
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>>60910662
>ubuntu
>g-shock
>shitty knife

Underage detected.
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>>60910704
Hell, even one with curved end links so long as they aren't solid.
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>>60910772
Well right now it's a nightmare to try and find a new 7S26 mainspring assembly, even though it's the exact same part used in every 7000 series since the early 70's.

Just my two shekels.
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>>60905364
I've ordered an SKX013 just yesterday, so.. cheers

no need for encouragement, then, though I'm still interested in hearing about your experience with it - why do you wear it so rarely?

PS: bracelet, rubber, leather or nato?
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Does the SKX really "wear smaller" like people say it does? 40mm is generally my maximum size.
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>>60911079
No; go look at amazon reviews.
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>>60911105
I have, but honestly I trust you faggots more.
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Lost my auction on a lord marvel overnight


Shit
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>>60911079
Yes. The lugs are almost tucked underneath the case itself.
For even the smallest wrists, this removes the risk of lug overhang, which is typically the first symptom of excessive watch size.
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>>60911116
No i mean go look at the actual photos of people wearing the watch in the reviews and you'll see for yourself so when >>60911203
this idiot tells you they "lugs are tucked under the watch" you can see for yourself that they are not.
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>>60903817
why is A Lange & Sohne so highly regarded?
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>>60906667
That depends on how much a date complication, automatic winding, and hacking (the second hand stopping when you pull out the crown to set the time) are worth to you.

If those aren't critical features to you and you aren't super interested in the Omega's movement then I would go for the Lord Marvel, as you'll get a better deal.

Personally, I would go for the Omega because I would love to own an example of Omega's 56x/75x movement which is one of the best series produced automatic movement designs of the pre-quartz era, right up there with the ETA 2892.A2, the Seiko 52xx and the Rolex 303x.
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>>60908427
When dealing with vintage watches there is absolutely no substitute for doing your own research until you are able to evaluate originality, condition, and price for yourself. You will eventually get ripped off if you don't educate yourself.
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>>60911238
>the lugs on an SKX are not almost tucked underneath the case

idiot
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>>60911306
everything of the lugs you can see in the photo in my post is beyond the case.
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>>60911253
The finishing, for one.
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>>60911323
Because it's taken from the angle where you see the most of those bottom lugs.

See >>60911306
for an objective look at the lug-to-case proportions.
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>>60911323
This image brought to you by curved end links.
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>>60911342
there you go
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It's finally there!
It's really nice upclose.
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>>60909140
>kekle mein shekels
>Since even Seiko can't/won't repair vintage gs, you're stuck with the Japanese (and perhaps Koreans and Taiwanese but I'm not sure on their trustworthiness) watchmakers that can a. service them and b. actually have the parts left. It's Japancentric, since gs didn't make it far from Japan the last time they were being made. If you're not around there, I wouldn't recommend

This is so categorically false as to make me suspect you are knowingly and deliberately trying to mislead people. Please stop shitting up the watch threads with this kind of nonsense.

>>60908791
Please don't be mislead by that guy. There are lots of watchmakers in North America who work on vintage Seiko models. The primary issue people can run into with having vintage Seiko models is parts availability, but fortunately since Seiko typically used every movement family across multiple models its actually typically not that hard or expensive to find and buy donor movements to get any parts you might need.

However, as an example, I've purchased a few vintage Seiko LM Specials, a King Seiko Special, and a Seikomatic-P and the only parts I've ever needed was a day wheel on one of the LM Specials (which I found a NOS one of somewhere) and the occasional crystal (which you can usually still find). The movements themselves across 5 watches needed zero parts.

You just need to make sure you do your research on Google when looking for a watchmaker and see if you can find someone with a good online reputation for working on vintage watches in your area and literally call them up and ask them if they work on whichever model of watch you are thinking of getting.
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>>60911366
I did get an aftermarket wristband tho cause the one it comes with is gay.
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>>60911357
Please note how the bezel protrudes out over the lugs. This is what anon meant.
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>>60909413
No need to worry about it since you are virtually always better to deal with an independent watchmaker experienced at working on vintage watches than to deal with the authorized service center anyway, as they've been known to ruin vintage watches by polishing or replacing things without asking.
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>>60911357
Those lugs are almost tucked underneath the case/bezel.
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>>60911253
They make superbly crafted watches with wonderful movement finishing. That's all.
They have no grand heritage they can call back on that's not a modern conceit; they have fewer unique mechanical innovations compared to other, long standing companies; they don't even make their own cases, dials nor hands except in one or two limited special models.

But they BTFO of the Swiss watchmakers by coming in with all guns blazing and finishing even their basic movements beautifully when everyone else was still hiding their shit behind solid casebacks, encouraging indolence because "who going to see that stiff anyway?".

They were a new company that within the span of only 20 or so years managed to not only go toe to toe with long standing industry leaders, but have also in many respects surpassed those that have slackened and become lazier over the years, resting on their laurels and past reputations (Patek, AP et al.).
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>>60910651
As I said, I would never take a vintage watch to the authorized service center because they do shit like that. You are MUCH better off finding a reputable independent who specializes in vintage watches.
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>>60911201
Have fun seeing it on Reddit.
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>>60910772
>This is only in Japan, obviously.
Again, this is categorically false. There are dozens of watchmakers in North America well known enough for working on vintage Seikos to be fairly easy to turn up their names on vintage Seiko forums.

>Perhaps Seiko has changed this policy to reflect the market they're trying to push GS in? And though I remember hearing that after the controversy that amounted to collectors making a big stink about this whole "only a paltry 10 years" fact became more wildly known, Seiko came out with a feeble attempt at damage control to say "um ah er, we're changing it to 20 years!!!", nevertheless the official documentation still stated 10 years. (might not have even been Seiko HQ, but like Seiko USA or something.)

This is a bit of a misunderstanding on the part of customers. GS guarantees the availability of parts for 10 years after the end of production of a movement family, but since GS movements don't typically need parts replacements at regular services that stock of parts lasts for much longer than 10 years after they stopped making the movement.

A more realistic estimate would be to say you can expect to find parts for a GS movement for up to ~20-30 years after they stop making that movement. Hell you can still find lots of NOS parts for high end Seikos made in the 1970s if you know where to look.
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>>60911372
Have you ever had a vintage grand seiko repaired?
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>>60911476
I've had 3 1970s LM Specials, one 1967 Seikomatic-P and one 1975 King Seiko Special 5256-8010 serviced after purchase and my local watchmaker has done several vintage Grand Seiko and King Seiko models, as well as vintage Seiko divers (62mas, 6105, 6309), vintage Seiko chronographs (701x and 631x) and a few Lord Marvels.
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>>60910888

I work in an office environment. The SKX sticks out a little too much.
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>>60911366
Man, I'd totally pick up an Orient if it weren't for that "Water Resist" and "Water Resistant" on most of their dials. It really spikes me in the autism.
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>>60911658
Not to mention the tobacco logo.

>>60911577
You mean height wise?
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>>60911577
Divers are never going to look good in an office.
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>>60911705
I actually rather like the tobacco logo, a lot of logos looked like that back in the day.
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>>60911705
I think he means the skx is a steel tool dive watch and it looks bad with a suit.
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>>60911722
Puts me off entirely.

As does the entire styling.
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>>60911728
>>60911709
>>60911577
Dive watches can definitely work with sports jackets or even suits, but it would have to be the right kind of watch.
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>>60911658
I dunno man, it's really tiny in person and it balances out the text at the top of the dial. It's pretty subjective, but it personally doesn't bother me.
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>>60911767
Personally, I would never wear one with either of those, but different strokes and all that.
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>>60911771
I'd already own one if they'd remove it and move "Automatic" down there instead.
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>>60911777
Tell me this looks off.
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>>60911799
It does to me.
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>>60911799
Thats also not a 200 hunk of shit skx
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>>60911833
We were talking about dive watches in general.
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>>60911878
yeah it still looks wrong but i am calling you out on using a multi thousand dollar toned down swiss dive watch as an a example. A dress watch will always look better with a suit.
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>>60911906
>but i am calling you out on using a multi thousand dollar toned down swiss dive watch as an a example
Why?

I literally said dive watches can work with sports jackets but it would have to be the right kind of watch.
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>>60911577
>his workplace doesn't have a 'whatever the fuck you want' dress code.
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>>60911906
Actually, a dress watch on a sports jacket can be overkill.

Pasta incoming:

This is from formal to less formal:

-Actual formal attire (white tie/black tie) is a tradition that goes back to a time before wristwatches, so you wear a pocket watch with that.

-Suits (=matching jacket and pants) are more modern, so a dress watch is appropriate.

-A blazer is somewhat more casual than a suit jacket, and is supposed to exude a distinctly marine style. This calls for something that matches the traditional marine blue fabric and gold cuff links, i.e. something relatively garish.

-Sports jackets are casual and trendy, so you could wear something like a nice tool or dive watch and it would complement it perfectly.
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Is this is a nice and good looking watch?
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just get a vosktov lol
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>>60912334
Who cares what anyone else thinks.
If you like it, buy it.
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>>60907536
Shit. They don't ship to my country. Goddammit.
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>>60912605
>vosktov
It's VOSTOK you filthy piece of distended rectum!
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Is this thread on the wrong board?
Watches are listed under Men > Jewelery on every site I know?
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>>60911379
Link to strap?
Is it comfy?
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>>60912833
Truth be told, there's little difference between this thread and the on on /fa/g. Things were better when knowledgeable anons actually posted here, like that citizen eco-drive expert.
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What watch should I use to pick up slutty girls with loose morals and shallow cervixes?

love to pound that cervix boio
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>>60912779
Boctok
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>>60913287
use that android anon

slutty girls love 48mm watches
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>>60913093
That'd be this one.
https://www.watchstraps-batteries.com/straps-bands/leather-watch-bands/genuine-leather-strap-brown-12mm-pvk-054.html

Nothing fancy but it's pretty supple (unlike the default one which might as well be made out of fucking cardboard) and looks nice.
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>>60910552
Is that a rip off of that weird Breitling?
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>>60912779
>>60913450
its Bocтóк you subhumans
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>>60914071
>>>60912779
>>>60913450 (You)
>its Bocтóк you subhumans
>>60914071
Fuck, you got me
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anon who works in that NJ jewelry store, tell your boss to hurry up with my estimate.
In a nice way of course.
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>>60905079
this
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>>60912833
>>60913136
>>60913287
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>>60914113
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just got this shitter in the mail

put the SS bezel on it until my black skx boris bezel arrives.
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>>60915667
Small time.
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>>60915865
420 is too small

for me
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>>60913287
>>60913704
blow your load inside her cum pocket


girls like the feeling of being filled with cum

trust me femanon here
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do Americans really wear sports jackets to work
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>>60911799
It sure does, the crown is on the wrong side
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>>60916441
Yes.
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>>60916441
Yes, but a lot of people take them off once they get there.
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>>60916441
>do Americans really wear sports jackets to work
yes but i don't let those boys cum in me

proper attire or no blowing loads deep inside me
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Bump
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>>60918208
>Green ugly watch on a nato

but why
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Bought this for 50€ total, it seems to be in working condition. A Timex from the 1970s, thoughts?
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>>60918805
Old autos from Timex are pretty neat. Post pics of the movement if you have the proper tools to remove the caseback.
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>>60918832
Right, it hasn't arrived yet since I bought it recently in a drunk purchase but here's a pic from seller.
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>>60918832
Apparently there's this picture that I missed
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>>60918208
>>60918523
This.
They only look good with brown leather. Fucking nato meme.
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>>60920325
*blocks your path*
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>>60920346
this would actually work on an alpinist
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>>60920577
yeah throw that giant strap on there and wear it around everywhere so you never breed because everyone will know you have no fucking taste.
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>>60920819
how giant is it? you know just cause it looks huge in a picture doesnt mean its wider than the case
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>>60920819
im just plain shitposting here man i didn't think anything through. But now that you ask a leather strap that is multiple layers at some points.. probably pretty fucking big.
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>>60920819
are you on the spectrum, son?
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>>60903817
I don't know if gou guys give advice on smartwatches, but I'm still going to ask

I'm looking for watch that has:
>Hearth rate meter (Must be!!!)
>Ability to open pictures
>Not very expensive (Like 80$max?)

Is this possible?
I will be glad for all advices
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>>60907541
they aren't hard to replace. Most of times the IC is as expensive as the movement, and rarely sold on their own.

just easier to replace the entire thing desu. guarantee the thing works perfectly.

qt girl for attention :^)
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>>60921083
>I will be glad for all advices
yes, kill yourself and your dumb toy
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>>60921009
NO! I have no idea probably.. who gives a fuck
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>>60921216
what's your problem
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>>60921371
(((Smart Watch)))
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>>60921371
>!!!
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New snk809. How's it performing so far? I leave it overnight dial up on a flat surface.
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>>60921595
Nothing out of the ordinary for a 7S26.
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>>60910596
my cock was way too big for your mother's shithole
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>>60917006
Who cares about you fuckboy
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Is Seiko Superior truly superior
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>>60922040
>45.5mm diameter
>52mm lug to lug

YUGE.

I'm sure you could find a better seiko for $200 though.
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>>60921649
It still looks too big for your wrist.
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>>60922237
It is YUGE indeed. I still haven't measured my wrist though so I don't know how to choose to be honest.
>>
>have reasonably defined forearms
>all definition is lost just before the wrists and I turn into a wristlet

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
My favourite part of owning an auto so far is the lume. It's pleasant to see it illuminate when you need it without pressing buttons etc. That and the beat sound.
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>>60922407
My uncle is a body builder and has that same problem.
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>mfw im waiting for 3 watches to return
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>>60918805
Nice, but does it have any jewels? Heard that some of them didn't, which meant they were disposable.
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>>60921595
That's much better than my C60 Pro with a 2824-2.
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>>60907977
this may be the cleanest movement on earth. does anyone know what this is from?
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>>60921083
>hearth rate meter
??
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Are there any watches with self rotating bezels that act like an egg timer or something
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>>60911324
>those melted angles on the datograph
7/10 at most,
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>>60912627
Just use a reshippping service with a good reputation.
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>>60911406
watches are for wearing, even if the back is glass you;ll never see it anyway.

This is a poor excuse for retards who think a couple hours with rouge means anything.
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bought a vintage quartz watch that's non operating, how likely and expensive is it to get repaired if I find a master watch repair place?

It's a seiko grand twin quartz (1970s)
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>>60923827
If that's what you believe, you won't be here. You won't be spending more than 10 bucks for a watch.
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>>60922040
>we want the Fossil crowd
No Seiko pls don't. Your better than this.
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>>60923848
Parts will probably be rare and scattered around the globe, expect paying more than the watch for the watchmaker to source all the parts.

If he'll bother with it anyway and not just kick you out for not just bringing him a Miyota 2035 with a torn coil.
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>>60924164
Its a decent movement but people creaming themselves over the polish are retarded, it has nothing going for it over other larger and less expensive brands besides that becasue they use the same ones.
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>>60922237
For $200 are Seiko and Orient the best choice I can get?
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I just saw a Turtle irl for the first time (blue one). It's kinda big, but not unwearable big.

Also this pic is hilarious, some Malayan manlet shrimp watch reviewer.
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So I told CreationWatches they could fuck off with their $10 and to give me all the money. I was given a form to complete, where they asked for the serial number. Small problem: the warranty card doesn't have one.
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>>60924833
I'm starting to believe they bribed some chap in the Seiko factory to give them the models that failed QC.
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>>60924833
The serial number should be on the caseback m8.
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>>60924847
Gonna be a pain to read without removing the sticker. Thanks!
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>>60922647
yep mine had no jewels. Was nice but the dial was corroded so i chucked it out

also

is the SKX a meme or worth getting. not a fan of the movement
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>>60925001
Up to you. I'd get a Citizen Promaster Solar if I was looking for a cheap diver, but then again, I just got burned by Seiko QC.
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>>60925001

If you actually dive and need iso then maybe. If not then no fucking way. The orient is way nicer looking and has a better movement for less money.
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>>60925388
I think the Orient looks worse and it also has worse lume.
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>>60925424
you think the skx looks better than this? And you would rather have brighter lume than a better movement? I honestly can't tell if you guys all have bad taste or if you are all such die hard seiko fags that you are all delusional.
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>>60923747
The angles isn't the point, it's the anlage. Dufour's the angle king if that's what you're focusing on.

>>60923827
>This is a poor excuse for retards who think a couple hours with rouge means anything.
Then the entire haute horology market is filled with retards. They seem to be doing pretty well to afford this simple shit, and the makers do well selling to them. Are you just another salty poorfag? Not criticising, just curious.
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>>60925447
>talks about bad taste
>posts mako instead of ray
Have fun with that, kiddo.
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>>60925597
Truly the ultimate pleb test, getting a Mako over a Ray.
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>>60911324
>Patek Cal. 240
Are you sure this isn't a troll image and that's not a Vostok 2414?
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>>60925626
Not him but I think the mako looks classier, although the ray is more classic dive watch. The ray's bracelet is worse though with the fake polished links instead of the mako's plain oyster.
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>>60925859
>mako
>classy
How is the font on that bezel anything other than disguisting?
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>>60925994
>>60925994
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