/wt/ - Watch Thread

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>"the Sinn is a better Navitimer than the modern-day Breitling"

or

>"the Sinn is a cheap homage to the Breitling Navitimer"

Keep the following in mind:
- Breitling went bust a few times and is no longer the same company
- Sinn is more true to the original sizing and tool watch philosophy of the watch than the Breitling
- Sinn actually did buy the rights to the Navitimer in the late 70s when the original Breitling, so it's in a sense a more legitimate heir and successor than modern-day Breitling

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>>60888379
... or should I just get the Seiko flightmaster?

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first for fucboi watches

suggest watches to help me bet the best fucboi i can be

>>60888379
>>60888422

All of them are 3busy5me. If you're really dead set on one of them get the sinn.

>>60888422

First tell me how many liters is 60 miles per hour?

>>60888447
>3busy5me
You should see them irl, the look really works.

>>60888490
no it does not, they all look like cheap dad mall watches

if you don't know how to use a slide rule and have no use for all that bullshit don't buy one or ur a poser

>>60888439
can you go kill yourself already?

>>60888510
>they all look like cheap dad mall watches
No they don't.

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Hi Watch Thread! I'm new here, but thought you guys might like to see this. It's my collection! Let me know what you all think!

@60888379 those are expensive! Haha

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>>60888611

>>60888611
Go shitpost on fa you faggot

>>60888379
>>60888447
>>60888490
>>60888562
>Uninterested and unable to compare the Breitling B01 to Sellita's 7750 knock-off on their technical merits
>Reduced to babbling about muh history muh authenticity
Fucking clueless nu/wt/ faggots need to leave. I fucking despise what these threads have been reduced to.

@60888633
@60888635

I guess you don't like my collection. But you don't have to be so mean :(

>>60888659
Please enlighten us anon.

Y'know it could just as easily be that they've not looked into it because they don't care for slide rule watches?

>>60888688
This collection has been posted here before.
>Is that the fucking Razer watch

>>60888659
My question was indeed about the history and authenticity of the Sinn vs the Breitling, yes.

If you want to bring up the technical merits of the Breitling in-house movement as an argument, then do so by all means.
But don't pretend like that was what my post was about.

And fyi, Navitimers always used outsourced movements. This includes 7750s (to this day even).

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>>60888611
They're beautiful, anon.

>>60888690
>>60888745
The Breitling B01 is a mostly in-house column wheel, vertical clutch chronograph movement while the SW500 is a clone of the cam-actuated, horizontal clutch Valjoux 7750.

The B01 is a much better design, and should clearly lift the Breitling Navitimer over the SW500 powered Sinn version.

>>60888611
I love the Boss watch, it really shows you're a boss! haha

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>>60888439
>first for fucboi watches

I like to fuck guys wearing watches made for little boy in an ironic way, like wearing a watch that comes with a happy meal

gets me rock hard

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>>60888562
>>they all look like cheap dad mall watches
>No they don't.

from 3 feet away on your wrist yeah they do, they look like citizen navihawks or whatever they are called, they look like shit

also you don't know how to use a slide rule and if you did you have no use for it

and are thus a faggot for wearing one

>>60888846
My question is simply whether the Sinn is more than just an homage.

If technical merit was all I wanted (column wheel & vertical clutch), I'd save thousands and buy a Seiko.

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So someone asked two threads ago how does a komandirskie timegraph look. This is face up.

>>60889054
wow fascinating

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>>60888422
Rotary make a Navitimer homage.

>>60889054
what mic are you using? a guitar pickup or a standard mic?

>>60888960
I use my slide rule bezel for
>currency conversion
>calculating tips
>going between imperial and metric systems
>fuel consumption on road trips

Stay pleb.

>>60888659
I would hate to be as autistic as you are about something as dumb as a watch. Jesus fucking christ, go outside you sperg.

>>60888422
>how many northwests are in a kilometer?

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>>60888688
>posting worst collection ever
>using @ to quote
2/10 as I replied

>>60889091
>>fuel consumption on road trips
sure you do

I use mine to make change because I am too fucking stupid to do it in my head

>>60889069
That's just the thing, the guy was expecting that they're probably some broken as fuck things. It's just a watch, it has normal readings if you don't hammer in nails with it.

>>60889075
One of those cheap $5 clips with a piezo mic. But I had to make a preamp for that.

http://hackaweek.com/hacks/?p=327

>>60888960
I like the way it looks, and I'd use the shit out of a slide rule bezel.
When you get proficient, it's a lot faster than using a calculator for tons of things. And it's a lot quicker to get to than your calculator too, so it's faster in that regard as well.

>>60889187
>I like the way it looks

you should see if they can fit more shit on there for you

more lines and stuff, maybe another dial

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>>60889149
Also, I had to make it a two stage preamp, meaning, the output of the schematic I linked you goes straight into another circuit like that. If you wanna build it ask here if you need anything.

This is crown down.

>>60889259

I have a pre amp already. I was also on the forum thread and the creator is somehow using a standard mic but i can't get anything i have to pick up the tick.

>>60889054
>>60889259
That seems like pretty low amplitude. Is it just that a lower number is normal for the slavmovements? I remember reading that old seikos having an amplitude of 250 degrees, give or take, was normal for them.

>>60889259
I had to up the wattage on mine when I added vacuum tubes, I flipped a 50 amp breaker last time I used it

fucking komandirskie still loses 10 seconds a day though

>>60889259
why don't you faggots just buy quartz watches if you want accuracy

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I got myself a Tudor.

Does anyone have any tips on removing links from this type of bracelet?

I see it has tiny little screws. Can I just unscrew them?

Any real risks of me breaking anything?

Pic is random from the internet, but it's the same watch.

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>>60889370
>Can I just unscrew them?

NO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T TRY THAT YOU WILL RUIN EVERYTHING

>>60889370
Just unscrew it carefully so you don't scratch it.

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>>60889396
>Just unscrew it carefully so you don't scratch it.
HE'S GOING TO BUST HIS FLYWHEEL

>>60889411
I'd hit that

>>60889396

Aren't Tudor and Rolex bracelets quite similar?

I've heard that Rolex screws are coated in loctite and you're supposed to reapply it when screwing it back in.

>>60889356
I have a quartz. But I also want a slavshit.

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>>60889444
He should send it back to tudor telling them how many links to remove so his girl wrist can be snug in his watch and pay them a few hundred to do it right or fuck his shit up alone

>>60889438
>I'd hit that

no she's my gf

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>>60889356
That's far less interesting than a collection of springs and gears running +0 seconds total after 52 days.

>>60889386
>>60889411
>>60889515
Kill yourself, shitposter.

>>60889515
>>60889411

What is wrong with you?

Help

I need the cheapest mechanical (((tritium))) watch on the market

>>60890309
Maybe Marathon

>>60890401
Haha no, their shit is expensive as fuck.
>>60890309
https://www.aragonwatch.com/FATHER_S_DAY_SALE_s/405.htm One of these probably, after the coupon code only $190. Deep blue used to have a cheaper one during sales but they're all gone.

>>60890496
>45mm diameter
>17mm thick

YUGE.

Thanks for the answer anon.

>>60888439
apple watch, the only guy I know who wears one is really gay

im sure he's a power bottom

>>60890588
You asked which was cheapest

>>60890917
>power bottom
God I love power bottoms

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>tfw been trying to unload my Junghans Chronoscope for a very fair price but nobody wants it

Fine I'll keep it then.

>>60891217
OK Chairman

>>60891217
Ill take for $900

>>60891361

That's how much I had it on eBay for anon.

Fuckers kept offering $300 or $400 for it.

>>60891217
I wouldn't pay more than 350 for one of those shitters

How much would you realistically pay for a nomos tangente 35mm

looking for cheap, attractive russian watch for cheeki breeki and camping. not a fan of huge diver bezels, would prefer something with a smaller bezel, but at the very least water resistant (ie: on my wrist if I reach my hand down into a river, not diving 200m under the sea). used is totally ok

suggestions?

>>60891497
Considering the in house movement, no more than $1k. Though the simple, flat case & lugs are a turnoff, so really the answer is I wouldn't pay anything.

>>60891509
Buy an amphibia the bezels are not that big.

For all things vostok meranom.com

I hope your camping trip isn't within 4 weeks because lmao shipping from Russia

Thanks for the encouragement and advice. Proud owner of my first auto. Will be selling my Timex expedition that didn't fit me. Wouldn't have known if I hadn't posted here.

>>60891107
no he didn't lol

>>60891509
Do not buy Russian.. they are shit. get a fucking orient diver

>>60891591
looking to spend $20, not $150. i want some cheap piece of shit that's rock solid and keeps time within a reasonable margin. keep in mind this watch will get the hell beato ut of it

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>>60891575
Forgot pic

>>60891617

You are not getting an amphibian for 20 dollars the classic shitter is at least 65 direct from russia.

>>60891642

Isn't that a 36mm watch ?

How small are you?

>>60891648
the watches (minus band) are $10-30 all day used on ebay. i'll probably stick a NATO nylon strap on it or something.

>>60891642
Holy fuck and I thought I was a wristlet. That has to be a 5.75 inch wrist.

>>60891691
go ahead and link them buddy.

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>>60891691
oh like this ?

>>60891691
komandirskie's are 35 shipped from meranom and amphibia's are 65 shipped factory new.. You want to spend on average 40-60 dollars on a destroyed used russian shitter? are you literally retarded?

>>60891662
25, 177cm, 60kg
Used to be 55kg

>>60891872
but the shipping is free

>>60892031
5'10 132 pounds? Are you a women or a holocaust victim? I'm 5'8 and before i started lifting i was a twig at 145...

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Can /wt/ tell me anything about this watch I inherited from my grandma?

>>60892223
Set the time on it to 3:48 and post of a pic of the dial.

>>60891872
Get a brand new one if you want waterproof and not already beat to shit.

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>>60892274
I don't have the watch here with me, but here is a pic of the dial.

>>60892322
Convenient excuse. Even ignoring that, there are details that don't line up with any vintage calatrava I've been able to find.

>gold case, blued hands
>misaligned 12 marker
>painted indices which don't match any other calatrava
>seconds hand looks wrong

I could go on. So ostensibly it's a patek calatrava, but I doubt it's real.

>>60892051
>mfw I'm 6'3" and 135 pounds

people tell me I should model or something lmao

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>>60887900
Is there a good resource for comparing G-Shock model features? The website kind of sucks, it'd be cool to have a chart to look at or something.

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Is this worth it?
Price seems kinda steep to me...

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>>60888960
>also you don't know how to use a slide rule and if you did you have no use for it

You just fucking triggered me

Slide rules are an absolute GOD SEND when taking exams, especially long 200+ question ones, since you can calculate how many questions you can get wrong before falling below an A.
Also a god-send for autistically calculating grades 24/7

>>60888846
>The B01 is a much better design, and should clearly lift the Breitling Navitimer over the SW500 powered Sinn version.
Nigga get the fuck outta here. I'd take the valjew any fucking day of the week just based on how much cheaper they are to service

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>>60893400
>$25
>steep

>>60891617
Timex expedition

>>60893453
It's a strip of leather anon

Really though, has anyone bought from strapsco?
Are they any good?

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>>60893425
My shitty xperia always makes my arm look fat fug

>>60893425

>since you can calculate how many questions you can get wrong before falling below an A.

bruh what world you in where you aren't trying to get every question right.

"oh ho ho got a is 235 question test over here lemme break out the slide rule"

if youre taking a 200+ question test and somehow come to the conclusion that you need a special freakin watch to figure out 10% of that value you're literally retarded

getting secondhand buyers remorse just reading that shit

>>60893631
It's not that simple man
I can calculate exactly how many questions I can get wrong on each test (during the test) and still be in the A range.

Sorry I'm not an art major where you can get every question right on exams

>>60893664

nah I'm pretty sure it's that simple.

235/10 = 23.5

90-100 is an A

therefore you can get ~23 problems wrong before you shit the bed. Being off by one problem in your calculation isn't gonna be a huge deal.

more complicated test might have written and multiple choice sections. so now you're allocating time towards optimizing the problems to answer rather than answering the "gimme" questions first, medium questions next, harder questions last.

If the grading scale becomes more complex than this then you're a silly billy for wasting time figuring out which questions you should be answering. if it's less complex than this you're still a silly billy for even bothering to break out a calculator let alone a slide rule

>>60893850
wow you must be fun at parties

>>60893664
the point im really driving at is that you're not allowed to have any sort of preferences or taste to do things your own way for anything ever

>>60891382
>>60891217
Does it have a Seiko movement?

>>60891872
That's a Komandirskie not an Amphibia, it doesn't have as much wr.

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Turtle refund from creationwatches update. I only found one service center, and they only seem to honour the warranty of products they imported. Still, shot them an email. I know a few watchmakers, but I don't know if I can trust them with realigning the lume blobs. Fuck that site.

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Nothing can top this.

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>>60893850
Or I can just spin my bezel a few times and free up my brain for the hundreds of pages of biochem/etc. material.

They also come in handy when you do time-distance calculations and fuel consumption.
Slide rules are great, I really don't understand the hate

>>60894178
Why the fuck didn't you buy a black one?
And why didn't you buy off amazon or ebay you dumb fuck
>>60894230
Could unironically be useful if you need to track 3 timezones at once

>>60894277
How often do you need to do that?

>>60894280
I wanted a blue watch on a bracelet. It was 222 euros + taxes, still the cheapest I could find. Do the black ones have better QC? I've never heard about this before.

>>60894527
Not him, but I do calculations all the time when I'm counting words (translator) or making invoices or planning my budget n shieet.

Not only is a slide rule quicker for these snap calculations, but it beats the hell out of looking at a calculator too.

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>>60894640
>it beats the hell out of looking at a calculator

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>mfw Neptune preorder soon Stalker

>>60894656
You're right, it does beat the hell out of looking at a calculator.

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Is it safe to leave a self-winding watch without wearing it for a day?

>>60894799
No, you risk permanent damage.

>>60894799
You really need to stay close and monitor the watch, or it will start to self-wind itself to the point of destruction. And not in a good way.

Junkers, laco are junk

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>>60894749
What the fuck does that even mean?

>>60894973
You know how some things are nicer to look at than others? Well it's kind of like that.

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>>60894988
Care to actually describe anything?

>>60894994
What?

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>>60887900
just got a new band folks

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>>60895004
Whatever Anon, I hope your special eyes remain comfortable or whatever.

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>>60895008
>hairy faggot

wax those arms NOW NOW NOW NOW

>>60895008
Wear it in good health. Until you get the bad aids.

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Recently bought this, thoughts?

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>>60895021
>>60894994
>>60894973
>when you have the autism so bad you fail to grasp the concept of "X looks nicer than Y"

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Why is Philippe DuFour hailed as so great? His stuff looks nice, but sure as fuck not the prices he charges. It's just some old faggot making mechanical watches

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>>60895141
Not nearly as autistic as somebody who can't figure out "What makes you like it better?".

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>>60895157
Gee I don't know anon.

>>60895205
Does your autism render you incapable of answering simple questions?

>>60895218
>is in a watch thread
>asks what makes watches nicer to look at than calculators

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>>60895239
So, you literally fucking can't, impressive.

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>>60895156
Everything about it is hand made perfection. Of course it's expensive.

>>60895156
He's regarded as the best watch maker alive. He's only made something like 200 watches so incredibly rare and hard to obtain. All hand made and finished to an obsessive level. Many people like clean dress watches and experts rate this as the best you can get. There's a reason he called his watches Simplicity.

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>>60895156
Dufour is slapping the Swiss across the face with a "fuck you" level of reality.

Brands like Patek Philippe are ubiquitously respected, but they literally cut corners (pic related) while Dufour rubs his corners by hand using sticks of different kinds of wood until he hears just the right kind of squeaking coming from the wood-on-metal contact.

He's more likely to praise Japanese and German watchmakers than his fellow Swiss.

He's the savior of Swiss watchmaking.

>>60895245
No, I can't explain to you what makes the watch look better than the calculator like in this pic: >>60895205

Sorry about your autism.

>>60895290
>He's only made something like 200 watches

And something like 170 of those were bought by the Japanese.

The people at Seiko also invited him over to teach them his ways, and he took them into the woods to find a plant that has the same wood as a local plant he uses for hand-polishing in his workshop in Switzerland.

>>60895320
I bet he's a real nigga and don't wear finger gloves.

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>>60895351
>he took them into the woods to find a plant that has the same wood as a local plant he uses for hand-polishing in his workshop in Switzerland.

He sounds like an actual wizard. At least seiko took his advice to heart if the eichi II is any indication.

>>60895354
>>60895381
>>60895156
Watch this brief documentary, and learn about the master's process.

Warning: you'll learn something about what it takes to become an old man, and the fleeting nature of life itself as well.

>>60895443
Woops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9nm1HfU2Y8

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>>60888439

>>60894280
>Could unironically be useful if you need to track 3 timezones at once
Use a gmt master like a normal person

>>60894799
No. If you buy 10 watches you need to wear them all permanently.

>tfw just heard about ochs und junior
Why buy anything else in this price range?

>>60892885
you should eat bro

>>60894799
You must not leave the watch idle. I put mine on my dog when i am not wearing them.

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>>60895156

I personally like simple dress watches and what would be my design philosophy aligns with his. His watch simplicity is not only perfect and simple but was designed to last for as long as possible. Everything is overbuilt to an insane degree for longevity. He wanted to build a watch that would be passed down through the generations. He wanted to build something that would be in essence timeless.

Do they not make El Primeros anymore? Can't find them on their fucking website, outside of a page on its history.

>live in Yurop
>have to order rare parts from Jules Borel in America because only they have them
Shipping cost should be enough to cover NASA's Orion program, fuck me.

I'm tempted, /wt/

http://wornandwound.com/review/nezumi-voiture-review/


should I pull the trigger?

>>60896087
24 hour subdial is a waste of space on a chrono imo.

>>60896087
>http://wornandwound.com/review/nezumi-voiture-review/


ugly dial

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>>60894827
>>60894907
>>60895618
>>60895933
Thanks. I'm getting my first automatic and I'm looking to take care of it forever.

>>60896131
THIS. Personally can't stand them.

>>60895933
Same, I leave my automatics in the car, someone in the family will always be driving it when I'm not.

>>60896131
>>60896227
Blame Seiko. Their Giugiaro suffers from the same horseshit.

>>60896087
That is an obvious speedmaster homage.

>>60896237
I'd say it looks more like a Tudor Heritage racing chrono.

>>60896191
>PVD
>Forever
I assume AVI-8 is bait, but just in case it isn't, that's a poor choice.

>>60887845
That's because you're an imbecile

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>>60896324
I honestly love the looks of it. The Seiko Prospex SRPA looks nice as well. I'm looking for something like these. And in case if you've noticed them, yes, they're the recent drops in Massdrop. I'm still looking for a new drop today from Massdrop, hoping it'd be something similar to both of these at a good price.

Also, do you mind telling me why AVI-8 would be a poor choice?

>>60888510
Here's another complete retard
>ur
>poser
kys you useless imbecile who didn't even know it was called a slide rule until two threads ago

>>60888659
The in-house B01 isn't nearly as proven as the 7750 is.
And Breitling being a notoriously shitty company, fuck knows what is going to happen down the line.
They might start ramping up the servicing costs simply because they have the monopoly; or worse they might go belly-up again and you're stuck with your proprietary snowflake movement nobody can source parts for anymore.

There's a reason the Breitlings with in-house movements hold less value than the Sinn 903; and that is the fact that they turned the navitimer into something it wasn't supposed to be: an oversized snob watch.

>>60894277
the idea is logically sound but silly at first glance, so I was more taking a cheap shot than anything else

>>60896392
How long have you liked the design? It seems like the sort of thing that someone might 'grow out of.'

I'm not familiar with AVI-8's automatic offerings, but I have read about shoddy build quality in some of their quartz models. Also, for a PVD generally doesn't last, and can scratch more easily.

Between those two, I would trust the Seiko a lot more. Keep in mind that the Seiko has the compass function as well, which might be nice if you're into that.

>>60895991
Click on collections
And then chronomaster

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>>60888422

get the Flightmaster

have one Rolex like a Datejust and then a few fun quality-shitters like the SKX and Flightmaster

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fucboi here from last night, went and got a happy meal watch and wore it to the bars.

Got my ass pounded raw bros, so fucking raw and I'm all full of cum now

thanks for the advice

>>60897002
I really would not go that far. The breitling may have the more "technical" chronograph but the eta base movement is almost functionally perfect. Probably one of the best base movements ever made.

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Which one should I get, /wt/?

I'm a debonair manly man in need of a debonair manly watch as my one and only watch for the next couple of decades.

Both watches are manly yet refined, with the Tudor being a bit more brutish and rugged, and the Sinn a bit more cerebral.

Personally, I look brutish and rugged at first glance
>hairy, 6'3" athletic build, massive head with near-ugly mug and square jaw

but I'm also very cerebral
>fluent in 5 languages, at the top of my intellectual field

>>60897082
Also, I like the in-house Tudor movement, but as I understand it the 7750 in the Sinn is "top grade", so the advantage for Tudor in this respect is kind of minimal.

>>60897116
>Also, I like the in-house Tudor movement, but as I understand it the 7750 in the Sinn is "top grade", so the advantage for Tudor in this respect is kind of minimal.
buy a casio you sound like a tool

>>60897155
In-house snobbery is worst snobbery.

fyi the navitimer pretty much always had outsourced movements from the very beginning.

>>60897082
Tudor, the Sinn looks like that one Breitling that's faked out the ass by the Chinks. People might think you're wearing a fake from afar.

>>60897163
>People might think you're wearing a fake from afar.
That's very true, but then they might also think I'm wearing a fake Rolex from afar with the Tudor.

The Sinn is actually perfect when it comes to branding; I get to wear an authentic design (Sinn bought the rights to it in 79 and original Breitling disappeared) without having to display the snobby Breitling brand.

>>60897082
Tudor is the nicer watch .

>>60897206
Care to elaborate?

>>60897258
I personally find the aesthetics of the Tudor more pleasing. I just think its the nicer watch and i also think most people would agree with me. If you like the other one better get that one. They are both decent watches. Both have pretty good movements but the Tudor probably has better finishing.

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>>60897360
I think I like the aesthetics on both watches equally, although the designs are so different.

And as for build and finishing quality, rest assured that the Sinn is no slouch, see pic for instance.

>>60897438
Not the same Anon you've been talking with, I don't exactly see anything in that photo that screams super high quality.

>>60897483
Look at the way the light glints off each and every little number and indice.
It shows the three-dimensionality of the ink. Those little triangles are practically little pyramids.

The way to accomplish this is very laborious, but the result is pretty spectacular.

>>60897538
It doesn't look bad, but it's not nearly as laborious as you think to print shit on a dial; a machine shits it out in a matter of seconds.

>>60897160

It's not snobbery. He's treating you like the retard you're acting like.

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>>60897551
Lol no.

The dial is pad printed like pic related (you can see the rubber ball at the top), and has to be fired in an oven numerous times in between. It literally takes dozens of steps to get that dial.
And that's without mentioning the handwork and heightened levels of QC this requires, as it's very easy to fuck up this process at any stage.

Sinn uses the same process as Breitling; they bought the tooling in the late 70s.

>>60897554
And why is that?

>>60897668
If you think most of that shit is true, I have some property for sale.

>>60897668

You consider the difference between Tudors in house movement and a fucking 7750 to be minimal.

How do you expect to be treated ?

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>>60897680
It simply is true.

Compare with the Seiko flightmaster dial. It's very nice and crisp, but you're not going to see the three-dimensionality of the printing like on Breitlings or Sinn.

This lack of 3D is particularly noticeable in the areas circled in red.

>>60897718
You sound like you want to fight me over it. It's very intimidating.

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>>60889095
>something as dumb as a watch
>in the watch thread

>>60897668
You are asking for our onion but you keep saying you want the sinn and that pad printing is really nice... its not expensive to do and doesn't take that long... if you like the sinn buy it but it is the inferior timepiece. If you like it better than it will be better for you however. Just do what you like but don't try to ask for advice when you have the answer already. Buy the fucking sinn.

So can I buy a Miyota movement for my Laco? I made the mistake of dumping 190 bucks on a quartz watch and Im wondering if it's as simple as swapping movements instead of getting an automatic

>>60896716
As you might've guessed, just when the drop was made available. I've been eyeing for an automatic watch for a long time now though.

I do have a couple of nice quartz chronos. I mean, I got complimented a lot for them so they must be nice, right?

Lol anyway, I was more of a stainless steel only guy. I'm more open to options now but the AVI-8 QC reputation is somewhat scary, to be honest.

You know what, I'm gonna wait for more drops and see if there's any more that I like. Chrono24 doesn't seem to have any pre owned ones that's under my budget though.

>>60898296
>you keep saying you want the sinn

Lol, where did I say that?

>>60898350
Probably not. Look, dude, stop saying you made a mistake. The Laco is a flieger and fliegers were made to be practical. If the original flieger had been made today, it'd be quartz. When quartz came out, the overwhelming majority of people embraced it and looked down on mechanicals. You were perfectly happy with it before; there's no reason not to still be happy with it. So some people want an objectively inferiour movement for its subjective appeal, myself included. That shouldn't change your enjoyment of the watch. If you want a mech, look for a Vostok or a Seiko 5 in a different style to widen your collection.

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>>60898427
b-but my autism

>>60898379

When people tell you to get the tudor you bring up how "nice" and special the sinn is... you clearly want it. i should have said you keep showing signs of wanting the sinn.. Now go buy the watch you want and go be a faggot elsewhere.. we got shit to discuss on this here thread.

>>60898463
Someone implied the Sinn wasn't as nicely finished as the Tudor, and I merely replied that the Sinn was "no slouch" in that department.

The finishing quality isn't going to be the deciding factor here, since they're both very nicely done.

>>60893400
Anyone?

>>60898523
>>60898592
what the fuck is wrong with you people? What do you want to hear?

>>60894540
Yes, the black ones have better qc
The gold+black tends to be the worst

Are there any cheap, timeless digital watches that aren't made for terrorists?

>>60898635
Are you autistic?

>>60898635
If the fucking strap is any good?
90% of sellers just have rebranded aliexpress shit and they sell them for 20-30 bucks
I don't have the cash to drop on a colareb strip of cowskin for like 50 bucks

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>>60897082
>Actually considering a piece of shit Valjoux 7750 over a balance bridge silicon escapement free sprung balance masterpiece of modern production movement design.
That's it, /wt/ is fucking dead.

>>60899058
Yeah, it's not like there's anything else going on with those watches, right?

>>60899058
I'd rather have a cheaper, more reliable and easily servicable movement.
Have fun getting assfucked by breitling

>>60899461
>Balance bridge
>Silicon escapement
>Free sprung balance
>Breitling
Just kill yourself you absolute fucking know nothing pleb.

>>60899531
Show us on the doll where the valjew touched you

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>>60899556
>Being so ignorant about mechanical movements you don't even understand the terms "balance bridge", "silicon escapement" and "free sprung balance" and therefore can't realize I must be talking about the Tudor and not the Breitling

>>60898772
You might as well spend another $5 and get a Vietnamese crocodile or python strap or something.

>>60897195
>nice fake, faggot
>b-but sinn bought the rights back in...

just buy the pelagos you dimwit

>>60899676
I almost think I'd rather have people erroneously think it's a fake, than have to deal with that gaudy Breitling branding.

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Daily reminder that there is nothing wrong with quartz, and if you deslike them you are a luddite cocksucker

>>60897082
Tudor black bay in your colour of choice.
It's less brutish compared to the pelagos, but it's not as cluttered as the sinn.

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>>60899831

>>60899851
I don't like the styling of the black bay so much.

The round hour markers and overall design just scream submariner homage, and those flat polished case flanks are atrocious.

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>>60895008
I don't like how the colors mix where they meet, there should be a clear and clean division.

>>60900305
The KKK already used the rainbow flag for its propaganda 13 years ago. You're fucking late anon.

>>60895008
Isnt that the one it comes with?

>>60899831
What watch is that?

>>60897082
You sound like an utter faggot, but you can actually buy both if you play the watch game correctly.
Buy the Sinn first, and get it used. It should be under 2k.
Wait like a year on the tudor, they're memes right now and have inflated prices.

>>60900412
We must secure the existence of our shitposts and the future of dank memes.

>>60900509
Multiculturalism is a racism idea to prevent "race" mixing.

>>60900468
I'm buying this as my one and only watch for the next couple of decades, you sure buying used is a good idea?

>>60900541
Yes, Sinn watches are robust and well made.
And if you want a watch to last that long then you'll need regular servicing, which is fine on a "generic" movement like a 7750, but bank breaking with a tudor in house movement.
Why not buy the sinn and a seiko beater so you don't put as much wear on the nicer watch?

You could also get a tegimented sinn/damasko. A lot more expensive than a used 903 but it'll hold up much better.

>>60900655
>Suggesting a chronograph movement will be cheaper to service than a time/date only movement
You are wrong about literally fucking everything you fucking retard. Just shut the fuck up and stop LARPing like you know ANYTHING about watches.

mechanical chronographs are typically $350-$750 to have serviced by and independent vs ~$150-$300 for a time/date only movement.

On most competently made movements you shouldn't normally need any parts are regular services anyway.

>>60900800
*Parts AT regular services anyway

>>60893189
Bumping this question again. I'll probably write Casio if I don't find anything. I asked /k/, too, since they're big on G-Shocks.
>>>/k/34255686

>>60894277
how do you live if moving a decimal point is using up all your brain is the point

>>60900800
>~$150-$300 for a time/date only movement
This is where you're wrong. First of all, no independent will touch an in-house, even if it's a time only. They don't have access to OEM parts, they don't have experience disassambling in-house movements (each one is different), they don't know what lubrication the fancy silicon parts require.

So, you're left with authorised dealers. Do you know what Rolex charges for basic service of a time only, say Submariner? (no parts needed, no damage requiring repair)
$500.
If parts are needed and/or extensive repairs?
$1200.
And a couple months to get your watch back.

Have a guess what Tudor, a Rolex company, might charge for their in-house.


ETAs on the other hand are so commonplace, and their parts as well, everyone can service them. That said, do you know what I was quoted by an authorised dealer, for a complete service+lubrication of a 7750 Hamilton? 200 Euros, approximately 240$ (at the time).

It's beyond retarded to compare service costs of an ETA (even with complications) to an in house.
An ETA 2824 will be cheaper to service than a 7750, but an in-house time only from any swiss brand will be double the price of even the most complicated ETA.

>>60901223
> no independent will touch an in-house, even if it's a time only. They don't have access to OEM parts, they don't have experience disassambling in-house movements (each one is different), they don't know what lubrication the fancy silicon parts require.
Totally false. I know three independents who will do regular services on Rolex/Tudor just off the top of my head, and at least one of them still has his parts account with Rolex and can get still even get new parts.

I've literally had a 3135 Rolex serviced within the last 12 months at an independent for $150. None or the three independents I know will do ANY mechanical chronograph for less than $350, either.

The notion that no independent will touch an in-house movement to do a regular service is simply fabricated out of whole cloth. I have no idea where you came up with such a ridiculous idea.

>>60901476
The tudor pelagos movement is much newer and more complex than a 3135 movement.

Also you would void the warranty, which is stupid to do if you buy new.


Are you seriously trying to claim that it's cheaper to service an in house movement over the 2nd most abundant movement in the industry today?

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It's time

>>60901644
Is it only for the blue one?

>>60901644
badum tiss
I'll probably miss out on this run

also, if I have two identical mechanical watches, and one is much louder than the other, what does that mean?

how tight do you wear your wristwatch ?

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Whats /wt/ wearing today?

How well do Tudors hold their value?

Does the new in-house movement help?

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>>60901787
Gold meme Casio. Funny enough the watch I get complemented on the most.

>>60894230
I own one of these

>>60901476
>I know three independents who will do regular services on Rolex/Tudor just off the top of my head, and at least one of them still has his parts account with Rolex and can get still even get new parts.
Nice anecdote, especially about the guy with the special relationship wih Rolex that grants him access to new parts.

Independents as a rule won't touch in-house.

Are you seriously suggesting that the average independent has access to new OEM parts and schematics from Rolex, Patek, Jaeger, Tudor, etc.?

And no sane in-house owner will bring his new watch to an independent, voiding the warranty and slashing his watch's value on the second hand market.

>>60901844
Which one?

>>60901815
Fuck dude it does look good!

>>60901853
The one you posted?

>>60901844
Pics?

Do you have the lighter one?

>>60901864
No, I mean which one? Top right, middle, or bottom right?

>>60901870
Welp I laughed keep your heart of gold

>>60899058

The tudor watch is much better in every way. I mentioned it to him many times. But now you are going to far calling the 7750 a piece of shit. It is in a different league compared to the tudor but it is not a piece of shit by any stretch of the imagination. Its a rock solid highly accurate time tested serviceable mechanical movement. A top grade 7750 alone retails for well over 700 US dollars. To call one of the best mass produced mechanical movements a piece of shit is really a stretch. You guys are jerking each other off over fucking sarb 033 with 6r15's in them and you call a fucking 7750 a piece of shit.. i cant even believe this shit.

>>60901587
>More complex than a 3135
Not really. The silicon hairspring is harder to fabricate but from a service perspective I don't see how it would be any harder to service than the similarly designed 3135.

>Void the warranty
By the time you would need a regular service the warranty would already be over.

>Claim
Why don't we take a quick look around, since you don't want to take my word on what the three watchmakers I know charge for automatic chronograph services?

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/average-service-cost-chronograph-3674914.html

>I know an independent watchmaker in Bellevue, WA who services automatic chronographs for $500.

>$495 in Denver for a Vollmer 7750.

>Swatch Group charges $290 Swiss francs (about $300 USD) for full service of a 7760 chrono.
That's the cheapest price I saw over there and appears to only apply in Europe

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/recommendations-servicing-valjoux-7750-a-944208.html

In this thread it was suggested that a quote of $280 USD to service a 7750 was so cheap that the poster should avoid using that watchmaker!

>Well, 350-500 is a okay price I guess for a valjoux chrono service. If im not wrong a couple of members here have written that their "local" watchmaker even service those cheaper.

Apparently Hamilton's list price of $300 to service a 7750 is the cheapest rate out there.

Now feel free to go find out how many well regarded independent watchmakers charge more than $250 for a regular service on any series produced time/date only movement. The answer will be virtually none.

>>60901866
I work at a jewelry store and Ive left it in my drawer! But ill post it tommorrow with my post # plus timestamp

>>60895156
he's highly regarded because he is a horological genius. he's made one of the first wristwatches with grande sonnerie. also the finishing is unlike anything you've ever seen. he's also very aware of how shit a lot of high end swiss watchmaking has become.

>>60901915
>I mentioned it to him many times.
I know the Tudor has the better movement, but the top-grade 7750 is no slouch, and the price difference makes up for it in a way.
So consider the movement/pricing thing a wash.

So the decision is going to be based on the "personality" of the watch.
i.e.: the Pelagos is rugged and bare (some say almost bland) while the 903 is more intricate (some say almost cluttered).

That's what I want your opinion on, mostly.

>>60901941
>$250 for a regular service on any series produced time/date only movement. The answer will be virtually none.

You stupid motherfucker.
We're talking about a brand fucking new, in house movement here.
You would have to be the buffoon of the century to service that with anyone BUT tudor, if you want to be able to resell that watch.
Why the fuck would you risk someone fucking it up?

The retard wants only 1 watch to last him.
That means that will be running for years straight, meaning regular service.
I'd much MUCH rather deal with servicing a 7750 than tudors highest end movement.

>>60901915
The horizontal clutch on the 7750 makes it inferior to virtually every other automatic chronograph movement ever designed by a production watchmaker.

The following movements are ALL better:
Seiko 613x
Seiko 701x
Seiko 6Sxx
Seiko 8Rxx
Zenith El Primero
Lemania 5100
Lemania 1350
Breitling B01
Frederic Piguet 1185

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>>60887900
What's the best way to removes scuffs and scratches from watch crystal? Polywatch?

>>60902010
>The horizontal clutch on the 7750 makes it inferior to virtually every other automatic chronograph movement ever designed by a production watchmaker.
Yet it's cheap, highly accurate when regulated and is much more rugged than anything you posted other than the lemanias.

also lmao at the early seiko chronos you posted, you know, the ones that are fucked by design.
fuck off idiot

>>60901985
Its totally up to you. Don't listen to any of us Try them both on see which one feels better to you and buy it. Its all meaningless in the end just have fun with what you like. If you are curious as to which i would walk away with out of the two; I would choose the Tudor. It is more interesting to me, I think it looks miles better, and it works in more situations. I would sort of look like a dick wearing a slide rule around all day. Just my opinion if it looks good on you and you don't care just buy it. if you don't want to spend all the money on the Tudor get the watch you like for less.

>>60901721
honestly I like mine pretty tight

>>60902002
>Risk
What risk? As long as you do your research and find an independent with a good reputation, you will no more risk than you would with an AD. Most skilled independents work on literally irreplaceable vintage watches, which are actually much more difficult to work on than straightforward services on a new time/date only three hander.

>>60902041
I hear toothpaste works well

>>60902041
If acrylic yeah.
I don't recall if casio uses mineral glass with those or not.

How the fuck did it get so scuffed up though?

>>60902010
>Seiko 8Rxx
That has a chrono module though.

>>60902041
Those scratches are pretty deep. Polywatch will help, but it probably won't ever look brand new again.

>>60902066
I have personally used toothpaste to great effect. The watch pictured however may need something coarser initially.

>>60902050
Okay, fair enough I should have omitted the 613x but the 701x is literally and unironically a way better design than the 7750.

Also the Lemania 5100 is a spectacular movement that ETA killed because it was cheaper to make 7750s.

>>60902052
>it works in more situations
I was thinking the opposite actually.

>>60902093
Nah, lemania itself stopped supplying.

>>60902064
not the guy youre talking to but I work in jewelry and I would always recommend sending a watch to its original manufacturer for any maintenance you might need.
it costs more and takes more time but the fact of the matter is if they and only they are going to be able to take care of the watch the way it should be.

you wouldent send a rolex to some guy down the street you would send it to rolex.

>>60902097
Totally a personal style thing. If you want my opinion it really seems like you are leaning towards the sinn. You should get the watch that makes you happy. Have you tried both on? I have wanted watches in the past and when i tried them on i never even thought about them again as they just did not work on me.

>>60902082
It's also stupid THICC
This guy doesn't know shit

>>60902119
People send vintage Rolex models to my local watchmaker from thousands of miles away to be worked on. Oh, and he still has a Rolex parts account, so no, I take my Rolex to him for service actually.

Dealing with Independents requires doing your own research into them, of course, but if you are willing to take the time you can find really great people.

>>60902093
>701x
I wouldn't go as far as to say it was a way better design. The 7750 is more accurate at keeping time and is finished better and has better shock protection... which is probably why its still made and the Seiko movement is not.

>>60902124
The LHD has been on my mind ever since it came out, I definitely tend to favor it.

But in the end it is a chunky dive watch, and maybe a little less subtle.

>>60902097
Get a used 903, or better yet, a 104

>>60902112
After ETA bought them, you mean?

>>60902177
I... I don't know.

FUCKING FINALLY

>>60902162
In no way is a pelagos less subtle than a navitimer m8.

>>60902158
well thats their choice. but I still would suggest sending it to the manufacture.

>>60902203
The pelagos is a very thick watch

>>60902193
nice apt

>>60902193
Leaving your address on the screenshot lol

>>60902162
again that is personal I don't think so but its up to your own sense of style

>>60902221
Sure, but the dial being less busy helps.

>>60902193
Nice Address rofl

>>60902203
Welll
The features of the Pelagos (hour markers, bezel inscription, ...) are visible from a mile away; while the fine print on the 903 tends to blend into the dial from a few feet away.

>>60902221
They're actually similar in thickness, but the pelagos is more blocky.

>>60902193
inc swat

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>>60902237
>>60902224
>>60902223
oops
send pizzas pls

I need help finding a leather strap though
Only specifics is sub 25 bucks and it has to be black
I'm partial to the minimal stitching style

>>60888379
Breitling has a cooler logo

>>60902193
lololololololololol

>>60902082
It's a vertical clutch, column wheel, triple hammer reset chronograph. That's just strictly better than the 7750 design.

>>60902144
The 7750 is 7.9mm thick compared to 7.2mm thick for the 8Rxx

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>>60902193
Well, I know where I'm going to be on Friday.

>>60902185
Since you don't know, I'll link you an article so you can do a little reading:

http://chronomaddox.com/nouvelle_lemania_5100.html

>>60902329
its okay we still love you

>>60902351
It was bound to happen, either on here or on /csg/.
Oh well.


>tfw the cheapest strap that colareb makes is still 40 bucks
How do people justify spending this much on cow skin?

Hey Im trying to find a $300 or less watch thats rose gold white dial with a black leather band for ladies any suggestions?

>>60902395
Get a Casio LTP and another 10 bucks for a nicer leather strap

Orient also makes nice ladies watches

>>60902380
What size of strap are you looking for and what color?

>>60902380
because its not low grade genuine leather crap
plus italian leather is a thing

>>60902395
You mean stainless steel i am sure. in that case yes.

May I get an explanation about how the OP's webm is working? I'm not a common lurker of this threads so I know almost nothing. Sorry if I bother you.

>>60902380

Leather is fucking expensive man. You can order a small piece of high quality leather and make your own strap if you have the tools.

>>60902408
thanks man found this one under orient I just was having a hard time finding one that I liked

https://www.amazon.com/Orient-Fashion-Automatic-DB0A002W-Leather/dp/B00E7RVBUK/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1497475377&sr=8-23&keywords=orient+womens+watch

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>>60902438

>>60902423
rose plated but yeah

>>60902458
This is damn awesome. Thanks anon.

>>60902416
Do they last longer?
I mean, at the end of the day won't it just start to fall apart due to humidity and sweat like any other leather strap?
>>60902442
The accutron is a tuning fork regulated movement.
You can see the fork oscillator. A certain number of oscillations is equal to a second.
>>60902411
Black and 22mm. for the victorinox >>60902271

>>60902438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjnVTnuSafg&t=206s

>>60902438
http://electric-watches.co.uk/makers/accutron/accutron-214/

Give this page a read.

>>60902471
yes they should and they should feel nicer too

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>>60902119
Where I can get cheap Seiko Padi Turtle or Samurai blue ?

>>60902576
ONLY buy these of amazon.
That way it's easy to return them if there are QC issues

>>60902585
>QC issues
There are issues with quality?

>>60902612
Probably misaligned bezels or something.

>>60902576
Is there skx with blue like this?

>>60902612
Lume application, bezels, movement could be a shitter.. Honestly these watches only sell because people like buying watches with iso certified cases and 90 percent of watch "collectors" are poor people would would suck your dick if you mentioned seiko positively so they don't feel remorse for horrible decisions.

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>>60902749
I like it also I have that exact band on a old timex hahaha

Ok, so some of you were talking about not letting self winding watches sit.

I was thinking of getting an automatic SARB. Do I really need to get it going everyday?
Or were you guys just fucking around saying shit like you put them on your dog.

>>60902661
Well is there similar and cheaper divers watches? Can you get SKX with similar colors or should I get it pepsi?

>>60902799
Ha nice. I was somewhat skeptical of the band at first, but it looks good with something old.

>>60902811

YOU CANNOT LET THEM SIT. I really do put my watches on my dog when not wearing them. Don't believe anything else you see online.

>>60902811
>Or were you guys just fucking around saying shit like you put them on your dog.

Tell me if you think people were saying they put their watches on dogs in complete earnestness.

Of course it's fine to leave an automatic watch alone for a day. Just be aware of how long the power reserve is for whatever watch in question.

>>60902836
it totally does the blue really pops with the brown leather!

>>60902470
Yeah, they are some of the coolest watches out there. Highly recommend. A real bitch to service though. So, you have to really want one.

Personally I fucking love mine, easily my favorite in my collection.
Even have the original battery, box, case, and user's manual.

>>60902845
idk man this guy replied faster than you he must be right
>>60902837

>>60902837
>>60902845
Obviously the dog bit was a joke, but I meant the basic idea of it.

If I get a watch with a 2 day reserve and I let it sit for a week, is that bad for a watch.
Or simply is it bad for the watch to just sit, with no power, not ticking.

>>60902869
Didn't get dubs though.

>>60902904
>If I get a watch with a 2 day reserve and I let it sit for a week, is that bad for a watch.

No. If you leave it for months on end it might be a good idea to wind it every so often just to get the oils moving.

>>60902811
You might have to reset the time if you let it sit past the length of the power reserve, but other than that. letting it sit unused means the parts aren't moving and wearing out as quickly.

Keeping it on your dog is the safest bet, though.

>>60902904

The dog thing is actually not a joke. Most people just buy watch winder but i only have seiko's and am poor as shit. You must never leave a watch unattended or idle. Idle watches do the devils work (break). That's where the idle hands saying originally came from.

>>60902858
huh I wouldent expect that they would be a bitch to service but man that gold casio looks great.

honestly techmoan sold me on this watch
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEWLETT-PACKARD-HP-01-Led-Watch-Calculator-14k-Gold-Filled-Working-Vintage-/132226151970?hash=item1ec94af622:g:Sn4AAOSwpONZQGU5

His video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGQrsSEaZkI

>>60902929
>you leave it for months on end it might be a good idea to wind it every so often just to get the oils moving.
Why do the oils need to be moving?