/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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That is not RMS in the OP picture, what the fuck

man %command%

No manual entry for %command%

How do I set up a VPN I have paid for on PureOS or really any version of Linux?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6fu9ma/im_matthew_miller_fedora_project_leader_ama/

>>60806451
Install Gentoo

Sell fedora to me.

>>60806481
no

>>60806486
Why

I have appropriate head

>>60806481
see >>60806470

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Running Linux Mint Cinnamon here, I've noticed that over time, cinnamon.exe, which is the desktop environment, starts takes up more and more memory...

And killing it doesn't make it restart automatically. So is there any way to kill it and then restart so it doesn't take up as much memory?

So /g/...
Leah Rowe, would you?

>>60806456
>^f gnu
>0 results
delet

>>60806520
>cinnamon.exe
is this bait?

>>60806234
Install parabola GNU/Linux-Libre and become fully free as in freedom.

>>60806234
there are four essential genders that every programmer should always have

>>60806597
Thoughts on this one? https://www.hyperbola.info/

>The Hyperbola project is a community driven effort to provide a fully free (as in freedom) operating system that is stable, secure, simple, lightweight that tries to Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) under a Long Term Support (LTS) way.

>Derived from Arch GNU/Linux plus stability and security from Debian GNU/Linux, Hyperbola provides packages from it that meet the Free System Distribution Guidelines (FSDG) and replacements for the packages that don't meet this requirement. Packages are provided for the i686 and x86_64 architectures.

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>>60806600
yes

>>60806616
Seems Nice. I might install it when its actually finished.

>>60806616
Is that you emulatorman?

>>60806536
no

>>60806536
Maybe...

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if I want to run linux from ram, how much ram do I need for a 3 GB root?
if I open a program while running linux on ram, does it get copied to the ram again?

is that a grill wtf

>>60806696
install gentoo

any video gamer here? what are you playing right now?

>>60806807
>>>/v/

>>60806481
It's basically a testing branch of RHEL you can beta-test for free

>>60806943
I already work for many people for free already. Jesus

Why can't programs just crash and automagically send every single bit of relevant information to these people

>>60806705

The developmer of Trannyboot.

>>60806939
please, dont do that. I am using my gnu+linux installation to play games. Did you seen that Minecraft just released an update introducing parrots?!

reposting

I currently have arch on my laptop and I want to use distro that "just works". Should I install ubuntu or fedora on this?

>>60806696
Well that really depends on which programs you're going to run. Just test it without ramdisk and add 4GB plank on top of that. Also why do you want to do that? It's not a good solution for a persistent system (i.e. non live-usb). If you want speed just buy a small ssd for your root.

>>60806807
>get a job
>do some sport
>have a social life
>no longer have time for games
/g/ was right, once you grow up you stop playing games.

>>60806705
it still have to be proven

>>60806536
no

>>60806520
>cinnamon.exe
nice.
> is there any way to kill it and then restart so it doesn't take up as much memory?
try alt+f2, type 'r' and press enter to restart it.

>>60806318
I think it's a good thing that people use OP picture to post people that contribute to the open source and free movement so they can have some recognition.
Leah Rowe isn't what I have in mind since all she accomplished was copying stuff and a drama with the FSF

>>60806986
install gentoo

>>60806807
Speedrunners though I only really have fun with friends.

>>60806986
>ubuntu
>just works
It's worse than arch
>fedora
see >>60806943

>>60806986
Ubuntu
Pick a DE you like, get that flavor's LTS, everything just works

>>60807051
make a proper suggestion at least my dude

>>60806234
is there a for-dummies guide for installing a linux distro onto a sd card?

I've found a 64GB SD but need to hang onto windows for uni lol. (VS, etc)

What is the BEST terminal emulator?

I want it:
- fast
- lightweight
- customizeable
- de-independent
- true color support
- fontawesome/emoji support

Does it even exist?

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>>60807287
windows 10? install WSL.

>>60807287
install gentoo

>>60807320
Friendly thread.

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>>60807320
>sudo screenfetch

>>60807320
try

ping 4chan.org

lol

>>60807332
thanks

>>60807352
look closer; they aren't even running screenfetch
>clear; cat fedora.txt

>>60807100
see the pasta in the prevous thread

>>60807305
st.suckless.org

how to
>maybe ffprobe is not the tool

#!/bin/bash
  test=ffprobe "$1" | grep 1080 or '60 fps' (or 59.94 or substitude 5X.YZ somehow?)
    if "$test" == any-of-the-above; then
      mpv --option0 --option1 "$1"
    fi

>>60807378
DELETE THIS!

>>60807396
First off, #!/bin/sh

How to define a variable from command output:
foo="$(command | pipe)"

How to test:

if asking for string
if [ "$foo" = 'benis' ]; then

if asking for integer
if [ "$foo" -eq 1337 ]; then

I'm pretty much new to this shit

Most people I know that know how to make a script always make bash scripts

But what about csh and zsh and all those, when do those become useful?

/faglet/

>>60807031
Hello there! You seem to have used the term "open source".
The term "open source" was created by a group of people that did not want to be associated with the free software movement. When I say "free" software (which is one of the alternatives preferable to "open source"). It's not about price; in that case I would say "gratis", or "free as in free beer". It's about "freedom"! This is what the free software movement is fighting for.
So what is "free" software? Free software is any software that guarantees the user the four essential software freedoms:
> 0. Run the program as you wish.
> 1. Study the source code and change it so it does what you wish.
> 2. Redistribute exact copies of the program.
> 3. Distribute your modified version of the program.
Some people decided that they wanted to restrict the user; but being able to study and modify the "open source" code is not enough! This is directly hurting the cause of the free software movement because it takes away the sociological "freedom" aspect of free software and turns it into a technological one.
So for those reasons I ask that in the future you use the terms "free", "free/libre" or, if necessary "FLOSS" (short for "free/libre and open source"), though the latter should still be avoided.

>>60807499
Those are meme shells.

>>60807499
Since bash is available everywhere, it's just convenient to write bash scripts (or even POSIX sh scripts) so your little programs work on all machines youre working on.

zsh is a good shell, but imho writing zsh scripts make only sense if you write them for yourself (.rc functions, etc).

>>60807499
Your either make shell agnostic scripts usually referred to as "portable" (a VERY good habit) or bash script if for some reason you can't achieve the result you need.
Other interactive shells like zsh are bash-compatible. Without being bash compatibility noone would ever consider using them.

>>60807572
>>60807603
Many thanks, I was wondering.

>>60807603
actually zsh isn't bash compatible
it can emulate ksh, which comes close to bash

>>60807614
anyway, theres nothing stopping you from using zsh as interactive shell and scripting with bash

>>60807572
>is available everywhere,
Is this really a "valid" reason? That's like saying "use Windows, it's the standard". Why not giving shells like zsh a chance to become standard?

>>60807657
muh GNU

Also, bash isn't compareable with malware like Windows, furthermore, there's nothing stopping zsh to take bash's place (at some corners it already did).

>>60807507
Hello there ! I have used the term "open source" because some people creates open source software without using a free software licence. Since those people have made important stuff and have contributed the history of Computer Science

>>60799528
>>60799536
>>60800355
>I downloaded an LTS version of Ubuntu, but don't want to have outdated software. Is there a way to turn LTS Ubuntu into normal Ubuntu? I don't want to reinstall everything, because I just finished setting everything up (installing the programs I need and logging into accounts, networks, etc.).
I found out why the update didn't work.

When you have the LTS version, you have to go to the update center and change checking for updates from only checking for LTS releases to checking for any release.

Thank you for posting the upgrade command. A normal version is installing right now.

>>60807719
Greetings, friend! It seems that you are unfamiliar with the text I posted previously, and that you seem to be confused by what I was trying to express with it. Allow me to clarify:
The Open Source Movement split off from the Free Software Movement and, in rejecting Software Freedoms 0, 2 and 3, pretend that software freedom is a technological issue rather than an ethical one. This is simply untrue and directly hurts the cause of the Free Software Movement. As the Free Software Movement strives to better society and its use of software, the Open Source Movement is in opposition to freedom and therefore subjugates its users just as any other proprietary software does -- except unlike the publishers of fully nonfree, closed-source software, it pretends to be fighting for the good of the people and their freedom. The Open Source Movement is a hypocritical, malicious and misleading organization worse than the likes of Microsoft or Apple and should be shunned at every opportunity. Therefore, it is imperative that we do not use the term "open source" and instead call it what it is: proprietary, nonfree, user-subjugating malware!

>>60807793
>>60807719
so what triggered the filter?

Is there a stallman version of the liberal muslim homosexual ACLU lawyer professor copypasta?

>>60807657
Because zsh is BLOAT and not needed by anyone.

When I first installed Ubuntu, I was greeted with a panel listing useful hotkeys. Is there a way to bring this panel up again?

>>60808032
Long-press tab or super or something.

>>60808032
Hold the super key. Or windows key if you call it that.

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>have a VPS
>running real well, pretty low price too
>"hmm, paying two times per month is not convenient. why don't i pay for 3 months in advance?"
>pay 3 months in advance

>a week later their whole network and website are down
>no ping to the server for 16 hours and counting
>no notice or anything

>my backups are quite old

i fucked up.

anons, recommend a VPS provider with a reasonable ~4$/mo option and either Arch Linux or arbitrary ISO installation.

>>60808062
prq
leaseweb

>>60807305

Every terminal emulator fits that description.

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What rss reader do you guys use/recommend?

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> Where in the world is Richard Stallman?

Jun 09, 2017 07:00 PM Buenos Aires, Argentina Event Richard Stallman - "Copyright vs Comunidad" (Buenos Aires, Argentina)
Jun 12, 2017 05:00 PM San Salvador de Jujuy, Argentina Event Richard Stallman - "Copyright vs Comunidad" (San Salvador de Jujuy, Argentina)
Jun 13, 2017 06:00 PM Salta, Argentina Event Octet Stream Richard Stallman - "El software libre y tu libertad" - Salta, Argentina
Jun 19, 2017 07:30 PM Brasilia, Brazil Event Octet Stream Richard Stallman - "Copyright vs. Community" (Brasilia, Brazil)
Jul 02, 2017 08:00 PM Saint-Etienne, France Event Richard Stallman - "Logiciel Libre: La clé de ta liberté et ta vie privée quand tu utilises les ordinateurs et les téléphones" (Saint-Etienne, France)
Jul 03, 2017 02:00 PM Saint-Etienne, France Event Richard Stallman - "Logiciel Libre: ce que le programmeur doit savoir" (Saint-Etienne, France)
Sep 07, 2017 06:00 PM Chicago, IL Event object code Richard Stallman to speak in Chicago, IL

>>60808246
>no shoes

Really wish'd I didn't miss his speech at my city. ;_;

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>>60807784
Now the keyboard AND mouse of the Thinkpad X200 stopped working and I can't even login anymore.

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>>60808246
>buenos aires, argentina

Is zsh for faggots only?

>>60808300
Whats that phallic tower?

>>60808085
prq is so fucking expensive, and they don't even offer any VPSs.
leaseweb doesn't look that bad.

>>60808313
nothing your ass wouldn't know.

>>60808313
zsh is nice, oh-my-zsh is for (mac)fags

zsh got a pretty bad reputation because it's mostly used by macfags (macOS ships a very outdated version of GPLv2 bash) and for some reason people install zsh instead and blog about how great it is compared to bash (it actually really has some nice features, but most stuff can be done with bash too), then GNU/Linux users find these blogs and blindly install it because its what the cool guys use without even knowing anything beyond ls and cat, which makes zsh users just look as bad as arch users.

tl;dr zsh = Arch, the shell, it's good enough when you actually know what you are doing

>>60806986
Install Solus. Trust me, it's amazing. Not many packages at the moment but the repos are slowly expanding. It just werks, it's fast af and it's built from scratch. Also it comes with a slick Budgie DE.

>>60808398
>It just werks
instantly dropped

>>60808405
But that's what the anon wanted.

>>60808309
everything the other guy uses is for fags

>not using fish

>>60807719
>pajet certified

>>60808398
How does Solus come with only 500 packages fresh installed? Ubuntu fresh install is around 1700 and Arch is around 700.

What are they leaving out?

>>60808386
I have no idea how i would configure everything that oh my zsh does in bash.
what advantage is there to using bash and writing a huge-ass .bashrc as opposed to installing zsh and running the oh-my-zsh script besides e-peen?

Who runs the wiki?

It seems to be down.

>>60808398
Since he's asking for a laptop, what about battery life?

Because a common problem that I have with loonix distros on my chinkpad is poor battery life.

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>>60808547

up for me

>>60808062
vnpht

>>60808299
must be udev or xorg input drivers

>>60808547
it was under poo
see history

>>60808535
>What are they leaving out?
Bloat.

The system itself is tiny and you only get about a dozen programs installed. You get a file explorer, browser, and a couple other basic tools, you download everything else you need.
You also don't get any compilers and stuff like that.

>>60808567
It's actually really good. It really doesn't use a lot of resources and it's optimized pretty well. My chinkpad usually gets about an hour of battery on linux but with Solus I had about 30-40 minutes more.

Also the shutdown time on Solus is insane. It powers off in under a second after you press 'shutdown'.

>>60808535
it depends how the packages are made. for example - in arch, 1 package contains the libraries, executables, dev headers and some other things within it, but ubuntu splits them up, so libs come in 1 package, the binary comes in another, dev headers in another etc, so ubuntu looks like it has more software than arch but it's the same.

>>60808537
For example?

>>60808631
ignoring case for auto completion

the way auto completion is handled in zsh+omz in general is rather comfy once you get used to it

>>60808648
So what you are saying is basically: I'm too lazy to read documentations, instead I just use the framework?

>>60808661
yes.
unless you state some reasons why a configured bash is better than zsh+omz i am too lazy to read bash documentation.

>>60808681
Well, fair enough.

Anyone a rofi user here?

I'm trying to get it to work with my zsh aliases/functions.
However, this requires a script to print all the function names, and I can't get that to work.
If I put e.g. 'alias' in the terminal, it prints all aliases, but if I put it in a .sh file it does jack shit.

Any ideas?

can someone explain me this syntax?
int (*array)[n] = malloc(sizeof(int[m][n]));
Is this allocated only or heap or also on stack ?

>>60808568
>when the boomer welfare state kicks in

>>60808593
An hour? Is your battery really performing that badly? Damn.

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>>60807031
>she

>>60808822
>rofi
>zsh
kill yourself you colossal faggot

>>60808577
>must be udev or xorg input drivers
How can I fix them, if I can't do... anything, without a mouse and keyboard?

>>60808062
edis.at
box.cock.li if it is still alive

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Hey!

I have a AMD 970 chipset mobo (Gigabyte GA-970-UD3P) and I've been having some issues with GNU/Linux recently.

No matter which kernel version I run, the system will freeze. I've tried numerous "fixes" but none helped, my PC keeps crashing under Linux after 10-15 minutes of use, but sometimes it's less and sometimes it's more (last time I managed to get an uptime of 1h 5min before the system crashed). With crash, I mean the whole system locks up and doesn't respond for anything and I need to reboot it. I can't seem to find any logs or whatsoever after it either. I use i3 and Arch.

When I'm on Vindoze, none of this happens. Anyone with similar experience?

Any help is appreciated, thanks!

>>60809167
there's 1 word in your post which explains everything
>arch

>>60809187
Oh I'm sorry I didn't mention it but I tried Fedora, Solus, Xubuntu and Manjaro as well, but they had the same problem so I decided to stick to Arch because it's a distro I'm used to.

>>60806234
https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjaro-openrc/
Is this thing git gud?

>>60809002
I got a t420s, 's' meaning it's slimmer but has shit battery as a result.
It was cheap tho.

>>60809187
This is a friendly thread; feel free to provide help, if you can't don't post.

>>60809387
manjaro is never "gud"

Is there any way to play flash games online with Linux.

>>60809101
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/ubuntu

>>60809167
rip hw

>>60809387
maybe but you have to remember it's a hobbyist distribution

>>60809753
install the flash player maybe?

>>60809767
It's that easy?
I just get The Flash Player(tm) and it happens?

>>60809428
My t420 barely gets half an hour on arch.

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Don't forget to update.

>>60809797
yes.

-most distros have a flash player installer in their repos
-you can manually download and install the latest flash from adobe.com/go/getflashplayer, both the PPAPI and the NPAPI version

I don't see why any other/extra steps would be necessary.

>>60809831
And if I want to play the game offline I just extract the flash game's file from the site?

>>60806481
> strong security focus (unless you prescribe to systemd paranoia)
> dnf's dependency management is very good in my experience
> sane defaults with the possible exception of the font rendering, which is easily fixed
> Bleeding edge without the autism
> gnome on wayland is nice

>>60809797
>>60809753
pepper flash

>>60807441
thank you desu got this to work but it's kinda crude
any tips to improve?

#!/bin/sh

  size="$(ffprobe -v error -show_streams -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=width:stream_tags=0:stream_disposition=0 -of default=nw=1:nk=1 "$1")"
  fps="$(ffprobe "$1" 2>&1 | grep ",* fps" | cut -d "," -f 6 | cut -c 2-3)"

    if [ "$size" -eq 1920 -a "$fps" -eq 59 ]; then
      echo fhd@60
    elif [ "$size" -eq 1280 -a "$fps" -eq 59 ]; then
      echo hdready@60
    else
      echo meh
    fi

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/FFprobeTips

>>60809803
do you have tlp?

>>60809753
Don't use flash on GNU/Linux. It's malware.

>>60809753
>flash games
what are you, 12?
when are you, 2008?

>>60809912
>kids who were 12 in 2008 have been allowed to post on 4chan for 3 years

>>60809912
I sorta feel like I'm in '08.
I just found an old game I liked and thought about saving it for the future as a playable file.
Please don't get mad at me for this.

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>>60809961

>>60807320
Can this thing actually do smth other than """screenfetch"""?

>>60809965
try Gnash or Lightspark, which can play flash stuff, there are also browser plugins

>>60809912
Flash on GNU/Linux is a big problem for /f/ weebs tho. Dropping flash also means dropping games/animations.

>>60810033
thats what happens when you don't boycot it soon enough
>Dropping flash also means dropping games/animations.
see >>60810003

>>60808300

Looks like a shittier Madrid. I'd be okay with that if it weren't located so remotely from all the relevant parts of the world.

>>60809428
>>60809803
shit mine is t410s
fucked up a number
Idk about 420 but I don't think it should be that low
Maybe the battery is just old.

>>60809961
>kids born in 2000 will be allowed in a year

>>60810205
but let's not kid ourselves, kids born in 2000 have been posting on the chins for a couple of years now.

>>60807287
Just use fs2fs for root, try to find any squashfs compatible utils... i.e configs hosted on the f2fs dirs, base root packages on a squashfs, extra utils on another f2fs partition. ai've never done it before, but you've given me the inspiration to try. Might end up fabricating my own distro for that purpose, SD friendly sys as optimized as possible. Thanks anon

If anyone is good with VPN stuff, i'd like a bit of help.

I need a simple one-liner for connecting to a random PIA VPN so I can add it to my .xinitrc and to add a hotkey in my .i3/config.

Does anyone know how to do this?

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So whenever I'm on my campus wifi, it stops working half way through and I Have to disconnect, reconnect, and then it works for another few minutes before it stops working again. It isn't like this on my home network.

I don't really know where I would begin to troubleshoot this or what on my system I should look into. I feel that it has something to do with weird authentication issues, but I've already logged in to hte network in the past Any suggestions on where to start?

>>60810225
Hiroshima Nagasaki can just add a credit card age validation and only allow 4chan+ users to access posts.

>Intel Celeron Processor N2820 1M Cache, 2.19 GHz
>4 Gb ram

what version of ubuntu would work best for my setup?
PS: it's a lenovo laptop

>>60810380
Just use BTRFS with compression.

>>60810573
xubuntu best ubuntu
XFCE runs on anything.

>>60810573
lubuntu or xubuntu
whatever you fancy really

>>60810573
I run xubuntu with 2GBs of RAM and 1.44GHz on a Toshiba shitbox.
It werks
I think most shit would work on your powerhouse.

>>60810585
>BTRFS
Is BTRFS actually usable now or is ZFS on Linux still better?

>>60810501
But that would alienate those who don't use the plastic Jew.

>>60810665
*** Do not talk to tripfag. ***

rms says: don't be tracked; pay cash
now, when it comes to online stuff, what do?
how can I buy stuff online anonymously?
should I fall for the internet currency meme?
redpill pls

>>60810795
It's your choice between freedom and convenience.

>>60810819
Oh but anon, I get free shipping with Amazon.

Guys I'm desperate.

I'm trying to work on an init script for my company. Here's it's structure:
- Init script launches daemon start script
- daemon start script sets up the shell as the daemon's user
- daemon start script and creates a log file
- daemon start script runs 'exec starter >>& $log &' where starter is a binary that links to a few libraries then launches the actual daemon's executable.

I know it gets to the point where it creates the log file, right before launching the starter, but that's all I know. There is nothing in the log whatsoever. I know the log is created because it's empty and its modified date matches my boot time. I know the process has write access to the log because I explicitly made its filemode 777. I know the script, in theory, is supposed to work, because if I do service servicename start, it actually fucking mother fucking works. But for some reason, it never fucking works on boot, and it doesn't write anything to the log when it fails, so I have no idea why.

Can someone help? Thanks.

>>60810795
bitcoin is actually becoming a normal thing nowadays

>>60810850
I have no idea what you're talking about; I didn't even read the full text, but
>exec starter >>& $log &
doesn't look right
If you want to append what starter outputs to $log, try this:
exec starter >> "$log" &

>>60810902
That's in csh. In csh, >>& appends both stdout and stderr to the target file.

>>60810914
Ayy, I see. My condolences.

>>60810996
Does you server have its nfs export configured with lock? If so, it won't allow for more than one client at a time. Try putting nolock as an option and see if that makes a difference. Or disable your server's firewall, see if that makes a difference.

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Can anyone explain why my NFS server is suddenly rejecting one of my computers from connecting? It was working fine a few days ago and I didn't change any of the settings on either.

Here's what happens when I try to mount from pain

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>>60811036
And here it his from my zenbook

>>60811031
It wasn't configured with lock, I used to be able to access from simultaneously from multiple computers. This is all on lan, not sure why the firewall would decide to get in the way now.

>>60811074
The NSA is pirating your NFS server. Wait one day, they'll have copied everything they need and they will give you back your server.

>>60810585
Ey, you're jordan, right? Anyways - can you point-by-point compare (in terms of nand life) Btrfs to F2FS? Maybe touch on why squashfs is a bad idea or if it's just useless or whatever, too

>>60811036
>>60811074
Suggestion: -s when screenshotting. I don't think people will care if they can't clearly see the thumbnail contents. seriously there is no reason to waste all that space with a black rectangle

>>60804862
you know openbox can already do this?

    <keybind key="W-Alt_L">
      <action name="ToggleDecorations"/>
    </keybind>
    <keybind key="W-Alt_R">
      <action name="ToggleDecorations"/>
    </keybind>

>>60810795
For anything normal and legal, just use your card. While I understand stallmans worries, I honestly think banks don't care.

>>60810795
This is not the concern of someone who has real life stuff going on.

>>60811083
Well, looks like the NSA is done pirating my server since it decided to work again for reasons unknown.

>>60810795
prepaid credit card

>>60808568
the debt doesn't have to be paid back

>>60810474
your IT department is incompetant, you have to go to then

>>60811286
Of course, they're here to serve and protect, no to piss off people.

>>60811286
Jokes aside, that could have been true.

>>60811363
>>60811361
I guess this is what I get for sending PGP encrypted emails through cock.li and using Tor.

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Friendly reminder.
Upgrade your kernel to v4.11.4 and do not forget to verify the signature.

>>60811194
That's terrible advice. It's basically the "nothing to hide" mentality. If we don't use our privacy for inane shit we won't have any left for critical shit, because it will have become associated with crime and outlawed.

>>60810795
Personally, I haven't mulled over this area of privacy much, but I have in the past paid for online purchases by deposit. The website gives you an account number and a code, you head over to the ATM, insert money, type code. Beats credit card I guess and I'd expect more shops to support this than bitcoin.

>>60811407
Why?

>>60811440
Because. I won't explain why you must use updated softwares.

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>>60811361
Gee, ...

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>>60806234
ewww i hate when those freaks just find any excuse to expose themselves like the attention whores they are, i really dont care who wrote the code but those faggots thinks this is like the media and try to push their stupid ideas and mental illness wich are totally irrelevant to the tech field, its not like anybody says "im a straight man and i koding this shit"

>>60808300
all that white people

>>60811346
>the debt doesn't have to be paid back

Greece pls.

eeepc poster here. id like to remote view other computers (mostly laptops with broken screens) with my eeepc via ethernet cord. is there a standard way to do this for gnulinux/mac/windows or am i looking at 3 seperate solutions?

>>60811407
>kernel
You mean Linux? Just say Linux when you mean Linux.

>>60811764
but this allows room for interjections
even if it isnt valid

>>60811567
>random tech celeb appears
>doesn't give a fuck
>tranny tech celeb appears
>reeeee, why are trannies such atttention whores!

>>60811785
Trannies are by definition attention whores. They wouldn't want to become women if it didn't give them any attention.

>>60811664
VNC.

Numerous servers and clients are available for both platforms, they usually work with each other.

>>60811764
Please tell me about linux updates.
How do I get them and why?

>>60811802
this x100

>>60811764
The Linux kernel shares the same name with the Linux desktop system (just like the BSD kernel shares the same name with the BSD desktop system).

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>>60811862
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>60811891
why is he so picky

>>60811891
post moar cat ears stallmans

>>60811169

It can't do it dynamically. I don't want to do that every time I maximize a window. I want it to happen automaticalyl when a window is maximized.

>>60811891
This is my favorite /fglt/ pasta.

>>60811917
That's actually just copypasta from here: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.en.html#afterkernel

>>60811898
Autism + cosmic levels of butthurt because no one likes saying Gah-noo.

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>>60811939
Jesus christ, this site is a goldmine!

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>>60811940

>>60811898
Because he wants to make people aware of the orgin, history and purpose of the GNU system; freedom. Nowadays many people join the "Linux" community for the practical benefits, but nobody is teaching them about freedom, which is what the community is built on. In fact, the free software idealism is the engine that made the whole thing even possible - but when you look at our community today, very little people care about freedom; they buy terms like "open source", companies stuff money into the Linux foundation and Canonical and people get angry when $random_proprietary_program doesn't have a linux-port. It's going downhill. Saying "GNU/Linux", makes people aware of GNU, they may browse the website, make their minds, approve or disapprove.
I don't think that credit is what rms is about, even if it would be a legit request.

>>60808191
pls respond

>>60812207
True. I was annoyed at the whole GNU/Linux naming thing but the deeper I went into the whole story it made more sense.
The thing is, GNU did start the whole open source, free software thing. The GNU project is the core of the whole mentality that drove the free software to where it is now. If there was no GNU, Linux would still be there but would probably get used for another propertiary OS (kinda like what Android did).
I understand why he insists on calling it GNU/Linux even if most of the software on it isn't made by GNU, but GNU is not just programs, it's the mentality and philosophy that every other FOSS developer followed.

That being said, yeah, GNU/Linux is a shit name but it's the best there is if you want to give respect to the GNU project and its values.

If you want a more indepth story of GNU, Linux, and the open source community, watch this movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw8K460vx1c

>>60812292
I dare say more. Now, I haven't researched this and I'm basically pulling it out of my ass, but it is my impression that without the legal precedent of free software we wouldn't have the free culture movement either, or at least not in such a strong and mature state. Would we have wikipedia or creative commons without this folk-dancing autist?

>>60812292
>I was annoyed
same here

>GNU
>wtf, why jumping through hoops, i want it just werk, also stop interjcting faglords
but when I went down the rabbit hole and got it

>systemd
>wtf, its free software, how can it be harmful? gtfo with your "look I'm tech literate" memes
but when I went down the rabbit hole and got it

>>60812342
good movie, informative and neutral overview

>>60812396
>le systemd is bad meme
reddit

someone post the devuan talk (which pretty much redpilled me) for this guy >>60812429

>>60812388
Maybe we would but in a different form, for sure.

>>60812396
>>60812429
I never understood the systemd thing.
Is it bad because it's so huge and everything is handled by one program so it's harder to replace individual modules if one of them fail or something like that?

>>60812464
the problem with systemd isn't systemd itself, basically

the problem is that programs should work with ANY init system, but the wide acceptance of systemd (which is more a community problem) leads to development of programs that depend on systemd, so, if you want to ran program x, you NEED systemd
this pretty much kills the whole diversity and flexibility of gahnoo/lunix
furthermore, (thats just my very own opinion) it gives a single company too much power over the systems future (red hat already owns a lot of kernel development, audio, security, ...)

>>60812513
lol nice thats impressive
how'd you do that

>>60812526
>which is more a community problem
At some point systemd developers actually asks programmers to "fix" their programs by adding a systemd dependency (see tmux).

>>60812556
sauce?

>>60812526
Oh so basically it's like on Android where everything depends on Google Apps services so you cannot use your phone without Gapps even if you have alternative 3rd party app stores.
Or like if you couldn't use GNOME apps on DEs other than GNOME.

You're right, that is a bit worrying.

I'm fairly new to linux and I've come across a problem while trying to dual boot windows on my old laptop. First I had Antergos running on it and I ran a live usb to split a partition into a new one using gparted, everything worked out. Then I installed windows into the new partition and it boots into windows just fine though I can't choose whether to boot linux or windows (guessing grub got overwritten) And lastly I tried to fix grub, I ran a live Antergos usb again hoping to fix it through the terminal but gparted lists the old linux partitions having a weird paper with an X icon. I can't even run pacman getting input output errors. Are the partitions corrupted? If so what should I do? I've tried googling for answers but all I come up with is a bunch of Ubuntu related problems that get fixed with their own live usb fixing tool.

Did I make a dumb mistake along the way?

>>60812429
>>60812460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvyOGawNwo

>>60812513
sounds like bait, in case of not:

kldload snd_driver

>>60812602
Windows is a faggot and tries to make it hard for you to dual boot if you install it after Linux. Easiest way to fix is to install Antergos again over the previous Antergos install.

>>60812241
pls dont tell me noboy ITT is reading rss feeds

>>60812666
Why, satan? /g/ is enough. If something REKT is going on, /g/ surly will post it.

>>60812666
I use Akregator, Satan.

>>60812666
I use Thunderbird for both Email and RSS because I am a faggot.

Liferea is also a nice one.

today i will remind them

https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/biography-of-a-cypherpunk-and-how-cryptography-affects-your-life/

beware the redhat shill

>>60812666
firefox addon: brief

>>60812817
>>60812790
>>60812691
thanks honeys, will look into these

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How to find a cute GNU/Linux/gf (feminine benis acceptable)? Does /fglt/ socialize somewhere at some place I don't know about?

best terminal emulator?

>>60813039
>feminine penis
Just go to gay clubs, homo.

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What the the best "black" background color (in HEX-decimal)?

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>>60813119
What I leanred when ricing:

- never use full black: #000, instead use a warmer black, starting with #0a0a0a to #111
- never use full white: #fff, instead use a warmer white, starting with #efefef, #ddd is just perfect, down to #ccc, #c0c0c0

tl;dr try #111

>>60813095
xfce4-terminal best terminal

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>>60813115
I'm not into men.

>>60813156
>#0a0a0a
Just perfect, thanks.

>>60813039
You don't
You find a submissive gf and teach her the FSF way.

>>60813220
this

>>60813156
>never use full white
lower your monitors brightness instead

>>60813119
000000FF

>>60813237
>This site is best viewed with Internet Explorer 5.0 and monitor brightness 8.0

>>60813119
The one I'm using.

>>60813283
holy kek, LOST
>>60813156
good advice tbqh faem

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>>60813267
I miss these sites.

Who will be ne next OP GNU+Linux celeb?

>>60813337
no other than linux sebastian the inventor of the linux operating system

>>60813337
Linux Techtips

>>60813337
>all OP celebs so far have been freaks in some way
>killed someone else
>killed hinself
>tranny
I vote for ESR: Guns + Open Source.

>>60813398
found the murifat

>>60813360
upvoted for the lulz

>>60813337
No panic; you'll be satisfied with the next one.

how do i make bash behave like zsh

>>60813929
You run zsh.

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>new qt5 update
>previously stable KDE apps are now unstable

Some times I wonder if the bleeding edge life is really worth it.

>>60813948
zsh is for macfags

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>>60813446
>upvoted
>>>/r/eddit

>>60814011
posts like this make me want to leave /g/

>>60814038
>t. pleb

>>60813929
What specifical features do you miss in bash?

>>60806234
who is this semen demon

Is there a way to make wget forcefully overwrite a file in case it was already downloaded?

When a file aleady exists, it will get clobbered (file.1 file.2, etc).

When I enable -nc (no clobber), and the file already exists, wget just does nothing.

That's where I am so far, couldn't find something in the manual, maybe too dumb?

>>60814069
Decent completion.

>>60814091
http://vimuser.org/

>>60811802
>by definition

what kind of definition?

the urge to become wombyeneneny'st'd've comes from the illness itself

kinda odd to say it's a mental illness but also say it's just a thing they do for attention at the same time

>>60814100
install gentoo

>>60814104
Could you rephrase your question?

I have been using Arch exclusively for about 4 years however recently Ive been having problems with my gaming addiction specifically Dota 2 on steam game is crashing for no obvious reason and bugs on github are being closed as nonreproducable.My drive is divided 2 partions one for system and other for storage both ext4 I was thinking about dualbooting win7 to check if problems are with my hardware but I dont know if ita possible without ruining my 2nd partition with my media storage

Inb4 /v/

>>60814127
I would just like to interject for one moment. The operating system you are suggesting for me to install, and rather commandingly might I add, will in fact, not directly solve my current problem at hand, and will actually cause me to ask further questions about the difficult process involved in installing it. Gentoo is a very nice operating system itself, but I'd rather you directly assist me in my quest to solve my current predicament.

I understand that many computer users run the Gentoo Linux operating system, and I realize they may enjoy it greatly and are not currently experiencing the current problem that I have whilst using my non-Gentoo operating system. Through a peculiar turn of events, I have noticed an enormous amount of users make the "Install Gentoo" suggestion, but many of its users are not aware that this suggestion, in most cases, is actually not an "easy-fix" to every single computer-related error.

There really are reasons for installing Gentoo, and there are people using it, but it is just for the few users who choose to compile their own source code locally according to their chosen configuration. Gentoo is just another operating system: the problems I am experiencing will not undeviatingly be solved if I make the choice to install it. All these so-called "Install Gentoo" suggestions I am noticing should cease immediately.

>>60814145
>I have been using Arch exclusively for about 4 years
Cool.

>>60814139
zsh has no decent completion. Just insane completion. It's a pain to use it. Each time I press tab I cry with zsh.

>>60814145
So make a third partition?

>>60814100
wget can't do that unless you use wget -O, which overwrites the file

>>60814155
nice pasta

>>60814214
>-O
So simple, I really feel stupid. Thanks man.

>>60814237
thats why we're here

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>>60814237
>To make you feel stupid.

just discovered sxiv

why is feh so popular when it can't even display gifs?

>>60814330
because it's the only program that carelessly about the window managere, forcefully, rough, sets your wallpaper so it just works

I have Gentoo on my desktop. Can I install Windows 10 on an external hard drive without it fucking up my gentoo installation?

>>60814344
>what is hsetroot

>>60814330
feh really needs gif support
I've been hating on feh for a long time since I couldn't find any use for it other than setting a wallpaper, but when you start scripting it, you know wha feh is really cool.

>>60814358
No. Windows will fuck you, period. Don't use Windows.

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>>60814388
but I got a lot of games gifted to me on steam

>>60814368
You really should learn a bit LUA and start scripting mpv. I use it for music, videos, images. Gif, webm, right here.

where is the solarized-electron-nodejs-image-viewer-appimage?

>>60814410
Only way you can do it without fucking up your grub or whatever is to disconnect your internal hard drives when you're installing Windows on the external drive and boot into windows from the BIOS instead of grub. Otherwise Windows will fuck everything up so you can only boot into Windows.

>>60814542
Friendly thread.

>>60814542
Wow. That is absolutely not fucking true.

You just have to boot from a live CD and reinstall Grub from there.

>>60814549
>>60814555
but he's right, why risk it

>>60814508
https://sachinchoolur.github.io/lightgallery-desktop/

>>60814577
what the actual fuck man, I was joking, what the fuck is happening, jesus fucking christ

>>60814570
You stallman drones have the whole rest of the board to sperg out the way you're doing right now. Can't you stay away from one thread?

>>60814555
I'm having trouble following your logic. You say it's not true that Windows fucks up your grub then on the very next line imply that it does fuck up your grub and you state that it has to be reinstalled it from a live CD.

>>60814600
I read his post too fast. I thought he was suggesting to always keep his Linux driver disconnected or something or Windows was going to find the first opportunity to erase Grub after installation.

>>60814555
>>60814600
Yeah I'm generally trying to avoid this. Don't want to have to fix something that Windows broke.

>>60814595
>>60814577
>>60814508
https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript

>>60814577
this is literally the 40mb hello world the prophets spoke of

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Wait, wait... what the fuck? Windows 10 can still fuck up grub on a dual boot if I install my Linux distro after?

>>60814778
No.

>>60814778
No, it fucks it up if you install Windows after

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im gonna time this

>>60814821
>>60814851
Oh okay. Thanks.

>>60814883
>920,535KiB
that download would take ~ 1hour with my internet connection

>>60814942
Would take like 3 minutes on mine

>>60814942
should take ~ 19 minutes at 1Mib/s

>>60814883
time the size of my dick

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>>60814955
>>60814969
im totally not jealous

>>60815006

time echo "the size of my dick"
the size of my dick

real    0m0.000s
user    0m0.000s
sys     0m0.000s

notably quick

>>60808568
What is this supposed to mean? The debt doubled every eight years. During democrats and republicans governments.

>>60815023
>google spys on you from your android phone @ ~250kb/s
how do you even upload files

New thread: >>60815099

What fonts do you guys install on a fresh Arch installation for maximum Unicode support?

>>60815133
on a fresh arch installation I usually run wget in order to download debian

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>>60815133
Not trolling, nowadays I just go with noto-all (or whatever it's called in Arch)

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>>60815173

>>60815173
>simple and lightweight
>install a 500mb font package
arch users ...

>>60814596
>>>/v/
back you go

>>60815133
>third world languages

>>60815344
We're not discussing games, we're discussing boot loaders.