/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Was about to make this, thanks anon.

How do i fix my third mouse button (scroll wheel click) so that when i click it i get free scroll or whatever its called.

how do i add my windows install to the initial choices in grub. Do i need to edit the actual install drive because it needs to be able to work without grub i think.

Current set up for clarification
1 HDD with Debian
1 SSD with windows 8

GIMP sucks for tablet input jesus, I'd be better off using WinE with photoshop cs3

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Friendly reminder that GNU/Linux on desktop is trash and will remain trash forever.

https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html

>>60580911
about:config
general.autoScroll true

>>60580960
>Posting that meme website
You're like the guy who posts that anti-BSD troll website in every BSD general.

>>60580960
>>>/v/

>>60580960
Cool

>>60580965
thanks, but what about in the system? is it possible for the file explorer

@@60580960
i hate to give you a you so i wont, but wow gnnu linux has over 9000 games??

>>60580960
wtf I hate the GNU operating system with Linux added as its kernel now

>>60580970
what's the address of that website?

>>60581029
kek

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My ISP blocked an IP that I connect to often. How do I add a system-wide proxy for it?

I have a SOCKS 5 proxy running, I guess I want to redirect all the traffic through that.

>>60581009
Yes but it still does miss a lot of great games. Many games are not available despite these being made with a cross-platform engine. The devs just don't care about gnu+linux.

>>60581077
And your point is...

Is there no choice but Unity if I want a decent HiDPI support? Literally every other DE is crap in that regard, MATE and XFCE only scale text and not UI elements, GNOME and Cinnamon can only be scaled by integer numbers (ie. 2, I need like 1.4-1.6).
KDE is somewhat decent in terms of scaling, but KDE is too buggy for me.

>>60581077
Modern western games are trash and eastern games work fine in wine or in a VM.

>>60581077
probably because they end up using dx11 or something like that? Ive used cry unreal and unity for developement so i know they all run fine on linux. Its a sad thing that only indies give a shit. Its all indie games making up that 9500 anyway, isnt it?

>>60581077
Here's a quick tutorial on how to make game devs care about GNU/Linux:

· Stop using Windows.

>>60580933
A quick and dirty method:

1. go to /etc/grub.d
2. rename the os-proper script link so it will be above the linux one

examples:
before
10-header
20-debian-header
30-linux
40-os-proper

after
10-header
20-debian-header
25-os-prober
30-linux

>>60581116
reminds me at the tutorial on how to make hardware manufracters deliver free drivers

>>60581105
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#Cinnamon
i use cinnamon at 2k, so not 4k and it looks fine

>>60581141
Exactly.

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thoughts on systemd?

>>60581151
So it has more granular control now? It didn't last time I checked.

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>>60581088
That... linux has failed? Do you guys still believe in the "year of linux desktop"?

>>60581107
Please, don't say that, we had great game these last years. Even the amateur game development scene is avoiding linux like plague.

>>60581113
Yes, mostly amateurs.

>>60581116
I am not using windows but i enrage to not be able to play great games like GTA5

The last thing that saddened me: cemu is windows only (and closed source).

>>60581107
nier?

>>60581116
slow but slow, you can see even valve wanted a push away from windows, but the issue still remains compatability with windows programs that dont run under wine and the general lack of drm on gnu/linux

>>60581129
your description of quick and dirty worries me, but is it fine with no reprocussions?

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>>60581185
>linux has failed
>has
this bait is to fucking thick

>>60581185
I believe in the year of the wayland desktop.

>>60580960
>>60581185
(((Linux))) and (((free software))) is just (((communist))) trash that wants everyone to work for free.

>>60581190
>slow but slow, you can see even valve wanted a push away from windows, but the issue still remains compatability with windows programs that dont run under wine and the general lack of drm on gnu/linux

Did you see that Valve dropped amd for mesa?

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/steamos-updated-valve-drops-amdgpu-pro-for-mesa.9712

>>60581190
>your description of quick and dirty worries me, but is it fine with no reprocussions?

Yes. I consider this dirty because 1. there is a grub-setdefault command which is however not convenient to use 2. updating grub/os-prober/base OS layout packages might either revert the order or duplicate entries.

You can revert the naming order back to the original, run update-grub2 (or grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg) and everything is back as it was before.

>>60580885
How has installing Linux changed your work flow? Has it improved it? I am considering to install Arch since i have before just to test it out, however this time i am considering to go balls deep.

>>60581247
Wow, (((free software))) works so well valve is dropping it.

>>60581261
install gentoo, don't be a pussy

>>60581289
You are using the meme incorrectly. Software can't be jewish.

>>60581334
It's jewish when promoted by a jew and comes with a jewish ideology.

>>60581334
>Software can't be jewish
...yet. Give it a couple more decades of AI research.

>>60581240
In 2012, Zed Shaw predicated that the all the big corporations like Microsoft, Apple, IBM, Oracle, ... will corrupt the free software movement by embracing it widely as a way to enslave programmers. For them, free software does mean free pulling requests where the programmer is paid only with gratifications, victories in ego wars, and some other kinds of shit. Time proven him right.

>>60579701
Bump for please help me

>>60581185
>That... linux has failed? Do you guys still believe in the "year of linux desktop"?
i was with you on most of your other points but linux hasnt failed. only the linux desktop has, and even then its "failure" has about 60 million + users over its distros. The issue is most arent gamers, and office penetration is low

>>60581378
Every day we stray further from god

>>60581447
>>60581185
what's the point of this "failed" discussion?

>>60581378
>they create a jewish AI
>they let is loose on the internet to learn
>2 days later it goes 14/88

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Crossposting from >>60581548 because two threads is better than one:

Which package/plugin should I install? I've searched "video/x-ms-asf" in package manager in both description and names, found nothing

Having problems with LXDE. When I boot up my machine, the lxpanel is running but it's showing up. I have manually restart it to make it work. Lxpanel is the quite windows like bar in the bottom on the screen.

Is there any experts or experienced senpaitachi with LXDE and it's DE soft who knows about this issue.

>tfw virt-manager lags
back to aqemu I go.. and still no way to make networking work, help

>>60581606
Do you have all the codecs installed? Like gst-plugins-good, gst-plugins-bad, gst-plugins-ugly (prefixes may differ in your distro)

>>60581760
You need to set up network bridging.

Use your search engine of choice to search for "qemu network bridge" for a good selection of tutorials/howtos.

>>60581776
I thought you WEREN'T supposed to install all of the gstreamer packages since they conflict with each other and break shit

>>60581788
will try, thanks a lot

>>60581802
No idea where you heard that. I've always installed all of them and never had a codec problem.
Try it, what's the worst that could happen?

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>no decent video editors for linux

none that I have tried so far look or run like pic related

>>60581826
GNU/Linux*

>>60581826
There are like 10 nice editors, theres also Blender. Use your search engine.

>>60581826
im more worried about image editors, gimp is gimped desu

>>60581945
Not that anon, but there really aren't 10, especially if anon wants an Avid replacement. Most are way too basic.
There's really only Blender, but it's a different paradigm so nobody even considers it.

>>60581929
psh, nothin personnel kid

>>60581945
there are nice editors but there are none that really work like avid does

>>60581969
are sjw's still trying to change the name because they think a bdsm term is homophobic?

>>60581969
GIMP is great. Learn to use it.

>>60581971
there's davinci resolve but i've never had any success in installing it on any linux OS, and i've heard that the linux version requires a PCI card from blackmagic in order to get sound

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>>60581993
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60581992
Why is it called GIMP? Because you're gimping yourself by using it.

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try SourceMage

>>60582068
why does he wear a hat

>>60581760
aqemu generates a line of text at the bottom, that is the qemu command it passes, you may want to check what it says

>>60580911
that depends on the hardware/os involved
need specs

>>60582082
because he is a wizard

>>60582125
wtf

>>60582125
nice try nsa

>>60582130
no that's from harry potter

>>60582211
poetter

>>60582082
Because he's a big guy

>>60582082
so he can tip

>>60582082
Freedom

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>>60581993
Took 20 minutes to iron out the minor kinks, but it installed successfully through AUR.
Arch is the real masterrace.

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Can I meme with the rest of them now?

>>60582546
congrats, now install sourcemage

>>60582648
I want to but I don't have the patience for source based distros.

>>60582667
fair enough

Is there a greasemonkey script to give me more (you)s for replies?

>>60581289

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesa_(computer_graphics)

>Mesa is an open-source implementation of the OpenGL, Vulkan and other specifications

K

>>60581826

Lightworks
Shotcut
Avid (yes, avid)

You're welcome.

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What is good music creation studio software for GNU/Linux that's like garageband?

>>60581826
lwks

get the fuck out

>>60582082
LOTS 'O LOYELTY FOR A HIRED BURGLAR

I always used the integrated Radeon graphics and never had a problem with radeon driver. I gonna to buy a dedicated GPU because I have todo some medium editing and light Blender stuff. My question is, which between Nvidia and AMD has the best closed drivers for Linux? Considering performance and stability.

Also what do you prefer, the RX 560 or the GTX 1050?

>>60583476

It's generally accepted that nVidia has the better closed source drivers, and AMD has the best open source drivers. AMD open source is catching up to their proprietary. nVidia open source is barely usable for anything other than 2D, and even then it is generally not recommended.

>>60582125
fedora with a razer cybort R.A.T 777 quickshot csgo edition

>>60583543
And how stable are the closed drivers? I mean what are the chances that xorg and mesa versions breaks the drivers? And how is the Wayland behavior with open and closed drivers on both GPU's?

I am using ArchLinux.

>>60583670
>Wayland
You can literally forget about Wayland for a few years

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What's .run file?
Is it standalone executable, or package installation file?
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads

>>60583727
this, don't fall for the trap guys

>>60583739
It's a bash script

>>60583739

man file

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Reasking, but how do i fix this? the drive boots fine under windows and doing error checks on it shows its fine. Ive tried several of the fixes listed but they havent worked. When i use fdisk -l i get

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sda1 63 1953523119 1953523057 931.5G 42 SFS

so we can see that the thing at the beginning is fucked, because im pretty sure its meant to be "boot start 2048" right? and clearly the file type is wrong. So even after i fix it im also wondering why windows even boots it if its stuffed, and why windows doesnt recognise the signature or whatever is stuffed.

>>60583821
>Error mounting /dev/sdbX
>fdisk shows /dev/sdaX
??

>>60583821
What version of windows is installed on the drive?

>>60583751
Bash script that's 90 MB ?

>>60583821
Have you tried mounting it manually?
Just use mount and get rid of all those extra swqitches

>>60583871
old ss, drives mounted to sda now

>>60583900
8, error tested on 8

>>60583938
yeah ive tried, tells me it doesnt have a valid ntfs, im sure its ntfs though, although it shows as sfs on g/l

>>60583949
>8, error tested on 8
Have you disabled "fastboot" or whatever this feature is called?
By default windows 8 and higher does not shutdown by default.
Instead the OS performs a semi-hibernation thingy that lets it boot up quicker.

mount detects hibernation file and prevents the filesystem from being mounted.

Turn off the feature, reboot, shutdown (properly). It should work

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>install libsdl2-dev through package manager
>test program won't compile
>the package is an old version, of course
>remove it through package manager
>download latest sdl2 source
>compile, make, make install
>code compiles latest version
>gcc still links to the previous version for some reason
>manually delete everything i can find related to SDL
>recompile and install the source
>gcc still links to the old version

fuck this shit im too dumb for lonix

>>60584272
Use your package manager to install,dont do make install.

>>60584272
>manually delete everything i can find related to SDL
you did this on purpose

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>wayland doesn't support screenshots, hotekeys, global clipboards, etc
>therefore a compositor will have to implement these features somehow, thus making wayland as insecure as X
Wayland is like systemd - unnecessary trash.

>>60584272

sudo apt-get autoclean
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove

do this before using gcc, autoclean should be enough though

>>60583727
>>60583543
>>60583745

Thank you, viewing the benchmarks in Phoronix I'll go for the GTX 1050.

>>60584318
Fuck off X11 shill

>>60583821
fdisk shows SFS partition type, it looks like some kind of non-conventional Windows-specific partitioning? Do you have any Windows specific features like disc encryption enabled?

>>60584318
actually wayland can take a screenshot of your desktop, through a systemd vulnerability https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-230-FBDEV-Woe

:^)

>>60584355
kek

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>>60584355
>>60584318

Should the ONU declare those fuckers a terrorist organization?

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Just a post to remind you to update your kernel.
Do not forget to verify signature.
https://www.kernel.org/

>>60584386
at this rate of sabotage over the GN/Linux desktop, I wouldn't be surprise

>>60584393
How do people update their kernel without a source based distro? Is this even supported by APT?

>>60584433
makepkg in my case.

>>60584433
debian experimental usually has the latest kernel

ubuntu users should check the ubuntu kernel team ppa/http directory

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>>6058425
just finished checking, no avail. I thought so since i have another disk that mounts fine

>>60584345
i know its got a weird partitioning but it shows up in g/l fine the disks name is "storage drive" so it at least knows of it guess. I tried mounting it as dev/sda2/ too but it doesnt work

>>60584325
after doing this and reinstalling the dependencies, it works

much appreciated

>>60584433
You can download the kernel and compile it yourself. That's what I do.

>>60584272
Never use "make install" to install something system wide, it's not intended for an end user and practically almost irreversibly messes up your system

>>60584433

trizen -Syu

≧◡≦

What are some good free games for Linux? If there even are any

>>60584877
install gentoo on VM
That will keep you busy

What's really convenient is that there is a mobile app for the arch wiki so if my internet connect goes dead I can read the guide in a convenient app.

>>60584899
Gentoo is a game?

>>60584553
I've installed software via the traditional

./configure
make
su
(sudo if I didn't use su) make install

many of times and it's never once given me problems. Speaking of ./confgure, not all software uses a configure script? Is it only codemonkeys who skip the configure script?

>>60585035
Come tell me that when you're in neck deep in shit with deps that cant be resolved cause you dont listen

>>60585058
Installing via traditional means comes with the price of having to manage dependencies on your own. Besides, I like to avoid software that has 9001 dependencies or requires a very special version of the dependencies.

>>60585083
I dont have this problem with my package manager.
I dont have this problem with my distro as it keeps its software and deps up to day

>>60584877
X-moto (2D physics based motocross game) and Abuse (sidescrolling shooter) are both pretty good and at least on Arch they seem to be available in the community repository.

Emulators are also worth checking out.

>>60584877
Faeria
Everlasting Summer
Team Fortress 2
Dota 2
No More Room In Hell
Emily is away
Viridi
Awkward Dimensions Redux
Streets of Rogue
Ravenfield
Raft
Primeover

also, lot of great games through emulation.

>>60585110
I never said I don't use my package manager, I use it all the time. I only said that it's most likely your own fault the program failed to install properly and that make install has never given me any problems.

>>60584877
https://libregamewiki.org/Main_Page
https://www.penguspy.com/
https://lgdb.org/games

I have an HDD i want to use as an exFAT media drive for dual booting. Is there any way of adding file permissions to what gets stored on there? I have a feeling it isn't simple

>>60585320
>Is there any way of adding file permissions to what gets stored on there?

what do you want exactly?

>>60585488
only specific groups/users can access the drive

>>60585504
umask, uid in fstab

check this old-ass thread, it shows you what to do:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/18139/how-to-write-an-fstab-line-for-full-access-to-an-ntfs-drive

should works for ntfs-3g, exfat and other FUSE filesystems too.

>>60585131
>>60584877
You should check out Unreal Tournament. It was nice when I tried it. Sadly I don't have much time to play nowadays.

>>60585592
i played quake at a high level for a few years, these games doesn't interest me anymore. i need games with a good scenario and, to be honest, they are quite rare.

right now, the game that i wait the most is probably crosscode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CuG6jId3MI

>>60585592
is the new one linux compatible? id imagine so since unreal is. shame quake championship isnt on gnu linux since i always prefered the speed and jumping of quake

>>60585799
scenario?

try dwarf fortress

>>60585814
i would like but the learning curve seems too high for me. i no more have the motivation to invest myself this much in a game.

>>60585120
>>60585131
>>60585276
>>60585592
Thanks for the suggestions!

I want to compile the kernel.How do i disable everything that i dont need,and only have the things i run enabled?

>>60581070
Squid3 proxy for web traffic and SOCKS5 for everything else. If you want to tunnel _all_ your traffic I suggest a VPN.

>>60586188
you go through the config menu and mark only what you want.

>>60581180
As a sysadmin I think it's great.

>>60586233
How do i know what i want with the myriad of random cryptic option settings?

>>60586261
Go to the directory related to the option and read the README.txt.

>>60586231
That's not what I want.
I need to redirect system-wide traffic to select IP addresses through a preexisting SOCKS proxy.

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Why GTK-3 is so shit? Why its shit?

Why the fuck does my fedora kde has have a different desktop on each monitor which is also mirroring anything I put on either side.

>>60587556
Thats a KDE (((feature)))

>>60587570
How do I turn (((it))) off. What is this garbage (((feature))) called.

>>60587600
Uninstall KDE

>>60587612
I was actually thinking of doing that considering I'm pretty sure it's causing these fucking crashes, but I'm not sure. Fedora could just garbage on my hardware.

>>60587626
>Fedora
found your problem

Is this guy a trap?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0poMMW5DhHY

>>60587763
Never mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V02GwwF-DE

I'm using manjaro for the first time. the repository is nice, AUR is nice too.
the only problem I've got is that the sound is a bit weird (but this is a linux problem, every distro I tested presented the same problem. I tried using an equalizer but it doesn't work well)

Is there a reliable way to 'sandbox' programs? I want to use Skype but I've just read that it seems shady since nobody can tell what it does or what it sends to the internet.

>>60588285
What I mean is that I don't want it to be able to read any data besides the stuff in it's own directory.

What is the difference between all the Debian ISO's? Why is there so many?

Which one do I download if I just want to install Debian Stretch on a USB?

>>60588285
firejail, chroot, giving a separate user

I'm helping my friend install arch linux and we're having a proplem setting up the wifi. His wireless card doesn't generate a profile that shows up in "ip link". We've tried everything. Help?

>>60588492
Thanks friend

>>60588519
The interface (wlp1s0) isn't displayed in "ip link"? Does lspci show the wireless device? Which device is it?

>>60587970
Weird how? If you're using pulseaudio, try installing pavucontrol and seeing what the configuration tab says about your audio devices.

>>60588371
They're mainly for different CPU architectures, and download sources, and some of the shit that is packaged.
You should just use the netinst ISO: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
It's extremely likely that you're looking for the amd64 version.

To update all my shit should I use:

pacman -Syu
pacman -Syyu
pacaur -Syu
pacaur -Syyu
pacaur -Syua
pacaur -Syyua

or a combination of some of them?

>>60588633
Yeah, lspci shows:

05:00.0 Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03)

>>60588679
Only -Syu is needed.

>>60588696
pacman or pacaur?

>>60588718
pacaur is a wrapper over pacman, so you may as well just use that.

What would be a good distro/de to use as a VM that will only be used for programming? No media/games/day to day use, just as a VM for development.

>>60588749
Devuan

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>>60588633
>Weird how? If you're using pulseaudio, try installing pavucontrol and seeing what the configuration tab says about your audio devices.
it sounds a bit distorted compared to when I use windows. the bass is a bit too strong, so I tried using an equalizer (FFT based equalizer etc..), but the final result wasn't good.

>>60588643

Thanks.

>>60588694
From a quick glance it looks like you'll need to install the correct drivers, you can get them from the AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/broadcom-wl/. Not sure how to proceed if you don't have ethernet or mobile tethering available. I guess you could just download the sources on another computer and transfer them using a flash drive.

>>60588893
This is a really dumb question, but how do I make the package from the git clone? The arch iso boots into root user by default and you can't run makepkg as root, and when I make a user and run it as them it says that they don't have the write permissions and I don't have the wifi to install sudo.

>>60589037
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/111406/install-drivers-offline-arch-linux#114099 haven't personally tried it, but seems reasonable.

Whenever I go from DM (gdm) -> DE (gnome) I get that lovely systemd black screen while the DE loads.

After the DE is done loading I can use it without issues, but that black screen is annoying and I believe the DM is not supposed to show that.

I'm running Arch.

What do?

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>>60585058
>Come tell me that when you're in neck deep in shit with deps that cant be resolved cause you dont listen
This is why the deps are listed on the github page

>>60589538
Uninstall systemd

>>60589538
I was getting that until recently but the black screen didn't go away on it's own, I had to make my laptop go to sleep then wake it. It started happening after a certain kernel upgrade so I think that's an issue with that instead of Wayland.

>>60589835
For some reason kwallet can remember a lot of things like the passwords in kmail but it can't remember the password to my GPG key even if I tick the box that say to remember key. How do I force kwallet to remember the password for my gpg key so I don't have to type it in every time I want to send an encrypted email?

>>60589859
Didn't mean to quote anyone.

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How much longer until the CIA finishes their backdoor on Debian 9?

Release it already!

>>60589881
Their probably in the process of having all their backdoors absorbed by systemd like everything else.
So ask Poettering

>>60589223
Thanks, we have internet working now, but now we have another problem. We made the partition and ran mkfs.ext4 on it and mounted it, but when we run

pacstrap -i /mnt base base-devel

it gives a bunch of errors about invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature) and at the end says:

==> ERROR: Failed to install packages to new root

and it's missing some of the folders that should be there in an arch linux root directory.

>>60589995
kek

How can one make nodm load sway instead of i3?

Why mpv throws this for all my filters?

[vo/opengl] Disabling scaler #0 ewa_lanczossharp (GLSL version too old).

I'm running Debian Stretch btw

>>60588893
>>60588694
make sure you have `dialog` and `wpa_supplicant installed (not just on the liveCD). check `rfkill list` to make sure it's not hard or soft blocked. use `netctl` to try generating a profile.

>>60590278
>GLSL version too old
>GLSL version too old
>GLSL version too old
>GLSL version too old

>>60590669
lol I know, but what package should I update? on synaptic, there's a few results with GLSL, I got them all and still no change.

how can I check my asic quality?

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How can I make the icons and text bigger?

I hate that they're so small.

I'm running Arch, if it matters.

>>60590848
LOL

>>60590706
mesa

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>>60581180

>>60590848
Hey man, I'm on Arch too!

New libre distro: https://www.hyperbola.info/

>>60591333
Parabola and Debian had a love child. Man there seems to be a new Arch offshoot every other year now. I remember when it was just Chakra and Parabola.

>>60590848
path/to/theme/gnome-shell/gnome-shell.css

As an Arch user you surely can figure it out. On Debian myself, by the way.

>>60591333
red team and blue team are finally in love.

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Alright guys I got a pretty specific issue here, or maybe not and I'm just a dumbass.

I'm using Linux Mate 17.1 Sarah, built on Ubuntu Xenial. I need to update a program called unar, but the dev only made it available for Yakkety and above. See here: https://pkgs.org/download/unar
Notice how there's no 1.10 for Xenial? Yeah.

So in my infinite wisdom I decided to download the version for Yakkety and see if I could install it, and it calls for a package "libicu57" (see pic), but checking the package manager only shows up to "libicu55" and their site http://site.icu-project.org/download is too full of technical stuff for me to make sense of. Hoping someone can tell me if it's actually possible to get libicu updated to 57 or above and thus get unar 1.10 working on Xenial.

Also, as a last note, here's unar's site https://unarchiver.c3.cx/commandline notice the section that says how to compile manually, I'm thinking should I just try doing that from the start? Never compiled anything before.

What if I'm in a bad mood and don't want to be friendly. Can I still participate in this thread?

>>60591476
You can go to almost literally any other thread on /g/ for that.

>>60591333
When are people going to learn that we don't fucking need more customized bundles of software.

The ONLY distros worth being separate distros are the ones with unique package managers. Everything else is a waste of time.
and if a particular package manager is so restrictive that we have to make multiple distros with it just to get particular configurations of software then it's a shitty package manager and we shouldn't be making new distros with it in the first place.

>>60591490
Fuck you!

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>>60591504

>>60591526
Oh s-sorry

>>60580885
Hey guys. I just noticed this little trick
This command plays Beethoven's 5th sympathy (REAL)

chmod -R 000 /

>>60591882
summer

>>60591882
LOL

>>60591882
doesn't work

awhile ago I updated to ubuntu 16 and my screenfetch program now produces interesting results. the RAM usage displays in negatives, as an example I have 4GB and if my system is using 500MB it'll display as
-3.5GB/4GB
I've removed and reinstalled the program but nothing has changed. Any ideas on what's wrong?

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>>60587519
because they haven't spent millions on research and development in ergonomics like did microsoft or apple

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Hey fglt I just want to let you know that I love you and I love Linux and it means so much to me that I have somewhere I can talk to other people who love it as much as I do I don't know what I'd do without you guys thank you so much.

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>>60592350
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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If I burned distro ISO to DVD, and deleted the original ISO.
How do I burn the ISO to USB flash drive without downloading it again?

Hi, I've got an hp envy laptop, on which is installed windows, in one partition of the 1T hard drive, and debian, in an other partition.
Even though I've gone through all the installation process, I can't seem to find the EFI file from it.
I tried to use rEFInd to look for it but it didn't find anything, and I must precise that I had manjaro installed on it but removed before installing debian

So I've got and 150gb partition on my hard drive but I can't access it, what do ?

>>60592408
Hire a wizard.

>>60592443
>I've got an hp envy laptop, on which is installed windows
sad to hear that

>>60590848
I really like this pape

>>60592461
b-but I had glinux on it

How do I make tar easier to use I'm too much of a brainlet to remember the 4 different options it needs for each type of archive. Is there a bash alias or something I can use to figure out the right command and use that?

>>60592446
Will dd the DVD to ISO create identical ISO that can be burned to USB flash drive?

>>60592408
The same way you would normally, but in place of the image filename you use the device file that represents your DVD drive.

E.g. if you'd normally do

[code}dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdb[/code]

you now do

dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/dev/sdb

Similarly if you use cat. I'm not so sure about cp, though - I personally wouldn't run

cp /dev/sr0 /dev/sdb

.

>>60592481
Re-read the manpage every time until you learned it.

>>60592489
Thanks, wouldn't performance suffer when dd directly from optic drive?
Should I dd to ISO the dd the ISO to USB flash drive?

Why isn't there a simple command that prints the current cpu usage in percent so I can use it with lemonbar?

>>60592477
ignore him, he's a fageet

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How do you create Win7 VM Template in Qubes?

>>60592548
Windows is literally malware. Noone should use it.

https://chao-tic.github.io/blog/2017/05/24/dirty-cow what did he mean by this?

I've spent the last hour and a quarter trying to learn how to install things from tar.bz2. I can unpack fine but after that when I try to configure it I always have problems because I'm in the wrong directory and it won't do it there, or something like that. This is icecat by the way, when I read the instructions included in the tar I still couldn't get it working. I like it when I can download an installer, like with Pale Moon (just to practicing installing things), rather than have to fuck around with tar but I know some day I'm going to have to learn it before I can switch over to linux completely.

Is it actually difficult for new users to learn this stuff or am I just retarded? Any else have trouble like this at the start?

>>60593008
GNU/Linux*

Why don't you just use the binary?

>>60593080
I don't know what that is yet.

GNU is bloat.

>>60593008
are you using gnuzillas firefox build scripts or trying to build from source?
>https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/

>>60593184
I downloaded the first one of them and tried that. I take it that's source.
http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/gnu/gnuzilla/52.1.0/

I look again for scripts.

>>60593292
i downloaded the x64_64 tar from the page you linked, it fired up and ran fine with

./run-icecat.sh

but it looks like it is a prebuilt program with all dependencies contained.

>>60593373
I see, thanks. I'll take another look at it, I'm just having a break from that stuff for a few hours. I'm trying to learn at least a little each day.

Whats up with solus btw

how do you write drivers?

>>60593474
"not amd"

hey I've got a problem, I want to swap from Debian stretch to Ubuntu mate. whenever I swap I delete the old distro but then have to repair my boot with my windows CD becasue grub fucks around is there anyway I can avoid doing this?

tl:dr
do I have to repair my boot loader everytime i want to change distro and reinstall grub.

I just realized that basically all arguments against SystemD also work for Linux.
>makes itself a dependency on everything
>large, unmaintainable and insecure structure
>monolithic instead of unix-like servers
>large attack surface
>possibly botnet

Kernel freedom when?

>>60593543
Play around with other distros in a VM instead of bare metal.

>>60593551
Basically all arguments against systemd are meaningless dribble.

>>60593551
Basically all arguments against monolithic kernels are meaningless dribble.

>>60591468

sudo apt-get install libicus-dev

>>60580885
Not sure if this is the right thread, but here goes:

What's the most freedom-respecting mobile OS, aside from Replicant? My device is not supported, so I'm looking for the next best thing. I dislike that everything runs in Java in most ROMs, but at the same time, I'm not sure it's much of a choice.

what is the best pro-systemd distro?

>>60593474
https://github.com/gregkh/usb_tutorial
https://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
http://linuxdriverproject.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page

>>60593853
https://web.archive.org/web/20121127163753/http://linuxforniggers.us/

>>60593853
fedora

what is the best anri-systemd distro?

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Thoughts on BSD?

>>60593898
Gentoo or Slack

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>>60593906

>>60592524
this?

awk '{ print $1*100"%"}' /proc/loadavg

>>60592524

conky.text = [[
$cpu%
]]

>>60593956
It doesn't work like you think.

man -P 'less -p "/proc/loadavg"' proc

The first three numbers are averages.

Lets say the first field is 1.5 and you have 1 cpu, then it means that the load is 50% above what the cpu can do.

>>60593955
>that font rendering

>>60593955
>cuck search engine shows cuck results
really makes you think

>>60593824
Didn't work, but thanks anyways. I even tried removing libicu55 first but nope

Gentoo is overrated.

I'm trying to get off the systemd ride, would you recommend Manjaro OpenRC?

>>60594097
>Gentoo is over acclaimed.
FTFY

>>60594110
Gentoo.

>>60594139
How long does it realistically take to install? I'm a user who can do stuff with the terminal but by no means a linux expert. My previous distro was antergos.

>>60594033
but this is how top do

>>60594158
The same as installing Arch + compile time.

>>60593906
it's OK. Pain in the ass for desktop purposes thou.

We can peacefully coexist and ship each others software.

>>60593551
>Kernel freedom when?

Right here m8:
-debian gnu/hurd
-debian gnu/kfreebsd

>>60593906
>t. requires linux apps

>>60594222
>linux
>apps
reddit pls go

>>60594033
are you still here?

why tf mate is so broken when i use the scroll wheel it scolls for a bit and then it brings up whatever other window i have open

>>60594110
Yes, Manjaro is okay too.

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Friendly remind that Linux is just the kernel. Other kernels are:
HiStar http://www.scs.stanford.edu/histar/
and The Muen Separation Kernel https://muen.sk/

Operating Systems under GPL are:
FreeVMS http://www.freevms.net/
FreeDOS https://www.freedos.org/
Plan 9 https://github.com/brho/plan9
JNode http://www.jnode.org/
KolibriOS http://kolibrios.org/en/
ReactOS https://reactos.org/

Special mention to GNU/Hurd https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/

gnome music isnt scanning my music folder, or it appears to (because the "you have no music" thing goes away) but nothings showing up in gnome-music. Also is it possible to add directories to folders? i have a different hard drive with all my music on it but i dont want it to point exclusively there

>>60594787
>no minix
>no とあるOS
trash

>>60594875
>cuck licenses
trash

>>60594787
Skipped hurd hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
also no other kernel is as useful as linux, i dont see why anyone would switch to a less secure kernel that undergoes way less developement. Its backed by several multibillion dollar enterprises where as everything else is honestly hobby tier

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holyshit, linux tan is ugly as hell.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/OS-tan

i hate linux now

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>>60595023

>>60595172
>>60595023
both look pretty bad, if there was a good program for doing digital art on linux id do a better design and force it.

>>60595216
GNU/Linux*

whats the difference between using dndf and yum on fedora?

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>>60595023
>>60595216
Install gentoo

>>60595260
>>60595216
>>60595172
>>60595023
keep your weeaboo stuff out of tech

>>60595260
gentoo chan is very attractive

>>60595284
tech was all weeaboos

>>60595284
Anime website

>>60595366
technology board

>>60595172
>gnome on the skirt
>kde on the helmet
>lilo, grub, gcc on the flags

trash

>>60595379
Technology board on an anime website.

>>60595390
>>>/a/ heres your board, please go back

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>>60595284

>>60595401
/g/ is an honorable anime board and is brother to /a/ as our little sister.

how to find a cute linux girlfriend?

>>60595351
>http://www.4chan.org/
>What is 4chan?
>4chan is a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images.

>>>
>/g/ is for the discussion of technology and related topics.

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i installed picrelated
why is it so laggy? Choppy scrolling in firefox/chrome, UI animations dropping frames... Is there some remedy?

windows10 was silkysmooth

>>60595414
This

>>60595414
and a former anime board

>>60595475
tech is not /g/

>>60595447
Linux is a kernel.
There are no Linux desktops
There are no Linux distros
There are no Linux themes
There are no Linux icons
There are no Linux filepickers
There are no Linux partitions
There are no Linux machines
There are no Linux people
There are no Linux boxes
There are no Linux fags
and there are no cute Linux girlfriends

>>60595475
see >>60595351
>tech was all weeaboos
not a "weeaboo" myself, but he is right

>>60595490
>What is 4chan?
>4chan is a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images.

New thread
>>60595513
>>60595513

>>60587519
It's a GUI api written in C instead of C++

>>60592481
Write an alias for the options you most frequently use.

>>60593551
I noticed that a long time ago so I stopped listening to all the FUD. If monolithic design scares you that much, go use GNU/Hurd instead.