/wt/ - Watch Thread

>>60229655
1st for quartz

mods, this shitter

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>>60229655
First for the glory of Lemania chronographs.

>>60229731
Do they make that in quartz?

>>60229731
Are you the guy who posted his collection in last thread? That speedy is my absolute favorite

>>60229726
This is the real /wt/

Cross-posting:

>>60229141
A King Seiko 4502-7000 in the pictured condition for $450 is a pretty good deal, however be aware that the 45xx movement is a bit high-maintenance as it tends to be prone to some excessive wear and it needs more frequent servicing than a 52xx or 5740C would.

I would avoid any 56xx King Seiko as, in my view, the 56xx caliber is inferior to the 52xx King Seikos which are available at similar pricepoints. In addition, if you are considering a 56xx King Seiko you should also be aware that the 56xx used a plastic gear in the day/date quickset mechanism that is prone to shrinking and cracking strictly due to age (and not wear) and as a result most 56xx movements with a day or day/date function will eventually end up with a broken quickset for the day and date. As such, if you really must have a 56xx King Seiko I would recommend going for a time only model.

Finally, the 4402 King Seiko is an 18,000bph low beat model that, while historically important and quite reliable, will not give you the kind of time-keeping performance a 45xx or 52xx King Seiko will be capable of.
Basically, as a vintage Seiko nerd with an interest in high end production movements, I would personally go for the 4502 King Seiko, but I would be quite willing to spend whatever I had to in order to keep it maintained (up to and including possibly having to buy a donor movement one day).

If I was leery of having to spend to keep it running at its best, then I would definitely go for the 5740C Lord Marvel as it will be the cheapest to keep running over the long term. The movement design is much simpler and more reliable than the 45xx, and its inherent accuracy is actually supposed to be very very good, it just doesn't hack.

If you don't mind it not being a 36,000 bph hand-winding movement, then I would definitely look at 52xx King Seiko Specials as they are 28,800 bph automatic models that are reliable, accurate, and which were lavished with extra attention at the factory.

Friendly reminder to report the shitposting. They've been banned before for this behavior. It violates global rule 3, 6, and 10 depending that they're doing at the time.

>>60229745
>real

nope, it isn't.

>>60229754
This.

>>60229779
Thanks for letting us know you're one of the shitposters. Please see global rule 7

>>60229745
Yeah. It's an amazing movement. One of my biggest frustrations with the craven greedy bastards at the Swatch Group is that they killed the Lemania 5100 even though multiple watchmakers were literally begging them to keep making it.

What are the best vintage sub $500 pieces? Don't care if it is quartz or mechanical. Something horologically significant would be nice.

>>60229779
You are banned soon.

So this is a duplicate of that thread where mechanicalfags couldnt accept the fact that some people enjoy quartz and digital watches, even though quartz and digitals would be more in the spirit of /g/ than any mechanical ever?
Wow I hate mechanicalfags now

>>60229806
there are tons of omegas for that price

>>60229841
Stop the samefagging already. Nobody is taking your baiting seriously.

>>60229811
>>60229801

so? There's actual discussion in the first thread, as opposed to threats and baiting here. I daresay you're the ones getting it.

>>60229806
Vintage Seikos still have most of the best deals you can get. You can easily find vintage King Seiko and Grand Seiko quartz models for well under $500.

For mechanical, you can still get 52xx King Seiko Specials for under $500, and 45xx King Seikos along with 5740C Lord Marvels for ~$500.

Hell, last time I checked you can still get Seiko 701x vintage chronographs for less that $500 (a technically superior Daini Seikosha produced design compared to the Suwa Seikosha produced 613x, which has clutch issues). Mind you, vintage chronographs are not for the feint of heart as they can be pricey to keep serviced and maintained.

>>60229859
>There's actual discussion in the first thread
There's literally nothing. Just your pathetic samefagging and troll attempts

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>>60229806

Zenith maybe.

Burger pocket watches are also insanely cheap and companies like Waltham, Elgin, Illinois, etc. have high end railroad chronometers you can pick up insanely cheap.

>>60229806
>Something horologically significant would be nice
I actually like the electromechanical watches you can find for quite cheap. they're a sign of the traditional watchmakers trying to survive the introduction of quartz.
same with those quasi-digital jumping hour + minutes and seconds on a disc, as a response to the lcd digitals.

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>>60229806
Now, if you are willing to spend up to $750, that opens up your options a fair bit as you can get many good examples of late 1960s and early 1970s Omega models with the 56x or 75x movements.

They are, quite seriously, still regarded as some of the best series produced automatic movements ever made.

>>60229806
Bulova Accutron
Omega Seamaster

>Muh patina

Why do watch fags convince themselves that a banged up scratched watch is desirable?

I've even had someone claim they'd rather have a damaged watch that "shows character" than a clean one.

This doesn't happen in any other circles. I've never heard a classic car enthusiast say "nice Jaguar E type but what I really wish is if it had more dents in the bodywork".

>>60229994
I haven't really heard anybody wanting patina on their watches. But there are a lot of car/motorcycle dudes who like to keep the original paintjob/interior instead of total restauration.

>>60229994
You've never heard of people into vintage cars who prefer them in original patina'd condition to overly restored show queens? Are you actually being serious right now, or is this bait?

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What are you wearing today, /wt/? I'm still wearing my DJ as I'm still tracking it's worn accuracy from April 22 to now.

>>60230040
No I have never heard of anyone say "Damn nice Testerossa but where's the rust dude!

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>>60230065
Same old

>>60229754
And don't reply to it either, just ignore it for fuck's sake.

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>>60230065
Explorer II (Polar),

What is your DJ keeping so far being worn?

My Explorer II is dead on nuts when I wear it every day, and when I let it sit it gains between 1-2 seconds (which I like as it just makes me slightly earlier for things).

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>>60229856
Nigger I just got here. I've gotten shit from /wt/ for buying digitals even before you and your lot came here to post gunky Vostoks and Pobedas.

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>>60230065

quick question about watch repair tools:
do i need a caseback wrench? i see that everyone says you can use a rubber ball to open a caseback, and that's all well and good, but how do you screw it back on then?

>>60230168
isn't it annoying to have to press a button to see the time?

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>>60230089
>Patina = rust
What could he have intended to convey with such actions?

The only acceptable aging marks on a watch is lume going orange.

Which reminds me of a question.

Why aren't watches in general lumed with trintium anymore is it banned?

You can get some watches from china with orange lume, is this tritium?

>>60230116
Is that the stock jubilee? You must be the only SKX owner I've ever seen leave it on that bracelet.

>>60230199
Patina: a green or brown film on the surface of bronze or similar metals, produced by oxidation over a long period.

>>60230196
It is yeah, but I still think the watch is super cool.

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>>60230148
Oscillates around a cumulative +0 dead. It runs between +0 and +3 in every position except crown down.

>>60230168
Nice watch. How's it treating you?

>>60230209
Nope, the original was quite horrible. Mine is the Strapcode Super Jubilee

>>60229655
>>>/fa/

>>60230214
That is not how the term is typically used with respect to vintage watches and cars. It is used to mean signs of use and aging, not literal patina in the sense of oxidization.

>>60230251
Ah, that makes sense then. How is it? I've got a super oyster for my SKX but I barely ever wear it these days.

>>60230201
You can still get the tubes. I think manufacturers moved away from the tritium paint because it changes chemically as the tritium decays to helium-3. Strontium aluminate lume is just easier to deal with from a materials standpoint I would imagine.

>>60230237
Pretty good. Picked it up on f29 for only $145 including a brand new spare bracelet. Only thing that's rough is it's almost impossible to read in direct sunlight without shading it.

>>60230201

I don't think it's banned but it's probably a bitch to import anymore because catladies that run the bureaucracies of the world love red tape and it's just easier to use ugly Luminova instead.

Real thread is here
>>60227982
>>60227982
>>60227982

Don't create new ones just because you're butthurt.

>>60230233

That's doing very good. What's the year of it?

>>60230274
I like it, especially for the price. Could be even more rigid but jubilees are always like that.

>>60230352
No it's not. You didn't even get the links right and "QUARTZ IS BETTER FUCKING MECHASHITS" doesn't sound very real to me.

To this guy:
>>60221648

Thanks

>>60230564
OP content is irrelevant to the point, it's still the first created watch thread. Stop creating duplicates.

Also stop being butthurt.

>>60230674
>OP content
The entire thread is full of trolling. Stop posting about it.

>>60230696
And you think this one won't be? This is still the same board. The same people are still here.

>>60230413
What would you consider Rolex quality at a third of Rolex price? Or do you just consider all watches of that price category overpriced?

>>60230920
but who makes a watch of the same quality rolex does for a third of the price?

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WAY/wt/? What should I wear myself?

I wear vintage watches on bright natos how much do you hate me?

>>60230995
i think it's neat, post pics

>>60230972
>No nato

Downvoted

>>60230972
Seiko. Every time you ask, it's going to be the Seiko.

>>60230359
It's a 2006 116223, serviced a few months ago by my local watchmaker. It took three post service adjustments of the rate to dial it in. Got my watchmaker to do the tweaks because I don't feel like buying a microstella wrench or learning g how to use one (I regulate smooth balances myself using a timegrapher and a small screwdriver for the micro-adjuster).

>>60230327
Yeah, that always was the problem with LED watches, even in period.

>>60230972
>mfw that 30-year-old Rolex has the very same cal. 3135 as the new subs

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Friendly reminder to report the shitposting. They've been banned before for doing this.

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5 1/2 wrist here, is it too big?

>>60231174
This.
Is he btw the same fag using the words "cage" and "cagers" to describe cars and car owners?

>>60230972
Phuck me dead that's a tough one. Go with the GS

>>60231185
Looks acceptable.

>>60231168
Are you sure? Rolex is known to continually upgrade their movements, sometimes pretty significantly, without changing the name of the calibre.

>>60231185
Post a top down shot. Looks fine form that angle, though.

>>60231022
>I was talking to the quarz autist
Please get a trip.

>>60231185
is that on your wrist? no way that's 5"1/2.

>>60231185
Nah, looks fine

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>>60230623
You're welcome.

I forgot two options that aren't technically perpetual calendars but mimic the function via radio sync: the Casio Lineage liw-t100td (pic related) and the Casio Oceanus.

>>60230972
Wear the DJ so we can be two-tone DJ buddies (see >>60230065).

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>>60231228
Well... the only thing that might have actually changed over the time is the production process: I bet they are churning them out much faster and cheaper than a few decades ago.

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>>60231373
Wear it in good health, my fellow shitposter...

>>60231168
I've heard that the 3135 has improved a lot over it's production, to the extent that 3135s from after 2000 are supposedly significantly more accurate than those from the 1990s. That may be hearsay though.

Also keep in mind that production movements from the 1970s are capable of excellent performance and cans hand up to current movements in most aspects bar power reserves.

>>60231467
*Can stand up to

>>60230065
Wait a second... Where have I seen that wrist before? Are you that Canadian guy with the A U T O M A T I C Seiko Brightz?

>>60231496
it took you this long to recognize him?
>>60221733

>>60231496
Amongst several other watches, yeah. I'm keeping that Brightz for the day I luck into a donor 4s15 and convert it to the movement that model deserved from the factory.

>>60231358
That's not a trip

>>60229994
They're falling for the creating a family heirloom meme. The Swiss merchant is very happy.

>>60231600
you should put a handwind movement in it, so that the A U T O M A T I C becomes cool and ironic

I've got $1200 in credit card points on Amazon I haven't spent.

What watch should I buy? Has to be on amazon.

/wt/, where do you buy your watch boxes?

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newb here, I've been lurking here for a while and from what I've seen here and tried on IRL, I've realized that I want a small business/dress watch I can wear with a suit. Someone posted the Seiko Dolce a few threads back and while it's really nice, I just can't swing $400 for a watch right now.

Pic related is cheap and has a vaguely similar look. I know it's not 'nice' in the sense that you guys mean it (just a cheap Chinese watch), but is it something that looks nice enough from a normal viewing distance, or are the differences painfully obvious to anyone?

Mainly I want to wear it for job interviews and for when I'm wearing a more business casual type attire.

>>60231711
Most people here have that $15 one from amazon

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>>60231525
Guilty as charged...

If this 4chan place ever closes down, man, I'm going to miss it deeply.

>>60231740
It's fine. Have you tried it on in person? If not, would suggest checking the dimensions - the lugs look like they might be kind of long, though hard to tell from the picture.

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Rate/Hate

>>60231740
Casios are usually the best choice in the lowest price range ($0-100). You did well

>>60231783
>>60231740
Oops I thought you bought it already
My bad

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>>60231777
I really like the bracelet. Hands on the thing are comically oversized though.

Usually I would give you shit for buying Steinhart, but you got trips.

>>60231740
What's your budget? I'll see if I can come up with any plausible alternatives for you.

>>60231783
>>60231806
Not yet, just considering it. I suppose I could just buy the Dolce, but I'm having a hard time justifying $400 when I mostly just want the look. I don't mind going cheap, although Im concerned that that Casio looks cheap IRL. (Can't try it on—not available in stores near me.) I suppose I could just order it and return it.

Part of the problem is that I don't know much about fit and finish on watches and I'm not sure just how much of a difference there will be between this one and something a bit more expensive.

>>60231818
>inane comments

>>60231826
>What's your budget? I'll see if I can come up with any plausible alternatives for you.
Budget is $400. I can swing it, it's just that it seems like a lot for a rather simple style, and my most expensive watch right now was $150.

I'd have thought that there would be many more options in this simple classic business style. I'm basically just looking for something 36mm or below and worth the sum of its parts so to speak. Lots of choices are either ugly or don't meet those criteria.

If you came up with something that looks similar with good materials for about $200 I'd probably go that route. Maybe it's the 36mm size--that might be making it tough to find anything.

>>60231832
Just ignore the namefag, he will get banned soon luckily

>>60231777
Who makes it and what movement does it use?

>>60229748

Hi, I'm >>60229141. Thank you for the detailed explanation. There is a bewildering information on vintage Seikos from around that era so I'm slowly learning.

What do you think of a GS from that era, is it as worthy as the KS moniker? If I remember right, it's made from a competing Seiko sub-factory right?

>>60231777
that's pretty damn good, apart from the hands which i'm not a fan of, hours especially. the dial, bezel and bracelet are good, and the case is fine too.
good watch anon.

>>60231859
Search up some old American watch brands (you can do swiss too, but more of those will have to be shipped in from overseas.)

You'll be able to find something your style, your budget and your size.

And it will be a little bit more interesting if it comes up during business. Rather than "yeah, I bought this off amazon" you'll be able to say "Oh yeah. Waltham was a watchmaker out Massachusetts. David Scott actually wore a Waltham on the surface of the moon! I saw this one online and had it shipped over from Poland."
http://www.chrono24.com/waltham/selfwinding-17-jewels-all-stainless-steel-case--id5791239.htm

Or something like that.

Other old American brands look up:

Elgin
Benrus
Bulova (Modern Bulova is now in Japan)
Hamilton (Modern Hamilton is now in Switzerland)
Gruen (First watch worn by James Bond in a movie was a Gruen.)

>>60231859
I'm fairly certain there are a few quartz Tissot models that fit the size, look and budget you are looking at if you want some alternatives to consider. I'd probably go for the Casio though.

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>>60229994

>>60229994

What hobbies have you been into? Basically all leather goods have patina as a desireable.
Not to mention antique furnishing.

>>60232065
You must be the ladies' man in your group.
kek.

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Wearing my dad's ballon bleu. Such a classy watch.

>>60232317
He must be terribly disappointed he has a son that wears a watch on his right hand.

>>60232239
Women love watches that have been shipped over from Poland.

>>60232317
>you: dad can i wear your watch?
>dad: no it costed more than it costed to raise you for 18 years
>you: cmon dad please i want to show my friends
>dad: friends? those fat slobs on the "gee" website?
>you: yes
>dad: heres my fake, looks just like the real thing

>>60232329
I was wearing my Vostok SE on my left hand, I just wore it for 2 minutes in order to take the pic desu.

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>>60232317
Way too big for your skelly wrists

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>>60232317
I like my watches Russian and my cars German

>>60231777

would look great on a Nato strap

>>60232317
Can't really say I see the appeal in Cartiers overall, or that model in particular. Looks very dated to me, but ymmv.

>>60232395
Hope you saw my post.
>>>/fa/12436157

>>60232344
yeah dogfug, they must be dripping wet from your jibber jabber about mechshits.

>>60232454
(You)

>>60232329
Of course, being left handed is such a fucking crippling disability. Asshole.

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>>60229942
You seem to know about Omegas: what can you tell me about mine?

>>60231923
I think the Grand Seikos have already been bid up to the point of no longer being good values.

And yes, originally Grand Seiko was the highest line from Suwa Seikosha, while King Seiko was the highest line from Daini Seikosha, but eventually both made GS and KS models (the 45GS was made by Daini, while 56KS was made by Suwa).

I'm general I prefer Daini calibers to Suwa calibers, as Daini's designs to be more reliable and have better inherent accuracy.

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>>60232611

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>>60232635

>>60232611
I'm a bit busy at the moment, but you can start by Googling "Omega" "550" and reading some of the links. I'll do a little digging for that specific model later.

>>60232065
Might sound ridiculous but I'd really prefer quartz which eliminates a lot of these vintage watches. Mainly I just don't want to commit to a mechanical—servicing, etc.—and I'm not too keen on having to wind it or set it if I haven't worn it for a day or two. Did any of these companies make any quartz models in the 70's, 80's, 90's?

>>60232467
you know it does get old dude...

>>60232695
Are you the pawn shop Omega guy?

>>60232786
Yeah. sorry. goodbye.

>>60232772
Finally, others are realizing the superiority f quartz.

Is Tissot pleb tier Swiss?

>>60232880
Swatch-era Tissot is, yeah
They have cool history though

>>60232772
>mechanical—servicing, etc.
I'm not sure what etc means in this case.

All watches need service. That being said, people generally don't service a cheap watch because the value of the watch is too low compared to the price of the service to bother. So most people will just wear them until there's a problem. And even unserviced mechanical watches run for decades. This is similar to the fact that most brand new cars could be driven off the lot and not have their oil changed for 100k miles. Now when the car does stopped it's going to be very fucked, but simply skipping a 6k mile oil change doesn't mean your car stops at 6001 miles.

Also, the website I gave you has advanced search functions to actually give the movement type you want.

>>60232880
Tissot is fairly mediocre. That being said, if you're looking for a brand new chronometer, Tissot and Mido have some of the cheapest options.

>>60232917
>Also, the website I gave you has advanced search functions to actually give the movement type you want.
Wish it had case diameter options!

>>60232880
Yes. Actually every Swiss brand cheaper than Rolex is pleb tier because they are all marketing driven huckster brands that rely on advertising to hawk hilariously overpriced Chink outsourced cases stuffed with generic ETA movements using 30 year old designs. Most of them are owned by The Swatch Group, who are the most petty, venal, greedy and anti-customer bunch of bastards in Switzerland, or close to it.

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tfw quartz shitters

>>60232959
It does.

>>60233009
just noticed
f-forgive me

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>>60231861
http://helmwatches.com/vanuatu1.html

Seiko NH35a is the movement.

>>60232403
I switch it back and forth. I am tired of the NATO at the moment even though it is the most comfy on my wrist.

>>60232981
looks nice broham, model?

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>>60233035
i think its an IWC ref. 3004 it uses an eta quartz from way back, eats batteries.

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>>60232817
It was more of a gun shop and diving shop that also dealt in gold, but yeah. I paid $1 for the Omega, $1 for pic related, $1 each for two Elgin watches (>>60225838), and $15 for an Invicta (>>60225090).

>>60232723
Thanks anon, doing some reading now.

>>60233103
>dat chip
thicc

>>60233034
Meh. I might have been interested if it was an NE15 at least.

If the crown turns backwards a bit after winding the main spring does it mean that something is wrong with the click or the click spring?
Watch is running completely fine otherwise and it actually winds when turning the crown.
Just seems to unwind slightly after winding.

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Can anyone help me identify this watch? It's listed on eBay. I'm trying to find the same model but in silver if it exists.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-Unisex-Womens-Swiss-Accutron-Bulova-Small-White-Dial-Gold-Vintage-Watch-/162473791994

W E E S P E Z I A L I Z E

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>>60232772
Look at vintage Seiko Type II quartz watches. This is mine, I got it on eBay for around £35 but they generally good for more than that.

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>>60232981
Don't worry anon, you'll be making that grand complication in no time!
Remember what George Daniels always said:
>fooking kill me m8 i want to fooking die it takes 11 fooking months to make a tourbillion with mah own bare bleeding fooking hands and no fooking cunt gives a shit because fooking nip quartz i'm going fooking blind KEEP POLISHIN THAT CASE BOY! DID I TELL YOU TO STOP? (and then bring me mah fooking tea)

>>60233879
>shaft & balls on the dial

>>60233905
That's why they have the nickname of penis quartz watches. It's a representation of a quartz crystal.

>>60233879
God damn that is a nice dial. Daini fuckin Seikosha for the win.

>>60233922
Thanks, it is lovely. The case finishing is beautiful too.

>>60233921
Fitting, since the very first quartz movement was created by a flaming homosexual.

>>60233879
Thanks for the recommendation, I will definitely look into those. Do they happen to make any without a little penis on the dial? It's kind of weird...

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This has been my daily watch for a while.

It's my first and only diver. It's not the most accurate watch in the world. But it's good enough.

>>60233879
>>60233984
Thanks again, man, these are great. Tons of character, cheap. Shame about the penis but whatever.

>>60233491
Probably fine, probably just the ratchet wheel slipping back one tooth against the click

>>60233107
The 501 is an amazing movement. You did really good. Have you taken it for service yet?

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>>60232623
Okay, looks like I'm narrowing it down to the 45xx King Seiko as per your advice. The seller is offering me a caliber 4502-8000 with linen dial but at about $100 more. Which one is supposed to be a rarer proposition?

>>60234330
Nope, I'm hoping to learn enough working on the Elgin watches that I can service it myself. I really can't justify the $350 right now, I'm about to dump a bunch of money into paramedic school and I quit my job.

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>>60233984
>>60234117
The penis only appeared. On the JDM models, the export models have an SQ logo instead. The finishing etc on the export models is supposedly not quite as good but they are cheaper.

I've never had one though so I couldn't say if they are any worse.

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>>60234362
Assuming the linen dialed 45 KS is of the case shape in that image, I would go for the 4502-7000 you posted earlier at $100 less. The 4502-7000 has the iconic grammar of design case shape and will not look as retro on the wrist as that linen dialed case will. Pic related is my King Seiko Special 5256 which has a similar case shape to that 4502-7000.

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>>60233992
SKX013? I like my SKX009 a lot but it doesn't get much wrist time since I got my SARB.

>>60233879
>>60234455
These work well with a metal bracelet. With other bands and straps it's just too "blocky" shaped somehow.

>>60234718
Cases with hooded lugs tend to look better on bracelets than straps.

>>60234455
>>60234718
>>60234981
Well damn, are there any similar to this that look better with a leather strap?

>>60235027
Not every King Quartz or Grand Quartz model has hooded lugs you know.

>>60232395

>In passenger seat
That your dad's car?

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>>60234532

13.

It's such a practical watch.

>>60235135
>King/Grand Quartz
Aren't these $1k+? The Type II was around $50 which is more my price range heh

>>60235192
>wrapping the strap around the outside of the keeper like that

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"""borrowed""" a perlon from my dad that he """borrowed""" from me that now leaves my Amphibia without a strap
also """borrowed""" some springbars because the ones that were on the watch were too thick to fit the strap through

>>60233992
Just jumping n here by scrolling threads. Why do you all wear these canvas looking straps? do you not realize how fucking nerdy and terrible they look? Fucking hell.

>>60235341
Thats great. At least you can return it, Jamal.

>>60233921
A quartz oscillator looks like a tuning fork, it's actually a sine wave

>>60235224
You can find King Quartz or SQ models for way less than that AFAIK.

>>60235341
Is that a raketa? It seems to be broken.

>>60229994
Music equipment
>tfw companies sell new "relic'd" guitars with scratches, dents, and wear created at the factory so it looks like you have an old guitar

>>60235529
yes it is
how do you thing its broken?

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What's the craze with this colour style? Especially the one on the left

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>>60230065
my only watch. missing the bracelet though. Think I'll put it back on after my trip to Israel.

>>60235642
Must be all the RAF pilots

>>60235664
Oysters look better on a strap
Why not try a navy alligator?

>>60235777
>Why not try a navy alligator?
that would look really nice I'm sure. I'm currently saving to upgrade to a sub so shelling out for a gator strap wouldn't help me with that goal.

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>>60235664
That rubber strap looks terrible on it. I'm kinda debating between a Perpetual 39 and a Subby no-date myself.

>>60235879
I get mixed reviews. It's a love it or hate it ting. Watchuseek had people asking what band it was because they loved it. personally wish I went with the black one

>>60235879
>Perpetual 39 and a Subby no-date
tough call. both are awesome. The sub is a little more timeless

>>60235879
They're different types of watches: Dressy sports and diver.

The sub is the better choice, but you may need a backup watch for formal occasions.

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>>60235934
Yea I love its versatility. I am strongly leaning towards it because while on vacation with my friends everytime he brings out his subby(submariner 16610) some idiot thinks its a Casio. These looks distinctly unique as well as Rolex at the same time, its hard to explain.

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>>60235982
have you seen the rhodium dial in person yet? it's what I wanted originally but I found it bland in person whereas the blue had a beautiful contrasting color to the case.

>>60235982
>some idiot thinks its a Casio
>implying that's a bad thing

>>60236014
not him but I really liked the rhodium over the blue - the blue was kind of loud for me in person (especially with the green pips)

>>60235375

It's a good alternative to metal during warm weather. That's my reason.

I sweat like a savage.

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>>60235664
You should consider getting an EULIT Palma in blue to go with that.

For anyone in NYC, stopped by the Omega boutique downtown at Brookfield place tonight and they had about fifteen pieces on loan from the Omega museum. No pictures were allowed unfortunately but they had, among others, an ana-digi olympic chronograph, a number of 60s speedmasters, a ploprof, a cosmic, a 70s quartz marine chronometer, a collection of seamasters back to the 30s. The sales associate told me they would be around for "about a week".

>>60235777
Whats dat

>>60236051
I love how the grape is never part of the conversation. kek

>>60236105
Royal Air Force

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Can someone explain this watch to me?
Why does this watch have 4 small dots to count the minuets after all the hours except for 12 and 6? 12 has 3 and 6 has 4 on the left and 3 on the right?

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>>60236247
>Explain
It's dogshit.

>>60236247

The dial is made out of cardboard. True story.

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So I'm thinking of copping Vostok amphibia scuba dude, but I'm seeing slight differences from a few images, and don't want to buy a fake watch (not that it matters much that it's "authentic" plus its ~50 bucks).
But I see some with and some without white outline around the day window.
Do authentic ones come with or without, or either?
Do they make them both with and without?
What am I looking at here?

>>60235642
>What's the craze with this colour style? Especially the one on the left
It just looks great. It has a certain objectively good aesthetic to it. I dislike the one in the middle and I think that the green on the one on the end should be darker, but in general it looks nice, especially the leftmost.

>>60236247
they can't into symmetry
the numerals take up too much space

>>60236014
>>60235982
Did Archie ever give his opinion about this watch?

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>>60235963
I am only going to own one Rolex if I were to go with the Perpetual 39 I would pair it with a Tudor Black Bay in Nato.

>>60236657
I never heard of Tudor, I am assuming it is a subsidy of Tissot or Swatch. That being said this looks like a nice homage to the James Bond watch that people kept posting here.

>>60236657
Better go with a sub and a nice dress watch from another brand

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>>60236705
>I never heard of Tudor, I am assuming it is a subsidy of Tissot or Swatch.

>>60236878
One thing I hate about the Sub is no one will ever comment or ask "hey what watch is that?" This shit though, this fucker stand out like a mofo. Honestly this makes me shallow or vain, but I don't care if I am wearing a Rolex I kinda want people to know I am wearing a fucking Rolex.

>>60236924
You'd get along great with a guy called Archibald Chesterfield III

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>>60236878
Honestly, I don't get all the love for the sub, especially the current maxi-case monstrosity. I would, without exaggeration, take an in-house Pelagos over a sub even if they were the same price.

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>>60236705
>I never heard of Tudor, I am assuming it is a subsidy of Tissot or Swatch.

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The only debate we should be having right now...

>>60237191

>wrist or bone
Bone, always.

>>60237191

B L U E
L
U
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>>60237254
http://www.strawpoll.me/12904026/r

Best and only smart choice.

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>>60237191
blue

A friend asked me a pretty odd question today: Is it true that Rolexes are inaudible if its a genuine Rolex in question?

Now I highly doubt it that they are that quite, but how noticeable is the ticking?

>>60237482
Your friend might just have shit hearing. In a quiet environment you'll be able to hear the ticking, or the rotor if you put it next to your ear.

>>60237356
The blue sucks in some light situation, case in point. It looks great in the Rolex showroom lighting however.

>>60237191
Fuuuu so I asked WUS and they told me to get both...

>>60236396
both are legit.

I think the non framed one is slightly more teal from the photos I have seen.

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>chronometer grade movement
>Hodinkee-approved
>worn and wound approved
>immaculate finish
>gorgeous

But you don't like it.... because it's 'Made in Germany'. Not 'Made in Japan', or 'Swiss Made'.

Sad.

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>>60237923
I have nothing against watches made in Germany.

>>60237982
you're one of the enlightened

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>>60235982
>because while on vacation with my friends everytime he brings out his subby(submariner 16610) some idiot thinks its a Casio
oy vey how ever will they know how important i am and how refined my tastes are

>>60237923
Better choice than a fucking Tag or Movado. However I don't give a shit about the approvals of Hodinkee or WW.

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>>60237923
Don't particularly care for the styling of the dial/bezel. I'd rather take a DK101.

>>60238032
Certainly, but those can't be found. Trust me... I've tried.

>>60238007
Hodinkee holds no clout?

Why do so many ppl in these threads adore 'archie luxury', and spurn any other reviewer?

>>60237923
Who the fuck has ever talked shit about watches made in Germany on a any sort of categorical basis? People shitpost about Nomos because they hate the styling, or complain about Sinn's getting too expensive, or Damasko's being too ugly, but no one even alleges that German watches are shit as a whole.

>>60238064
just because people treat archie like a mascot doesn't mean they think he's actually worth listening to.

Hodinkee has some interesting writing but a lot of it is really just advertising. When was the last time Hodinkee wrote a categorically negative review of a watch?

>>60238064
People find Archie funny. No one here takes him seriously as an arbiter of good taste.

And at least, unlike Hodinkee and all the other fucking blogs and YouTubers, he isn't a fucking paid shills who loves every fucking watch anyone will send him for free to "review."

>>60238064
I don't give a fuck about that fatfuck, honestly I only tune in once or twice to laugh at his misery.

>>60238075
>>60238090
choosing watches Hodinkee likes, to review, doesn't make them shills.

archie luxury is the alex jones of the watch world. a performance artist.

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>>60238112
>Alex Jones also does watch reviews
So basically just Alex Jones?

>>60238059
Would also be nice if damasko made the DK105 slightly smaller, but the H35 looks like a pretty big movement.

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While we are on the subject German watches, what is /wt/'s opinion on pic related? Anyone here ever heard of this company?

>>60238112
A site that does reviews that loves every watch they review is not a review site, its an advertising platform.

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>>60238204

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>>60238204

>>60238204
I'm totally ok with homages. For the price, you get a good watch.

>>60238204
Utterly derivative third rate shover of generic ETA movement into Chinese outsourced cases/dials/bracelets. Questionable quality control with fairly widespread reports of QC issues. Any of their own designs that aren't straight up rip-offs of another company's designs are hideous beyond all human comprehension.

Basically they are German Invicta. Avoid at all costs.

>>60238241
The last sentence gave it away anon...

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My German watch

Sw200 base with new bridges made in glashutte.

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What does /wt/ think about pic related. I saw this movie and I really wanted one now...

Where to get eulit straps other than from that website that is the first result in Google?

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>>60238385
>Charging £2,695.00 for an ETA 2836 based SHITTER
Gas chambers weren't enough.

>>60238385
Bremont is kind of overpriced for what you get compared to something like a bottom Swiss brand (Hamilton, Mido, etc). If you like the look and buy it for the look rather than its intrinsic value as a watch, it's okay I suppose. The 37x13 size looks pretty thick and the short flattish lugs with low attachment points to the case really don't help - and neither does the finishing/design on the sides of the case. For the price you're starting to get near Rolex, Grand Seiko, etc. territory which I would suggest you consider as alternatives.

>>60238492
http://www.yellys.ch/zub/zub-eulit-en.html or eBay. Holben's is the only official North American distributor as far as I know. I've purchased from them several times without issue.

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>>60238385
Kingsman was shit except for any scenes with Colin Firth who btw wears pic related in real life. That shit was nothing more than an overpriced product placement of a shit watch.

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>>60237923
>worn and wound approved
They'll approve anything for the correct price.

>>60238798
See
>>60238497
Fucking gas chambers weren't enough.

>>60229748
>>60229869

A stupid but hopefully related question. Which of the current seiko lines/movements do you think will attain the same status as the vintage king seikos and grand seikos and especially the 52xx movements?

I imagine the 7sxx and 4rxx movements will benefit from having a boat load of spare parts and even donor watches. Will the 6rxx be just as easy to maintain in the future?

In a similar vein, one worry I have for the current grand seiko movements is that seiko only guarantees that they will stock spare parts for 10 years.

>>60238895
The only two contenders I can think of are both chronographs: the 6sXX and the 8rXX, which are both excellent designs.

The 7s/4r/6r will not be well regarded for anything more than inexpensiveness and ease of parts access.

The current Grand Seiko movements are in a totally different tier than anything currently under the Seiko roof. As for spare parts keep in mind that the guarantee is 10 years of parts availability after they stop making the movement, and that parts replacements are not commonly needed at a regular service, meaning I would expect the parts supply to last at least 20-30 years after the movement is discontinued, and baring the adoption of silicon and/or a much more extensive use of MEMS technology, Grand Seiko at present has little incentive to change their caliber designs.

>>60238895
>seiko only guarantees that they will stock spare parts for 10 years
10 years beyond the movement cancellation, which for their current line up could be decades. 6R15 is a 4R with upgraded main and hairsprings only, they will happily accept even 7S parts for the most part even in a pinch.

>>60238990
So something like the 8r48? I am interested in getting the presage enamel chronograph, but the price is a bit steep.

>>60233901
>no fooking cunt gives a shit
He literally got more orders than he was able to complete in his lifetime though
Seems pretty accurate other than that.

>>60229655
That clockface and colors made me think of Workbench 1.3.

>>60236396
Older ones had the frame, and a nicer dial overall. New ones have a more plain colour and no frame.

>>60237191
I'll take the purple one thank you very much

>>60237923
Wow I sure am glad that worn&paidreviews likes a watch

>>60238218
>>60238221
this anime avatarfagging needs to stop, fucking stupid autists

>>60239451
>Doesn't understand what an avatar is
>other people are stupid autists

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>>60239451

>>60239521
>selecting one character or a running cast of characters to represent your fucking retarded online persona
>hurdur that's not an avatar because it's not the exact same image every time!
just going to hide your post recursively, you are both stupid and insufferable, I'm sure you're a pathetic sack of shit IRL just like you are here

>>60239549
Reaction images aren't the same thing as avatars. Are you really this stupid that this distinction has to be pointed out to you m8?

>>60239549
>selecting one character or a running cast of characters to represent your fucking retarded online persona

No one is doing that in this thread if you haven't noticed?

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>>60239607
>Reaction images aren't the same thing as avatars. Are you really this stupid that this distinction has to be pointed out to you m8?

When you make every post with the same image "theme" unrelated to anything being discussed it becomes avatarfagging.

I'm sure you're going to furiously type out some pic related nonsense where you nitpick semantics but we both know exactly what the fuck it is.

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>>60239658
>a couple posts by a couple of anons within 10 seconds of eachother
>literally only 1 post per person
>"theme"
Yeah, you're not going to be able to start claiming a poster has a "theme" to their posts when you have only a single post of theirs to complain about.

>>60238204
steinheart=vomit inducing shit
Not even once.jpg

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>>60234718
>>60235027
You could get a 20mm strap and notch it down to 18mm, it would have a similar effect to the bracelet that way. Or you could get one without hooded lugs.

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>>60235386
I thought it represented a quartz crystal in its raw form? I'm willing to be proved wrong though.

>>60235823
Get one of the cheap Vietnam croc straps from eBay.

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>>60236705
>I never heard of Tudor, I am assuming it is a subsidy of Tissot or Swatch.

>>60236098
>No pictures were allowed
Why? We're they afraid taking a photo would steal the watches' souls?

>>60230065

Be a real one and tell me which proxy bidding/shipping service you use.

>>60235192

I love my 013 it's like the ultimate daily beater

>>60237923
>because it's 'Made in Germany'
But anon, that's not really a German watch. It's a Swiss watch with a German made case (if that, who makes Sinn cases nowadays? Do they use Chinese caseblanks?)

German watches a cool. "Made in germany" watches that aren't really made in germany aren't; these are just more shit.

>>60235192

>makes 013 look like an 007

I'm looking at some Seiko quartz chronos, and they're nice but I'm worried that they all have Hardlex mineral glass crystals. I'd prefer sapphire, but is Hardlex reasonably scratch-resistant for an everyday watch, and could I possibly have it replaced with sapphire in the future?

>>60240476
Just polish it if it's scratched.

>>60238385
>Bremont
lmao
Their designs are that well overdone, swollen pilot look shit that's gotten old, fast and I wish the fad would just die already.

As for the company itself lol
As someone mentioned here, they're severely overpriced for what you get.

But keep in mind what happened a few years ago:
They go on a media blitz saying they have an in-house movement; rare for an English watch company as basically besides independents the English made movement has been extinct for 60 or so years.

Some autists online examined the pictures of the movement and determined that bremont had just bought it from some other swiss movement manufacture.

CEO, in probably the most pathetic attempt at damage control I've seen in this industry, basically clumsily tries to change the definition of "in-house" to "outsourced as fuck", and prays that it will a blow over. Throwing shit fits and lying through your bad, British teeth does not endear oneself with collectors.

Needless to say, the only people that buy bremont are morons who fall for the "muh made in England, muh empire" marketing, fewer now because of shit like above;have to rely on product placement to sell because they can't compete on merit and reputation alone.

They have no credibility, even less now after this debacle for at least the TAG CEO apologised for doing basically the same thing (bought a Seiko movement and called it their own), I think. No shame, just back to jewing morons.

And their watches look like shit.

Want a true British made watch?
Look at Roger W. Smith or some other independents. Better have a spare £200,000 on you though.

>>60240587
hardlex isn't acrylic, good luck polishing that

>>60240617
then get another watch

>>60240636
i'd have said change the crystal, but that works too

>>60240476
You will be happier un the long run with sapphire. The likelihood of replacing the stock crystal with an aftermarket sapphire that fits perfectly (provided someone bothered to make it for that model) is basically nil. Even if Seiko make a stock crystal to fit generally that case of theirs how are you going to go about obtaining it and replacing it?

Get what you want now. Don't hold out for nonexistent mods for dime a dozen quartz models that get reshuffled every few years.

/wt/, what's your daily driver?
My SKX007 dominates the rotation with like a 80% portion of wrist time.

>>60240711
snk803 3/4
ray 1/4
luch one-handed 1/100

strela still good? If so what models?

>>60230696
>>60240711
ntpd 100%

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>>60240711
My Ministry Amphibia with my terrible lume job. Though I've just restored an old handwinding tonneau-Amphibia and I've been wearing that for the last three days.

Seriously, what's with Vostoks and their wearability?

>>60240963
I don't know really. My vostok is ugly as hell and I still keep wearing it everyday.

>>60240476
>>60228189

>>60240963
What is that knoife m8?

>>60241959
An Opinel 8 carbon that I've refinished the handle of, with shellac.

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>>60229855
>>60229869
>>60229884
>>60229928
>>60229942
>>60229946

Thank you guys. I'll start lurking from here.

>>60240219
I use Buyee because you don't have to deposit with them to be able to bid on Y! JP Auctions, so you only pay if you win.

>>60240617
Diamond paste will polish hardlex, albiet very slowly.

>>60240704
Actually, assuming the model he is looking at uses a flat crystal, getting and installing a generic sapphire replacement wouldn't be too hard for a competent watchmaker. I've done it with a few vintage Seikos, including re-using the original metal crystal rings.

>>60240704
Not him but isn't replacing the crystal just a matter of popping the old one and measuring it with calipers? Can't be that hard

>>60237191
Grape.

>>60242974
Does a domed crystal make it much more difficulty? I guess the angle and pitch/rise could make things tough.

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>>60240711
SARB033

>>60243050
Yeah, it's just harder to get an exact match. For a flat crystal, generic sapphires are available in a wide array of diameters and thicknesses.

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>>60240711
I don't normally have a specific daily driver that dominates my rotation, though at the moment my Datejust is getting 100% wrist time as I'm in the middle of a worn accuracy test.

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>>60243136
>>60243136

>>60239696
you're talking to multiple people, you autistic faggot
>hurdur there's only one example in this particular thread therefore you are wrong
>ignore the fact that these same people do the same shit thread after thread
you stupid and disingenuous