/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

First for daily sudo pacman -Syyu

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install sourcemage

>>60143450
i want to start it by typing phpstorm/PhpStorm in dmenu
i dont want to start it with terminal because i dont want to have one useless terminal window opened all the time while i use storm.
I just want to type PHPStorm, hit enter.
Just like i start firefox/chromium, that is what i want.
Dont rly know to explain it better

>>60143550
Create a "bin" folder in your home folder
Add $HOME/bin in to your PATH
Mv your phpstorm script to $HOME/bin.
chmod +x phpstorm
Open dmenu and type phpstorm
Execute

>>60143447
>muh ganoos
Threadly reminder that grsec is closed source now and hardened Debian/Gentoo are dead.

>>60143447
How do I download linux? When I downloaded the online software it says I need to burn the software on a disk. I don't how to do that (I'm not tech savvy at all).

What do I do? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm horribly inexperienced with computers

>>60143589
>buy patches
>put patches in distro
>???
>profit

Its not as if they can mark the code to identify someone

>>60143616
>Its not as if they can mark the code to identify someone
lolz
Literally all they'd need to do is put a unique variable name for one of their variables per vendor.

>>60143616
The problem is the profit part.

>>60143651
>two people buy it
>diff
>???
>profit

wow that was hard

>>60143651
How are they going to pass hash checks anon? Provide a hash for each individual? That seems awfully suspicious.
>taking all this time out

>>60143669
>donate XXX once a month from server donations

>>60143700
Those patches are expensive.

>>60143737
And providing hosting for a distro isnt?
Buy the patch set, apply it to your hardened distro.Its not different then running donations for server bandwidth

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Fork grsec

newfag here, what is "grsec"?

>>60143772
You cant

>>60143772
Who's gonna adapt them for future kernel updates?
Sure, you can still use the last public pacthes now, but with each new kernel version the diff is just going to get larger.

>>60143772
and who's going to maintain and develop the fork ?

>>60143795
yes you can, don't be a fag, anything you do will be better and in compliance to the linux kernel, even linus torvalds agrees

>>60143815
give it time and gresecurity will be deprecated for the same people they ostracized

>>60143822
>linus torvalds
who?

>>60143840
the founder of facebook

>>60143813
>Who's gonna adapt them for future kernel updates?
that's probably the easiest part: only support LTS versions.
the harder part would be always getting the new grsec patches

>>60143795
You can. It's a derivative work from Linux kernel so it has to be GPL2 licensed.

>>60143786
It's a set of security patches for Linux kernel. Some distros shipped a "hardened" version with grsec applied.
It was never accepted into mainline kernel because it's an unmaintainable mess and grsec devs didn't want to do anything about it.

>>60143875
thanks

>>60143867
The new patches are not under gpl, but under there own gresec license.

>>60143772
>>60143815
/g/ does. I'll make the logo

>>60143838
i don't think so, grsec is a highly specialized set of patches and the team has been working on it for ~15 years. even if some team starts developing something new now (or forks grsec) it will still be at least another 5 years before they'll catch up and will be considered by any serious distro

How long until a fork is made?

>>60143904
which means the only currently viable option would be taking the latest set of patches, apply it to the latest LTS kernel tree, and try to keep them compatible.
new features / fixes / updates would be out of scope for now.

>>60143904
They have to be under GPL2 since it's a derivative work and violating the GPL would make potential clients unwilling to touch it with a 10-foot pole.
It's just that Spender will add a clause in the contract that redistributing will terminate the contract and you won't receive new versions of grsec. Ever.

>>60143937
There is a wip project here: https://github.com/kdave/grsecurity-patches/tree/master/wip
They have a patch for 4.9.25 but dunno if it even works

>>60143937
there are 30 posts in this thread and about 10 of them explain what the problem with forking currently is.

How much if the patches are exclusively bugfixes and kernel compatibility updates?

>>60143476
>daily
>not every minute

>>60143985
s/Spender/Spengler

I should learn to write some day.

are these patches even worth it?
isn't the kernel secure ootb?

>>60144029
ootb it's actually worse than windows 10's which is kinda embarrassing
Note that this post is not an endorsement of Windows 10 or MS' privacy practice in any way, shape or form

>>60144029
>isn't the kernel secure ootb?
No. Security hasn't been a priority in the development.

>>60144029
Linux cares little for security,he is all about performance for some reason.

>>60144029
>>60144067
>>60144072
>>60144088

niggers you are making it seem is not more secure because of its kernel, which is a deceit

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hello friends. im trying to clock my eeepc celeron M from 630mhz back up to its original 900mhz. ive read about software solutions but they are all ancient/broken dl links. whats a way to approach changing the FSB values?

>>60144099
You can find various quotes the past 10 years from linus stating he dosent care that much for security and is performance oreineted.
There are alot of bugs and holes that have been open for years that never got addressed for some reason.Check out the last big news of the decade old exploit found in the kernel.

>>60144067
>ootb it's actually worse than windows 10's which is kinda embarrassing
source ? or any examples ? it's hard to get worse then allowing everyone to get root by saying "hello, i'm a printer"

i mean, yeah, there are many security problems with linux, but under normal circumstances getting root is still harder than under windows especially if you use the default configurations provided with most programms

>>60144117
not what I said, I mean, at least clarify that kernel security is addressed at access from userland and if you put permissions on the table is far far more secure

>>60144099
but linux lacks security features in the kernel
which is ironic, because these very same guys (PaX team) came up with ASLR...

in any case, AFAIU, the real problem is, the grsec people (spengler) want to dump/merge all the patches at once, while the kernel devs just don't want to break shit

>>60144108
cpufrequtils ?

what does cpufreq-info say ?

>>60144067
care to prove your point?

>>60144151
security features = security

god fucking dammit, at least learn about CAPABILITIES

>>60144029
which patches?

>>60144108
maybe cpufreq-selector(1), idk

>>60144203
grsec adds a bunch of security features... and we wouldn't be talking about it if they weren't useful

>>60144243
so people can hack any distro without grsec?

To all you bitches claiming security feature at the kernel is the same as security, learn about LKM and how it adds selinux or apparmor

>>60144243
Yes, RBAC is the one thing not covered with selinux/apparmor

>>60144259
This is an example of what I meant with all this thread, you are all sreading FUD

>>60144151
>in any case, AFAIU, the real problem is, the grsec people (spengler) want to dump/merge all the patches at once, while the kernel devs just don't want to break shit
thats understandable from linus point of view

not really sure what happened with 3.X because it doesn't seem that different from 2.6 (compared to the step from 2.4 to 2.6), but why didn't they try to get them into the 3.X line ? that would have been the perfect moment to break compatibility with older kernels and would (should ? i don't really get 3.X) have had enough time and RCs to test everything

>>60144259
You have a gushing wound.
Would you just let it coagulate by its self over time.
Or
Would you apply a bandage to the wound to apply a clotting barrier?

>>60144259
No. As a normal, not paranoid user you wouldn't notice the difference. Most 0days mitigations are for example one of the features of grsec, think of it like an EMET on steroids.

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Been using my phone as a primary modem for a while now. Rcently they started throttling me to 15kbps during peak hours, so, want to get cable intenet. Can /g/ recommend me a cable modem to get? It'd be nice if it has open source components, no backdoors, low latency, etc. It'd also be nice if it can connect to my router via USB, as that is how my router is currently configured from connecting to my phone.

As a side note, I constantly get blocked from posting on 4chan due to whatever IP address my phone uses. What nonsense is this? Lets see if I can reply instead of starting a new thread...

>>60144259
Not as easily as windows

>>60144293
Not what he asked


At least you fags should remember that selinux/apparmor is packaged with many distros

>>60144319
>selinux
Not enabled by default in the kernel
>apparmour
Not enbled by default in the kernel

>selinux
>nsa created and still maintains code
Yeah,totally putting that on my system

Congrats, your ignorance on basic security terminology is going to be taken by winfags

Learn on linux capabilities
Learn on LKM
Learn to the role of permissions

And for fucks sake, if you already know this, SAY IT!

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can someone give me a quick rundown on the systemd controverse
?

>>60144397
fuck off

>>60144337
That is why AppArmor need more love, and is easier to setup

>>60144337
>Not enabled by default in the kernel
You have to patch and recompile the kernel to use grsec you retard.

>Yeah,totally putting that on my system
If only there was an alternative...
>>apparmour
IF ONLY...

>>60144337
>selinux
>Not enabled by default in the kernel
but compiled-in every major distributions kernel, so it's literally just writing 1 instead of 0 into a "file"

not sure about apparmour though.

>>60144201
>>60144128

http://www.cvedetails.com/product/32238/Microsoft-Windows-10.html?vendor_id=26
>2016: 172
>2017: 68
http://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33
>2016: 217
>2017: 266

Considering severity, number of cves with CVSS score >= 7:
>2016: 109
>2017: 28
and for linux kernel:
>2016: 90
>2017: 188
links are here: https://pastebin.com/p7hARPT7
The attitude towards implementing new security mitigations b/w MS and Linux is wildly different too, what helps Windows as well imo is that they are running a bug bounty with pretty nice payouts (in comparison to others) for researchers who are able to break their mitigations and offer better designs too.

>>60144397
how about you try to make up your own opinion ? it's not like you'll get a serious answer on a board dedicated to technology related shitposting

>>60144437
And here it is, the FUD that can only be ridden with a good basic knowledge of hacking

How are you going to get rid of this troll /fglt/? Do you know the difference between kernel exploitation vs user level access?

>>60143754
What the fuck are they gonna do? Make a new business and set up a new contract with grsec every time they use a new version? grsec stops providing corporations with the source code if they release it you know.

>>60144010
>>60143476
≥not setting up a script that pacman -Syyu 's every minute

>>60144437
Are you actually retarded or paid to be retarded?

CVEs are only assigned to *known* vulnerabilities.
Windows could have thousands of hidden critical vulnerabilities that are not public because only two people in China managed reverse-engineer them and they intend on using them.

number of CVEs != (in)security

>>60144483
And how are they going to identify one copy of the source code vs the other?
If they change any part of it between each other the security hashes will not match the publicized hashes for verification.

>>60144437
>this argument, again, for the nth time
protip: an undisclosed exploitable bug in windows mean lots of $$, and while it may mean the same on linux, most people will keep the windows ones secret while disclosing the linux ones (to, say, root android or whatever, i.e., $$$ for disclosing), simply because in the windows world, exploits are more profitable when kept secret.

>>60144473
If you are still scratching your heads, think on rootkit vs non-root users

And no, not implying the word root has the same meaning in both

>>60144072
this.

linux isn't really secure. take android as an example. enterprise distributions exist for a reason

>>60144437
Linux kernel development may not focus on security, however it is rather foolish to assume CVEs mean anything when comparing it with Windows, the de facto most insecure OS straight after android (and the latter is because of Google's incompetence)

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I warned you about winfags bro

>>60144437
there are some flaws with those statistics or at least the way they are presented.
e.g. which linux kernel line is meant ? shouldn't it be windows (all versions) vs linux, or windows 10 vs linux 4.10 or whatever is currently mainline ?

and if you compare the actual bugs, most of the windows bugs are listed as remote execution while most linux bugs as local DoS
and yeah, what i just said still doesn't mean shit because it's not that simple.

What ldflags should i use?

>>60144538
>linux isn't really secure. take android as an example
wut

My desktop runs Linux
My laptop runs Linux
My file server runs Linux
My router runs Linux
My phone runs Linux

Im this guy: >>60144317
plz halp

>>60144108
http://blog.patshead.com/2013/04/my-bios-is-limiting-my-cpu-clock-speed.html

>>60144610
apparently, an old version of kernel with backported shit loosely bolted on top constitutes a valid example of mainline Linux

Jesus fucking christ guys, cut it from root

More bugs found = more bugs fixed
Fewer bugs found = more bugs on the wild

Linux is more secure THANKS to people finding bugs, even if they don't solve it immediately

While on windows bugs are not fixed, becuase they are not even announced but used against windows users

I just completed the linux command line book. Should I try installing arch or am I too noob to try that? I just don't like the pre installed software that comes with all distros.

>>60144695
Try it. It's not difficult and the wiki has all the documentation, even though the installation guide is somehow vague on purpose.

>>60144540
this. i can pretty much log in into windows xp-10 by renaming cmd into accessibility programs and even do that on an encrypted partition via a one liner in recovery cmd and even extract the keys via another one liner (bitlocker)

>>60144622
>>60144317
do open source cable modems even exist? why not simply just use a openwrt router under the modem?

>>60144695
Arch is easy to install, you basically just follow the guide on their wiki and then skim through the General Recommendations to set up shit you like and want.

It's a nice experience and you'll know your way around the system better, but I'm willing to bet in two year's time you'll be sick of the effort you have to put into maintaining the system and migrate to something like Fedora or OpenSUSE.
Still, go for it, it helped me.

>>60144765
I *will* be using an OpenWRT router with the modem. Are you suggesting it literally does not matter what modem I get?

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what is the best distro for communists?

>>60144695
>I just don't like the pre installed software that comes with all distros.
every major distro offers a minimal image / installation.

>>60144835
redstar os

>>60144835
Red Star?

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>>60144437
>http://www.cvedetails.com/product/47/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html?vendor_id=33
>Android
found your problem

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>>60144835

>>60144695
arch is easy to install but you had to manually set up stuff like cjk fonts and that locale nightmare. the only reason i use it is the AUR and octopi and because manjaro was buggy back then. sadly the AUR is becoming less maintained. if you find systemd hafmful just go for manjaro openrc which i will replace arch with

So I've got a problem. I had multiple HDD failures and I've become incresingly paranoid about its use by the system. Before I always had hdparm to disable APM on boot with .xinitrc, because of that fucking clicking sound. However after booting from suspension something sets that fucking option to 128 again. Is there any way to completely nuke that feature without recompiling the kernel? Do I need to edit the zzz script? Running Void.

>>60144895
>>60144849
>>60144850
>>60144835
Beware, I heard it calls back to nk

>>60144695
if you hate preinstalled programs then you'll love KaOS and their selection. KaOS is lacking in packages tho especially x86

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Interrupting this thread to inform you all I've officially joined the ranks on the 1337 haxxors. And Windows isn't showing up on the boot menu, so this OS better fucking work.

>>60144971
Why hasn't anybody forked the DE? Just look at that shiny desktop.

>>60144835
RebeccaBlackOS

>>60144823
I suppose it doesn't matter, at least w.r.t features and shit.
I don't really know much about the topic, though. sorry

>>60144971
Yeah, I also did read it does. But why wouldn't he want the full blown communist experience while he's at it?

>>60144990
If you see the windows partition, is there, you just need to edit the grub menu

Welcome to best korea :)

>>60144780
>running arch 9 years
>has had to "go out of way" 3 times(systemd,xorg-1.8,openssl) to maintain system

I fail to see your point here.Read the news once a week and do a weekly update, and you're golden

>>60144990
Reconfig grub with osprober and it'll appear

>>60144835
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=estrellaroja

>>60144695
use architect installer to get arch, just be mindful that most des' install a bunch of their own preferred default programs so probably go with a wm or if you want a full blown de, get gnome-shell, it's gnome with no extras. most des' have a minimal version available but they often still include a lot of unnecessary stuff

so basically all distros are insecure and need special patches for security? why is this a thing? i thought linux is more secure than windows

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>>60145078
windows is malware, anything is more secure than windows

>>60145078
You really need to change the format of your baits

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Shoul I add/delete some features from gentoofetch?

>>60145115
yes, your name

>>60145078
>all distros are insecure and need special patches for security?
no, but Spengler makes money by spreading FUD to con people into buying his shitty "security" patches that actually introduce more bugs

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>>60145078
Never more fit to say, GNU/Linux is more secure than windows, linux is just a kernel

checkmate atheists

>>60145094
>pic
Anthony Hopkings should really just stick to acting eh

>>60145124
No way.

Reminder that (((GNU))) and (((GPL))) is literal communism and it was made by a (((communist))) (((jew))) (((Richard Stallman))).

>>60145194
If BSD general is dead, why don't you just make a new thread?

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>lost the battle to spread FUD about security
>change to spread FUD against GNU instead

>>60145027
>3 times
what about sysfs->udev ? oss->alsa ?

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Would I break my system by upgrading to debian stretch?

>>60145225
No (((anon))), (((jew))) software is a serious concern.

>>60145078
client side is secure due to permissions but if you plan on running a server then it's a different story.
servers are open to intrusion that is why sec and hardening is a must or getting an LTS distro with enterprise patches like centos.
im not saying that windows server sucks by default. they have patches but they kinda suck because you need to fucking restart all the time unlike linux. privilege escalation is a bitch with windows desktops and remote management via remote terminal is top-tier with unix/based systems. bsd* is better for servers imo. linux is best for HPC because linus values performance and C a lot plus theres plenty of HPC support for file systems and OS available. windows is consumer and normie office tier.

>>60145251
Depends on what system you're upgrading from?
Debian Jessie? Probably not.
Fedora? Yes.

>>60145227
> oss > alsa
voluntary.I got around to switching to also some time later,with no issues
> sysfs > udev
As easy as following upgrade information, didnt even have an issue

LineageOS is working on my tablet. Windows 10 is way to bloated for a tablet. Thanks /fglt/ Now i can take a shit in peace.

>>60145251
from jessie ? probably not. i don't think there were any fundamental changes in stretch

>>60145287
I'm on jessie.
I'm mostly worried about the sudden jump in version numbers for GNU nano, the version in jessie was many years old and the .nanorc format has changed since then.
It's going to break my syntax highlighting configs

Whites will be free when (((Richard Stallman))) is purged from white software. (((GPL))) forces whites to work for free, support MIT or BSD licenses for true freedom.

>>60145329
Pajeet pls go

>>60145358
Fuck off (((noseberg shekelstein)))

>>60145315
np

one just have to dig among the shitposting to find hidden gems in these threads

>>60145325
well, you custom configs might break . i think vim got updated to 8.0, awesomewm to 3.5 which also breaks compatibility with older configs, tmux, ....

>>60145131
>spreading FUD to con people into buying his shitty "security" patches
Can you provide us with an example of a kernel exploit that wouldn't be stopped by grsecurity with most/all of the features from here https://grsecurity.net/features.php enabled?
For kernel 4.9.11, for example, which has this vulnerability: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q1/471
>It can be exploited to gain kernel code execution from an unprivileged processes.

>patches that actually introduce more bugs
Like what? Also - security bugs or usability/compatibility bugs? I'm not Linux so I care about the former much more than about the latter.

>>60145408
>I'm not Linux
We know, Anon, we know

>>60145408
>I'm not Linux
fugg, *Linus
but I'm neither tbqh

>>60145408
>Like what?
Were you living under a rock all this time?
https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/724749571495075840
Best part is Spengler having a meltdown and blocking the guy who reported it.

>I'm not Linux
You may still save your face by saying what OS you're using instead.

>>60144895
>>60144971
>>60144996
>>60145016

>The operating system comes pre-installed with a number of applications that monitor its users. If the user tries to disable security functions, the operating system may restart or destroy itself. In addition, a watermarking tool is integrated into the system, which marks all media content with the user's hard drive serial number. This makes it possible for the North Korean authority to trace the spread of files. The system also has a hidden "anti-virus" software that is capable of removing censored files that are remotely stored by the North Korean secret service. There is a user group called "administrator" in the operating system. Users, however, can't gain full privileges to the system, even if they're administrators. Commands such as sudo and su are not available.

good lord

Gloabl rule nº3 https://www.4chan.org/rules#global

>>60145523
Shut up Pajeet.

>>60145456
>https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/724749571495075840
iirc this was caused by an underlying bug in the kernel, but I can't find the post from grsec forum where spengler was describing how and why the issue occured, and since I can't I'll give that one to you. Still, it's one DoS.
Any examples of priv escalations, RCEs, introduced or exploitable with grsec kernel? Cause vanilla kernel has plenty.
>Best part is Spengler having a meltdown
Hey I never claimed he wasn't a raging aspie but I think his patch is great.

> what OS you're using instead
Gentoo hardened, it's why I'm taking this whole issue so close to heart

>>60145551
you can link to rules directly >>>

>>60145543
And the best part is the browser is modified to use the huge LAN that NK internet is

>>60145574
>>>/global/3
>>>/4chan/3
test

>>60145551
>>>/global/rules/3

>>60145605
What's wrong with loving jews?

>>60145598
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>>60145543
> The North Korean government wants to track the underground market of USB flash drives used to exchange foreign films, music and writing,[11] and the system watermarks all files on portable media attached to computers.[12]

We should probably, like, invade this country and stuff

>>60145225
this

>>60145605
Fuck off Pajeet

>>60145456
He probably mean he's not Linus so he cares much more about security, rather than compatibily. That's what grsec did, and you should know even 10 years ago its future was unpredictable, and while being a massive clusterfuck of code it did what it was supposed to do most of the times. Being little alternatives out there, users just sticked to it and the other projects took the patches and partially changed them. Spengler has always been like that and the linux community is full of people such as him and worse such as Poettering.

Also what the fuck is happening for fucks sake, stop replying to that braindead using parentheses and baiting with windows and gpl

>>60143608
burn the image file on dvd with disk writing program then boot with this dvd in drive.

Is there any particular reason why Debian doesn't use sudo?

>>60145766
>sudo
Sudo a shit.

>>60145766
But it does

in your opinion, what are some underrated distros

>>60145766
i still have to find a usecase for sudo on porperly configured/set up systems.

>>60145833
debian doesn't come with sudo per default

>>60145851
Void, NixOS

>>60145851
by real word or /g/ standards ?

>>60145851
linux lite
source mage

>>60145852
>debian doesn't come with sudo per default
Except it does.
And even if it wouldn't and you'd have to go the extra mile of installing it from the official repos (you poor overworked anon) it still would count as using it.

>>60145918
>Except it does.
per default debian doesn't install sudo if you set a root password.
ofc you can install it from the repos if you need it, but it's included per default

>>60145851
KDE Neon

>>60145979
>if you set a root password.
And it will install it if you don't, which makes it just as default as other shit it installs without you telling it to do so.

>>60145078
Fedora, Redhat and CentOS are hardened out of the box

>>60145979
Why would you set a root password if you intend to use sudo?

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I am running KDE neon on x240 ( i5-4300U, turbo off ) and I constantly hear the fan. It's reagulary around 4516 ~ 4900 RPM. Is this normal? I don't remember such a "noises" on previous OS's.

>>60146124
More like, why wouldn't you?

What's up with the guy who's been posting ((())) for the past week or so.

>>60145873
both

>>60146124
how do you enter the recovery/maintenance console if you don't have a root password ? (seriously no idea, never tried that)

but it's still better to set up a root password and configure sudo yourself, because if you don't set a root password the default sudo config is ALL with your password which is pretty retarded.

>>60146124
because you should allow sudo only for a few commands you specify explicitely in the sudoers config.

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>>60146167
It's standard issue on /pol/. I think he's lost.

>>60145979
>if you set a root password
That's the point. Otherwise you get sudo.

>>60145851
GuixSD

>>60145882
>linux lite
is this bait?

anybody here uses this?
sys-auth/google-authenticator
Description: PAM Module for two step verification via mobile platform

>>60146084
incl. NSA

>>60146345
Gentoo hardened+selinux+iptables+local DNS

>>60146366
>selinux
lmao

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>>60143447
can anyone help me fix my phone?
screenshot isn't mine. It seems that something fucked up when I installed a stock rom.

Pic related, there's extra black pixels at the top of my status bar and the bottom part is cropped.

help

>>60146387
delete system32

Trying to get CodeBlocks running on my just-installed Debian. I downloaded it from the site and have what I guess is a zip-type file:

codeblocks_16.01_amd64_jessie.tar.xz

But unpacking it just gives me a maze of new folders, I can't find a launcher anywhere and codeblocks isn't appearing in applications or packages. How do I install it?

>>60146728
>tar.xz
is it prebuilt package

whatever, that website suggest using :v: for debian
>https://apt.jenslody.de/

>>60146298
for people coming from windows is not

Some days I am just trying out a bunch of software to figure out what I like the best. But then I end up with a bunch of crap to cleanup and stupid settings that I have had to do to make it work.

Is there any way to switch a system to a 'non-persistent' mode, such as when you boot from a live USB with no persistence?

>>60146882
You can try several system backup solutions like FSArchiver or Systemback, they let you revert your system to a previous state

>>60146882
look into snapshotting, either lvm or btrfs or zfs
or putting your configuration files in a vcs like git
also portage has depclean which will remove packages that are not depended on by the world set

>>60145851
Void
Nix
Fedora

>>60143447
How's Sling TV on Linux? I've heard you can run Sling on an android emulator on Linux. I'm trying to decide between Windows or Linux for an HTPC setup.

what is the best distro for anime?

>>60147076
Maybe Kodi (a.k.a. xmbc) has a plugin for it, check it

How do I edit shortcuts? My mousewheel is bound to paste for some reason, I can't scroll by holding it and moving the mouse up/down. Makes navigating long webpages (i.e. every thread on 4chan) a right pain in the arse.

>>60144964
Any thoughts?

>>60147085
Arch, undisputed

Is lsb_release available on all distros?

>>60147309
Distro? DE?

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>>60143447
Is cat a botnet? Are there any potential security risks introduced by using it?

>>60147510
not by default on gentoo, but is this correct anyway?

$ lsb_release 
LSB Version:    n/a

>>60143928
My hope is that eventually Spengler will sperg out hard enough for the mainstream kernel developers to finally start considering security.

I love Linux but fuck it's shittily written.

>>60147711
>considering security
atleast, before americans ban encryption

are there any alternative arch linux logos for screenfetch?

anyway i can use the old ribbon one?

i just hate seeing the fat man in the negative space every time. current logo is soooo fucking bad

>>60147966
use --ascii_art arch_old or old_arch, I don't remember which one was it
old one was so good, always remembered me of star trek

I'm thinking about installing linux on my school laptop. Is there a way to run and compile C# from CLI like you can python? I don't really want to use something with a GUI like Code or Monodevelop, I just want to be able to run a command like

csrun Program.cs

and be able to interact with it from there.

>>60148178
youll need mono for that

Okay so once I have mono installed, how do I compile and run .cs files?

>>60148332
>>60148394
meant to include you

>>60148394

mcs -out:foo.exe foo.cs
mono foo.exe

>>60148394
also check out

man mcs

for compile options

>>60148427
>>60148460
Okay, thanks. Also, how can I automatically generate the project structure that Visual Studio creates when you make a console application? I think my professor only accepts zipped VS projects.

>Using KDE on a sub-1080p screen
>Find Firefox' titlebar too big
How can I hide it, at least when maximized? Special rules for application or window?
I found a line to apply on KDE's config but it was for KDE4

>>60148527
You mean the window border?
>right click border
>more actions or something
>no border

>>60148484
>how can I automatically generate the project structure that Visual Studio creates when you make a console application?
i have no idea
>I think my professor only accepts zipped VS projects.
that is unacceptable unless your course is called "an introduction to Microsoft Visual Studio"

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>>60144187
>bash: cpufreq-info: command not found
>>60144629
i tried to muck about with those leads, but im on arch and don't have a rc.local, looks a mess to get it working

i tried editing /etc/default/cpupower to govern the cpu but, although the file save i persistant, lscpu still shows 630MHz

What is /fglt/'s opinion on btrfs?

What's the most American linux distro?

>>60149123
I like it but I think it has to mature some more, even though most of the problems should've been addressed by now? I'd rather go with ZFS if I need reliability.

>>60149154
TrumpOS?

>>60149154
There are no American linux distros because America discourages sharing and helping each other and encourages proprietary and money-making.

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>ask newbie linux question in FLT
>people straight out refuse to help and give me shit for being a newb

at least pajeets are trying to be helpful, you lot are scornful, unwilling to help

>>60149192
What's the question, friendo?

>>60149192
What question.

>>60149192
What are you talking about? These fellow autists helped me a lot.

>>60149154
Fedora/Redhat/CentOS

>>60149192
FGLT*

>>60149283
Maybe he's talking about some time ago.

>>60149192
install ubunut

>>60149192
>pajeets
It's time to stop this racist meme. Seriously.

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Is there any reason, security-wise, that I should switch to Hardened Gentoo from Fedora? With GRSecurity out of the picture, I'm wondering if Hardened Gentoo's other features make up for the hassle. Fedora preconfigures SELinux for me, too.

I've also considered Arch Linux just for the purposes of reducing bloat but again with them losing GRSecurity support I don't know that I want to bother.

Would there be any downsides of installing Linux and it's boot loader to a USB stick? I have a fast USB 3 64GB stick I'd be looking to install a *buntu install on. And I don't mean a live boot. I mean a full fledged install with updates and drivers. I'm doing this as opposed to dual booting with windows 10 because then I can sleep windows as it requires windows bootloader to do that.

I only use Linux for general purpose browsing, anime, and opening my encrypted containers to access my personal files.

>>60149310
Sure thing, Mohammed

>>60149355
yes

>>60149355
Not many. You should consider the dimensions of the stick if you're using a notebook. Also, sticks have a limited lifetime, if it's some cheap drive consider backing up dotfiles and everything else on at least a weekly basis. Performance wise, how many GB of ram do you have? Might consider loading on ram.

>>60149402
32GB of ddr4-2400mhz. Would that fast enough/enough capacity? How difficult is it to load into ram? The stick I have is some standard Kingston. I wouldn't be really writing too much to the USB stick. It would be more reading than anything.

Extending this idea, I can get my hands on a cheap m.2 SSD and put it inside an m.2 to USB 3.0 adapter.

How do I know what kernel version distribution use without downloading it and running uname?

>>60149622
most distros have package information available online
examples:
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux/
https://packages.debian.org/testing/kernel-image

>>60149590
With ubuntu you could use toram in the bootloader parameters, but tmpfs is your best bet probably, as most "desktop" distros do not natively do this

if i have a /boot partition, can i have multiple root partitions and while using the same kernel for all?
/dev/sda1 boot
/dev/sda2 gentoo
/dev/sda3 debian

>>60149881
Yes. But be sure to have the modules in each one.

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Can you bypass X server and communicate with evdev directly?

>>60150031
i don't know

>>60144498
>script
systemd timer*

>>60150114
That wasn't very helpful

>>60150132
>systemd timer*
has systemd claimed crond ?

How is iwd better than wpa-supplicant? Should I switch?

>>60149329
Fedora is hardened even without SELinux, same as Redhat and CentOS

>>60149329
seL4 is superior to any UNIX distribution

>install windows 10 on one hdd
>install linux on another
>boot into grub
>select windows 10
>blinking cursor
How can I fix this without erasing Windows?

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What the hell is going on with store.kde.org
I had to reinstall my distro and now I can't change my themes.

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ayyy, thanks friends, got my eee back up to 900MHz.

im still shit at linux so i just added modprobe and frequency-set lines in my openbox autostart, but it works for now.

>>60150741
You can't. Windows is a useless shitnigger that refuses to boot if it's not on what the BIOS presents as the primary hard drive. You have to change temporary boot order via BIOS/EFI.

>>60150741
>install windows 10
What is wrong with you?

>>60150990
It's mounted as /dev/sda and it is the first in BIOS.

>>60151067
What's your GRUB menuentry? You should be able to just chainload it.

I am new to linux, the distribution I downloaded has a network manager that makes me specify the security of the network before login in.
What other network manager can I use? I would like one similar to the windows one

>>60151095
NetworkManager is what it is. Your only other options are wicd (abandoned, somewhat glitchy), Connman (not all distributions and DEs support it), and the raw old fashioned Unix way that's clearly over your head at the moment. If NetworkManager is prompting you for a password every time you're doing something wrong with your desktop's keyring.

Hello, friendly Looonix users!
I've been using Linux for a few years now, and since I don't need Windows specific programs, it's been a great ride. My current favorite distro is Fedora, been using it for almost two years straight and updating it as soon as I can, never gave me any reasons to dislike it. It's easy, I can install anything I want with rpms, has a lot of compatibility, etc. I can focus on my work and not bother with stuff breaking on it's own, and has the latest upgrades.
This is not a RedHat shill, it's just me saying what makes me like this distro in particular.

Anyway, my questions for you guys are:

Should I keep using Fedora for the reasons I mentioned? I wanna be on Linux, having stability, good compatibility and not worrying about stuff breaking by itself.

I'm planning on using this computer as a home server in the future, so should I start using Debian to get more experience with it? How does Debian compare with the qualities I expect?

>>60151095
if its just a password, you probably want wpa/wpa2

>>60151128
What do you think its better network manager or wicd?

>>60151224
NetworkManager handles odd connections better and generally has better integration with Unity, GNOME, and KDE. I say go with it.

Are there any compression archive formats (like .tar.gz, .rar, .zip, etc..)
that is immune from decompression bombs?

Are there any other exploits related to archives I should be worried about?

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>>60151191
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60151277
^C

>>60151306
But what if, for example, you were making a site that allowed user file uploads like on 4chan, but for some reason allowed users to upload multiple files at once through a zip file
and then the server unzips the file.

I mean, what I'm doing is not as simple as adding more file upload boxes, it's more complex than that, and allowing someone to upload a single zipped file would solve it.
I could just build a much more complex web interface, but I'd like to avoid that if possible.

>>60151128
>>60151238
stop shilling NetworkManager
it's anti unix winfaggotry

>>60151224
you don't need a network manager, you can just use wpa_supplicant and dhclient
if you absolutely have to use network management nanny software, use wicd or one of these
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netctl
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Connman

>>60150963
>eee
Is that a 701 bro?

Trying to install Arch and I think I fucked up, I can't install grub it won't find an EFI directory what do?

>>60150963
how did you make that gradient in the terminal?

>>60151337
>>60151277

Interesting question, if you find a solution, report back.

>>60151356
install gentoo

>>60151356
arch is for advanced users only

Is Mint generally still pretty lightweight?
I'll be running it on an i5-2540m t420s with 8GB of RAM.

>>60151374
>>60151389
brb killing self.

>>60151401
Mint is generally crap.
>lightweight
Try Xubuntu.

>>60151401
Mint will run great on that.

>>60151078

 menuentry 'Windows 10 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-chain-3EFA8A01FA89B5A5' {
    savedefault
    insmod part_msdos
    insmod ntfs
    set root='hd0,msdos1'
    if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
      search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1  3EFA8A01FA89B5A5
    else
      search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3EFA8A01FA89B5A5
    fi
    parttool ${root} hidden-
    drivemap -s (hd0) ${root}
    chainloader +1 

I installed GRUB on /dev/sda

>>60151401
All distros a generally lightweight and run on every toaster. Jsut pick what you like.

>>60151434
>Windows 10
found your problem, you need to remove that and then install your distro

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>>60151344
yes, just upgraded to 2gb ram and now the full 900ghz

nice dubs

>>60151465
>no actual help
Coloured me surprised

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>>60151434
>unquoted variables

>>60151360
low opacity that hows the background
>>60151486

>>60151510
Blame GRUB

>>60151496
let it go, son
you deserve better than windows

>>60151486
Man I love that thing but I can't cope with the 4GB storage.

>>60151486
hey nice, I'm on arch too

>>60151191
Anyone?

>>60151637
Yes, Anyone.

>>60151191
>>60151637
Debian is really stale and the only way to get new packages is by using unstable repos, i would prefer CentOS for a server, but lately i have been trying FreeBSD with ezjail to encapsulate services and it works great, plus the documentation of FreeBSD is 10/10.

Now that the dust has settled, is systemd, dare I say it, /ourinit/?

>>60152069
((((no))))


those parenthesis are supposed to represent a literal echo right?

>>60143447
Thoughts on Linux Mint? Is Ubuntu flat out better?

>>60152132
Well, with Mint you have a crude hack that looks nice for newcomers. With Ubuntu you have a good distro with a faggot company behind it. Choose your poison.

What's the best distro?

>>60152132
Mint is better than Ubuntu, but you should really consider Antergos, Manjaro or installing Gentoo.

>>60152111 (checked)

Perhaps your trips tell the truth, but I know systemd is good cause reddit told me.

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>>60152315
>Mint is better than Ubuntu
You're joking, right?

So i just got a lenovo thinkpad and put archLinux on it. The most I've done on Linux before was using Ubuntu. What's a good lightweight desktop environment to use?

>>60152111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses

>>60152380
none

>>60152380
enlightment

>>60152380
KDE

Is there any reason to use a DM instead of just starting x manually from TTY? Part of the reason I use startx is just laziness on my part, in that I can easily start programs that have no systemd service and I'm too lazy to write one for in my xinitrc.

>>60152380
lxde

>>60151389
False, I installed arch with no prior linux experience. Difficult, but can be done.

GNU Thread: >>60152443

>>60152380
GNOME

>>60151637
I have been using debian exclusively for 8 years. No complains.

But if you like fedora I recommend you stick with it, it's a good distro.
While sticking to fedora you will have two options for a server(without having to get familiar with other system):

Fedora Server(it's fine for a home server, just use lvm snapshots before updates) ;

CentOS(gratis red hat) - Basically the same as fedora but it's serious about server.


The Debian/Fedora/CentOS server stack is not that different. You shouldn't have any trouble adapting.

>>60152380
i3

>>60152541
>i3
>de
retard

>>60152560
You don't need a DE if you have autism B-)

>>60152380
enlightment
lxde
lxqt(idk if it's already stable)
xfce(my choice)

>>60145851
Slackware

>>60146156
Try out a utility called thinkfan. Basically what it says on the tin.

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>>60152260
>>60152315
>>60152373
Enlightening. Thank you all.

>>60151637
in my experience things just 'breaking' isnt really very common in any distro i've used. if something doesnt work its because you messed something up, didnt configure something right, didnt install something you need to, etc. my experience is only over the course of a year or a year and a half, though.
anyways, no reason not to use something if you like it. If you're curious about other distros, try other distros in a vm or on a spare computer.

Running this command manually works
However calling it as a script no longer works with this error.Whats going wrong?

Trailing options were found on the commandline.
*.mkv: No such file or directory

#!/bin/sh
mkdir -p "done"
for file in *.mkv
do
    ffmpeg -i "$file" -c:a copy -vf "subtitles=$file"  "done/$file" -threads 12
done

>>60150313
> hardened even without SELinux

So, like it has the PIE stuff?

I freely admit I'm fucking illiterate when it comes to what Hardened Gentoo actually does.