/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>60082337
Not an argument.

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Third for Source Mage GNU/Linux

This pic is right though, people who feel entitled to everything expect everyone else to respect their property but conveniently forget the "social contract thing".

If you have shit, why would you not beat up a rich cuck and steal his shit? It's the sad reality of nature.

>>60082428
Reminder that property is theft.

>>60082383
Semi-GNU (almost 100% free software) based distros:
- Antergos
- Chakra
- antiX
- Salix

>>60082436
This. One can't be a free software enthusiast and defend the concept of "property" at the same time.

>>60082436
Even Marx criticized the lack of logic in that statement. (Even if there is a poorly worded concept there that make sense. Which happens to be shit but whatever.)

Jewish Friendly Distros (with lots of spyware and crapware)
- Netrunner
- TrueOS
- Elementary
- Red Hat
- Fedora
- SteamOS
- deepin
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>>60082423

>>60082456
Reactionary scum being violent and irrational as usual.

>>60082461
>Even Marx
Was he the one and only leftist thinker by any means?

>>60082477
>shooting commies
>irrational
it's an either/or kind of thing

>What is refracta?
Refracta is an operating system designed for home computer users. It provides a simple and familiar layout that most users will find very comfortable.
Refracta focuses on providing common applications and services that most users will need instead of trying to provide for more specialized uses. It provides a basic desktop with simple applications that are easy to use.

You do not need to install Refracta to try it out. You can run it entirely from the cd without making any changes to your current operating system. If you like it then you can install it in just a few minutes with a few clicks of the mouse.

The default install includes internet, graphic, multimedia, and office software along with various system tools and utilities. Hundreds more applications are available from a trusted source and can be quickly and easily installed.
http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/

>>60082506
Your containment board is that way: >>>/pol/

>Init Freedom

While Debian claims that “Systemd is becoming the de facto standard init system for Linux”, a number of GNU/Linux distributions, some new, beg to differ. While Debian claims that “It is better than existing alternatives for all of Debian’s current use cases”, these rebel GNU/Linux distributions refuse this one-size-fits-all vision of the *nix world that breaks portability, ignores backwards compatibility, and replaces existing services, forcing systemd into adoption.

Init Freedom is about restoring a sane approach to PID1, one that respects diversity and freedom of choice.

Although it’s true the venerable sysvinit has flaws that should be addressed in some way, systemd supporters wrongly claim that “systemd is overwhelmingly better than any existing alternative anywhere the technical architecture is involved.” The Init Freedom (IF) Campaign is here to disprove that claim.

>Alternate Init Systems

The following init systems are considered for inclusion in Devuan:

- sinit
- openrc
- runit
- s6
- shepherd

Each of them is a portable, compatible, small, fast, and secure alternative to systemd. None of them was considered by Debian as a replacement for sysvinit: instead they chose between systemd, sysvinit, and upstart, leaving the best options, in our opinion, off the table.

Blacklist from Devuan
The current blacklist is maintained in amprolla.conf:
>banpkgs: systemd,systemd-sysv

>>60082477
>>60082506
>implying Christian robocracy isn't the future
lol take a look at these fedora humanist plebs

>>60082522
whats wrong with systemd?

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>>60082428
>>60082436
>>60082454
Comparing data and physical property is a false analogy. They are not even close to being the same thing.

Imagine: instead of being able to use the poisson distribution formula to find the number of independent events in a fixed time, you have to pay for a license for PoissonFormPro, enter your inputs, and then at the end you only get the answer, instead of a proof of why this important thing is true

Now imagine it's like this for all of math: nobody actually knows how to calculate the volume of anything, because that's handled by CalcPro, which is owned by the Newton-Liebniz corporation, and you just have to trust that they're right, and hopefully they are, or else the spaceship you're trying to engineer is going to blow up.

Software is 100% the same thing and it's disgusting on every intellectual level that presently some people are ignorant enough to think that this is okay.

>>60082577
An Operating System (OS) is a set of programs that provides an interface to the hardware part of the computer: resource, device, power, and memory management belong to the OS.

The core of the OS in charge of operating the circuitry and managing peripherals is called the kernel. The default flavor of Devuan comes with Linux.

The first process launched after the kernel is loaded into memory is called init. This process bearing PID 1 is in charge of services running on the system: it ensures they start in order, control they’re running fine, shut them down, and inherit crashed processes. This init process MUST not die, or the whole system goes away with it. Therefore Devuan recommends using lean init systems that do one thing, and do it well. By default Jessie runs with the same init system as Debian Wheezy, the venerable sysvinit. Several projects are under way to provide runit, and sinit support in Devuan, as well as openrc and s6.

Services take care of normal functionality of your system: networking, logging, authentication, language, dictionary, search, software updates, printing, graphical display, etc.

>>60082566
that anti-systemd crap is annoying

>>60082612
Hi, Lennart.

>>60082522
what's the point a forking a project that only some days ago left beta state?

>>60082612
Hi Lennart Goldberg

can someone explain me why Linus hates EFF?

>>60082582
What's stopping you from coming up with your own version of calculus? Patents are evil, not people owning their own creation and distributing it as they like.

>>60082666
Nice trips Mr. Satan, but what does Linus NOT hate?

>>60082689
he likes GPL2

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>>60082604
>Services take care of normal functionality of your system: networking, logging, authentication, language, dictionary, search, software updates, printing, graphical display, etc.
Oh yeah, they're different services totally not like systemd just discount the fact that systemd is in fact a suite of tools not one monolithic program. In fact the entirety of it is 69 cleanly separated binaries each doing their own thing. Also, you must fail to comprehend that in a traditional Linux setup, sysvinit, start-stop-daemon, inetd, cron, dbus, all implemented its own scheme to execute processes with various configuration options. On systemd the code paths for all of this, for the configuration parsing, as well as the actual execution is shared. This means less code, less place for mistakes, less memory and cache pressure. Systemd haters are just plain fucking dumb, old init systems are a fucking mess, there is a reason that the vast majority of distro maintainers decided to use systemd. You're just too dumb to understand.

>>60082685
I'm sorry. Is English your first language?

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>we trigger /g/

>>60082764
>less place for mistakes
>Systemd haters are just plain fucking dumb
Hi Lennart Goldberg.

>>60082764
>(((Debian)))
>(((Ubuntu)))
>vast majority

>>60082789
it unironically isnt
From what I gathered from your post, your argument is that people owning code and selling it is a bad thing, because other people are not allowed to use it without a license. Do I have that right?

>>60082365
fucking communist

>>60082365
>9gag
kek

>>60082764
>in a traditional Linux setup, sysvinit, start-stop-daemon, inetd, cron, dbus, all implemented its own scheme to execute processes with various configuration options. On systemd the code paths for all of this, for the configuration parsing, as well as the actual execution is shared.
And I think basically everyone agrees that this is a Good Thing and a major improvement over the way things used to be.

It's all the horrible downsides that ins systemd come with these improvements that made a lot of people think twice.

I don't think any of the systemd haters, myself included, deny that systemd has brought a lot of improvements that were a long time coming. It's the question of whether all the downsides are worth it that is causing the consternation.

>there is a reason that the vast majority of distro maintainers decided to use systemd.
Are you a distro maintainer? Because I am.

Let me tell you why the vast majority of distro maintainers want systemd. It's because it's easier on the maintainers, and supporting multiple init systems is a pain in the ass. All valid reasons. But the degree to which systemd is better or worse than alternatives for the USER wasn't really a motivation.

>>60082365
>picture
those comies are welcome to try, but I also have the right to defend myself. Good luck with that

I'm wondering why /fglt/ recently got that much communist OP pictures? Is someone trying to push this thread into a political corner?

>>60082913
>It's because it's easier on the maintainers
>supporting multiple init systems is a pain in the ass.
Nobody was forcing anyone to support multiple init systems before systemd. What the fuck kind of argument is this?

>downsides
What?

>But the degree to which systemd is better or worse than alternatives for the USER wasn't really a motivation.
It's better for everyone

>Are you a distro maintainer? Because I am.
Go LARP somewhere else.

Hey, /fglt/ I need some advice/opinions on choosing a GPU for my first build, specifically driver performance.

I'm *not* looking to game on linux. My main concern is keeping temps down, and not killing the card while being able to watch the occasional chinese cartoon. I have heard that open source nvidia drivers have had a history of being bad, where AMD drivers are usually decent. Maybe I heard wrong, but I don't know, which is why I'm asking here.

Specifically, I'm comparing a 480x and a 1070 if that helps. Any input on personal driver performance would be helpful too. Thanks.

>init freedom
so systemd is bad because it's popular, right?
I'm all for software freedom, but init freedom is a meme, nobody is forced to use it and systemd is the wrong place to rant: if you think "systemd takes over!", then blame the people who ship it and start depending on it
>init freedom
nice meme, friends

>>60083070
>>60082566

>>60083070
piss off lennart

>>60083008
Cтoллмaн жил, Cтoллмaн жив, Cтoллмaн бyдeт жить.

>>60083067
install gentoo

>>60083108
Jokes on you, I intend on it. :^)

>>60083104
not an argument

>>60083070
>then blame the people who ship it and start depending on it
That's *exactly* what "init freedom" means. It means "please don't depend on it and don't ship it as a requirement".

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>>60082365
>gommunism

Kill yourself, GNU/Linux and free software isn't for spreading your filthy ideology.

>>60083137
but at the same time init freedom is building a community of hate against specific developers (who wrote free software) and a program (which is free software)

>>60083156
>building a community of hate
freedom

>>60083156
>but at the same time init freedom is building a community of hate against specific developers (who wrote free software) and a program (which is free software)
If anyone designs their free software in such a way to promote people relying on it unnecessarily, and explicitly try to foster community norms for using and depending on their software and to hell with anyone for whom that causes problems, I think they deserve hate, free software or not.

>>60083257
>I get hate mail for hacking on Open Source. People have started multiple "petitions" on petition web sites, asking me to stop working (google for it). Recently, people started collecting Bitcoins to hire a hitman for me (this really happened!).
https://plus.google.com/+LennartPoetteringTheOneAndOnly/posts/J2TZrTvu7vd

What is the best way to run Firefox in a sandbox? Or does anyone know how to run it as an unprivileged user?

Systemd FUD is the cancer killing /fglt/

>>60083285
>>I get hate mail for hacking on Open Source.
Hahaha, no. It's because you're an arrogant asshole who thinks he can do no wrong, Lennart.

>>60083348
firejail

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lol https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui

>>60083504
Not everyone is comfy with the command line, nerd.

I installed archbang on laptop, runs way more faster thqn windows

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>60083348
Make tails, dvd and run from ram, then clean ram...just a tip

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gnomefags still in denial

>>60083604
!25

>>60083504
installing

Sudo wipe /dev/sda10

I just left Arch cuz 3bleedingedge5me 4manyupdates6me. Recommended lightweight riceable distro that won't steal time away from my work?

>>60083713
By 'riceable', I mean something I won't have to gut too much to get rid of excess gimmicks and battery wasters

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>>60083676
!26

Su -

mount /dev/sda1

mkdir /mnt/dick

Mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/dick

nano /etc/locale
Israel

pacman -S nuke

error

Git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/israel-nuke

Cd israel-nuke

Makepkg -si
Cd

Nuke

>>60082456
>>60082506
>>60082872
>>60083008
>gommunism is evul, mmmmmmmmkay?
Can this meme please die already? It's not funny anymore!

>>60083713
I like manjaro

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fucks sakes why

on my ssh if that matters. not like it does, why the fuck would it

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>>60083285
Here. I made it into a friendly GNU/image form for easy consumption.

>>60000000

>>50000000

>>1

>>60083830
your mirrorlist may be outdated
try

# reflector --verbose --latest 10 --sort rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

or manually edit the mirrorlist.

>>40000000

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>>55555555

>>60083779
>nano
I'll take you seriously when you aren't posting from your phone.

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>>60083943

What VM software is there that can be ran on both Windows 8 and say, Debian? gonna run a basic *buntu on a work laptop that doesn't boot from USB, but thought I could combine this with learning VMs on my main workstation

>only heard about Virtualbox
>reads forums
>people talking about VB being dead/bloat/malware

>>60084053
Docker (not it have another name, much more efficient than any vm.)

I finally installed Linux but am having audio trouble, constant switching between both Line out and Headphones. any help?

>>60083070
has nothing to do with being popular
it was chosen overnight by debian for obscure reasons
It's adding many more issues than fixing anything
plus people like it because they are lazy and don't like to spend time setting up init properly
>>60083156
>hate against specific developers
the only one who said this was Lennard The Jew because he was trying to make himself a victim.

>>60084053
>people talking about VB being dead/bloat/malware

Did they also talk about their own mental retardation?
>dead
under constant development and gets new versions often
>bloat
le ebin bloat meme in 2017 with terabytes of storage. Yes, takes more space than qemu, but not unreasonably much
>malware
free (libre) software. You can compile it from GPL'd source yourself if you don't trust the oracle-made binaries.

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>60084107
What switches?

>>60084142
Gentoo for desktop, arch for laptop.

>>60084142
Free:
Debian LXDE/Xfce

Cuckietary:
Xubuntu, Lubuntu

Puppy is really really lightweight but idk about license policy.

>>60084148
the audio device in use constantly switches between the two.

>>60084173
More info?

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>>60084109
still a hate community

>>60084142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpVzC12GkM8
Also: Antergos and Salix.

>>60084157
i did it the other way around

>>60083947
Figured out what was wrong but I'm not happy with it

I had to add in google's nameservers to my resolv.conf. Both ipv4 and ipv6. Fucking why though, if it was working before... what changed?

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>>60084142

>>60084053
Yeah, might wanna avoid those forums.
Just use VirtualBox.

>>60084179
When I look at the audio panel in the system tray or In Audio volume settings I just constantly see it switching between Headphones and Line-Out.

>>60084142
Install Sparky with Lumina.

>Ever since the hack no one recommends Mint anymore
JUST

>>60084229
mint has always been shit

>>60084223
What distro, which version? Does this happens with a headphone plugged, unplugged or both?
Are you absolutely sure it didn't happen on windows?

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>>60084142
Source Mage GNU/Linux

>>60083846
his retard is saying someone hired a hitman to kill him because of systemd
He believes in 4chan trolls.
This is the guy who is the main responsible for coding BabbyInit (first name of systemd project)

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>>60084142

10/10 distro:
Chakra - Stable core, bleeding edge applications
https://chakralinux.org/

So I just installed Debian for the first time and during the installation it mentioned that non-free firmware was to be installed for my hardware. After looking into non-free software it seems that it's better to use only free software. Am I really putting myself at any risk using non-free packages / firmware? What are the downsides?

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>>60084006

>>60084245
I'm on the latest availabe version of Manjaro, It happens with both in-n-out.

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here we go boys

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Doesn't seem that bad

>>60084324
>Manjaro
meme

It's probably a distro bug(not joking). See if you find anything online, if not, report it.

>>60084341
>needing a gui
ok kid

>>60084349
>needing
kek

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>>60084349
Ask me how I know.

>>60083846
thanks
>The Linux community is dominated by western,white, straight, males in their 30s and 40s these days. I perfectly fit in that pattern, and the rubbish they pour over me is awful. I can only imagine that it is much worse for members of minorities, or people from different cultural backgrounds, in particular ones where losing face is a major issue.
as a western, white, straight, 30 year old male, I feel kind of.. insulted. What did I ever do to you, Poettering?

>>60084366
bcz arch usrs are typically cooler than u PWNED NOOB LOL

>>60084372
jokes on you, he's not really lennart pottering

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>>60084384
t. upset retardacher

>>60084305
depends do you have a video card? if you are using a notebook apu just install the non-free software there will be no problems since a distro with only free software is not meant for beginners

>>60084392
why do u think im upset duder.. im just havin a little giggle with ya ;-]

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>>60084341
nice shadow, faggot

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>>60084341
this part is questionable, though

>>60084401
>since a distro with only free software is not meant for beginners
why?

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>>60084426

>>60084430
You most likely have hardware that doesn't work properly without non-free software.

>>60084401
I do have an Nvidia card. I'm installing it on my laptop on a separate partition from windows. I also noticed the track pad was not working during installation.

So non-free software is fine since I'm a beginner?

>>60084349
my 60 year old father will finally be able to use youtube-dl instead of Video DownloadHelper malware that he is using now. Yes, I need a GUI, because he needs a GUI.
Bonus: Video DownloadHelper license excerpt:
" You must not reverse-engineer, modify, adapt or hack the Service in any way.

You agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell or exploit any portion of the Service, use of the Service, or access to the Service without the express written permission by Video DownloadHelper owners. "

>>60084464
too bad ur father is a scrub.. lol

>>60084430
how do you except people to install wifi, video card and fonts when they are not familiar with command line and packages?

>>60084472
>lol
>>>/f/acecuck

>>60084462
>So non-free software is fine since I'm a beginner?
what kind of stupid question is this? it depends of your needs
If you don't know Linux your only option is Mint/Ubuntu/LXLE/Lite Debian (stable) won't work good out of the box.

>>60084506
GNU/Linux*

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>>60084406

>>60084517
8%GNU/92% Linux

>>60084526
:)??

>>60084529
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

>>60084529
Looks like a pretty bloated kernel, tb h f am.

>>60084517
systemd/Linux*

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>>60084529
tfw when the kernel makes up 92% of the system

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>>60084464
i just like the convenience

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>>60084529

>>60084572
>Linus dies
>Jews at Red Hat and globalist germans like Lennart buy everyone in the development team
>They start to to implement their jewry in the kernel in the first release
:(((((

>>60084597
they will fork the linux kernel long before Linus dies.

somehow we recently have more image posts itt
what happened? (I like this)

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>>60084619
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>60084649
thank dr stalman

>>60084597
Don't you want to have a SystemdOS™ exclusively with GNOME®, free of all the linux flaws, provided by Red Hat™?

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is there a step by step guide from wendys into ballsdeep gnu+linux ?

>>60084649
Do we really need to go GNU/Deeper?

>>60084692
GNOME
>GNU + OME
In the near future people will be using Debian 6 with very minimal updates just because the latest distro is a mess
more like the people who use windows XP

>>60084692
whats wrong with that? aren't people allowed anymore to make their own distros?

>>60084293
>when their repos is fucked
I wanted that one and only gtk app that I needed, no luck

at the same time I love their thinking, Qt centric is nice

>>60084709
install ubunut

>>60084597
FreeBSD or OpenBSD

>>60084587
retarded weeb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzMKycKTJCM

>>60084736
chakra includes nvidia drives and some other shit software but it's a good distro
Not better than Antergos but almost as good

>>60084725
>GNOME comes out as complete OS
>people start pronouncing it with a silent g
>RMS pissed off people aren't respecting g'nu by skipping the g'
pottery

>>60084756
But Antergos is shit. Why not just install Arch?

>>60084709
Download any non-retarded distro and follow the instructions.

I recommend debian stable.

>>60083846
>whines about the OSS community being unfriendly
>fucks everything except Slackware and *BSD over by forcing systemd everywhere
lel

>>60084786
t. sys admin at need inc.

>>60084810
*neet inc.

>>60084755
>he ruined his YT recommendations for the rest of his life
top kek

>>60084786
>forcing systemd everywhere
but that's wrong you fucking retard
developers of programs decide for themselves if they depend on systemd or not

>>60084841
Who are you quoting?

I don't have a nsatube account.

>>60084777
because it's arch + greatness
plus it takes 40 minutes for a newbie to install arch (considering he has internet access via ethernet)

>>60084879
>he thinks he needs an account
T O P K E K
O
P
K
E
K

In August 2015, systemd now provides a login shell, callable via machinectl shell.

Graphical frontends

A few graphical frontends are available, including:

systemd-ui

Also known as systemadm, it is a simple GTK+-based graphical front-end for systemd. It provides a simple user interface to manage services and a graphical agent to request passwords from the user. As of 2014 the systemadm program has received little development or maintenance in the last few years, because development focus has shifted to command-line tools like systemctl and systemd-analyze.

systemd-kcm

Provides a graphical systemd frontend for the KDE Plasma 5 desktop. It integrates into the system settings window and allows monitoring and controlling of systemd units and logind sessions, as well as graphical editing of configuration files.

----------------------

“ I don’t actually have any particularly strong opinions on systemd itself. I’ve had issues with some of the core developers that I think are much too cavalier about bugs and compatibility, and I think some of the design details are insane (I dislike the binary logs, for example), but those are details, not big issues.”

—Linus Torvalds,

>>60084916
>he
The only other way they could track me is by cookies and fingerprint, which I don't save and spoof, respectively.

>Like it or not, systemd is here to stay.
https://www.linux.com/learn/understanding-and-using-systemd

I can't find a fucking ffmpeg command that works for joining some fucking porn mp4 short vids.

Can thou be my valentine?

>>60084945
>I can't find
Are you retarded? Try using a search engine.

>>60084945
ffmpeg -i gay.mp4 -i gay2.mp4 gay3.mp4

>>60084945
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate

>>60084945
It better be a sissy trainning music video.

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Concatenate

>>60084939
>Like it or not the jews decide what you should use
>like it or not we are supporting this

>>60084928
pls staph, i'm dying, you got a real knack for humor, man.

>>60085015
???

are BSD packages stable compared to debian/arch? who tests them before releas?

>>60085039
Yes, they are stable. The life cycle is similar to debian. Arch is a joke.

>>60085053
who are tests before release? also what's the pacman equivalent for BSD?

>>60085053
>>60085039
Sorry, was thinking about FreeBSD. OpenBSD is also stable. Idk about NetBSD.

>>60085065
pkg_add

>>60084879
>Who are you quoting?
>>>/s4s/
fuck off

>>60085065
>who are tests before release?
The community.

>pacman
pkg_add or ports

>>60085075
Are you upset?

>>60085082
all BSD distros use SysV ?

>>60085075
dude, he's funny anyway

>>60085110
Idk but none uses systemd if that is your concern.

where is the best place to learn how to rice linux?

>>60085137
https://www.google.com/ncr

>>60085137
https://kernelnewbies.org/

>>60085137
/g/ wiki read the sticky

look for the desktop thread on
>>>/wg/
>>>/trash/

Are all BSD systems garbage?

>>60085137
GNU/Linux*

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>>60085190
DELET

>>60085121
when a new bsd release is out do I run update or do I have to migrate to the (let's say 11.2) release?

>>60085215
I didn't understand shit.
I'm going to assume that you want to know if it's necessary to reinstall after every release.

Yes, you can update from one release to the other without reinstalling.

>>60085215
>>60085246
Pretty bad when a samefag doesn't understand the questions.

>>60085246
ubuntu requires you upgrading ... like from 14.04 to 14.02
That's what I meant

what are some comfy fonts for tty?
i'm using ter-v12n [terminus 12pt] right now.

How can I stop distrohopping? I'm on Debian Testing right now and I've never been happier with my OS. Everything works yet I miss Arch breaking up every now and then.

*14.04.2

>>60085266
Ohh, you want to know if it's rolling release then. I don't recall any major bsd that is rolling release. (only arch neets like that)

I want to see a SINGLE ARGUMENT pro-Systemd

I'm not asking 2, 3 or even a wall of text. JUST GIVE ME 1
FUCKING ONE

>>60085301
it works

>>60085301
It has a cool logo.

>>60085301
Faster.

>>60085281
why do you hate arch?
>>60085308
windows 10 works to

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>>60084983
my nigga

>>60085316
I don't hate arch.

>>60085316
systemd doesn't work on windows 10

>>60085301
pottering is a qt

>>60085176
thanks anon

>>60085192
my bad

>>60085316
Arch killed my parents!

>>60085267
>no one uses tty
Fucken Babbies

>>60082365

>op says users of all levels welcome
>posts wall of links to read first
>see honest questions responded to by install gentoo
>others told to fuck off to /s4s/

Y'all really aren't going to get much traction this way.

>>60085308
>>60085312
>>60085314
Systemd popularity is purely the result of an aggressive, dictatorial marketing strategy including elements such as:

— Engulfing other "essential" system components like udev and making them difficult or impossible to use without systemd (but see eudev).

— Setting up for API lock-in (having the DBus interfaces provided by systemd become a necessary API that user-level programs depend on).

— Dictating policy rather than being scoped such that the user, administrator, or systems integrator (distribution) has to provide glue. This eliminates bikesheds and thereby fast-tracks adoption at the expense of flexibility and diversity.

>>60085316
The real question is why does he like BSD?

>>60085394
There was a time when generals were called "reddit". Yet now no one complains.
also faglet is a "GNU tools with GNU/Linux kernel built by GNU tools" circlejerk.

>>60085426
Sure seems to be working. Almost every distro switched to it. Are they really that gullible, or are you just full of derp?

>>60085475
When the bolsheviks tried the first coup in 1905 everyone(virtually)didn't take them seriously.
They failed. Many people warned that they should be killed by the white army but the Tsar didn't listen, he instead went to make deals with them
A few years later in 1917 they killed everyone and spread the judeo-bolshevik to the world

People who think systemd is harmless are acting like the Tsar in 1905.

*the judeo-bolshevik ideology

>>60085533
>>60085523
I bought Warcraft 3 years ago, and I can't download CCleaner or something. Having looked at a few ahead but it makes no difference. Long story short I want to go this route if you aren't using them at that price or slightly more, myself.

>>60085523
>>>/pol/

>>60085523
At least you didn't bring up Hitler.

Has anyone managed to get Arch working on a Chromebook? The Arch fork of Crouton (Chroagh) hasn't been updated in years and doesn't work, and the archwiki has dead links and doesn't even list my Chromebook model.

>>60085277
VMs are nice for toying around with different distros.

If there's 2 things I've learned with an absolute certainty that all the bullshit in all the /fglt/ threads in all the chans in the world will never shake, it's that systemd works fine, and BSD doesn't.

what is the best antivirus for linux?

>>60085592
sudo apt-get update

>>60085592
GPLv3

>>60085592
Common Sense >Current Year Edition

>>60085592
Panda DesktopSecure

>>60085592
common sense 2018

>>60085592
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/security

>>60085592
Free Software™

whats all the fuzz about systemd recently?
can someone give me a quick roundup what it's all about?
is systemd a botnet?

>>60085780
don't bother, it's just a meme

I'm trying to use this script to only allow one instance of mpv at once. Can someone explain to me how I go about using it?

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/TOOLS/umpv

>using watch for stuff
>suddenly

watch watch

>it's just the help
How did GNU\linux disappoint you?

>>60085883
>How did GNU\linux disappoint you?
By never documenting the kernel.

>>60085830
Why not something like this:

$ smpv() { [ $(pidof mpv) ] && echo 'mpv is running' || mpv "$@"; }; smpv test.ogg
mpv is running
$

>>60085883
you didn't give the second watch any argument faggot

>>60085883
For more details see watch(1)

man 1 watch

>It's just man watch

>>60085954
How do I use the scripts through?

>>60083807
No, too many people still remember how shit it was.

>>60085996
$ mkdir ~/bin
$ export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/bin" # you should save this into your ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc
$ chmod +x myscript
$ mv myscript ~/bin
$ myscript gayporn.mkv

>>60086039
>$ export PATH="$PATH:$HOME/bin" # you should save this into your ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc
export PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" you want to use your binaries before the OS ones. ANd it must be saved in .bash_profile

>>60086061
.profile > .bash_profile

>>60086061
What if he later decides to switch to zsh?

>>60086075
What do you mean exactly?

>>60086090
I don't care about hipsters.

>>60085996
That's a function. You can just paste that to your ~/.bashrc
>>60086039
most distros will add ~/bin to your $PATH if ~/bin exists.
># set PATH so it includes user's private bin directories
>PATH="$HOME/bin:$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH"
or similar in ~/.profile

>>60086109
~/.profile is available everywhere, so it's better to set env vars there than in a specific shell profile.

>>60086188
bash doesn't run ~/.profile

>>60086192
the earth is flat

>>60086212
I just did the test.

>>60086239
your system is broken

>>60086270
No. It's a pristine arch system.

What is a good distro for a netbook (atom n280, 2gb ram)? I used arch years ago, but now
>Due to the decreasing popularity of i686 among the developers and the community, we have decided to phase out the support of this architecture.

>>60082428
>why would you not beat up a rich cuck and steal his shit?
Because we have rules. Not for the rich cuck, just for you.

>>60086295
any distro with LXDE or Openbox. FreeBSD should run fine also, but things like Lubuntu or Debian with LXDE are your best choices.

>>60086295
Debian stretch for fixed release, Void or Debian testing or sid for rolling.

>>60086192

source .profile

>>60086403
Yes I can do that. In what? In my .bash_profile? What for?

>>60086039
>>60086061
>>60086137
I still don't understand.

>>60086437
Windows doesn't have this problem.

>>60086457
friendly thread

>>60086457
THIS IS A CONTAINMENT THREAD DON'T COME IN HERE TO AGGRAVATE US MODS MODS MODS

>>60086457
DELTE THIS

>>60086430
.profile or .bash_profile depends on what distro (You) use.

>>60086466
>US

anyone have some good GNOME/GTK themes and/or icon packs with a sort of Material Design look?

>>60086430
the little code snippet in .profile
>>60086137
tells bash to include ~/bin in you're path if ~/bin/exists
but this doesn't happen until you source .profile or login/logout.
Unlike .bashrc or .bash_history which is sourced every time you open a terminal.

>>60086552
.bash_profile*

https://elvish.io/
What do you make of this shell, /fglt/?

>>60086508
none of both load here
>echo "hello"

>>60086616
>UNDER CONSTRUCTION, DO NOT SHARE YET

>This site is under heavy construction; the author asks you to not post it on Hacker News or Reddit.

hmmmm

>>60086627
Have a look in /etc

>>60084890
What "greatness" does Antergos bring

>>60086616
>for Linux, macOS and BSD
dropped

>>60086710
easy to install

>>60085394
>y'all
hello toumblr

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I am trying to make my dekstop look like Windows 95 but can't find a Start menu icon. Can someone please help

>>60084157
Objectively [spoiler]true[/spoiler]

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>>60086616
>written in go and python

>>60086727
Arch is easy to install as well.
Like, I guess "easy" is relative, but I'd like to imagine the majority of GNU/Linux/UNIX users aren't illiterate, illogical, un-caring consumers of popular topics at a superficial level, with no drive to learn how things work at a fundamental level.

Perhaps that's not the case anymore haha

>>60086781
no

>>60086799
why are arch users so butthurt about distro like antergos and manjaro?

>>60086788
is she ok?

>>60086826
>she

>>60084366
>Using X when wayland exists
Faggotry deluxe.

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>it's a rolling release distro

>>60086799

what benefit is there to installing arch on your own instead of just using manjaro?

>>60086839
>using either when Xenocara exists

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>>60086781
Here ya go bud
>>60086819
It's not "about distro[s] like antergos and manjaro", it's "about the general decline statistically for users to desire higher (or, for that matter, fundamental) understanding of their system, leading to the equal decline in focus on efficiency/lowlevel development and shifted focus to higher level (higher level in the sense of high level programming [java, js, py, etc]) features that provide interfaces to people, lacking CLI developments for those who care"

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>>60086781

New thread: >>60086870

>>60086841
rolling is the best
up2date packages

>>60086888
>he needs to fix his distro every day

>>60086899
>failling for memes

New thread when?

>>60086845
Arch is the base system. Installing a distro based on a distro (based on a distro, based on a distro, ad infinitum) isn't efficient, and each link of the distro-chain adding their own biased... additions, isn't raw, it isn't firm. It's not simple anymore, as "simple" it is to install.

If you aren't a newbie, installing a raw/firm distro with a script either you've written yourself, or a script borrowed from someone else (I quite obviously prefer the former) will ease the time-consuming "typing". That said, I have an avg wpm of 126. Typing fast is not an issue for me, especially if the inputs are second nature by now.

That said, scripts do assist in acting as a super-fast way to handle inputs - a LOT faster than I could with 126 wpm, considering kernel level pedantices and all.

Again.
Simplicity should be raw. Simplicity shouldn't be "hide the junk behind a wall that the user won't peer behind".

It should be RAW. Fundamental. That's simple. Not whatever garbage Antergos or Manjaro is.

Another note:
I've experienced Manjaro, because I wanted to try its' "simplicity" at one point.
There were many issues, gripes, TROUBLES I had with it. Since it did defaults the way it wanted and added in more software I didn't need, I spent too much time 'cleaning' it than actually 'using' it.

These are just thoughts, not an essay - albeit long like one - so things may get disjointed in this post. And I apologise for that, though I give you benefit of the doubt to understand and adhere to the context of my words.

>>60086863
>>60086856
For some reason the scaling is weird with these, hmmm

>>60086934
How bad?

>>60086930
if arch is meant to be simple, why is it using systemd?

>>60086948
Simple for the devs.

>>60086948
:REPLY: >>60087017

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>>60086849

>>60086948
meanwhile on manjaro https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjaro-openrc/

>>60086948
As a user systemd is fuckton more simple than running 399 rc scripts consequently at startup. That's the reason why I don't use BSD

>>60087093
wew, didn't know systemd is actually KISS

>>60087110
Things that actually work is simple
Things that don't isn't