/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Why is it so hard to get debian working?
>installed debian testing without DE
>install xorg and i3
>start xorg
>screen resolution of every screen switches to 1024x768
>install pulseaudio
>doesn't work with firefox

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>59641768
Lubuntu

>>59641768

Sparky Linux.

https://sparkylinux.org/

Choose between LXDE, MATE, Lumina, Xfce or LXQt.

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>>59641768

Easy choice, join me

>>59641764
>install pulseaudio
>doesn't work with firefox
not a debian problem. firefox dropped pulse support

>>59641992
It's the other way around

>>59641992

This is the average poster on here.

>>59641992
>>59641764
firefox still has ALSA support, just ships with Pulseaudio by default. just compile it yourself with the pulse option disabled and ALSA enabled to use ALSA.

Does anyone know any good adapters that I can buy that will work out of the box for LInux? My current adapter (TL-wn823n) doesn't seem to work and even when I manually install drivers it still doesn't work. So does anyone know any out of the box working adapters? I'm on Arch Linux btw, thanks.

>>59642070
>I'm on Arch Linux btw, thanks.
No problem. We're always here for the freshest memes.

>>59642070
use a search engine anon

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>>59642070
>I'm on Arch Linux btw

>>59641992
>>59642035
>>59642068
Pulseaudio actually did not work at all

>2017
>not use efficient Wayland
>prefer 40 years old xorg-server
>2017
Oh shit.

>>59642172
stop namefagging

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>>59642172

>>59642172
>implying I haven't been using Xenocara since even before Wayland was even a thing

>>59641936
nice wallpaper, even if mei isn't that skinny

>>59642191
>>59642172

wow ur so advanced r u a hacker? wow u no how to install software other people made u so special u must be h4cker

You post the same picture day in and day out. Kill yourself, you pretentious retard.

>>59642133
hearty kek

>>59642070
>wn823n


You have full support from official tp-link webpage, here is the source (to compile):

http://www.tp-link.com/res/down/soft/TL-WN823N(EU)_V2_160315_Linux.zip

http://www.tp-link.com/en/download/TL-WN823N.html#Driver

be careful with the hw version: you can choose v1 or v2.

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>>59642250
easy there, i'll hack u, fgt.

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I've tried on 4 seperate occasions to install Ubuntu & it's flavors to work w/ different versions, and either the installer fails, I get locked out, the partition gets corrupted, etc.

Is there a beginner-friendly GNU/Linux distro that I can still dual-boot with Windows 7 on the same SSD? I'm looking at Debian but don't know too much.

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>>59642250

>>59642318
>old kernel
Install 4.11 from git-sources.

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>>59642323
>beginner-frienldy
>not shit
Fedora!

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Does anyone know why I'm getting the few pixel wide gap when I run this sequence of actions in Openbox? It's supposed to halve the window and move it to the side (manual tiling).

    <keybind key="W-Left">
      <action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
      <action name="MaximizeVert"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <width>50%</width>
      </action>
      <action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>west</direction></action>
    </keybind>

>>59642172
>>59642191
>>59642389
>>59642406
>>>/r/eddit

>>59642389
cloning next right now.

>>59642323
Fedora Rawhide - lastest version
write iso to usb with rufus/dd
dd if=fedora-rawhide.iso of=/dev/sdb
https://fedora.ip-connect.vn.ua/linux/development/rawhide/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-netinst-x86_64-Rawhide-20170328.n.0.iso

>>59642449
post your kernel size

>>59642424
Configure oopenbox to dishonor size hints.

>>59642478
me me big boy

root root 7.0M Mar 25 01:06 kernel-genkernel-x86_64-4.9.16-gentoo
root root 3.9M Mar 25 01:06 System.map-genkernel-x86_64-4.9.16-gentoo
root root  36M Mar 25 02:53 initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-4.9.16-gentoo

used ubuntu's 4.4.0-64 kernel config

>>59642406
>>59642463
Can I still install deb files or convert between them (like Steam)? That's pretty much the only dealbreaker, if I can't install anything I couldn't install in Ubuntu.

>>59642424
terminals always tweak their window size so they fit only full characters
try resizing one manually and you'll see what i mean, it snaps to each character size

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>>59642478
not him but heres mine

>>59642549

Wow, you're right. I just tested it with my file manager and it works flawlessly.
Thanks for the heads up.

>>59642553
fix ur fonts m8

>>59642545
that put me off escaping debian-based distros for quite a while as well
but no, there's always a way to install what you want to, don't let that stop you

>>59642545

You can install anything from fedora package manager yum:
yum search steam
yum install steam

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How do I fix this on arch linux?

Occasionally when I shut down my system I have to wait 1m30s for whatever reason.
I googled a bit and found that I should install watchdog but it doesn't solve the problem at all.

What do?

>>59642596
>>59642599
So if I burn a DVD of this and install it, there is an option to dual-boot along Win7? Thanks you guys, if I can I will try it this weekend.

>>59642590
whats wrong with my fonts?

>>59642586
np, you're not the first person to make the mistake of testing tiling with the first thing that comes to mind; a terminal

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>>59641936
>chrome
>how to install screenfetch
>terminal window is too small to accommodate correctly

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>>59642606
>taking a photo of your screen

>>59642586
You could install a different terminal or get one of the pached ones from the AUR.

>>59642665
I just used one I found online from someone with the same problem, I'm lazy.

>>59642665
How would you manage to take a screenshot of that?

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>>59642537
Very bad, how post code?
Your kernel contains a lot of things that you never use.
My also, but not so much.
My kernel 4.2M in size
>>59642553
At least not genkernel, still quite bloated, xz compression?
I use lz4.

>>59642665
have you tried taking a screenshot while the system is stuck killing your session?

>>59642606
pretty hard to say with just this information, does it always finish once the initial 1:30 is up? might just be some service not closing responsively, maybe a dead network mount?
if it never finished and the time just keeps extending, that might be that something is waiting on IO, IO lockups are the worst

Who here actually uses those more obscure, independent (as the babbies first linux page states) distros like Guix/Nix/Crux/etc.?

I'm not stating that in a hostile way, I'm genuinely curious. Legitimately distinct distros are more interesting than another "we took Ubuntu and changed the DE" fork.

>>59642070
go on ebay or amazon or your local store and buy a used atheros wifi card for $5.

atheros cards in the 9000 series don't use proprietary software so you can use it without compiling/downloading/installing anything.

If you have a chromebook laying around, they usually have free wifi cards.

>>59641936
>ubuntu

>>59642709
It shuts down once the timer runs out.
Other people have suggesting configuring the time limit in systemd to be 10 seconds since the problem is so random.

>>59642774
you can lower the timeout, but keep in mind that that isn't a fix, but a workaround, and gives less time for functional things to finish up (you might end up force-killing things that otherwise wouldn't have taken much longer, simply because 10 seconds wasn't enough grace time)

>>59642810
Also found this ticket at the systemd github
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1615

Seems like no one really knows what's going on there since it's still open since 2015.

>>59642699
kernel is LZ0 compressed. I probably have a few options enabled that i dont really need.

How do i set default apps on arch?
I want links to be opened with chromium and not some shitty default browser.
Many things are fucked up, halp pls

>i tried to change mimeinfo.cache or something like that file, but shit didnt helped

>>59642917
what DE are you using anon?

>>59641768
Manjaro GNU/Linux + OpenRC Xfce Edition

>>59642955
>DE
im using wm, i3

>>59642917
Arch has a great wiki, read it.

>>59642955
also this >>59642917 started recently, i think when i tried to instal vivaldi shit

>>59642616
DVD? Why? buy USB.
>>59642971
What file manager?

>>59642917
>"Arch is teaching you how the system works."

>>59642829
do you use chromium by chance?

>>59642996
Hey Dmitry, haven't seen you posting in a while. Do you have a bit time for circlejerking with me?

>>59642774
lrn2dmesg, nigger

>>59643024
Rude.

>>59642996
I'm a poorfag, have no spare USB's but some extra DVD's. Will it still work?

Also, should I use the 64-bit 1.3GB Live image at https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/ ?

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>>59641737
Today's pic in the OP is totally underrated.

>>59642996
thunar

nvm i fixed it, i didnt know that i need to change 2 files for mime, everything is fine now

What is the best way to reformat a pendrive? I tried from gparted to gdisk and it stills give me errors.

Some tables are corrupted, whenever I try to reformat with gdisk it tries to use the backup tables., doesn't work.

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>>59641737
reminder to use https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js/ to improve firefox privacy

>>59643183
I only made it work by making it fat32 on gparted btw. It sucks, because I need to save a shit load of data (pendrive is over 1.9TB)

>>59643021
I was fapping, now I have some free time.
>>59643048
DVD should work. You should use netinst image which installs system over internet.
Better download rawhide image which I gave.
>>59643082
man thunar
Right clik > open by default with...

>>59643019
No

>>59643024
journalctl -b tells me this before shutdown
/usr/lib/gdm/gdm-x-session[621]: sys:1: Warning: GChildWatchSource: Exit status of a child process was requested but ECHILD was received by waitpid(). Most likely the process is ignoring SIGCH

So the culprit is most likely gdm, but what do.

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>>59643183
>>59643213
Pls halp, fat32 sucks.

>>59643396
>what do
Install OpenBSD

>>59643183
>Gives me errors
Can you be more vague?

>be me
>undergrad software engineering
>in class, in a lab
>TA asks us to log on linux
>then says please go retrieve that file in the teachers public directory using terminal
>everyone starts panicking, "cd? cd what?" "how do I open this (text) file?" "how to copy it to my desktop"

I felt like a genius because I did this in 5sec. but at the same time its kind of sad.

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Why aren't you using Yggdrasil Linux/GNU/X?

>>59643558
I can't mount the pendrive. Messages on the gdisk says backup gpt corruption detected. When I try to mount it from a regular file browser it says ext4 is the wrong filesystem when it tries to autodetect it.

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>>59643573
good work anon

>>59643635
>LGX
What an awesome name. Why didn't that sattlee?

>defend constitutional rights
>(((Trump)))
Pick one

>>59643662
friendly thread, anon.

>>59643183

>wipefs --all /dev/your_drive
>cfdisk -z /dev/your_drive
>mkfs.ext4 -L "jabroni" /dev/your_drive

>>59643396

Replace GDM with LightDM.

>>59643640
do

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX 

Then try cfdisk

>>59643221
I have terrible internet and have no interest in bleeding-edge so should I stick with the normal 64-bit Fedora Workstation from their website?

>>59643707
>>59643740
thanks, will try

>>59643748
No, rawhide already updated, so you can upgrade it rarely.

i fell for the "unity is shit" meme
which DE should i switch to for maximum internet points? i need all my comfy keybindings like ctrl alt arrows to change the workspace or ctrl alt+num keys to resize and move the current window

>>59643890
i3 nigga

guys can someone give some quick help? windows is hijacking my uefi boot
more info >>5940595

>>59643949
correct thread >>59640595

>>59643932
but i3 isnt a DE

>>59642191
>he uses VLC
laughinggirls.jpg

>>59643976
I know that, but i3 > your average DE

>>59643994

I use mpv, most of the software on launcher i don't use, installed to test wayland.

>>59643890
xfce good de for xorg, but xorg deprecated since I born.

>>59641737
hello kde shill

107 for Elementary

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109 for Debian

Recently migrated to linux completely and I'm just fixing some comfort things, I have a NAS that I use irregularly and the way I set up mounting the share was just to add it to fstab but because that just mounts things at startup it means I need to reboot (or mount it manually) if I turn the NAS on after.

I was going to look into AutoFS but I just wanted to people had any opinions on the best method to handle it?

>>59644523
install gentoo

>>59644063
hello kde shill

>>59644063
>>59641737
accept me into your wire chatroom pls

>>59644620
>>59644633

hello kde shill

>>59644661
put your name back on

>>59644673
you need to go back to rebbit if you want names

>>59644682
accept me into your wire chatroom

>>59644706
no

what are linux users going to do now that linux is shutting down

>>59644729
pls I'll succ u

>>59644737
install gentoo

>>59644063
Aren't you that obnoxious C tard?

>>59644737
GNU/Linux*

>>59644829
Richardix/Linux

>>59644838
Richarx+Linux*

So, I'm connecting an external monitor through VGA on my laptop. If I choose extended desktop and I set the laptop screen as primary, the monitor screen goes black (the monitor enters to sleep mode) and if I choose the external monitor as primary, the laptop screen goes off.

Any ideas? I'm on Debian testing, xfce, and the open sources drivers of AMD.

>>59644886
>VGA
just why

>>59644886
Did you try arandr?

>>59644886
try

xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --right-of LVDS1

>>59644905
Shitty old 19" monitor that I'm using it in the university.

>>59644906
Yes, same thing as the xfce display manager.

Kill all linux subhumans, they're promoting communism and killing white jobs.

>>59644934
Already tried it. Funny thing is that you can see that the desktop is extended, since the the mouse goes all the way to the right without stopping at the edge, but the screen remains black.

>>59644975
would you mind showing me the ouput of xrandr ?

without params.

>>59644971
>white jobs
who cares

>>59644971
You gotta be a big time loser if any subhuman is killing your job

>>59644991
Blow your brains out nigger, you communist piece of shit

>>59645002
Ok

>>59644971
t. someone who has never worked in IT

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>>59644971
kys you're selve

>>59644778
you're not the real kde shill

>>59645060
I am though. I got a new job, moved to a new city and got married.

>>59645093
prove it by adding me to @helix
I'm dhcpcd

>>59645093
Hey, KDE shill- how the fuck do I into themes on KDE? Can you make it use GTK themes, so that I can have a uniform Arc light theme going? Cheers.

>>59644991

LVDS connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 194mm
   1366x768      60.02*+
   1280x720      59.86  
   1152x768      59.78  
   1024x768      59.92  
   800x600       59.86  
   848x480       59.66  
   720x480       59.71  
   640x480       59.38  

VGA-0 connected primary 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

   1440x900      74.92*+
   1440x900      60.02
   1280x1024     59.86  
   1024x768      59.92  
   800x600       59.86  
   848x480       59.66  
   720x480       59.71  
   640x480       59.38  

HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

I have the external monitor as primary and extended, but the laptop screen is off.

>>59645123
>Can you make it use GTK themes
yes, use qtconfig or whatever it's called

>>59645123
There are many KDE compatible themes and Arc is one of them. It depends on the version of KDE you are using, then look up look and feel, or themes manager.
>>59645107
Wait, let me install chromium first. I thought People don't actually go to the chat room any more --it's dead since I left.

>>59645173
There is a look and feel, yeah, but not for the light one.

>>59645134
good
try
xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --right-of LVDS
or

xrandr --output VGA --auto --right-of LVDS

The other command differs because my laptop names the VGA as VGA1. So it should work.

>>59645173
>chromium
botnet!

>>59645107
Done
>>59645198
Sorry if that's the case, you can talk to the KArc people about this

>>59645229
I did it with the VGA-0 and LVDS in the beginning. Same result. One of the two screens remains off.

According to the xrandr wiki of debian, you can set the outputs in the xorg.conf, although I have no idea how. And I don't have xorg.conf to start with.

>>59645282
thanks

Hey guys, I can't find any good discussion on linux graphics.

What are the main differences between the major DEs, such as Enlightenment, Cinnamon, LXDE, MATE, xfce? Additionally, what would be the arguments for and against installing just a WM with no DE?

If you don't feel like typing out an argument here, I would still much appreciate any links to pages or articles talking about this. A lot of what I found myself was either extremely superficial, or was just a circlejerk instead of a good comparison.

>>59645283
mm what about?

xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto --left-of LVDS

>>59645371
A DE = A WM + Panel + File manager + Control panel + Session manager etc

Even if someone thinks he's using just a WM, the WM itself is his DE

>>59645428
thanks cpt. obivous

>>59645428
>panel
I see that I am quite ignorant, please enlighten me

While we're at it, I've also seen people talk about bars/taskbars.

What exactly are those? Coming from a long-time Windows user, I presume it would be naive to assume the bar corresponds exactly to the windows taskbar (or does it?).

>>59645428
Quit being so autistic.
It's just easier to refer to "using a DE" when you have downloaded a full suite of DE utils including WM and everything else, and "using a WM" when you have only downloaded a WM separately and manulally selected all the other tools

>>59645482
Many DEs have their standard panel, it's basically the bottom panel. It's somewhat synonymous to taskbars. KDE has KDE panel, Cinnamon has Cinnamon panel etc. There are independent panels too. The "WM users" use independent panels because WMs don't provide you with panels. Such as you can use i3 with tint2 panel

>>59645524
But I was being technically correct

>>59645548
For example*

>>59645405
Same thing. Forgot to tell you that I tried with another monitor with HDMI, and it works fine with HDMI.

The thing is that the shitty monitor that I have only has VGA and DVI.

I want to believe that it can be fixed, but it seems that I'm gonna have to wait until they buy me a new monitor.

>>59645548
I see, thanks for the info. I have a much better understanding now, and I'm off to read through the arch wiki to learn more.

Since you're a KDE shill, can you tell me why I should use it? I'm looking to install void linux, and have started leaning slightly towards not installing a DE and getting the separate stuff on my own.

What is the best choice of dhcp client if I just want something that gets out of my way? I don't really need anything special. I don't even remember having to choose a dhcp client last time I installed arch.

>>59645618
systemd-networkd

Oh yeah another things - what's the wayland meme about? I hear it's going to eventually replace X, but as an end user, should I consider it or is it just a meme for those who want to be on the bleeding-edge?

>>59645618
dhcpcd or dhclient

don't listen to lennart here >>59645671

>>59645613
Pros
- Complete desktop ecosystem, KDE has it all
- Feature rich
- Customizable, and can be made to look very nice according to your taste
- Dolphin, KWin, Kdevelop, KDenlive are very good software
- File pickers have thumbnails (install konqueror)

Cons
- KDE can be slow in many hardware
- Default Wayland session hasn't landed yet
- It has bugs, more than GNOME

Thing with Linux is, you can try and discover your own preferences

>>59645694
>konqueror
do you know why it's so shit lately?
it can't even run youtube correctly

>>59645693
It looks like dhclient is better if I'm running GNOME since it seems like it integrates with GNOME's networking stuff while dhcpd doesn't. Is that correct? Or am I misinterpreting?

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>>59645694
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>59645596
wierd.

I ran out of ideas. Maybe under other DE/WM?

>>59645711
It's just a package that downloads dependencies required for the thumbnails in KDialog. I think KDE is focusing on konqueror anymore

I've decided to switch DE's, I have been running Cinnamon on Ubuntu 16.04 for a few months and I like the feel but it has too many random bugs, specifically my battery indicator has completely stopped recently. What should I use instead thats similar?

>>59645730
if you're running GNOME, you're also running NetworkManager, which as I recall used dhclient in the background when I was on debian and still using GNOME
with GNOME you needn't concern yourself with low level stuff like that
it should all be installed and configured automatically

>>59645694
Alright, that more or less matches my initial impression.

I'm gonna go ahead and try to fuck up my system on my own and then once that's done probably try out a DE to see how different it is.

Thanks for the advice and opinions!

>>59645694
GNU/Linux*

>>59645775
You don't need to, try live ISOs and see if you like it

good thread

>>59645794
good post

>>59645786
I'm tired of BotnetOS desu. I wanna switch.

>>59645682
Self-bump because I'm impatient. Does anyone have useful opinions on the topic?

why are graphics on qemu+kvm so shit?

>>59645794
>>59645799
some great posts right here guys

>>59645838
To give you some adventure.

>>59645834
Good luck
>>59645682
Wayland is a new display server that which is
1. More efficient and less power consuming
2, Made with better software technologies
3. Drastically reduces screen tearing in some machines

>>59645866
Sounds good, how good is the support right now for use in a primary day-to-day system?

>>59645885
GNOME is the only DE to truly support Wayland 2bh. KDE is the second to follow.

I want Cinnamon, Unity and Budgie to adopt it as well

>>59641737
>GNU/AnarchoLesbian !FCKH8/mLsU
filtered

Ok this is going to sound extremely autistic but Void apparently provides downloads for ISOs with or without musl: https://repo.voidlinux.eu/live/current/

The fuck should I use?

>>59645945
if this shit is accurate http://www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.html musl is quite a bit slower than glibc

>>59645945
Musl is made for embedded systems, mostly not compatible with Linux's software. I don't think there are many use cases of Musl in the desktop.

I wouldn't use the one with musl. Then again, I hate C

reminder

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dpkg/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/apt/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dnf/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yum/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/zypper-git/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xbps/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/portage-git/

>>59646008
Not meant as a replacement for pacman

>>59646015
I know, but the thing is, I can install any package easily on arch
which you can't say for other distros

>>59645945
Musl is faster, lightweight and not bloated and badly written like glib, but it's basically unusable for a desktop because tons of software only works with it. Void is great by the way.

>>59646088
>Musl is faster
No

>>59645905
What's Budgie going to do with BudgieWM?
Is Solus going to fork Wayland?

>>59646170
>fork Wayland?
Haven't heard anything about it. Solus team is too small for that

>>59643494
stop being fatass

>>59643740
>>59643707
I got an error at tying to mount after doing that

wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1,
       missing codepage or helper program, or other error

       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
       dmesg | tail or so.

Then when i do dmesg | tail I got

JBD2: no valid journal superblock found
EXT4-fs (loop1): error loading journal

Wat do?

>>59645093
So, that's why you weren't here for a while.
Glad you're not killing yourself.

>>59646170
>Is Solus going to fork Wayland?
I don't think anyone is stupid enough (besides Canonical) to do that.

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>>59646211
I made it! Found the solution https://nowardev.wordpress.com/2015/02/16/ext-4-jbd2-no-valid-journal-superblock-found/

I reformated the pendrive using cfdisk with the "-z" flag, then I gave it a new filesystem using mkfs.ext4 with the "-O ^has_journal" flag.

In case anyone buy a second hand pendrive you now know how to solve this shit.

>>59646073
SourceMage allows you to take any upstream source (with a sane build process) and package it into a spell/package which you can then manage

>>59646574
nice

>>59645134
are you sure it's off and not just a black picture?

Unetbootin vs rufus?

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When you,

emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse @world

after extracting the stage 3 tarball and chrooting in... are you recompiling everything that was in the stage 3 tarball with your compiler optimization flags (because the @world set includes the @system set)? For example... do you use gcc to recompile gcc? Does it replace itself?

>>59646731
I got trouble with unetbootin in the past. Are you trying to make a multi bootable USB? Try http://multicd.us/

>>59646840
Nah just trying to get a standard bootable USB from windows.

>>59646864
Then do use unetbootin, is the best you got for what I know.

>>59646878
Too late, got rufus already.

To be fair I've used both in the past for this purpose and found almost no difference, and no problems. I was just curious whether anyone here had strong opinions about one being definitely better than the other or something.

If I wanted to prevent usage of all terminals except TTYs, could I just not build PTY support in my kernel?

https://twitter.com/federicomena/status/847132617069776896/photo/1

How easy is it to set up a VPN on a server? I got a VPS but I do use it for webhosting. Could it feasibly do both?

>>59647464
Simple but insecure and easy to poke holes through

>>59646813
>are you recompiling everything that was in the stage 3 tarball
No, only what requires recompilation due to changes in USE flags and dependencies of packages that require recompilation. If you want to recompile everything you need to

emerge -ae @world

>do you use gcc to recompile gcc?
yes, you compile the new version using the gcc from stage3

>Does it replace itself?
Only if the major and minor versions match I think - not sure though. If new gcc is installed alongside the old one you can use gcc-config to choose which version to use.

>>59647464
>Could it feasibly do both?
yes it can do both... you might run into problems when you are trying to use a network that doesn't allow connections on ports other than 80/443, since you will want to use 443 for https traffic

vpn traffic can be on whatever you want but generally on 443 for compatibility. at work I can't use my normal (61194) port for VPN access so I set up iptables to forward 443 traffic to the correct 61194 port and connect to 443. obviously this prevents you from viewing the website over https from that IP

>>59646813
No, unless the package is updated or if it has new USE flags (--newuse). If you want to build everything you gotta use --emptytree

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>>59642967

is there any other reason to use gentoo than wasting time?

>>59648045
Absolutely not

>>59648045
it doesn't have systemd if you're into hating the newest and latest software

>>59648045
stress-testing your overclock

>>59648177
More like hating the newest NSA-sponsored bloatware

There is literally nothing wrong with runit

>>59645093
Are you back on openSUSE?

so I did this

$ while :; do eject; done &
$ disown
$ <Ctrl-d>

then I opened a new terminal and tried to find the process via htop
and I also tried

$ ps aux | grep while
$ ps aux | grep eject

and found nothing
the loop was running in the background, but the process was invisible
I couldn't kill it

can someone explain what's the deal here?
is this loop not a process?
are all processes/threads not visible via htop/ps?

>>59648045
showing online that you did

I know RedHat is more prelevant in the US, but which is bigger in Europe; Redhat or SUSE?

And is the general consensus here that OpenSUSE > Fedora? I don't see much positive speak of Fedora.

>>59648317
try while sleep 1; do eject; done and see what happens

>>59648360
it doesn't make any difference
if I put it in the background, the process would still be unkillable

>>59648381
did you try it? :^)

grep for "sleep"

>>59648417
okay, I can grep sleep
I guess the difference is that sleep is giving me some time to grep it
still doesn't answer my original question

I have a directory that has its permissions set to 644 and its owner set to my current user, and the same for any directories under it.

Despite this, cd-ing to the directory doesnt work (Permission denied), ls kind of works (it will list the files, but not before writing

ls: cannot access `dir/filename`: Permission denied

for every file in the directory), and opening the files in it all result in permission denied. Nautilus will open the directory, but I still cant open any files in the directory without getting permission errrors.

I've tried chmod -R 644 on the directory, as well as chown -R user:user on the directory and still get this issue.

Anyone have any idea what might be happening here?

>>59648463
bash should give you the pid when you put it into the background, you can kill it with that id

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Where can I find xorg.conf on a default install of xUbuntu 16.04?
I'm trying to save the "force fuill composition" option in nvidia-settings.

>>59648463
just look for a bash process in ps aux that doesn't have a pts associated with it
I don't know what would be a more normal way to find it and kill it

>>59647283
Yes. you'll get an error related to /dev/pty that you can ignore

>>59648508
Some distros don't ship an xorg.conf by default, but their xorg will still read one from /etc/X11/xorg.conf

I'm not 100% sure that's the case for xubuntu, but it's what I'd try.

>>59648489
>>59648509
oh I just found it
the process is called bash

Hello lads. When I use Fedora on my laptop and plug in headphones, it doesn't recognize them and continues to play sound out from the speakers. I know it's not a problem with the headphones or the jack because they both work when I boot into Windows. I tried muting speakers and maxing out headphone sound in alsamixer but it still didn't work. Anyone have any ideas?

>>59648508
>Today's X rarely requires manual configuration. X now automatically configures itself with >reasonable defaults. Both GNOME and KDE provide GUI utilities for customizing settings >beyond these defaults if you like.

>However, sometimes you need to muck with the configuration manually, beyond what these tools allow.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config

>>59648624
>wrap text

>>59648624
What he is trying to do actually does require an xorg.conf.

>>59648648
Yeah, That's why I linked him to the ubuntu wiki page with info on how to do that.

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>>59648561
lol

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>>59648624
that points to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-quirks.conf but I see a few inside.

>>59648561
that's what you get for using poetteringware
remove pulse audio

>>59648705
kys dumb memer

>>59648561
>fedora
found your problem
use a distro that doesn't force pulse audio down your throat

>>59648677
Your choice of what to put in your post seemed like you were trying to imply he was doing something wrong.

>>59648561
I had the same problem
then I removed pulse audio :^)

ghmm

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>>59648732
>asks where xorg.conf is in Ubuntu
>statement clarifying that it doesn't have one by default
>another statement saying that however it is sometimes necessary to create one
>link to wiki with instructions about how to do it


>Your choice of what to put in your post seemed like you were trying to imply he was doing something wrong
No. Your reading comprehension is just lacking. Is English your first language?

>>59648841
>>statement clarifying that it doesn't have one by default
>>another statement saying that however it is sometimes necessary to create one
I think your reading comprehension is what is at fault here.

Your post just says that X ships with sane defaults that can be edited. It does nothing to say that xorg.conf doesn't exist by default. The text in your post could just as easily mean that X automatically generates an xorg.conf with reasonable defaults.

>>59648730
i would have thought it was forced in your ears

how do you pronounce "xorg"?
ksorg?
zorg?
x-org?

>>59648914
cock

>>59648914
x dot org.

>>59648914
ex-org.

why is this thred so ded

>>59648914
cuckorg
>no copyleft

why aren't you using Source Mage yet, /g/?

Arch Linux user here
I thought xorg breaking after an update was a meme

I updated my system for the first time in a month last night and restarted my computer. Now, whenever I startx, I just get a black screen. Not only that, it's as if the backlight is turned off. I have keymaps that worked before for changing brightness, but those don't have any effect
What do I do? Reinstalling Nvidia did nothing

>>59649173
>updating after a month
>using Nvidia
you brought this upon yourself

>>59649173
>>59649186
I've been using arch for a year now
updating every day
never had a problem

>>59649222
thanks for blogging this

>>59649227
don't mentin it

>>59649173
any clues from ?

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE

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>>59649234
>cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
Seriously?

>>59649234
Failed to load nouveau, nv, fbdev, and vesa (modules don't exist)

>>59649252
whats wrong?

>>59649266

grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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>>59649173
>I updated my system for the first time in a month
>for the first time
>in a month
>a month

>>59649284
I know I know I was asking for trouble

>>59649284
why do they dress like that?

What's the best way to make terminal/framebuffer screenshots (for situations when X isn't running)?

>>59649173
>Reinstalling Nvidia did nothing
try removing it

>>59649326
Thanks, that fixed it

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>tfw no gnu/linux loving gf

>>59649389
gnu-dates.org when

>>59649309
they put on a "show"

>>59649353
did it?

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what is the most /metal/ distro?

>>59649535
blackarch

>>59649535
hardened gentoo

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>>59649535
>>59649547

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>>59649535
>>59649547
Error: I must wait 3 minutes 57 seconds before posting a duplicate reply.

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>slackware - traditional heavy metal (older than me)
>debian - thrash (not entirely normie, yet not extreme enough, pretty old)
>ubuntu - nu metal (absolute normie tier)
>solus - power metal (cringe inducing)
>fedora - glam (gay but still better than nu metal and power metal)
>arch - death metal (not "underground" enough, almost poser tier)
>antergos - melodic death (easier to get into)
>void - slam (as brutal as death metal gets)
>gentoo - black metal with good production (not "kvlt" enough)
>crux - blackened death metal
>source mage - trve kvlt black metal

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>>59649535
Black Arch

>>59649535
Arch with no desktop.

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>>59649535
All of them

>>59650203
>>59650179
>>59650169
is this official art?

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>>59650226
No, I just whipped them up. Pic related is theirs the rest was just improvised.

test

>>59650347
did it work?

>>59650358
yes

>>59642734
>Guix
I use it. I've also used NixOS. (Sadly, flaming faggot general poster removed Guix from the general)

GuixSD is not entirely ready for production yet but Guix sure is, you can drop it in on Debian. It's completely fucking awesome and once you use it you'll wonder why the hell would you ever go back to regular shitty packagers.

- all apps installed in non root directory, this means you can have dozens of different versions and access them individually
- complete dependency graph that doesn't interfere with any other packages
- configure entire system with just one file, in Scheme
- type 'guix environment' and you have a virtual environment similar to virtualenv/docker so you can build an app or whatever you want in there and deploy it exactly as in on any other server
- rollbacks! if anything breaks you simply roll the system back it's 100% a functional package manager so uses a persistent data structure to keep all the information, there's no destroyed data

Has a million other benefits, I'll never use anything besides a functional pkg manager again.

>>59650548
As an example you edit one file, and in scheme you tell it exactly how you want everything laid out, which packages you want preinstalled, ect.

Then you reboot and presto there's your new system. If something went wrong, roll it back.

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Number 300 for GNU Thread

NEW
>>59650666
>>59650666
>>59650666
>>59650666
>>59650666
^^^

>>59650202
lmao, this is perfect

>>59650202
what's new wave?
asking for a friend

>>59650756
>>59650202
samefag

>>59650854
nawakenaidaro

>>59650854
if you had any idea of metal, you would find it funny too fagget

>>59650874
>>59650869
>>59650202
>>59650756
samefag

>>59650915
assuming that's true, why do you feed me (You)'s?

>>59650915
>>59650854
samefag

>>59648914
gzorg

>>59650214
>nu-linux

>>59652245
It's clearly NUILINU

>>59641768
Puppy Linux.

>>59650854
>>59650915
>>59650949
stop samefagging