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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (try to use a search engine that respects your privacy such as searx, ixquick or startpage).

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768
/t/'s GNU/Linux Training Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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>>59628709
Gay?
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Who pure Wayland here? What are you're setups/applications?
I'm thinking of trying Gentoo with Sway (no X server) but I feel like there aren't any good browsers..
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>>59628709
ITT: What is wojak looking at?
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4nd for elementary
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>>59628784
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>>59628709
X2go is giving me a black screen. Do the DE's on both the client and the server have to match?
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>>59628784
this
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How do you pronounce /fglt/?

fuh-guh-luh-tuh?
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>>59628807
>X2go
Try a different remote desktop software
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>>59628891
foogy looty
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>>59628891
Why, talking about your hobbies now?
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I followed these instructions https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/blob/master/docs/linuxInstall.md to install the Brave Browser
curl https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/brave-apt/keys.asc | sudo apt-key add -
echo "deb [arch=amd64] https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/brave-apt `lsb_release -sc` main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-`lsb_release -sc`.list

but I got these errors
>The repository 'https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/brave-apt loki Release' does not have a Release file.
>Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
What I did wrong?
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>Change something in fstab

>Brick installation
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>>59629115
>Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
you probably need to use some sort of --force or --ignore-auth type argument
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>>59629145
can't you boot into a rescue disk, mount the filesystem and change whatever you did back?
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Reposting
>>59627436
>>59627436
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>>59628891
FLCL=Fooly Cooly
FGLT=>>59628925
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>>59629166
I don't really understand the question
you want another operating system that has access to /home ??

I don't think that's a good idea. You should really have a separate "data" partition since operating systems will have different program versions that will have configurations or data saved to /home that wouldn't be compatible between versions.
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>>59628904
Suggestions?
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>>59629145
>>59629160
Why not just tty?

>>59629169
>>59628925
Answer accepted
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>>59629231
any vnc implementation
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>>59629231
Remmina is the best imo
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>>59629160
Probably. I was just messing around in a VM because I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>59629115
And why do I have to use these programs I don't know what the fuck they do (curl, echo, tee) to install a repository?
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>>59628891
fah-guh-lut-Td
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this is my favorite subreddit
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>>59629385
*subchan
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>>59629349
>curl
gets the url, apt-key add - puts it in your local keys
>echo
prints the quoted text, which is piped (|) to the next command
>tee
writes from piped input to target -a "x"

basically text file manipulation for your source repos because they can't trust that you will know how to open an editor and paste the line in yourself
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>>59629385
>>59629420
/g/ rolling thread
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>>59629349
>>59629115
Once their copy paste junk didn't work you should've realized it was junk and moved on to something else.
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>>59629385
mine too! im having some trouble logging in though
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So maybe 6 months ago my 64 gig partition containing Ubuntu disappeared from my laptop. I had it dual booting with Windows 10 for maybe a year then the partition just disappeared. Is it safe to reinstall it?
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>>59629551
Sounds like Windows """fixed""" your bootloader.
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>>59629551
It's probably still there. You should be able to reinstall grub2 to the MBR from a live USB and fix it.

something *like*
sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda


>>59629551
>Is it safe to reinstall it?
Yeah. If you choose to do that instead of fixing grub, just boot into the live CD and choose manual partitioning and see if it's still there. It is. Choose the old partitions to do the same functions on your new install.

i.e.
Use swap for swap
Use root (/) for root (/)
Use /home for /home

I'd suggest you just do a little googling about how to reinstall grub from a live USB.
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>>59629674
wtf I love Windows now
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>>59629674
>>59629551
>Windows is scanning and repairing drive F...
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How do I install a .ebuild file in Gentoo?
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>>59629824
>How do I install a .ebuild file in Gentoo
This is a great guide

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+install+a+.ebuild+file+in+Gentoo
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Really enjoying funtoo.
For those who don't know, funtoo is a fork of gentoo by its original crestor who left the gentoo dev team after internal disagreements about where the project was headed. Funtoo is a bit more stable than gento, offers a precompilied kernel and has subarches so its not just 1 binary buiilt for all amd64 cpus, its a couple binarys to choose from for each subarch. There is also a heavier git emphasis iirc.
Regardless, I am really enjoyiny the speed and flexibility I am getting out of my system for such a low price of resources.
I idle at roughly ~60mb of RAM and even with firefox and some terminals and gimp open I don't go over ~500mb.
Another part I am loving is that the idea of >install gentoo is that it is supposed to be so complicated and take a while, but funtoo is a very basic install process relative to gentoo and I can install it and have my install done in 20 mins.
Ok end of blog but I just really wanted to share my thoughts.
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>>59629115
Brave is dogshit just use Firefox
>>59629890
T. Too dumb to install Gentoo
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>>59629890
Gentoo has been on git for like two years although emerge --sync still defaults to rsync mirror. This is fixed by changing two lines in /etc/portage/repos.conf/gentoo.conf
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>>59629961
I've actually used gentoo a couple times - longest stretch was as a daily driver on desktop for around 4 months. I eventually gave up on it because Windows wanted to help me so it turned 3 seperate partitions on the same disk into a shared partition. Regardless I from there chose to try out funtoo cause I was reading about it on the forums and was really impressed with the instal time. I converted some friends and was able to install it on my chinkpad the same night my desktop. (Not side by side, one after another) which is kind if unheard of with gentoo.
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>>59629890
>>59630008
>>59630030
So what is the difference to Gentoo in practice?
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>>59630108
Like I said before it takes many less hours to install funtoo than gentoo. Profiles, funtoo holds packages back sonetimes for stability. Also funtoo has no systemd and even supports gnome3 without systemd. Gentoo has support for systemd but gives users a choice.
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>>59630456
Eh, I'd actually prefer fast packages. the easier install is nice but in reality it doesn't take that long:
>booting usb
>Setting up network
>Download/extract stage tar
>General setup of locales etc
>Kernel. This could take nearly an hour for your first try but it's really easy after that.
>emerging world
It only takes 20 minutes if you know what you're doing (obviously excluding compiling)
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bros, I'm using linux mint 17 right now and looking to upgrade to either the latest linux mint or manjaro. anyways, my problem is I have no methods of external storage. is there a cloud option for storing all of my important files? also, what sorts of config files, etc.. should I be saving? I'm guessing like bashrc, vimrc?
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>>59630547
back up /etc and /home to the cloud
use them as reference. do not apply them wholesale to the new system
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>>59630575
>do not apply them wholesale to the new system
by that do you mean don't just copy paste them?
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>>59630611
applying wholesale would be
> cp -r /backup/etc /

but you most likely can copy individual config files.

any time I modify a configuration file I add a comment with date and time and why i modified the file.
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>>59630669
alright, thanks!
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>>59630575
>to the cloud
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>>59630697
oh god fuck off. yeah we know there's no such thing as the 'cloud', it's just some huge data center.
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>>59630523
using a precompiled kernel is one of the advantages with funtoo because of subarches
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>>59630831
few threads ago, someone said you could use ubuntu's kernel or any for that matter.
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Does anyone else get super nervous and quintuple check their "dd" commands due to past experiences accidentally erasing the wrong device? Its happened to me a couple times and now I think I have PTSD about it or something because I start shaking and get all sweaty.
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>>59630768
>oh god fuck off.
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>>59631306
he has the right to pray.
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>>59628891
Fuh-guh-El-Tee
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Installing gentoo- what are the actual advantages of building my own kernel instead of using genkernel? I was just going to make a custom kernel, disabling defaults for hardware I absolutely don't need (ie amd cpu stuff) and enabling stuff I might need. I don't feel like looking up every single option, so I'll just guess as to whether i need certain options.
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What does dd actually do? I've only used it for live USBs and it makes some weird filesystem gparted doesn't recognise, but it boots fine.
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>>59631843
>what are the actual advantages of building my own kernel instead of using genkernel?
you will have ran commands that a script could have run
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>>59631874
I'm curious about this also. dd writes to the disk right? (/dev/sdb not to the file system /dev/sdb1)

Not that I even really know what that means.
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Why doesn't Gentoo switch to runit as default? It's much better than openrc and I think it's already been established that using systemd at this point makes you either a red hat shill or a retard.
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>>59631874
dd is an old, old Unix utility that just copies byte-by-byte an input file to an output file.
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>>59632106
Does that mean that there is no filesystem?
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>>59632084
OpenRC is probably developed/maintained by gentoo devs.
If so, they would have full control and not need to rely on another developer group's efforts i.e. deciding when to discontinue the project.
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>>59632119
dd doesn't care what you're reading from or writing to. You can point it at real files in your filesystem, character device files like /dev/zero or /dev/urandom, or block device files like /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, etc.

"filesysystem" is just what it sounds like: a file "system". A clever scheme you use to organize the trillions of bytes on your hard drive into manageable "chunks" e.g. files. In the end your drive is just a massive array of bytes though and you can write whatever the fuck you want to it.
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>>59632187
Why are there so many vague answers to this topic?
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>>59632136
That's true. The Gentoo wiki article on comparison of init systems doesn't seem to mention runit at all, which is a little strange. It mentions epoch (officially supported), S6, and also finit. Does anyone know if runit is officially supported? In my brief time with void I found it a lot better than openrc, but I'm coming back to Gentoo.
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Shameless self bumping.
>>59632080
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I'm trying to get easy68k to work in Wine. The only problem that I've encountered so far is that the undo button in the toolbar removes all the text. I found the following on the easy68k forum:

>The editor in EASy68K uses a Microsoft Richedit control. Some users have reported running EASy68K under Wine with no issues. Other posts I have read online talk about needing the proper Microsoft Richedit DLL in order to get it to work correctly.

How would I go about getting the "proper Microsoft Richedit DLL" in wine?
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I set my raspberry pi to start playing through the whole Lucky Star anime whenever I turn it on. I also have portable battery for it. I can now turn any TV into an anime station.
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>>59632854
Cringed.
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motherfucking arch devs. even microsoft is releasing an x86 windows 10 update these days

go fuck yourselves, pretentious pricks. not everyone is rich, you fucks.
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>>59632986
Since when was what Microsoft is doing in any way something you'd consider to be a thing anyone should copy?
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>>59632780
Are you using playonlinux? It has an approved installer for it.
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>>59628709
Another gay OP.
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>>59632986
>can't install arch
arch devs did you a favor, retard
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>>59633057
Why do you think that?
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>dude lets make OP totally noob friendly cutting a lot of links
>but put on a totally unreadable title
I do like some stuff in there, but you became inconsistent and you know that OP.
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I've been doing some reading into systemd, and aside from it breaking from the Unix philosophy, I can't seem to find anything about it being a botnet with NSA backdoors.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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>>59628709
Downloaded the latest version of Linux Mint, and installed it completely free standing to a USB drive. It's my travel OS, Feels good man.

Here's the drive. Not quite as fast as an SSD but faster than most platter drives. http://a.co/cVcGQZB

Just wish they'd get the GRUB issue fixed.
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>>59633128
>title has 6 groups of binary
>first and last group are the same
how did you not assume it was "/fglt/"? seemed pretty obvious
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Meh, is kinda good to have an exotic title from time to time. Still I like the links OP removed.
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>>59633152
pls leave, poettering
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Why is vim so slow and what can you do to make it faster???
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>>59633153
Nice. Maybe you'll consider going full time soon.

>>59633128
>>dude lets make OP totally noob friendly cutting a lot of links
The OP is **20** characters from the limit and it seems perfectly fine to me. It's pretty massive and can't be everything to everybody. Feel free to make a copypasta of links that you think are helpful and drop them in the threads. If it's good others will probably pick it up post it from time to time too.


>>but put on a totally unreadable title
Obfuscating the subject has become a tradition/meme and doesn't keep people from finding it, a native catalog search or a CTRL + F will take you straight to it.

>I do like some stuff in there, but you became inconsistent and you know that OP.
Probably because it's not just one person making the threads. I do make a lot of them but I'm sure that dozens of people have made the OP post throughout the life of /fglt/
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>>59633175
Post the links please. And see >>59633336
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>>59628891
Eff-geh-ell-teh
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>>59630768
People who say this are oversimplifying the architecture to a fault. When you are referring to "someone elses datacenter" you are speaking more to companies like Linode or DigitalOcean in their current forms. When you are talking about "cloud" it's a portfolio of services that you can leverage to build your application. It's not just someone else's computer its managed databases, queuing, virtual networking, load balancers, etc. If your "cloud provider" is only renting you a server, then you might want to rethink their use of that term.
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>wake up
>morning fap
>shower
>check email
>work flex time so can arrive whenever I want
>oh well I might a well have a short look at 4chan before leaving
>full shitpost mode engaged
>it's almost 9 and I still haven't left
Every time.
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>>59633418
I generally use the term "cloud" to refer to any service that provides you storage on hardware you don't own
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>>59633433
just keep shitposting from work
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>>59633498
But I'm losing a full hour of shitposting while I'm going to work.
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Just a friendly reminder:
If you are using systemd, dbus, pulse audio, or any proprietary drivers or blobs, you are part of the botnet.
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>didn't think I needed a separate /home
>Now I want to change distro
I don't have that much stuff, but what folders should I back up to a USB drive before I install a new distro? I was thinking I might just copy the whole home folder. Will I break my new install if I paste my old home folder? Is there any data in / I should back up?
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>>59633636
>I don't have that much stuff, but what folders should I back up to a USB drive before I install a new distro? I was thinking I might just copy the whole home folder. Will I break my new install if I paste my old home folder?
Just backup the home folder and put the contents of the respective folders where they belong in your new installs home. Like the contents of the Pictures folder in the new one and so on.

> Is there any data in / I should back up?
No
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>>59633636
if you modified any files in /etc then yes, you would want to back up /etc
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>>59633539
How do I blacklist all poetteringware on gentoo? I've had -systemd and -pulseaudio for years, is there anything I can do to make sure I keep using eudev and not udev? What about dbus?
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>>59633695
Fake news
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>>59629890

>speed
Nice placebo. If you were presented with the same programs and environment, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. You're worse than audiophiles.
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>>59632281

Why? What for? What do you want to achieve that GNOME's autostart can't?
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>>59633539

>free software listed amongst proprietary drivers
Reminder that you're a retard. Why are you even in this thread if you have no knowledge about basic things related to it?
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>>59633927
>he trusts Red Hat, Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers with key components of his system
LMAO they're all working with the NSA and CIA
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>>59629890
>Really enjoying funtoo.
>For those who don't know[...]

>blatant shilling
im surprised you got that far
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>(((GNU's not UNIX) is not UNIX) is not UNIX)...
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If I install a distro that has no nonfree software aside from "kernel blobs" what am I actually running? Is the nonfree code still running if I have no hardware that needs it? Is Gentoo deblobbed?
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Are there any linux image viewers that make it easy to set up "mosaics" (that is definitely not the right word) of images.

Like viewing multiple images at once in a way that uses screen space effectively, even if the images have to be layed out manually?
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Did fedoras recent (past week) updates break anyone elses dual monitor setup? if I have one vertical one horizontal it makes everything get put in the bottom corner but with two horizontal it breaks - what should I do it's the first time updates have broken anything, I restored from backup should I just wait a month before trying updates again?
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>>59634451
What graphics driver are you using?
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>>59634511
nouveau
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>>59634400
There are lots of comic viewers that do dual and geeqie can do quad. I don't know of anything that does more than 4Why do you want to do this btw. geeqie can do another neat thing I'll post next.

Pic is geeqie
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>>59634539
A quick glance through the nouveau bug reports doesn't seem to show anything. Assuming I'm understanding your problem properly, it sounds like your modeline isn't being set properly, but I'm not sure what would be causing that with nouveau, unless you've explicitly set your modeline manually at some point.
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>>59634568
>Why do you want to do this btw
Pornography.
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>>59634568
pan view
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>>59634568
Fuck that's not geeqie it's mcomix. THIS pic is geeqie.
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>>59634568
mcomix/comix is the best hentai reader
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>>59634613
>>59634598
This is pan view forgot pic
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>>59634613
This is similar to what I'm looking for, but I want something more flexible, that allows essentially arbitrary dimensions and placement for each image, and more than 4 images at once.

My use case is pretty specific I highly doubt it exists, I just wanted to make sure before sinking time in to doing it myself.
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Does anyone here play osu! On Linux? Does it work properly on wine or is there more input lag than windows?
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>>59634642
You can change the dimensions for each but yeah no more than 4 maybe you could fork it. Picasa is available for linux now but I don't know a whole lot about it. It may let you do what you want.
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>>59634642
>>59634668
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>>59634652
playonlinux has an install script for it. That's a good indicator that it performs well. Don't know if input lag is an issue in wine. I've never noticed any.
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>>59634613
>>59634674
I'm essentially looking for something that will let me quickly arrange images like in this image (with the shitty gimp patterns standing in for images).

This is kind of close to what I want, but not quite the level of flexibility I need. And definitely it needs to support more than 4 images at once.

>>59634668
>maybe you could fork it.
It would probably be a lot more work than just making my own thing that does just this.
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>>59634708
You need to think about how much effort you're putting into jacking off and reconsider what you're doing with you're life.
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>>59634720
this. or just get a tiling wm like bspwm that does this automatically. that's what i did.
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>>59634720
It's not actually for porn that was a joke. I just don't really know how to describe the thing I actually need to use it for, and I figured it didn't matter much.
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on my bash thing for windows subsystem it says 39 packages can be updated 26 updates are security updates

is this dangerous? Is it safer for me to just disable bash if I can't be bothered updating every 2 days, or does it not affect the security of my windows computer?
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>>59634753
It's completely normal and no it doesn't effect the security of windows. I was under the impression that it would update itself periodically.
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>>59634746
>It's not actually for porn that was a joke. I just don't really know how to describe the thing I actually need to use it for
bullshit
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>>59628891
faglet
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>>59634783
Why would I lie about that on a bulgarian knitting enthusiast website?
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>>59634720
the correct answer is to learn to jack with non-dominant hand
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stupid question
when using a window manager like i3, how do you set your gtk theme?
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>>59630933
dog bless tab completion and udev m'lord.
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>>59630933
while i haven't yet blown away the wrong disk with dd, i do check the shit out of it before hitting enter, as i've lost data accidentally in other ways before
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>>59634976
Wikis are your friend
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GTK%2B#Basic_theme_configuration
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fucking hell
>install mint and have fun with it for a while.
>realise it's not that good
>install arch
>read stuff here saying systemd is the second coming of hitler, and that arch is shit
>start to believe it, especially the systemd stuff
>now i feel bad about using a distro with systemd
fuck what distro do I use now
I know enough linux to use gentoo at this point but I really don't want to wait for compiling on my shit laptop. is void the last non-meme binary distro without systemd? Is runit worse than openrc?
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>>59635056
Quit being autistic and use what works for you.
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>>59635056
>start to believe it

Here is your problem
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>>59635056
If you never learned to configure any init system that is being replaced you should consider yourself lucky you can learn systemd and not worry about all that other depreciated software
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>>59635056
I used to be like you then realise that I am wasting a time and just roll ubuntu with other flavors.

After that I felt empty because I always wasting my time distrohopping and replace that feeling with programming.
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I'm not here to ask "How 2 install arch???" because it's already installed (mom cancelled my meetings, thanks mom!)

Now I want to know what are the 3 most common WMs /g/ uses often?

Literally have never used linux except for ubuntu and mint and thought I'd give arch a shot just because of the memes surrounding it's difficulty, and realized it's actually not that hard when following a guide. Just slightly time consuming but I didn't even take more than an hour to get to this point.
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>>59635179
>svgadrmfb
be sure to install your graphics driver (xf86-video-intel if it's just the intel cpu)
i personally just use openbox+tint2
>100.0C
that can't be good for it
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>>59635179
# pacman -Syu gnome gnome-extra; systemctl enable gdm; systemctl start gdm
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>>59635207
I assure you that it is not running at 100 C, I'm trying it out first in a VM using VMware.

>This is the actual spec on Windows

Regarding graphics, I may need to use a VMware specific driver instead?
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>>59635250
i see, yes, graphics driver will be whatever vmware uses, not the intel one. intel one is for running on your hardware directly
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>>59635250
it's all software there is no hardware to drive
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>finish setting up minimal Gentoo install
>Decide to install gnome, haven't tried it much since a few years ago but it was comfy then
>a bunch of poetteringware including systemd and pulse gets pulled
jesus christ
Friendly reminder to put -pulseaudio and -systemd in your make.conf
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>>59635289
>>59633711

No one responded to your first post, idiot. Stop reinforcing your gullible opinions you got from other people just to feel better about yourself, retard.
Chances are you don't even know what half of the software you hate does. Kill yourself.
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>>59635518
>friendly
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What is handling the USB drivers on a system? The kernel?
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Why do people dislike pulse? i have a weird problem where I get zero sound, which gets magically fixed by installing pulse. I don't care about configuring my sound at all, so I just pulseaudio because it works. functionally it seems more simple than the default alsa config.
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>>59634788

underrated
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>>59635588
yes, the kernel handles of most of the USB devices.

A half-exception is printers, the printing system (CUPS) handles most of the work there (it even suggests that you should disable the kernel-level USB printing driver) but it still uses some generic USB interface to communicate with pritners.
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>>59635588
kernel contrains drivers for your motherboard's usb controller. udev dynamically detects usb devices that you plug in- if it's hardware like a keyboard/mouse then the driver is loaded by udev. if it's a usb drive, udev detects it, and a block file in /dev/ is creates, which is then mounted manually by you, or your DE
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>>59635590
dude
alsactl init
lmao
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>>59635610
>>59635623
Thank you. I have a problem with my keyboard not working. I'm going to check my kernel because it was really late when I compiled it...
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>>59635207
Well I tried to get tint2 + openbox working but each time I tried to start tint2 it said "Could not open display"

I installed all the xorg related packages and also started x as well but no dice.

>>59635235
This most certanly brought tangible results but I'm wondering if this is really what most people would use if they wanted a distribution like arch.

See, I am reminded of Ubuntu with this kind of setup and while it seems nice, it's nothing unique. People must use these kinds of bare-bones linux distros to install something that isn't found pre-baked into Ubuntu, XFCE, and so on.

And since this is a VM I don't actually care *that* much but what if I wanted to uninstall the 403 packages that this command ended up installing so I could try a different WM environment?
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>>59635674
ayy that sounds like some weird/serious problem as "very basic" devices like USB keyboard/mice should be included in the defconfig.
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>>59635682
>each time I tried to start tint2 it said "Could not open display"
You have to start like this
>tint2&
>exec openbox-session
and nothing below that. tint2 is just a bar not a window manager

>>59635713
I built it from scratch so I guess I just fucked it
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>>59635674
is it just a normal keyboard or something special (like RGB gaymey LEDs)?
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>>59635518
thanks to you I just realised I got memed and that people complaining about systemd are deluded
I'll probably stick with openrc Gentoo out of laziness but I won't bitch about le evil poettering any more
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>>59635723
nothing fancy, defo working
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>>59635682
use openbox-session, and put tint2 in ~/.config/openbox/autostart
openbox is a wm, tint2 is a panel
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>>59635682
>what if I wanted to uninstall the 403 packages that this command ended up installing so I could try a different WM environment?
systemctl disable gdm; pacman -Rsc gnome gnome-extra


it's worth noting you can have multiple wm's and de's installed without issues, you can even run more than one at the same time
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>>59635722

>starting tint2 via xinitrc and not openbox's autostart file

It was made exactly for that reason, yet you idiots keep resorting to other ways.
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>>59628769
I'm
Browsers: Epiphany, Midori, Otter, Konqueror.
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I just installed Mint on a spare 500 gig drive I had. I like it so far. Is this bad?
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>>59635817
>not putting everything into xinitrc to switch wms asap
>maintaining openbox, bspwm, i3, ... autostarts for no gain whatsoever
also you're not friendly, pal
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>>59635867
If you like apt so much, better use debian-testing.
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>install Ubuntu to try linux
>Enjoying freedom from windows and customisation
>some faggot here tells me Ubuntu is a botnet and to install arch
>fall for the meme and start ricing arch and enjoying it
>Memed into hating systemd so I try void
>people here say void is shit
>I don't know what distro to use because I fell for so many stupid memes here and am completely incapable of forming my own opinion on anything
>I was happier when I didn't know anything about Linux or systemd and was using mint

I feel like hating it is mostly a meme, but I still can't get over a few criticisms of it:
>assimilating other system components, giving red hat tons of control over the ecosystem
>tons of code could lead to security holes
>This could be an intentional NSA plot to spread the botnet to Linux through complexity
>Things like gnome depend on it for no reason
>It isn't better than openrc or runit at all
I think I'll probably just keep using void and stop complaining about systemd given that it doesn't affect me.
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>>59635785
I think I might actually be retarded.
What am I doing wrong here?

Openbox has been installed, so why is there no autostart directory?
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>>59635943
Proof it is installed, using the pacman -Q command
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>>59635943
>What am I doing wrong here?
you are
>logged in as root for now reason
use sudo instead and login as normal user
>trying to copy a program directory to a nonexisting directory
read the arch wiki regarding openbox and tint2, autostart is just a textfile to edit
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>>59635943
have you run openbox at least once?
it's a user configuration, they're not typically created by installing the package

also, don't run as root, the fuck are you doing
also also, autostart is a text file, you put the text "tint2" into, you're moving the tint2 binary
please do some more reading, you're making too many assumptions
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>>59635975
>>59635943
oh, and instead of "find / -name "tint2"", you can query pacman for what files a package owns with "pacman -Ql tint2"
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>>59635908
Since you are balls-deep into memes, might aswell try /g/entoo.

>ships with openrc, developed by former and current gentoo devs
>ships with separate profiles for using kde and gnome, with or without systemd
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Is mint actually insecure/hard to upgrade/full of problems like people here claim? I was going to suggest it to my friends who've never used Linux, because it's what I first used and it seemed to look decent, just work, and not have canonical's babby's first linux Amazon bullshit.
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>>59635908
Debian is good about freedoms, definetly not botnet, gentoo also good, arch good aslo.
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>>59636063
They fixed the upgrading issues a few versions ago. As far as security, it's basically ubuntu but without the dodgier elements. Probably not the most secure distro, but it's a step above Windows 10.
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>switch to arch instead of windows because of windows botnet
>switch to debian with only free software because arch isn't free enough
>any proprietary software, such as Nvidia drivers, and even complex free software like systemd or the kernel could contain security flaws only the NSA knows about
>realise that my BIOS is proprietary and could easily be a backdoor for the NSA
>Even with libreboot, all modern Intel and AMD CPUs have an impossible to disable hardware backdoor that's above the OS
>It's basically been confirmed that the CIA, NSA and FBI are exploiting all of these
Well, it was fun being briefly deluded enough to think I actually had freedom and privacy.
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>>59636193
Unless you happen to be a major political or terrorist figure, you're really not worth the effort of most of that stuff. Sticking to a reasonably secure Linux distro is about as much as you can do, anything past that is more placebo than not.
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>search for those missing links
>10 threads earlier I find them:

>Gaming:
>https://www.gamingonlinux.com
>https://linuxgameconsortium.com

>News:
>http://phoronix.com
>http://www.webupd8.org
>https://www.linuxjournal.com
>https://lwn.net

wew, nothing of value was lost
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>>59636446
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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xcfe user here does anyone know a way to change the color of the text in panels like this. In the panel preferences, there is only an option to change the panel's background color.
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>>59628709
Lainchan faggot detected.
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now that the dust has settled, what's *really* wrong with systemd? is it a botnet?
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>>59636063

>feeding your friends downstream shit
Go with Ubuntu (which is already kind of downstream from Debian) and let him enjoy less polluted waters.
Stop using shitty derivative distributions which contribute nothing.
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>>59636485

Did you check the preferences for the taskbar widget in your panel? At the screen where you add things to the panel, most widgets have an "Edit" button which can tweak additional stuff.

If not, I'm pretty sure that's GTK theme related. So you just have to edit the GTK files. GTK panel should use GTK2, but is being ported to GTK3 now (I doubt you have the GTK3 version). So, look into the panel file inside the GTK2 theme.
Hint: theming GTK2 is harder, because it doesn't use common CSS style.
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thoughts on this? http://linuxbrew.sh/
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>>59628787
>4nd
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>>59636641
>what's *really* wrong with systemd? i
nothing
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>>59636854
wat
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>>59636854

Absolutely disgusting.

>am I allowed to like this
Grow a spine you idiot.
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>>59636875
Well, it looks weird, but, since it uses /usr/bin/env ruby, it makes some sense. You can't install it without ruby anyway.
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>>59628891
faglet
>>59634788
Fuck, he got it first. Nice dubs.
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>>59628709
Does anyone know some feh/mpv/bash magic (or other solution) that lets me play a folder of pngs in sequence?

My files are numbered 000001.png through 100000.png. Using feh * and keeping right arrow pressed gives me flashes
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>>59637087
I use this for creating a slideshow of images:
mpv --fullscreen=yes --image-display-duration=4.0 --pause=no path/
Change the duration to your needs.
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>>59637087
try ffplay
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what is the best init system that is not systemd?
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does linux have wireless monitors yet
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>>59637334
what?
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>>59637328
openrc senpai
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>>59636966
>Nice dubs.
y-you too
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>>59637298
Thank you very much anon
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>>59633865
GIMP boots up 3 seconds faster than when I use a precompiled binary version of it.
ffmepg takes around 5 seconds less to convert from mp4 to webm.
Its not much buts not palcebo
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>>59633986
Im not even shilling Im just sharing an opinion I am not pressuring anyone to use it ir suggesting you replace your current OS with it. This thread isnt just for fixing your babby tier issues, you know. It can also be used to sharw and discuss expierences with different distros.
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What is the Linux equivalent of CPU-Z?
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>>59637712
lshw
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is there a reason i would want to use hardened gentoo over regular for a daily driver/ art station?
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>>59637800
No. Hardened gentoo is for server and tinfoil purposes.
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>>59637800
No, this feature intended for servers with security risks.
It's hard to hack hardened + selinux system.
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Who use nvidia blob driver?
You can disassembe it and reassemble for your cpu.
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>>59637800
no. you will run into lots of pain running hardened gentoo on a desktop
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>>59637712
GNU/Linux*
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>>59637814
>>59637822
>>59637856
alright. thank you. i'm on my way to gentooland.
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Maybe a dumb question, but why would you use SELinux when it's literally developed by the NSA?
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>>59637881
if it's good enough for the nsa it's good enough for us
it's in their best interest to have it secured & audited externally
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How do I properly stow my lightdm configuration?
I currently use
sudo stow -t / lightdm

with my config in lightdm/etc/lightdm.
But although it gets linked properly, lightdm doesnt follow the link to the config file.
What am I missing?
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>>59637896
But what if they added intentional bugs in order to exploit them later?
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>>59637904
well we'll be darned
if they're guarding big secrets i'm sure they won't be using insecure software
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>>59637930
Well, if nobody except the NSA knows about those bugs, it can take years to others to discover them.
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>>59637712
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>>59637971
>>59637712
>posting computer informations online
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>>59633045
Just tried it, looks like it does the same thing. Thanks, though.
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Is gayming on GNU/Linux a complete meme or something that is actually viable now?
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>>59638508
If your game runs natively on gahnoo+loonix, it's viable (Borderlands 2+PSQ ports are great).

If you can only run them from wine then it's a meme.
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>>59638345
i extracted riched20 and riched32 from my xp sp3 iso
throw these into your wine prefix's system32, or the application's directory (next to it's main executable)
the stock wine prefix is in ~/.wine
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/ightta.7z
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>>59639033
oh, you might also need to configure wine to use them
pic is an example, it's winecfg
ensure these have "native" first (default for new entries)
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>>59639075
forgot pic
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>>59639033
>>59639075
>>59639094
Looks like the riched files were already in system32. I configured them, like in your picture, but I'm still getting the same thing unfortunately. From what I can tell, everything works fine, it's just hitting undo deletes all the text. Oh, well. Thanks again for taking the time.
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If lspci doesn't show a Wifi card, is it a hardware issue?
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Can anyone suggests a simple gui audio editor mean to cut and save audio files? Nothing fancy, no need for filtering or multitrack editing. I use Audacity but need something even simpler for a specific task.
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>>59639216
alright, i checked it out myself
wine ships its own riched20/32 dll's, so you'll need to replace them with the ones i gave you, as well as put them into the library overrides list like >>59639094

for your reference, i used wine staging 2.3 with a 32bit prefix and windows xp compatibility
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>>59639390
>>59639216
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>>59639366
ffmpeg?
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>>59639442
I need gui.
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>>59639449
my bad, i'm not really familiar with anything gui that's simpler than audacity
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>>59639449
ffmpeg-gui
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>>59639518
Ffunny guy.
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>>59639442
audacity
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>>59638508
>gayming
That word itself is a meme
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>>59639390
>>59639430
I went ahead and added your dll's, and noticed that version of Wine in Lubuntu's software center thing is 1.3, so that might be the problem. I'll have to figure out how to install the latest version, I've never installed anything without using sudo apt-get.
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>>59639929
Upgrade your ancient installation already.
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>>59639929
oh damn, wine 1.3?
that's pretty old
i'd be surprised if the current version of lubuntu used older than wine 1.8.x, so your distro itself is probably out of date
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>>59640120
I'm using 16.04, not sure why the repositories are so old. Doing sudo apt-get update brought it up to only 1.6.
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>>59640182
>1.6
Why do people use this distro again?
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>>59640182
well, give it a shot anyway
otherwise see if there's a PPA or something with versions of wine that aren't 4+ years old
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>>59640239
it just werks
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>>59640239
It's supposed to be noob friendly.

What are some other easy distros that have more timely packages?
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>>59640270
antergos, maybe?
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When are we going to get a new GUI tookit?
GTK and Qt are both ass
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>>59640299
We you start the project, lazy leech.
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>>59640299
ncurses doesn't have this problem.
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>>59640324
Will you start it with me anon-senpai?
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>>59640336
I'm not interested in GUI programming. I prefer cli.
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I am getting a new desktop computer. As someone who plays a lot of games and uses several Windows features, I will be installing Windows.

However, I do also want a linux distro on it as well, mostly for programming.

How should I go about installing it, and what distro? Virtual machine or a different boot? I want something lightweight, and I'm pretty familiar in a UNIX terminal.
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>>59640299
how about EFL?
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>>59640360
install gentoo
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Does anyone know a similar tool like cbatticon but which queries tp_smapi data for Thinkpad batteries?
>>
is there a way to make capslock, numlock, etc keyboard leds blink in a shell script?
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>>59640270
ubuntu and debian have 2 packages that provide wine, wine and wine-development.
on 16.04 wine is at version 1.6 and wine-development is on version 1.9.xx.
if you want wine2.x on ubuntu youll have to update to 16.10 and install wine-development.
p.s.: calling win1.9xx a development version is just insulting when wine 2.4 is already released
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>>59640360
install windows (when partitioning your disk, leave some free space at the end of your disk), then install gnu+linux.

Any lxde/xfce/mate based setup will work (xubuntu/lubuntu/ubuntu-mate, debian with task-xfce-desktop task-mate-desktop or task-lxde-desktop, opensuse and select a light DE from the installer etc)
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>>59640426
>install windows
bad advice
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>>59640360
Dual boot Void Linux musl x86_64 with LXQT.
There's some install tutorials out there.
If that's too advanced get Ubuntu, it just werks.
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>>59640299

You have never programmed anything in either, idiot.

>baaaah this program i',m using sucks
>it's the toolkit's fault!
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>>59640402

Took me 3 seconds using my favourite search engine to find out how to.
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>>59640510
>but I'm not posting it, hehehehehe
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>>59640531
It's google, mkay
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>>59640510
Don't you 'lelel google it' people realize how cancerous you are?
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>>59640558
>google
nice botnet, caveman
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>>59640560

No one is going to spoonfeed you. At least not a sane person.
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>>59640582
But it works
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>>59640588
>no sane person would help a bro out
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>>59640607

I told him it can be easily found on any search engine. Be a bro and don't waste valuable bandwidth with redundant data.
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guys this is a friendly thread :(
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>>59634976
I use lxappearance.
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>>59640488
You're right, I haven't. What's your point?

Neither for them are actually truly cross-platform, and GTK-3 is total trash. I upgraded my firefox just to try out GTK-3 with it and it is FAR more buggy and has much worse design choices than GTK-2

They are trying too hard to look "modern" with smooth animations and shit into the base functionality, and also overcomplicating shit by thinking that applications need to appear "native" to the operating system they are run on, instead of just keeping it simple and consistent on all platforms.
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>>59640588
Nigger not wanting to spoonfeed someone is one thing, but unironically filling a captcha in order to be cancer should make yourself think about your value in society.
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>>59640666

>Neither for them are actually truly cross-platform,
Who cares? This is a Linux related thread. It works on the BSDs.

>I upgraded my firefox just to try out GTK-3 with it and it is FAR more buggy and has much worse design choices than GTK-2
It works on my and everyone else's machine.

>design choices
It literally looks the same retard, except for the different file dialog.

>They are trying too hard to look "modern" with smooth animations and shit into the base functionality,
The default theme has no animations.

>and also overcomplicating shit by thinking that applications need to appear "native" to the operating system they are run on
You have no idea what you're talking about. You most likely think that GNOME is GTK and you're talking about GTK Header bars. It's not, retard.

GTK looks the same on all platforms it runs on, retard and it's the same on every platform. Just like Qt.
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Been trying out Fedora 25 and it's really nice. First extension I installed was Dash to Panel which makes it feel a bit nicer to use for me. Really liking the package manager and the use of delta RPMs.
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>>59640765
They're overdeveloped trash.
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>>59640913
>overdeveloped
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>>59640913

No, you're just underdeveloped.
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>>59640954
good one
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>>59628709
Off topic but is there anything happier than a smiling Wojack?

He has certainly earned his brief moments of respite.
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does anyone here have working distcc on gentoo ?
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>00101111 01100110 01100111 01101100 01110100 00101111
I don't want to translate it, is it a trap?
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Is there a way to make journalctl output logs in real time?
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>>59641151
:D
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>>59641222

>tfwnogf but gnu+linux
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>>59641195
F
>>
cat /dev/urandom
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>>59641316
Oh yeh, thanks. I should really learn to read manuals properly. Completely glossed over that flag.
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>>59641151
Why do people call this shit wojak? Isn't that literally just the name of the guy who claims to be the original creator?
I'm not interested in naming memes based on attention whores who want credit, especially not for shitty ms paint drawings. It's just "feels guy"
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Does anybody use fedora? What stuff do you do after a fresh install? Ive already added RPM Fusion should I use any of these?

Fedy - A modular and scriptable utility to install codecs and proprietary software, add & manage repos and much more, also saves downloaded files. This will download the script. You then have to open a terminal, "cd" to your downloaded location. Next, "su" as root and type "chmod +x fedy-installer", followed by "./fedy-installer" . That should install Fedy and the necessary repos. Finally, exit root temporarily and type "fedy" to give you a GUI with plenty of handy codecs.

PostInstallerF - script for adding loads of packages, drivers and codecs.

Easy Life - Duli's script to add codecs, drivers, and more to Fedora. Unfortunatelly, under Wayland display server the root user cannot run the program yad (which is used by easyLife to make the menu). So until this is fixed (if it will ever be), easyLife will only work by logging in with "GNOME on Xorg" session.

Other scripts will be added as soon as they can be verified on F25.



Also how do I search for packages and if I have it installed? In debian based distros "apt search" would search for the package and tell me if its installed... It doesn't look like dnf does this
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>>59641369
4chan gave him the name wojak, just like 4chan calls pepe pepe
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Just RPM fusion. You can add copr repos as well but I prefer building from source.

Unfortunately i don't think you can. You have to use dnf info [package] which will only return that one package.
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>>59641506
for >>59641419
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>>59641517
>>59641506
ok thanks
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>>59641369
Now look what you've done.
F-fuck you!
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>>59641466
>just like 4chan calls pepe pepe
Because that's actually the characters name.
Calling feels guy "wojak" would be like calling pepe "Matt Furie" because he created it.
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inb4 new thread
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>>59641642
New thread:

>>59641737
>>59641737
>>59641737
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>>59641743
why.
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>>59641771
why not.
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>>59641743
why tripfagging ;_;
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>>59628784
>calling feels guy something else
redit
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