/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>59280322
>>59280334
I think it's also because linear switches are marketed (rightly or wrongly) as 'gamer' switches, so a lot of people like to distance themselves from them and the associated stigma.

But yeah there are some good linear switches, people need to try nicely weighted vintage blacks before disregarding them entirely.

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I'm in for memes

Good place to buy quality o-rings in Europe at a reasonable price?

>>59281140
Keyboardco had packs of 125 (red, black or blue) for £10

>>59281140
O-rings are shit.

Topre or bust.

>>59281155
Thanks
>>59281157
Why is that? I want more resistance from the keys when typing.

>>59281201
Then get heavier springs, o-rings just make bottoming out squishy and gross.

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xth for gay stuff

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Still loving this keyboard.

>>59281219
I'm hoping I won't bottom out with the o-rings installed. I need to type in several different languages for work so I don't have the choice in keyboards/switches qwerty offers.

>>59281263
O-rings don't do anything if you don't bottom out. They just sit at the top of the keycap's stem and squish against the top housing if you bottom out.

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>>59280924
Just got my first mechanical keyboard after some research.

Chose CM Storm Quickfire Rapid-i. They better have sorted out their LED problems with the previous batches.

I never got a chance to play with anything other than mx reds before I ordered this keyboard and I'm surprised by how tiny the actuation bump is on the browns.

I almost feel that getting a mechanical keyboard was a mistake (not really, but hear me out). You start taking it for granted right away and will be much more bothered by cheap membrane keyboards when you have to use them. It's kinde of the same thing with my macbooks retina screen, you take it for granted and stop noticing it pretty fast but you instantly notice when you're using a lower dpi screen.

Now to start collecting keycaps and digging out my soldering iron.

>>59281285
I have both problems. I bottom out and obviously I feel like the key doesn't have enough resistance. My membrane keyboard required more force to register a key. I wanted to get clear switches but I had to settle for brown because of availability and price.
I hope it will improve something since I don't have any other options.

>>59280924
Can anyone recommend a good 40% keycap set? Looking for something which has the characters for each layer, so it'd probably be dye sub to get all that info on

>>59281420
Just put some different springs in there.

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>>59281633
>>59281633
I think you'll struggle to find a set that shows all the layers etc..
Pic related has, I believe, custom printed caps made by WASD.
It's not difficult to learn your layers though, I have base + 3 on my MiniVan and have them pretty much memorised.

>>59281757
Yeah your pic is exactly what I was thinking. Good suggestion checking WASD, I didn't even consider them for ordering a custom set.
I guess the next decision is whether to stay with the default layout or make a modified/custom one

>>59281711
This might actually work. Think I might try 60g force. Any recommended places to buy these in the EU?

Are the choc minis on newegg for $75 real?

>>59281899
https://mekanisk.co/collections/keyboard-parts

only got gold plated, but i assume the reduced cost of shipping would make up for the extra cost of rice

>>59281899
Where in the EU are you? used G80-1800 might be cheaper than buying the springs in them.

>>59281913
Nice. Thank you. What would be the maximum weight to get before feeling fatigue in the fingers for brown switches?

>>59281939
Belgium. Shipping from DE, FR and especially NL is cheap.

>>59281982
Depends on the person. I have 72g ones in my ergoclears and have no fatigue at all while typing on them while I did with the stock 100g ones. Some people over on reddit love waving their dicks about using 150g or 180g springs in their daily driver boards without issue.

>>59282021
I tried googling, but I couldn't find any info about apples wireless keyboard (magic keyboard 2). Do you know what it's actuation force is or where I can find out?

I'm
>>59281376
and am just surpirsed by how much stiffer my magic keyboard 2 is in comparison.

>>59281867
What board is it?

>>59282113
Minivan

>>59282021
>>59282070

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/ripometer#wiki_scissor_switches

This suggests that the old models are 65g. I think the new model is stiffer though. No wonder it feels stiff compared to mx browns then.

https://wooting.nl/

Should I wait?

>>59282150
That fully analog feature sounds really cool. Do games need to add support for it or can it's config software emulate analog joysticks/triggers?

>>59282124
Definitely make your own if want ideal functionality dude, the configuration on TheVanKeyoards site is excellent.

Just follow the guide on thee, download the free bootloader software (Atmel I think it's called) and flash your created layers onto the keyboard. The GUI makes is practically foolproof.

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>>59282169

Does not seem like it based on what I've seen so far.

>>59282227
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out

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>>59282301

>>59282021
Do you still have a tactile bump? any lubrication needed?
If I look at the explanation of the black and brown MX switches the only difference I see is the accentuation force and what they describe as linear and tactile bump. All this is because of the spring the used? So a black switch with a spring from a brown switch is essentially a brown switch?
How do I know I'll keep the tactile bump in my brown switches if I change springs?
Any in depth guides on this?

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>>59282150
>>59282169
>>59282272
Man you know what I really want in a keyboard? A pressure sensitive key with a huge gaping deadzone. And it's Eurogarabge designed made in China with a $180 USD price tag? Even better.

>>59282327
Linear/tactile/clicky is determined by the slider. Force is determined by the spring.

http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/index.php/2012/12/an-introduction-to-cherry-mx-mechanical-switches/

Check the animations here to see how different switches operate.

For some reason restoring an old yellowed out mech keyboard really intrigues me
Which ones do i look for?
Im not really planning on finding a model M but i think i can find something comfy

>>59282327
I find with Ergo Clears (Clears with a lighter spring) the tactile bump is more noticeable, because there's less weight required to press the switch down, you have more sensitivity, if that makes sense?

I prefer heavy tactiles but Ergo Clears are great switches that can be made quite inexpensively. Cherry really should make their own OEM version.

>tfw gaming on a Model M
Fucking buff fingers senpai.

>>59282439
How about old Dell AT101 keyboards.

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>>59282361
I think I get it now, the mechanism of the lower switch housing affects it the most. Is was easier to spot a difference between clicky and tactile/linear because of the separate slider.

>>59282477
Thanks, I'll try the 72g springs.

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Realforce: Japanese layout or English layout?

>>59284204
Can you wright japanese?

>>59284324
出来るよ。but I am thinking about the "useless"keys around the spacebar and in the ~ .
However, I could remap them but to what? I was thinking about crtl and meta to try emacs but it seems like a shitty idea.

>>59284374
Then just get a normal realforce keyboard

>>59281231
its shit

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>>59284374
Could you get a set of those EnjoyPBT keycaps with the English and Japanese / Chinese / whatever else characters on? I'm not sure what actual language form they use but could they work as a dual language keyboard?

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>>59284204
なんでそんなこと聞いてんの、日本人でもローマ字使うんでしょーwwwww このオタク野郎が

>>59284865
I guess the kana on the keys are on the Japanese layout by default. Nobody use the kana input though, everyone is using an "interpreter" that convert romaji into kanji / kana.

>>59284973
やっぱりtripfagだな、君は。ちゃんと質問読んで。

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>>59285036
ちゃんと読んだよー
答えはべつに変わらないけど。日本人でいないとJISのキーボード買う理由なんかないって。
キーカップ以外

>>59285036
>Nobody

You mean, no westerners or do you mean Japanese people as well?

>>59285131
Japanese as well. You type your stuff in romaji (normal letters) and an interpreter changes it to the likeliest kanji. E.g bokuhanihonnisundeiru goes to 僕は日本に住んでいる
I guess the input directly in kana comes from another time and somehow remained to this day as a legacy but I am not 100% sure.

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>>59284973

>>59285244
That's really interesting, I thought the japanese used kana for everything now (for writing I mean). The chinese obviously need romanji (pinyin) because of their huge amount of hanzi.

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>>59285264
カワイイ女(男)の子だよ!可愛いんだよ!

>>59285318
守るべきものの為に負けられない

Is there any good mechanical keyboard I can get for thirty bucks, preferably something with the meta key

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>>59285365
うん! ファイトだよ!

>>59285273
I don't know much about Chinese input though. Do they type må mā ma(the accent like a v) mà just ma?

In the case of Japanese, the interpreter (at least the Linux one) shits itself on rare kanji (old one, rare pronunciation...) and I just copy paste from the internet.

The Japanese layout have keys to change the input type / change the style of kana or whatever.

In my original question, I was wondering if I should use an American layout (as it is the default in many situations) or if I should continue to use the Japanese one, and maybe remap those keys. If so, to what...

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>>59284204
JIS is shit

>>59285421
Indeed, but the price to pay is to be disoriented every time I'll use a JIS one (especially the parenthesis and mathematical operation characters)

>>59285397
ﾎﾉｹﾁｱﾝ!!!!!!!

>>59285410
I think the Chinese just type pinyin without the tones and rely on suggestions based on all possibilities. The longer a word is, the easier it is for the interpreter to guess, regardless of tone. This is from the experience of only 1 month there, so feel free to disregard.

Weebs go die and give me your keyboards.

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>>59285565
Most of them are under my desk anyway, which one do you want?

How are these ergodox on ebay that ship from China? The dealer has good reviews for them. Seems to be the cheapest way to get ahold of an ergodox without making it. Even while making it if you buy a case it would be about the same price.

how does /g/ clean the surface of their keyboards? and how often?

>>59282150
no. Topre already can do this by design already.

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>>59285376
Tomoko

>>59285738
how cheap? falbatech is not expensive and assembles stuff for you. give some links

>>59281231
it would literally be perfect if it was tkl

>>59285748
use a wet horse brush and sweep it upside down, that usually gets rid of any flaky slime that builds up.

Can someone recommend me some good reasonably priced pbt keycaps from aliexpress for a pok3r?

>>59285705
anything with mx blues, buckling springs can go fuck themselves

>>59284973
英語でok

>>59285861
$179

ebay.com/itm/ErgoDox-Ergonomic-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Brown-Fully-Assembled-NOT-Kit-/182477275557?hash=item2a7c7e41a5:g:~loAAOSwHjNV9iYI

I have 2 blank keycap sets for a regular layout I figure I have most of the caps I need. Will leave some blank and order singles as needed.

>>59286068
those are cherry brown though. it doesn't cost much less than on falbatech.pl
i would suggest blank dsa caps for an ergodox. or a fitting blank SA set.

>>59286095
They have cherry blue and red also. I like blues and browns the best. How do I view falbatech prices in USD? Also I live in Hawaii so I think the shipping from falbatech will make it more expensive.

>>59286147
>how do I view falbatech prices in USD?
http://www.x-rates.com/calculator/?from=EUR&to=USD&amount=1
imo gaterons are far better, but i guess that's preference.

>>59286000
>mx blues
I can't be a real gaymer unless I hear my keyboard clack XD

What's stopping someone from just saving up for a realforce?

Are there >cheaper alternatives?

Can someone please identify what keyboard this is?
>>59278925

>>59286857
Magicforce with Miami keycaps, probably from NPKC.

Thafuck, did gateron's just get cheaper on aliexpress?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10Pcs-3-Pin-Keyboard-KeyCaps-USB-Wired-Mechanical-Switch-Blue-for-Gateron-for-Cherry-MX-Switch/32795590569.html

>>59286857
Magicforce 68 with Tai-hao Miami

Can I use a PS2 keyboard on a modern computer?

>>59286878
>>59286881
ooooh, cheers thanks

>>59286428
>I can't be a real gaymer unless I hear my keyboard clack XD

I really don't give a fuck about the click, the feel is completely different from silent tactiles

>>59281044;

hek

>>59286895
Yes, either with your existing plug, a passive adapter or an active adapter.

>>59281044
I'm actually considering building this for my custom KB, but if I do the case in wood I might get fucked by the odd angles...

>>59286946
I tried a passive adapter but it didn't work during booting, I couldn't press "any key" to skip checkdisk so I had to wait an hour for a disk scan every time I restarted the computer.

How many topre 55g boards exist? Is it just realforce or does someone else make them?

how are the WASD Keyboards keyboards? I wanna get one with customizable keys and 150 is p much my budget.
I've seen some people say the keycaps are bad but how big part does that play for feel? I've only owned a steelseries 6Gv2 so I have nothing to compare with

stupid question but I'm new to mech keys so here goes:
how universal are keycaps?
if I get a gateron switch keyboard can I still put custom keycaps on or are they mutually exclusive to cherry and stuff?

>>59287348
nvm looks like they'll fit

>>59287348
Yes, the switch stems are pretty much the same across Cherry and all clones like Gateron, Kailh, etc. The only thing you should be worried about is the actual keyboard layout. Gateron keyboards should have standard layouts, so there's not much to be worried about, but stuff like Corsair keyboards have non-standard bottom rows, which makes it hard to find keys to fit the different sizes they use, or the TADA68, which is a board with Gaterons with a different layout that makes it a bit harder to find sets that completely fit everything.

>>59287660
Great thanks, I'm getting this as my first board but I don't want its but uggly caps
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E57PUNA

>>59287713
Yeah, don't worry about it. The Magicforce is recommended all the time and you'll have no issues finding a keycap set for it.

>novatouched hypersphered hhkb

do people actually do this?

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>>59287290
The keycaps are worse then your steel series. Their barebones keyboards are actually good and good keycaps can be had for around 30 bucks. You could get something like a Ducky One with PBT keycaps for 109 bucks, or even just get new keycaps for your old keyboard, though the enter key will limit your options to whatever sets happen to match. Unless you absolutly need custom keycaps I'd pass on the ones offered by WASD

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>>59288389
Why not man? Whats wrong with it?

>>59288766
Bummer. Main reason I'm starting of thinking to buy a new one is that my space key is starting to get a little bit loose, I've probably slammed it on the right side way too much during these last six years. It gets stuck in a 45 degree angle sometimes. So it's not the keys (I really don't care too much that they're shining since they're black) but the stabilizer (I think it's called?). But if they're that shitty quality I'd probably just stick with my steelseries

But printing an image over the keys is really really tempting... Do any other companies offer custom prints, as in completely custom? I wanna have a BMO print lol

>>59289235
max keyboard offers custom keycaps as well. Now the problem with custom printing is that it will always wear off eventually unless it is part of the mold

>>59289362
Eventually yeah I guess. Has anyone discussed trying to put protective coating on the keys? Kinda like one would do on bike frames to protect the paintjob

>>59290005
The problem is that your oils eat it away, but those do exist and are what WASD uses

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>>59290078
ah shit lol. I'll think about it
thanks for the help dog

>>59281140
aliexpess

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Hey /g/gentlemen, recently sold my K70 for £100, I'm willing to add another £20 to that if need be

UK
I'm looking for a 60% keyboard
Detachable cable
Good quality custom looking keycaps
MX Browns or similar
Dont mind about lighting
£120

>>59290754
GH60

>>59290754
You can get a Pok3r or something similar for about $120, or if you want to get a decent custom keycap set instead of the stock ABS ones, maybe save some money with an Anne Pro, which is $80, and then spend the rest on a keycap set.

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can someone give me a quick rundown on these?

Looking for buying advice, help appreciated.
>Budget: £100
>Location: UK
>Preferred switch type: Cherry MX Brown / MX Blue
>Layout: ISO
>Form factor: 100% / 80%
>Backlight: White
>Previous/current keyboards: Stock HP shit
Wireless would be a bonus, but not necessary.

>>59291506
shit

Cheap ISO 60%ers?

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>>59291506
Also interested

>>59291611
Do better than that

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>want to buy all those fancy keycap sets
>they are more expensive than any of my two mechanical keyboards
>look for the cheap ones
>they are all ugly typefaces with ugly colors

Being a poorfag is suffering.
I'll just settle for some blank white PBT sets, I guess...

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I can get the WASD V2 104 keys for a 100$, new and sealed in a box, owner got it as a gift and wants to sell it.
Should I go for it as my first mechanical keyboard, it's sold for 150$ on their website.

>>59291506

they feels pretty close to domes

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>have a kbd75 and my meme panda switches coming through the post soon, zeal stabs and lube all ready
>my godspeed set is delayed until may

need a cheap pbt filler iso uk set for the interim, wat do

>>59291506
It's a switch pretty much designed around backlighting. That does look great, but apart from that, it feels similar to a rubber dome.

>>59281044
why pcb mount?

Aside from switches and a controller, what do I need to build a hand-wired keyboard?

>>59292835
mounting plate
keycaps
soldering iron
solder
wires
diodes (optional)
bottom housing
access to computer to program

>>59292835
>>59293071
probably stabilizers too

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>>59292344
it's not?

>>59293294
oh i get it now

>>59291548
Keyboardco.com

I have a model m13 and the spring fell out for the right control key where do I get this shit fixed :(

>>59292125
>panda switches
Reminder that "linear enthusiasts" consider pandas and mod linears inferior to regular old gat blacks.

Has anyone here tried this chinkshit keyboard?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LVZU9B0/

It claims to feel similar to a mechanical kb, but at the same price as a membrane. The reviews on Amazon seem to think it's legit, but I can't find any information about this model elsewhere.

>>59295610
Id much rather spend the extra 10 bucks and get a real mechanical keyboard like >>59285854

page 10 ded

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bump for this meme

>>59299236
>Semiotic
>Now this
Is this the beginning of the age of novelty blank keysets?

>>59292070
bump

>>59299565
Yeah it's ok

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been snooping around csg a lot but i thought i'd check with you guys for some advice as well.

>Budget
<$100 aud (lower the better)
>Location (continent at least)
the great outback
>Preferred switch type
not sure between brown or black (would prefer it to be quieter, does o-rings make a big difference?)
>Layout
standard?
>Form factor
preferably tenkeyless but not a dealbreaker, bonus for function keys
>Backlight
yes pls
>Previous/current keyboards
current: microsoft wired keyboard 600, fine for usage but when im shitposting at night i end up missing keys a lot

so far the motospeed inflictor ck104 and redragon k552 look promising but both seem to be blue keys
please help me senpais

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Chink $1 miniusb coiled cable came in the mail
Literally shorter than my dick
Still better looking than the ugly see-through cable I was using before though

>>59299688
Magicforce has different keyboards with a great selection of switches from gateron and cherry. They also have one with outemu switches if you are a poorfag

Say someone doesn't like the sound of any cherry keys
Is there such a thing as "quiet" keycaps?
Rubber o-rings won't solve since this misophonia is mainly about cherry keys being released

>Budget
~$200 aud
>Location (continent at least)
aus
>Preferred switch type
blue
>Layout
qwerty
>Form factor
fullsize, no multimedia keys
>Backlight
no, any backlights are a dealbreaker
>Previous/current keyboards
leopold fc500rc, has been perfect but since spilling water on it it's been having issues. wish i could just buy another one

advice is appreciated.

>Budget
120 - 150€
>Location (continent at least)
Europe - Czechia
>Preferred switch type
Red or Black for gayming
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
I dont care.
>Previous/current keyboards
HP office rubber dome lol

>>59291548
I'd recommend cherry g80-300l but it has no backlight, so Ducky is your best option

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>>59301120
What really gets me is the sound of my roommate's moist bare feet sticking to the kitchen linoleum as he walks around. He does this fucking soft tuneless whistling thing too.

>>59301120
Thicc PBT is as close as you can get, or you can get jelly keycaps

>>59301131
You can get a Ducky One for that price from your local Ducky reseller. I forget what they were called, but you can use google

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r8

>>59302264
Thanks. I shall have to look into that
Someone else suggested those topre keys with a rubber dome inside the switch

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>>59302664
With topre the rubber dome is around the switch. There are other switches that are similar like BTC. You also have Matais QC if you prefer something more tactile then cherry browns, but quieter then a rubber dome.

>>59303019
Thanks info

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thought?

>>59303061
The chink version is cheaper, has more keycap options, and isn't sculpted, also
>Hipsterative

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>>59303061
>ABS

Varmilo VA87 up on ass drop. Thinking about getting it on taobao for much cheaper prices. Is it a worthwhile keyboard to take my mechvirginity?

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Okay I fell for the keyboard meme

I can see how this is better than a normal keyboard. It makes more noises and is harder to type on.

>>59303394
Why not get a slim, quiter and lighter mechanical keyboard?

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Thinking about getting one of these for my ultra classic unicomp. Will this work?

>>59303521
Yes if you got the one without windows keys

>>59301120
There are switches with internal rubber dampers (Cherry silent, Matias quiet). There are also top-mounted dampers. Currently you can only get those from GMK (for PCB mount switches) and Zeal PC (for plate mount).

>>59303586
well shit. looks like I might be fugged then. cant I just remove one or two keys if i have to get it to work?

Any decent mechanical boards for < $50. I'm interested in trying a cherry type of switch. All I've had are buggeling springs.

>>59303946
You'll have to get creative anon. The barrel might cause some interferance

>>59304029
Magicforce, tomoko, and monoprice are good places to start

This is somewhat of a beginner's question: I recently bought a Magicforce 68 with Cherry MX Brown Switches, one of the backlit versions.

I am already thinking about keeping some brown replacement switches on hand, in case any of them ever break; I have a few questions regarding that:

The switches for the Magicforce 68 are what one would call plate-mounted, correct? If I buy replacement switches from here for example: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/cherry-mx-brown-keyswitch-mx1a-g1nn-tactile-bump.html can I simply install these by following the instructions I can find in various YouTube videos (soldering etc.), or do I need to take some special care regarding the LEDs?

I was thinking maybe I need a special version of the switch for LEDs, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

>>59304531
All what the LEDs do is add two extra pins to the switch

>>59304589
So I _do_ need a special switch that supports LEDs? Or can I just thread the pins through it myself somehow? Because I wasn't able to find any plate-mounted Cherry MX Brown switches that explicitly state that they support LEDs.

>>59304667
>Because I wasn't able to find any plate-mounted Cherry MX Brown switches that explicitly state that they support LEDs.
Because they all do.

>>59304684
That's what I was looking for, thank you -- and sorry for the dumb question.

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>>59304667
The LED just slides through the switch. Higher end keyboards have SMD LEDs that mount onto a seperate PCB

>>59304786
Thank you! So that means I can probably just buy 10 switches and have them in reserve, and then see what I do about the LED when it's time.

I just wish shipping costs weren't so high.

>>59304409
Yeah I probably won't do it. Just wished I went with old layout when I bought it. Its more aesthetic anyway.

>>59304801
>I just wish shipping costs weren't so high.
Where are you from?

>>59304902
Germany

>>59304907
Is this a joke? The cheapest place to get cherry products in the world is Germany. You guys even have 5€ cherry mx mechanical keyboards

>>59304931
I suppose I must be an idiot then. I'll see if I can find any german online stores that sell them for cheap.

>>59304940
>>59304931
I even found them on Amazon(.de) now, I'm just an idiot and used english terms -- fuck.

>>59304931
Thanks again for the heads up man, you saved me quite some money.

>>59285397
Nice layout. Would switch ~ and esc personally.

>>59305233
Well the keyboard is fully programmable so you can buy one for 60 bucks on taobao

>>59302523
rgb0/10

>>59285705
Gimme that HHKB Professional II pls

>>59305233
link?

>>59303514
because there is no switch like salmon alps on the market you faggot

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>>59304426
Thanks. Think I'm gonna go with the tomoko or this one from monoprice for 39.99

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>>59308407
or maybe just get this poker II from massdrops for 79.99

>>59280924
Is there a name for the top set? I've been looking for something just like that for my Rosewill RK-9000V2 to replace the shitty stock caps.

>>59307182
What about matias? The make switches with the same stiffness.

>>59309136
Looks like granite

>>59309535
They're not a bad choice if you're prepared to hand wire your own keyboard, but the prebuilts out there are all garbage.

>>59309601
Ducky had a version with LEDs that was a custom prototype and Filco used to sell one with a white backlight, but that was almost a decade ago. They were droped due to no intrest, but now that they're becoming popular I wonder if Ducky will start selling them again

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>>59309549
It's not

>>59309898
I think he's referring to the name of the colorway

What's the cheapest set of white PBT keycaps

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>>59309898
the grey isn't the same, but it still matches the basic colors. That's the name that the chinks use anyway

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>>59302137
Oh Jesus you have thoroughly grossed me out.

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>>59310117
ahh gotcha

Anyone has tried the mechanical eagle z-88? Is it comfy and good for it's low price? I'm looking for a mk with the same layout if you know any other keyboard.

>>59310426
>>59310426
I mean e-element z-88. sorry

>>59280924
is mkg dead?

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My Leopold FC750R arrived today. I like it so far.

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Looks like Ducky is using those "Speed" Cherry Switches, anyone used them on those corsair boards?

>>59312793
/mkg/ will never die


except frequently

but it usually goes in and out of activity

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why are all afraid to talk about this keyboard?

>>59313003
>ISO enter
>ANSI left shift
We don't talk about it because it's garbage.

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>>59312823
Sup side-printed TKL bro

Which keyboard should I buy to make my parents love me?

>>59313471
I've seen these Ganss boards on taobao, where'd you buy them from my dude

>>59313483
Realforce fullsize (not RGB), like a normal member of society.

>>59288805
What's the keycap set name?

>>59314346
GMK Carbon.

>>59314402
hanks corpio

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https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/backlit-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-cherry-mx-brown/

what do people think of this? stuck between this or the motospeed inflictor 104

I'm looking for a black cased Cherry keyboard with non soldered switches, and with a sober look.
Style and font of keycaps is sorta irrelevant, since this can be fixed. Any suggestions?

>>59316436
Oh, also, a full size unit.

>>59294271
Perhaps Unicomp?
http://www.pckeyboards.com/

>>59316436
Chinese E-Element keyboards on amazon

>>59316499
>tfw repro SSKs never

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Hey /g/uys, I just picked this out of a recycling bin at my University.

I've been passively looking for a mk and found this one for free. Can anyone tell me anything about what I found? Not sure if it's any good or not. Frankly I don't know anything about it.
Any info would be appreciated, no matter how obvious it may seem. On the back it says it's made by IBM I'm 1984 in the USA.

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>>59318528
>On the back it says it's made by IBM I'm 1984 in the USA
You're looking at the copyright date
That keyboard is an IBM model M2 which was made between 1990-95
https://deskthority.net/wiki/IBM_Selectric_Touch_Keyboard

>>59318528
>>59318626
also there should be a spring in that open barrel or else the switch won't work, but its scroll lock so who cares.

I forgot to add in order to know the manufacturing date look at the Date #
mine says 24FEB88 meaning it was made in February 24, 1988

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>>59318626
>>59318665

Oh fantastic, thanks for the info. Mine was made 09-Oct-93.

Was this a decent find? Or is this worthless? In the article you linked, it says a common issue was the capacitors failing. I feel like I've watched enough "LCD monitor repair" videos on YouTube to be comfortable replacing the capacitors if the kb doesn't work straight away.

I guess since it's missing that spring, then I have no change of successfully replacing that key? I don't think that's a big deal, is it?

Also, I suppose I need some kind of PS/2 adapter, any specific one recommend?

>>59318754
My computer has a ps/2 port so I just plugged it in and it worked. Now keep in mind PS/2 is not hot swapable so you have to turn the computer off every time you want to plug the keyboard in. I think any ps/2 to usb adapter should work, if not an active adapter will work. Now you can get springs from Unicomp since they still make model Ms
https://www.pckeyboard.com/

>>59310218
aliexpress has one for like 16 bucks. but salvaging caps from old keyboards might be even cheaper, where are you located?

>>59318754
Thats a decent find. Its the last buckeling spring board they made, produced by lexmark instead of ibm.

I was thinking of buying either a Ducky One or a Motospeed CK104/Aukey KM-G3, the Ducky One I'm sure is way better quality wise but I've been wanting to get an RBG keyboard for a while. Does anyone have experience with either? I would replace the keycaps on both so they're irrelevant.

>>59318853
I'm looking into adapters now, apparently most can be quite temperamental. I'll see if I can find a cheap one <$5 or so.
And I'll look into the springs. Do I just need one spring, or do I need a mechanism that clicks as well (in additional to the actual key that is).

>>59319397
And that's neat to hear, thanks.

>>59319572
no just one spring is all you need. Also you'll still have to turn the computer off, plug the keyboard in, then turn it on back again.

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got my wasd keyboard today
love the quality so for
hope its a good start into the mechanical keyboard world

>>59319783
that looks ugly

>>59319783
sup swissfriend :^)

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>>59319783
Vo welem Kanton bisch?

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Considering ordering this off Taobao, anyone used this before?

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=545909108378

>>59320812
Ask>>59313471

>>59320770
Hoenn. :^)

>>59313580
I got mine off Amazon, I don't think they stock them anymore
>>59320812
I have the black one, and I believe the white ones are a different model altogether, but it's very heavy and solid, matte finish, no key chatter or pinging.
I just recommend buying some nice THICC PBT caps with the money you save.

>>59321181
Thanks, the one i'm looking at comes with PBT dye sub caps so its got that going for it. Its like 8 dollars more than the regular ones.

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>>59318754
i love my m2. it is super light and space saving width-wise. The dye sub thick pbt keycaps are amazing too. It still is an IBM product after all.
but all that doesn't matter if the keyboard doesn't work. it's a bitch and a bit risky to fix this crap, but worth it imo if your keyboard otherwise is in good condition.

I'm using this Monoprice adapter on mine right now:

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Keyboard-Converter-Adapter-110934/dp/B00IACID2C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489088072&sr=8-1&keywords=monoprice+ps2+usb+adapter

>>59319783
What in the fuck is that abomination?
>Gray modifiers and black alpha, but WAIT there's white numerics
>Blue fucking Spacebar?
>Non-uniform placement of symbols
>WASD keycaps that will wear away quickly

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What's /g/'s opinion on SteelSeries boards?

>>59321441
terrible, overpriced gamer trash

>>59321283
Good to hear, thanks! I don't currently know if it works or not, but will buy an adapter and see for myself. I was looking for adapters for the last hour or so, and that mono price is probably the best reviewed one I have in my cart atm. Although a few sites/youtube videos have said I need the "active" adapter.... so thank you for the feedback that the passive one does indeed work. Did you need to install any specific drivers or anything, or did it work once plugged in? Also, with your monoprice adapter, is the keyboard fully functional, or are there any intricacies that do not work?

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>>59321441
wtf is that spacebar

or that entire bottom row for that matter

>>59321303
Everytime I see a set from wasd that someone has custom designed I wonder if giving people that many options is a good idea. It seems like the colors they offer are terrible.

>>59321547
>did it work once plugged in?
yup. im currently using it on an Arch linux setup, probably barebones as it gets and every keys work as they should including the function keys.
I've tested the adapter + keyboard on Windows 7 as well. just werks out of the box

Is ebay a good place to shop pack of cherry switches?

>>59321915
Perfect, thanks for the info. Just bought one, and will post back in mkg when it arrives and I try it out. In the meantime I will try cleaning the hell out of this keyboard. Since our model does not have keycaps like some of the other Model M keyboards, am I safe to just gently pry off the keys with a plastic prybar? I see you have a special tool for that, is that mandatory to use?

>>59321969
try mechanicalkeyboards.com if you're in US

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=43

>>59321728
>want to make my first custom keyboard
>have the opportunity to make something more ergonomic like atreus or ergodox
>afraid I won't get used to the layout

I won't make an ergodox because that will be a big jump between types of keyboard I've used, but I might make an Atreus. The thing is, I will only use standard ISO keycaps. Would it look retarded if I designed my own tilted layout? I can't see myself getting used to pressing ctrl and shift down there.

>>59322023
Im looking for cherry mx red in clear and I live in canada.

>>59322133
>cherry mx red
eww. don't buy that scratchy shit, get gaterons instead

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>>59322011
>am I safe to just gently pry off the keys with a plastic prybar
no you should use at least a plastic keycap puller. wire puller is even better.
gently wriggling and prying may work for mx keycaps, but these m2 ones have long stems that really dig inside the barrels

why do people shit on browns so much?

I bought a testkit and I kind of like them the most. I don't like using a lot of force and prefer the slight tactility. I wish they were clicker though. Blues are nice but idk, it's harder to type the same key in rapid succession.

I like the clears but they remind me of my old alps black keyboard, my dell. Which gave me wrist pain from typing on it so much. I want something more low impact so it's either browns or blues, leaning towards browns.

Thoughts?

>>59322142
I'm looking for comfy linear switches. How are the gateron better?

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>>59322081
> I will only use standard ISO keycaps
>Would it look retarded if I designed my own tilted layout?
probably, but whatever works for you bruh

I have no idea why you'd bother with ISO on a 40%. Especially considering nothing about 40% is "standard"

>>59322174
bcuz they shit

>>59322287
they're smoother

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>>59322287
gaterons are no where near as disgusting as cherry

>>59322297
Oh and they are cheaper! Thanks mate

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>>59322287
Gateron stem mold (left image) is smoother. Doesn't matter though, with use, Cherry stems become smooth as well

So gateron but I'm new to mk and I've lurked quite alot. But what could I be better off to start with? Black, red? I want a silky smooth feels when typing

>>59322355
not that smooth, also cherry switches are a lot more expensive.
>>59322081
you will get used to an ergodox. if not just change the firmware a bit.

>>59322434
gateron clear is 35g actuation force so it is probably the lightest linear switch you can buy

>>59322434
>I want a silky smooth feels when typing
that would be topres

>>59322297
Didn't make myself clear, sorry. I'd have more keys because I need the Fs and some others (pgup, etc). It would be kind of a 75%

>>59322465
that's nowhere near the most smooth. hall effect are more smooth.

>>59322434
I'd say reds. I've used blues for a long time, and switching to Gateron reds is like typing on a cloud. It's smooth as fuck.

>>59322514
Ok I will get some reds for starter and maybe with time I will try something else.
>>59322461
I'm quite a heavy typer so maybe the gateron clears might to sensible atm

>>59310315
How is the quality of them? I need some nice, thick PBT caps

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>>59322484
Ahh, I understand. I've seen some people do 60% Atreus builds. Seems to work out fine from what I can tell.

I got used to typing on my Atreus very quickly, but I still dont use it as much as my poker 3.

My A key tends to bug out and either doesn't work when pressed and I would have to press it again for it to actually have an input, and sometimes it would double input A.

Would this be a board problem or the keyswitch itself?

>>59322169
Okay good to know. I will more than likely attempt to make a removal tool when the time comes to clean it then.

>>59321469
but muh macros

what are my options for a 60% or TKL with gateron clears/red ?

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>>59323123
what? have you ever compared the shit steelseries calls programmability to something like qmk firmware?

>>59323127
Magicforce, gh60, va.68

>>59323174
I just was kidding

>>59291803
How goes swapping the caps on these Filco boards? I've found a well priced Majestouch 2 on ebay I might pick up for work, but I read that Filco uses their own stabs for longer keys?

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My TADA68 just arrived. Liking Gateron browns more than Cherry ones, but it's still kinda weird. Good keyboard though.

>>59323798
they come with the required inserts

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>>59323798
They use costar stabilizers and slides which you simply swap from the old caps to the new.

>>59324033
Aluminum casing?
From AE? Or TB?
How much you cop it for?

>>59324404
Standard plastic case. Got it for $60 on Taobao.
Mostly just wanted to try Gateron browns and the layout, but so far I'm not sure if it's going to replace my other two boards. Would definitely recommend if you just want a single versatile keyboard though.

>>59324427
Got a link ?

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>>59324427
I see. Was planning to get that, too but I dunno. Thinking about the Varmilo VB87M for its Bluetooth functionality while maintaining arrowkeys.

>>59324457
Here you go: https://world.taobao.com/item/537653557670.htm?fromSite=main

>>59324473
If you need Bluetooth with arrow keys you're pretty limited, but that should be a good option.

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>>59301120
I've got a Corsair STRAFE with MX Cherry Silents. I can confirm MX silents aren't a meme and the keyboard is extremely quiet.

>>59324134
>>59324325
Ah that's fine then thanks

>>59324325
Damn that's pretty

https://geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=54222.msg2377242#msg2377242

hasu finished his 660c controller

So now that these new hall effect keyboards have shipped from assdrop what do people think of them? I have heard they are more scratchy than the original but it is exciting that they are being made again at all. Are they going to be sold in a store somewhere?

>>59324325
Where can we get those pretty key caps?

>>59325524
The guy plans to keep working on the design and make further improvements, so if you wait another year they might not be scratchy anymore.

>>59280924
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/alps-keycaps

Will these fit on my Filco Majestouch 2? I just joined and am not sure. Thanks :)

>>59325560
Those are Tai-hao lavender. you can get them from ebay or massdrop

>>59325614
Yes, but only if you have the Filco with a steel mounting plate LEDs

>>59325560
Thanks

>>59325614
Filco makes keyboards with alps switches?

>>59325841
they used to

>>59325841
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Filco_Zero