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/pcbg/ - PC Building General: Emergency Copypasta Edition

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Post your component list, rate other anons', and ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

Assemble your parts list; built-in price comparisons by vendor and a compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com

Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.
>Consider using an i5 7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo
>Consider a B250 or mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build
>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050ti, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB for 1080p

General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
http://pastebin.com/F9diF2hA (embed)

Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>Outdated chipset information

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg
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>>59275181
>>59275181
What are you archiving? if it can be compressed you'll want the 8c/16t Ryzen chip for faster encoding/compressing vs the i7
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my cousin becomes 10 in a couple weeks
she wants a switch but ill try to convince her to get a pc ill help make a budget one
id be pro the switch if zelda didnt dip to fukin 20 fps
anyway hows this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2t83BP
the store im buying from has a be quiet pure power 9 for the same price which is semi modular and silver but its 400w
should i get that or is 400w too low?
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>>59275477
>two seperate sticks of ram instead of a kit of 2
durp

rest is fine but maybe get a 470 instead
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>>59275569
the lowest 470 in the store im buying is like 20 euro less than the lowest 480 4 gb
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>>59275639
>480 4GB
literally a 470
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>>59275653
thats 7 more fps
means in the future if game is 30 fps it would be 23 in the 470
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>>59275653
Dude the increase from 470 to 480 4GB is twice as much as the increase from 480 4GB to 480 8GB
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>>59275687
That means if a future game is 6 fps it would actually suck frames of life from your eyeballs with the 470
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>>59275687
>means in the future if game is 30 fps it would be 23 in the 470
that's not how anything thinks
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>>59275771
works*
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What's the best water cooler for an i7-7700K?
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>>59275820
custom loop with 2x triple radiators
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>>59275820
Kraken x62 or custom loop
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>>59275820
>>59275838
Gamers nexus has a very thorough and detailed review on it
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>>59275477
Just buy an 8gb kit

Diamond has an 8GB reference card for $199

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/diamond-video-graphic-cards/radeon-rx400-series

Get a Seasonic S12II PSU minimum
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>>59275477
>my cousin becomes 10 in a couple weeks
>10
Just let her get the switch
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>i7 4770k oc'd at 4
>16 gig ram
>780

Would my cpu bottleneck a 1080 or 1080ti?
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>>59275901
This. Consoles are way more normie proof, pretty much 0 troubleshooting and works right out the box
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>>59275903
No.
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>>59275901
she cant pirate games on the switch
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>>59275820
You need to delid it to get good temps

a Master Liquid 240 is really good for the money
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>>59275978
>she can literally be a criminal with a PC tho
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>>59275978
Being 10 years old it's probably best she doesn't pirate anything. Stop being such an autist anon.
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>>59276117
they cant do shit against a minor
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>>59276162
Yes they can, just because someone is underage doesnt mean they are allowed to walk into a store and steal merchandise
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>>59275838
>Kraken x62

That's pretty pricey, but I'll make the investment I guess.

>>59275987

>delid it

I've read drops upwards of 20°C, but I'm not confident in my abilities to delid such an expensive chip. Should I maybe call up some PC shops to see if anyone can do it?
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>>59276589
>Should I maybe call up some PC shops to see if anyone can do it?
They probably won't do it because if they fuck it up they'll owe you $300 something

just buy a delid kit, gamers nexus should have a video out on it at some point
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>>59275392
>AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA
If you live outside USA, you're not living in a country at all.
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So, pretty much can't do better for an ITX entry level gaming rig right?

Missing the G4560, but it's sold out on newegg

has to include a monitor
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>>59276589

If you don't delid, it shouldn't be a huge problem if you don't overclock your CPU all that much. The Kraken x62 will keep temps stable enough.
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>>59275392
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zbykm8
I'll probably get a 1080 Ti instead of a 1070. R8 pls?
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>>59276785
not found, what's your display resolution?
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Rate:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4h77d6
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>>59276806
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZBYKM8
Try this, and it's 1440p.
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>>59276840
And why aren't you getting a better CPU in the Ryzen R7 1700 by getting a sata 240GB SSD for $70, and Fury for around $250 ? Because a good CPU will last you longer than a better GPU
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>>59276821
Microsoft 8.1?
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>>59276906
It's literally impossible for an unlocked i5 to bottleneck a GPU.
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>>59276950
Well sure, but for 60hz gaming a cheaper locked i5 and motherboard will do fine

or even a G4560 will be fine for the most part for 60hz gaming

http://www.techspot.com/review/1087-best-value-desktop-cpu/
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6mKDKZ

Is this hard drive large enough? Will mostly be playing video games, watching anime, and doing light writing on it. How is the monitor as well? Will most likely be switching out the 480 for a newer model when the RX 500s come out in April. Any help would be recommended.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YsgxNN
>started building in november during black friday
>got the 3tb drives for only $30 each
>apu+mobo=$99
>got mad rebates
>built over time for a total cost of only about $600
>posting from it now
>last of the parts are arriving this week
>multipurpose jack-of-all-trades budget box ftw
>100+ fps in warband
>raid 0 6tb array for smooth video editing
>red led fan will provide nice nightlight
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>>59276821
Get a bigger HDD. 1TB fills up faster that you think.
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>>59276981
It looks fine, but you could drop the SSD and jump to the R7 1700 with one of the $99 B350 boards
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Best CPU for LGA775 Socket?
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>>59277019
>drop the SSD

No one should build a PC in 2017 without an SSD. It's the single biggest boost to performance you can get.
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>>59277019
Aren't SSDs more or less necessary in this day and age though? I mean, I would love to get on the Ryzen train but I feel like an SSD is pretty important.
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>>59277023
The core 2 quad extreme? Just get a Q6600, why are you running 775?

>>59277038
>>59277030
You can just add an SSD later? Upgrading the CPU later is much harder.

just split your hard drive with a 150gb partion for the OS, clone it when you get your SSD, and you're all set
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>>59277019
Why do you think he would benefit from the cpu ?
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>>59276821
Get the XFX GTR RX 480. That or the Sapphire Nitro+.
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>>59277055
Mor.
Cores.

Helps with minimum frame rates at times, is easily worth living on a hard drive for a month or so
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>>59277051
but i have the q6600 ;_;
cant afford a new system for a while, i've had this one for a few years now
lot's of sata and an ide port, q6600, just added a usb3 pcie card
need ram, and figured there may be a better cpu

i'm seeing xeon x5460 modded for the 775 a lot on ebay, how's that? or is there a better one?
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>>59277051
Moving info from an HHD to an SSD is much harder than moving info from an SSD to an HDD.
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>>59277077
Don't waste your money on 775, just save up for Ryzen R3&R5, should be a 4c/4t overclockable CPU for $129 USD
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Realistically no one should be getting an i5 build now. Wait a couple of months for the R5 and then make the decision.

i5 prices are almost guaranteed to go down by then.
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>>59277086
How so?
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>>59277088
>i can spend ~$80 now and get a couple more years if not more out of this PC which works for what I need
>or I can spend "$129" (plus mobo plus ram plus other things I may need) = $300+
hmmm
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>>59277086
How so?
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>>59277106
Hell if I know, I just tried it in the past and it was a pain to do (had to do a full restart, save my previous memory to an external, then re-input it in the SSD on a factory reset). What information do you have to support that it is as simple as you say it is?
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>>59277136
just create an image and install it to the new drive?
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>>59276906
A plain fury will not hold up at 1440p and even a fury X barely does
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>>59276950
It's not. Most games just don't suffer much from CPU bottlenecks at current resolutions. It's conceivable that his 7600k will be a bottleneck in some future title where the 1700 would not, but at the moment it comes down to the fact that a Kaby Lake core is a little bit faster than a Ryzen core, and tends to overclock better to the order of 800MHz on air. The Ryzen chip would still be around 40% faster at most workloads, and potentially much faster than that in certain special cases, but it's just not a good value proposition for his games. To get a decent OC, he'd also need to have one of the high-end Ryzen boards, which are rather expensive right now due to limited supply and high demand. So, basically, a Ryzen build would cost him almost $200 more for benefits that he might never experience. If he honestly wants to spend another $200, a 512GB SSD and 16GB of RAM would serve him better.
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>>59277125
except ya know, you won't get a couple of years because that $80 CPU will hardly be faster than what you have now
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>>59277136
Because a hard drive and SSD aren't any different to the PC when you're doing partitions
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Depends what plans you have for your build. If you're the type that upgrades every 2-3 years then just get Intel cause it's faster now.

If you plan on using your CPU for 5+ years then Ryzen 1700 is the only choice. This guy explains everything you need to know:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sciuiEcrnzg
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on image becaus eim lazy and its 3:44 AM
8K PLN (around 2000 USD, but you cant really exchange it like this ), 3D game art, Poland.
Would like to improve rendering times a little, but dont want to switch motherboard. Any advice?
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>>59277218
What will he be doing a couple years from now that will be prevented by his cpu?
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>>59276749
460 is pretty shit go with 1050
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>>59277218
2.4Ghz vs 3.xGhz plus ram going from 6GB to 16GB (and switching to ssd for OS drive) will make a slight difference, I reckon
it's not just CPU i'll be upgrading
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>>59277348
Well if you're going to upgrade more, why not upgrade to a modern platform? If nothing else Ryzen should also have a $199 4c/8t chip that'll be hitting 4ghz
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>>59277329
1050 doesn't come in 4gb variants, and the cards are generally even, not to mention there are no 1050s with 6 pin headers, and DX12/Vulkan seem to scale better for AMD
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>>59277348
You'll be fine. I still have a pentium e5300 in my office with 4gb ram and a 240gb hdd. It gets the job done
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>>59277370
see >>59277125
$80 will cover the ram and cpu upgrade from sources i've seen
i have ssd's, and everything else is good to go
moving to a new platform is at least a 200-300 upgrade
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Which 1070 is best bang for buck/most reliable?
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>>59277492
Just buy whichever one you like most
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So I herd that GPUs with blowers that exhaust hot air might be better in ITX cases with low air flow. I realize that I may have to underclock, but I can't find a GTX 1080 with a backplate. Does a backplate really matter if my air flow is crappy to begin with?
I am dead set on a 1080, as the Ti will likely just produce more heat than that which is acceptable. Is this assumption incorrect?
I am using a Fractal Design Node 202.
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Rate my current build. Should I upgrade my GPU next? I'll probably grab an RX 480 in the coming months
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>>59277285
The other anon in the thread got me thinking. Should I just take out the SSD in my build to make it cheaper and open up space for a Ryzen CPU and mobo?
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>>59277528
Back plates are for aesthetics
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>>59277528
What's your display?
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>>59277537
if that's a 290 or 290X wait for Vega
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>>59277537
5/10
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>browsing internet as usual
>PC suddenly cuts out
>restarts itself a few seconds later
>can hear the windows startup jingle through headset but there's no video output
>assume it's a GPU issue, decide to try turning it off and on just in case
>turn off, turn o-BZZ
>now it doesn't turn on at all

Oh well, my days of pretending to be a pc expert are over. Unless any of you have any bright ideas I'll have to admit defeat and take it to get repaired.
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>>59277173
>>59277235
I'm just going to wait until I have all my money saved up to buy it then decide whether or not to go intel or AMD (R5 might be out by then, who knows). This is the edited build (leaving out mobo and CPU for now). What do you guys think?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ddRxNN
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>>59277553
3440x1440
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I'm getting two 1080 Ti's already pre-ordered. How do I connect both of them to the motherboard for best quality/speed? I'll be gaming with my wife using Aster, and running machine learning on it.

Never built pc before, not sure the best way to set up 2 gpu's.

Rampage v edition 10 mobo, 6850k CPU.
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I don't know where to start with a build and I could use help.
1. I want to build a server in a tower case with really good hot-swappable storage.
2. I have a NAS that I would like to sync from it too, so it should have some storage.
3. I'd also like it to be a VM server. I won't need many VM's up at once, just store 4-5 and play.

I guess I'm looking for a good motherboard, CPU and maybe case suggestion to get started, and I can figure out the rest. Bonus points if the motherboard has console access over ethernet or serial port
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>>59277627
Then get the 1080ti for sure, blower vs dual fan really won't matter, your case should have some vent holes for air flow
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>>59277633
Hello fellow ML practitioner
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>>59277626
Looks pretty good to me.
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>>59277626
Why are you buying an overpriced TN display? Newegg has a 1080p IPS display with VESA for $75 right now, otherwise they're about $100

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824160221&ignorebbr=1
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>>59277647
How did you connect them all together?

That's a nice number of cores. What are your training times?
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>>59277626
did you actually buy the RAM?
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>>59277566
its a 290. Whens Vega? Julyish?

>>59277575
Better than I thought, I guess that's mostly due to the GPU being older?
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>>59277633
Why are you getting a 6850k instead of an R7 1700?

>>59277647
What is machine learning even good for?
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>>59277664
I was looking for a 24" monitor with low response time. That has neither. If you want low response times, you have to pay for it. At least, that's what I've found.
>>59277673
Yes...? Why?
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>>59277690
Better multi core speeds, got it new for 400 on CL
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>>59277690
It's good for machine learning. Prediction. Automation. Optimizations. Classifying, labeling, new GAN developments are cool as shit. You can generate images just by typing what you want to see. Sentiment analysis is great too.

I'm more into nlg/nlp myself.
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>>59277711
Um no, about all TN displays will have 1ms reponse times, and IPS is generally better than TN for daily use

as for 1ms vs 5ms it won't matter, what matters more for that kind of stuff is refresh rates

buy this 75hz free-sync display instead at least
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hqmxFT/aoc-monitor-g2260vwq6


Ryzen is currently picky about RAM for getting to top speeds, won't matter for most people
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>>59277690
>>>59277647
>What is machine learning even good for?
Not that person but you can do this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG-LATBZNBs

There are many applications to train and test an algorithm with input data that interests you.
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>>59277770
>>59277732
STOP TRYING TO CREATE SKYNET YOU FUCKS
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>>59277755
You are still missing the key factor of screen size though. Most of those are in the 21.5"-22" range, when I am looking to have 24" monitor. And according to pcpartpicker, no monitor that is TN has 1ms response time.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lchwpb
r8
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GxKDKZ
Please give me some feedback.
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>>59277777

five sevens
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>>59277777
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>>59277777
It will happen anyways..... Might as well have skynet be lenient to its creators than you, neet
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>>59277788
TN displays are the only ones that can have 1ms response time, that one has 1ms response time, why are you dead set on 24" just move the monitor slightly closer, 22" vs 24" is 100ppi vs 90 ppi, not a big difference at all
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>>59277777
>>59277808
>>59277835
>>59277853
No god damned it, it happened again, we're fucking doomed
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>>59277858
I have heard that 21.5" to 22" monitors are a bit too small, especially for gaming purposes.
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>>59277777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Y_I9vY8Qw
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>>59277858
>TN displays are the only ones that can have 1ms response time,
So he should get a TN monitor then.
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>>59277869
24 inch is the 1080p sweet spot
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>>59277887
Exactly my point why I should get a 24 inch monitor.
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>>59277869
Why would it be too small? It's hardly different, it's sharper even.

>>59277887
>>59277900
No, no you idiots, how a 1080p 60hz display worse than a 1080p 75hz free-sync display for gaming?
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>>59277887
>>59277900
Just fyi. I'm not >>59277858
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>>59277920
>It's hardly different, it's sharper even.
That's not how resolution and display works.
>how a 1080p 60hz display worse than a 1080p 75hz free-sync display for gaming?
Because of the size of the screen you dipshit.
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>>59277939
>That's not how resolution and display works.
Yes it is, it's a direct fucking correlation

1080p at 22" is sharper than a 24" 1080p display, it's why a 40" 1080p display looks like shit close up, because the pixels are physically bigger

>Because of the size of the screen you dipshit.
literally makes no real difference given the 2 inch difference, the real difference is in getting a better refresh rate and having free-sync since he's getting a 480 anyways
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>>59277970
>literally makes no real difference given the 2 inch difference
There is a big difference between a 22" monitor and a 24" one though. I've had both and a 24" one makes a huge difference.
>the real difference is in getting a better refresh rate
15hz is barely a big leap.
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>>59277633
So can anyone help me here?
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>>59277492
I always recommend the MSI Gaming X variants because they have the best cooling
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>>59277633
>>59278054
Motherfucker are you literally retarted?
You should have used Google first.
You have to use an SLI compatible motherboard, then buy a 2-way SLI bridge. Its not even worth doing SLI though, you will have so much microstuttering
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>>59278118
I know about sli bridges, but are there any alternatives to sli for this? Got 2 cards because it's the price of pascal I returned. I'll be running aster to game with my wife, so we'll be using one of the two cards ourselves at the same time, so idk about stuttering
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>>59277673
>>59277711
Pls respond
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Which PC build should i go with?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwTghq OR https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bFcLYr
I live in The United States of Tardica, no, i dont planning on doing major overclocking, maybe a 100MHz if on Intel, probably none on Ryzen. Sound is not a big problem, but i dont want a fucking jet plane. Budget is $1500. If R5s are released by april, i will go with 1600X instead. Price improvements would be nice. No FUCKING AMD GRAPHICS.
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>>59278186
0/10 made me reply
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>>59278193
I liked the first one more
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PbTDKZ
Looking to get the price down to around $1250. Any suggestions?
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>>59278261
Are you firm with your ssd and cpu cooler picks?
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>>59278242
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>>59278261
M.2 is not worth it. NVMe or regular SSD. Let me just tell you, nvme is pretty pricey.
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>>59278193
What are your plans for the build? If only gaming / general use then both CPUs are overkill.

You're better off saving CPU & Mobo money and getting a 1070 for gaming.

This is what I would go with in that budget

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vBDvYr

Make no mistake this CPU will last you for 5 years easily. The fact of the matter is that for general use you simply do not need anything more than a $200 CPU.
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>>59278284
Are you the one looking for a monitor?
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>>59278261
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ycsWX
>>59278303
Thanks anon
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>>59275392
I had to RMA my PSU and motherboard. How likely is it other components are damaged as well, and if the PSU did in fact damage other parts like the GPU or CPU will their warranties cover them? It's been about 90 days.

Parts list, my old PSU is different than what is listed; it was a CX650m that went bad.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CgffGf

Pic related is a black & tan I poured for you.
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>>59278304
Yes I am that anon.
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>3570k
>660 Ti

Which one should I upgrade first?
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>>59278348
You should always RMA everything, no matter what part went wrong
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>>59278367
GPU always.
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>>59278367
660ti
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>>59278288
Isn't 960 evo NVMe?
>>59278281
I could probably get a lower end cooler from a different company if it has good rep. I don't know much about heatsinks, just know that noctua is highly recommended.
Thee SSD is more of a vanity item than anything and I just wanted to have it to try it out. if in the end I can't figure out how to get the price lower, I might change it to a regular ssd.
>>59278332
Thanks. I guess dropping the ssd is the only choice.
Are EVGA psus good? The only two brands I have heard of are Seasonic and corsair.
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>>59278373
I've reached out to many different resources before I did anything and never heard that advice. Why would you send everything in?
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>>59278360
https://www.amazon com/AOC-G2460PF-24-Inch-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B01BV1XBEI/ref=sr_1_5?tag=amazon0606-20&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461901857&sr=1-5&keywords=144hz+monitor
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>>59278385
Yes, EVGA makes decent PSUs, though i wouldn't recommend anything below an 80+ gold or anything from their NEX lineup.
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>>59278401
Just in case. It could have done damage and still be functional, and you just havent noticed, and you dont want to be in a situation months or years later where it finally fails
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>>59278426
Don't they test everything that comes in?
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>>59278412
I was more so asking about that anon's questioning that I had already bought that RAM, but thanks for that too.
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>>59278426
That makes sense. Does that include storage media or just PSU, CPU, GPU, and motherboard, or other expansion cards I don't have.
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>>59278444
I only sent my PSU and motherboard in, therefore my GPU and CPU could technically still be broken and I wouldn't know until I can test them with my new motherboard
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Currently running a 4GB 770 with an i5 6600K and 16GB RAM. I have a good deal on an R9 290 ($120 USD) and plan on maybe moving my current GPU to a build for my sister. Should I pull the trigger on this? I might end up buying Vega as well when it launches (after the reviews come out) but don't mind having other GPUs laying around.
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If I were to get a 1700 for overclocking, X370 Taichi, and RX 480, would I be fine with a 550W PSU or would I have to buy a new one with higher wattage? I don't want to spend more on a new PSU.
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Anyone here using XFX GTR 480 ?
Do you have the black edition ? What clock speeds do you get with it ?
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>>59278601
You'll be totally fine but just know that CPU is way way way way overkill compared to the GPU.
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>>59278601
See >>59278625
Just wait for fucking VEGA. Might as well wait for 1600x as well
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>>59278601
Meant see >>59278629
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>>59278629
How so?
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>>59278629
I'm aware. I plan on keeping the CPU for the lifespan of AM4.

>>59278633
Is Vega gonna have a GPU in the $200-$250 price range? I'm not feeling the RX580 rebrand.
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>>59278648
The 550W PSU will be fine for the entire lifespan as long as you keep to midrange GPUs
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>>59278657
Cool. I can save those 70-80 bucks then. I'd like a modular PSU but I don't want to pay extra for one if I don't already need it.
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>>59278648
Doubt it. I think the lowest price range will be around $450
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>>59278648
>>59278648
>Vega gonna have a GPU in the $200-$250 price range?
Lol it will most likely be the rx 580. Or are you referring to the architecture/series?
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>>59278672
RX 580 is just a rebrand of the 480

Vega is a totally new architecture and it will most likely only be high end.
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>>59278475
Storage media I have no idea. If it has a warrany, ans you havent installed anything important that you can't get off, i would RMA it
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>>59278671
>>59278677
Then I'm not waiting for 580. I'm considering waiting for the 1600/X if it launches in April or early May, but I'm not buying any card higher than the 4/580 when I'm still playing games at 1080p and not looking to go higher.
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>>59278736
The rx 480 will probably be good until 2019 desu
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zH4TD8

r8
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>>59278971
Everything looks fine, I'd go for the MSI 1070 for better cooling.
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>>59278677
>RX 580 is just a rebrand of the 480
why tf are they doing this instead of calling it the 570
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Will a i5 6600k and 1060 6gb run well with this monitor?

LG 25in 21:9 IPS panel
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824025212
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>>59278971
>looking at prices
>why is everything so hihg
>lol it's australia lol
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>>59277624
You are the victim of a "bug" -- a small arthropod entered your computer and shorted something important, instantly dying. What kind of "bug" was it, and what was it up to?
>a curious spider interested in eating whatever was producing all that warmth and vibration coming out of your case
>a curious housefly who got bounced around inside after catching a neat current of air into your case
>a curious centipede chasing prey but getting lost inside your case
>a curious cockroach who wandered out of your closeted collection of semen bottles in search of fresh spunk and followed the smell into your case
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wxsrLD
reposting, budget is 700 but i want to spend less, build is for gaming
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>>59279079
gaming?
Just watch some 1440p benchmarks, this monitor has 33% less pixels, so it will do couple FPS more.
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>>59279124
For gaming, yeah. I'll check them out, thanks
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So here's a question. I'm going to be gaming in 1080 now and maybe 1440 in the future. I'll probably want to max every game, and possibly super sample. Should I hang on to hope for Vega? Or just go with a 8gb 480? I'll also give Nvidia a shot GPU wise but I really don't like their mid tier priced cards- it feels like the 480 is just strictly better value.

Also upgrading from an r9 290.
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>>59279033
>MSI 1070 for better cooling

Retard.
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>>59279112
desu if I were to build a gaming rig at that budget I'd rather go FX8300.

The Pentium is way faster in single threads but there are games like BF1 where a dual core simply can't keep up anymore.

Especially going forward into 2017 I'm pretty confident the 8300 is the smarter choice.

At the end of the day both will give you perfectly playable 60FPS at 1080p but the 8300 will give you some backup for games that are more multithreaded


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TsnVHN
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>>59279085

Thanks for the amazing input.
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>>59279192
Nice argument there.

MSI's Twin Frozr VI is the best aftermarket cooler available. You can go watch reviews for any card you want you'll see the MSI consistently comes on top for low noise and low temps.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9QcsWX
R8/H8
Under $410
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>>59279253
128gb is not enough. You need an HDD
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B6NVHN
i would appreciate some input on what i can optimize from this g4560 budget build. my budget is 450-500, and the rx470 on amazon is having a nice rebate to put it at 150 from what i see. i'm pretty confident in this build, but i'd like to hear opinions before i finally order everything on wednesday
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>>59279285
Not going to be saving pictures, movies, music etc.
Just games and some documents
Maybe some emulators
Plus i delete all the application i don't need no more
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>>59279352
i guess if you're playing one game at a time it can be doable but i'd suggest a 500/250GB HDD just in case
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Will this build be good for a mobile pc other than the cpu cooler
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>>59277770
ITS JUST LIKE FUCKING MAX HEADROOM!
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>>59279499
Sick rice my dude, but you could have just posted a fucking link.
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>>59279559
Thanks man kek just wanted to flaunt it a little
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Hey /g/,

I've built my PCs primarily for gaming. After being team red for so long I decided to jump ship and take advantage of Intel's sale on its 6600k (copped it for $269 CAD)

In terms of a mobo and after a lot of research I'm kind of set on either the MSI z170 Krait or the Asus z170-a. I've been a really loyal Asus customer, and I've always gone out of my way to pick their shit wherever I could granted the price was decent.

Because of this I'm leaning to the z170a, but I'm now hearing they have surge protection issues with Corsair PSUs (I own a CS650m). Is this something to be concerned about and instead buy the MSI board? Or am I being paranoid?
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>>59279343
p-plz respond
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>>59279798
Looks good to me
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>>59275414
I archive the shit out of everything I do, work, hobbys, gate keys, games, movies, and all the pirated shit I've accumulated over the years

>>>59275181
I've updated the build pic related
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N2ZmBP
is this the cheapest 1080p gaming pc I can make?
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>>59279855
A Skylake cpu may be cheaper in your area, the stock cpu cooler will be more then enough and it comes with pre applied thermal paste
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>>59279839
Forgot the link
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MpNVHN
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>>59279839
What are you doing with 3000mhz ram?
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Is the XFX XT 500W 80+ Bronze a good PSU, is this brand good in general? I hear it's made by seasonic.
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>>59279873
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jq9HQV
like this?
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>>59279891
It would be nice for 3-d rendering and video editing, plus it wasn't that much more than slower ram
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Should my i5 3570k at 4.4ghz last for another 2 years?
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>>59279912
The cpu looks more expensive in pcpartpicker, just look for whatevers cheapest in your area.
>>59279946
The motherboard you selected only uses 2133, it will run it at 2133mhz even if you put higher freq ram in it.
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With an Asus Rampage V Edition 10 mobo, and two 1080 Ti's, will there be enough room for an HB SLI bridge? Which kind should I get? Normal, soaced, or 3 way? Any alternative to sli bridge for 2 gpu setup?
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>>59279973
Shit, didn't notice that, changed the ram instead of the motherboard cause its dimensions fit the case well
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xMr8m8
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What fan would be most suitable for intake on a Silverstone SG13 case? I'm tossing up between the Noctua NF-S12A and NF-F12. The S12A is quieter apparently, but I'm not sure it will have enough static pressure for this cramped case.

https://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=1028057
https://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?e=1690560
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just finished my work on this puppy
sleeper with all original startup sounds
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>>59277030
>>59277038
Because /g/ has an irrational hate towards SSD
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>>59277136
Most ssd has a migration software hdd to ssd.
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>>59280225
>>>/pol/
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>>59280377
/pol/, or slightly less than half of the voting US population? You choose
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>>59280377
>>>/qa/
>>>/lgbt/
all i was doing was posting a build friend
/g/ is not your safe space
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>>59275392
Man, I am fucking lost when it comes to Ryzen vs i7 7700k. I've heard that streaming is better with Ryzen, then I heard it doesn't matter. I heard gaming is better with an i7, then I heard Ryzen is smoother. Also I heard Ryzen is good at over 1080p gaming

Where is a trustworthy source on this stuff???
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When the fuck does the 1080ti actually launch?

There aren't any reviews or benchmarks yet and I can't find a single local place offering preorders.
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>>59280586
I thought this week?
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Do you think by the time the RX490 is launched Ryzen will be fixed ?
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>>59280586
JUST WAIT (tm)
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>>59276162
Who are they? The law won't do much, but all the virus she'll download will ruin her pc
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Should I buy a 1070 now or wait? I'm only getting 30 fps on <ultra in Witcher 3 and this upsets me. Upgrading to a 1070 would most likely mean I'd have to upgrade my chassi. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mjr8m8
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What's a good alternative for the Noctua NH-D15? Sadly won't fit in my case.
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I have a celeron g1610t lying around and was wondering if it's still worth building a small storage server with it? I've seen motherboards on eBay for ~£50 but they're used. Any experiences with used motherboards?
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I want to build a dual xeon (or opteron i don't really care. But my countrys used market for that kinda stuff is literally nonexistent AFAIKand new shit is expensive af so anyone got any place within the EU where i could buy a used/old dual socket mobo and a pair of cpus for it?
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>>59276749
Get a cheaper mobo and put that saved $20 to get a 470.
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RX 580 WHEN ?
I DON'T WANT TO GET 480 ONLY TO GET DISAPPOINTED IF 580 DOESN'T END UP BEING A REBRAND
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>>59280586
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-pre-order/

tldr; this week as the article was posted on the second.
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>>59281083
prices are coming down this week on the 10 series cards. perhaps a 1080 will be in your budget
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>>59281293
BeQueit! Dark Rock (Pro), NH-D14, Phanteks PH whatever, Cryorig R1 or AIO if space is really such an issue.
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>>59281293
Get the NH-D15S. Only one fan.
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hey /pcbg/, i want to start building a computer mainly for video editing but i'm on a pretty tight budget (would like to stay under/near 1k€ monitor included).

this is what i have in mind, where did i fuck up https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/GDZy9W
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I just saw a video about the ASRock DeskMini 110 on youtube, and that thing is so kawaii, I decided to order one. Gonna put in a Celeron G3900 + 2x4GB DDR4 RAM and a Plextor M8PeG 128GB NVME SSD that I have laying around. Should be a really nice and cute machine for internet + movies.
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>>59275392
Is the Seidon 120v better than the ph-TC12x?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kgKQgL
>pls respond
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>>59285470
10/10 looks totally fine for me
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>>59280225
Did you configure it to require a floppy to boot up?
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>>59285470
>$2000 computer
>PSU with 80+ bronze rating
I mean, Seasonic doesn't make any bad PSUs that I'm aware of so it's not like that's a bad choice, but surely with a budget like that you could spend the extra 20 or 30 bucks to get a high-quality 80+ gold PSU instead.
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>>59285600
those ratings mean a few percent in energy effeciency and have nothing to do with the quality of the parts
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>>59285742
It's 1% of what you're spending in exchange for less heat in the case and longer lifetime for the PSU. Like I said, the seasonic PSU you have right now is no doubt good, but there doesn't seem to be any reason NOT to get a higher efficiency unit with a budget like that.
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So i finally started building my pc. What is a good 1080p monitor under 200 bucks? Im looking to get good 1080p gameplay. Any help is appreciated.
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>>59286700
Your tv
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>>59276840
Now is a good time to buy the i5, microcenter has it for 199. Pricematch to a local store and you got yourself a decent deal
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>>59286735
Appreciated.
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>>59280309
Why is that?
>>59280317
I haven't heard of this, would you mind posting a source?
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How much headroom will the 1080ti have @ 4k60Hz? Its a painful amount of money, and it makes even less sense if its going to immediately fall behind in 4k with the next round of new games.
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Here is what I want to build. Could I game at 1440p60 and also stream to twitch at 1080p60 with this? Should I go Ryzen?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xX9z9W

Some of the parts might seem weird. I've been buying things over the last 6 months. Only CPU GPU Mobo and cooler remain.
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>>59286700
I have this display and loving it it's 1080p and 144hz. What card do you plan on getting?https://www.amazon.com/Acer-GN246HL-Bbid-24-Inch-Display/dp/B00KO4518I
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>>59287339
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xX9z9W
Wait till the 1080 ti releases and the regular 1080 will go down in price to $500 also don't buy the EVGA 1080 its a literal house fire.
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Would it be stupid to pair a i7-7700k with a z170 board?
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>>59287433
you might need to update the bios before you can use it, and depending on the board, you may need a skylake cpu inside there to do that
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>>59287411
Ah thanks. I meant to add that I'm not getting the 1080 Hybrid but a TI. Just put that as a placeholder.

I didn't realize evga cards were that bad. I'll have to read up on it.
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>>59287339
If you want to do streaming, the extra cores on ryzen 1700 will definitely come handy, yes.
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>>59287449
If the bios is already updated is there any huge disadvantages using a z170 board instead of a z270?
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>freesync 2 screens when?

To be fair the upcoming LG32UD99 might qualify but I doubt. All I demand is a 4k HDR freesync screen to go with my upcoming all AMD build. I've got zen on order and vega is the next big unknown but damnit 4K here I come by any means neccessary.
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>>59287461
Its just the old EVGA 1070 and 1080 that used the ACX cooling the new ICX ones are fine.
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>>59287382
Msi 1070. Was gunna go evga till i found all the crap it has been going through. I know 1070 is overkill for 1080p, but i do eventually want a 1440p monitor, so i figure its worth it.
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>>59287571
Ya the screen I linked would be prefect. The old EVGA 1070s are shitty, I have the newer one with icx cooling and I'm loving it. Tax money well spent.
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>>59285567
no but thats a great idea
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What is a good monitor for the 1080ti? My budget is about $600 and I've been looking at a refurbished Predator XB271HU or the XF270HUA. Is Gsync that big of a difference? Without it I save 100 bucks and I get a brand new monitor too.
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FUCK Amazon, got my motherboard from Micro Center instead
CPU should get here tomorrow
hopefully this goes smoothly, I really don't want to be dicking around trying to figure out how to get my Windows install to work with the new hardware
no idea what the tolerance is on 10, but I guess we'll find out
cowboy IT is a thrill
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Does Ryzen run PCSX2 / Dolphin / Citra games well? It certainly seems like you're better off buying an i7 for emulation because they use so few cores.

I'm on a budget build with an FX-6300 and I'm wondering if it isn't better to just buy a custom fan and overclock my CPU for better performance than it is to buy a new am4 MOBO.
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>>59288129
pretty much any recent CPU will blow Bulldozer the fuck out, including Ryzen
it'll be a major improvement regardless, whether or not you want to upgrade mainly comes down to price/performance
if you're set on AMD and you can live with the 6300 for a while longer I'd hold out for the R5s
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>>59288129

To get the sort of performance out of the 6300 you'd need you'd be clockingi t so high you'd probably need to spend more than its worth to cool the fucking thing.
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>>59287806
Please use it. Im going modern white and glass but i considered a retro build and was going to buy a floppy disk just for that
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>>59275392
How often do you update/upgrade

CPU/Mobo

RAM

GPU

PSU

Monitor
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FUUUUUCK I waited a week for my ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Pro to get here and just found out as I went to put the heat sink on my 1800X that my Cooler Master MasterLiquid Pro 280 is not AM4 compatible.

http://www.coolermaster.com/we-are-ready-for-your-am4-socket/
http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-liquid-cooler/masterliquid-pro-280/
http://www.cmstore-usa.com/amd-am4-upgrade-kit-rr-accy-am4b-r1/

Ready my ass. The AM4 upgrade kit for the MasterLiquid Pro series is not even available to order yet. I am so incredibly pissed. This was supposed to be the best day of my life. I waited so long for my last parts come in to finally have an awesome PC. Well back to waiting for the upgrade kit to come out I guess.
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>>59288745
>CPU/Mobo/GPU
When you feel like it and/or doesn't keep up with demand
>RAM
When it's obsolete because you changed mobo or you need more and don't have the space
>PSU
When it doesn't keep up with demand or shits the bed
>Monitor
When you feel like it
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>>59288862
Just use the provided cpu cooler while you wait
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>>59279352
Youre really dumb. A cheap hdd is like $50 you cheap faggot
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>>59279499
Whats a mobile pc? Why dont you just buy a laptop you cheap faggot
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>>59287618
So the evga 1070s are fixed? Or do i have to look for a specific model?
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>>59288927
The superclocked 2 and ftw 2 are the non house fore versions but they cost quite a bit more. The have the imprived ICX cooling and have like 9 thermal sensors.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4TFND8

thoughts? I need a mobo with optical out which not all cheaper options have
>>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CcRPcc
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Is ncix a reputable place to buy from?
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>>59289082
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4TFND8
Avoid that EVGA 1070 get a different brand those are housefires. Only the newer are fixed but they cost a bit more.
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>>59288951
What would be a cheaper alternative, that still gets the same performance?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6mTD8

I want a NAS. I am from Deutsches Reich. Is this overkill? More than half of the cost is storage, and I was trying to pick up the cheapest parts (motherboard with Raid).
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>>59288889
Doesn't come with one.
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>>59288903
>>59288919
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>>59289586
The processor is probably overkill for what it actually is going to need to do but what can you really do when you need a motherboard with RAID? That's pretty much as cheap as it gets.

Considering pre-built NAS units are like $700 in the States I'd say this is a pretty good deal. The only thing they have over a homebuilt NAS is cases specifically designed for hotswapping drives.
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>>59289948
Tripfag alert
>>
How good is the Ryzen 1700 stock cooler?
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Just finished the Installation of my flatmate's new pc.
I got him:
G4560 (Stock cooler)
Z170 msi mobo with kabylake flash
16gb 2400 Vengenance RAM
120gb SSD SanDisk
RX 480 8GB Sapphire non Nitro+ (was very cheap Deal)
Corsair 200R
And a Hamburg 530 Thermaltake PSU

Could i have done better for an allround PC on "Budget"?
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>>59290525
Why the z170?
>>
>>59290330
I've heard it's as good as the hyper 212. It's not absolute shit like Intel is a better comparison though.
>>
Quick, I need a gpu in the next week and a half. I'm using a 290 now but just upgraded to a 1440 monitor that does 144hz. Do I go in for a buy, or keep waiting for Vega?

My only real condition is that I get a good amount of increased performance for the money.
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>>59290525
Could have done an h270, and a 1tb HDD for more storage.
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>>59290586
Get a 1070, or 1080 if you have the money.
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>>59290548
Price and availability of mobos that fit the requirements
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>>59290594
We plan to buy a hdd in the next month
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>>59290730
Not the guy you responded to but I actually don't mind your decision to go with a Z board. It costs a little extra now but in a year or so if he wants to extend the life of his PC picking up a 6700k on the secondary market it will be a nice option.
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>>59290862
But now I have Problems with it.
I had troubles to install win7, so i took it over to my older fx machine and installed win7 and all Drivers on the SSD.
Now it wont Boot win7 64bit. It goes to the Windows load screen and crashes.
I heard about some issues regarding kabylake and win7, but not that it doesnt work at all...
I know, not your tech Support. But it happened while finishing the build.
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>>59280200
As for me, NF-F12 hasn't enought static pressure too, but I had overclocked my 6700K.
Set a double fan and added mx4, now it takes 60-70C in burn, also NB overheated, still think it's not normal.
> pic related
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>>59291220
Just get Windows 10 off Microsoft's website.
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>>59291220
Kaby lake doesnt support win 7
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>>59291500
I've read some are running win7.
How come they can and I dont?

>>59291399
Guess i will do so.
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>>59291673
They updated the mobo/bios. Don't ask me how to do it I have no idea.
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>>59279070
It's probably an attempt to recoup the development costs of Vega
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Rate please : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YK6tsJ

Anything wrong I should change? Any suggestions?

I heard Nvidia GPU were better than the RX 480 but they're also more expensive. With that said there's still a possibility for me to push the budget and get one instead, but I'm not sure, I feel like the RX should do me well enough for the next couple years.
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>>59291844
>I feel like the RX should do me well enough for the next couple years.

It will, but many of the nividia's 1000 series are dropping in price with announcements of the 1080ti/vega. If you're willing to wait just a week longer, I recommend keeping an eye on the 1000 series.

The 1080 has already begun dropping to around 500 dollars, and the 1070 is going under 400.
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zBs4jc

Hope this cooler cuts it. Couldn't be fucked installing a water cooler.
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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hzMW6X

Thinking of this for my next build. Don't need storage or a power supply. Gonna throw an AIB 1080ti in as well. Thoughts or changes?
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>make build on pcpartpicker
>$869.73

>make same build on French website
>€985.20

>"985 Euro equals 1041.23 US Dollar"

Why is this allowed?
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I know it has been asked a million times but:

Gsync worth it or not and for that matter is a 4k monitor even worth it if even 1080s are struggling to keep 60fps on some games.

Or should I just find a 1440p monitor and be happy?
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>>59293062

US doesn't include tax in the price
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>>59293474
I should mention I don't play competitive shooters, or if I do I play them for fun rather than to climb ranks. Most of what I play is RPGs and casual shooters. But I do love to see the color 'pop' in games.
>>
Can anyone explain PCIE lanes to me?

If I get a motherboard with only 12 PCIE lanes, will it work fine with a 16x graphics card and a 4x m.2 ssd?
>>
SSD are quite expensive. Is it OK to get a SSHD instead?
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Can someone tell me whether I should get an RX 480 or a GTX 1060?

I'm gaming on a 1080p monitor, 60Hz
8GB of RAM, i5-6600 3.30Ghz

I can afford either a 1060 (3GB or 6GB) or an RX 480, either a 4GB or 8GB.

All I can find when I google is redditor opinions and I want intelligent opinions so here I am.

Someone please help?
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I've had this for 3 yrs Just replaced the H100 with an air cooler.
Should I even bother upgrading everything
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>>59293565
You shouldn't even be considering the 1060 3gb desu
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>>59293509
>Why is this allowed?
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>>59293577
30 hz monitor?
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>>59293580
I assume that's because it's not a good idea to have a card below 4GB VRAM? I'm fine with that, but I've read that gaming at 1080p would see very little difference on an 8GB VRAM card.
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Alright /g/ I need your advice and please tell me if I'm a total retard or not. I ordered parts to construct a new rig, but I was piss drunk and I dunno if everything jives. So let me know if this rig will be any good for the next few years.

mobo - MSI Computer ATX DDR4 Motherboard B150 GAMING M3 MSI
graphics - NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1070 GRAPHICS CARD 8GB 1070 8GB
cpu - Intel Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz BX80662I76700K Processor
ram - PNY 8GB RAM a piece (old hardware didn't see the need for more ram)
psu - 550 Watt (old hardware as well)
tower - Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Computer ATX Case Gaming Window Storage
OS - win 10

So, what do you all think? will this be a good rig? Do I need a better PSU? only thing I could really think of as lacking.

I've never really gamed at 60fps, which is what I'm aiming for here, but I couldn't bring myself to drop ~$550 on a 1080.

How'll this do me?
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>>59293624
4k TV currently as a monitor, 1080 is at 60hz
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>>59293683
Enjoy being spied on by CIA
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>>59293633
Right. 4gb is currently the unspoken "minimum" you should consider for a new card for gaming. As for the vram, it really depends on the settings that you're trying to play on and what textures you want to load (e.g. Nightmare settings in Doom) but usually you only play the game like that if you want to take screenshots anyways
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MQYY8K

Any last comments before I buy everything?
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>>59293683
I should have known. Nice PC, I have the same cpu. What speed are you running at on air?
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>>59293561
SSDs are a luxury item. You can use a HDD just fine and not worry about it. I have no experience in SSHD but I assume it falls under the same category.

If you can't/dont want to blow money on a SSD then dont. Once you go SSD you dont go back
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>>59293669
What kind of ram is it?
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>>59293711
Can you redpill me on Nvidia vs. AMD? I have an AMD card now but the drivers for it lately have been not so good. I'd really like an Nvidia card but their prices are a lot higher and I'd like to save money.
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>>59293715
Not enough LEDs, it wont run that fast.

On a serious note it looks fine to me
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>>59293764
I'm sort of annoyed at how expensive my build is getting and the SSD isn't helping at all. 128GB SDD just seems too small to me, 256 seems like the best compromise, but they cost at least €100.

But like you're saying, I wonder if I really need one. I think my only worry is having lag problems in games like BF1 or whatever I may happen to play if I don't have a SDD. Other than that I don't mind my computer being "slow". Hell I've had a fridge as a computer for so many years now I'm pretty sure my new build will be fast enough on a HDD to make me happy anyway.
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>>59293768

according to speccy:

8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 668MHz (9-9-9-24)

but, that being said - think I should go with a new PSU as well? this is the most expensive graphics card Ive bought to date, and I kind of want to know if I'll be needing a new PSU to make it not die on me. Also, what kind of PSU and whatnot. Any reccomendations?

Also, should I update the RAM? since you asked about it
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>>59293781
Not him but I'd just look at performance graphs of games you are interested in or from genres you like to play.
Make a choice based around that. If all you play is LoL or something light then no need to spend 400/500$ on an Nvidia card
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xvQW6X
R8
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>>59293835
I play Battlefield 1, Elder Scrolls Online (which has FPS issues regardless so I don't even know why I'm listing it) I'm going to be playing the new Mass Effect, stuff like that.
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>>59293669
I'm sorry to say this man but B150 is like piss poor mobo and as far as I know it won't handle the i7 Kaby Lake. Unless

B150 & H170 & Z170 = Skylake
B250 & H270 & Z270 = Kaby Lake

I think.
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>>59293821
128 will be fine as long as you mind what you put on it.
Throw your OS on it and whatever game or 2 of the month you are playing. I haven't played BF1 but I don't think a SSD will help (unless load times are crazy). Someone can correct me if I am wrong here.
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>>59293715
Get xfx instead of Asus for the RX 480.
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>>59293726
stock 4.2GHz i havent bothered to OC it yet
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>>59293881
I read about graphical stuff getting loaded on the stop in newer games and that's why SSD were a must?

I'm not really a gaymer anymore so I'm not that knowledgeable.
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>>59293894
reviewers say the xfx gtr is loud
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>>59293875
You will probably want to go Nvidia then unless you want to wait for the 500 series AMD chips.

Mass effect will be pretty GPU heavy so depending on what settings/resoultion you want to play at you will need a hefty card like the 1070/1080.
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>>59293822
PSU should be fine for now as long as it isn't over 5 years old and was running under 50% load for most of its life. And yeah buy DDR4 ram
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>>59293879

Damn, is this true? I mean the mobo only cost 128 so I can say fuck it and buy a new one but it puts me out a hundred some-odd dollars... but I absolutely will get a better mobo if it will brick the CPU, which I care much more about. Can anyone else confirm? I mean I trust this anon but sucks seeing 128 go down the drain like that. Yeah, its a skylake btw. i7 6700k etc etc.
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>>59293916
I haven't personally heard that so I can't comment on that.
But like I said just get a 128GB one and swap games onto it as you play them.

When I got my first 128GB SSD I just had my OS and whatever game I was heavy into at that time. I ran BF4 off my normal HDD and it was perfectly fine. Maybe I didn't load into the game as fast as if it was on a SSD but once I was in I couldn't tell if I was having any loading issues.
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>>59293991
>I mean I trust this anon
I said "I think" so you shouldn't. Wait for others and look into it.
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>>59293975

Ok I'll order that new RAM stat, dunno much about it which is why I'm asking you guys, you guys have been a great help btw I'm just a drunk idiot with enough computer experience to build a rig and a decent paycheck. Whats the difference with DDR3 v 4? I mean I have no probs buying the new RAM but I'm kinda curious.

Also my PSU is old as fuck. Looks like its time to get another.
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>>59293991
Ok I looked into it and I'm dumb the i7-6700k is Skylake so it should work.

Just you won't be able to overlock, the b150 can't do that.
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>>59294013

ok, that issue's on standby. Looks like I need at least a new PSU and new RAM according to anons.

>>59294053

ok sweet yeah I figured as much I read a little about it and saw I wouldn't be able to overclock but with the ridiculously expensive rig I'm building anyway it wouldn't really matter to me, I just want to experience 60fps for once in my life lol...
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>>59293999
>and swap games onto it as you play them.
Wouldn't I need to uninstall and reinstall files though? Or do you mean I can literally just copy paste games from my SSD and HDD like that. Aren't folders linked to registry entries?

Either way you're right in that 128GB should be enough if it's just for games. I'm not even forced to put all games on it, I suppose multiplayer ones should but anything solo is good enough on the HDD.
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>>59293975

ok so I'm looking at

Quiet 750 Watt 750W for Intel AMD PC ATX Power Supply Unit SATA PCI-E 6 Pin

for my new PSU, any recommendations for RAM? price really isnt too much of an issue desu.

I'm not rich or anything I just have no life therefore spend little to no money.
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>>59293991
B150 is simply referring to the "features" your motherboard will have, Skylake and Kaby Lake both use LGA 1151 socket so the parts are compatible. You may want to consider buying a non-K cpu btw since you can't overclock on B150
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looking for a new hdd. what's good? i can wait for sales too.
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>>59294121
Yeah uninstall/reinstall. Its a pain but if you stick to games like I do, for months at a time, then its not a huge issue.

The only games I really put on there are games with huge load times like a heavily modded Skyrim.

I'd recommend putting your OS on there for sure to make boot times crazy fast.
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>>59294143
Consider a modular PSU from either corsair or evga, they are top tier quality and the cable management will be a lot easier. As for RAM you can't really go wrong with any particular brand Hyper and G.skill I've had good experience's with
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>>59294161

is overclocking really worth it?

I mean I would do it and its still an option I'll explore if I decide to get a new mobo in the future, I just really don't know what the advantages are to it. Seems to put a lot of strain on the PC as far as temperature from what I've heard.

Also, what about the PSU and RAM?

I'm looking at

Quiet 750 Watt 750W for Intel AMD PC ATX Power Supply Unit SATA PCI-E 6 Pin

right now for a PSU but it says AMD so will it work with my nvidia card? I know, retarded question answer is probably yes but I gotta ask.

Also for RAM how about a couple of these


G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2800 (PC4 22400) Intel Z170

? thx guys
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>>59294260
Yeah that's what I had planned to do. Cheers.

>>59294274
I got told to get a "EVGA PSU" for myself as they were among the best. Make sure to get at least Bronze or Gold certification.

PSU work for everything regardless of brands.
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Fortron PSU yes or no?
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>>59294309

ok cool, will look into EVGA.

Also, pcpartpicker is telling me my CPU doesnt come with a "stock cooler", what does this mean? I know I gotta keep that shit cooled but what does this entail in terms of hardware?
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>>59294274
Make sure its modular so you don't have to deal with 100% of the cables it comes with if you only need 50%
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>>59294274
>is overclocking really worth it?
Not really, it's more like a hobby for enthusiasts. PC technicians and benchmarkers like to push their hardware for comparing to others, it's pointless for gaming really.
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>>59294368
It doesn't come with a cooler and your CPU will fry without one. The used to come with base coolers that would work OK but just OK.

For cheap coolers look at Hyper 212. Water cooling with closed systems are good if you plan on overclocking.
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>>59294382

ok so updates, Im still drunk and retarded and you guys are guiding me so I opted for

EVGA SuperNOVA 650W G1 80Plus Gold Power Supply Unit (120-G1-0650-XR)

as my PSU...

now looking into DDR4 RAM and shit its kind of expensive, but hell with it. cheaper option is

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2800 (PC4 22400) Intel Z170

what do you think? also will be updating with what I find for a CPU cooler. Thanks again guys.
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>>59293938
The recommended specs for it, (which are usually always blown a bit out of proportion) it only recommends a 1060 or an 480, so I think a 1070 or a 1080 would be a bit over kill.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a 1070 but I can't afford a new monitor and I'm told that gaming at 1080p with a 1070 and 8GB of VRAM is overkill.

Can you give me an opinion on that?

Plus I think my CPU (Skylake i5-6600 3.30 Ghz) would bottleneck a 1070 anyway. Would it?
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>>59294460
RAM often gets pushed up in price based around looks and buzz words like "SNIPER RAM GAMER EDITION". Don't listen to that shit. Just get some RAM that is cheap in price, comes from a good brand, and is acceptable to you in the looks department.

With that being said the RAM you linked is OK.

The thing with CPU coolers is to make sure your case can fit them. Some, Hyper 212 included, are huge. As for watercooling just make sure your case has slots for whatever size radiator you want (120mm, 240, etc)
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>>59294412

took you up on that advice and came up with

Cooler Master Hyper 212X RR-212X-20PM-R14th Gen. Bearing CPU Cooler w/120mm Fan

which looks pretty badass desu. wondering if it will fit nicely.

That aside, I still need to address the RAM, which another anon advised should be DDR4.

so, revised update


mobo - MSI Computer ATX DDR4 Motherboard B150 GAMING M3 MSI
graphics - NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1070 GRAPHICS CARD 8GB 1070 8GB
cpu - Intel Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz BX80662I76700K Processor
ram - ??? Undecided, need DDR4?
psu - EVGA SuperNOVA 650W G1 80Plus Gold Power Supply Unit (120-G1-0650-XR)
tower - Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Computer ATX Case Gaming Window Storage
OS - win 10
CPU cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212X RR-212X-20PM-R14th Gen. Bearing CPU Cooler w/120mm Fan (will this fit in my mid ATX case)?

so far so good senpai.
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>>59294482
Not the guy you're replying to but, in my opinion either the RX 480( or 580) 8gb or 1060 6gb are both good choices. BTW that cpu will not bottleneck
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>>59294580
>ram - ??? Undecided, need DDR4?
You need to look into the B150 and see what it can handle.

For DDR4 it's either 2133hz, 2400hz, 2666hz(?) and more.
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>>59294482
It is overkill as it will run most anything on 1080. However you are in the same boat as me. I can't drop 700-1000+$ on a 4k monitor.

You can look for 1440p monitors if that helps.

As for a 1060 being reccomended I don't know what that means. If it means it will run at 60fps, 1080p, on medium or what.
On the plus side the prices are dropping for 1070s and 1080s since the 1080TI was just released.

For some reason I feel as if a 1060 wont get you very far in that game but I haven't played any so who knows.
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>>59291844
If you do really intend on buying this build, the i5-7600k is on sale for 199 right now. Just picked mine up, and got an extra 10% off.
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>>59294543

ok cool, so on the note of that ram, should I get two of those 8gb fuckers?

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2800 (PC4 22400) Intel Z170

is what I was looking at maybe 2 of, bringing up the fact that it needs to work with my mobo is good though, thanks. as far as I can tell its Z170, which desu I have no idea if that jives with my mobo.. any advice?
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>>59294616
I'm the guy from Europe.

I'm still envisaging the i5-7600k + z270 mobo combo if I can have them on sale or something but otherwise I plan on sticking with the non-K 7600 because overall it's cheaper (less expensive mobo and no ventirad to buy) and I don't plan on overclocking anyway.
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>>59294597
Can you speak to the quality of AMD over Nvidia, or vice versa? I've heard bad things about AMD and honestly I'd love to go back to an Nvidia card if I could. Would you really say they're both good choices, or is there anything you could say about the 1060 that would put it over the 480?
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>>59294606
The 1060 is still considered a "mid-range" card and is able to handle 1080p ultra at playable framerates.
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>>59294695
Let me put it to you another way.

I'm on an R9 380X right now. Will I get any better performance on high/ultra settings if I upgrade to a 1060 6GB?
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Should the wattage breakdown be 100% trusted?

Let's say it says my build don't even reach 400W, am I fine buying a 500W PSU or should I aim higher?
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>>59292041

Bump
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>>59294682
I've owned cards from both companies, I'm currently using an RX480 (runs kind of hot desu) but it does what I want which is play at ultra settings at 1080p. Nvidia will always have a place in my heart though, I just wish the market didn't place such a high value on their cards. I was exclusively a nvidia user in my teen years
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>>59294745
The 1060 6gb is measured to be about 40% more powerful than the R9 380x according to benchmarks
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>>59294761
It's been recommended to me that PSU should only run at 50% (it can run higher ofc)
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>>59294543

ok so pcpartpicker says so far so good, no issues with my case vs the CPU cooler, the last piece of it is the RAM, which I'm looking at the one I've been linking... just gotta make sure its works with my mobo.

>>59294650

will this ram work with my mobo??? pcpartpicker says no prob but I don't know if I have the exact right one on there
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>>59294916
From what I'm reading it sounds like some sort of myth.
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What type of gaming can I expect from an i5-6600k,1070 16gb build/ 1080p 144hz, or maybe 1440p @60hz?
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>>59295010
Yeah man, I'm not too sure.
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>>59294964
Don't worry man its compatible.
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>>59295064
Can you rephrase the question? That cpu + gpu would fall into the "Mid-High range" for gaming pc's
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>>59294847
I can get a 6GB Gigabyte 1060 from Jet.com for $243 including tax, and I'm this close to pulling the trigger on it.

Anyone have any experience ordering from Jet?
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ok guys, thanks to all of you who helped, I got this as a result


mobo - MSI Computer ATX DDR4 Motherboard B150 GAMING M3 MSI
graphics - NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1070 GRAPHICS CARD 8GB 1070 8GB
cpu - Intel Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz BX80662I76700K Processor
ram - G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2800 (PC4 22400) Intel Z170 ( two of em)
psu - EVGA SuperNOVA 650W G1 80Plus Gold Power Supply Unit (120-G1-0650-XR)
tower - Corsair Carbide Series SPEC-01 Mid Tower Computer ATX Case Gaming Window Storage
OS - win 10
CPU cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212X RR-212X-20PM-R14th Gen. Bearing CPU Cooler w/120mm Fan

>>59295099

Its a 1.5grand rig and I'm hoping for the best here. Thanks to all of you who helped me construct it. You guys are tha real MVPs. Any other advice on it? Anything I could be missing?
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>>59295156
You can save money by buying a non-k processor and using the stock cooler instead of the hyper212
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How long will a Kaby Lake i5 CPU last me? Especially considering most games are more GPU intensive than CPU intensive nowadays.
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Is thermal paste needed if I don't OC?
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>>59295341
Thermal paste is required regardless if you're overclocking or not. The stock cooler should come with some preapplied though so there's no need to buy separately (usually)
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>>59295393
Oh okay that clears it up.
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>>59295333
A long time, there are people still using Ivy Bridge i5s for gaming
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Difference between ATX and miniATX are the slots available right?

Even if the graphic card is really big I can still plug it to a miniATX mobo?
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