/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

Mechanical keyboards seem like a meme, they feel the same as membrane keyboards but appeal to an autistic niche.

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>>58964419
You can do better bait the that. I even gave you the perfect opportunity by posting an HHKB.
1/10 see me when this thread 404s

Idk what switch to get

>>58964518
get zealios or mod switches if you want to pretend like you're going to spend less

>>58964518
the most expensive one obviously. Haven't you heard the higher the price the better it is

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>>58964710
this obv

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I am falling for both the premium abs meme and the pre yellowed keys meme and none of you can stop me.

>>58964956
I really can't.

>>58964960
At least I can resell them for a small profit if they look awful in person.

>>58964986
It would be a very small profit. Carbon barely sold 1000 units and people are reselling them for like 130-150 bucks. Plum looks like its going to surpass that so I'd expect alt east a year before you can make a descent amount of money back, plus there have been times before when the chinks bought like 500 sets and the kept them just to resell them on taobao.

>>58964956
Shitty colour scheme tbqh

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>>58964518
What do you do?

>>58964518
Make a custom buckling spring over Topre board.

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>>58964956
I think it looks better without the red, personally.

>>58965052
I like it.
>>58965277
You might be right. I might just use the red escape as an accent. But I think the 3 colors compliment each other nicely.

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Scored this old stock bigfoot
Did I do good?

>>58965453
I guess so. They usually sell on ebay for $40 or you can get them from electronic recyclers for like $20

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just got my first mechanical keyboard
WASD CODE mx green

heard the keycaps suck though
what keycaps should I replace them with?

>>58965649
some cheap $30 Tai-Hao set

>>58965649
Vortex double shot pbt.

>Budget
$40 or less ( cheap fuck )

>Location (continent at least)
United States

>Preferred switch type
Blues / super clicky

>Layout
No preference

>Form factor
60%

>Backlight
No preference

>>58966040
magicforce is $40 on amazon
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/167-2938000-3163850?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=magicforce

>Budget
$150-200
>Location (continent at least)
Tejas
>Preferred switch type
I'm leaning towards Clears but having not tried any so I'm not super confident in that choice - see Current Keyboard response
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Could do 100 or 80% w/ arrows but leaning towards the latter. The numpad is nice but I don't use it often enough to miss it.
>Backlight
nyet
>Previous/current keyboards
SK-8115. I'm wondering how this compares to mechanical switch types - it feels like there's actuation, so is rubber dome more like tactile than linear? Also with weight - a quick search tells me that rubber domes tend to feel heavier, so would I feel more at home with Clears than Browns?
I think I'd prefer something that's similar to or maybe a little heavier than my current keyboard and with greater tactile response.

>>58966100
Should also note that I don't want clicky switches.

>budget
under $100
>Location
United Sates
>Switch
Browns, maybe clears
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
doesnt matter, just needs dedicated volume buttons, no fn shit
>Backlight
doesnt matter, only if the keyboard stays within budget and still has dedicated volume buttons
>Previous/Current
currently using an old emachines rubber dome keyboard, had a logitech g510, had a razer blackwidow but 4 of the chink shit switches chattered like crazy from day 1

I'm thinking either Ducky Zero ($79) or Logitech Orion G610 ($86 on sale right now). leaning more towards the orion cuz it's on sale and has my beloved volume wheel but i'm not yet sure if logitech's mechanical keyboards are any good

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The Anne pro is pretty cute.

>>58966274
Ur cute

>>58966100
>>58966159
then clears would be the perfect switch for you. There are heavier switches like tactile greys, but those are only found on a limited selection of keyboards. I'd say go for a WASD TKL with clears

>>58966294
y-you too

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Who else put their name down for one of these bad boys?
Managed to get into the second round of stock for Cherry Blues / Black case.

Would have put in a pre-order on mechanicalkeyboards, but their intl. shipping and warranty are horrible. Got it cheaper, and shipped intl. on Massdrop.

I was in the last thread...

All keys on my Model M seem to be working, but the Scroll Lock LED doesn't light up...

Is this common? Is it a LED issue?

First Model M user here.

>>58966170
neither get a Ducky One since that comes with Ducky macros V2 which allows you set media keys without having to use FN. By default there are dedicated volume keys above the number pad, plus the build quality is a massive step up above logitech. If you can get the G610 for under 70 bucks then go for it

>>58966387
First of all is the LED broken?

>>58966376
I live in the US so I just pre ordered it off mechanicalkeyboards, do you think they'll ship on time? I'm worried I'm going to be waiting months for it to arrive even though it says it's supposed to come in stock this month.

>>58966447
They should do.
If Massdrop could double down on their stock literally within hours of selling out, mechanicalkeyboards should get their reserved stock and more.

>>58966411
is the ducky zero a downgrade in quality from the one?

>>58966387
Are you in a program that actually uses scroll lock? The scroll lock key on my Leopold does not turn on if I press it while on the desktop.

>>58966509
Its a cheaper version with an uglier case, less features and lower build quality. There is nothing wrong with it, but now that I looked I realized that they raised their prices. It used to be under 100, but only the older stock is still at that price, all of the newer ones are more expnsive, except for the game boy color looking ones, those are still at $99

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Somebody did a run of gmk Cherry keys.
No red on white key.
$35 shipped.
I want some cherry logo keys but fuck that is expensive for what you get.

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>finally get my first cherry red keyboard
>the space bar is feather light

>>58966951
stick a black in it

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let's split! what do you guys think?

>>58967042
nice ortholinear

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-104-White-PBT-Doubleshot-Translucent-Backlit-Cherry-MX-Keycap-Keyset-/272502055877?hash=item3f726363c5:g:NK4AAOSw~oFXHlFH

Can someone confirm that these are most definitely the same PBT backlit keycaps Vortex sells on their site?

I created an account on their main site, and you can choose quantity, but there's no "add to cart" button...

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Looking to sell my pok3r with browns. It will come with the Royal Navy key caps, Gateron Blank PBTs and Tai Hao Beige Alert. Pic realted, it's the keyboard with the Tai Hao's on. Oh and it's also got O-rings.

>>58967673
price?

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>>58967718
At the moment I will sell the pok3r with the Tai Hao's for £80. +£20 if you want it to come with the Gateron Blanks. +£15 if you want the coiled cable. +£60 if you want the Royal Navies.

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>>58967761
Oh and it'll come with a wire key cap puller and normal cable.

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>>58967765
>tfw I'm a burger
well shit, maybe you can find another euro to sell it to

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>>58967787
Bugger! Stay strong. Only 4 years then you are free again.

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>>58964181
I just want a HHKB clone with gateron mx browns.

>>58967807
Just re-solder m8 it's not that hard

>>58967807
>MX HHKB

>>58967813
Is it possible on a topre board?

>>58967832
pls do not bully me ty

>>58967919
Well obviously you're going to need a HHKB clone board. Of which there are plenty.

HHKB arrived today. Holy shit it's small. Anyways this feels really nice, almost like a piano key.

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>>58967802
Oi! Piss off Britbong. I swear on me mum ill come over there and kick your ass to Birmingham you soft cunt.

Anyone tried out the Ducky Shine 6? $160 seems pretty steep

>>58968249
Nah sod off you Willy wonka before I smack you in your boat race!

>>58967807
>>58967813
>>58967832
>>58967919
>>58967954
I decided to just go for a Leopold FC660M. Close enough, thank you everyone.

I've never seen so many Brobots on eBay. Is the bubble for tiny pieces of plastic finally popping?

ARE BROWN SWITCHES RED SWITCHES WITH A BUMP

>>58968579
Not much of a bump. More like reds with dirt in them

>>58968625
Memes.
>>58968579
Brown's with o rings are great!

>>58968625
SO THEY'RE NO HEAVIER?
WHAT'S A SLIGHTLY HEAVIER SWITCH

>>58968502
Should have gone for the 660C.

>>58968651
Browns are heavier than reds. They just don't have much of a tactile bump. If you want heavier linear switches get blacks.

>>58968688
CAN YOU STILL DOUBLE TAP LIKE REDS?

>>58968704
Yes browns are fine for rapid taping.
Reds 40g of force
Browns 45g
Blacks are i think 60

>>58966485
I JUST CHECKED THE WEBSITE AND THEY PUSHED MY ORDER FROM FEBRUARY 1ST-MARCH 1ST TO MARCH 15TH-MARCH 31ST. I'M REFUNDING THIS SHIT.

>>58968671
I would just get another HHKB instead if I was going to do that anon.

>>58967807
You could build something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDoh2ktSGuk

>>58968810
Oh well if you put it that way you probably made the right decision.

>>58966554 >>58966427

Sorry I ended up falling asleep last night, I'll install Open Office and test the spreadsheet program.

I'm going to assume, right off the bat, that it's an LED issue, due to the fact, that when I initially boot my computer, Only the NUM AND CAPS blink.

>>58967807
Get a GH60 moron

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Finally got around to replacing the Cherry Reds on my ol' trusty keyboard with MOD-H switches.

I scratched up that mounting plate real good.

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>>58970978
Looking good anon.

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>>58971010
Are transparent MX keycaps a thing? I love the way these ones switches look.

>>58971121
yes.

>>58971121
Yeah the chinks make some for cheap

>>58971121
uh

why are some installed sideways?

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>>58971175
That's how some of them solder points were. I didn't question it.

>>58964181

Does anyone have a recommendation of a premium feeling keyboard, down to the materials too? I'd love some type of metal keyboard (not metal keys, but the base)

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I think of buying a blank keycap-set. Pic related is just inspiration.

What's /mkg/'s experience with blank keycaps? I think regular typing should be fine but i'm afraid that it will bother me to no end when i have to use certain symbols like / , { , & that i usually don't need often (i'm not a programmer).

>>58972055
Uniqey maybe.
I'm pretty sure they come with GMK keycaps.

>>58972055
Go to geekhack, I'm sure they can recommend you a $500-$1000 all metal cnc milled korean custom keyboard.

>>58972136
>PCB mount
yeah no

besides you can get old cherry keycaps for like 15-30 bucks on places like ebay, deskthority, and even craigslist if you choose to salvage them from old cherry keyboards

>>58972129
>What's /mkg/'s experience with blank keycaps?
I use them on both my home and work keyboards. It's not uncommon for me to make mistakes, especially on the top-right with y to o and 8 to =. However, I make fewer mistakes now than I did starting out with blanks last year.

I actually started out with the Ducky PBT set with unfilled, lasered legends, which look blank at a distance.

>>58972245

Thanks for your answer. I guess i'll just give it a try.

>>58966701
Yeah these were pricey, I actually signed up to be in this but I missed the invoice and didn't pay.

GMK doesn't like small orders I guess

Just got a das keyboard with the volume knob featuring blue switches for $120 new. Did I do good?

>>58972449
no. with every new das keyboard the quality decreases, but the price stays the same. The new ones have chink shit switches and cheap laser etched abs. It used to be pad printed so it's a step up I guess, but the quality is still garbage.

>>58972503
das 4 pro (what anon described) still uses real cherry, the 4c and their gamer trash subline is when they switched to chink

>>58972515
no the das 4 also uses them

>>58972538
do you want me to get the disassembled das 4 pro off my floor and take a close up photo of the cherry logo on the switches

>>58972515
>>58972560
Thank you your input >>58972503 was making me worried.

I am more just excited about how I can order keycaps and don't have to worry about fucking weird keycap sizes. I'll eventually invest into a nice set of PBT keys when something worthwhile comes around on massdrop, but i'll be coasting with the stock keys for a bit.

>>58972560
they do anon and its a fact
http://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-professional-for-mac/

>>58972589
$120 is still to much since you could have gotten cheaper keyboards with better build quality and more features and still have dedicated volume keys

>>58972626
Ok, so they use Greetech for the 4C, their Gamer Trash, and the Mac version of the 4. So as long as he got the standard edition, he still got real Cherry.

>>58972644
Well I already have a keyboard that does that however I specifically wanted a keyboard with backlighting, normal keycap sizes so I could get keycaps later on, as well as volume controls, and after doing much research this was pretty much the only product that really met my needs. Plus having a usb hub and some decent build quality is nice. If you have anything else that meets those needs, please inform me because I have yet to find anything.

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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/zealenico-silencing-clips

>>58972689
You do have options like the Ducky One that also has programmable macros and function layers that way you can set media keys to wherever you want without having to use some silly Fn combo. By default there are volume controls above the number pad. Plus the doubleshot keycaps are a huge step up in quality.

>>58972681
That's a good callout, and thank you for the clarification. The listing I purchased said it was the das keyboard 4 for mac, but the pictures show it's the box for the ultimate one. I will likely end up returning if it doesn't have the real cherry switches. Good looking out.

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>>58966274
my anne pro has a flaw, when I press the space bar form the right corner the key jumps out from the right corner :S

>>58972775
I considered that but I don't like the idea of having media keys as physical keycaps, I really want a knob or a rocker or something of that sorts.

>>58972768
Over $20 off of retail, what a deal!

>>58972832
You might have an older one. I've read earlier models had some wonky stabilizers.

How bad are cherry mx browns? Should I get a keyboard with them?

>>58972841
well they are physical keys. I moved mine to the number pad so that way if I want to select the next track I just hit right on the number pad. If I do want to use a normal number pad I just switch back to layer 1.

>>58964181
>budget
100€
>Location
Germany
>Switch
blue
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
tenkeyless or 60%
>Backlight
doesn't matter
>Previous/current keyboards
Cherry MX Board 3.0

>>58972930
Go to a store and try them out. If you like them, buy a board.

>>58965070
C U T E

>>58972944
forgot to mention: no gaymur shit

>>58972944

https://www.amazon.de/Lioncast-mechanische-Tenkeyless-deutsches-QWERTZ-Layout/dp/B00NMKU2Q2/ref=s9_simh_gw_g147_i1_r?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=N14GFQF1KQF8352KJP2R&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=7fb339d7-1d6e-42de-9c12-dadc030ae13c&pf_rd_i=desktop

https://www.amazon.de/VicTsing-Mechanische-87-Tasten-Mechanical-Schreibkr%C3%A4fte/dp/B01D64M662/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1487263217&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=victsing&psc=1

>>58972944
>>58972981

sry, it's gamer shit. didn't read your clarification.

>>58972944
kauf das magicforce68, bleibt sogar noch kohle für kappen über

>>58970975
stop recommending GH DIYs, 99% of us are barely qualified for changing keycaps.

>>58972944
Ducky One TKL is 80€

>>58973110
>99% of us are barely qualified for changing keycaps.
Now way that's true. It's literally legos

>>58973099
ISO layout? hab ich noch nirgends gesehen

I'm looking for a 1.75 length single keycap. Fucking nonstandard layouts. Any thoughts on cutting off 0.5 off each end of a standard 2.75 length shift? IS IT CRAZY ENOUGH TO WORK?

Or alternatively, what company would be kind enough to mail me a single cap and not crush me with transatlantic shipping fees?

>>58973187
chyna

>>58972768
>zealenico-silencing-clips
what price are these at the massdrop? I can't see

>>58973293
$40 for 65

>>58973141
Exactly. And when's the last time YOU played with legos? For me that was around 10 years ago, more or less the same time I was made to study the world map in geography. All I'm gonna say is I don't exactly remember the capital of Zambia anymore.

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>>58973281

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>>58964181
Bjarne realized what a hipster he was
and switched to a Microsoft wireless keyboard.
Proof, pic related.

>>58973551
HHKB does come in wireless though

>>58973551
That's funny since HHKB released a bluetooth keyboard the next month. I wonder if he switched back

>>58973615
>>58973603
The last known fact is that Bjarne uses a Microsoft keyboard.

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Is this cherry profile?

>>58974289
That looks like some chink profile

>budget
90$ max
>Location
norway
>Switch
something that doesnt make too much noice
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
tenkeyless or as long as its compact and has arrow keys.
>Backlight
doesn't matter (rgb if possible)
>Previous/current keyboards
no mechanical ones.

>>58974289
Doesn't look like it.

>>58973187
What profile senpai? Worth posting on r/mechmarket, someone is bound to have a single 1.75 from a grab bag..

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>>58974289

Corsair Vengeance K65 (the old one) for 60 euros or is the Ducky One TKL worth the 20 euros more?

Redpill me about o-rings /mkg/.

Is there a significant difference between the 1$, 5$ and 15$ packages that i can get from ebay?

>>58975038
Ducky one has a lot more features and better build quality

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>>58975442
I don't know exactly what sets you're looking at, but generally with o-rings you look for how hard/soft it is, what material its made out off, and how thick it is.

>>58975909
For example
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150pcs-Keycap-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners-RED-For-CHERRY-MX-Replace-Part-/251342922824?hash=item3a8534a448:g:hrgAAOxysJxSOpLD

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-MX-Keycap-Rubber-O-Ring-Switch-Dampeners-40A-L-Red-125pcs-/121956599146?hash=item1c652e056a:m:mU12XyFYrsPZxstEFHZ068g
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120Pcs-White-Rubber-O-Ring-Dampers-Keycap-Mechanical-keyboard-For-Cherry-MX-/291396787841?hash=item43d89a1e81:g:c6wAAOSwPYZU9Sap

have almost the same form factor and very different prices. Does the difference in the material really warrant the 10x price difference?
They are all just pieces of rubber.

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>>58966951
this is precisely the reason why i wish nature whites were more popular

>>58966951
who is this coq connoisseur?

How do I remove male cream from the gateron clone of the cherry "MX series" blue switches?

What makes a keyboard like the Filco Mejestouch 2 different from keyboard like the Ducky Shine appart from LEDS?

>>58976883
made by different company

>>58976892
lul

>>58976883
Filco is made in Japan, Ducky is made in China/Taiwan

>>58977276
Filco is made by Costar in Taiwan

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This is my first mechanical keyboard ever.

I got it about a month ago.

Pretty much loving it so far.

I also know that Linus from Linus Tech Tips uses it, so I'm in good company.

Anybody want to give their feedback on my choice of mechanical keyboard?

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>>58977912
>Anybody want to give their feedback on my choice of mechanical keyboard?
It's a piece of shit that's known for broken keycaps and dead LEDs. It's massive and looks ugly as shit, and the bottom row is non-standard as hell, so good luck finding some replacement keycaps for that thing. I just hope you didn't get brown switches along with it. Return that keyboard while you can.

on that note, welcome to /mkg/

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So what are the best keycaps in a non-shitty font for backlit keyboards on the market currently?

Recently bought a Ducky and the keycaps are pretty average, some of them block light/aren't made properly, see pic.

Trying to avoid this in buying a translucent PBT set, but there's a handful on eBay, Taobao and Aliexpress, and I don't know where to start.

I took this picture to explain the problem, it's mostly prominent on keys like Pause, PgUp, Home, PgDn, End Del and some things like @, #, $, %, & show issues, F1, F2 and F3 are fine, but F4, F6, F8, F9, F10 are not. Does anyone know what this is called? Is this just because Ducky use mass produced ABS keycaps for their stuff, is there any guarantee that this will be solved if I buy a PBT backlit set?

All keyboards mentioned apart from this one are inferior.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005ZE9SPO/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1634&creative=6738&creativeASIN=B005ZE9SPO&linkCode=as2&tag=thedaionl-21

This is undebateable.

>>58979028
Sure thing.

>>58979028
>staggered layout

No.

Hello yes does Terry Davis use a Mechanical keyboard? If so I would like to buy one of what he uses

>>58978064
Not even the anon you are replying to, but that sounds like typical /g/ tier contrian bullshit.

>>58979314
He uses a cheap Microsoft keyboard, the same one I have. It's not very good.

>>58968502
>close enough
nicca you will never find a better layout

>>58979025
>backlit
Why?

ya know how like, if you have a rubber band for a while, it gets all gross and inelastic and breaks and shit? Does the same thing happen to topres?

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Just got my first mechanical keyboard and I'm fucking loving it.

>>58980052
Correct, it does not have an unlimited lifespan.

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So I know its probably a memeboard, but I really like the Razer Ornata. I get that some wont like it because it's not a traditional keyboard or because it's almost definitely overpriced and many wont see it as being worth the cost. I however, really do like using it. The keyboard I have before this was the Red Dragon Karura which I liked, but it failed me and I have to return it. What I really like about it are the mid-height keycaps which I've grown custom to using because they feel very similar to laptop keyboards, which I've been solely using for the past 3-4 years. I also really dig how it looks and the included wrist rest too, it feels really plush and like a pillow for my wrists.

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>>58980286
shit, I chose the wrong pic. Though that is an accurate an accurate representation of what I've previously been using.

I got green switches

now I think my roommates hate me

>>58980052
idk maybe
My HHKB from 2 years ago feels the same as it did the day I received it I think.
I have another one and it's always felt lighter, so there's some variation from batch to batch.

>>58979527
Well he's not wrong

Is there such thing as a MECHANICAL MOUSE?

>>58980615
Is he though? Not baiting, actually asking.

>>58980691
ball mouse

>>58980722
gross dude

>>58978064
What would you reccomend instead then?

Just got a Quickfire Rapid and I wanna get blank replacement caps

How do I know/what are the caps called and what's the best ones to buy?

>>58980804
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1652

Or pick some other set of thick, cherry profile PBTs.

>>58980857
So I just have to look for cherry caps? There isn't a specific sizing thing?

>>58980876
The quickfire rapid has a bog standard layout, so most any keycap set with MX mounts will work.

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if only the VA68m was programmable

>>58967012
>>58976570
I got a memebrand one, don't know how to solder and don't want to void warranty
>>58976719
Some Syrian politician I think

>>58980888
Cool thanks man

PBT is the best quality?

>>58980931
PBT won't shine up with use like ABS caps will. So for blank caps PBT is the better option.

>>58980948
Do replacement caps effect the weight/accusation point of the switches?

In other words can I make a cherry red heavier in a sense?

>>58980693
Logitech keyboards aren't recommended here because of the poor build quality, but the worst part is that if something does wear out or break you're gonna have a hard time replacing it since they use nonstandard parts

>>58981023
Not especially. Even a heavy cap maybe weighs a gram & change. Maybe those metal SA keycaps would make a noticeable change, but not much.

>>58981023
You'll change nothing about the switch. It will still actuate at 45 grams. If you put a heavier keycap the sound will be effected

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>>58980906
FUCK you. I love everything about this picture, but that keyboard is sold out. How dare you make me feel this way... ;_; what switches and caps did you get Senpai?

>>58981068
What you reccomend for the same price range then?

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>>58981141
You can get the keyboards straight from Varmilo if you email their sales rep. I picked up the DIY kit from them and put in MX Silent Reds. You can see the build log here: http://imgur.com/a/PNbYm

The keycaps are NPKC Sky blue gradients that were running on Massdrop a while back.

>>58981207
how much do these keyboards cost. Google search shows them from 100 bucks at a Chinese place to $140

>>58981517
The one I ordered was at $80

>>58981574
For around that much money you could get a Ducky One that has much better build quality and plenty of programmable macros and layers to fulfill all your gayming needs. And I'm sure that in America its even cheaper. It even has media keys that can be rebound anywhere on the keyboard
Full size:
https://www.alternate.be/Ducky/One-DKON1508F-Gaming-toetsenbord/html/product/1316255?event=search
TKL:
https://www.alternate.be/Ducky/One-DKON1687-Gaming-toetsenbord/html/product/1293378?event=search

>>58981665
Are those backlit? Or is another keyboard you would reccomend that is backlit?

>>58981695
And that model is $115 here in burgerland.

>>58981714
>$115
Ouch and I thought we were the ones getting screwed since that g710 is no where near 80usd here
If you really want to go cheap you can buy OEM mechanical keyboards for like 60-80 bucks instead of getting it from some reseller who puts their name on it and charges you an extra 20 bucks

>>58981811
Thanks for the advice. The logitech keyboard is $80 on amazon (where I ordered it). I'll be probably just stick with the order and see how it preforms.

>Budget
Less than $100
>Location
USA
>Switch type
Browns, Blues, or Reds
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous keyboard
None, getting my first mechanical board for my first pc build

>>58981971
>USA
>ISO
The only place that sells ISO keyboards in the US is WASD. You can buy their bare-bones keyboards then get a set of cheap PBT keycaps for like 20-30 bucks.
Otherwise your gonna have to get an American National Standards Institute keyboard or ANSI for short

>>58982017
How are ANSI boards?

Dumb questions probably, but
How do you tenkeyless users cope with the crappy location of the tilde key? I use it constantly as a linux user, and suppose some modifier key could work, but that's the main thing that scares me off.

>>58982064
they're better mainly for their position of the \| key as well as the longer shift. Even better would be the UNIX layout which not that many keyboards have unfortunately

>>58982081
Pretty sure every TKL keyboard has ~ in the correct place, unless you got some weird nonstandard keyboard

>>58982081
The tilde key is in exactly the same place on a TKL as it is on a full size board m8.

>Budget
$100
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
Reds or Blues
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
80%
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
None

>>58982090
Any boards you would reccomend in that case then?

>>58967761
Do you live near London?

>>58982120
comes with a large mouse pad and a wrist rest
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/game-madman-g87-tkl-backlit-mechanical-keyboard

>>58982161
Since you live in the country that invented the ANSI layout I'd suggest you get any ANSI keyboard since those are the most common and easiest to get a hold of. If you want cheap you can get a Kaihua K16 for 60 bucks

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good night /mkg/

So I like the designs of boards like >>58966274 and >>58980906 but I have a feeling they are too small. Can anyone reccomend me similar keyboards like those that have a 100% form factor?

>>58966274
>Anne pro
Fucking want, is there any discernable input lag on it?

>>58982357
I use it wired on my PC, but I've played a bit with it on bluetooth and I couldn't notice anything massive. It is a bit laggy when paired to my phone though.

>>58982349
They are cute because they are small, apart from that it's mostly just the white/light keycaps and case. Is that what you're looking for? Don't know about that many white full-size boards, but for keycaps it's easy to find a white set.

>>58982708
I mean I like the overall design of them, I just have large fingers so I want to know if they are an ok size to have (especially if I want a numb pad) or if there are boards like them that come with a larger form factor.

In anycase, are there any key caps you would suggest?

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Okay /mkg/ this has been bothering me for a long time now. Ignore most of the content in the photo as best you can and please focus on the Orbweaver.

Where the fuck do you get custom keycaps for the orbweaver? I cant find them anywhere. They have proprietary caps.

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>>58982737
I'm the anon with the Anne Pro, and I have seriously long and thin fingers, and that doesn't really make a difference to be honest. It takes a bit getting used to the smaller size, specially on accessing some keys that I use often, such as the arrow keys, PgUp/PgDn, Home/End and the function row, but none of it has bothered me so far. I do have another keyboard that's TKL (without a numpad) which is my main one, so I don't mind some of the limitations of the 60% form factor because it's my secondary keyboard.

As for keycaps, you can check MechanicalKeyboards, Massdrop or even AliExpress if you want cheap ones.

>>58980906
Rem's Nendo is so cute.

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>>58964181
My roommate recently bought me a low end havic magic eagle keyboard and it often doubles letters when I hit them once. Is there a fix or do I need to send it back to China?

It feels great but makes it near impossible to type for long stretches without having to stop and edit. Like this post.

>>58982827
I have no idea what I'm talking about because I don't have one, but it looks like they're using their Cherry clone switches according to the official website, which should have Cherry stems. Maybe you have an older one? Or even a non-mechanical version? Though I think the rubber dome ones are called Tartarus.

>>58982827
>Ignore the rest of the photo
How can you

>>58982837
It's honestly the amount of space that bothers me. My friend uses a TKL board (although not its not as small as the Anne Pro) and honestly I would like a larger keyboard to type/game on (recently bought the Logitech G710+, which might have been a terrible decision). Then again, this is coming from someone that has used 100% form factor keyboards his entire life.

>tfw you are majorly regretting your recent purchase but its already shipped so there's nothing you can do about it
Fuck.

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>>58982864
Very carefully.

>>58982863
Maybe I should've phrased that better. Its not the actual switches that are the issue. The problem is the the actual shape of the keycaps because they form a curve. If you try and put regular cherrys on there they dont fit.

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>>58982879
Maybe it's related to the games I play (mainly MOBA and FPS), but I prefer smaller keyboards for them. I don't use the function row on anything, same for the numpad, and neither the arrow keys on most of them. I've also used full-size keyboards for my entire life, but switching to a TKL was a decision I don't regret. The amount of space I save on my desk is great, and they're a lot more comfortable to play games with, because you don't need to stretch out your arms to use the keyboard and mouse at the same time, so it's easier to keep a more natural posture by making them closer, and it also leaves more space on my mousepad, so I can use lower sensitivities on FPS.

Yes, typing numbers on the number row isn't as comfortable as using a numpad, but if you're doing this much number crunching then it's probably even better to get a separate numpad to put on the left side of the keyboards instead, which still leaves you with the better ergonomics of having a TKL/60%, and you can still use the mouse while doing it.

>>58982827
>ywn be friends with him and LAN party and chill
why even live

>>58982906
They don't look curved on that picture, so I assume he just ignored that when installing custom keycaps. Apart from that, you might need to either find a flat profile for the keycaps, or figure out the proper rows for each of them.

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>>58982953

>>58982837
I take it you bought yours from Banggood, did you have any issues with getting it? US?

>>58982953
>yfn get to fuck them
why even live

>>58982976
Yes, got it from Banggood. Took a while for them to ship because the white one with reds was out of stock and Chinese holidays happened, but I had no issues with it. I'm not from the US, so no problems apart from taking a while for my local post office to actually deliver them, but it got here pretty fast and cleared customs easily.

I also think I got one of the newer versions, which you'll also probably get if you buy the ones in back-order right now, because it has the padding on the battery to prevent it from being pierced by the PCB, and I haven't noticed any of the stabilizer issues that people say exist, specially on reds.

>>58982959
Its very subtle. But its okay, I've realised what I can't do and I can't believe I've never thought about it before. Basically all I need to do is recast them in resin and either dye the resin or paint over it. I'm retarded.

>>58965070
what grain loads you run in her?

>>58982939
I usually don't play MOBAs but I play my fair share of arena shooters and FPSs (though RPGs and strategy games are more my forte) so I appreciate the space between keys. That also being said, I feel like it might be weird having a small keyboard and a large monitor (getting a 24 inch one), but that might just be me trying to justify my possibly shitty purpose. I also like using the numpad for typing in expenses in my annual budget doc. That being said, this is my first mechanical keyboard for my first pc build so I don't know how this will work out. As far as TKL boards go though, I've been looking at the white Qisan as well as the aforementioned VA68m, on top of the Anne Pro for a smaller 60% keyboard, which would you recommend?

>>58983069
Forgot to mention, looking at the EagleTec KG011 boards as well.

>>58983069
I have two 24 inches monitors and I think that only makes smaller keyboards look even better in contrast with them. As for the three keyboards you mentioned, they all range from cheap to expensive, with the Magicforce being the cheapest one and the Varmilo the most expensive, with the Anne Pro around the middle. If you really need the dedicated arrow keys, then you should probably ignore the Anne, and get the one that fits better in your budget, if not, and you want RGB backlights, bluetooth and generally more portability, then the Anne Pro is a good option. I've never seen or remember anyone talking about that other board you mentioned, so I can't really offer any input.

>>58982993
Just ordered black/red, wanted browns. I guess I'll report back regarding the battery and stabilizers. I guess they updated firmware at some point as well so I'll have to check that if I can figure out how. Hopefully the expedited shipping will actually help get the order here faster. Last time I bought something overseas it took a month and a half to get back to me. Anyways, thanks for the quick responses.

>>58983116
Thanks for the suggestions. I may end up just getting the Anne Pro for travel/secondary keyboard purposes later in the year in that case and I can always just get it if/when my logitech board breaks down. I generally get really autistic about symmetry which was why I brought up the contrast with the monitors. As for the Magicforce vs Anne Pro, where I am they are more or less around the same price range but I may end up wanting dedicated arrow keys. I do like the RGB effect on the Anne. Do you have any recommendations for good 60% form factor boards that have dedicated arrow keys though?

>>58983132
Yeah, there was a firmware update. The latest one is 1.4 I think, and checking the version using the Android app, that's the one that came installed on mine, so it should be the latest. There's a subreddit dedicated to the keyboard (/r/AnnePro) and it has some resources, as in download links for the firmware and update tools, and some guides.
Shipping from overseas, specially Asia, usually do take a while, but this one was relatively fast. it took exactly two weeks for it to arrive on my country, and I chose the cheapest Air Parcel option which was like $2.

>>58983166
The Magicforce is usually the most recommended cheap 60%-ish with arrow keys. Another option is a TADA68, which you can get for $60 on Taobao, but then up to $20-30 to get it shipped to you from an agent, varying from shipping option and where you're located, or it's now available on AliExpress for $90 with free shipping.

>>58983185
Thank you. I'll see how the G170+ works out and if it doesn't I'll most likely get either the Magicforce or the Anne Pro (depending on which one is cheaper at the time).

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So I've got a unique DEC LK421 in my possession, It's a pretty rare classic keyboard that sports the ANSI UNIX layout.

Is there any way I could get this to work on modern PC hardware? I'd love to use it but obviously in typical DEC nature it's proprietary.

The connector it has is a 4P4C handset jack and from what I know uses either RS-232 or RS-423 serial to communicate.

Any advice or suggestions?

>>58982993
fuck, i keep checking and they moved the date back for the ones out of stock to march 4th

Any of you put stickers on your keyboards?

Mine has thick empty space and I'm thinking of what I could add to it.

>budget
€50
>location
EU

nothing else matters, as long as its mechanical and under €50, backlit would be nice but i understand thats not quite possible at the price probably

>>58981259
How much did it all cost you? Stunning keyboard.

>>58984422
>How much did it all cost you? Stunning keyboard.

From the album comments
>$130 for the kit, $50 for the switches, and $40 for the keycaps

>>58984308
Magicforce

>>58980906
goddamn that Rem is adorable.

>>58980065
Which switches did you get?

What a ded general. Why not merge it with somethink like /csg/ since thats pretty much what everyone has and recommends?

>>58983613
Isn't that a rubber dome?

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>>58987985
we have plenty of people that build boards like the gh60 and ergodox in this thread or discuss other high quality freedom boards.

>>58987985
just because most of the people asking for recommendations want cheap boards it doesnt mean thats all people own and talk about

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this is my new keyboard

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My new Drevo Tyrfing, with Qpad keycaps. Awesome for 40€

which switch feels the closest to topre?

>>58989205
zealios are like topre but not shitty
maybe the mod switches too, I haven't tried them

>>58989219
zealios are basically gateron clears, right?

>>58989227
aren't they ergo clears?

>>58989227
Gateron clears are a 35g linear switch

>Budget
Nothing too expesive, in the $50 to $100 price range
>Location
Burgerland
>Preferred switch type
Either browns or reds (blues would be too loud/expensive)
>Layout
ANSI
>Form Factor
100%, preferably with dedicated media controls
>Backlight
No RGB gaymen bullshit, but some plain white backlighting would be nice for the dark.
>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G170+

>>58989391
Kaihua K16 from mechanicalkeyboars.com

>>58989227
They would be if zeal didn't exist.
>>58989205
BTC domes with slider, check the wiki.

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>>58989443
>anon says he wants dedicated media controls
>reccomends one without dedicated media controls

>>58989550
What the fuck do you expect when dedicated media keys are limited to the following:
Das (Overpriced)
Gamer trash (Overpriced, subpar quality and non-standard layouts)
Fully programmable boards (Way outside his price range)

>>58989550
He said prefered but if he really wants one then he could get a Ducky for 99 bucks. By defualt they're set too volume, but you can easily change them

>>58989443
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1343

How is this one?

>>58989807
I think the full size magicforce keyboards are cheaper, but the one you linked is okay

So, whats /g/'s general conensus on Qisan keyboards? Specifically blue knockoff switch Qisan keyboards

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>>58989864
gateron>cerry
magicforce are pretty good for the price.
captcha related

>>58989864
/mkg/*

>>58989899
what about Zorro switches?

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>>58989923
i never used or heard about them but refer to this.

>>58989923
shit

official mx switch tiers list:
top tier: gateron and cherry
hipster tier: zealios, invyr pandas, mod
ok i guess tier: kailh and greetech
chinkshit tier: everything else

Just a casual reminder that TADA 68 and blank keycap set for it are available on Aliexpress

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any chinese clone boards with winkeyless' b.miniEX layout? i'm starting to like the extra column of keys in between the numpad and main section, and the aesthetically pleasing cross-shaped gap between the four sections

Why are keycap sets so damn expensive? Tbh they are at least half my keyboard and can cost even more.

I'm enjoying my Anne Pro, save for a few things, but I really dislike the key font, though every keyset I checked was either expensive as fuck or inferior (ABS or PBT worse than what's already on here).

>Budget
<$125 USD
>Location
USA
>Layout
ANSI
>Form Factor
100%
>Backlight
Yes please
>Current keyboard
Logitech G105, volume control is nice but not essential. Looking for something stiffer

>>58990781
Fuck me forgot
>Switch type
clears

What the best Ducky keyboard of all time? Considering buy a second hand ducky shine 2

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Are there any transparent 60% wrist rests like the jelly key ones? Can't find those for sale anywhere unfortuantely

>>58968651
NO NIGGA BLACKS ARE AS SMOOTH AS RED JUST HEAVIER

BROWNS GOT A LITTLE BUMP, NOT AS GOOD DOUBLE TAPPING

>>58991057
Shine 3 is the best followed by the Mini, then the One

>>58991515
Shine 3 snake spacebar is so sexy

Not sure what switches I should get. Only considering cherry. I love my current browns, but I definitely want something at least a tiny bit harder. I would like a little more noise, but I bottom out half my key presses, and that's already fairly loud, so I could probably barely hear the clicks that blues make. Are clears nice?

>>58992116
Clears are great the most tactile you can get in cherry mx's but it sounds like youd like blues

>>58992116
I recently made the switch from greens to clears. I'm liking them quite a bit.

>>58992116
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1CCeuthyhaI get jewlios

cherry browns feel like linears for me now

Just got an RK61, bretty gud

mechanicalkeyboards is legit in case anyone was wondering

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New to using mechanical keyboards on the regular. This one here is the first one I have ever purchased. It's a Ducky with black cherry switches and it's been good to me so far.

I also own a Focus FK-2001 I literally picked up from a garbage pile. Some of the keys stick and it really doesn't feel all that great. I'll take a pic of that whenever I have it out.

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>>58993924
Nice. Mine didn't come with normal windows keys, but I don't care

Why would anyone want a keyboard with no number keys?...

I get being compact but that's pushing it by a lot

>>58994673
not everyone is an accountant. Most consumers don't need a numberpad and that was the way of doing things for such a long time. Most engineers back in the day used TKL and consumers used 60-65% keyboards. The only full size keyboards used were generally reserved for admins. For me I need a full size for CAD, but I'm also in the minority. For general use a 65 or 75% keyboard is more then enough since that is the standard

>>58994723
I'm astonished that anyone could get by without even having arrow keys.

Like I'm an engineer too so I'm biased but wow

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>>58994842
that's why I love the 65% layout. Arrow keys are where I draw the line.

Just got my second mechanical keyboard, this magicforce 68.

The Outemu Blues feels nice, but the cheap ABS feel cheap, thinking about getting a better PBT set for it...

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>>58995172

Forgot the pic.

>>58994842
Hey engineer, also engineer here
I have a computer at work with that shit
I see no reason for my home consumerist pig machine to use anything past 60%

>>58994842
most programming keyboards are 60% since you don't anymore keys for emacs

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Any reason why I shouldn't go in for pic related?

How are Signature Plastics keycaps vs, say, GMK?

>>58995781
SP's quality control is awful and caps frequently have bent stems that make them lean at odd angles. I have seen sets where there was not a single row that was completely straight. Also that set is hideous.

>>58965080
Kek.

>>58995781
Depends on the profile. SA is bretty gud.

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>>58995781
Don't get SP I've had to send back two shift keys. People like to shit on GMK for being ABS, but at least they know how to center the stems. You can do a simple google search and look at plenty of images where this is an issue. Just look at theses off set keycaps

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>>58995802
Love me some black and yellow. Less than 0 interest in the novelties though.

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>>58995829
Sounds like I'll be fine then. I'm not fussy or autistic enough to care about slight mis-alignments or key wobble or any of that bullshit.

How long has the wiki been down?

>>58995852
Why did you ask about the quality of their products if you don't care that they are poorly made?

>>58995781
just go.

>>58995852
It really is easy to separate a fool from his money, but then again I feel for the meme too

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>>58967919
What's wrong with Topre switches? It has tactile response like a very soft brown. Also unlike membrane the topre triggers without bottoming out.

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>>58995781
>>58995831
Wish recent SA sets didn't have that larger font for the alphas. It's a big turn off.

>>58995877
There are various degrees of quality, you know.
>>58995892
Wrong hobby if you care about money.

>>58995899
>Wrong hobby if you care about money.
I don't care about the money, but spending that much then going through the hassle of sending back keycaps since the stems don't even fit is just stupid. I'd rather spend my money and get another GMK set

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Finally another GMK set with the ergodox add on.

>>58995944
>>58995944
>>58995944

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>>58995110
Sometimes I wish I had a numpad but what I miss most going to the HHKB Pro 2 from the HHKB Pro JP is the arrow keys.

>>58995932
too bad the set looks pretty bad.