>Requesting purchase advice:
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
>Previous thread: >>52619043
Well I ordered a K612 recently also and since it's over a hundred ohms I figured the amp was necessary
Well I guess I'll see. Thank based amazon prime for getting literally everything I order to me in like 2 days
i want to get a pair of headphones since my headset is pretty much breaking down and i don't want a pair with a built in microphone, so im getting a pair of headphones with a standalone mic
comfort is a major thing since it's not unheard of for me to sit for 10 hours straight, if work allows it, since it's also going to mainly be used for gaming so is music quality not the highest priority (but i don't want something that sounds like absolute shit) as long as it delivers a crisp and clear sound, i also want them to be pretty sturdy, something that i can expect to last atleast a few years.
around 60-70 bucks
something about 500-600 sek
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
folkmetal; korpiklaani, equilibriumm, finntroll, etc
Siberia v2 x2
TL;DR - comfort and bang for my buck, pretty much
So I ended up trying the HD 558 and the k612 back to back and I *massively* preferred the k612s. Simultaneously better bass and less recessed mids and highs.
I always thought I preferred warm sound signatures, guess not.
The hell? From what I read the k612s were described as more neutral verging on slightly bright compared to the HD 558.
Maybe its just the "vielheiser" effect, but the HD 558s sounded muddy, with obviously recessed mids and highs compared to the k612, which also seems to have more bass to boot.
As I noted when i requested purchase advice, I've previously used IEMs exclusively and currently have Westone W20s for portable use 9which I enjoy immensely incidentally).
Yes you're right, K612 are usually described as bright compared to the HD558. Now you know that a slightly enhanced treble isn't necessarily worse than a recessed treble, like Sennshills mostly say when they call their headphones "natural-sounding", compared to the "horrible artificial-sounding" AKG.
Are the Sony XB10000 as comfy as they look?
Looks like pillows desu senpaitachi and I like that
Any decent alternatives? I heard they're all discontinued
Racism aside Nigger Jamal's opinions are fucking shit.
i've been wanting to learn more about the k702's cause all the good things i keep hearing about them but i can't find them on my shitass country. what's some other good shit on the same ballpark?
> He steered me right on the m50x.
> Citation needed
shieeet nigga is yous deaf
>hates good headphones that even Lachlan from LachlanLikesAThing says are pleasant
A lot of headphones do actually. Pistons are good if you get them for $16 but kpp are flat out shit and not worth getting. It's better to pay slightly more for actually good headphones. Unless nigger bass is your idea of good sounding headphones.
Yes, M50x is still commonly recommended in its price range if you want bassy without the DT770 treble, but it needs replacement pads to be comfy. The thing is that the previous M50 was a much better value proposition when you could find it for $90 competing with the V6.
I listen to Death Grips, Björk and hippie music through Apple headphones when I'm bored. I have the physical CD's I don't like .mp3's or .mp etc that aren't lossless formats. Great sound over Bluetooth too, and owning the disc is cool.
I have the XB700. ''V'' sound (a lot of bass and treble)
>Are the Sony XB10000 as comfy as they look
yeah but not ultra
>I heard they're all discontinued
The new XB 400/600/800 are wost than the old XB 300/700/1000. Sony want make more money.
I've heard this as well, but I have never had this issue. I believe that people who say this don't make the proper adjustments so that the headphones stay snug
That said the cushiony part gets pretty dirty, so I recommend cleaning once a week or so
That depends entirely on the mobo and the implementation of the audio codec there. Impossible to generalize in either way.
>Well I ordered a K612 recently also and since it's over a hundred ohms I figured the amp was necessary
It does work like that but K612 is fairly insensitive so an amplifier is recommended in most cases.
It's been a month and Philips still hasn't called me back to let me know they've got some new shp-9500s in stock so I can get a replacement.
From easiest to drive to the hardest to drive:
DT 880(250 Ohm)
DT 880(600 Ohm)
Any of them will do. HD 558 is closest to a diffuse field target and has the smoothest response. DT880 and K702 are both bright headphones but in a different way. AD700X is very bass light hence it too might also sound a bit bright.
For classical and easier to drive, the ATH-AD700x would easily be the best out of that bunch.
702 and DT880 are harder to drive, 558 is somewhat easier but like many Senns has an impedance spike that may make the bass sound bloated with a bad source.
I got a reply from Beyerdynamic.
>Vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht.
>Ich habe mir jetzt sämtliche Explosionszeichnungen von unseren Ohrpolstern angeschaut. Die größten runden Ohrpolster haben einen Innendurchmesser von 62mm. Das einzige was für Ihre Ohren wahrscheinlich passend wäre, wäre ein Hörer der DT 100 Serie. Diese haben Ovale Ohrpolster.
>Thank you for you message.
>I took a look at all exploded drawings of our ear pieces. The largest round ones have an inner diameter of 62mm. The only thing that might fit your ears are headphones of the DT100 series, which have oval ear pieces.
My ears are 64mm long. Google tells me that is exactly how long the average male ear is.
The inner diameter of the ear pieces of my DT880 measure ~60mm.
What the fuck were they thinking? How is it a smart idea to make ear pieces that less than half of the male audience can comfortably wear, while the majority has the sitting press on the top and/or tip of the ear, which is just fucking uncomfortable.
Unfortunately, these cans are going back.
What's the next alternative?
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size, preferably large enough to fit average sized ears.
>Open or closed
High. Please no fluffy ear pieces. They make my head feel like it's cooking slowly.
>Preferred tonal balance
Meticulously neutral, clear; I'd take colder over warmer
jcore, melodic electronic music
HD558 > painfully uncomfortable, sounded dull
DT880 > (not painfully) uncomfortable
I guess the next step would be the K702 or K712. How do they differ?
In which situations/setups you need an amp?
I heard it's a meme but not sure. I have an iPod Touch 6 as my main music source to power my K550's while inside and HD 7 DJ while outside
>UnboxTherapy video about a tube amp
>Top level comment says that tube amps have no effect on a digital source
>700+ thumbs up
Asking again because I didn't get an answer last thread; is it worth getting an amp for my HD600s? Just powering them via a Xonar DGX right now, but I hear the HD600s benefit massively from good amping.
> L-shaped plugs on the EP-100
I may be a bit biased because I dislike IEMs but L shaped shit in portable headphones is just asking for cable failures.
It's a big diminishing return for the money. Schiit stack Ubers or an O2/odac will be around $300 each.
I came from on board audio ALC1150 and it made a difference for me. Different headphones then you though.
The placebo alone may be worth it. I don't mean that as a negative either. If you feel your current gear is limiting you then something like that will fix it.
If it's loud enough and you're satisfied don't bother unless you really want peace of mind.
I believe the DGX has 10ohm output impedance which is not ideal for low imp phones but the HD600 has a high enough impedance not to worry about that.
-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, don't get one.
Now, I personally did get O2+ODAC combo unit for the HD 650s but that was mostly for a peace of mind. They were loud enough without it and sounded great but I just wanted to make sure I am driving them sufficiently as well as have a unit that is discrete so I can drive any headphones or in-ears and not worry about the quality of whatever device I am driving them with.
That measurement is too shitty for me to believe it. Pairing is a meme anyway.
So in case anyone is wondering, a first generation FIIO X5 doesn't appear to have any trouble driving k612s on the high gain setting.
They are as loud as I'd like at 65% of max volume and don't sound any better amped through a FIIO e17 i had lying around.
>only required for volume or to get rid of noise?
That's SQ though. There are also amplifiers intentionally designed to color the sound by distortion and/or output impedance.
But yes an audio amplifier is just that; a device to amplify the signal in order to get sufficient volume in listening. A good amplifier does that without distorting, adding noise and while having a suitable output to drive a load like headphones or speakers.
A quality amp/dac like the ones I said earlier will be better for the THD than anything that's in a computer. Whether on board audio or sound card.
What it comes down to is if it's an improvement to you.
They go on sale sometimes. No idea about in Europe though.
The AKGs get a lot of hate here simply because some weeabs own them. Great headphones.
Encore Rockmaster OE. New headphones that probably top everything in budget closed headphones category, including pro80. Detachable cable, pretty comfortable, swapable pads. Swap leather-like pads for included cloth pads, more comfortable and don't ruin sound. And buy some cable for it, stock one is only 1m long and kinda blows.
Well fuck.... I really wanted to get high quality IEM's but apparently my right ear canal is fucked. All the IEM's i try just keeps falling out of my right ear...(yet they all fit perfectly in my left.) I've tried the ones with the hook around the ear, and the ones with the little hook in the ear. And I've just ordered some cheap ones with the "triple flange" tips in hopes that, that shit fits properly.
Is there anything else I can try??
You need some custom IEMs. You get an ear mold at an ear doctor and send it off, then they make an IEM tailored specifically for your ears. They're quite expensive though, at least $300 for the entry-level models, but they're all balanced armature designs so great sound quality.
Some examples are 1964ears and Jerry Harvey Audio.
>I hear people saying good amps "tighten up the bass"
Damping of the transducer is a thing although its usually just poor voltage division causing problems with frequency response which leads people thinking "tighter bass response" instead of the source's inability to control the transducer.
Amplifiers and DACs affecting the soundstage is complete bs.
Amplifiers can alter the response but their main purpose is just to increase volume and do that cleanly. A dedicated headphone amplifier should also be quiet like you mentioned earlier, not exhibit any kind of audible distortion regardless of load or volume setting and generally have a potentiometer to adjust volume using voltage gain.
>next-level audiophile stuff
No such thing in this market really, especially not if you are thinking quality scales up with price. TH-x00 or whatever seems like a solid bassy closed headphone though.
>but they're all balanced armature designs so great sound quality.
There really isn't a correlation with sound quality and BA drivers and especially not with SQ and cIEMs.
BA drivers are definitely more detailed than dynamics. Source: I owned RE400s and IM02s and the IM02s are definitely more detailed. They're also colder/more sterile and suck the life out of the music too though.
Anyone here have any experience with high-end headphones? I have Audeze's LCD-2 model but am using Schiit's Modi 2 + Vali for a DAC/Amp combo. (Was referred to Schiit by a knowledgeable individual)
Everything sounds great, and I've been largely impressed with the quality of sound for the price paid on the DAC/Amp. That being said, is there a DAC/Amp combo that's blatantly better? I'd like to be getting the best sound possible from these.
>not owning 650s
Recommend me a good tube amp less than $400 preferably.
Listing products you have owned or used is evidence of absolutely nothing. That's all just frequency response and distortion and nothing you can generalize for a transducer type used. RE-400 is a dark sounding IEM which definitely will make it sound less detailed. The most detailed/neutral IEMs do use BA drivers but there are a ton of BA driver IEMs with terrible performance. Many CIEMs for example. Especially those with huge amount of drivers stuffed in.
There is no correlation with price and sound quality once you get past the extreme budget options. The best performing gear does cost but at the same time there is a plethora of poor products above and below their prices.
Yeah Magni or O2 for starters.
Where did you read that nonsense?
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Preferred tonal balance
Static X, Fear Factory
There's more than one subreddit for headphones?
I only know /r/heapdhones but that shit is even worse than /hpg/
> LOOK AT MAH HEADPHONES GUYS XDXD
r/audiophile and r/headphones
Also, take some time to view my other headphones
Left to right: Senn 558, Senn 500A, M50x (meme), HyperFag Cloud IIs, SR80e
audiophile is for general audio equipment discussion, /r/headphones is for pictures of headphones
I take it there's nothing better?
head-fi is full of shill mostly in disguise as well
well, there is no "matching." and tube amps are deprecated hardware that cause needless harmonic distortions of the 2nd order. of course, modern tube amps have really been able to tone it back, but theres no point in having one. you want a clean signal, and any tonal preference you have should be done with software eq, properly pre-amped. anything beyond that can be done with DSP
Don't know if this is the right place to post but ill do it anyway. I sent my koss headphones in since they broke and they have a lifetime warrenty. But i think they got lost in the mail. And i lost my receipt. So is there any way that USPS can prove that i did ship it to koss. I paid with a debit car if that helps.
Once you get past the absolute pauper ranges, it looses any sort of close relation to sound. It only gets worse if you invoke free digital EQ.
Loudspeakers can be bit different, but then again, the biggest expenses you would pay for are in SPL and bass extension in one cabinet, which you can cheat with subs.
>that cause needless harmonic distortions of the 2nd order
Really, it is distortions of all types and order.
>modern tube amps have really been able to tone it back
In terms of distortion, the best designs were adequate in the 70's, if you forgive things like limited power capability or potentially weird FR.
>anything beyond that can be done with DSP
I would not know of any widespread motivation in the industry to do this. There is the deliberation emulation of gross non-linearity (distortion) from tube amps, synthesizers, and other gear as a musical choice, and the alternate drive to "wire with gain" for loudspeakers and reference use.
There is general difficulty in digitally emulating the highly distorted guitar amps well enough to sound identical, but the effect in a guitar amp is more more complicated and intricate than any circuit intended for reproduction. At least on paper, these effects could more easily be adapted to serve distortion simulation of consumer valve amps.
Sennheiser Momentum any good?
What's the reason for their price being so god damned high?
Can't you retrieve the transaction info from the card purchase history?
Eh, original or the 2? Original pads are pretty damn small, they both have a warm/dark/treble reduced sound to them?
Just wondering if they're anything special. I like the "handmade" look they have going with the sewn headband and all but they're 300 fucking dollarydoos
They're good, but not $300 good.
Get them on sale or get MSR7s.
Saw the pastebin.
Hard limit really. I’d have a hard time justifying a higher price than $100.
Desktop Computer, Standard Headphone Input
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
I would like them to not bother me at all wearing them for many hours at one time.
>Preferred tonal balance
I wish I knew for sure, but I tend to prefer bass over treble.
Nothing Special. Uncomfortable On-Ear Headphones.
All headphones are a meme
Had you come a year ago you would get M50x, half year ago AKG weebshit or a few weeks ago Byerdinamic shit.
Who knows what the new hot dank meme headphones will be in a month
I'm not mad at all!
Well, I mean, everything repeated is a meme by definition. Meme is a very broadly reaching definition. "Women are a meme" is true, they have been repeated many times through birth. Same goes for men. Same goes for certain personality types and oh you could go on and on and never finish listing all the memes of our apparent reality.
Dinosaurs as a currently living organism is a dead meme. But not really because all present day birds are thought to be the only known living ancestors of that period! Fantastic!
I suppose my best course of action would be to try some on in a store. I do appreciate your input and the price of the recommendation is very reasonable.
Hi hello why isn't this guide in the OP anymore?
If you can get a Stax lambda of any kind, the cups are HUEG. Inside of my normal bias measure 40x80mm. They also apply just about zero pressure to your head. You might be able to get it in your price range if you look for used. Maybe.
>but more unique or varied?
It is also whitewashing how many are just bad and pricey.
There are more small vendors that try to break into the market with unique products at the higher end. They tend to lack economies of scale, even if by choice, and don't have as much ability to drive prices down. Higher prices would need to be justified by luxurious presentation and other unique values they can assert, which is niche a small outfit can squeeze itself into.
This assumes that there is a rational mindset to the consumer, instead of just pointing to the most expensive things labeled flagships and buying them, which is very much a thing.
I'm buying a gift, so I'll be answering these for him. It will be mainly used for gaming/recording/video editing.
<$60, somewhat flexible
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
Good enough for hours of use on a bald head
>Preferred tonal balance
Gorillaz, Blackmill, Ratatat, 80's pop
He really liked the HD202 I got for him 4 years ago, currently has Beats Studio (they're ehh, which is why I'm in this thread)
lol, jesus you guys. the k240 is fine too, i dont have a problem with that rec. i have more of a problem with your aggression toward an entire brand, which is pretty silly. not that you care
i mean, based on their measurements, by all means they should both sound veiled (if at all), but the 240 actually sounding more veiled, as its mid treble is even lower until about 8k, where the 240 is higher, and then theyre pretty much the same from 9-10k. perhaps the veiled sound comes from the 558s later rise to 3.5k?
I thought the K240 are basically overpriced Superluxes at this point since China did its thing and made a decent knockoff for a lower price.
The 558 is a tier up but obviously not available at ~$60, and it's not really worth breaking the budget to get it anyway.
Sennshills fuck off your veiled headphones are shit just deal with it
in comparison to both the k240 and 558, the 681s are going to be very bright. on top of that though, the 681 are called semi open, but they leak almost no sound... theyre virtually closed. that said, they are very very good for their low cost. but i would not buy them if you are sensitive to treble.
im trying to have a reasonable conversation with you, but you just come back with fuck off all the time. why dont you help me figure out what makes the senns veiled? do you not understand the science?
I thought so but the customer service rep told me they're still in production.
Maybe not for American the market though, since I heard they're still selling them in china, and saw the Netherlands shp 9500 page was still up on the Philips site when I was using my vpn.
I just hope they come through, and soon.
for their cost, they are phenomenal. and im speaking about the 681 here, not superlux in general. can you people read at all?
its not just that theyre a warrior for a brand, but it seems that humans' tendency to find patterns simply results in a natural bias to lay claim that brands are simply bad, ok, or good. i dont think some of the people here are even -capable- of breaking free from it. us higher iq people discuss actual models, and the brand, transducer type, etc do not matter.
how am i not being reasonable? youre literally just saying "fuck off" over and over. im pretty sure no one in any field would call this reasonable. and by the way, im not admitting to being a sennshill by replying. i simply know that youre talking about me, because im the one thats presently recommending a product that happens to be from sennheiser. i guess being poor just increases the likelihood to display animosity toward those that dont speak for your brand, which lines up with the lower iq's likelihood to fight for or against specific brands in the first place, as i defined earlier with pattern recognition.
this is all pretty easily identifiable imo
its not like i expected a different response from you; im not really talking to you guys. im speaking to anyone that can actually understand what im saying
anyway, carry on friends
>lurk the thread a bit
>call out your shitposting
>somehow I'm a shill for your favorite enemy brand
Can you go back to /v/? You would fit in with the children over there arguing about their manchildren consoles.
I got a pair of the active noise-cancelling Monster Inspirations for a gift, 2 Christmases ago. The housing is beginning to crack, and I've had to replace the cable because the left channel blew out, but everything else is still factory fresh.
I'm a regular anon who uses them for audiobooks/TMBG-style music on the bus, and for stealth-fapping when the roommates are home. I've recently come into about $3000 CAD - more or less $2100 in USD right now. (Fuck, the exchange rate is bad. $2,123.67.)
Is there anything on the market that will blow these out of the water? Price is not really a concern right now, I plan to kill myself if I ever get fired from my online customer-service eCare wageslave job. Thanks for the help.
Budget: Flexible, ~$2000 USD but would be nice to save some.
Source: PCs, Android phone (Note 3)
Preferred type: Headphones, open to top-quality IEMs
Open or Closed: Closed.
Comfort Level: If it loses 1 point in comfort, quality points better go up by 2. Comfort is a priority for long wearing times.
Preferred tonal balance: Warm/Neutral
Plan to buy another pair of headphones soon. K712s still made in Austria?
How have recent runs of HD600/650s been? Still issues with driver matching?
I know that feel.
AKG 702 or HD600 with a Schiit stack.
No because I am not a sad manchild who stakes this much of my identity on attacking and defending corporate brands on the internet.
Like most brand warriors you probably paid to do this, which is even worse than doing it for free. Who gives a shit, it's just headphones. Find better things to care about.
Damn, there's pretty strong consensus from several anons. I'm pretty impressed as a non-audiophile - it's good to know that there really is objectively good equipment out there.
Are closed headphones significantly inferior to open headphones at the high end of the spectrum? If they are, that might change my decision.
You're getting sucked into meme wars.
K702 is cold/neutral, HD600 is warm/neutral, but neither of them are closed and they need amping so they don't fit your needs. Maybe Fostex TH900 if you really don't care about price.
>Are closed headphones significantly inferior to open headphones at the high end of the spectrum? If they are, that might change my decision.
Unless Fostex TH900 like >>52646228 said
Also >>52646235 the AKG > Sennheiser is the worst meme
/lit/ anon here. I've been listening to audiobooks with the standard Samsung earbuds. What the fuck is an amp, and will it help me listen to bass voices when seagulls start screaming nearby?
if anything, the biggest MEME that exists here is ANY kind of BRAND WARS. theyre useless, and anyone actually being for OR against any brand is a subhuman retard that cant argue specifics, and probably doesnt actually know much about audio, or they would realize that brand wars is a DUMB CONCEPT. how is this hard to understand?
>Preferred tonal balance: Warm/Neutral
I know we're in the middle of shill wars but please. K702 is a bright headphone, and if he really wanted a bright headphone with that budget he might as well go full shillheiser and get the HD800S which is basically a superior K702.
I have no idea what the quality is of audio books. High end headphones could be great or they could be terrible ranging from earsplitting to just a bad experience from the distortion being magnified.
If they're like most shitty recorded things then the treble is probably through the roof so both the AKG and Sennheisers would be terrible for that.
I'm one of the guys recommending Fostex since they're warm and closed, so I did do that.
Just pointing out that K702 makes no sense for a warm recommendation and that he doesn't give a shit about money so there's no point in going bang for buck with K702 when the HD800S exists.
>i can't afford good shit
>i'll call it shit so i feel better about being welfare neet weeaboo trash
lol don't you have some japanese to pretend to know or something
more neutral than the k702 at least.
they really don't though, their only semi competent headphone is the k612 pro, everything else is either teh same thing just overpriced or a complete fuckup (see k812)
Thank you for your input, all. For now, I have decided to order the studio K702s from Amazon and see how they do. I may return them and try the Sennheiser recommendations later.
To everyone who recommended something else: I am sorry for being a pleb and a shitter. Thank you for your advice.
>tfw the Canadian listens to /g/ memeshills
youre making a mistake. im the first guy to recommend the 600, and theyre simply more neutral. dont get me wrong, all the headphones we would argue about here are part of the upper tier of headphones. but after that, you have the people that really understand measurements, how audio resonates in the canal, etc. but hey, if you think you want more than less treble, get the k702. just know that the 600 has less, and is more neutral because of it, and over all, more neutral is always better. theres no point in coloring audio, and if you want to, use an eq
well when i said that, i meant people here in the thread, not sennheiser. i realize their driver matching is a real problem, though i dont know if its still a problem. are there any newer measurements?
>Bruce Springsteen european tour rumors announced
>My brother calls me immediately and says he'll get the tickets for both concerts
everything youre saying correlates perfectly though. even the hd800 has higher treble, and yet again, you say it has good soundstage.
but you guys are getting ahead of yourselves. soundstage isnt real, aside from being open or closed. everything else is just the fr, as i said higher in treble and creation of airyness, tricking your brain into making things sound varying distances in the track.
Playing games the soundstage matters a lot too me. Really helps immersion.
It's not a distance thing. It's how real it sounds. A small sound stage is very artificial sounding. Among other contributing factors.
and then see, you have people that dont understand even the meme definition of the memes, and they just convolute things even further. truly i would hate to not have all the knowledge i have of audio, because seeing the things spouted are ridiculous. having to imagine myself being new to this world and reading this stuff would be a nightmare
And yes, I have heard it. Just don't know how it compares to Stax lamba since I can't find it around where I live.
>No idea what you're saying.
of course not, i did not expect a response
if you think a 7970 is better than a 780ti, youre retarded. but you were already retarded because you think a k702 is more neutral than an hd600. so yet again, im able to find easy correlations
>gaymers talking about graphics cards and soundstage have infested the thread
graphics card discussion in these threads would still be far more tolerable than akg weeaboos shoving their garbage down everyones throat. it's like they want everyone else to have the same pathetic audio experience they have.
> just know that the 600 has less, and is more neutral because of it, and over all, more neutral is always better. theres no point in coloring audio, and if you want to, use an eq
You're contradicting yourself with your own words. Neutral doesn't mean that it has recessed treble. Most people prefer the HD600 over the K702 because it has a smoother sound, but it's just a matter of personal preference. I personally find that the K702 peak adds a pleasant clarity.
Side note, this is an amazing album to listen to with my HD650s :^)
i didnt mean to imply that because the hd600 had less than the 702, that it was recessed. and i have no problem with you liking the 702 more personally, either. just be careful in recommending it to others, because a lot of people, particularly older people, are very sensitive to it. studies show that as we get older, not only do we lose our hearing to higher treble, but the remaining treble that we can hear we become more sensitive to it, so they tend to like less. that is why im always careful about recommending anything above neutral for treble in a headphone. perhaps even, we could add age to the request form, but more studies would probably be need to be done to pinpoint ages more accurately
>all this gaymen gpu talk
Considering AMD GPUs are much more expensive than in US and top models are relatively hard to come by (usually out of stock), I'm not surprised why many people choose Nvidia instead. It's not a problem about performance, it's about logistic.
Yes I can understand what you mean. Still I think that K702 is a good recommendation for someone wanting a neutral open headphone below 300€ for at least two reasons:
1) its infamous peak isn't even in the treble, it's more in the upper-mids, where most people's ears shouldn't be too sensitive
2) the peak isn't even as high or as fatiguing as people claim it to be.
But again, it all comes down to preferences.
The best headphones ever, without any doubt, is the K702. Not only is the sound stage amazing, it delivers important themes about society and has a lot of symbols about religion. Pisses me off that people don't understand how beautiful this headphone is and I just want to punch them in the face.
>ts infamous peak isn't even in the treble, it's more in the upper-mids, where most people's ears shouldn't be too sensitive
except this is where voices are and they're very obviously unnatural and tinny sounding as a result.
i don't see a 'weaboo' in that post. did you misquote yourself? punctuation and capitalization aren't spelling mistakes.
people need to learn in order to make changes necessary to make something stop happening. consider now for a moment that some people cannot learn beyond a certain point. wouldnt it make sense then, in this case, that you might find that "this always happens"?
I find it just right for me. Soundstage somewhat small but everything else is fantastic for the price, especially how fucking transparent it is.