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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
T420 - 14", normal size - makes you look autistic
X220 - 12.5", lightweight - shit resolution
Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (no, not the old ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
>you will get laughed at for looking like an autistic neckbeard
Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
Reposting my continued discussions here BC new thread
I'd bother taking that up, but I'll probably end up getting an x220.
I see there are x220i models, are the only differences an ips screen? Are those screens cross compatible?
The wiki says otherwise, but I see plenty of people who run it no problem, so I'll probably end up sitting with the x220 and upgrade the ram whenever.
>>you will get laughed at for looking like an autistic neckbeard
Really? Some girls actually have started conversations with me asking about it.
>Anon, your laptop looks like it could take a nuclear holocaust! I've never seen one in a store, where did you get it?
A journalist hottie asked me this at work a few months ago. Apparently, writers and journalists like nice keyboards and rugged computers.
YOU NEED AT LEAST 4K TO BROWSE /g/
Who cares about the disgusting scaling in Windows, cost and the fact that the bigger the resolution is the bigger power consumption is, not mentioning decreased lifetime and increased fragility. /g/ says you need 4k - it must be true. /g/ is never wrong.
-i models have crap specs, they're cheaper models for education. A T420i is acceptable because you can upgrade the CPU to put it back on par with a regular T420, but the X220i has a soldered CPU so you're stuck with whatever you get. Not sure about screen upgradability, but I don't see any reason why you wouldn't be able to.
also pic rel is a toughbook used by US military and the police. It's meant to survive extreme temperatures and it's built to be as reliable as possible.
It has a 1024x768 because the actual fragility and power consumption (ergo, mobility) matters.
The only reason why /g/ is recommending high-res screens is because /g/ is full of autistic underaged aspies who never leave their parent's basements.
Yes, it should be a drop in replacement, I think there might be another connector but it should just work like it has in the past.
Maybe ask the seller of the product, they probably have been asked that question before.
No 'i' designated machines only come with i3 or even celeron processors... avoid, X series require entire motherboard swaps due to soldiered on CPU.
i models are entry level for the machines, like for schools or for enterprise fleets.
Also IPS screens are available as an option, so X220/X230 can be configured with TN or IPS, it just depends on the Machine Type Model on the bottom.
Check the MTM number lookup.
Doesn't work on all models, I couldn't find the specific model I was looking for but it did cover the first four numbers.
Its a hit and miss but it's accuracy is better than everymac's serial results.
X1C3/2 were a major dissapointment to me compared to my S70 aka X300 pre-production model
I liked the T430 a lot, getting a T430s for the IPS mod. X230 IPS was cool but eh, didn't dig into it.
Those are sweet for their outdoor screens.
I got one and they are retardedly expensive for being outdated, but dem fucking batteries though.
Panasonic make God tier batteries.
>you will get laughed at for looking like an autistic neckbeard
You will only get laughed at if you're ugly as fuck. If you're minimally attractive chicks will be interested and turned on and then you can show them how skillfully you handle that TrackPoint and make them wet, but no worries because your ThinkPad has drainage holes.
>being this ignorant
I had all Thinkpads from X and T series since x61 (including x100, x120e and edge 11), even the T430 with modded 1920x1080 screen. After three years of swapping I decided to stay with x230 with IPS 1366x768 screen. When I take my laptop with me traveling I require long battery life and good quality screen - 1366x768 one is the best option in this case. When I need 4k screen to play with VMs, manage servers and do other desktop shit I just plug it into my eGPU. No fucks given.
Not really, most likely the same WXGA screen.
WXGA+ panels have the lenovo logo on the left on X200/1 units.
You could do the AFFS mod but that will require a cable and the screen.
There should be a performance increase from C2D to i5 yus, not much but its there, plus graphical peformance will be better.
Dude thats an insanely great deal, thats a fucking steal it shouldn't even be considered as most X240's start at $350 and i7 machines probably end up $600 easily.
You can't compare that robbery with other machines, its just either luck or great timing.
It took me about 2 weeks of somewhat compusing searching to get a 2010 iMac 27" for $300 with shipping, most go for $350 and even then those are problem childs.
Check the TP Forum, you might find a local seller for your area.
I'd maybe look at things like the t420, but muh rotating screen and wacom pen. Why did lenovo have to cut the rotating screen thing entirely? Removable tablets are just too weak or too expensive. Rotating ones allow for middle tier computers.
I did that was the cheapest price I could get, Pretty happy with it, I think it was bought then just sat in a box for two or three years and was resold
I was talking about mine
Is there anyway to get a legit Win 7 iso for a reinstall? I put my product key into microsoft's website but they said it was a manufacturer key (Win 7 Pro "OA") and therefore I need to contact Lenovo. But Lenovo's site doesn't seem to have any win 7 iso for download.
Oh, not so sure that's the reason for all this. Might just be because Windows. Still gotta mess
It's a real fucking jungle trying to find replacement parts for new Thinkpads, honestly. I'm trying to find a 1080p IPS for my T450s. I know there's an LG and an AUO one that are supposedly alright, but all the sellers I find with the FRU number are things like "equivalents". Probably real garbage tier stuff.
Huh, with my own battery in I get these temperatures. Not sure why mine are getting so hot.
They'll advertise as:
>LG PHILIPS LP140WF3
And then in the description
>LG 14.0" parts Genuine Screen Part Description
And then there's the catch:
>We do not sell inferior quality LG screens [...]
I guess I'll look into doing so then. Might as well give it a try.
I'm not sure how accessible things are in laptops. I know there's not a whole lot of things you can change or swap out though.
Thinkpads are particularly notable for the accessibility of their innards. Your X220t will be a bit harder to repaste than the bigger and simpler models, but it's doable. Get the hardware maintenance manual from Lenovo's site and follow it well and everything should be fine.
You can do it yourself if you have the laptop's service manual and a good set of screwdrivers. I'd watch a video of someone dismantling the same model as the one you have before getting started if I were you.
>almost got the who mobo out
>just one more screw
>it's the one on the wifi card
>try to turn the screw driver
>strips the screw to all hell
What is this suffering?
The 'i' models are the same as the normal model, just lower-specced (i3 CPUs instead of i5 or i7, for instance).
I've done the kbd swap into an x230 and I am not sorry I did. I kept the x230 palmrest and just took my time grinding off the kbd nubs with a dremel and small file.
Remapping the keys under Windows was dead simple. As you might guess, it took a little longer to figure out under Linux but ultimately was not at all difficult once you know how.
First off, you're not wrong.
As an aside, I think /g/ and /tpg/ REEEEEEEEs over low resolutions because a lot are destitute NEETs and have only one computer scraped together from Good Boy points.
The trouble is that nobody thinks about use case before shitposting. Fuck, there are at least a handful of posts every thread where some faggot didn't bother to read the guide and then bitches about their own choice of TP that was never meant for what they intended to do with it. Just because it's a "business" laptop doesn't mean it was meant for every job description in the world of business.
I have an x230 and it's perfect for what it is - the portable, seldom-used-for-work cohort of my powerful multi-monitor desktop system. I couldn't tolerate any x768 res as my one and only machine and display either. Even that can be easily allayed by a docking station and a good monitor with peripherals.
I guess it would depend on what you're doing. For me the biggest problem would be screen size being quite small.
You might want to look into FL Mobile instead of trying to shove FL Studio onto a tiny laptop
be honest, is this actually easier to use or was it a joke all along? and you use the buttons below for clicking?
So I just got my T420s from ebay. It took 28 fucking hours to get Windows up to date and install my software.
Windows Update is such a joke compared to apt. Every time it crashed on an update it had to re-download everything. None of the packages cached. I've only had updates this painful twice in >10 years of running Sid.
That said, the machine itself has a good solid feel to it and after a painfully slow load time, handles the programs I need it to perfectly adequately. It solves my problem and is worth what I paid.
>needs to do video editing and digital painting
>chose a fucking T420
I'm sorry but you fell for the meme
My T410's battery is basically dead, it lasts less than an hour even with lowest brightness and wifi off. Official 9-cell batteries go for $150 apparently, which I'm not willing to pay. Anyone know where to get decent third party batteries?
Its a good deal, I was assuming he needed something to actually draw on, but I'm guessing he already has that, now that i read his post again.
Anyways, video editing is gonna take time
I think the root of the problem is the slow traditional disk. So running Windows Update hit the pain points very hard, with its reading writing, verifying, unzipping, overwriting. My main use for it is developing an Office 2010 addin, which is just typing and it's fine.
I would rate the "windows experience" pretty low, but I have no real basis for comparison. For instance, just clicking on Windows Update in the control panel would sometimes take 5 - 10 seconds just to get Windows Update on the screen. It was like 3.1 on a 486, but everything looks nicer. Once I have whatever program open, though, everything is ok.
It does seem to run The Stick of Truth fine, which was the secondary mission.
Not sure if it's available in your place but i have replaced the cells of my old Dell's battery for around $40. Now it can last from 4 to 6 hours on battery. Also i picked the same cell type as the old one so everything is good.
Just bought an Elitebook 8470p with a i5-3320m, 900p display, and a 7570m for $200, how'd I do?
Finished applying new thermal paste, put the laptop back together, and look at these temperatures now! They are actually a lot better now! Thank you anon, who suggested I replace the thermal paste.
Is this a common problem with laptops?
Wouldn't have worked.
Idle actually. Besides the browser being open. I would get high temps even while idling. So far so good. I just hope the new past does well after curing. About to give Prime 95 a test anyways.
I'm sure another 4gb of RAM is cheaper than a 256gb ssd.
TrackPoint would be GOAT if it actually did left-click when under enough pressure.
Dang. I see now why people seem to be having such heat issues on the Sandy Bridge generation Thinkpads. That's a good 20° hotter than my current X200 temps.
Good to see you got it down to manageable levels at least.
So my Elitebook 8560w suddenly won't run of battery. It worked fine few hours ago. Windows says its 100% charged, but the battery wear level says it's at 100% even though the battery is 4 years old. So obviously something is up.
Is it more likely the battery that crapped out all of the sudden, or could it be the mobo?
I'm looking at the x220 , I read some guidelines around here and apparently sometimes the bios or something will be locked? How should I go about purchasing an x220? Questions to ask the seller , any extra accessories to buy? What to look out for? I'm interested in this thinkpad because it looks like a good deal, only real problem I have with it is the USB 2.0s
Yours is still cooler than mine!
Yeah, kind of making me have small regrets on getting it but once I get the stylus I'll probably look over that.
Going to have to keep an eye on it though, make sure it doesn't suddenly jump up.
What keyswitch do I have /g/
It seems I have NMB but its red instead of blue.
I recently picked up another X200, but I discovered the thinklight does not work.
(I press the fn+PgUp key, and nothing happens. The thinklights work on all my other machines so I don't think it's a PEBKAC issue.)
I hopped on ebay, as usual, but to my surprise I was unable to find any replacements, not even at the $35+ level.
What are my options? Are thinklights interchangeable between models? I have two T60 's I'd be willing to tear into for parts models, since I basically am not using them.
I can't tell you that right now anon, as the seller never told me a stylus wasn't included. I already have one purchased, but it's going to be next week when I get it.
I heard it's pretty good though. So I'm hyped for it.
Would say it's only better if you want the moving touchscreen. Otherwise they seem the same to me.
My 9 cell battery overnight the battery stopped holding a charge completely. It won't charge, it reports as 0% and never changes. The battery light flashes but none of of the codes make sense, it's not too hot or too cold. Is it dead?
hmmm, that's annoying.
I found a top screen assembly on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X200-12-1-Black-Laptop-LCD-Back-Cover-Assembly-Fru-75Y4590-/291190549430 , but the seller doesn't take questions and it's not really clear to me if it includes a thinklight or not. If it includes a thinklight I'll probably get it, as the top cover is scratched to hell.
Where are you finding the ~$20 replacement, just lenovo's website?
They are out there.
kek i got a 8470w for $200, but it is incredibly thicker
That is an x201i top cover --- are they directly compatible? If so, I suppose I could use my label maker to print out "x200".
As for LCD vs CCFL, i'm about 95% sure I have the CCFL version, haven't opened it up to confirm. I don't see anything on that listing showing what it is, though. Can you tell just by the shape of the screen connectors or something?
If you don't want to go thinkpad you could check out the comparable Dell or HP convertibles, the Latitude XT2/XT3 or the Elitebook 2730p/2740p.
The Dell is N-Trig, the HP is Wacom, but I don't think there's a huge difference.
O.K. Got a t520 with:
>2X 9 cell original bats
I installed ubuntu and Mavericks on virtualboxes and am running w7 as host.
Wat do with this? I'm pretty new to this thinkpad meme.
Only downside is the weight of this with the extended battery, but I am a big guy, for you, so it's not too bad.
Hey guys, I'm looking for a new laptop and a feature I really want is a glass screen. Pic related is an example.
I saw a guy at school recently with a big ThinkPad laptop that had a glass screen. Does anyone know what kind that would be?
Battery probably shit itself. Sometimes it's not the cells themselves, the charge circuitry in the battery can go out too. In my experience that kills chinese knock-off thinkpad batteries as much or more than crappy cells. I've opened up chink batteries to harvest the 18650s for my atheism flute before and they're fine.
Even though it seems unlikely from your symptoms, you're right to at least consider it's the mobo instead - I had a T60 that would run off of a battery (this was a spare - I had a T61 I charged it in) but couldn't charge a battery itself. The battery specs were fine, it just wouldn't charge. The light would blink but it wouldn't do shit.
see response to the other anon ^^^
I use it all the time. It's easy as shit, linux or windows. If you have any questions, ask.
there is one with gorilla glass but it doesn't have multitouch meaning you can only use the stylus for touch, and the one without gorilla glass lets you use your fingers or stylus.
the rest is just different processor and ram variations
My w530 started randomly freezing then shutting down/just shutting down
At first I thought it was temps or the hdd dying or some bullshit so i installed a new drive and monitored by temps but it kept happening, I even nuked winblows and ran linux
Is this the motherboard? It happens on AC and battery so i'd assume that's the only thing left, i read some shit about an improper voltage regulator or something on a forum post
richard wants to know your opinions, have you guys contributed yet?
>walk into executive education building
>a couple of bimbos with MacBook Air
>other than that there are ThinkPads and business laptops everywhere
Thinking about this one.
No thanks, I'm dumb.
Was thinking xubuntu once again since I've used it before. I liked it's gui, but still want to look at some others.
Battery warranty is different.
Keyboard should be replaceable I think... i forget.
Its pretty good, really comfy because it puts less strain on your hand when you get use to it.
its like home row, when I use touchpads, my wrists hurt (but im gay so it makes sense)
T540p has been treating me nicely - I haven't been a laptop fag since win95.
Took me awhile to start using two finger touch to scroll and middle click - this one giant touchpad/button thing is actually not bad with gestures.
If you're in the US, price difference for Newchink will be negligible vs a used genuine. Chink charger bricks tend to run very hot which is a bit disturbing in and of itself. In addition some have reported reliability issues.
I don't own one, but general consensus seems to be the 's' is thinner but with a shittier battery life and the small weight difference isn't worth it.
>apology for poor english
>when were you when w530 dies?
>i was sat at home eating smegma butter when pjotr ring
>‘w530 is kill’
If you haven't already, try disabling the switchable graphics in BIOS, but sounds like the motherboard is toast.
'Sup guys, Thinkpad virgin here. Looking to get one for college (stats major). Looking for one under 5 lbs, with decent battery life and a good screen. Any suggestions?
The i7 QC sounds interesting, but sources seem a bit sketchy. Like one on fleabay that, at the very end, says something like, "oh BTW this is a prerelease engineering sample with some weird shit".
I'm getting a 2.5 GHz i5 and I think it's going to feel sluggish compared to my AMD FX-8350 desktop...
I thought it was a meme at first, too. Now I actually prefer it to touchpads. (Macs have those nice big metal touchpads that are great and on par/better for some stuff, everything else is garbage and you're better off with the nub.)
It is a bit slower than touchpads, but the advantage is that you can get all the way from one corner of the screen to another without having to pick your finger up and swipe a bunch of times. Also it makes some light FPS-type games playable (minecraft, doom, morrowind) with an experience that is not as good as a mouse but 1000x better than a touchpad.
The very first thing I did with my 'new' x220 was to disable the touchpad in bios.
Control Panel -> SmartAudio -> Audio Director -> Change it from Classic to Multi-Stream
Conexant's proprietary bullshit disables the internal mic when anything is plugged into the audio jack, even if it's not a microphone. Took me forever to find this.
>apparently sometimes the bios or something will be locked?
It just means it is password protected. It should say if the BIOS is password protected on the listing, if not just ask the seller.
>only real problem I have with it is the USB 2.0s
The X220 has an ExpressCard slot, so you can buy a USB3 card for real cheap. It won't be as fast as real USB3 but it will be way faster than USB2.
Eh, if it's anything like the ThinkPad tablet hinges, it'll hold up fine even if you pick it up by the screen on the weight of an Ultrabase and bar of Meiji
Because the original poster already left he didn't get his answer for a very long time (12 hours) so chances are he's not watching the thread anymore. It's a waste to reply to something when the difference is hours.
Anyone use PayPal credit? I was thinking about buying a thinkpads with it.
I've kept this thread open since shortly after its creation. Odds are I'm not alone in this. Chances are as you say that Anon won't return to this thread, but chances are also that they will.
Thoughts on this one guys? Being a yuropoor sucks but I really want a memepad.
>previously posted about how my T60 was having trouble upgrading to the UXGA screen
>opened it back up to prepare to downgrade back to XGA today
>something doesn't seem right about the RAM
>reseat it, put everything back together
>it just works
You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
Better than needing a different cable for it. :)
I love panel swaps.
I have a SFF ThinkCentre at work.
Performs well enough for its task, nothing special, runnin Ubuntu Studio.
Just pay it back before credit fees go up. :X
No fucks given when I reply to something 3 days ago.
>let a friend use my x200s memepad to google something
>gives her a wireless mouse and joke about the trackpoint being practically useless because the rubber is broken and gets almost none response
>she says she doesn't use it at all in her memepad
>she pulls out of her backpack a shitty, wrecked thinkpad e330 and lets me pull the rubber out and replace my old one
Thanks to my normie friend I saved a dollar
There are some third party 9 cells for Tablet, but Lenovo doesn't officially support 9 cells.
I'd assume the chink 9 cells is equivalent to a genuine 6 cell.
I get around 7 hours with the 6 cell
That's exactly how I feel, I see everyone getting their Thinkpads for a cheap ass price and yet when I bid on an auction the price gets too high. |: I'm trying to get one for work and school as well.
Don't bother with bids. They're a waste of time that rarely ends up saving you any money over a Buy It Now. Lurk ebay for about a week and you should be able to find what you're looking for, unless it's one of the rarer models.
They didn't make those for x200, they did for x220. I want to make a small, flat module can attach to the lower case to have a small extra battery so I can hot swap the main battery.
The only bids I bothered with were for my T60 and X220 and I ended up paying $60 and $209 for them respectively. I then got a T510 for $95 BIN, a T420s for $135 BIN, a T420 for $180 BIN, and another X220 for $99 BIN. Bids a shit.
I'm not gonna take pictures of all my Thinkpads (and I don't even have that T420s anymore), but I can show you the prices and describe them.
Beat to shit. Cracks on the keyboard bezel and chassis, dead pixel on 1024x768 screen, scratches all over, missing screws. Battery in good condition despite 400 cycles, Panasonic stronk.
Heavily used. No chassis damage, but keyboard is mushy and shiny and the 6cell battery was at half capacity, 500+ cycles. Screen is okay, except it's TN. Trackpoint totally fucked.
Almost perfect. Usual scuffs and such on the exterior, but keyboard, trackpoint, and trackpad are all like new. One dead pixel on the screen, but I got it for my mom so she hasn't even noticed that. Decent battery, Sanyo but only 100 cycles.
It was good. Battery was okay, no damage that I remember. Only had it for a few days before giving it to my friend.
Beautiful except the trackpad, which had some nasty green gunk on it. Peeled the sticker off and it's perfect. Keyboard feels brand new, not mushy at all. Fucked battery though, only 37% capacity.
Damaged but functional screen. Chassis is fine otherwise, better than the first one actually. Keyboard feels mushy but it doesn't seem to be from usage, I think this one just lost the manufacturer lottery. Battery is fair, Sanyo 9cell with decent usage.
Any thoughts on the Thinkpad 13? Decent price point, USB:C, light, seems pretty decent.
Lenovo Thinkpads are so shit. I was considering getting one so I was looking up reviews, and they're nothing special, plus they're cheap-looking. The OP's reasons to get one aren't very convincing either (w-well, you can get them for a couple of bucks in used parts stores; yeah, because they're cheap junk maybe?)
Why do you guys shill this Chinese brand again? Or is this a meme?
>plus they're cheap-looking.
something something books and covers?
but I mean, you'd have to be retarded if you think looks are anything to go by to judge the strength of a product, they have magnesium cages for fucks sake
and when has a surplus of spare parts ever been a bad thing? jesus fuck
>choice between cars
>extremely reliable, spare parts found in every corner of the world
>locked down, proprietary everything, where nothing can be replaced, with a single point of failure
Need help with this, debating between:
>Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz P8600
>4GB of DDR3 RAM
>Battery advertised to hold charge for at least 30 min, supposedly longer in practice, I have yet to ask
>Core i5 2520M 2,5Ghz
>4GB of DDR3 RAM
>Battery holds charge for 3 hours
>6 moths warranty
>Really good condition
Both prices include shippìng, installed OS aren't listed because I don't give a fuck, going to do a format an install W7.
Ok, it could be a great book with a cheap cover. I guess I'm wondering what's so great about the book?
What is this for?
I was just looking up a x220t with an i7 processor, some of the comments had me down. Dim screen display, short battery life, small screen. On top of that, it's not aesthetic. Maybe I'm missing what makes them really, really good?
2-0 for the T420.
I didn't consider that, always used desktop computers with dedicated GPU so I thought a Core 2 Duo would be more than enough.
If it can help, I'm going to use it mostly for office, check mail, pdf reading, lightweight stuff.
WHAT IN FUCK IS DONE TO THIS POOR LAPTOP? STUPID FAGGOT AMERICAN WITH MACINTOSH PHONE AND GIANT ORIFICE OF BOWEL LOOKS AT PERFECTLY FINE MACHINE OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND SAYS "NO, LAPTOP NEED LESS DUMB FEATURES ON IT"?
WHAT IS REASON FOR ISLAND KEY? IF YOU NEED TO TYPE QUICKLY IN EMERGENCY, NOW FINGERS TWISTED INTO PAINFUL ANGLE AND YOU MISS EVERY KEY! LOOK AT WRONG ANGLE OF SCREEN VIEWING! LOOK AT CHEAP PLASTIC CASE THAT CRACK LIKE TRASH FROM CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY! WHERE DID POINTING STICK GO?
I HEAR OF CANCER OF MACINTOSH IN AMERICA. ADDING ISLAND KEY TO LAPTOP MEANS YOU CHANGE OTHER PARTS. WHAT ELSE YOU FUCK? YOU PUT CHEAP SOLDERED RAM? HOW ABOUT BAD SCREEN OF TWISTED NEMATIC DESIGN AND ASPECT OF HOLLYWOOD TO SHOW OFF AT CAPITALIST COFFEE HOUSE AND NEVER COMRADE CAN SEE WHEN SIT NEXT TO YOU?
SURE, IS ONLY CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY COPY TYPE BUT IS STILL PROUD DESIGN OF RICHARD SAPPER. THIS IS LIKE SENDING HIM BIRTHDAY CARD WITH SEVERED OFF THUMB OF DAUGHTER IN ENVELOPE. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY COMRADE SAPPERI! I PISS ON ALL YOU CREATE!" LARGE MOUND FORMS OVER LANDFILL BY CONSTANT TUMBLING OF ANGRY MACHINE SPIRITS. IS FAULT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
LAPTOP WAS FINE BEFORE YOU FUCK IT. NOW IS TRASH. MAYBE YOU CHECK IN FACTORY AND ORIGINAL DESIGN OF CASE AND KEYBOARD ARE STILL THERE. MAYBE IS NOT TOO LATE TO KEEP LAPTOP SOMETHING NOT SHAMEFUL TO TAKE TO PLACE OF EDUCATION OR WORK. TAKE SHIT OF GOAT AWAY AND COULD STILL BE GOOD LAPTOP.
>I guess I'm wondering what's so great about the book?
while I only have 2 older ones (x200t, t500) and can't speak for newer ones -
solid keyboards, with convenient trackpoints, they're not the second coming of jesus and have their own issues but I prefer using them over trackpads
to give you some idea, I've tried a few laptop keyboards in my day and nothing compares to thinkpads, they're the best scissor switch design I've ever used and are quite comparable to decent-ish non-mech desktop keyboards, and of the 3 hardware manufacturers for thinkpad laptops (chicnoy, alps, nmb) even the worst (chicnoy) is still comparable to the best (nmb) and they're all fairly solid
then you have the design, aesthetics aside the design is excellent and everything is where it should be inside and out, replacing keyboards (which are cheap as hell) is a breeze and you're not going to get shit on with heat issues
with the x200t at least, the ips screen is great and the multitouch....is what it is, it's a cheap-ish waicom in a screen but does about as well as you'd expect
I mean overall they're going to be *really* comparable to other business grade laptops and if used or somewhat dated hardware isn't your thing then buy new, but they're only going to let you down if you're after specs and purposely buy something underspecced for your needs
oh, and the magnesium cage as others have pointed out is to stop flex but will also help immensely on impacts (which may break the plastic shell but will keep the internals from cracking, everything important is mounted directly to the magnesium cage)
Got my T420 blaze it ordered and I'm pretty hyped. So they're made in China and not Murica?
hey guys, just installed Linux Mint on my x220 and wanted someone to guide me through installing tpfancontrol. I have been on windows for a long time and have no idea where to start. Thank you.
So I caved in and bought a T420, i5 8GB 250gbSSD for $350. I'm new to this whole thinkpad meme, so I need some advice.
Can I upgrade this to 16GB and how much should I be looking to pay?
Can I install an HDD in here alongside the SSD?
Can I upgrade the 1600x900 display at all?
The webcam mic for my refurbished T420 isn't picking up any sound no matter what I do
I tried reactivating it which didn't work, and even plugged in an external headset with a mic that the laptop recognized but it still wouldn't transmit any sound
Any ideas as to what the problem might be?
>Can I upgrade this to 16GB and how much should I be looking to pay?
Yes. Whatever 16GB of laptop DDR3 costs these days, probably $80-$100. You need two sticks of 8GB, not four sticks of four or one stick of 16, if those exist. Frequency doesn't really matter, even if you get 1600 or 1866MHz it'll just underclock itself to 1333.
>Can I install an HDD in here alongside the SSD?
Yes, buy an Ultrabay HDD caddy.
>Can I upgrade the 1600x900 display at all?
There are mods that make it possible, but they rely on a custom board made by our chink modder friends which was out of stock last I'd heard and has issues on the regular T420. I think there are also a couple of panels you can swap from other laptops that aren't a resolution upgrade, but have significantly better color and quality than the stock T420 screen. You wouldn't need the chink custom board for those simpler panel swaps.
Picked up a 1200p T61p to add to the horde.
My x200s is becoming a pain to use (absolutely shit ccfl screen, weak battery, 2 out of 3 usbs not working, cracks on the body, 2gb ram - can be upgraded but not sure if to invest in it now) and I have two options:
a) Local guy is selling x200s with better CPU than i have (1.86 > 1.6 GHz), 2gb ram, good battery and stuff for about 30$ (please note this is in Europe so everythings more expensive). I could scavange it, buy affs, put my old screen in it and sell it for some bucks. I just love x200s.
b) I could invest about 500€ to get something more recent. But newer x2** are heavier, have 16:9 and honestly, if i invested that much, i want something fancy. X1 is cool but could afford only 1st gen which has shit screen.
I usually just type, browse interents etc on linux with awesome, so weak CPU shouldnt matter much, should it?
Sorry for such a long post and thanks for advice