/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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DAILY REMINDER

The original X1 with 4g RAM, x768 screen and slice battery for 200€ worth it?

>>52598940
720p is alright for such a small screen, bro.

>>52598956
Fuck yeah.

>>52598956
Maybe, I'd say a T420s should be 20% cheaper then yeah.
Who knows if you'll like its performance

is it possible to replace the non-backlit keyboard of an x250 with the backlit one?

Reposting my continued discussions here BC new thread

>>52597767
I'd bother taking that up, but I'll probably end up getting an x220.
I see there are x220i models, are the only differences an ips screen? Are those screens cross compatible?

>>52597797
The wiki says otherwise, but I see plenty of people who run it no problem, so I'll probably end up sitting with the x220 and upgrade the ram whenever.

>>52598910
>>you will get laughed at for looking like an autistic neckbeard
Really? Some girls actually have started conversations with me asking about it.

>Anon, your laptop looks like it could take a nuclear holocaust! I've never seen one in a store, where did you get it?

A journalist hottie asked me this at work a few months ago. Apparently, writers and journalists like nice keyboards and rugged computers.

>>52599008
It doesn't count when they're locked up in your rape chamber, anon.

>>52598963
IT'S NOT
YOU NEED AT LEAST 4K TO BROWSE /g/
Who cares about the disgusting scaling in Windows, cost and the fact that the bigger the resolution is the bigger power consumption is, not mentioning decreased lifetime and increased fragility. /g/ says you need 4k - it must be true. /g/ is never wrong.

>>52599025
Aw shucks. My bad, then.

>>52599045
But I do have to admit that 720 on a 14" panel is quite shiiiiet.
>>52599025
>2016
>not keeping your T series in your rape chamber for optimal air flow.

>>52599001
-i models have crap specs, they're cheaper models for education. A T420i is acceptable because you can upgrade the CPU to put it back on par with a regular T420, but the X220i has a soldered CPU so you're stuck with whatever you get. Not sure about screen upgradability, but I don't see any reason why you wouldn't be able to.

>sold my x301
>miss it almost immediately
are any of the newer x series that thin and light? i'd be pretty happy with x301 tier comfyness with a core i CPU

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>>52599045
also pic rel is a toughbook used by US military and the police. It's meant to survive extreme temperatures and it's built to be as reliable as possible.
It has a 1024x768 because the actual fragility and power consumption (ergo, mobility) matters.
The only reason why /g/ is recommending high-res screens is because /g/ is full of autistic underaged aspies who never leave their parent's basements.

>>52599073
This retarded picture was about x220 which has 12,5" screen.

>>52598987
Yes, it should be a drop in replacement, I think there might be another connector but it should just work like it has in the past.
Maybe ask the seller of the product, they probably have been asked that question before.

>>52599001
No 'i' designated machines only come with i3 or even celeron processors... avoid, X series require entire motherboard swaps due to soldiered on CPU.

i models are entry level for the machines, like for schools or for enterprise fleets.

Also IPS screens are available as an option, so X220/X230 can be configured with TN or IPS, it just depends on the Machine Type Model on the bottom.

Check the MTM number lookup.
>http://sm.krelay.de/tp/index.php?type=
Doesn't work on all models, I couldn't find the specific model I was looking for but it did cover the first four numbers.
Its a hit and miss but it's accuracy is better than everymac's serial results.

>>52599092
X1C3/2 were a major dissapointment to me compared to my S70 aka X300 pre-production model

I liked the T430 a lot, getting a T430s for the IPS mod. X230 IPS was cool but eh, didn't dig into it.

>>52599097
Those are sweet for their outdoor screens.
I got one and they are retardedly expensive for being outdated, but dem fucking batteries though.
Panasonic make God tier batteries.

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>>52599118
Pic related it's you

>>52599008
>you will get laughed at for looking like an autistic neckbeard
You will only get laughed at if you're ugly as fuck. If you're minimally attractive chicks will be interested and turned on and then you can show them how skillfully you handle that TrackPoint and make them wet, but no worries because your ThinkPad has drainage holes.

>Dislike the way the T410 touchpad works
>That slow painful learning curve to learn how to use trackpoint properly

>>52598972
>>52598986
Currently have x200s, will it be any upgrade if I don't care about performance at all? The feel? Screen?

T410 with 4GB of RAM and 120GB SSD and dell bag for 190€ Y/N?

Keep in mind I'm going to get jewed on EU no matter what I buy.

>>52599173
>being this ignorant
Ayy lmao.
I had all Thinkpads from X and T series since x61 (including x100, x120e and edge 11), even the T430 with modded 1920x1080 screen. After three years of swapping I decided to stay with x230 with IPS 1366x768 screen. When I take my laptop with me traveling I require long battery life and good quality screen - 1366x768 one is the best option in this case. When I need 4k screen to play with VMs, manage servers and do other desktop shit I just plug it into my eGPU. No fucks given.

>>52599332
Absolutely fucking not. I've paid for my i7 x240 with modded touchpad (with physical trackpoint keys) $250.

>>52599332
What processor does it have?

>>52599361
Computers are retardedly expensive outside of america

My T410 with i5 and 320gb HDD cost £150

>>52599290
It takes like 2-3 days and after that you'll never use the touchpad again

>>52599330
Not really, most likely the same WXGA screen.
WXGA+ panels have the lenovo logo on the left on X200/1 units.
You could do the AFFS mod but that will require a cable and the screen.

There should be a performance increase from C2D to i5 yus, not much but its there, plus graphical peformance will be better.

>>52599361
Dude thats an insanely great deal, thats a fucking steal it shouldn't even be considered as most X240's start at $350 and i7 machines probably end up $600 easily.
You can't compare that robbery with other machines, its just either luck or great timing.
It took me about 2 weeks of somewhat compusing searching to get a 2010 iMac 27" for $300 with shipping, most go for $350 and even then those are problem childs.

>>52599401
Check the TP Forum, you might find a local seller for your area.

>>52599401
B-but I live in east europe

>>52599368
>ThinkPad T410 252257U
>i5 2,4Ghz

CPU model isn't listed.

>>52599483
that's i5-520m.
Not bad, could be i3.

>>52599077
Oh, ew.
I'd maybe look at things like the t420, but muh rotating screen and wacom pen. Why did lenovo have to cut the rotating screen thing entirely? Removable tablets are just too weak or too expensive. Rotating ones allow for middle tier computers.

>>52599459
I did that was the cheapest price I could get, Pretty happy with it, I think it was bought then just sat in a box for two or three years and was resold

>>52599464
I know
I was talking about mine

Is there anyway to get a legit Win 7 iso for a reinstall? I put my product key into microsoft's website but they said it was a manufacturer key (Win 7 Pro "OA") and therefore I need to contact Lenovo. But Lenovo's site doesn't seem to have any win 7 iso for download.

>>52599612
windows 10 will activate using windows 7 keys if you want 10

http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/windows-10-november-update-activate-os-using-your-windows-7-and-8-product-keys

>>52599612
google "windows 7 iso digital river" and you'll find some links to some

>>52599602
>Dat Trackball and terrorist watch
HNNNNNGG!

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>>52599056
Oh, not so sure that's the reason for all this. Might just be because Windows. Still gotta mess

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X230t fag checking in

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>>52599837
My 220t with a 6-cell

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Just painted my thinkpadd in winter camo

how did I do?

>>52599999
>>52600000

>>52600020
lol

It's a real fucking jungle trying to find replacement parts for new Thinkpads, honestly. I'm trying to find a 1080p IPS for my T450s. I know there's an LG and an AUO one that are supposedly alright, but all the sellers I find with the FRU number are things like "equivalents". Probably real garbage tier stuff.

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>>52599993
Huh, with my own battery in I get these temperatures. Not sure why mine are getting so hot.

>>52600147
cheeky chinkies cheat cheaply

>>52600207

They'll advertise as:
>LG PHILIPS LP140WF3

And then in the description
>LG 14.0" parts Genuine Screen Part Description

And then there's the catch:
>We do not sell inferior quality LG screens [...]

Had my T430 for 3 years now.
Warranty is running out.

is it worth extending for 80,- euros?

>>52599635
>>52599683
"No".

>>52600185
Have you replaced the thermal paste?

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>>52600494
You can do that on a laptop?

>>52600679
Of course you can anon, this isn't an apple thread.

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>>52600739
I guess I'll look into doing so then. Might as well give it a try.

>>52600766
I'm not sure how accessible things are in laptops. I know there's not a whole lot of things you can change or swap out though.

>>52600796
Thinkpads are particularly notable for the accessibility of their innards. Your X220t will be a bit harder to repaste than the bigger and simpler models, but it's doable. Get the hardware maintenance manual from Lenovo's site and follow it well and everything should be fine.

>>52600796
You can do it yourself if you have the laptop's service manual and a good set of screwdrivers. I'd watch a video of someone dismantling the same model as the one you have before getting started if I were you.

>>52600432
also: on site repairs, y/n?

Anyone tried running War Thunder at 1366x768 on the X230? Did it run well?

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Just bought this

>>52601106
USD? Got lucky on the regular model last year for about that price, except it also came with a 128gb micron SSD.

>>52599983
>wangblows 10

>>52601150
Yes, USD, How does it perform? This will be my first time ever even touching one.

>>52601106
You got ripped off.

>>52601215
How so? It may not be the best, but i dont think i got ripped off, being that i came from this offer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834318222

Any good cheapo thinkpads with stylus? Or should I just forget about it?

>>52601432
x220t

>>52601261
newegg is a horrible place to compare prices on thinkpads.

>>52601614
Where do you compare prices then anon?

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>>52600844
>>52600867
>almost got the who mobo out
>just one more screw
>it's the one on the wifi card
>easy enough
>try to turn the screw driver
>strips the screw to all hell
What is this suffering?

>>52601684
recently sold prices on ebay that fits you tp condition.

>>52598957
The 'i' models are the same as the normal model, just lower-specced (i3 CPUs instead of i5 or i7, for instance).

I've done the kbd swap into an x230 and I am not sorry I did. I kept the x230 palmrest and just took my time grinding off the kbd nubs with a dremel and small file.

Remapping the keys under Windows was dead simple. As you might guess, it took a little longer to figure out under Linux but ultimately was not at all difficult once you know how.

Trying to decide which model to get. I will mostly only watch netflix and play Hearthstone on it. Looking at the T420 but could I get away with a cheaper model?

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>>52599097
First off, you're not wrong.

As an aside, I think /g/ and /tpg/ REEEEEEEEs over low resolutions because a lot are destitute NEETs and have only one computer scraped together from Good Boy points.

The trouble is that nobody thinks about use case before shitposting. Fuck, there are at least a handful of posts every thread where some faggot didn't bother to read the guide and then bitches about their own choice of TP that was never meant for what they intended to do with it. Just because it's a "business" laptop doesn't mean it was meant for every job description in the world of business.

I have an x230 and it's perfect for what it is - the portable, seldom-used-for-work cohort of my powerful multi-monitor desktop system. I couldn't tolerate any x768 res as my one and only machine and display either. Even that can be easily allayed by a docking station and a good monitor with peripherals.

>>52601710
get out your drill my dude

>>52602296
Would a x220 be goo d for fl studio.

>>52602364
Haven't fooled with fl much, couldn't say. I'd assume for something like that you'd want more vertical space if you have more than a handful of tracks. Or an external monitor.

Finally got my T420, and goodness me, I'm loving this shit

Is ebay the best site to buy one?

>>52602364
It's probably usable but I wouldn't want to do it

>>52600020
>autism

>>52602833
What specs then?

>>52603050

I guess it would depend on what you're doing. For me the biggest problem would be screen size being quite small.

You might want to look into FL Mobile instead of trying to shove FL Studio onto a tiny laptop

>>52603094
Well I was planning on hooking it up to my 27 inch external monitor.

>>52603115

Is there some reason you can't just use a desktop

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be honest, is this actually easier to use or was it a joke all along? and you use the buttons below for clicking?

>>52603194
Not really but I doubt you can get something decent desktop for 200$

>>52603292
You could get a second gen i5 desktop for under $200...
graphics card optional.

>>52603498
I've looked up builds and never seen that sort of thing. I don't need a graphics card, just the cpu and some integrated graphics to run my 1080p screen.

>>52603254
It is, i shit you not

Its way more comfortable to use when typing, or really doing anything. Comfy af

>>52598910
So I just got my T420s from ebay. It took 28 fucking hours to get Windows up to date and install my software.

Windows Update is such a joke compared to apt. Every time it crashed on an update it had to re-download everything. None of the packages cached. I've only had updates this painful twice in >10 years of running Sid.

That said, the machine itself has a good solid feel to it and after a painfully slow load time, handles the programs I need it to perfectly adequately. It solves my problem and is worth what I paid.

I fell into the thinkpad meme. Did I just shoot myself in the foot? I needed a computer for video editing and digital painting and bought this T420:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262238496061

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>>52603658
>needs to do video editing and digital painting
>chose a fucking T420

I'm sorry but you fell for the meme

>>52603694

kill me...

>>52603658
Why didnt you get a x220t, or something of the like?

>>52603749

Is there a specific reason why it was a bad choice? It looked like a good deal.

>>52603626

The initial setup was painfully slow or it's always painfully slow?

Do you guys seriously run anything other than OSX on your main thinkpad?

Seriously? If you choose the best notebook you should treat it to the best OS.

>>52603907
i run ubuntu with a OSX theme

My T410's battery is basically dead, it lasts less than an hour even with lowest brightness and wifi off. Official 9-cell batteries go for $150 apparently, which I'm not willing to pay. Anyone know where to get decent third party batteries?

>>52603813
Its a good deal, I was assuming he needed something to actually draw on, but I'm guessing he already has that, now that i read his post again.
Anyways, video editing is gonna take time

>>52603821
I think the root of the problem is the slow traditional disk. So running Windows Update hit the pain points very hard, with its reading writing, verifying, unzipping, overwriting. My main use for it is developing an Office 2010 addin, which is just typing and it's fine.

I would rate the "windows experience" pretty low, but I have no real basis for comparison. For instance, just clicking on Windows Update in the control panel would sometimes take 5 - 10 seconds just to get Windows Update on the screen. It was like 3.1 on a 486, but everything looks nicer. Once I have whatever program open, though, everything is ok.

It does seem to run The Stick of Truth fine, which was the secondary mission.

>>52603941
Same but I change the window and icon themes so that most people will assume it's OSX I'm using.

t. arch developer

>>52603993
Not sure if it's available in your place but i have replaced the cells of my old Dell's battery for around $40. Now it can last from 4 to 6 hours on battery. Also i picked the same cell type as the old one so everything is good.

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Just bought an Elitebook 8470p with a i5-3320m, 900p display, and a 7570m for $200, how'd I do?

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Finished applying new thermal paste, put the laptop back together, and look at these temperatures now! They are actually a lot better now! Thank you anon, who suggested I replace the thermal paste.

Is this a common problem with laptops?

>>52604335
>not a memepad
Enjoying hunting for replacement parts.

>>52604418
That's under load, I take it?

How do I set the clit mouse as middle mouse when I press it?

Not seeing the option in ultranav

Guys is either the 4gb/256gb ssd one or the 8gb/120gb ssd one of these any good? It's for MS office/web browsing/watching videos mostly.

http://amzn.com/B01913DDWS

>>52604626
>i5-2520M 2.5GHz
>office/web and video
u tell me

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>>52602301
Wouldn't have worked.

>>52604524
Idle actually. Besides the browser being open. I would get high temps even while idling. So far so good. I just hope the new past does well after curing. About to give Prime 95 a test anyways.

>>52604626
I'm sure another 4gb of RAM is cheaper than a 256gb ssd.

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TrackPoint would be GOAT if it actually did left-click when under enough pressure.
>>52604418

>>52604482
That is the only downside of HPs and Dells, however it was a good purchase

>>52604760
>Idle actually.
Dang. I see now why people seem to be having such heat issues on the Sandy Bridge generation Thinkpads. That's a good 20° hotter than my current X200 temps.

Good to see you got it down to manageable levels at least.

>>52604849
I heard they are more durable. I was tempted to go for an HP so people wouldn't think I'm a neckbear.

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Hey guys,

So my Elitebook 8560w suddenly won't run of battery. It worked fine few hours ago. Windows says its 100% charged, but the battery wear level says it's at 100% even though the battery is 4 years old. So obviously something is up.

Is it more likely the battery that crapped out all of the sudden, or could it be the mobo?

I'm looking at the x220 , I read some guidelines around here and apparently sometimes the bios or something will be locked? How should I go about purchasing an x220? Questions to ask the seller , any extra accessories to buy? What to look out for? I'm interested in this thinkpad because it looks like a good deal, only real problem I have with it is the USB 2.0s

Will the T420's integrated Intel GPU even be able to run a small game like Hearthstone?

>>52604798
Yours is still cooler than mine!

>>52604856
Yeah, kind of making me have small regrets on getting it but once I get the stylus I'll probably look over that.

Going to have to keep an eye on it though, make sure it doesn't suddenly jump up.

>>52604931
What about league of legends?

>>52604950
What thinkpad do you have

>>52604931
Yes

>>52605022
X220T.

>>52605155
How much

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What keyswitch do I have /g/
It seems I have NMB but its red instead of blue.

>>52605160
I got it for $250.

>>52605273
Would you say its better than the x220? How's the stylus for drawing?

>>52605187
Remove keyboard and check FRU

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I recently picked up another X200, but I discovered the thinklight does not work.

(I press the fn+PgUp key, and nothing happens. The thinklights work on all my other machines so I don't think it's a PEBKAC issue.)

I hopped on ebay, as usual, but to my surprise I was unable to find any replacements, not even at the $35+ level.

What are my options? Are thinklights interchangeable between models? I have two T60 's I'd be willing to tear into for parts models, since I basically am not using them.

T.Hanks

>>52605296
I can't tell you that right now anon, as the seller never told me a stylus wasn't included. I already have one purchased, but it's going to be next week when I get it.

I heard it's pretty good though. So I'm hyped for it.

Would say it's only better if you want the moving touchscreen. Otherwise they seem the same to me.

My 9 cell battery overnight the battery stopped holding a charge completely. It won't charge, it reports as 0% and never changes. The battery light flashes but none of of the codes make sense, it's not too hot or too cold. Is it dead?

>>52605349
x200's thinklight is connected to the screen cable, surprisingly they're kinda pricey ~$20

>>52605441

hmmm, that's annoying.

I found a top screen assembly on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X200-12-1-Black-Laptop-LCD-Back-Cover-Assembly-Fru-75Y4590-/291190549430 , but the seller doesn't take questions and it's not really clear to me if it includes a thinklight or not. If it includes a thinklight I'll probably get it, as the top cover is scratched to hell.

Where are you finding the ~$20 replacement, just lenovo's website?

>>52603527
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/T19C5-Lenovo-Edge-M72e-Thinkcentre-Core-I5-3470-3-20GHz-4GB-500GB-Combo-SFF-/191789236673?hash=item2ca78781c1:g:GrsAAOSwUV9WomCB
They are out there.

>>52604335
kek i got a 8470w for $200, but it is incredibly thicker

>>52605574
that listing looks like it doesn't include the screen cable/thinklight. Get something like ebay# 141882604991. Also make sure it's compatible with your screen, led or ccfl

Anyone bothered using their fingerprint scanner?

I think it'd be kinda cool and cyberpunk to do for kicks, but I haven't gone through the trouble of actually setting it up.

>>52605726
>ebay #141882604991

That is an x201i top cover --- are they directly compatible? If so, I suppose I could use my label maker to print out "x200".

As for LCD vs CCFL, i'm about 95% sure I have the CCFL version, haven't opened it up to confirm. I don't see anything on that listing showing what it is, though. Can you tell just by the shape of the screen connectors or something?

>>52601160
I got a msata ssd in there booting Linux mint too.

>>52601432
X220t or x230t for about $300.

>>52601432
If you don't want to go thinkpad you could check out the comparable Dell or HP convertibles, the Latitude XT2/XT3 or the Elitebook 2730p/2740p.

The Dell is N-Trig, the HP is Wacom, but I don't think there's a huge difference.

O.K. Got a t520 with:
>i7 2860qm
>16gb RAM
>500gb SSD
>1080p display
>2X 9 cell original bats

I installed ubuntu and Mavericks on virtualboxes and am running w7 as host.

Wat do with this? I'm pretty new to this thinkpad meme.

Only downside is the weight of this with the extended battery, but I am a big guy, for you, so it's not too bad.

>>52605951
>what do
I dunno, whatever you bought it for

>>52605951

What do you mean what do?

Did you buy something just because other people had it even though you had no use for it?

Sell it and do some charity work

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How do you know if the bios is locked and is that bad? I don't see it in the item description for looking for an x220 tablet

>>52605973
>>52606026
:c

>>52606031
stop posting this

>>52605331
>>52605187
But don't they look like NMB switches?

>>52606031
He got it working though
Not sure how he got past BIOs lock

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>>52606115

>>52606168
Short the eeprom

>>52606107

It's a computer, you can do pretty much whatever you want with it.

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Hey guys, I'm looking for a new laptop and a feature I really want is a glass screen. Pic related is an example.

I saw a guy at school recently with a big ThinkPad laptop that had a glass screen. Does anyone know what kind that would be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhGkxkzmPbQ

How do I go about getting a ThinkPad in Europe?
The guide mainly regards US citizens...

>>52606666
Ebay/Amazon
Check lenovo forums for a local reseller

would i be able to take a working screen from a t410i and replace my t410's broken screen with it?

my mom wants a laptop for $200-300

should i tell her to get a w510 or a t420? she takes some online classes which is what she'll mainly use it for

>>52606763

Just get her a chromebook instead of trying to force your memes on her

>>52604876
Battery probably shit itself. Sometimes it's not the cells themselves, the charge circuitry in the battery can go out too. In my experience that kills chinese knock-off thinkpad batteries as much or more than crappy cells. I've opened up chink batteries to harvest the 18650s for my atheism flute before and they're fine.

Even though it seems unlikely from your symptoms, you're right to at least consider it's the mobo instead - I had a T60 that would run off of a battery (this was a spare - I had a T61 I charged it in) but couldn't charge a battery itself. The battery specs were fine, it just wouldn't charge. The light would blink but it wouldn't do shit.

>>52605426
see response to the other anon ^^^

>>52605727
I use it all the time. It's easy as shit, linux or windows. If you have any questions, ask.

>>52606923
Chromebook doesn't run windows if I recall correctly.

Anyone who has an x220 tablet mind telling me which one I should be going for? Looking on eBay There's different versions of the same thinkpad.

Has anybody tried installing coreboot on their x220?

>>52606483
probably the x1 carbon

>>52607181
there is one with gorilla glass but it doesn't have multitouch meaning you can only use the stylus for touch, and the one without gorilla glass lets you use your fingers or stylus.

the rest is just different processor and ram variations

>>52606483
>>52607227
or the x220t

How do I know if my bios is locked?

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My w530 started randomly freezing then shutting down/just shutting down

At first I thought it was temps or the hdd dying or some bullshit so i installed a new drive and monitored by temps but it kept happening, I even nuked winblows and ran linux

Is this the motherboard? It happens on AC and battery so i'd assume that's the only thing left, i read some shit about an improper voltage regulator or something on a forum post

What's the best non-Ubuntu Ubuntu distro?

>>52607610

Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS

>>52607610
Debian testing

>>52606763
T510 or T420.
Screen size is all that matter really...

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richard wants to know your opinions, have you guys contributed yet?
https://www.fsf.org/news/whats-your-vision-for-the-fsf-fill-out-our-survey-1

>>52605187
Bump
Anybody knows

>>52607610
i like xubuntu, ubuntu gnome, lubuntu, and ubuntu mate

How would i go about installing OSX on my t420?
Also, where would i get a valid copy of a new version of osx? IT doesn't have to be el capitan.

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>walk into executive education building
>a couple of bimbos with MacBook Air
>other than that there are ThinkPads and business laptops everywhere

Does Lenovo warranty cover new keyboards and batteries?

>>52607623
Thinking about this one.

>>52607642
No thanks, I'm dumb.

>>52607806
Was thinking xubuntu once again since I've used it before. I liked it's gui, but still want to look at some others.

>>52607610
My personal favourite is xubuntu. It has a decent amount of options for customization and is fairly lightweight compared to other environments.

>>52607610
To confirm though, it's best I use a Ubuntu like distro for my x220t right? Or are there other distros I should look into?

>>52603254
It's pretty easy to use once you get used to it. Honestly.

>>52607967
Battery warranty is different.

Keyboard should be replaceable I think... i forget.

>>52603254
Its pretty good, really comfy because it puts less strain on your hand when you get use to it.
its like home row, when I use touchpads, my wrists hurt (but im gay so it makes sense)

>>52607914
>bimbos

lol are you some italian guy from the 70's

T540p has been treating me nicely - I haven't been a laptop fag since win95.

Took me awhile to start using two finger touch to scroll and middle click - this one giant touchpad/button thing is actually not bad with gestures.

I got a x60s, but I need a charger.
Is getting a $20 chink charger fine or should I try and find a genuine one?

T420 or t420s, is there a big difference? I kinda want one for school, studying computer science, any help guys?

>>52600185
Thats the sex number nice

>>52609352
If you're in the US, price difference for Newchink will be negligible vs a used genuine. Chink charger bricks tend to run very hot which is a bit disturbing in and of itself. In addition some have reported reliability issues.

>>52609382
I don't own one, but general consensus seems to be the 's' is thinner but with a shittier battery life and the small weight difference isn't worth it.

>>52607543
oh my god help me

WHY IS THERE NO UPDATED GUIDE FOR GETTING THE X220T RUNNING OSX?

Two T420 questions (i5, HD3000, not a 420s):

1) Can I upgrade the T420 to 1080p?

2) Does it take mSATA or m.2? And do I have to use only some particular brand/models?

>>52609639
>apology for poor english
>when were you when w530 dies?
>i was sat at home eating smegma butter when pjotr ring
>‘w530 is kill’
>‘no’

If you haven't already, try disabling the switchable graphics in BIOS, but sounds like the motherboard is toast.

>>52609720
many blessings upon you brother

Can't get even get an ancient thinkpad for under $100 fuck this country so hard

>>52609382
t420s difference over t420 other than cosmetic:
+usb3 standard
+900p standard
+lighter
-soldered on cpu
-runs hotter
-non 18650 batteries, wears faster, shorter battery life

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'Sup guys, Thinkpad virgin here. Looking to get one for college (stats major). Looking for one under 5 lbs, with decent battery life and a good screen. Any suggestions?

>>52609968
>-soldered on cpu

Holy shit, can I upgrade the i5 on my T420???

>>52610055
T410

anything newer is crap

>>52610185
go for it nigga, an anon here upped his to a quadcore i7

>>52610185
>>52610245
putting a quad core in means more heat and even shittier battery life though

>>52610245
>>52610262

The i7 QC sounds interesting, but sources seem a bit sketchy. Like one on fleabay that, at the very end, says something like, "oh BTW this is a prerelease engineering sample with some weird shit".

I'm getting a 2.5 GHz i5 and I think it's going to feel sluggish compared to my AMD FX-8350 desktop...

>>52610214
fuck you

- posted from my t420

>>52610337
'sluggish'

you don't need a 45w quad core i7 to shitpost on 4chan, watch youtube/movies and upboat things on plebbit

>>52603254

I thought it was a meme at first, too. Now I actually prefer it to touchpads. (Macs have those nice big metal touchpads that are great and on par/better for some stuff, everything else is garbage and you're better off with the nub.)

It is a bit slower than touchpads, but the advantage is that you can get all the way from one corner of the screen to another without having to pick your finger up and swipe a bunch of times. Also it makes some light FPS-type games playable (minecraft, doom, morrowind) with an experience that is not as good as a mouse but 1000x better than a touchpad.

The very first thing I did with my 'new' x220 was to disable the touchpad in bios.

should i get 1920x1080 resolution on a t450?

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>>52599983
>no backlit

what to do with models with no optical drives to swap out with non-SSD HDD's.

i need to use both.

>>52611279
X series can take an mSATA SSD and a 7mm HDD in the main bay.

>>52610938

Yes.

>>52611318

As can the newer T models.

>>52610214
there is no reason the t410 is better than the t420, the t430 we can all agree sucks a dick.

can someone help
when I install conexant windows 7 wont recognize my microphone, but with generic drivers microphone does not work

>>52612307
Some might prefer the 16:10 screen, although you don't lose any vertical space going to the T420.

>>52612338
Control Panel -> SmartAudio -> Audio Director -> Change it from Classic to Multi-Stream

Conexant's proprietary bullshit disables the internal mic when anything is plugged into the audio jack, even if it's not a microphone. Took me forever to find this.

>>52599097
>toughbook
>tiny fragile hinge

>>52604927

>apparently sometimes the bios or something will be locked?

It just means it is password protected. It should say if the BIOS is password protected on the listing, if not just ask the seller.

>only real problem I have with it is the USB 2.0s

The X220 has an ExpressCard slot, so you can buy a USB3 card for real cheap. It won't be as fast as real USB3 but it will be way faster than USB2.

>>52613407
>replying to a post made 12 hours ago
Idiot.

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>>52613371
Eh, if it's anything like the ThinkPad tablet hinges, it'll hold up fine even if you pick it up by the screen on the weight of an Ultrabase and bar of Meiji

>>52613493
I'm not that Anon, but what's the issue with replying to an old post? Especially seeing as said post's issue hadn't already been addressed.

Can I use my X220's genuine 9cell in an X230? Or will the battery validation fuck with that?

>>52613735
Because the original poster already left he didn't get his answer for a very long time (12 hours) so chances are he's not watching the thread anymore. It's a waste to reply to something when the difference is hours.

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Anyone use PayPal credit? I was thinking about buying a thinkpads with it.

>>52613772
I've kept this thread open since shortly after its creation. Odds are I'm not alone in this. Chances are as you say that Anon won't return to this thread, but chances are also that they will.

>>52613806
I am that anon though m8

>>52613829
Too deep.

What would be the best way to clean the lid on a X230?
It's matte and just a wipe doesn't work too well.

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Thoughts on this one guys? Being a yuropoor sucks but I really want a memepad.

>>52613953
Or should I just try and snipe an auction?

>>52598940
>Implying my x60 doesn't have 1400x1050

>>52613993
Snipe?

>>52614199
Win it in the last second. But I just can't be bothered, I'm seriously thinking of buying this one
>>52613953

I bought X61s with Win XP and the scroll button doesn't work even though it should as it's refurb. Is here any way to fix it? Like download driver for that.

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What do you guys think of this

>>52614233
Trackpad driver for Windows XP 32 bit incoming http://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-x61/downloads/DS002430

>previously posted about how my T60 was having trouble upgrading to the UXGA screen
>opened it back up to prepare to downgrade back to XGA today
>something doesn't seem right about the RAM
>reseat it, put everything back together
>it just works
You've gotta be fucking kidding me.

>>52613757
Pretty sure the way it works is you'll be able to discharge it, but it won't recharge.

>>52614427
It weeerks. Thanks senpai I didn't think I would ever fix it. I already tried 2 different drivers with no success before.

>>52614696
Better than needing a different cable for it. :)
I love panel swaps.

>>52614354
I have a SFF ThinkCentre at work.
Performs well enough for its task, nothing special, runnin Ubuntu Studio.

>>52613781
Just pay it back before credit fees go up. :X

>>52613493
No fucks given when I reply to something 3 days ago.

I could get either a Dell Latitude E5420 or a t420 for 250 euros.

what do ?

>>52615264
t420

if it was the e6420 i'd say go with the better specced model

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>let a friend use my x200s memepad to google something
>gives her a wireless mouse and joke about the trackpoint being practically useless because the rubber is broken and gets almost none response
>she says she doesn't use it at all in her memepad
>she pulls out of her backpack a shitty, wrecked thinkpad e330 and lets me pull the rubber out and replace my old one
Thanks to my normie friend I saved a dollar

>>52615318
I could try this too as half the people in my classes use thinkpads and I never seen anyone using the clit.

>>52615398
You should. I abandoned using it only because I was too lazy to order the damn thing, now I can leave the goddamn mouse at home.

Stupid question, can I jam a 9 cell 44++ battery in my memepad x220 tablet? Can't seem to find any info on it, 6 cells ain't cutting it for me.

> in eBay looking at thinkpads
> Freaking out about getting outbid

I just want a thinkpad for work and school ! Why is this process so stressful? How did you guys win your eBay auctions ?

>>52615457
There are some third party 9 cells for Tablet, but Lenovo doesn't officially support 9 cells.

I'd assume the chink 9 cells is equivalent to a genuine 6 cell.
I get around 7 hours with the 6 cell

>>52615484
That's exactly how I feel, I see everyone getting their Thinkpads for a cheap ass price and yet when I bid on an auction the price gets too high. |: I'm trying to get one for work and school as well.

Is it possible to make an extra second battery to x200 using ultrabase plug and controller from a regular battery?

>>52615484
>>52615511
Don't bother with bids. They're a waste of time that rarely ends up saving you any money over a Buy It Now. Lurk ebay for about a week and you should be able to find what you're looking for, unless it's one of the rarer models.

>>52615529
Can't you buy a slit? Or slice it whatever they call it?

>>52615533
You won't fool me .

>>52609785
Did it work? I'm curious if it was just the discrete GPU that is either not configured correctly or bad drivers or has shit the bed.

>>52615562
They didn't make those for x200, they did for x220. I want to make a small, flat module can attach to the lower case to have a small extra battery so I can hot swap the main battery.

>>52615598
The only bids I bothered with were for my T60 and X220 and I ended up paying $60 and $209 for them respectively. I then got a T510 for $95 BIN, a T420s for $135 BIN, a T420 for $180 BIN, and another X220 for $99 BIN. Bids a shit.

>>52606168
he could install Coreboot

>>52615648
I'm not saying you're lying but I'm gonna need some proof pls. Just to see the difference in conditions between the bids and bin versions

>>52615648
>he doesn't use an ebay sniper
>set a max price and walk away

just fucking end it now anon

>>52599483
For the T420 the difference in i5s is less than 10% so the series is much more important.

just bought an official 9cell off amazon for my x220, did i fuck up /g/

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>>52615749
I'm not gonna take pictures of all my Thinkpads (and I don't even have that T420s anymore), but I can show you the prices and describe them.

>T60
Beat to shit. Cracks on the keyboard bezel and chassis, dead pixel on 1024x768 screen, scratches all over, missing screws. Battery in good condition despite 400 cycles, Panasonic stronk.
>first X220
Heavily used. No chassis damage, but keyboard is mushy and shiny and the 6cell battery was at half capacity, 500+ cycles. Screen is okay, except it's TN. Trackpoint totally fucked.
>T510
Almost perfect. Usual scuffs and such on the exterior, but keyboard, trackpoint, and trackpad are all like new. One dead pixel on the screen, but I got it for my mom so she hasn't even noticed that. Decent battery, Sanyo but only 100 cycles.
>T420s
It was good. Battery was okay, no damage that I remember. Only had it for a few days before giving it to my friend.
>T420
Beautiful except the trackpad, which had some nasty green gunk on it. Peeled the sticker off and it's perfect. Keyboard feels brand new, not mushy at all. Fucked battery though, only 37% capacity.
>second X220
Damaged but functional screen. Chassis is fine otherwise, better than the first one actually. Keyboard feels mushy but it doesn't seem to be from usage, I think this one just lost the manufacturer lottery. Battery is fair, Sanyo 9cell with decent usage.

I have 2 thinkpad chargers, one of them is 90 Watt and the other 65 Watt. Can I interchange them? What difference would it make?

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Any thoughts on the Thinkpad 13? Decent price point, USB:C, light, seems pretty decent.

>>52616657
>that fucking laptop

NOPE.AVI

>>52616657
>chiclet keyboard
>no clitmouse
>no physical mouse buttons

Lenovo Thinkpads are so shit. I was considering getting one so I was looking up reviews, and they're nothing special, plus they're cheap-looking. The OP's reasons to get one aren't very convincing either (w-well, you can get them for a couple of bucks in used parts stores; yeah, because they're cheap junk maybe?)
Why do you guys shill this Chinese brand again? Or is this a meme?

How does a t420 run on window 10? any problems with it?

>>52616708
The non-Chrome variant solves most of those problems

>>52616657
Isn't that a chromebook? Their "special" keyboard triggers me so much

>>52616715
just a meme, move right along

>>52616715
Shills wouldn't encourage the purchase of used hardware, friend.

>>52616715
>plus they're cheap-looking.

something something books and covers?

but I mean, you'd have to be retarded if you think looks are anything to go by to judge the strength of a product, they have magnesium cages for fucks sake

and when has a surplus of spare parts ever been a bad thing? jesus fuck

>choice between cars
>extremely reliable, spare parts found in every corner of the world
>locked down, proprietary everything, where nothing can be replaced, with a single point of failure

Need help with this, debating between:

T400
>Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz P8600
>4GB of DDR3 RAM
>80GB HDD
>Battery advertised to hold charge for at least 30 min, supposedly longer in practice, I have yet to ask
>118,42€

T420
>Core i5 2520M 2,5Ghz
>4GB of DDR3 RAM
>160GB HDD
>Battery holds charge for 3 hours
>6 moths warranty
>Really good condition
>210€

Both prices include shippìng, installed OS aren't listed because I don't give a fuck, going to do a format an install W7.

>>52616781
>non-Chrome

how does the os change the hardware

>>52616991
It's not the same hardware.

>>52616962
Ok, it could be a great book with a cheap cover. I guess I'm wondering what's so great about the book?

>magnesium cages
What is this for?

I was just looking up a x220t with an i7 processor, some of the comments had me down. Dim screen display, short battery life, small screen. On top of that, it's not aesthetic. Maybe I'm missing what makes them really, really good?

>>52616967
t420 mah nigga

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hype intensifies

>>52616967
T420. Do not buy anything below Sandy Bridge. Can't properly accelerate video and even "heavy" web pages already make the CPU sweat

>>52617091
Look at the t420 that's a good laptop.

>>52617091
the mg rollcage eliminates chassis flex

>>52616967
Also pics.

>>52617095
2-0 for the T420.

>>52617116
I didn't consider that, always used desktop computers with dedicated GPU so I thought a Core 2 Duo would be more than enough.

If it can help, I'm going to use it mostly for office, check mail, pdf reading, lightweight stuff.

>>52617101
Where?

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>>52617181
Forgot the fucking pics.

>>52617185
from germany to finland

>>52617190

It came with XP?

>>52598910

>>52617212
pls post pics when arrived, considering to buy from the same seller

>>52617243
T400 comes with XP, t420 says W7 updated to W10.

>>52617254
sure i hope it arrives when its supposed to

>>52617181
the sandy is still worth it. the cpu is faster and more efficient.

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>>52616657
WHAT IN FUCK IS DONE TO THIS POOR LAPTOP? STUPID FAGGOT AMERICAN WITH MACINTOSH PHONE AND GIANT ORIFICE OF BOWEL LOOKS AT PERFECTLY FINE MACHINE OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND SAYS "NO, LAPTOP NEED LESS DUMB FEATURES ON IT"?

WHAT IS REASON FOR ISLAND KEY? IF YOU NEED TO TYPE QUICKLY IN EMERGENCY, NOW FINGERS TWISTED INTO PAINFUL ANGLE AND YOU MISS EVERY KEY! LOOK AT WRONG ANGLE OF SCREEN VIEWING! LOOK AT CHEAP PLASTIC CASE THAT CRACK LIKE TRASH FROM CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY! WHERE DID POINTING STICK GO?

I HEAR OF CANCER OF MACINTOSH IN AMERICA. ADDING ISLAND KEY TO LAPTOP MEANS YOU CHANGE OTHER PARTS. WHAT ELSE YOU FUCK? YOU PUT CHEAP SOLDERED RAM? HOW ABOUT BAD SCREEN OF TWISTED NEMATIC DESIGN AND ASPECT OF HOLLYWOOD TO SHOW OFF AT CAPITALIST COFFEE HOUSE AND NEVER COMRADE CAN SEE WHEN SIT NEXT TO YOU?

SURE, IS ONLY CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY COPY TYPE BUT IS STILL PROUD DESIGN OF RICHARD SAPPER. THIS IS LIKE SENDING HIM BIRTHDAY CARD WITH SEVERED OFF THUMB OF DAUGHTER IN ENVELOPE. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY COMRADE SAPPERI! I PISS ON ALL YOU CREATE!" LARGE MOUND FORMS OVER LANDFILL BY CONSTANT TUMBLING OF ANGRY MACHINE SPIRITS. IS FAULT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

LAPTOP WAS FINE BEFORE YOU FUCK IT. NOW IS TRASH. MAYBE YOU CHECK IN FACTORY AND ORIGINAL DESIGN OF CASE AND KEYBOARD ARE STILL THERE. MAYBE IS NOT TOO LATE TO KEEP LAPTOP SOMETHING NOT SHAMEFUL TO TAKE TO PLACE OF EDUCATION OR WORK. TAKE SHIT OF GOAT AWAY AND COULD STILL BE GOOD LAPTOP.

>>52617091
>I guess I'm wondering what's so great about the book?

while I only have 2 older ones (x200t, t500) and can't speak for newer ones -

solid keyboards, with convenient trackpoints, they're not the second coming of jesus and have their own issues but I prefer using them over trackpads

to give you some idea, I've tried a few laptop keyboards in my day and nothing compares to thinkpads, they're the best scissor switch design I've ever used and are quite comparable to decent-ish non-mech desktop keyboards, and of the 3 hardware manufacturers for thinkpad laptops (chicnoy, alps, nmb) even the worst (chicnoy) is still comparable to the best (nmb) and they're all fairly solid

then you have the design, aesthetics aside the design is excellent and everything is where it should be inside and out, replacing keyboards (which are cheap as hell) is a breeze and you're not going to get shit on with heat issues

with the x200t at least, the ips screen is great and the multitouch....is what it is, it's a cheap-ish waicom in a screen but does about as well as you'd expect

I mean overall they're going to be *really* comparable to other business grade laptops and if used or somewhat dated hardware isn't your thing then buy new, but they're only going to let you down if you're after specs and purposely buy something underspecced for your needs

oh, and the magnesium cage as others have pointed out is to stop flex but will also help immensely on impacts (which may break the plastic shell but will keep the internals from cracking, everything important is mounted directly to the magnesium cage)

>>52617376
well posted sir!!

>>52617383
If specs aren't what you bought it for what did you buy it for?

>>52617376
thinkpad island keys are easier to feel as they have a really sharp defined edge, like desktop keyboards

you either press the key or you miss it

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Got my T420 blaze it ordered and I'm pretty hyped. So they're made in China and not Murica?

>>52617791
The team that designs them is actually based in Japan, if that makes you feel better.

hey guys, just installed Linux Mint on my x220 and wanted someone to guide me through installing tpfancontrol. I have been on windows for a long time and have no idea where to start. Thank you.

>>52618049
I believe it's in the repos. Open a terminal and try sudo apt-get install thinkfan.

>>52618081
lemme try that, thanks

>>52618081
so I think it was installed after I did what you said but I cant find it in my list of programs

>>52618157
It's not quite exactly like TPFanControl, it just runs in the background once you install it. Read the documentation by running man thinkfan to learn how to configure it.

>>52598910
Running Linux sometimes when I plug in my charger my screens backlight turns off is this a t420 issue or an OS issue

>>52618188
>Read the documentation by running man thinkfan to learn how to configure it.
not sure what you mean by that.

>>52603658
>I am stupid and do not want to take responsibility so I fell for a meme

>>52618208
Open a terminal and type "man thinkfan" without the quotes. This will take you to the man(ual) page for thinkfan, where you can read more about configuring and using it.

>>52618248
oh great thank you, that was easier than i thought

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So I caved in and bought a T420, i5 8GB 250gbSSD for $350. I'm new to this whole thinkpad meme, so I need some advice.

Can I upgrade this to 16GB and how much should I be looking to pay?

Can I install an HDD in here alongside the SSD?

Can I upgrade the 1600x900 display at all?

The webcam mic for my refurbished T420 isn't picking up any sound no matter what I do

I tried reactivating it which didn't work, and even plugged in an external headset with a mic that the laptop recognized but it still wouldn't transmit any sound

Any ideas as to what the problem might be?

>>52616715
my x220 has traveled the world with me, never let me down. Excellent portable computer, I hope I never have to replace it.

>>52618279
>Can I upgrade this to 16GB and how much should I be looking to pay?
Yes. Whatever 16GB of laptop DDR3 costs these days, probably $80-$100. You need two sticks of 8GB, not four sticks of four or one stick of 16, if those exist. Frequency doesn't really matter, even if you get 1600 or 1866MHz it'll just underclock itself to 1333.

>Can I install an HDD in here alongside the SSD?
Yes, buy an Ultrabay HDD caddy.

>Can I upgrade the 1600x900 display at all?
There are mods that make it possible, but they rely on a custom board made by our chink modder friends which was out of stock last I'd heard and has issues on the regular T420. I think there are also a couple of panels you can swap from other laptops that aren't a resolution upgrade, but have significantly better color and quality than the stock T420 screen. You wouldn't need the chink custom board for those simpler panel swaps.

>>52618306
see
>>52613077
It's a real pain in the dick to configure. Listen to the mic and fuck around with the other settings in there until you get something you're happy with.

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>>52598910

Picked up a 1200p T61p to add to the horde.

My x200s is becoming a pain to use (absolutely shit ccfl screen, weak battery, 2 out of 3 usbs not working, cracks on the body, 2gb ram - can be upgraded but not sure if to invest in it now) and I have two options:
a) Local guy is selling x200s with better CPU than i have (1.86 > 1.6 GHz), 2gb ram, good battery and stuff for about 30$ (please note this is in Europe so everythings more expensive). I could scavange it, buy affs, put my old screen in it and sell it for some bucks. I just love x200s.

b) I could invest about 500€ to get something more recent. But newer x2** are heavier, have 16:9 and honestly, if i invested that much, i want something fancy. X1 is cool but could afford only 1st gen which has shit screen.

I usually just type, browse interents etc on linux with awesome, so weak CPU shouldnt matter much, should it?

Sorry for such a long post and thanks for advice

>>52618581
Forgot to mention the local x200s has broken screen.

New thread:
>>52618698

thoughts on the yoga 14?

>>52618279
You overpayed by over $100

>>52618839
Not a thinkpad--it's shit

>>52613806
I'm with you on keeping threads open long after they first start. I lurk this motherfucker like my life depends on it.

>>52615609
no shutdowns yet brother
the light smiles upon me

>>52615002
I kinda want a ThinkCentre now

>>52615887
The fuck is an eBay sniper?

>>52615609
nevermind
mobo replace time

>>52618400
Thanks!