/mkg/ - mechanical keyboards general

>>52511405
Why does it have separate return and enter keys

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First for incomplete AMK

>>52511453


On a MacBook with no number pad, the key combination fnreturn produces the Enter key. Individual programs can decide whether to treat the two keys as separate or the same. Many programs treat them the same.

The only example I have been able to come up with that still treats the two keys separately is iTunes: when browsing tracks, return starts playing the track, while enter (or fnreturn) enters track rename mode.

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Guys, is 7 mechs too much?

>>52511503
dat begian qt

How much am I looking at spending if I wanted to put my own 60% poker style board together (I fell for the zealios meme)? Just for the internal shit, not including keycaps, switches, and a case.

And any suggestions for what to buy? Only requirements are that I have to be able to make capslock the function key, the bottom right cluster into arrow keys like on the pok3r and it doesn't have any unprogrammable buttons like the pok3r's layer keys.

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>>52511533
colombia > belgium

>>52511533
anon pls.
that bitch is haggard af. look that those facial scars, those cock biters, eyeball catapillers, and that dumb as look on her face.

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>"I wouldn't hit this"

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posting keyboards in a keyboard thread.

Need to order qt keycaps when I get the money

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>>52511768
forgot pic lel

>>52511456
Have you tried moding a cream apls to be clicky?
Im very curious about how would they feel. If clone enough to clicky whites / blues, it would spare me the trouble of geting a board with those.

>>52511789
That's the first time I've heard about something such as modding alps. How would one go about doing that?

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Friendly reminder that you can get the full topre experience at any thrift store for only $10!

>>52511894
Dude I fucking wish man.
There's no way I can find something like that in just any thrift store. I'd have to scour across the county if not my entire state.

The only old ass, really really nice Mechanical keyboard I've seen recently was attached to a typewriter in my school's comp sci building.

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>>52511878
Well, if you are using the original AEK II cream alps, you can do this: http://imgur.com/a/pgWh2

Im not surre if it works on other kinds of alps tho. Probably only on tactile ones.

>>52512004
Oh cool.

I'll try that out in a bit and report back

fucking hell costar stabs suck

Is it even possible to buy cherry stabs and change yourself? I would need a new plate right?

>>52512046
Also, if you want it to be more or less tactile, you just need to bend the leaf. Recently I got some OD1 alps that sucked, probably because the keyboard condition was very bad.

It was suposed to be clicky, but it realy wasnt. Sounded like when you lube cherry blues too much and it looses clickyness. Then I started bending the leaves and now is most tactile (and clicky) switch I tested so far. The sound is so lound that now I regret bending it that much.

>>52512114
>I would need a new plate right?

Yep.
I dont like them very much either, but try ading some grease to the wires. At least it wont sound like that.

>>52512114
Just lube them, they are still worse than cherrys afterwards, but just a little.

>>52512190
>>52512195
my biggest problem isn't the sound it's just that if I push on the lower part of the key it get stuck

I think I'm just gonna remove the stabs except for space, that needs it

>>52512213
What keycaps are you using?

>>52512287
ducky pbt >>52511424

>>52512003
I don't think you understand.
I posted a membrane keyboard.
Topre is a membrane switch.

>>52512325
>Topre is a membrane switch
It isn't actually.

Thanks for proving that you don't know shit about keyboards though.

>>52512440
>m-muh endgame!!!
>t-those $250 were completely worth it
Keep it up anon.

>>52512527
Who are you quoting?

I'm not part of the conversation you were engaged in, I just saw your blatantly incorrect statement and pointed it out.

At least know what you're shitposting about you fucking imbecile.

>>52512563
Maybe you should mind your own business and not butt in where you're not wanted.

>>52512313
Oh, it usually happens with ducky caps.

Use a dremmel, or sandpaper, or a knife, of anything like that to wear the inner walls of the stabilized keys. Ducky PBT is too thick for costar stabs.

>>52512578
Is this seriously all you can come up with?

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Please stop arguing and post keyboards

Where do I get weeb caps like >>52499827 or are those just stickers? Where the fuck do I get those too?

>>52512726
iirc he got them custom printed from wasdkeyboards

>>52512726
Wasd.

Protip: they are shit abs

>>52512726
>noppoo lolita spyder
should i fall for the meme?

>>52512824
60$ boards are a scam.
They are the reason people try them and then think it's all a meme and go back to 15$ Logitech membranes.

Go expensive or go home.

>>52512693
Whenever I see SA keycaps I'm not sure if I like them or think they are disgusting.
I got a single cap here and the sound when typing is quite nice, but it's still kinda weird to press.
Hmm... The struggle.

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>>52512858
They are a meme.
There is a reason keyboards abandoned them for more modern profiles like cherry.

>>52512856
You sound like a marketer, tbqh.
What's wrong with $60 keyboards?

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>>52512946
Shitty caps, and if you spent 60$ on a board it means you are too poor to spend 100$ on good ones so you are stuck with them

Bad stabilizers (see costar)

Low quality and inconsistent switches (or fakes like kalih)

Low quality control in general so you risk defects like keys and leds dying

Terrible cases which lead to poor sound and feel

Do I go on?

>>52511789
I've done it to my AEKII. They feel and click wonderfully now, and are almost as nice as my model M. Not nearly as smooth though. Undamped and clickified creams feel great, try modding if you have a board available.

>>52512693
shit uneven profile

>>52512878
It's the same with DSA. The profile was designed specifically for keyboards with highly curved/angled plates, and with a modern flat plate it's really un-ergonomic and feels like shit to use. But now because of the massive circlejerk of a MK community it's the hottest meme around.

>>52513069
please do

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>>52513385
Gotta feed my kids man

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Our meme overlord is working on a 1950s inspired set

>>52513575
how many fucking retro sets do people need

also that font is appalling

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kek, enjoy your Corshit RGB.

>>52511785
pls tell me which keyboard this is

>>52513575
How is this different than jukebox?

>>52513643
pok3r

>>52513575
>>52513636
the reddit crowd loves faux 50s garbage because fallout

>>52513069
what the fuck, people pay $100 just for caps?

>>52513683
People spent 250$ on granite in this thread.

Go home poorboi.

Anyone have any experience ordering a Model M from Ebay?

Should I just stick to hunting for one in thrift stores?

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Who /livingtheunicompdream/ here ?

>>52513278
That has some serious style! Isn't it just rubber dome though?

>>52513804
Ye, like topre.

>>52513772
>Not just having an M13

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>>52513996
Forgot pic

>>52513772
>unicompdream
you mean crying yourself to sleep everynight over the shitty unicomp plastic and then dreaming about a real ibm model m?

no thanks

>>52513916
Dang, wish it came with alps.
How much did you get it for?

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>>52513804
>just rubber dome
>just

do you even oneness?

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>>52513645
>How is this different than jukebox?

this settles it, I guess

>>52514069
I don't like the feeling of topre, just isn't my thing.
SKCM blues remain my #1.

How much money does this guy make off of you retards?

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>>52514130

HHKB 2 vs Pok3r 3 ? gimme some arguments, price aside

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my wasd v2 came in and I'm very happy

this is my first non-gaymen mechanical keyboard and it feels absolutely lovely to type on, only thing I'm mildly annoyed at (entirely my fault) is that font on the alphanumeric keys is very small, it looked enormous on the custom layout sheet but honestly I can get over it

>>52514168
One's programmable, the other isn't.

Since 60% keyboards without programmability are retarded, the choice is obvious.

>>52514168
hhkb is more expensive, topre switches, different, more obscure layout

pok3r is cheaper, cherry switches, standard layout

both are meme boards, only solution is to get both

>>52514168
>gimme some arguments
topre profile is superior see >>52512878

hhkb fn layout is superior to pok3r (especially arrows and nav cluster) but pok3r has the pn layer iirc

backspace over return is pure genius and once you get used to it you get hooked

pros of the pok3r is leds if you like those and more caps choice

also hhkb has no metal plate so it's more portable and has no ping whatsoever

in fact hhkb has the best sound of all boards period. I'd link you youtube videos but those are all very loud and don't give justice to how silent topre on plastic really is compared to cherry on metal


Honestly I wouldn't blame you for getting the poker, but the hhkb isn't just a meme.

- sent from my happy meme

>>52513772
>unicomp
Enjoy your shit quality plastic. Objectively worse than the original boards due to Unicomp cheaping out on materials.

>>52514219
Report back here and let us know when your caps start to get shitty. That seems to be the biggest complaint about them.

>>52514280
Just typed my first sentence and they're starting to fade now!

>>52514280
What should I be looking for, exactly? My other mechanical keyboard was a Razer Blackwidow (when they were still cherries instead of whatever cheaper brand they use now) that I had for over a year with no issues. Are you talking about general wear off the tops themselves or will the keycaps literally just start to break down? I really don't care about wear, I'm used to that.

>>52514308
Things like the legends starting to fade, the caps getting shiny, color fading. stuff like that.

>>52514407
Alright, I'll keep it in mind. I read about it a few weeks ago but decided to take the plunge anyway. We'll see if it bites me in the ass.

>>52513278
Very cute but the key profile looks completely queer.

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>>52514308
First the shine, then UV coating wears, then the legends.

>>52514034
To lazy to find an AZERTY layout or event make one

>>52514275
>shitty plastic
exactly the same

>>52514130
Pffft.

>>52513772
How do these modern ones compare to the older ones from the late 80s?

http://www.koreanshoppingservice.com/

is this legit?
anyone have any experience with korean buying services?

>>52514803
just buy from widebasket on ebay.

they are legit.

hhkb or real force tkl

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>>52514873
I hate that huge bezel
especially on top

if u get one get the all 45g or 55g, dont fall for the variable weight meme

>>52514873
real force or 660c

hhkb is a meme

>>52514602
>exactly the same
Its really not. Awhile back we had anons do material tests to compare and unicomp's boards are objectively shittier in terms of plastic type. They scratch and damage much more easily.

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>>52514999

Get out

>>52513069
>Bad stabilizers (see costar)
What the fuck is with all the costar hate all of a sudden? People actually like shitty, mushy, cherry stabilizers?

>>52515276
I like it more than fucking costar
such a pain in the ass to swap kaps as well

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>>52515276
Did I fucking mention cherry, nigger?

>>52515276
>What the fuck is with all the costar hate all of a sudden?
People have always hated costar. Clipped cherry stabilizers have always been top tier.

Anyone know of a good way to mod away the big fat round thing around a ducky mini?

>>52515414
use scissors

>>52515414
>ducky mini
>mini
>huge bezel

it was a prank bro, you weren't actually meant to buy it lol

>>52514999
My old pops loves this keyboard, but hates on how the legends are worn the fuck out.
Made him test the other day, he hit 40 WPM.

>>52515414
why did you buy a ducky mini if you are going to remove the case?

triggers me all day when I go on r/mk to see another autist who turned a nice ducky mini into looking like any other generic 60%

>>52515334
Its easy to assume cherry shit in these threads since its what about 80% of everyone who isn't on topre is using.

>>52515481
Well Im a huge punk then
Ive fallen for so many of your memes ducky mini, topres, 60%, keycaps that cost more than keyboards...

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Got this yesterday. It's pretty freaking awesome.

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>>52513575
count me and my baby in!

>>52515606
blank caps really worth it?
>>52515608
That must be some programing for that thing to be usefull lol

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>>52515664

>>52515664
I wanted printed keycaps but at the time there were none in stock at the place I ordered from so I just went with blank caps. I don't find them to be difficult at all to use though and I think it looks really nice, but it's completely up to you.

>>52515608
they didn't have numbers in the 1950s?

>>52515681
>people cripple themselves learning a non-standard and non-ideal layout only to see their productivity and typing speed reduced to 0 when they're forced to use someone else's keyboard

>>52515691
Numbers are a recent invention, back then we counted with an intricate series of knocks and tongue-clicks.

>>52515716
>they're forced to use someone else's keyboard
I live in a free country.

>>52515733
>i never leave my basement

>>52515681
damn man lucky you must have decent memory. Must have taken a while to get it down haha.
>>52515683
atleas it doesnt matter how you put them in order lol.

>>52515739
that keyboard fits in a jacket pocket and usb is in every pc from the 1990 onwards.

I can plug it anywhere in the world.

>>52515764
wait how big is it then

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>>52515794
>wait how big is it then
pic not mine

>>52515831
Oh god how do you not cramp?

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>>52515831
God, how is it usable? Not even talking about needing to use modifiers to do anything useful, just the sheer smallness frustrates me.

Relax:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T472Q0tOXlQ

>>52515414
Doesn't it have screws on the bottom with which you can open it?

Perhaps put it in some other 60% case.

>>52515935
its not the standard 60% pcb so the holes dont work for other cases

>>52515520
>Cherry
>Shit
;^)

Wow
I just opened my NovaTouch up to prepare for the silencing mod
This is literally a rubberdome
This isn't mechanical
I'm so glad I didnt get a HHKB, this is just like the bulk ASUS keyboard that came with my computer. What are you getting for those extra $250? Those little springs? wtf what a joke/ripoff

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>Noppoo Choc Mini
>50€

Y / N

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>>52516056
>This is literally a rubberdome
hello?!

it's literally on their site

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>>52515980
Almost got me anon!

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>>52516056
>>52516056
What did you think you're getting?
Also, there's nothing wrong with rubber domes when done correctly.

>>52516056
wow
you literally cannot read

>>52516099
Why are people posting them here and on reddits mech subreddit?!!?!?!

>>52516056
You're a funny guy.

>>52516135
they think expensive = mechanical

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>>52516135
because they are better than cherry gritty plastic?

>>52516097
I was debating on getting one

>>52516097
Looks good from here. Y.

>>52516097
Honestly the case design makes it look like a $10 usb keyboard, but that's just me.

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Who triumph adler up in this bitch?

Regretting it every day senpai.

Should I buy a noppoo lolita spyder?

I don't mind the keycaps and I'll find an excuse to replace them later, but really I just need a red switch keyboard.

>>52513575
Looks pretty similar to Jukebox SA

>>52513729
Check local thrift stores. I practically made a small fortune selling them from thrift stores (Good Will in particular). Get some cleaning materials when you find some and clean them up as best you can. They sell for way more than you should have spent on it.

Considering getting Matias quiet click for work so I can type comfortably and not make my coworkers want to kill me. Are the switches any good or should I opt for for something else with some silencers or something?

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>>52516097
Get the white one with gateron switches and Thick PBT keycaps.

>>52516431
What about browns or clears?

>>52516431
Those switches are nice, and are very quiet. Go for it anon.

>>52516431
>Considering getting Matias quiet click for work so I can type comfortably and not make my coworkers want to kill me.

coworkers are pretty happy about my topre.

I annoyed them a week with mx blues before, so that they'd think topre would be even more pleasant.

>>52516463
I think they feel better than clears. Much more smooth with about the same tactility. Also quieter.

What's the next step after clears if you want even more resistance?

>>52516677
add a dab of hot glue to every switch

>>52516677
Tactile greys.

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goodnight, /mkg/

>>52516843
Who dat?

>>52516843
>hair on the ?
Kek

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Some time ago, an anon here claimed that he probably has the worst soldering skills in this entire thread.

I have come to contest that.

when people talk about key caps getting "shiny" are they referring to the look or the feel?
i have stock keys on an es87 that lost their rough feel. are PBT caps supposed to keep this rough feel longer?

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>>52513772
picked one up from massdrop a couple months ago
pretty nice

>>52516843

fuck off mito you idiot

i supported you before, but you went full tard this time

>>52516973
God damn anon! What the fuck!?
Also, whats the project?

>>52516980
Yeah, PBT takes much much longer to start getting smooth.

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>>52517039
>God damn anon! What the fuck!?
My horrible soldering skills. I'm slowly increasing, so you will probably be able to see a gradient of improvement running along the columns.

I'm turning an old apple extended keyboard into a 60% with discrete arrow keys.

>>52517086
>increasing
*improving

fuck me, I'll continue this once it's not 1.30 in the morning.

>>52517086
Ah so your the 60% AEK guy. I've been waiting to see how that would turn out. Aside from the soldering, its looking really good. Are you using complicated or simplified whites?

>>52517149
I'm using cream (who the hell had the idea to make a white switch and another switch which they'd call "cream") alps which (as I found out about 15 minutes ago upon opening one) are apparently dampened too.

I almost regret having switched to ansi layout now that I have this thing in front of me. At least the friend to whom I'll eventually be giving this will put it to good use.

>>52516456
I'm considering putting Carbon on my Noppoo, but the stock caps are too good to justify it.

>>52515608
Full retard.

>hurr let's just remove an entire row of useful keys for no reason even though they took up hardly any space

>>52517231
>Cream alps
Those aren't that bad though, I've actually been looking for another keyboard with them so I can salvage some of the switches for my SGI Granite, a few of the leafs got broken beyond repair before I got it. No idea how that happens.

>>52517069
If ever. None of my model Ms have shiny keycaps.

>>52516997
Yeah, they are. I still like my model M better, but my Uni is like 99% as good.

>>52516131

This.

A good rubber dome beats Topre any day of the week.

>>52517418
I kind of agree. My Compaq with NMBs is comparable to a topre. Of course I ended up liking BS better, so they're both in a drawer.

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>>52516973

Seriously dude?

Did you watch the soldering 101 video?

Obviously not. Watch it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ

Also, to make your job 100000000000000x easier, buy enablers and surface mount diodes.
>http://techkeys.us/products/the-enabler

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my first computer

>>52517374
How many do you need? I still have some laying around which I probably won't be using for anything.

>>52517455
I was thinking earlier today that I should probably watch some kind of video on soldering. Thanks.

That enabler thingy looks cool. I'll try that out next time I do something like this.

>>52517376
The first model M I found had ungodly shine on it. To the point where the keys were actually slightly smaller than the ones without shine. But, with 20+ year old keyboards that's to be expected.
Still had all its legends though.

>>52516097
where are they selling that for that cheap?

>>52517526
>How many do you need?
Like 5 at the most. But i'm in the US and i'm assuming you're not based on that layout.

>>52517574
Cover the shipping and I'll send you some.

I'll probably be going to bed soon, best drop me an email at [email protected] and I'll get back to you.

>>52517540
God damn. Did it still work well?

Dear anons.

I'm new to this world and I am dying to get my first mech.

I'm used to the oldschool keyboard of my Thinkpad T61 and I'm mostly spending my time typing. I think the Matias Quiet Tactile switches are becoming my best option... or maybe I am wrong.

Are they good as some people say?

>>52516973
Perhaps you have me beat.

>>52517665
>oldschool keyboard
>Thinkpad T61
Bro, what?

>>52517455
I should probably thank you a second time for showing me that video.

I just tried that on one solder joint and now I feel like an idiot.

>>52517599
Fuck yeah it did. Every key. Got almost perfect caps for it off a broken one and sold it to a friend who still uses it lol.

>>52517591
Thanks, but I don't think the cost of shipping from Germany to here would be worth it for 5-6 switches. I appreciate the offer though.

>>52517720
I probably won't be using them for anything, so send me an email anyway if you change your mind at some point. I can't imagine it being that expensive, I could probably give them a layer of bubble wrap and send them in a small envelope.

>>52517772
Alright, cool, I saved the email.

>>52517665
I can vouch for Matias quiets being good.
Seems to be a popular thing in this thread today.

>>52517686
Whoops. I mean I just got used to this keyboard. Going back to rubber domes is shitty.

>>52517798
Thanks anon. The problem I see is that the selection of keycaps is heavily reduced. But I'll keep on researching on the matter.

>>52517865
>selection of keycaps is heavily reduced
That is the bad part about them. Adapters exist so you can use cherry caps, but it also raises the height of the key a little

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>>52518276
Pic related

>>52513772
I would buy one if it didn't have key rollover issues.
30 fucking years and they still haven't fixed that problem.

>>52514219
What's wrong with gaymen?
I have the CT quickfire Rapid and it's amazing for the price.

If it had Cherry MX Clears and maybe some LED lighting it would be perfect. But alas, I have the superior feeling clicky but extremely loud Blues.

>>52518631
that particular design of keyboard predates gamer culture and PC games that require more than 2 keypresses at a time, so it's understandable

>>52518658
A lot of them have unnecessary bullshit like macro keys and are generally overly large.

>>52518671
Ya but the new ones should be an improvement.
The only fault of the original model m is the whole ghosting issue. They should have fixed it if they're producing them again. They'd attract a bigger market if they did that and tried to market it as some amazing typing or coding keyboard.

>>52518715
unicomp is in the business of making reproductions of model Ms, not improving them

they're not even good at the reproduction part, considering that they they cheap out on the plastic and have terrible build quality in comparison to a real model m

>>52518715
But that would require unicomp to actually do something anon.
Why do that when you can just reproduce the old design with worse materials?!

>>52518715
Unicomp can't while remaining backward compatible with model Ms. The problem is the membrane sheet.

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Hello fellow Topre owners

>>52518746
>>52518766
>>52518762
>You will never own a model M with 6kro
Batman feels

>tfw you want to go 60% but you can't let go of ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdown being in the right corner

maybe i'm not meant to fall for the hhkb meme

>>52518746
>>52518762

True. I like my Uni, but my model M at work is god tier build quality and a smidge nicer to type on. I just wish they would build them better and charge more. I mean fuck, they don't cost anything compared to Cherry shit. They could easily improve them and charge $150. Oh well. At least they have stellar customer service, and will get you any part you need. That's the exact reason I never recomment Das. Their CS is worse than fucking Comcast and AT&T combined.

>>52518782
Tbqh, I only noticed the 2kro once or twice when I used it for games.
I mostly played fps games with it for about a year (counter-shit, meme fortress, bf3, etc) and I never had issues, or if I did, it was insignificant enough for me not to notice.
I noticed it in mobas and fixed it by rebinding the key.

/mkg/ getting btfo

>>52519084

>>52516997

First keyboard I've ever owned in over 20 years that broke.

>>52516997
Have you felt any other mechnical switches before or is buckling spring your only experience?

>TFW you get a new keyboard and are now looking for reasons to type..

What a weird problem I'm having. I got an HHKB and I want to use it more to form a better opinion of the topre keyswitches but I can't even find things to write.

I love how snappy the keys are, they bounce back up really fast with quite a bit of pressure.

>>52519448
You don't program?
There's very little reason to buy a fancy keyboard if you don't game or write software.

>>52519505
I'm a sysadmin so I do a decent amount of programming and I also play games pretty frequently, I'm just not using this board for DotA until I get Hasu's controller as I need to remap some things.

>>52519505
But having a fancy keyboard contributes to half the fun of shitposting

>>52519505
>There's very little reason to buy a fancy keyboard if you don't game or write software.
god forbid someone spend a little extra money on something because it's nice.
>There's very little reason to buy a fancy car if you don't track it or hit the touge
>There's very little reason to buy a fancy house if you don't have a big family
>There's very little reason to buy a fancy jacket if you aren't a runway model or an eskimo
by the way, there's no reason to buy a mechanical keyboard even if you do write or program. mechanical keyboards do little, or in some cases, nothing, that a rubberdome from best buy can't do

>>52519646
>There's very little reason to buy a fancy car if you don't track it or hit the touge
>There's very little reason to buy a fancy house if you don't have a big family
>There's very little reason to buy a fancy jacket if you aren't a runway model or an eskimo
These are all true.

>>52519672
so 60% of the population should live in shipping containers and ride bicycles. it's a good thing you'll never be in a position where you make important decisions.

>>52519705
Actually 60% of the population riding bicycles would be great. Cars are shitty for getting around in urban areas anyway.

>>52519725
spotted in european

>>52519810
No my attitude stems from my bitterness of living in America where not owning a car is made artificially difficult because our entire lives surround them.

>>52519840
then just get a car, faggot. or move to a big city with a big public transportation system

>>52519840
>artificially difficult
This isn't really surprising, US is bigger than all of europe.
If you really want to live comfortably without owning a car, live in a big city where car ownership is more trouble than it's worth.

>>52519879
I'd rather not spend money on something I don't enjoy. That applied to big cities and cars. I can get by without either, it's just more annoying than it should.

>>52519914
>I'd rather not spend money on something I don't enjoy.
oooohh, ok, i get it now
i didn't realize you were a woman. nevermind what i was saying.

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>>52511456
Two questions. Where did you get the plate and where did you get those caps? Looks beautiful.

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who rubberdome here

Do good deals ever come on Massdrop?

I've heard some decent mechanicals have come across on it for around $50 or so

>>52520277
you don't go to massdrop for deals. the prices are usually barely lower than anywhere else. the only reason to buy from massdrop is for rare/exclusive stuff.

Jesus Christ getting artisan Topre keycaps as a European is a fucking pain in the ass.

Would I regret getting a board with kalih switches as my first mechanical?

>>52520362
Kailh browns > mx browns
Everything else they make is shit though

>>52517551
it's second-hand

>>52520362
There's really no difference between Kailh and Cherry. Especially as someone without experience with either, you'd not be able to tell one from the other. Really, the only notable problem with Kailhs are the lower QC standards means you'll get a wider range of discrepancies in actuation force between switches. This is typically to be expected with any keyboard that uses springs, and odds are good you won't really be able to tell the difference between a 50g switch and the 60g one next to it unless you were trying to pay attention to it. Linear Kailhs are smoother than their Cherry MX equivalents, too, which is nice. The clicky switches are about the same, in terms of function to Cherry MX, there's hardly a difference; I prefer Cherry MX Blue's click.

>>52520415
All Browns are shit, mate. Non-clicky tactiles are garbage.

>>52520066
not him but looks like there's no plate, just pcb mount
caps could be could be a modified this https://github.com/getclacking/aek-ii-keycap-project idk tho

why are ugly RGB backlit keyboards cheaper than non-backlit models?

Why are ugly gamer boards much cheaper than plain boards?

>>52520626
If it's such a problem for you just disable LED.
I personally don't mind backlighting

Also, gaymer stuff is typically cheaper because it's produced in higher quantities for a typically larger consumer base

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>>52511405

>>52517709

No problem.

Soldering is so simple that anyone can really to it if they are just shown how.

Is it autistic to carry around a mechanical keyboard along with your laptop?

>>52520785
not really
post pics

>>52520785
absolutely

>>52516219
What the fuck is this? Why are there four space bars?

>>52520833
it's clearly a blister pack that holds keys in the arrangement of a keyboard

>>52520833
it's obviously one's 6.25u and one's 7u, and one in each color
couldn't figure that out on your own?

>>52520912
>>52520921
Well, I feel like a dumbass. The logo in the upper right made me think it was an actual keyboard. I knew something was fucky when it was clear and there was no PCB.

>>52519935
Laughing way to hard at this, it's actually, quite possibly, true.

>>52511405
what keyboard is that in the OP? cost? name?

>>52521034
looks like some kind of korean custom, dunno why it has two enter keys

>>52520446
Supposedly; cherry has a textured feel while k's are smoother, depends on preference.
I personally like texture.

Can anyone help me figure out what the best full rgb keyboard is for around 150 dollars?

>>52521073
>textured
yeah if you count gritty sandpaper as a texture

>>52521085

May not be the best, but just missed out on the Ducky Shine 5 (MX Brown) @ NCIXUS for $139 + possible $10 off for new customer. Had to bitch about getting charged for free shipping, was like $130. Similar deal for RGB Strafe, but it's a MX Silent and at Best Buy.

>>52521150
Not even, I'm using some right now.
I take it you fell for the membrane meem?

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Anyone got/getting the VA68?
>68 keys, 60% size but with arrow keys, and all completely standard sizes for use with any keycap set
>aluminum case
>pbt caps
>gateron switches
That pricetag is heavy, though.

>>52521320
>VA68
its basically the magicforce keyboard with a better font

>>52521301
anyone who's ever compared cherry to kailh to gateron to alps/matias will tell you that cherry mx switches have a distinct gritty feel to them.

>>52521320
the font on that keyboard looks terrible. esp on the delete key

>>52521320
I don't understand how people live without F keys. I use mine all of the time.

I mean, I guess if I were a NEET who watches anime all day and my computer was merely a device to watch videos and browse the web, I could get away without F keys, but anyway...

I got once of these 70% china boards:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ajazz-AK33-metal-suspended-backlit-gaming-mechanical-keyboard-buttons-no-red-82-/111837667080

Love it, works great, and isn't retardedly expensive.

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>>52521338
It's the same layout, yeah.

>>52521358
Seems about average to me. It's not the best ever but it's more than passable, compared to what some other boards ship with, plus there's a front-etched keycap option instead of the dyesub.

>>52521398
There's a F-key toggle switch, and the F keys can be used at any time by just holding Fn and pushing a key. It's not like it doesn't have function keys at all.

>>52521034
>>52521058
It's the original keyboard for the 128k Macintosh. Item of note, notice there's no cursor control keys; allegedly to force developers and users to use the mouse since at the time it was a pretty "new" interface paradigm.

No idea why there's a separate enter key. I also now notice there's no control key.

>>52521341
Odd; I've been using keyboards sense the 80's and sitting here on Cherry, I'm getting a slight plastic texture, no sandpaper grinding or sand in general.
Define anybody?

>>52520325
Where do you go for deals? I just want a good compact keyboard with red switches for around 50-60 USD

>>52521398
>I mean, I guess if I were a NEET who watches anime all day and my computer was merely a device to watch videos and browse the web, I could get away without F keys, but anyway...

Shut the fuck up dude.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

What are F keys for aside from switching TTYs in linux?

>>52521341
I should also note, I think I'm more of an alps person, so it's not like I'm doing the "hurdurr cherry good because I have!" thing, It's just It's not what I've experienced, and the only place that has said sand seems to be 4 chan.
Sorry for posting to you twice.

>>52521445
oh fuck i didn't know i was dealing with a oldfag. since grandpa here has been using keyboards "sense" a half a decade ago, clearly his opinion is objectively true
i mean, you can google "cherry mx gritty" and only nineteen fucking thousand results turn up, but it must just be me making shit up because i'm a dumb punk kid on the 4chins

>>52521341
Their linears do. I notice grit on both reds and linear grays produced recently, but nothing on clears nor blues.

>>52521513
Not once have you said "I" as in you're rereading what people say and are not saying you have experience with it.
but you know, attacking thee person rather than the info is better right?
I'm sure you'll be taken seriously then.

>>52521556
>Not once have you said "I"
that's the most particular shit you could've come up with
"I" can say anything "I" want to, it's the internet. if you go to court and the judge goes "this girl says you raped her" and you go " "I" didn't though", guess what you're going to jail real quick. you already have the preconceived notion that you're right to begin with, so if i'd used personal experience (which should have been understood from my having developed and stated my opinion in the first place, given that i was able to state one switch from feeling different than another) it wouldn't have mattered, so it's more persuasive for me to use not only my own experience and opinion, but also the thousands of others available from a google search
also, learn to spell, goddamn

>>52521640
You're throwing a bitch fit over some saying "I've used them and it's not what happen with me"
Not once did you say "I've used them and they did" you said "go look online"
Spelling is Keybounce driveling me up a goddamn wall[E] haha

I think everything has gone to far to shit for this to ever become productive.

>>52521788
>"I've used them and it's not what happen with me"
because you're wrong. they objectively feel gritty in comparison to gateron or kailh. it's a proven fact, replicated by many different people. that they don't feel gritty to you is due wholly to your own ignorance, which i would guess is mostly the result having never used more than one mechanical keyboard (if any at all ever)

>>52521861
Kailh is superior to Cherry MX?
What?

I've used my friend's razer blackwidow(I think that's what it's called) with the clicky Kailh switches and it's nice but I love my MX Blues.

>>52521888
>Kailh is superior to Cherry MX?
find in my post where i said that
don't worry, i'll wait

>>52521936
>they objectively feel gritty in comparison to gateron or kailh
Which fucking switch are you talking about? I assumed it was Cherry because like 3 posts ago the other guy mentions Cherry.
No need to be a dick just because we're on a discrete Pajeet sanitation education board.

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Can you all stop arguing, agree that this is the best switch, and move on?

>>52521973
cherry mx switches do feel gritty but that hardly makes them better or worse
it's not like if you have two cars and one has better leather seats than the other, it's automatically the better car
but in this case, cherry mx switches have shitty, gritty sandpapery leather seats

>>52522030
I hear Topre is pretty banging though. Don't wanna drop 200+ on a keyboard so I'll stick to my CM quickfire..for now.
>>52522059
So you were mentioning Cherry Mx then?
Well I guess I proved my point.
With the Browns? I'll have to agree with you. Even the clears have a slight amount of grit. The blues are as clear as the sky though
Haaaa, get it

I'll stop now

>>52522083
>Well I guess I proved my point.
if you think you even made a point, then you're the only one who does

How are Greetech Red switches?

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Friendly reminder that pbt spacebars don't shine and sound better.

is it possible to get a fairly decent mechanical for cheap from /r/mechmarket? Like a decent one for $50?

>>52522208
>tfw kinda want PBT caps but my special snowflake capset is ABS
I mean, I guess I could have a display keyboard.

>>52522242
No. Stop asking.

This is not a cheap hobby.

There is no thinkpad or casio of keyboards.

>>52522283
>NO! YOU HAVE TO SPEND AS MUCH MONEY AS I DID OTHERWISE MY INVESTMENT WILL HAVE BEEN A WASTE OF MONEY!!!!

>>52522242
Yes its possible, don't listen to salty niggers like >>52522283
If you're wanting something brand new though, you're probably not going to find much.
But there are plenty of used keyboards in great condition for $50 and less.
Just do some research.

>>52522303
>>52522327
He will buy crap, have a bad experience for his money (which are a lot to him), and come back here to tell us we made him fall for a stupid meme.

Congrats

>>52522303
he's not wrong. even second hand keyboards are rarely cheap. mechanical keyboards are not something someone should be looking into if price is their primary concern.
it's mostly for the protection of the buyer, really. if you come into this with money as the first object, you can only be disappointed.
>ugh i payed $60 for this? fugg i fell for the mech meme
mechanical keyboards should be purchased exclusively by people who's first and foremost priority is getting a good keyboard, not a cheap one.

>>52522327
thanks, I just want something decent that's used, that later I can put keycaps on later

is mechmarket a good place to look and ask? Are there any red flags to stay away from? Certain switch brands? Alibaba?

>>52522376
>>52522381
thanks for admitting that mechanicals are largely a waste of money guys
you're really doing your general a service

>>52522399
>thanks for admitting that mechanicals are largely a waste of money
only a fool would argue that they aren't. some will go "oh but muh durability and longevity" but i'm over $200 in this board, i could've got 20 $10 boards from walmart that, combined, would probably last longer, and at the end of the day, it's still just a piece of plastic with buttons on it.

but life ain't always about money, kid. you'll learn that some day. some things are worth paying extra for.

>>52522381
>>52522376
>>52522283
I approach pretty much every purchase in this manner. They're nothing wrong with me wanting to control my budget.

They're nice for coders and gamers, but I'd hardly call it a hobby.. I'm not interested in collecting them like some people here are (nothing wrong with that, I know groups who collects arcade sticks)

>>52522426
stop showing your ass.

>>52522390
>mechmarket
Never been. But im sure its a "decent" place to start. Check out https://deskthority.net/wiki/Category:List_of_all_keyboard_switches and bounce around and see if anything interests you. Look up some youtube videos of them and get a good starting point. Cherry and alps are going to give you the most customization options as far as key caps go with cherry being #1

>>52522466
is this some gay person lingo i'm not understanding?

Hello I just lined up an office job. Since avoiding typos is important and I am autistic I need to bringa mechanical keyboard that won't annoy others. I usually use a unicomp model m and quite like it. Any suggestions?

>>52522552
ctrl+f, search "quiet" in this thread.

>>52522552
topre or a nice linear switch would be quiet
go for a brown if you want a cherry thats tactile and quiet, i think grey is the heavier version too

>>52522508
It pretty-much means "stop acting like a faggot" in nicer terms

>>52522208
If matt3o would fucking run the massdrop again.

how are Greetech Switches? Anyone have experience with them?

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>>52522552
I use topre with plastic plate and people are happy around me.
Topre with metal plate is less pleasant tho.

Also your desk will play a big role so consider a mousepad or a towel under the keyboard.

>>52521320
>That comic sans

Code keyboard is live at 129$ on lagdrop

Please don't fall for the meme

>tfw want to buy a 60% for my laptop but I'm poor

>>52521513

Haha. Cherry mx... Gritty... Hah. You should try more vintage switces. Unless cherry a new batches are terrible that's a silly statement. There's much worse out there.

>>52520066
I got the plate from a guy on geekhack who built something quite similar previously. I contacted him and he got a plate made for himself and for me.

The caps and switches are from an old apple extended keyboard II.

>>52523344

I hear some of the Cherry molds are getting old and having QC issues.

Blues are supposed to be the worst apparently.

Anyone know what kind of springs are compatible with cherry mx?

I mean if I want to try and replace with like a 200g one?

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hurry up and reach bump limit already, I got a new pic for next OP

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>>52522030

Tru dat

>>52522552

Topre board with Hypersphere's Type S silencers.

Just installed some on my HHKB and it is virtually silent save for some squeaking from the spacebar

>>52520691

Cute. I really like the old apple keyboards. Especially that one.

NEW THREAD

>>52525305
>>52525305
>>52525305