/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread

What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

We now have an entry in the install Gentoo wiki!
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux

>>52229846

>>52229938
sudo apt-get install compiz

compiz --replace

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>Good guy OP stops recommending Debian to absolute beginners

good job

So I think I may have done something wrong

First Arch install, marked out 4 partitions (boot, root, swap, /home), but when I launched the OS, it looks like everything was installed on the root partition. Is there any way to move things smoothly now that the OS is installed?

>>52229995
You did mount them properly, didn't you?

>>52229995
post lsblk output screenshot
and content of /etc/fstab

>>52229957
it's not there dude

How do I use my encrypted partitions after installing a distro? Whenever I did that, I was greeted with a black screen and didn't really know what to do.

>>52229938
>>52229846
Best option is to use compton because it doesn't suck. Compiz and mutter are pretty bloaty.

It's been ages since I tried compiz with MATE but I remember a ton of stuff (especially keyboard shortcuts) didn't work. I'll look into mutter, though, because I remember compiz doing something similar at one point and I fixed it (window bars not appearing).

>>52229696
(I am the guy who posted >>52229598 )
Yeah, I used to hang out on desktop threads and post that pic, months ago. People hated my guts when I said that ricing was pointless and just cripples productivity.

(I keep the terminal around because it's great when I need to test ncurses programs, which I write a lot of. That amber monochrome screen recently died, but I found a green monochrome one online, and plan to try fixing the amber one in my spare time. If that fails and I decide I like amber more, I'll try swapping the tubes.

>>52229987
No shit. It is not beginner friendly if you want anything to do with prop video drivers or need newer packages

>>52229987
Could be a different OP.
Ubuntu is worse.

Also this one makes no specific distro recommendation.

>>52229995
>tried installing Arch
Might have found your problem, if this is your first linux install.

>>52230047
debian testing/unstable have new programs.
proprietary video drivers were easy to install for me (GTX 750 TI)

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>>52230047
Then why the fuck was it part of every /flt/ of the previous year?

>>52230060
>Could be a different OP.
unlikely
>Ubuntu is worse.
no its not, not for beginners

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INSTALL GENTOO

>>52230118
>friendly reminder
back to
>>>/tumblr/

>be windows babby, what website could be good for me
>facebook: no
>9gag: no
>reddit: no
>steam: no
>/v/: no
>/g/, linux thread: perfect

>>52230060
>tried installing Arch
>Might have found your problem, if this is your first linux install.
My first Linux installation was Gentoo. I'm posting from it now.

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>>52230126
>>52230138
just stop giving him attention.
He's posting it everyday only because you all are buttblasted about it.

sage

>>52230126
>>52230138
Every thread people are falling for this bait.
What the hell.

So oldfag who used Linux back in the day reading up on it again. So if I have 32GB RAM in my machine and an SSD, do I still need a swap partition?

>>52229909
I have updated the OP on the wiki.

>>52230118
>not just linking to the entire thing
same guy talks just as much shit about windows, he doesn't think windows is ready for the desktop either lol

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>>52230158
No.

>>52230116
It's awesome WM, isn't it?

>>52230073
I installed Debian on one of my desktops this last fall and I needed to get the nvidia drivers from experimental for the gtx 960 that came out 9 months prior. That's a little ridiculous

Do any linux distros come with proprietary drivers like for the GPU or do I have to download and install them manually?

>>52230158
Depending on your use.
Do you often experience workloads in which you use 25+ GB of ram?

>>52230172
dwm

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>>52230172
dwm, idk why in that picture dont show up

>>52230177
Ubuntu/Mint has the installation pretty straightoforward. It's just a matter of choosing proprietary drivers in settings, confirm and reboot.

>>52230179
Well, in Windows I do, but seeing how neither photoshop neither 3dsmax works on Linux I think I won't be.

>>52230116
>transparent terminal
Nice to know you never did anything productive on your computer friend,
Time well wasted.

>>52230195
>neither photoshop
krita/gimp
>neither 3dsmax
gimp

I wouldn't risk not having swap but whatever

>>52230200
>>52230200
>HURR DURR STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE

/pol/ discusses whether OSS is more libertarian or communist:

>>>/pol/59979059

Better than I would expect; there were only a few cucks arguing against OSS/FOSS.

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>>52230171
stop being butthurt over manjaros popularity

the TL;DR of that argument is that:
>oh my god is not as up to date as arch which is the end of the world

which is fucking stupid and obnoxious
now go home and get your shinebox
with the picture of expired SSL cert you aspie fuck

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>>52229984
>IBM monitor
>not noticing the box underneath it or the separate keyboard that's attached to it

That's a physical terminal. Not a X terminal like the young'ns use nowadays, but a real honest-to-god RS-232 terminal. Back in the days of time sharing computer systems, this is how people accessed a central computer simultaneously and ran programs - via a network of terminals.

It's connected via the serial port of the PC, because the terminal does not have any way to install software on it. The PC sends characters and ASCII escape sequences to it and manipulates the terminal into displaying whatever I tell it to. Great for old text-based games like Zork and early dungeon-crawlers like Rogue, as well as testing CLI application performance (you can set the speed that messages are sent to the terminal at - text can enter at anywhere from 1200 baud (bits per second) to 19200 baud. I discovered a bug in the nano text editor recently when I was using this terminal, where the cursor moved slowly enough that I could watch the entire screen being redrawn whenever I typed a letter. Also, it's useful if my graphics card fails because my CPU doesn't have integrated graphics, and I can still boot and log in using the terminal interface this way.
All modern terminal programs emulate something like this (usually the terminal emulated uses a modified DEC VT100 protocol though).
Pictured: the PCB inside the terminal.

>>52230006
If a layperson can't figure out how to launch a web browser and send an email in 20 minutes, then I'd claim yes. That
s my opinion though, so your views may differ.

>>52230042
debian has systemd by default. It is removeable, though, if you really want to. I keep systemd there but use System V scripts for init.

Debian is pretty secure. Ian, sadly, apparently was not.

>>52230082
>unity doesn't suck
>Amazon doesn't spy on you in ubuntu

>>52230227
>expired SSL
C'mon, that was pretty funny

>>52230216
You can render shit on gimp now? What?

>>52230180
>>52230187
Apparently, awesome is based on it? Didn't know that.
The only thing I know about dwm is that you edit the C source code to extend it. Seems kinda weird, but then again, I'm using awesome, and it specifically requires editing Lua code to configure it, so maybe it's not that different.

>>52230247
>what is blender

>>52230247
blender?

>>52230227
Well, tell that to Allan McRae, the man himself, aka. main ArchLinux dev.

https://www.archlinux.org/people/developers/#allan

>>52230254
To be honest. Configuring DWM is more easy than configuring awesome; the dwm config is literally one file and running make, make install isn't that hard.
Knowing C is a good idea for using dwm, yeah.

>>52230255
Something I have neither will nor time to learn.

>>52230159
Hello, Morpheus.

>>52230225
>all those BUT WHABOUT MUH GAYME arguments
Kek, told you /pol/ is full to the brim with /v/edditors

>>52230242
not really, shit happens and no one really cares
maybe if I had some site of my own and deal with SSL I would have some context or something

but seeing it 2 times a week took any part of funny failure out of it and seemed like someone with real inferiority complex feels threatens by manjaro and just try to over and over and over hammer some point that its terrible.

>>52230265
or tell the nigger who is posting this shit over and over and again
get some fucking new material bozo

>>52230247
Ah fuck me m80 i meant blender, just am istake.

>>52230300
>nigger
fuck off, you austronesian.

>>52230314
>>>/reddit/
This is 4chan, we say faggot and nigger a lot.

>tfw downloading mint

h-here I go...

>>52230326
only a redditor tells someone to go back to reddit

>>52230239
>launch a browser
Easy, as long as he figures out he shoudl right click on an empty space, though I really never use the feature, just Meta+R.
>send an email
Ooh boy... I use Pentadactyl. He's not getting anywhere next hour.
Unless he runs Otter Browser from a menu, I guess. But that technically isn't something I use either, I just installed it as a fallback browser.

>>52230314
Good Mongoloid.

>>52230300
>someone with real inferiority complex feels threatens by manjaro
You seem to be threatened by everything that isn't manjaro

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>>52230314

what is a good linux distro:
>fedora
literal lab rat
>debian
muh old packages, muh too hard
>arch + gentoo
mongoloid meme
>ubuntu derivates (mint, etc) and itself
for new lenoox users

>>52230369
L F S
F
S

>>52230356
try maybe ctrl+f for manjaro in here
who brought it up, the inferiority-complex-manjaro-fag did
most likely you

>>52230369
>what is a good linux distro:
Try everything yourself, then make your choice.

>>52230357
>11
>not 10

Too old.

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>>52230288
>XCB/Xlib are easy and simple to learn to use
What if I told you that X11 is a bitch to program directly, second only to brainfuck programs or the Windows API?
I spent FIVE HOURS trying to get C programs written that would hide the currently focused window and another to unhide the last one hidden.

(here's the progs btw)
C:
http://pastebin.com/RKMq6KbJ

And the bash versions that utilize xdotool for the dirty work, and are much safer:
http://pastebin.com/eHTBmHGw >>52230293
Dammit man, I'm morpheus.

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>>52230239
there's a german anon on /g/ who has a vt220 terminal he bought for pennies online.

I have a his pic running emacs.
I also had a video recording of him starting it up.

But unfortunately lost it
like tears
in rain.

>>52230369
Fedora is a good desktop linux distro.

>>52230383
You went completely off the rails about an image of a blog article. I think we all know who's upset here

>>52230445
Enough anon, that Manjarofag can't argue.

Ubuntu
>please spoonfeed me, ima babby
Fedora
>le hat joke, no packages
Debian
>packages last updated: 1992
Manjaro
>turn back the system clock to fix things TROLOLOL
Arch Linux
>le broken Xorg anime girl face
Gentoo
>greentext is compiling, please wait ...
Antergos, Architect
>LOL look at this babby trying to be an 1337 Arch user!!!!
Kali
>p-please dont hack me
Tails
>being a pedophile

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Is this still applicable nowadays for the most part?
Even if it isn't, is it still worth the read just for adding a few extra inches to my unix beard?

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>>52230445
the guy who posts manjaro stuff whenever he can is obviously

and doe this post seems "of the rails"?
>>52230227

man, you sure are some really sensitive fuck

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>>52230335
>figuring out that there's something invisible somewhere for a layperson
not likely. NEXT

What the fuck is otter browser?

Old screenshot, my browser of choice. Most firefox extensions/addons work or can be made to work by running through a converter script online.

>>52230403
Heh, I run nano. People can tease me for not using emacs or vim, but I like nano a lot. Especially with syntax highlighting on color screens.

Only got one stationary pic of nano on my terminal, though I took a video when reporting that bug. It's from right after the first time I actually got the terminal working properly.

What linux distro should I use people wount insult me for using it?

>>52230491
The only good distto: RHEL

>>52230516
RHEL

>>52230501
>Heh, I run nano. People can tease me for not using emacs or vim, but I like nano a lot.
He ran emacs because I asked him to.

>>52230516
rhel
If anyone says anything just call him a poorfag who can't afford a proper OS.

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>>52230516

Is there a free as in freedom distro based on Arch (muh AUR access)?

>>52230536
>rhel
Never heard of this.

>>52230565
Parabola

>>52230501
>figuring out that there's something invisible somewhere for a layperson
>not likely. NEXT
Hey, clicking a right mouse button on an empty desktop when confused doesn't sound thar farfetched.
Well, the desktop is still basically unusable by anyone who isn't me. And I don't care.
>What the fuck is otter browser?
OSS Opera 12 clone. Trying to rewrite its functionality from scratch on Qt. Works pretty well, actually, also really lightweight. I didn't use it much though, because I'm addicted to pentadactyl.
>Old screenshot, my browser of choice. Most firefox extensions/addons work or can be made to work by running through a converter script online.
Did I get it wrong, or is nano your browser of choice?.

>>52230573
red hat enterprise linux
paid distro

>>52230575
Thank you, will have a look into Parabola then.

If I compile on the same architecture, I can generally do make on 1 distro and make install that on another distro, right?

I've been using Mint for some time on my old PC, but I wanted to change it to something more bleeding-edge that can have as much minimalism as possible. I've been thinking about Arch, since it's fucking lightweight, but if there is something that can be riced just as well, also lightweight, please recommend.
Just something beautiful and minimal, it's all about the looks with anime shit all over desktop.
Specs of old PC: DDR2 2GB, Athlon 64 X2 at 2,2GHz(integrated graphics), 160GB HDD

>>52230587
Yes

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>>52230595
if theres nothing wrong with arch then arch
if you fear installation, try manjaro for few days, it looks decent out of the box and since its arch all the ricing stuff on AUR is available

>>52230633
http://archive.is/JeOLo

>>52229909
After doing an apt-get update, Steam is complaining about lack of direct rendering in OpenGL.

I've done some searching, and it seems that my 32-bit version of OpenGL (steam and all the games being 32-bit) is somehow broken.

jonas@hobbes:~$ ldd /usr/bin/glxinfo 
    linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fff25f83000)
    libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 (0x00007f9f96a50000)
    libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007f9f9671b000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f9f96355000)
    libnvidia-tls.so.346.72 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.346.72 (0x00007f9f96152000)
    libnvidia-glcore.so.346.72 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-glcore.so.346.72 (0x00007f9f93477000)
    libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007f9f93264000)
    libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f9f93060000)
    libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007f9f92e41000)
    /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f9f96dd2000)
    libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007f9f92b3a000)
    libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007f9f92936000)
    libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007f9f92730000)

jonas@hobbes:~$ glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes
    GL_NV_parameter_buffer_object2, GL_NV_path_rendering, 
    GL_NV_path_rendering_shared_edge, GL_NV_pixel_data_range, 
    GL_NV_parameter_buffer_object2, GL_NV_path_rendering, 
    GL_NV_path_rendering_shared_edge, GL_NV_pixel_data_range, 

However, if I do try to load the 32-bit version, something is fubar

jonas@hobbes:~$ env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/ glxinfo | grep rendering
libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)

wat do? I don't want to install the 32-bit nvidia shit from the repos, as I'm using nvidia's own latest release.

>>52230595
Install Gentoo?

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam#OpenGL_not_using_direct_rendering_.2F_Steam_crashes_Xorg

>>52230675
meant to >>52230655

>>52230675
It only states how to check if that's the issue or not, which I've already done.

>>52230655
Try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose?

>>52230655
install windows you gigacuck

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>>52230633
Thanks for the info, also, is there a difference if I use Evolution installer for Arch instead of basic Arch installation?
For the Manjaro, looks are too much like windows, I'm disgusted by it, I use windows on my laptop only because of collage, otherwise I'm constantly on my PC when I'm at home

I'm looking into something that looks like pic related, is it hard to make it looks like that, but anime instead of this pile of crap wallpaper

>>52230695
I feel like a n00b, how do I pass two envvars to env?

>>52230766
>>52230695
Figured it out, doesn't give me any more info just dumps more info and memory/control regs.

>>52230757
>I'm looking into something that looks like pic related
its a wallpaper with terminal
why are people retarded and try to pretend that we know how stuff actually looks on that thing? How does file manager look? Or browser or Qt applications?

>>52230757
Evolution is deprecated. use Architect.

>I'm looking into something that looks like pic related, is it hard to make it looks like that, but anime instead of this pile of crap wallpaper
>>>/desktop/
See >>52229916

>>52230622
Tried to do that, but:

$ sudo make install
Package x11 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `x11.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'x11' found
Package xcomposite was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `xcomposite.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'xcomposite' found
Package xfixes was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `xfixes.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'xfixes' found
Package xdamage was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `xdamage.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'xdamage' found

...etc

Then

$ compton
compton: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I don't understand this .pc file stuff. This pkg-config crap was the reason I opted to build on my Debian system in the first place.

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>>52230015

# /dev/sdb3
UUID=5499b00e-fce6-46bf-985b-f65ded2e0d6c    /             ext4          rw,relatime,data=ordered    0 1

# /dev/sdb2
UUID=51237f89-32ce-4895-bace-03c3a5309fae    /boot         ext4          rw,relatime,data=ordered    0 2

# /dev/sdb6
UUID=2b6c6618-bd6b-4225-ab4d-fdd1727bd35f    /home         ext4          rw,relatime,data=ordered    0 2

# /dev/sdb5
UUID=f0385329-6f15-4261-a9f8-99a28058e2d8    none          swap          defaults      0 0

I feel like I did it right but I can't tell
>>52230060
4th linux, 1st serious install

>>52230969
>boot
>1.6G
bit too much kek
otherwise it looks fine
why are you having doubts?

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>>52230580
Oh, so that's what otter is.

Does it have that old opera feature where you can view a page's source code, edit it, and apply it live to the site? If so, I will get that for a few sites.

Also, no, I forgot to upload the correct screenshot. Did some stupid thing in my brain and was thinking of two things at once.
I wrote that wrong.

Here's the browser of choice.

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>>52230493
Nothing wrong with that, a lot of what I know comes from ancient books. Great fun.

My C book predates C89 (ANSI C) - it's basically an alternative to K&R's book.

I want K&R, but got this free so whatever. It's still a great guide and the author was also a bell labs employee.

>>52230969
parted was being a little shit lol

Actually now that I look at it, my /home folder is the right size. I'm just used to seeing it visually.

Time to rice the shit out of this!

>>52230403
My 3161 cost me $18. Probably could have offered less, but the guy had it marked for $22 at a HAM radio convention and I offered $18. Oh well. I'm happy. Apparently the 3161 was the first item to ever use the 'standard' IBM enhanced keyboard layout, even before PC's started to.

Is there a software way for changing desktop hue, saturation, brightness?

>>52230839
Screw it, I just installed the Fedora 21 version. Thanks Fedora.

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>>52231148

>>52231133
xrandr.

I am not certain on hue, but I know you can set gamma points for red/green/blue separately.

where DEVICE is listed as output from xrandr with no arguments,

xrandr --output <DEVICE> --brightness 1.1

would give you 110% brightness, for example. a DEVICE example is LVDS1 on my intel graphics laptop, or DVI-I-0 on my desktop with an nvidia card.

For gamma:

xrandr --output <DEVICE> --gamma <rGamma>:<gGamma>:<bGamma>

example that sets gamma for all three channels to 90% and sets brightness to 110%:

xrandr --output LVDS1 --brightness 1.1 --gamma 0.9:0.9:0.9

I'll look more into hue.

>>52231148
>I just installed the Fedora 21 version.
It's discontinued.
Fedora supports (current)-1 release until (current)+1 is released

>>52231213
Thanks!

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>>52230401

>>52231277
Is this the kind of hue shift you wanted? This should be a "blue hue shift":

xrandr --output LVDS1 --gamma 1:1:4

If not, maybe some of the source code to redshift helps? http://jonls.dk/redshift/

If that's what you meant, I can look into doing that too.

>>52231234
Thanks, that's good to know. However in this case there's no official compton package, so I just found a F21 RPM on Opensuse's site.
It's not so bad since compton hasn't really been updated for a while (v0.1).

I did find F23 rpm on a Russian site though, but I'd rather avoid that if possible.

Ubuntu or Fedora? What are the key differences for a normal user?

Which distro for learning programming C/C++?

>>52231309
>I did find F23 rpm on a Russian site though, but I'd rather avoid that if possible.
Well, russians actually have quite big 3rd party fedora repositories.

If one the russian site you can download src.rpm you should be safe.

>>52231414
Ubuntu: Good ol' classic apt
Fedora: Disgusting yum/dnf.

>>52231414
different package manager, different packaging policy, different legal approach to nonfree software

you'd knew that if you fucking googled.

>>52231414
ubuntu is debian based and uses apt-get to manage packages, it is one of the most newbie friendly distros (tho if ur gonna go ubuntu, you may aswell go MATE or mint, which are based on ubuntu), fedora is based on red hat and uses the red hat package manager, it is slightly less newb friendly, that being said
>install gentoo

>>52231444
Anything

>>52231448
But anon, KGB.

>>52231472
something that isn't shitty, then. i know my ways around Linux but I don't want to use arch / gentoo / meme stuff.
something that just werks

>>52231469
>tho if ur gonna go ubuntu, you may aswell go MATE or mint
stfu and stop misleading people

there's a reason why ubuntu is much more popular than your obscure ricer distros and it's not because it's babby friendly

>>52231455
>Good ol' classic apt
Yeah, day without fucked dependencies is a wasted day innit.

back in the days of yum, you could argue whether apt or yum is better - yum was dogshit slow which made everything aggravating.

But the speed problem was fixed in dnf, so dnf is a clear winner now.

Safer, more reliable, doesn't fuck up your dependencies, very extensible (copr, system-upgrade).
Also dpkg doesn't use specfiles like rpm, so it belongs to the trash immediately.

daily reminder that apt was the last package manager to introduce package signing - lmao

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>>52231541
It's literally ONLY because it's babby friendly.
There are near to non oldfag linux users running ubuntu for a reason.

>>52231541
>there's a reason why ubuntu is much more popular than your obscure ricer distros and it's not because it's babby friendly
and LTS releases which make the "I updated my system and my proprietary gpu drivers fucked everything" less frequent.

>>52231523
you coult try antegros, its arch (so has massive repos) but with a streamlined graphical install,

>>52231541
neither MATE nor mint are obscure or really ricer distros, but if your so buttmad i guess maybe they could go xubuntu or kubuntu, mint is designed for people used to using windows and MATE is meant for laptops

>there's a reason why ubuntu is much more popular than your obscure ricer distros and it's not because it's babby friendly
do tell...

>>52231578
>There are near to non oldfag linux users running ubuntu for a reason.
Nice delusion you have there m80.
If you seriously think that the "linux oldfags" you've mentioned take pride in fixing broken arch installations everytime they update their system, you're wrong.

>Arch is a meme
>Gentoo is a meme
when will it stop?

>>52231612
Arch breaking at every update is a misleading meme. I bet you never ran Arch before.

>>52231612
i dont get this meme, i do $sudo pacman -Syyu every day and have never broken anything, if there is some major change to the kernel or w/e its on the front page of the absolutely fucking massive and detailed wiki, its really not hard

>>52230225
>tfw /pol/acks are more in favor of FOSS and stallman than /g/ nowadays

>>52230154
s-sauce?

>>52231578
>linux oldfags
>Arch
I've literally never met anyone who wasn't an unemployed neckbeard who ran Arch. My old boss ran Kubuntu.

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>>52231657
from the look of non-weeb desktop threads it would seem that at least an equal, if not larger proportion of /g/ uses wangblows

>>52231693
/desktop thread/ isnt /g/. /g/ is 95% a bunch of consumer whores, running windows, asking for buy advices.

>>52231685
at this point the anti arch/gentoo circlejerk is just as cancerous as the arch/gentoo circlejerk, please stop

>>52231693
both linux desktop threads and windows desktop threads are frequented by the same small group of people who post their shit over and over again ad infinitum.

I've been posting on /g/ for over 2 years already and while I admit to looking at those threads when anything catches my eye, I just posted there once, got little bit of attention and never posted again.

>>52231444
Anything, though debian's been pretty good to me. Just about any linux distro will do though.

>>52231567
>Yeah, day without fucked dependencies is a wasted day innit.
There are occasionally fucked dependencies. I've had it happen once only, when the MATE desktop required systemd due to polkit due to the MATE weather applet. When that happened, I made an empty .deb that 'provided' polkit. Problem solved.

>>52231612
I don't use arch. I use debian. Ubuntu breaks the same ways debian will.

People still target ubuntu because it used to be the uncontested most popular distro. But then it got shitty and sold out to Amazon, and switched to a shittier GUI.

>>52231587
You know what I do? I keep an installer from nvidia in /usr/src, and whenever I upgrade my kernel I go to a teletype (or sometimes use my RS232 terminal because it's COOL), cd to /usr/src, and run the installer. It makes a build for the new kernel and problem solved.

Sometimes the kernel was built on an older version of GCC than the current default, in which case doing, for example:

CC=gcc-4.9 CXX=g++-4.9 ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-xxx.xx.run

fixes it.

Alternately, one could always learn to use DKMS.

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>>52231742
i find it increible that the same people seem to post in every thread, do they not sleep? do they have stored captchas and a script waiting to post riced out weeb openbox configs

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Arch/Gentoo:

- not that easy to install for a complete noob
leads to:
a) people who cant install it and therefore hate it aka circlejerk
b) people who installed it and feel 1337 aka circlejerk
c) people who enjoy their very own custom os, recommending to install it, get insulted because a) and b) made it a "meme"

Feels batman.

>>52231633
I love unstable OSes (I run debian) but getting arch installed with a broadcom wireless card and no ethernet is a misleading meme. I bet you've never tried installing arch on a modern consumer-level (not business or industrial) laptop before. At least Debian offers full installers that don't need internet access during initial installation.

>>52231724
>/g/ is 95% consumer whores running windows asking for buy advices
Never have truer words been spoken.

>>52231777
I used to be here every day, then college kicked me in the nuts for not paying attention to reality.

>>52231777
Saved, the picture will be used as a crusade against desktop threads.

>>52231810
you forgot the people that used it and still don't like it.

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>>52231847

>>52231821
im running arch on a samsung np300e5a laptop, works with no flaws, the laptops are notorious for having a bugged BIOs that caused some to brick when another OS was installed, arch installed with no problem completely smooth

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>>52230154
>Tfw no QT 90's broad to bring me cake and gameboy

>>52231810
>listing Arch and Gentoo in the same breath because "hurr they're both *hard*"

Arch is essentially a stripped-down version of any normal Linux distro. Call it hard if you want, but all you're doing is setting things up yourself and with the terminal as your main point of usage.

Gentoo is similar to Arch, except you build everything and it takes centuries. As I recently learned, the whole point of "lel install gentoo" is that it's time-consuming for very little benefit. You don't even really learn about the system more-so than Arch -- you're just building everything.

>>52231777
>do they not sleep?
I'm afraid most of them are either underage or useless neets

>>52231884
np300e5c*

>>52230154
Oh sweet Jesus

>>52231911
Gentoo is much more than just compiling.

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>>52230154
FUGGG
SOURCE ME PRONTO

>>52231965
Yeah, it's about shit like OpenRC.

Hopefully someone posts a question soon, or we will eat each other.

>>52231911
mostly true
>>52231965
true
>>52231990
as the meme goes, it is about choice, you dont have to install openRC, you can install systemd or some other init system if you want, its really all in your hands

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>>52229909
how do I fix the unaligned characters?
it's Gentoo with Infinality

>>52232087
>or we will eat each other.
r a grill?

>>52232113
does it do this with all fonts?

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>>52232113
szanuj pape to się naprawi

>>52232113
Use regular freetype2
Infinality is deprecated. It is a downgrade from freetype2

The only good thing infinality provided was rgb rendering, which freetype2 provides by default.

>>52232138
>>52232113
kurwa kurwa

>>52230154
Now imagine how people would have reacted to this if the little boy was a girl instead, and the hot chick was a grown adult man....

>>52231682
>>52231969
Season 1, Episode 14 of Picket Fences entitled "Bad Moons Rising".

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>>52232157
Forgot image

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>>52232148
will try, thanks

>>52232155
>>52232138
macie wy w ogóle rozum i godność człowieka?

>>52232157
well yeah because it is a boys fantasy
>wut is power dynamic/gender differences
lets not start this in the /flt/

>>52232192
Imagine the outcry if a grown man standing in a girl's bedroom in nothing but his underwear, holding chocolate cake and a my little pony toy.

>>52232179
>>52232157
go be a butthurt pedophile somewhere else
this thread is about butthurt distro fanboys

>>52232223
yeah because this is generally not considered a fantasy that young girls have and so this would be an imposition and creepy, its clearly implied that the kid loves it. Now wether or not it actually is in some way abuse is debatable, but thats not the issue, surely you can see how it's different

what >>52232243 said

>>52232223
Accept that such is life but don't use it as an argument against SJW or feminists.
There's nothing to gain from it.

Though I am very jealous that it never happened to me when I was a little boy.

>>52232192
That's sexist, there are several men with mental health issues because of things like this. maybe you would be better off on /pol or /b/.

>>52230802
post the info

>>52230154
Kek god damn they didn't give a shit in the 90's.

>>52232317
it is a trope that this is a fantasy, i didnt mean to imply that it was everyones fantasy and this gendered trope probably is harmful, so yeah ill stay here thanks

>>52232290
source?

>>52232377
Sissy Spacek popes two poos in loo

>>52232401
*poops
fucking autocorrect

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>>52232401

>>52232267


>Now wether or not it actually is in some way abuse is debatable, but thats not the issue,
That's exactly the issue

>its clearly implied that the kid loves it.
>surely you can see how it's different
Okay, what if the little boy is gay and there is a grown man. That would still be considered creepy, right?

I mean art that depict little girls are banned from museums***, but this isn't even considered slightly controversial....


*** http://www.tv2.no/a/7590530 (norwegian, I'm sorry)
*** http://www.kjendis.no/2009/10/02/kjendis/kunst/utenriks/brooke_shields/tate_modern/8394636/

Debian sid vs Arch ?

>>52232317
>That's sexist, there are several men with mental health issues because of things like this
This

This happened to one of my childhood friends, and he found it scary and didn't like it at all... He tried to bring it up when we were a bit older, but everyone just laughed at him and said they were jealous etc...

He has massive trust issues with women and he is completely unable to have a normal relationship with anyone. As far as I know, he didn't have sex with anyone ever since and is pretty fucked up.

>>52232487
Debian

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if your linux is so good then why there less than 1% of steam users that are actually using it ?

>>52232475
art depicting little girls certainly is not banned on the whole, both classical and modern art (c.f. jake and dinos chapmans work) are still displayed. It is fucked up though i agree, i im not trying to defend the film as its perpetuating harmful stereotypes about men and boys, the southpark 'Nice' joke does a good job satirizing the imbalance and possible internalised sexism there.

>>52232487
if you have some experience with linux, you will have fun with arch, if you dont have much experience, go debian

>>52232556
apparently 25% of steams catalogue is playable on linux natively now, dunno about the quality of games tho. If you want to do gaming seriously, dual boot or dont use linux

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>all those people arguing about which distro is best
>mfw I installed Arch because I liked its logo the most and it reminded be of Brink which was a good game fuck you

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>>52231847
I'll join you in your conquest. I went to a desktop thread once, the amount of teeth gnashing & mouth foaming when I had a non-riced desktop (though still Linux) was absurd.
>>52231884
Any linux distro with that kernel version would work, then. There's nothing special about Arch.
Does that laptop have a wireless chipset with proprietary firmware and no ethernet port? If not, your point is moot.

>>52231903
I gots a gameboy for you and was born in the 90s, but I'm not particularly qt, not a broad, not even a woman. And the cake is a lie. There is no cake.

Color? Or original?

>>52232290
Not any of those 3, but women and men should be treated the same way. If women can't go topless in public then men shouldn't be able to either.
(I'd hope for the reverse, of course. I like boobs. But women like men's chests too, I've been told, and we're allowed to expose our breasts in public. Just looked this up - In the state I live in (Indiana), it's considered illegal (which is something we share with only the rednecks/hicks in Tennessee and the god-damn Mormons in Utah.

Anyway, women deserve the same rights as me. A lot of that may be because I like boobs, but I don't expect them to actually do it around me. I only think they should know they have the RIGHT to, even if they don't actually act on it. As a man, I don't go shirtless ever, because even I'm a bit self-conscious about my body.

Not an english major and while apparently I'm good at writing I hate to do it. So that's all I'm gonna say for now.

Also, yeah, you should probably remove that webm. This is supposed to be a work-safe board, unfortunately. Thanks though.

>>52232642
Am I the only one seeing a fellatio in that picture?

>>52232642
>mfw I installed Arch because I liked its logo the most
Are you me? thats why i did it at first
99% of distro logos are absolute dogshite

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>>52232673

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>>52232661
see image


>>52232698
looks neat, what is it? Except for >

>>52232475
>I mean art that depict little girls are banned from museums***, but this isn't even considered slightly controversial....

It is if your name happens to be Charles Dodgson.
He took a nude of at least one underage girl. Don't want to be getting myself in trouble, but wikipedia citation 55 on "Lewis Carroll" shows an example of what I mean.

I dunno if he's a pedo, but he is strange, in any case.

>>52232728
https://install-logos.github.io/

>>52232487
Debian.

>>52232598
I have 8 years experience and arch is just too much of a PITA to set up.

Are there any good and up to date guides for vga passthrough with QEMU/vfio on Arch?

>>52232642
...is... is that real?

Where did you see this? looks like a bank, but WHICH ONE? I must know, for great justice.

>>52232794
Follow the same one you'd follow for debian or whatever else.

I almost got it working, too - it worked except that apparently NVIDIA drivers disable themselves if they detect running on a passthrough unless you add some qemu arguments, and I'd already gotten fed up dealing with it.

If you're a n00b, just use linux normally for a bit before hopping over to windoze like that.

>>52232745
Back in the old days, people weren't so fanatical about this. I mean, statutory rape wasn't even a thing until the 70s.

Also, a side note: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape#Female_and_male_statutory_rape

There's also examples, such as that high school teacher that had sex with her student and got off with probation.

What's the best Ubuntu flavor and which has least bloat


Also why is unity so fucking weird?


I keep getting frustrated trying to set up arch and I tried to use Ubuntu but apt-get a shit and I felt like I didn't have enough control AMD there was too much bullshit to remove.


I like arch but I feel like I'm drowning just trying to get sound to work on it. Why is pacman so gr8

What distro to use ;-;

>>52232673
Arch Linux.

It's a badass lightning spiky 'A'. And it makes an archway, meaning you are following the Arch Way.

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What could be the reason why Thunar shows one of my hard drives in the sidebar, but not the others?

>>52232845
lubuntu is v lightweight, there are probably even more lightweight obscure flavours, why is it hard to work on arch?

>>52232673
>suse lizard isnt the best logo
fite me

>>52232845
debian...
Ubuntu is a crappy flavor of debian.

>>52230516
Slackware

>>52232179
fucking lock that sucking slut up for pedophilia put her in a cell with a large lonely black women and several large strap ons

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>>52230516
LFS
>>52232926
can we all agree that gentoo logo is worst logo

>>52230516
None. Someone will always find a way to dislike whatever it is.

>install gentoo

>>52233034
what about the mint logo?

>>52233020
>put her in a cell with a large lonely black women and several large strap ons
I would pay money to watch this.

F-f-for research purposes, of course.

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>>52233034

>>52232377
A foreign film called "A nagy füzet"

ok I seriously cannot figure out how to set up my sound control in openbox, the best I have is volwheel that brings up system sound and a mixer but I don't want to have to hit that every time I want to change the audio levels on my computer, it's also weird because i can use my volume and mute keys in mpv but nothing else...please someone help

>>52233299
install xbindkeys
read amixer manpage (ex: amixer set Master 1+)
create hotkeys

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Honestly If I were to pick one distro for it's logo it would be centos.

Absolulely fucking goat.
Easy to draw, easy to construct,
based on 2 set of 4 squares, one rotated 45 degrees
4 colours.

Looks very professional and is very recognisable both in color and in monochrome.

The only better looking technology-related logo would be IBM (with horizontal stripes).

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Wizards, where is a "About me" info file located in Xubuntu?
I deleted my name and since that moment About me is crashing every time I run it. I figured I changed it manually in a file rather than from GUI back to normal.

>>52233461
are you kidding? thats hideous

>>52233482
i bet you think kali's logo looks great faggot

>>52229909
I thought Arch users still haven't grown any facial hair

>>52233500
well it has dragonz and shit :D

>>52233500
kali is disgusting as well, some of the best logos would probably be debian, void, chakra, and redhat

>>52233478
have u tried ~/.config/
?

>>52229909
I'm trying to get the architect iso to boot, used the pendrivelinux installer.
But it doesn't work, syslinux shows some error on boot.
What software do I use to burn the iso to my usb?

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>>52233672
dd

>>52233698
>dd
>windows

>>52233478
Probably in '/etc/passwd'.

>>52233712
check yoself before u wreck yoself
http://www.chrysocome.net/dd

>>52233739
>>52233698
go fuck yourself with your terminal shit
will Rufus work?

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>>52233672
Thank me later.

>>52233759
why wouldn't it? Why don't you try it out?

>>52233837
trying right now
thats because i used like 3 tools for burning images and none was bootable

>>52233861
had the same problem. unetbootin wouldn't work, neither extraction or dd. Rufus did the job.

>>52233861
my recommendation is to burn the iso to a cd/dvd.
I've had problems booting any linux installation on my laptop from a USB drive since kernel version 4.0 became the standard. Probably because laptop is so fucking old.

However cd/dvd boots right off.
So just went to a shop and bought a spindle of dvds.

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:3

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>>52233946

cd ~/Videos Organized By Last Modified Date
touch * 

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>>52233900
>>52233880
>>52233861
back from my win
it just says "input not supported"
i tried disconnecting my second monitor, still the same

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Does anyone use Spacemacs? What's it like compared to emacs and vim? Does it really just do whatever vim does?

If its so good why isn't everyone using it already?

couldnt you get a linux vm going and use dd with that? dd is the best tool, it just copies the bits over with no wrapping or any nonsense

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>>52229909

I was listening to the end-of-year "best of 2015" on some Leo Laporte podcast. One of the "best of" callers was a young woman who wanted to know what laptop to get to run Arch.

IIRC she was interning at NASA. Everyone on the podcast was having nerdgasms over her, but I found her annoying in that "I'll just mention that I'm a girl who is interested in these things, then wait for the gushing praise to roll in" way.

I imagined her looking like an eel.

>>52233714
>>52233604
cant find it

>>52234150
>>52234150
.files are hidden, try $ls ~/.config

I have been pondering this for some time.
Does anyone why most distros /download page does not include the dd / ddrescue line people have to run?
I mean, when ubuntu mate launched, they had a mirror link, and the ddrescue line ready, so anyone could try their distro.
Now their download page is a bit more bloated, but the initial idea was really great.

To me an ideal download page would include:
link to the .iso
installation guide
maybe a donation link
And if anything else, some cool news about what the user can look forward to as it is downloading.
And when more distro's target sd card based boards like rpi or beagle board, the installation guide is actually important if we want new users to be able to do it.

>>52234041
what do?

alright boys
I have a shitty laptop that I do nothing but write papers on and browse the web with

and its so bad that any heavy webpage bogs it down

what distro should I use

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How accurate is pic related?

>>52234211
what are the specs

>>52234177
no i know that mate,its just that when I am in .config I don't know where to look next, there is nothing named anything similar to accounts or names or username..

>>52234144
nice blogpost faggot

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>>52234208

>>52234237
oh okay, i didnt know your level of competence, it was just a suggestion if you didnt know about the .config, i dont have any experience with that particular program

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>>52234144
o-okay?

>>52234258

Thanks.

Alright so I am a Mac user (inherited not my choice can't sell) and I have virtual box. What do I need a distro n shit. My only Linux experience is a raspberry pi which I dicked around with for five minutes and then fucked it up.

>>52234219
98% accurate

>>52234211
aight boy.
if you've spent FIVE FUCKING MINUTES on google and reading the OP you wouldn't waste anyones time with retarded questions that have been beaten to death a million and one time.

Fuck off and if it's so fucking hard for you to do any fucking research before doing fuck shit just install XP on this thing.

>>52234298
manjaro

>>52234230
celeron 1007U
2gigs ram
like a 300gig ssd

>>52234310
calm down mate you seem a mite upset

>>52234310
I think you missed the friendly part of this thread

>>52234219
linux from scratch for the afterlife? yes.

>>52234144
if she is a woman she can hardly not display that fact if she was calling in, you should be annoyed at the fags gushing over her instead of whinging about it on a cantoneese decoupage message board

>>52234219
all those pics are made primarily with baiting newfags in mind.

LFS has no purpose beyond embedded devices designed to do single task
plan 9 is a research OS
*bsd are useless

SSL/Arch dev rant in 3.. 2.. 1..

>>52234338
I think you missed the "it's not a stupid questions thread" part.

>>52234219
not sure what arch pic is meant to mean, also
>debian and gentoo on same tier
>bsd and LFS on same teir?

other than that accurate

not really very accurate
a lot of the distos in OP's pic are made with very different purposes (e.g. centOS is really only supposed to be a server\workstation distro, but it's being compared mostly to desktop distros).

i actually started out on the more difficult distros (particularly the ultra minimal ones) but migrated to the easier ones once i had shit i needed to get done. i maintain that not many people actually gentoo linux for anything important, they just use it for fun

>>52234298
refer to
>>52234310


sage you fucking niggers

>>52234366
It's OK. I understand your frustration.

>>52234347
>you should be annoyed at the fags gushing over her

Uh... I was?

Her presentation was irritating, though. You could practically hear her beaming in expectation of adulation.

Also, anyone who name-drops Arch but doesn't know how to pick a laptop is a retard or an attention seeking whore.

>>52234328
xubuntu

>>52234370
>not sure what arch pic is meant to mean, also
an edgy faggot in his early teens obiously

>>52234385
Calm your ass down buddy. I just asked for a good distro.

>>52234385
>>52234366
its not healthy to be this mad famil
this isn't my first time, was just asking for suggestions

I could always just install arch again but that would be boring

>>52234041
>>52234267
seriously, just trying to install arch via architect and my monitor says "input not supported"
wtf is this shit, how does one fix it?
Thanks

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>>52234325

>>52234437
>wtf is this shit, how does one fix it?
that's simple.
use a normal distro m80.

>>52234452
have you tried running architect in a VM to see if the iso works correctly?

>>52234437
install antergos, manjaro or normally using beginners guide
architect is for people who know whats going on and just want to go through it faster, not for noobs

>>52234483
meant for
>>52234437

also what >>52234494
said, just get the arch iso and go through the beginners guide with the installation guide open aswell, its not that hard just make sure you read it properly and know whats going on

>>52234556
>>52234494
>>52234483
i have experience using linux, i want to go through it fast. But i never encountered that kind of error before, thats why im asking.

>>52232192
Are you saying girls don't fantasize about sexy adult men?

>>52234601
do you have experience with minimalist distros tho? id be surprised if there arent already arch forum posts at least concerning this, if not fixing it, have you searched the forum? you could also ask the irc, the community is pretty great at responding in a timely manner too so you could make a post

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>>52233759
>Hating on terminal
Don't go for Linux, it's not for you
>>52229909
Daily reminder

>>52230118

pleb here, what program is that in the terminal which lists the OS, kernel, etc?

also, what is best terminal to use that doesn't install gnome BS but is still configurable to a decent degree?

>>52234633
no im not saying that, its not a stereotype /trope though like it is for boys

>>52234727
screenfetch
st is very lightweight, xterm is more robust and more widely used

>>52234726
>posts outdated infotainment on Antergos

>>52234799
thanks m8

Hi all,

i would like to clean up my bashrc file due to the mess with all the aliases i wrote down there etc..
i want a external file which holds all my aliases and functions i use.
i know the command unalias, but this wont remove the alias from the file. instead it just makes it not usable for the current login.

does someone know an easy way to archive this?
can i just delet my bashrc and make a new one wich sources the alias file and has the ps1 prompt?

>>52234836
>Outdated
hahaha

>>52234848
switch to zsh
bam clean rc file

How to change the host file on Lubuntu?
Is it recommended to do so?
Thanks.

>>52234848
just create a new file with the same name and rename the old file, but its better to use zsh as its much much more powerful, i want to run the file ubuntu.foo.bar2, not 1, in zsh i can type ./u.f.2 or just ./uf2 and pressing tab will autocomplete to the correct file

>>52234960
Okay so i can just make a new one, thanks.
>>52234892
>>52234960
Feeling really comfy with bash, so i dont see a reason to switch.
I once tried fish but i kinda messed up with it.

>>52235027
i hate bash once I tried zsh
its the history the most

so I made usb bootable few months back
I want that command fast?

sudo dd
and then its arrow up and I am right there
going only through commands that contain dd

>>52229916
>Mint's packages are ancient
Does this matter? Should I switch go Ubuntu if I like up to date software? I already have so much stuff invested on this hd and have learned much about Linux in the past few months so I don't want to do a fresh install.

>>52234936
just edit it.

remember to make a backup of the file just in case.

and don't remove the lines that are alredy there.

just append everything you want to the end of it

If you need to add one line just do

echo "put your rule here" >> /etc/hosts

single > overwrites the data, double >> appends data to the end of the file, so be careful

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new thread

>>52235071
>>52235071
>>52235071

>>52235093
fuck off back to reddit

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>>52235093
>using the leddit OP
you sneaky motherfucker

>>52234726
That infographic is so much retarded.
Are you that shitty apps guy?

>>52231633
Everything is a meme around here. The concept is completely useless.

>>52232873
arch linux

>>52229909
I asked this last thread and didn't get much...

I've got a currently blank external 1TB drive (shitty Seagate, but USB 3.0), with it I want to the following:
1) Backup all my current files to it (the shit currently on the windows machine).
2) Encrypt the drive.
3) Install Mint onto it, configured somehow to be able to boot on pretty much any computer I want (I plan to carry the drive with me most of the time).

What I'm asking is the following:
1) Any tips?
2) Is there any order that I must do the above steps in?