/fat/ "it was on page 10 so close enough" edition

>tfw losing weight so I can be a cute girl

my car battery is dead and i have no food in the house and the market closes in 5 minutes so im going to order a pizza and wings

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anyone 25+ trying to slim down?

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>>42122049
I turn 26 in October

>>42122049
32 here

down 40lbs so far

>>42122058
I turn 25 in october

>>42122049
Yes, someone asked this a few threads ago. 31, 19kg down in 3 months.

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>>42121888
>tfw the ovens

>>42122058
I also turn 26 in October

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>weighed 263 on Sunday
>was 266 this morning

God dammit I know it's just water but it's fucking infuriating

>>42122084
33 here

>>42122080
kek

>>42122080
Will I lose weight in the ovens

>>42122049
27

>>42122095
why are you weighing so often? I only weigh myself with a minimum of 7 days difference, it's a one way ticket to discouragement city otherwise.

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>>42122103
It's safe to say yes.

>>42122113
I don't know I just can't help myself. I assume some of it has to do with lack of sleep. I only sleep like 3-4 hours on my work days and then 8-10 on my days off. Usually don't see progress unless I get those 8-10 hours.

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Gotta make it

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>>42122049
18 here
Thank god I decided to change before I reached that age

>>42122157
>smug anime girl

Too bad losing weight at a young age won't make you less of a faggot.

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>>42122154
Fat Wojaks are the main reason I come here.

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CONFESS

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>>42122168
True

>>42122211
underage b& inc

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>>42122180
pint of halo top instead of protein shake before gym, two plain chicken bacon sandwiches after. Didnt fuck any of my macros or daily calorie goal so I feel zero remorse.

Before I decided to lose weight and such I would almost always got tired even when I was just lazing around. Currently I don't feel like that at all even when at a deficit and running 5 days a week and being more active in general. is it because I've lost almost 100 pounds and it's just a fat thing or what?

>>42122180
I have nothing to confess. I've been dieting for 2 months now and haven't cheated a single day. Down 40 pounds too.

>>42122242

You don't have to confess if you didn't fuck up your macros OR blow your TDEE you dumb dumb.

Doing both those things is literally just called "a successful diet.

>>42121924
i found some frozen chicken and a head of broccoli. going to have that + some stuffing as my 1 meal today, since the eggs i was supposed to have for breakfast were bad

i'm gonna make it

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>>42122266
Damn you right

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>perineum hurts after fapping

Is it the end?

>>42122180
I only reach my protein macros maybe twice a week. I usually go over my carb macros every day

I also consume 1200 calories a day average

>>42122242
If you feel no remorse you aren't confessing anything.

>>42122266
While true, a genuine loss of self control could still be confession worthy. I hadn't had potatoes in months and I impulse bought a small container of potato salad. I only ate half and didn't go over my TDEE or anywhere close to it, but still. They are a dangerous food for me in more ways than one.

>>42122113

weighing yourself everyday when you're that fat is fine because you basically lose weight everyday it's nice to see.

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Does it look like the skin on my abdomen is getting any tighter? I lost 90 pounds in 5 months (between January 3rd 2017 and May 24th 2017) and I was left with a bit of loose skin. I've been maintaining since the end of May while doing crunches and situps and as of two days ago I just began a slow, clean bulk.

(I'm 6 feet, 190 lbs, 20 years old)

>>42122323
Did you not pay an attention to the conversation?

That just isn't true, that's the whole point.

When I weighed in every two of three weeks my progress was excellent. When I weighed in every day after joining the gym I would be going up and down constantly even though I was consistent.

Now I'm aiming for once a week and it's more encouraging.

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>>42122329
wew I'm going to look like this too when I get down to 190.

>>42122180
ate a bag of tims jalapeno chips and pretended it didn't happen.

Eating less tommorrow shlould equalize things, yeah?

>>42122329

Loose skin doesn't get "tighter" significantly. You have lost the elasticity in your skin and you will require surgery if you wish to get rid of it

>>42122359
that doesn't seem to be what the doctor said in regards to younger people

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>>42122359

>27 years old
>Lost almost 60 lbs
>Have almost that exact same abdomen as pic except that I have upper abs but can't get lower abs despite constant core work and a cut

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>>42122329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNzZod_d18A
i think this is the vid rhonda talks about autophagy
watch the vid and google autophagy

>>42122147
>>42122323

if you are weighing yourself everyday you're misleading yourself one way or another. Casually weighing yourself at home isn't an accurate measurement and I only use it as a way to gauge generally how progress is going.

Sometimes the scales say I've lost 5 pounds in a week and sometimes they say I've lost like 0.5 despite eating within the calorie limits. I know that as long as I'm sticking to the diet that I will get the results I want.

>>42122180
I fell completely off the wagon and undid 3 months of progress from the start of the year in the last 4 months.

Tfw could have reached my goal already had I stayed in course.

It wasn't worth it bros :(

>>42122049

26. Started Keto on Saturday this week. Already lost 7 pounds. Gotta lose about 50 so it's cool to have made ~15% of my progress in a week. I know the rest will be much more difficult and slow though.

>>42122113

Not always true.

Last weekend I had a ton of beer and ribs and nasty shit like that. Wendy's fries and a coke even. Monday I weighed 315.2 ate on my usual cut and weighed myself yesterday morning at 309. It was nice to see I didn't fuck up so bad.

As a side note, is it possible to consume, but shit out calories before your body uses them? I don't know how else to explain my weight dropping like that.

>>42122345
>>42122453

Idk dudes when I was 275-200 I would see a change downward or a plateau of the day before everytime I stepped on the scale in the morning. It was always a nice motivation for me and I liked putting in the new numbers into mfp.
I didn't get too hung up or obsessed. Just before I popped in the shower after i used the toilet I would step on and take a peak and just about every time it was good news. You're right in saying sticking to the diet will get you the results you like but I mean stepping on the scale everyday isn't going to kill you and it always brought me some comfort.

>>42122773
6lbs is well within normal day to day body weight variance.

>>42122049
27. Lost 120.

How much does sleep matter for fat loss?

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>>42122049

29 here, 60 pounds down since late March.

>>42122845

Even after way over consuming calories for a weekend? I hope when I weigh in on Friday my weight is below 312 at least

>>42122359
you stupid nigger did you bother looking at the image?

it looks like his gut overhang has come down 50% in a month

>>42122892

The more time you spend sleeping the less time you are able to shove food in your mouth..

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I think he's here right now

>>42122329
>42122329

Honestly you should lose more weight. 90 lbs in 5 months is impressive though.

My gut has a similar...morphology...but doesn't get loose skin and yours looks like it's maybe ~20% from loose skin, but mostly that you haven't lost enough weight yet.

>>42122180
Had poutine and a chocolate ice cream bar today. The poutine wasn't worth but the ice cream bar was good.

>>42123217
There's literally no point in losing more weight if it just ends up looking like this

I'm going to clean bulk until it goes away

@Apple

Starting Weight -
290
Current Weight -
264

>>42122049
26
Turning 27 in September

I've gone from 225 to 219.
At what point should I recalculate my tdee for apps like MyFitnessPal?

>>42122689
Oh, nice. What are your meal plans like? For me it's easy to cut out a lot of carbs - most of them are bland as fuck - but it's hard sticking to it.

>>42123270
I'm saying it *will* get better if you lose the weight though. You're saying it will stay the same.

190 lbs is a lot for a 6 ft dyel. Looking at your frame I'd say you should weigh 160-170 if you actually want to get rid of that stomach.

>>42123281
Weigh in is on Friday but I like the eagerness, kiddo.

>>42122307
See a doctor nigga

>>42123322
I barely post around here so wasn't aware of the rules. I'll keep it in mind

>>42123364
Given you joined a contest and I post the rules every time I add people to said contest you should be well aware of them.

But I'll give you a pass considering you figured it out before you failed to weigh in on a Friday. I'll just give you a bit of attitude because you made my left eye twitch.

>>42123317
That skin on the bottom isn't fat. Losing another 20-30 pounds will just make it look worse.

>>42123396
Yes, some of it probably is. What people call loose skin is often skin with fat still clinging to it, making it sag.

>>42122180
Had 4 peices of rye bread with real butter from my uncles farm, soooooo fucking goood ;___;

>>42123409
I think I like my way of fixing it better. Adding muscle is a lot better than ending up looking like a skeleton.

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>>42121877
Give me one good reason why I won't lose weight if I eat nothing but plain McDonald's hamburgers for 2 months with 35 minutes of cardio and 15 minutes of HIIT.

>>42123671
A calorie isn't a calorie, but you're basically right. You just will have other bodily issues.

Oh. And can't you cut out the cardio and add in more HIIT instead?

>>42123671
You'll lose weight but you'll feel like shit.

>>42123684
For some reason I wrote cardio instead of weight lifting which is what I actually meant.

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>>42121877
How do I stop being fat?
Heres my current body stats

>>42123767
why do you have to beg attention from fatties ?

>>42122689
I started keto about two and a half weeks ago. I lost 12 lbs in the first two weeks. It's starting to slow down now but it's still going down each day, not fluctuating.

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>>42122049
From 25>>>26

Glad I turned my shit around even if I am getting old

>>42123881
I thought this thread was about getting rid of fat?
I have 14lb of fat I need to get rid of.

How often do you take pictures of yourself for comparison purposes? I've been doing it every 15 pounds.

>>42122180

Had the best damn restaurant chicken quesadilla of my life but I'm 500 calories above what I burned today so fuck my life.

>>42122049
T..thirty seven here. Just trying to get back out there after a divorce. It's been 2 years, but isn't as bad as some make it out to be.

>>42123898

That's pretty quick. I hope I have similar success. Either way it's probably going to take 6 months to a year for me total.

>>42123981

Every 5. Goin' for that G R A D U A L progress.

Age:22
Diet plan:Water fasting\
Weight starting:353
Now:322
7 days in, down 30 pounds, no hunger, no side effects, feel good

weight loss will slow down to around 1.5 pounds a day soon

My lifts in the gym are still are what they were before i started fasting, only can do less reps obviously due to no extra energy

ama

day 4 of psmf
skinnyfat
thinking of binging
pls help should I just listen to scooby and eat at maintenance?

>>42124023
It's awesome that you're using it as a chance to get fit, good luck.

>>42124120
I really don't think it's necessary to water fast when you're at such a high weight.
Your tdee is probably pretty damn high so you could eat a fair amount of calories and still lose weight.
You are at risk of quitting and binge eating if you do something that drastic. When are you planning on stopping the fast?

>>42121877
>>42121877
reminder boys, ((official)) /fat/ discord

https://discord.gg/52MBS
https://discord.gg/52MBS

we dont bite

>>42124185
no plans on quitting ,after day 3/4 you lose your appetite completely. I literally haven't wanted to truly eat in 3 days and itll stay that way until your body runs out of fat stores and or nutrients to use in which your body will go into a state called "true hunger" Its a bit sign when fasting to start eating again if you regain your appetite after the first 3/4 days.


I plan to for 3 weeks, up to a max of 4 because after that ill honestly get a bit scared haha.

After the fast i ease my digestive system back into eat with jucies/broths and watermelon on first day then 2nd and 3rd day soft veggies and fruits and day 4 grains and day 5 proteins into a normal diet.

Day 6 ill eat what i want i have plans ot have dinner with friends and day 7 i go back into ketosis where ill stay for a few weeks before starting my fast again for another 2-3 weeks after ive eaten plenty of fruits n veggies


This is honestly the first diet that ive been able ot stick with in last 6 months and im really happy, every day im dropping 3, 4, ,5 pounds

itll slow down to 1-2 pounds a day soon but i love it

>>42122180
I had a steak chipotle burrito. Forgive me father

>>42122113
>it's a one way ticket to discouragement city

Not true if you steadily cut and understand that there will be occasional days where you go up a little for seemingly no reason. Just be aware of what you're eating and usually the scale will reflect your diet accurately.

>>42123671
1. Food tastes better on a cut.
2. Why the FUCK would you want to eat nothing but plain mcdonalds hamburgers? Mcdonalds isn't even that fucking food m8. Not to mention plain hamburger are probably the worst menu item.

Eat some soup, chicken, asparagus, broccoli, eggs, veggie burgers, salad, or fucking anything else.

>>42124267
Should be ok so long as you eat nothing else today.

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>>42121888
me too a-anon

>>42122049
32 senpai.

Lost 18 lbs in the past 6 weeks now.

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>>42124487
Another trip fag, the vegan one was just not bad enough
the board went from Zyzz followers to a faggot nesting ground

>>42122180
I ate a fucking Larabar. 220 calories, holy shit. Might as well be fucking candy.

>>42122329
>skin
nigga that shit is still a sack of fat, you ain't done yet

Calories in vs calories out, right?

So how is it after a week of eating at 1500 (not fucking around either i mean i track every fucking gram of food) when my TDEE is some 2500...

Walking some 15k steps a day
Couch to 5 k every other day (week 3)
Lifting every other day to that

How is it i haven't lost so much as 1/4 of a lb?

Whats the science behind this because i was sort of fucking dumbfounded when i stood on the

>>42124628
Missing alot of info, how tall are you? What's your weight? What kind of food do you eat? Calorie isn't always just a calorie. There's a reason why people count macros

>>42124204
Link expired my dude

>>42124661

6'2"
255lbs
Eating "clean" meats, veg, salads, porridge oats. Drinking some minimum 3 ltrs water a day. No caffeine.

>>42124700
I'd give it another week and see if its just a weird occurence, but if you don't see a change next week, maybe consider upping the intensity of your exercises

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>>42124598
>tripfag

>>42122180
Ate 3.5 slices of Little Caesars today, gonna go run 4 miles now.

>>42124700
More water.

Maybe you're eating more than you think you are.

Maybe you're not eating enough.

Check your measurements. If you're not measuring more than your weight, you're doing it wrong.

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Time for the fat guy to bench!

>inb4 f, you gonna die!

>>42124628
Sometimes weight does some weird things when you first start working out. It has to adjust to it. If after the next week you haven't lost anything then you should be concerned. Just make sure you're actually eating the calories you think you are, and not accidentally getting some anywhere

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>>42124773
On a side note. Is this worth $112?

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Moving on to fat man deadlifts! 110 pound personal record assuming I don't pull a disc!

>>42124773
>>42124869
We get it. You are using old dangerous poverty shit. We don't need the play by play. Just finish it and tell the story, if you want.

>>42124843
I literally just got this one and put it together yesterday
I think it's great

>>42124904
one thing to note, if you are short you might not be able to benchpress with it
because the lowest setting for the uprights is very high
that's where I put it and I'm 5'11"

>>42124916
I'm your same height (king of mallets). How about squats?

>>42124930
King of manlets, damn autocorrect.

>>42124930
can squat with it comfortably, it can go up way higher than it needs to for squats for my height

>>42124962
Okay thanks. I'll buy it.

>>42124661
what kind of dumb shit is this?
1 calorie is always 1 calorie u dumb nigger
eat more than you should u get fat, eat less you lose weight

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>>42122180

I love fat Wojak pope.

Speaking of popes, I listen to this song whenever my motivation is flagging: https://youtu.be/7U9lVjZg-Kg

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>>42124023

how does a thirty seven year old guy end up on 4chan? you would have been way over the average user's age even if you were using the website on the day it was created. hell, you're ten years older than moot himself. how did you even get here?

So I'm going to weigh myself for the first time tomorrow morning. Should I just skip eating today to get the most accurate results?

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>>42123671
>3 different sources of protein
>full dv of macros
>2016 calories for $8

Step it up son.

>eat clean for 2 days
>cave in and eat garbage
>repeat every week

how do i stop especially with chocolate i just cant eat healthy for longer then a couple of days im such a worthless piece of shit.

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>>42125101
Not him, Im thirty five, I was in a im convo with this weirdo from a chatroom who referred me this imageboard, been lurking ever since, I have made at best 8 posts in 11 or so years including this one.

>>42125101

36 here, wife 2 young kids.

4chan is the best casual site on the internet. Prove me wrong

Question for you, what website will you be browsing when you're 37? Epic Dad memes on facebook? Or you'll be so successful in every aspect of your life you'll be at 'da club' every night? 30+ year olds browse the internet mate.

My real and final question is... Why the *fuck* are you wasting your youth on this place?

>>42125282
>I have made at best 8 posts in 11 or so years including this one.
lurk less

My gf is losing a ton of weight so now I'm wondering if I even deserve her since girls around her weight range would never consider going out with me.

What do?

>>42125450
nothing you can do
she's going to ditch you as soon as she has a better option available
I guarantee she's planning on it already

>>42125450

Lose weight with her, work out hard.

Don't become the sadsack fat boyfriend

>>42125450
Love is not about deserving, anon.

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>>42125469
this pretty much

I really fucked up this week. Wat do ?

>>42125690
Keep going!

>>42125693
Thanks. I needed to hear that.

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>>42121382
>>42121536
>>42114487
>>42118200

Hey guys, I'm the original bulk spreadsheet requester from last night's thread.
I'd like to thank the anon who warned me about the fact that it takes less calories to gain a pound of muscle than a pound of fat. I didn't know that and would probably have fucked up
at the start of my bulk right away by eating too much (what sailrabbit would suggest for my ideal gain/week).

So regarding that, I'm going to explain to you guys how I calculated it, but you have to bear with me I am not a hard scientist and I am a girl, so of course my formulations are not correct (albeit I think the formulas are). Please see pic related. If you see any discrepancies in the math or physics of it, please let me know it'll cost me time to figure it out by myself when I am there.

Anyway, my question is this : given the recent knowledge that anon has bestowed upon me, does this formulation sound correct to calculate exactly how much I would need for caloric intake:

in my controlled clean bulk you can see I want a 0.48kg of total mass gain per month (it's as I said a clean bulk and I want to take it slow and monitor progress closely) of which as I said in my predictions, I want a margin of >80% to be muscle and <20% of fat.
So my idea is, based on anon's knowledge that I should eat over my TDEE :
80% of 0.48kg gain monthly as if I would need 1600cal for them.
20% of 0.48kg gain monthly as if I would need 3500cal for them.
Does that make sense? I think that'd be the safe way to get an accurate to redefine caloric intake based on that knowledge.
But this is the furthest my math abilities take me. Can someone tell me the formula (best easily appliable to a calculator) I need to calculate those two numbers? I know how to calculate percentages, but the fact that they are a fraction of a set number in the equation bugs me.
Thank you very much for any further help provided!

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>drinking kefir after doing bodyweight exercises
/fat/ties wish they knew this good feel

>5'10"
>317lbs
>get no exercise other than doing basic thing in a store i work at
>no way of getting to a gym
>did low carb 2 years ago, went from 285 to 235
>stopped
>now i'm at 317
Is there hope for me?

>>42125725
>no way of getting to a gym
Why?

>>42125725
>no way of getting to a gym
Love this meme. Do cardio or something instead because obviously someone your size can't do calisthenics well.

>>42125725
>I've already lost a bunch of weight once
>can I do it again

Yes. Why are you asking us when you know the answer?

>>42125742
I don't have a car/license and the nearest gym is a 30 minute walk down a busy road with no sidewalks
>>42125753
Any cardio you can recommend for someone my size? I'm reading the sticky as we speak, but I'm not very far.
>>42125756
I don't think I have the willpower to do low carb again

>>42125772
>low carb again
fucking meme diet. just eat at a deficit

>>42125725
eat less you dumb shit

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>tfw big penis but a third of it is under fat

Shit

>>42125772
Go for bike rides because if you jog at 317 your knees will think you're Satan.
>I don't think I have the willpower to do low carb again
Eat at -500 deficit from your TDEE
>I'm reading the sticky as we speak, but I'm not very far.
That much is obvious.

>>42125792
My brother in suffering.

>>42125792
Let that motivate you

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>>42122180
i cant force myself to drink coffee without a little bit of milk and sugar

>>42125843
You don't need to drink coffee at all, though. Green tea has some caffeine if that's what you are after

>>42122049
26, down 7kg since may.

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>Ran 32 minutes
Nothing too hard to on the shin, but god am I slow. Only 5k
I'll keep doing long runs to build endurance.

>tfw down roughly 30 pounds
>tfw 5lbs from initial goal weight
>tfw going for 10lbs
>tfw I will be done with cutting for a while in less than 2 months

>>42124220
Did it for 3 weeks. You're gonna get really tired after the second week but it's manageable.

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>>42122049
T-turning 32 in August. Down to 80kg from 90kg.

>>42125941
>done with cutting for a while
>for a while

Not gonna make it

I'm finally keto adapted, but I keep cheating on my calories, I'm not gaining weight but my waist is shrinking, what do?

>>42123935
looks awesome. good job!

>>42125792
Mine is 5 x 5.5 and i weight 265 lbs. Maybe i'll gain 0.1 or 0.2 inch length.

>>42123935
Stats before and after?

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>>42125843
faggot

>>42122180
I fell off the wagon after hitting 99.6kg and just now started to recover like a month later

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>>42124718
He's right about the fag part you attention seeking whore.

>as a child, one tooth of my adult set grows up above another one, instead of coming down to align with others.
>don't know better, just think it'll fix itself
>my mom sees me with my crooked tooth everyday for years. does nothing about it.
>just resign myself to live with it.
>can't smile anymore
>as a result of the pressure applied by the uppper tooth on the lower one, the lower one has developed a small dent which is showing early signs of decay.
>I will probably lose the tooth.
>meanwhile, unbeknownst to my young ignorant self, dental care including full braces treatment is free in my country up until age of 16.
>fastforward to 18, have no money of my own to pay for the now ridiculous braces prices.
> pursue free higher education for a couple years in order to be able to afford it.
>finally complete masters degree this semester.
>somehow my mom seems to care now and tells me my absenteist dad will take me to fix it in cheaper country nearby. They don't understand how hard and expensive it is to get follow-up treatment after installation if you go abroad.
>about to move to another country to live with long term partner in two months.
>no health coverage, prices are even higher
>I can't work yet because of immigration rules on my visa
>we can't afford it until we get health insurance which will take us a good year.
>mfw what could have been a free easy fix turns into thousands of dollars worth of cost, and years of being humiliated because my inconsiderate parents didn't love me enough to take me a couple times to the dentist.

Such is the life of a healthlet. I'll fix it eventually, but I'll always live with contempt at the failure of my parents to fulfill their duties.
Who else here has other physical and medical conditions? I know of a couple anons browsing with pectus excavatum. Let's see the freak circus show, anons.

>>42126079
>he doesn't understand the concept of clean bulking slowly over a long monitored period of time.

Yeah mate, I'd understand your concern for not cutting in a while if your idea of not cutting is dirty bulking like a pig and gaining tens of lbs per month, but I'm not going to do that.
Appreciate the concern though, still gonna make it.

>>42121877
I ATE 6 HOT DOGS TODAY

>>42122180
6 HOTDOGS

>>42122180
I ate like a pig for a couple of days. Gained 2kg. Been on the grind again for a week now father.

>>42126191
post 'em

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>>42125366
My nightmare
>memes become a thing of the past
>Newest generation of kids make their own version of "memes"
>us old fags have to resort to containment boards and facebook groups to pass memes around
>memes slowly die out

I've been hardcore dieting for over two months now and for the last two weeks have been getting these wicked head spins, what do I eat/take to stop these?

>>42126281
Potassium
B12
Iron
Magnesium
Manganese

Just google foods high in X

>>42125101
50 here been lurking about a decade. Fuck been online before the web,
Ps. Oldman strength is a real thing. I'm always horrified how weak you all are

>>42126275
I'll post a progress pic like everyone shouldwhen I reach my goal weight, which is in a couple months, that's the closest you'll get to seeing my tits.

Hoping to be 85 point something by my next weigh in, lads
wish me luck

I'm slowly trying to replace unhealthy things in my diet while keeping it cheap and easy.

I know they're nowhere near as good as fish fillets, but are fish fingers healthy?

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>>42123270
you should fast anon, i am trying to fast while doing bodyweight stuff. people got me thinking when they say nobody in Auschwitz had loose skin. really it sort of makes sense if you keep your protein high that the body never needs to take the extra skin away

>>42126191
Nice blog.

I'm blind in one eye

>>42126202
Fact is that you're looking forward to the idea of not cutting when you're still (by your own admission) months away from getting there. If you're not going to go crazy and eat whatever you want like a pig (and let's be honest, you probably will at least once) then why are you so excited?

Just keep cutting until you reach your goal weight and then start bulking/lifting. There's no excuse to not do it this way other than you want a break to eat more food.

>>42123767
>14lb of fat
>9%body fat

You are already there anon. but here is a (you)

>>42124598
>not knowing how to get Heaven

>>42126345
Their faces look so normal but their bodies are fucking skeletons. I wonder what their BMI is.

>>42125843
You got several choices
1)Change your brand of coffee
2) Stop exposing your coffee to air (turns it more sour and bitter)
3) make only a shot worth of coffee then down that shit
4)be a man

>>42126375

>Just keep cutting until you reach your goal weight and then start bulking/lifting. There's no excuse to not do it this way other than you want a break to eat more food.

And what gives you the idea that it's not exactly what I am doing/will be doing when I reach goal weight?

I don't see why I shouldn't be excited to eat a smidgen over my TDEE, as I said I will do a controlled clean bulk.
Thanks for your concern but I know what I am doing. It's not irrational to be excited about making muscle gains and eating more, if you do it right. It's not the pig outs I am looking forward to, it's seeing actual gains.

So my girlfriend who is slim but slightly less slim than she used to be has decided to lose weight. I thought I'd bring you this conversation we just had.
"What I'm going to do is lose weight this week, and then a week from now eat a load of sweets"
"Why?"
"Well I'm not fat now but if I eat sweets I'll get fat. So I'll lose weight, then eat sweets when I'm very skinny, then I can just lose the weight again"

>>42126505
Your girlfriend sounds kinda dumb desu senpai.

>>42126281
If you're drinking a lot of water you might not be getting enough salt

>>42126519
>you might not be getting enough salt
Are there any symptoms of salt deficit?

>>42126517

I mean maybe but in her defense it's what most people actually do, she's just stripping the bullshit off and doing it on purpose.

>>42126523
dizziness, lethargy. It can be a problem if you are doing low carb in particular.

>>42126505
Jesus...

As >>42126529 said, this is basically meta-/fit-bulk/cuts on steroids for virtually no muscle mass gain. At least get her to start lifting, you might see some meagre progress in her body composition.

>>42122049

33yo ex fatty here. lost around 20kg but still struggle from time to time.

If i dont watch my diet for 3 days in a row my weight skyrockets. I am sorry guys, but we will have to fight it for the rest of our lifes

>>42126563
How long since you lost the weight?
I think most people accept that it will be a lifelong struggle. I'm fine with calorie counting for the rest of my life if I have to

>>42126583

Around 3 years. I still struggle not to overeat and can only really control it with a hi fat hi prot low carb diet.

I do bodyweight fitness and go running, but sometimes i lose control and gain around 2 to 3 kgs back in a day or two. I know it is mostly water but it fucks with my motivation and starts a vicious circle.

Anyway i am back at it, i usually weight around 81kg at 11.5%bf and i am going for 78

>>42126391
>Stop exposing your coffee to air (turns it more sour and bitter)
I tried coffee right out the packaging and it was still sour and bitter

1300 calories today, lets go bois

>>42126695

Coffee will always be bitter if you never smoked. Why not use artificial sweeteners and coffee creamer, you know, the powder?

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Why haven't you taken the Soup Pill yet?

>200-350 calories in a CAN
>Lots of salt to force more water
>2-3$ each
>Nearly infinity number of choices from different brands.

What's your excuse?

>>42122049
tail end of 27
lost 160lbs this time

>>42126810
sodium

>>42125717
Excel anon here, I think I'll cook something up for all you bulking types a bit later after work.

someone knows a way to lose manboobs? I feel disgusted by mine and want to get rid of them efficiently with exercise and diets

>>42127032
>exercise and diets
you got it

>>42127032
if you eat 3 strawberries each day and rub a pumpkin seeds on your tits, they'll disappear in about 3 weeks

>>42127037
which exercise will work well? weight lifting?

>>42126993
other than water retention how does it hinder weight loss? i eat a shit ton of turkey and chicken which have tons of it. should i stop?

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Currently burning every calorie i take in through exercise, have done so for about a week, eating roughly 1200 calories a day and burning as many in the gym. My muscles are recovering fine and i dont feel bad, except im so damn hungry, am i damaging my body?

>>42127068
1. water retention is the bane of my existence, my body retains water like a mother fucker
2. if you don't exceed your daily limit 2300mg you're fine

>>42127085
compared to damaging it by eating shitty foods and never moving?
not even close

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>>42127085
Do not trust calories calculators, especially for Weight lifting

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>tfw too fat to take clothes off or leave the house even after years of diet

>>42125366
>best casual site

Because it's anonymous and actually has content. I feel you.
Only reason I still rationalize coming here myself. 4chan might be "bad", but other non-anonymous sites are likely to be far more socially pathological.

>>42127145
You have body dismorphia

>>42127145
you forgot to lift retard and you could lose more weight, you are skinny fat.

>>42127013
Thank you so much excel anon, the more math challenged friendly it is, the better.

>>42127135
I'd hope nobody actually tries to count "strength training" calories burned. Even MFP outright tells you not to even bother.

I'll give anon the benefit of the doubt that he's doing cardio.

>>42125234
Hey replying because I've been there. Youre using food as an emotional crutch and you need to sort out your relationship with it. It is fuel, thats all it is. So get high quality, healthy fuel and get it in your mouth until you're not hungry. Also, a big problem may be a lack of variety if you're not used to eating healthy. Try different things and look up different healthy recipes. Tuna patties are a personal favorite of mine. Pretty much straight protein, put some hot sauce on them and eat them in raw spinach/salad. The point is that you can enjoy healthy food and enjoy shit food. You just need to limit your shit food to special occasions. I was a mcdonalds boy almost every night and it was straight up the source of my obesity, you gotta realize that shit has a time and place. Dont eat shitty food every day, just like you shouldn't get drunk every day. Have a healthy relationship with the way you eat man.

>>42127171
I'm just fat. 186 lbs 6 foot
>>42127162
Maybe. Most people are way bigger than me but I still look like complete shit
Must CUT more

>>42122113
>weigh yourself everyday
>take an average on the seventh day
that's the correct way of tracking your weightloss progress

>>42127046
work on your pectorals (bench, isolation exercises - just google pectorals exercises in general), and train your obliques - and your whole core while you're at it.

my weight plateaued for the last two months, I don't feel like going under 1700kcal
then HIITs came to the rescue
75kg, here I come

>>42127145
you have almost zero muscle, you need to lift

I don't get it. Every couple of weeks I'll crash and cheat and maybe eat about 5000 calories all of it shit in one day. But I'm not gaining weight when I do that. At the end of the week when I weigh the number is always lower.

What's going on?

>>42125366
4chan is the perfect place for wasted youth.

>>42127248
you might have zerod out the caloric deficit you accumulated during the rest of the week, given you were cutting the rest of the week. Then lost a bit more.

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>>42127227
FeelsGood thanks, I will work on my body with that information

>>42124628
The science is it's been one week you faggot try a month you cock mongler

5 months to lose 50 pounds is realistic? I eat 400-800 calories a day

>>42127238
I'm cutting hard as fuck at 1300-1500 cals, Should I even start lifting now? I still have a LOT of fat on me. I would get shitty gains now because of my cut. I want to be 160 lbs, I feel way too blubbery now and any bulk would make me gain a lot of fucking fat as well or be pointless because I don't want to go over 200lbs with my Bfat

>>42127238
is that really zero muscle?

>>42127298
stats

>>42127298
No. Eat 500-800 FEWER calories a day. You're setting yourself up for failure, retard.

>>42127298
depends where you're starting from buddy.
250-200 is much faster than say 200-150.
and exponentially difficult the lower you go.
stats?

>>42127298
>I eat 400-800 calories a day
not healthy

>>42127318
IM going from 179 to 125
5'5" girl

>>42127085
You could be damaging your mind actually. Google "exercise bulimia" and see if you don't identify with the condition.

>>42125234
Do what I did for awhile and make chocolate part of your diet. 8 ounces a day of 80% dark chocolate is perfect for a regimen to increase heart health. Just don't eat garbage milk chocolate or overeat and you can still get a daily fix.

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>>42125792
>tfw 5 inches after losing 40lbs
>still fat at 197 at 5'6''

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>>42127303
>and any bulk would make me gain a lot of fucking fat

No anon, a clean controlled bulk with set monthly weight gain rates and recalibrations and adjustments done ever so often - on a monthly basis would be optimal - will allow you to catch any slip up in high body fat intake.
I need to edit this infographic as it's been reported that the weight gain caloric intake calculator might be inexact for not taking into account the difference of calories needed to put on mass of muscle and mass of fat, but the whole tracking process I mention with taking measurements and weight, as well as estimating your monthly lean gain+total gain is still correct and needs to be done if you want to make a good bulk.
Essentially when excel anon comes back with the data on how to calculate caloric intake for a bulk with those new formulas, I'll make a new infographic with the updated info.
However the lowest you can cut to start your bulk the better, given you will maintain at most 20% body fat gain during the process of the bulk. If you go low enough, you won't have to cut after the bulk in some cases. Yes start lifting now, just to get form and strenght conditioning in, also read up on mobility and that should set you up for massive gains when you do start bulking.
>>42125717

>>42127358
>8 ounces
what the hell, anon?

>>42127327
I'm a girl too, 5'3
started at 143lbs the start of may.
Currently 115lbs as of today.
That'd be 28 lbs in roughly 2 and a half months.
I started at 500 deficit, then gradually moved up to 700, which is what I do now (on average 800 calories).
More than manageable at my current stats, to maintain the body I have.
I don't know if it's healthy at your current weight to do 400-800 intake, I would suggest to do it like me, you'll get the same (and better results at first since you're starting up higher) results as me, and be over the 50pounds lost range in short of five months for sure.
Good luck anonette.

>>42127408
Whoops, curse my dyslexia. Damned 8s. More like 1 ounce a day, the bars I was eating were 25 grams.

>>42127384
I get what you're saying and I think your program is great, I'll lift when I get into college for free, I don't have a job. Only have some 40lb free weights. No job also makes clean bulk harder.
I really appreciate it but I KNOW I need to cut another 10-20 pounds now rather than if I bulked and need to cut the fat on me and lose the gains I will gain

>>42127443
lmfao that makes more sense, had me worried there for a second. i've seen some odd attempts on here, including that dude eating 4 pounds of potatoes every day.

>>42127462
I will say if you have a good routine I can do right now with free weights while on a deficit, I will follow it

>>42127475
yeah I remember the 4 pounds of potato guy...not the guy you're responding to, but I've been considering making a "gems" folder of /fat/ then make a nice screencap compilation.

>>42127305
this is what people who never lifted look like

>>42127499
minus the fat

>>42122049
29, down ~20 so far

>>42127427
>>42127427
You lost a lot of weight... I don't get it. You exercise a lot? You probably should have lost 15 pounds max with your deficit in 2.5 months.

>>42127462
>>42127481
I understand your current circumstances, anon.
Of course there are some environmental factors that have an effect on your health.
Just to give you an idea, I'm a poor grad school fag who recently graduated and have not yet started working, can't afford the gym for another couple months or so, and just cutting for now (I had virtually little to cut, and I'm a woman).
I think there are many free weight exercises you can do to maintain and gain muscle mass, within the limitations of certain muscles.
I don't have time right now to make a list, but I have tried quite a few at home before. I'll try and make another infographic on free weights exercises, when I get the time, but if you need the info right now, in short, you can basically do anything and variations of it of what you do originally with a barbell targeting chest, arms including tris, back, quads, glutes...

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>>42124843
Fuck I need to get home gym equipment.

Is this a good bench to get or are there better ones? I'll need to buy the bar and plates too.

>>42122049
26 here. Athlete through high school, ruined my body in and after college and ballooned from 140 to 220 at 6 feet. Damage is already done probably but I need to change at some point.

I'm kind of baffled that my TDEE is like 2900 calories with moderate exercise. Eating over even 1500 seems so fucked.

>>42127562
Thanks. I'm under the idea that environment is never a proper excuse for doing nothing but it is a factor in what I'm currently doing and how I'm doing it
I can wait until you get the time for sure, I will follow your advice and also do a bit of researching on my own.
Was doing tricep and curls for a bit but I wasn't really getting stronger after a month but I probably just needed to go harder/Longer

>>42127557
Oh I probably should have mentioned that I did IF 18-6 for a couple weeks, then upped it to 23:1 OMAD and still going strong.
I think being in a fasted state virtually 23:45 of the day (I eat in less than 15 min) also really helps trigger body fat consumption.

I also do some HIIT at home (25 mins 3 times a week) and did free weights lifting when I had access to some for about three weeks (I did 45 mins of 8x3x10 with AxBxC rotations on lower body/upper body/lower body (C being for isolation of glutes in particular). I also do 20 mins of core work a day.
I would have started lifting heavy at the gym (doing SS or another linear progression program) if it weren't for the fact I'm a poorfag and have to wait a couple months to settle in a new place to enrol at the gym.
Which coincidentally is when I'll reach end goal weight for this cut (104lbs). So I do with what I have for now.

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>>42127619
If anything anon, keep at it, not for the visible hypertrophy gains, but for the actual conditioning, mobility and strenght gains that will jumpstart your gym journey to the highest standards right from the beginning. Focus on perfecting form, check out the books in the fitness section of pic related, it's my ebook collection. You'll have everything you need to learn from anatomically descriptive books how to (sorry for using this meme) ""activate"" your muscles, in other words develop the full range of motion needed to trigger muscle tear, and thus muscle hypertrophy...think of it like tearing a piece of cloth, without the mobility, flexibility and strenght to tear it, you wouldn't be able to do a good job.
I promise that reading even portions on most these books will save you months if not years of wasting progress in the gym, and since you're probably on holidays, you could take the time to focus on that task, just to prepare.

>>42123671
you could. ever seen Fat Head?

you'll probably feel like shit though.

>>42127671
Thank you, I'll keep this thread up

>>42127713
all these books (including other sections) are downloadable in multiple formats on this website for free by the way :
https://libgen.pw/
just search for them by authors.
If you can't find the right format for your readers, download Sumatra. It's a free ebook reading program that accepts virtually all formats.

I accidentally ate a Macdonald 2 steak, bacon, cheese burger, a fish burger and french fries. Should i skip dinner ?

>>42127625
So you think IF helped you lose more weight than just being on a deficit alone?

>>42123396
that is 99% fat right there. Losing weight will give him a pounh but atleast he won't have that huge gut poking out of his shirts

27 - 6 foot 1
320lb started march 20th
249lb as of this morning
feelsgoodman.

the strange part about being 320lb was that i never felt fat, still cycle'd played football(soccer) and walked alot, but i was disgustingly fat after checking pictures. another 35lb to go before i start to feel good i think.

>>42127848
I couldn't tell you if it helps on a physical level as I have no way of remaking this experiment with the same factors, IF excluded. I can tell you it helped psychologically because it curbed my desire to eat, cravings and hunger after a while by suppressing my appetite. It also is a discipline booster. Have become way more productive now that I don't allocate so much time in the day thinking or preparing food.

Do I think it has helped? Yes, there is some scientific authorities more or less reputable, more or less mainstream and rooted in the weight loss industry, that suggest fasting can increase the body fat consumption (for longer periods of time than a standard diet).
Is it all legit, the studies, the word of mouth of these people? I don't know. I just like to experiment by nature, and find out myself.
Ideally if I could recreate any protocols in endless variations it'd be great to figure out what works for me.

5 lbs away from my goal weight of 155. I didn't start insanely big but its still a pretty big achievement. thanks for yalls help over the year.

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>>42127764
>I accidentally ate a Macdonald 2 steak, bacon, cheese burger, a fish burger and french fries
how the hell
>Should i skip dinner ?
yes

>>42127935
Good job anon! 10lbs away here!

>>42127604
there are better ones yes but it works for what it is and I know academy sells a 300 lbs cap weight set comes with a bar and everything not the best but it works if youre just starting out

How are all your teeth fellow fatties? Im considering getting metal braces

>>42127615

don't look at your TDEE with moderate exercise look at sedentary.

>>42128014
>Took X ray at teeth clean up
>They ask if I ever had braces, I say no
>They say that me and me mum have perfect teeth
>tfw I have overbite and my smile is ugly so it doesn't matter

>>42127991
to be honest you guys, I think home gym equipment is a really good financial alternative to gyms, but I would never be able to do stuff like OHP and squats on heavy weights alone in my garage. I'd neck myself for sure. So I guess gym it is for me.

How do I get myself to go running before work? I can watch my intake and lift consistently, but despite enjoying when I run I find it so hard to roll out of bed at 4am to run 5k

>>42122113
My scale's right next to my shower so it only takes a few seconds to do it anyway. Might as well, you know?
Then the damn thing broke and I haven't been able to measure myself for weeks (haven't bothered going to the shops yet).

>>42128086
run in the evening after work.

>>42127935
My goal weight is also 155, and I'm 164 right now. Keep it up anon, you're so close to making it!!

Anyone else have an abnormally low TDEE? it's summer so I'm basically a NEEt besides the gym but I'm losing 0.5-1kg a week eating 1500 calories @ 185cm and 85kg?

Anyone else experiencing something similar?

>>42128197
what do you mean. you are eating at a caloric deficit, thus losing weight. your tdee is probably around 2500, you are doing a pretty extreme cut.

>>42121877
Could someone link me all these /fat/ imgs that are posted on these generals?

Whoever make them.. nice work mate.

>>42127923
I see. Congrats on your weight loss btw :)

>>42123270
Muscles filling it up is mostly a meme, your abdominal muscles will never have enough volume to fill it up perfectly, you might as well cut more so at least you won't be fat.

>>42122892
Sleeping a bit less/more probably doesn't affect your weight loss significantly, however it is very important to get about 8 hours of sleep every day.

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Does it make sense to cut until im a skeleton and then lean bulk or lose until im 140 and then lift and cut until im 125?

Reee i want to look like this

>>42128271
I was eating at 1800 for a while and my weight was pretty stagnant. once i started eating 1500 I dropped 0.7kg in a week which is quite a bit actually. I may up them to 1600/1650. I just wanted a second opinion

>>42128283
thanks! Wish you good luck on yours!

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>>42123671
You shouldn't just eat the same thing over and over, though you can eat only at Mc Donalds yes.

See: John Cisna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLxlU-uAHIY

>>42122180
Mocha and a muffin this morning.

>>42125066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJmiyFD6PM

Thissun's my jam

>struggling to down 1 kg in one week
>mother cook too much, gain one kilo overnight
I ll just give up

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How many caloritas are you fatties cutting at?`

Im 184cm and about 100kg and im cutting at 1200cal myself.

>>42125725
Eat eveyrthing you want, just eat up to 1500kcal a day. then go lower, one day go to 2000kcal, then go lower again and keep at eat.

Hell, if that >>42128400 Cina made you can do.

>>42128379
plateus are common once your body has adapted to getting fewer calories. it makes sense that now you are losing weight faster since your body hasn't adapted to that amount of calories yet. i get wanting to shed weight fast. if you are somewhat hitting you macro goals and aren't losing gains that much, then keep going since it's clearly working.

and i know the strugglel, it's incredibly difficult to get a lot of proteins on a 1500 calorie diet, i'm currently eating around that many too but my tdee is around 2000. still losing weight, about 1kg every two weeks or a bit more depending on how much cardio i did. my bmi is 21.5 but i want to lose like 2-3 more kg and then start a long clean bulk.

>>42128124
Even when it's not 100 degrees I hate the idea of people seeing me, hence why I want to do it before showering and work

>>42128311
honestly depends on what you want to achieve, and in what order.
Personally, I'm going for the low bf% then long clean bulk. I think you should be lifting either way.
Can you handle repetitive cycles of cuts and bulks (mostly the cuts, I guess?) or would you get on with it and just cut now while you're at it till you can safely bulk for 20-30 pounds without having to cut.

What are your experiences with chicken breasts?
I always feel hungry after chicken for some reason. If I consume same amount of calories in beef, pork or anything else that is not chicken and I'm fine

>5'10"
>315 lbs
>now suffering from severe dissociation that, among other things, have completely severed my desire to eat for pleasure

It literally takes effort to hit 1000 calories a day. I was 320 only a few days ago. I wonder what I'll be in a month if this keeps up.

>>42128899
Exact same with me, man. Not quite sure why though.

>>42128942
I started at 320lb 1600 calories lifting 3 days a week no cardio and lost 5lb+ a week, why you going so low anon?
you should only be hungry at like 11am onwards at that point you should be asleep

>>42128899
I fucking hate chicken breasts. Expensive and zero fat content, needs insane TLC to get it to taste good. That shit's for yuppie women. Buy chicken thighs instead.

>>42128972
I seriously can't bring myself to eat. The only thing that reminds me to do so is hunger pangs themselves, at which point I'll have a few bites of whatever mom cooked and wait for it to stop.

>>42128973
1kg @ £3.33 from Aldi in England, what is expensive to you?

>>42128992
I have a carb + protein shake in a morning, then literally 2 BBQ wraps from KFC, then chicken and sweet potato fries for dinner with 100grams of vegetables. starting eating the things you like to help increase calories to 1500 ish
I'm 249lb now and it only took 4 months of effortless calorie counting eating what i want..

>>42128030
Got told mine are in perfect health but I could get braces to straighten the top out. Told them forget it.

Weird thing is I only ever brush once a day so thought for sure he'd they they are fucked up.

>>42128285
fuck you
6' 190 pounds isn't fat

>>42128522
People run in the morning too. The real dedication/mma types around my area

>>42128311
Only if you know for sure all that fat is going to your ass. Because that ass is fat, not muscle and probably been injected using the fat from her abdomen.

>>42129076
There's a pretty famous MMA gym down the street from me and the dudes I see walking in and out of there are so ripped it's not even funny. I think once I've made it I'll go sign up there, they teach striking and grappling as separate modules and the latter sounds like a fun time desu.

>>42128996
Fuck I gotta start going to aldi Tesco is ripping me off.

Chicken breast is plain as hell though and to eat to dry out. Thigh tastes much better and is usually cheaper.

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>>42129124
garlic pepper, and black pepper from aldi are you friend if you want tasty chicken oven-bake at 200 degrees with chopped sweet potatoes and veg for like 20 minutes, flip everything half way

>>42122329
>90 pounds in 5 months

God damn how did you lose it so fast?

>>42129124
How do you cook them ? Do you just throw them in a pan and wait for them to be hot ?

Anybody else super stiff?

I lost most my weight, but I still grunt like an old man when bending over, or trying to stand up, or doing anything with motion really.

>>42128042
I came to this conclusion the other day. Wanted badly to have my own setup but cost/space/danger. Fuck that man, i'll find a solid gym

>>42129167
this is tasty, can attest

>>42129071

It is for that guy. He's overweight still for his frame and current lean mass.

He should go down to 160. His stomach is visibly fat, it's not just loose skin.

>>42124628
your weight fluctuates daily by a couple pounds due to water weight anon

>>42129071
I'm 6'3 190 and still fat.

>>42122329
>>42123270
>>42123396
>>42129071
people are giving you good advice and you are just balatantly ignoring it. please leave and never come back.

Is it truly and honestly just calories in vs calories out to lose weight? Regardless of your macros?

>>42129071
Shoo shoo delusional fatty, this thread is for people who want to change.

I just got done biking and it feels like there's a cable burning right behind my knee. What do?

>>42129167
I made my own lemon pepper spice, it works for me on chicken and fish.

>>42129321
Usually oven.

>>42129799
I just grill them. Chicken breast are tasty by themselves. Chicken thighs are better but you have more work to do

>>42129720

For losing WEIGHT yes. But with shit macros you'll lose muscle as well as fat. And for general health.

KEep good macros so you're healthy while you do it. Being thin and unhealthy is as bad as being fat and unhealthy. It's just easier to fix. But why not become thin and healthy at the same time?

>>42129076
Thankfully the track at my area doesn't have people that early, I think my problem is I have so much stress I can't sleep and even 10mg melatonin doesn't knock me out fast enough to be awake at that hour

How long did it take until you started seeing noticable differences?

>>42126383
I bet they are below 40kg

>>42122180
I've been undereating, and I think I'm losing muscle more than fat

>>42130145
At about 10 pounds down? Its different for everybody, and you won't notice it right away because its a gradual process. Take a photo with every weigh in so you get a clearer visual on how much your body changes as you lose weight, makes it a lot more worthwhile desu.

>>42130145
started at 310lbs, someone mentioned my weight at around 160
so a while

>>42128446
180cm/82kg

varies, anything between 800-1500kcal

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>hurt my rotator cuff somehow on the babbiest of bench presses so can only do squats and abs for a week while I hope it heals
Lifting is harder than losing weight.

>>42130731
you kinda deserved it if you didn't practice form sufficiently before even engaging in weights that could damage your rotator cuff.

>tfw doing a 2 day fast
>it's been over 20 hours since I last ate
>slightly hungry, will probably make it through the day
Will tomorrow be much worse as far as hunger goes?

>>42130917
no, it'll be the same, with cyclical bouts of hunger coming and going every few hours or so. At least that's what happens in my experience.