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>>42040599
>alcohol does not convert to fat. even daily beers probably would not make you gain weight. there is no fat in beer
Alcohol makes you fat by proxy. It turns into acetate, and your body prefers burning acetate over fat, when available, so drinking alcohol has the same effect as if your TDEE was lowered.

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/progress4fatfux/ edition

last pic was a little less than a month ago now?

Weighed in at 224 today, fellow /fat/s. Hoping to break 220s next week

Post your good feels, lads and lasses.

Just went to a local clothing store and bought dress clothes for my new job. Remembered how, at my largest, I'd do the same and want to hang myself in the fitting room.

Everything fit perfectly and I looked good in it. Like... really good.

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>>42040825
Are your legs really tiny or do you have a long ass torso?

Have had a haemorrhoid for the past week lads, haven't dared to work out in case I set it off and it's as painful as it is

Caught myself snacking several times throughout, it's like I pull out one leg of my routine and it all starts to collapse

I've got to go back to the gym tomorrow, I can't let this fuck everything up. It's starting to recede now so I hope I'll be OK

I ASKED WHEN IT WAS DYING

anyway i can maintain my daily calorie goal eating frozen meals, but when i make my own food, i get bored of it and am more likely to binge. wat do?

>>42040921

i think it's just the angle. they might b tiny though. also the pic on the left was june 23rd? so more like two weeks ago actually.

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Post what you eat today.

>tfw fell off my diet for a couple days, but still at my weekly goal
>all dat sodium is probably gonna totally fuck with my weigh in on friday tho
fugg

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>>42041012
841 calories.

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>>42040718
>tfw binging on fried chicken for a third day in the row

>>42040957
Eat frozen meals. It's not the end of the world as long as you get decent macros and protein and stay under your calorie goal.

>>42040957
How hard is it?
See mine :
>>42041012
>>42041035

>>42040914
Nice, man.

I haven't gone over my TDEE (~2200) since June 11th. May not seem like much, but it's a really good feel.

>>42040957
Just roast meat in bulk and eat that for the next few days. You can eat veggies raw, as long as you like the taste, and if you're okay with getting less nutrients from them.

>>42040957
>>42041147
Oh sorry I thought you get bored of the process of preparing food, and not of the taste of the food. Consider my post void.

I posted a couple weeks ago that i couldn't sleep since i started dieting, that has changed recently, the simple trick is sleep earlier. I sleep well when i go to bed around 9-10pm, i can easily sleep 8-10 hours, any later and i just wake up after 5-6 hours of sleep for some reason.

>>42041040
Stop.

If you treat alcohol like calories its not a big deal

>>42041040
>three day binge

That's too long, guy. Once is a cheat, twice is a mistake, but three times is a habit.

>>42041192
Alcohol has calories. What do you mean?

Do you know some good appetite suppressant ?

>>42041259
carrots is mine. occasionally with Humus

>>42041259
Caffeine ephedrine is the supposed god tier. I personally just try to limit my binge and make up for it by cutting even more. Like my normal is 1800 calories a day and I'll eat 1500 until I make up for the binge.

>>42041259
nicotine

>>42041292
EC is pretty damn effective, especially if you don't have a tolerance.
I'm on a 1500+ deficit and it definitely makes it more tolerable.

>>42040825
What are the stats?

>>42041259
Peanutbutter

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Confess your sins.

>>42041338
Are you worried about the heart attack and stroke risk?

>>42041339

left is 208, right is 198. june 23rd til today.

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>>42041358
Pic related, my Rabbi.

>the ice cream sandwich hot weather Jew got me

Anyone else feel that when you make it you're still going to be a fat person?

I just don't have an off switch, my natural predisposition is just to stuff my face like a pig, my stomach is endless

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My weight loss is slowing to a crawl.

Please help!

>>42041375
What's the app?

>>42041290
>>42041292
>>42041330
>>42041338
>>42041342

Thanks guys, can't find ephedrine where i live so i think i will eat a lot of peanut buttered carrot with my coffee and smoke

>>42041430
Smoking will kill your gains, take up vaping

>>42041430

there is a less effective version called synephrine

>>42041430
Bronkaid from walgreens, CVS, etc.

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>>42041430

150 calories left
what can I eat

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I thought the dreaming of food thing was just a meme but I had a dream last night about a big juicy burger....

Staying strong though, 3 eggs with two cocktail tomatoes in it will keep me until after my workout I, must not succumb to my fat tendencies!

>>42041205
I think he means that some people say alcohol causes weight gain--it's a simple case of calories in, calories out.

>tfw ~2000 mg of sodium daily because cottage cheese is easier than cooking chicken

Is this bad for me? I eat like 5.5 pounds of the stuff weekly...

>>42041358
Ordered a medium pan pizza with extra cheese and sausage plus cheesy bread. Ate roughly half of it. Im disgusted with myself.

>>42041533
2g of salt is nothing

>>42041538

fat fuck

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>>42041040
Binges should only be a one day thing every couple of weeks and should be followed with a 24 hour fast.

STOP.

>>42041483
anything 150 calories or less

>>42041412
The last sentence in the OP.

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>>42041375
If you had just done a little better on that Saturday you would have made it brah. Good to see you restrained yourself on the Holiday.

>>42040718
I've put on some muscle while losing 25lbs of fat (currently 172lbs with 5'11", around 16% BF) but it seems like I cannot lose more weight on 1800kcal, which according to calculators in OP is a 900kcal deficit. I think I track my calories accurately with MFP. Do I just suck it up and cut more? Can my metabolism be really that slow?

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>>42041392
Chew slowly and savor the food. Every time you take a bite you should be putting the fork/sandwich down. Did you know that you have taste buds on the bottom of your tongue and lips? Go ahead and try them out.

You should not put more food in your mouth until you swallow the first bite. it should take you 25 - 30 minutes to finish a meal. 10 minutes eating. 5 minute break. 10 more minutes eating. You need to activate the taste portion of your brain to feel full.

Most people eat too quickly. Or eat foods that do not satisfy like sugar.

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>>42041499
I take the food dreams as my cheat meals. I really enjoy them and they feel real enough. I don't wake up hungry so I might as well have actually eaten a whopper with large fries.

>sleep cycle is fucked due to being unwell
>feeling sick, tired and demotivated
>don't want to prepare food other than my breakfast (today at 17:00)
>order large fish and regular chips from takeaway - been eating properly for the past month
>instant regret, tastes bad, feels bad, leave maybe 1/4 of it

Any ideas how many calories would be in something like that? No nutritional information is available but conservative estimates from googling reckon it'd be around 1,000 - 1,500

>>42041538
Jesus Christ. Next time go to Walmart and get a couple thin crust frozen pizzas. Eat both of them and still be under TDEE.

>>42041738

>172 lbs
>1800 kcal is 900 deficit

not likely

>getting back in the gym after the 4th and having a shitty lunch

My fitness pal actually does help. Thanks, /fat/.
It's just sometimes I have to have dinner with the family, or go along to a random restaurant and I have to guess really broadly what item that the app has catalogued is the closest to what I'm eating.

Now I need to do my 1k+ routine to make sure that I end the day on a good deficit.

>>42041538
Cheesus...

>>42041748
Yeah I ain't doing that shit, that's just conscientious eating, it has nothing to do with how I feel about food

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>>42041800

>1k+ routine

>>42041828
Cardio
>cardio is hard

>>42041843

MFP has a bit of an overestimate when it comes to calories burned form exercise I think.

>>42041868
>>42041843

It depends on whether he's really going for it and using the machines own readout or not. It's pretty easy to burn 800+ with an hour on a treadmill.

>>42041868
I use the machine's count. So maybe that's just as inaccurate, but it I'm not sure how worried I should be. It asks your weight, that's better than nothing.

>find something that does 250+
>repeat 4+ times

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>Out grocery shopping with sister and mom.
>Getting healthy shit while they're picking up poptarts, cheetos, and everything else.
>Moms worried that my food will be expensive because its good for you, so I told her I'll pay for it seperately.
Tfw I ended up getting enough for a couple meals at 20 bucks while they spent nearly 40 on snacks, sweets, and their supper.

>>42041702
I just have no friends and avoid most of my family. Makes holidays easier. Still yeah I got a while to make up for it.

>>42041564
>binge days should be followed with a 24 hour fast.
You're fucking retarded, this is how you get into a binge cylce.

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>>42041955
You need to eat some REAL food honey! You're gonna Starve on that "REAL" food.

>>42041982
How the fuck else are you supposed to make up for a 4,000 calorie binge? This shit is physics.

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NO AK TODAY ANONS

The 'exercise calories' estimates are from Strava via the concept 2 rowing machine.

>>42041879
You think fatties can run for an hour?

>>42041997
Just go back to your normal deficit and don't be a weak minded fatass.

>>42041359
Not really. Just keep track of your blood pressure and lower the dosage if you feel like you're on speed.

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>>42041997
I'm doing the math right now to make up for a 2550 calorie binge. I got it down right now to 2050 after two days.

The power is yours!

So you can't go wrong with stir fryed chicken and vegetables, r-right?

>>42042051
Sure you can go wrong if you don't measure and put too much olive oil and load it with teriyaki. Plus rice is very calorie dense. If you have more broccoli than rice then maybe it is good. Maybe.

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WTF I hate math now!

>>42042067
I just use chicken and vegetables, no rice.
I use Teritaki though, is that bad?

>>42042051
Eat the vegetables raw and leave out any rice. Just cook the chicken in minimal oil and you're golden. I like to use hot sauce as it can spice up you whole meal without adding calories.

>>42040914
There's nothing to feel good about. Until I stop being fat I can't stop looking and feeling less than a man.

Is coke zero really that bad if i'm trying to lose weight?

>bacon mcmuffin this morning
>bbq chicken wrap at lunch
>brownie for dessert
and still under 1200

how the fuck did I even get fat

>>42041358
Meal 1 - 300cal
Meal 2 - 900 cal
Meal 3 - 2000 cal - All white chocolate cookies ;_;

>>42040914
Getting comments at work. It's taken 7 months but here we fucking go lads.

>>42042117
No it's not. Caffeine improves weight loss. Also it tastes better than water and has only 2% of daily sodium.

>>42040718
I need to go back to not eating foods that taste good. Even plain potatoes taste too good and leads me to eating too much. I need to stick to beans and rice. Whatever jew who said "if it tastes good... SPIT IT OUT!" was right.

>>42042127
Typical delusional fatty.

>>42042154
I got some after 3 months, mostly involving you've lost weight are you sick, what's wrong?

>>42042164
elabourate please

>>42042159

scoobs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66boOY4xXGU

>>42042167
>what's wrong?
There's nothing wrong but i'm trying to kill my regular coke (sugar) addiction by switching it to water and occasional coke zero. At first, it tasted godly awful but now it's not bad actually, especially if it's cold.

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>>42042167
This is my last 30 days of loss. Drink a liter of diet soda a day so it doesn't hinder excessively,

>>42042190
No, they asked me that, they think my weight loss must be due to some illness. I've told them it's not but they don't believe me.

>>42040914

Lost 80 pounds, am pretty /fit. Can put up 1.5/3/3/4 for 1RM.

Have a qt gf I would have never have had the balls to approach when I was /fat/. Even though I still have a slight gut and some saggy skin around it, she makes me take my shirt off every time we fuck and mires tf out of my muscles.

feelsreallyfuckingoodman.avi

>>42040914
Looking at pictures of my face from when I was almost 300 pounds at 5'9. I'm 196 now and still got around 50 pounds to go but I look so much better.

>posting meals
>staying under tdee
>nowhere near the recommended amount of protein per lbm

>how did I ever get fat?

>>42042239
CONGRATULATIONS

Being that height and having almost 100 lbs loss did you have any loose skin issues?

>>42040914
I bought some (US) size 4 pants last week, even though I don't feel like a 4. I have never in my life worn anything smaller than a 6.

>tfw eat a box of twinikes every day for the last week

>>42041982
I think the rationale is that fasting doesn't make you feel that much worse than eating at a deficit already does, so it's not like it will trigger a mega-binge.

>>42041997
Binging shouldn't mean eating 4000 kcal, except if alcohol is involved. Just stop at 3000 like a normal human bean.

>>42042281
I've eaten well over my TDEE for 4 days in a row. All it took was learning to cook a new dish and loving the taste of it so much that I make it again and again and again.

>>42041738
You probably fell for the "moderately active" meme.

How do I know if I'm losing muscle as well on a diet? Do I have to measure bf%?

>>42042297
>tfw it tastes better and better every time

>>42042254
Well I'm still around 29 BMI so It's not to bad but i'll see in about 50 pounds if I have alot of it. I have to get my gyno removed anyway so it won't be that big of a deal.

>>42042306
weights you normally use feel heavy all the time

>>42041955
What did you buy, for reference? I'm still shit at shopping and only managed to bring home 2 canisters of steel oats, 2 packages of diced ham (I like to add it to my eggs for protein) and 2 tubs of plain Greek yogurt with 30$. I already had frozen chicken which is why I didn't buy any of that.

>>42041955
>getting enough for a couple meals at 20 bucks
This tells me you didn't buy anything healthy.

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>>42042159
you can eat potatos as much as you wish, i guarantee you will not gain weight eating potatos only lol. same goes with white rice.

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>>42042344
>real food is only $20

>>42042350
my flanks

>>42042297
>make it again and again and again.

Dear, don't do that. The next time you want to make it, make something else instead, something new. It's a trap when you make something, love it so much you start making it nonstop. It also limits you into thinking that's all you can make.

>>42042103
>eat the vegetables raw

Look, everyone knows raw vegetables retain more nutrients then cooked. But cooking doesn't generally reduce nutrients drastically (depending on method), and people are still going to cook vegetables.

Stir frying vegetables with chicken is an absolutely suitable meal for someone trying to lose weight and eat healthier.

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>>42042357
when you start eating healthy, most of calories from carbs such as rice, potatos, pasta, corn you will not only cut your bodyfat but your food bill by 70% or something. what can you wish more?

>>42042375
I just showed the receipts proving that isn't true. No, everything isn't natural or raw on them, but most of it is.

>>42042370
>everyone knows raw vegetables retain more nutrients then cooked
Not him, but I've actually heard the opposite of that here, that the body is better at processing cooked vegetables, so they retain more nutrients. It actually has me worried, because I can't stand the taste of most non-raw vegetables.

>>42042375
>rice
>potatoes
>pasta

Are you really trying to claim those are expensive?

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>>42042368
>been eating the same stir fry
>every day
>2 months
>still love it

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>>42042387
no, thos e food bills every single one of them are loaded with some really weird foods kek

>>42042393
no i just claimed the exact opposite.

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>>42042357

>doritos
>teriyaki chicken
>pasta sauce
>muffin
>choc bag
>chicken strip

>>42042370
>raw vegetables retain more nutrients then cooked.

Barely. Steamed vegetables keep over 95% of nutrients. Microwaved over 80%. It's only boiling the shit out of them in a pan of water that slashes their nutritional value (and their taste in my opinion).

Hell for some stuff like carrots, cooking them actually releases more.

>>42042411
Correct. Spinach too needs heat to release its full nutritional benefit.

>>42042370
raw vegetables RETAIN more nutrients but the body can't digest nearly as much raw vegetabled as cooked. Especially it is well known that to get magnesium out of dark greens they have to be cooked

lads I haven't eaten all day and I'm not hungry

I had carbs last night so I can't be in keto

what is going on.

>>42042404
>>42042406
So are you ignoring the skinless boneless chicken breast, oil, broccoli and everything else? Yes I got doritos one time from Costco in two years of being a member. Yes I regularly buy Tortillas, soup and pasta.

>>42042432
Make your own pasta sauce, that store bought stuff is loaded with sugar. Not a critique of you, I just really want people to cook everything you can yourself.

>>42042449
Who says I don't cook my own pasta sauce? Not something I'm going to do every time I want pasta. Often I'm just going to sauté mushrooms and onions and throw some ragu in there.

>>42042404
1st has nothing werid. second has popcorn chix, which would cut 13 out of a 145 total. nothing weird on the third, aside from maybe the eggrolls which was like 8.49 out of a 130 total. not gonna go through all of them, but, in general, these are legit receipts and the small junk purchases are like 5-8% of the total cost.

this however is bought in bulk/large quantities that are bigger than the average supermarket since its costco. one of these receipts could last you probably 4-8 days depending on what else you get. if you were to be absolutely smart about it, you'd buy eggs, milk, rice, and chicken instead of a bunch of the ingredients that are still legit, but are luxurious.

>>42042484
My costco just has big bags of rice that we will never use. We actually did buy eggs last time, but I believe it is two dozen of which we only bought because we were totally out of eggs and we were hardboiling some. As per milk, well my mom gets half and half. Didn't really check out the regular milk. I like local Turners milk and we only need the smaller jug, which itself goes bad before we use it all.

if I've lost 20 pounds and I haven't had ice cream in months is it alright to get myself a tub of it

writing this out sort of made me read and realize what I'm writing and snapped me out of it

>>42042541
Good. Don't reward yourself with food.

>>42042541

yes, go eat it. its normal to have ice cream every once in awhile, so this is the normal time to have it. don't get it again for another 2-4 months.

allowing yourself to have things you like every now and then is the key to a successful long lasting change in your diet

DONT COUNT calories burned through exercise and go off of sedetary when calculating your TDEE you fat fucks, otherwise you overestimate how many calories you burn everyday.
Its the most basic of the basic mistakes.

>>42042614
>>42042600
which is the truth /fat/

>>42042659
Whatever you do, factor it into your daily calories, and don't cheat.

>>42041430
you can also buy ephedra very easily. its the natural plant version. just make a tea. its alright. just be careful. that shit can fuck you up.

decided I'll go to that theme park after I've lost 15lbs and not a day before
that's an adequate reward, right?

>>42042642
???

>>42042541
Odd. I've lost 20.5 pounds and still occasionally eat ice cream.

>>42042713
I guess it depends who is going with you.

Is the trick hard and fast to shift this last portion of fat?

Should I be hammering it out 5 days a week?

>>42042830
what's the rush dude?
just stick to your deficit and you'll get there eventually
best not to think about it

>>42042779
and you would've lost even more if you hadn't eaten it.

>>42042830
Hard to judge what you should be doing without more history. But given you are in a fatty thread you should probably take it slow and fix your bad life style habits.

>>42042847
No because I still stick with my 1800 calories a day.

>>42042541
>g-guys is it ok to eat unhealthy this one time
God why are these threads so pathetic

>>42042600
>>42042659

There's a difference between food as a reward for reaching some goal, and enjoying food responsibly in moderation.

Tying a specific food to a goal, even a vague one, seems dangerous.

I deserve to eat unhealthy because I've eaten so healthy.

Eating a food you enjoy infrequently, in a reasonable portion, as something normal and part of your diet is fine.

I haven't had ice cream in a few months, I'll have 200cal as dessert.

>>42042851
What history do I need?

>>42042791
I'll be taking my li'l bro
he's a lanklet so I doubt it'll be an issue
we'll have a hotdog sure, but won't go nuts
hence the weight loss prerequisite, I gotta earn this shit first

saying "I'll burn it off tomorrow" doesn't work for me
I don't like being in debt, in any form

>>42042878
There's a difference between an ice cream cone and a tub of ice cream too.

>>42042887
You aren't allowed the hotdog. You can't reward yourself with food or associate the amusement park award with food at all.

>>42042880
Your current routine. Your lifts. Your cardio. How long on the program? What did you start at and current weight? Method of measuring body fat and where you are? Endurance level, etc.

>>42042940
>You aren't allowed the hotdog.
you gonna fight me for it?

>>42042430
death

Sports nutritionist and personal trainer from the last thread here to answer any more questions you may have about diet, exercise or whatever bullshit you guys want to know.

I'm around for an hour and 15 minutes before I hit the gym. Go ahead and field your questions if you have them.

>>42043015
>nutritionist
got any snake oil for me?

>>42043028
Plenty. How about a free session with me at [local gym] and we'll discuss from there?

>>42043039
sorry, I only take advice from dieticians
have fun with nutritionology though

>>42042350
wut ?
what about chicken + rice or pots ?

>>42043049
Most assuredly, thanks!

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what workout plans are you guys doing

>>42041483
150 calories of grilled chicken.

Otherwise just save the cals and enjoy a boost to your cut.

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Finally hit 192 lbs. Down from 285 this September, thanks for the support fat. Any questions and advices I think I've enough knowledge to the guys starting now. Still long way to go till ideal body but already feeling like I'm making it.

>>42043015
I eat a low fat diet. The bulk of my energy comes from beans, rice, and potatoes. Will fish oil do me good or should I stop taking fish oil?

>>42043231
>low fat diet

why its been provenb to be a crock

Any of you have increased female attention since losing weight? Femanons - increased male attention?

>>42042541
>i just went through hell controlling my desires
>better give in and go through the hell again

wewlad

>>42043221
Height? Amazing job btw.

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>>42043231
>low fat diet

>>42043251
>>42043286
As long as this person is not eating crazy amounts of carbs, and the carbs they are eating are the "good carbs", probably not a bad diet.

>>42043231

Low fat diets are a meme. Plus you need cholesterol and fat for those test gains. A low sugar diet is far superior.

>>42043304
My body produces all the cholesterol it needs. I just want to know if fish oil is a fine substitute for eating fatty foods.

>>42043283
5'11

fast for 24 hours, eat some raspberries but feel ill so I stop. Going to fast for another 24 hours, is this stupid?

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>go to scale
>tfw 200lbs
>haven't been in the 100s in years,since middle school

>>42043015
I went from 245 pounds(24%) body fat to 238 pounds (18%) body fat in two months. What kind of bullshit is this I want to weigh less and you trainers say lol just consentrate on getting stronger bro

>>42043303
They are good carbs. I mainly eat rice, beans, tubers, and a little fruit. I don't enjoy nuts and I don't enjoy eggs. I don't come to these threads often. Is this a cult? They all seem pretty dead set that my way is wrong for me even though I opened with the fact that I eat whole foods.

when do the junk food cravings end bros

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>>42040914
>woke up
>looked in mirror
>wasnt completely disgusted with myself
>also my traps are filling out nicely

>>42043344
4 weeks. If you live with your parents? Never since the junk will never be out of sight.

>>42043325
No. It's healthy to regularly fast.

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>>42043344
they don't.

>>42041358
>binge
>purge
>second day in a row of this

Father please guide me, I hate the devil that is fast food

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>>42043328

Keep going.

I'm down to 183 at my highest of 219 about 13 months ago (a very slow recomp) and have lost 7 inches off my waist. The scale reading isn't that great but I tested my BF% and it's 17.3 % while it was 31.4 % at my heaviest. I literally have not been this light since I was a sophomore in high school (I'm 25).

I think I am going to make it through my first day of fasting bros


Yesterday I fell off the wagon and ate pizza late at night but I am having no cravings today. Gonna try to fast 2 weeks at least and see if I can make it more.

I just REALLY want to be less fat when I start lifting so I can actually make gains

Day 5 of plateau at 208. I went from 208.2 to 209.0 today. After eating 1400 calories yesterday. Today I'm eating 1,200 calories. Tomorrow I'm eating 1,000 calories if I don't break 208.2. No salt. Working out every day. Low carb. Tons of water.

If I can't break 208 by the end of this weekend, I think I'll just end my life

>>42043338
I'm not a nutritionist but from what I've seen and read:
low carb is good
low fat is good
low fat and low carb will make you want to kill yourself
high fat and high carb is fat-fuck diet

>>42043388
>fasting
>2 weeks
>starting lifting

Where do you get your memes

>>42043373
Incredible progress, anon. I'm at 22.2% BF, I would be thrilled with 17.3. Godspeed.

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Had 2 junior bacon cheeseburger (plain) just now, still under 1000 cals for the day tho....should I fast until tomorrow?

>>42042614
>>42042600
I realized if I even break my discipline once I relapse and rationalize eating shitty food more and more so I literally only allow myself to eat unhealthy food when I am invited out to eat with friends which is rare since I am a recluse

>>42043446
If you arent hungry you shouldnt force yourself to eat

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hit 210 lbs today guys. soon below 200 lbs. can't fucking wait. 63 lbs lost so far.

WE"RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT

>>42043414
2 weeks is my minimum

If I make 4 weeks I will be ecstatic and have a lot more motivation to lift weights since the real meme is getting swole while trying not to be fat

What is it about us that makes food have such control over us?

I can drink alcohol and control myself. I dont do drugs or smoke, but god fucking damnit if i cant stop myself from eating Popeyes 3 times a week

>>42043478
Oh man that is going to be a great day. Enjoy it. What's your goal weight?

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>tfw 27KHV,Never been on a date
I'm 40 lbs to my goal weight, I think by Christmas I'll be there. I prayed to god to give me a gf,no memes,i've been reading bible verses before bed.

where do you meet women? how to talk to girls? can someone bogpill me on interacting with women and how to obtain a gf?

>>42043493
As a child you were probably conditioned to see food as more than simply nutrition.

>>42043414

Thanks.

It's all about the low bf % man. I really don't care much about the scale reading since all of my clothes no longer fit (donated them to salvation army) and I experienced so much facial gains - seriously I was finally able to put up 2pl8 bench and 3pl8 squat about 2 months ago but I was near 20% bf so I didn't get much attention. Now that my cut is almost over and you can see the definition I'm getting mires more frequently.

Body recomp is super slow but worth it.

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>>42043517
Most people meet their girlfriend at school or work. Be a good person and usually one will find you, but you can be proactive and go to social events.

>>42043530
>Be a good person and usually one will find you


Biggest meme of all

>>42043540
False. I've had 2 girlfriends. Was will both for over a year. (have one now over a year). I was just a normal guy going to community college and working part time at McDonald's. She started talking to me and away we went.


Nothing special about it. Don't be a try hard. I'm obese btw ad she is slightly underweight. Not the best face though.

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>>42043530
>and go to social events
I wasn't invited to anything on the 4th, I would have gone if invited. The loneliness has gotten to the point that it has fucked with my cognitive abilities

>>42043560
Your district probably sets up events like every week. Go to your cities website and see what they are doing. Usually firework... art shows... stuff like that. Also look for volunteer stuff.

>>42043504
I don't really know, it's just going to be on how many body looks, once my stomach and love handles go I'll know I'm approaching the area that I can maybe look to bulk and add muscle. I'd say 170 or 175. (I'm 5'11)

>>42043560
I met my 9/10 girlfriend through a mutual friend. How do you find a girlfriend? By not looking for a girlfriend. Get 5 male friends. Preferably from different circles of friends. Be a good person. Get a good job. Make a life for yourself. Get a hobby (besides diet/exercise.) Your friends will see you improving yourself and pushing your own limits. They will introduce you to girls inevitably. It may take 1-2 years. Being single is healthy. Don't be desperate, don't stress it. Make good friends, go with the flow. Let her come to you. Patience.

>>42043619
Yep. Women are looking for decent men who have their shit together and can fit into a good family. Yes there are sluts and bitches out there, just have to keep your mind sharp.

>>42043556
Well good for you I guess

Never had a girl be interested in being more than my friend, let alone start talking to me first and I am 25 and have gotten my masters degree.

6'2" 250 lbs. I know I am fat but trying to lose weight

>>42043647
>Women are looking for decent men who have their shit together and can fit into a good family

I have my shit together. I'm just a bit chubby. Maybe before I am 30 I will get lucky....

Been shot down too many times to count and at this point its hard not to be cynical and jaded. Tired of being told I am "too nice" or will "make a good dad someday".

>>42043647
I started asking myself, 'Who would date me?' - Not for who I was going to be in 3 months, 6 months, or a year. What girl, right here and now today, would look at me for all I am and say 'he's the one I want for good.' I was sorely disappointed by this. I realized I had a long ways to go and was owed nothing. I had spent years doing incredibly hard work, but I didn't 'earn' a girlfriend. I don't believe there are sluts and bitches out there, I believe there are men destined to end up with poorly raised women because they are well matched to them.

>>42043671
Young women might not be thinking of children yet, but man when they hit 24-26 they feel that clock start ticking. You have to be prepared.

>>42043688
I am 25

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I was looking for a "before" picture of me at my heaviest and I'm literally sickened by how fat I used to be. Why didn't I get my shit together sooner?

>>42043517
>40/6=6
>only losing 6 a month

Come on fatty you can do 10-12lb a month safely.

@Apple why am I so fat

>>42043861
You eat too much.

>>42043867
Fuck

>>42043861
Still stalled? Did you switch to maintenance for a few days yet?

>>42043869
I'm not apple btw, just pretending.

>>42043871
What do you mean by maintenance? I 'gained' about .6 this morning, according to the scale. Trainer has me spreading my meals out throughout the day. I'm comfortably below 1500 calories. Am angery.

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>>42043871

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I am here for some motivation.
If I sound whiny and attention whorish... it's because I kinda am...
Two years ago I went forth to commit Sudoku, but I fucked it up.
I was in the hospital for 6 months, and on and off since.
I was at 205 before I tried. I was strong, and fit.
I was hitting 140 dumbbells in bench, I could run a mile no problem, do farmer's walks with the 150's too, shoulder pressing 225 easy.
I rotted away in the time leading to now.
I got up to 320.
I have an apron of fat upon my stomach.
My thick, v-taper has shrunk, and my arms have too. When I sit down, I feel disgusted. I lost it all. I'm still pretty strong, and maybe a bit more because how fucking heavy I am, but I miss it...
I miss being able to wear clothes and not be uncomforable. I miss being able to look in the mirror and not be grossed out, and be able to run a mile non-stop, and then some. In the time since, I tried starting again, but the will to do so just disappeared...
I lost my muscle, and traded it for a suit of fully upgraded Lard Leviathan Armour MkVII, and a side of Crippling Depression...
I need the will to live again...

>lost 130 pounds
>still a fat shit because i'm a manlet
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>tfw I started losing weight by changing my diet and taking long walks
>decide to ruck with the weight I lose
>every 5 lbs I lose gets added to my backpack
>just hit the 40 lb mark
>every day I put on the backpack and feel how much weight I was carrying
>completely refresh my motivation every time I finish and take the backpack off and feel the weight leave my shoulders
I think I'll make it. 60 lbs more to go.

>>42043873
Not the first, second or third time this has happened. Why do you guys want to force me into tripfagging to prevent fuckery?

As for maintenance eating, use the calculators and do your research, Anal. The education is a necessity.

>>42043948
I'm not maintenance eating in the slightest. I'm on (what I would call) a pretty severe cut. Is 1500/day not low enough??

Intermittent keto fasting or water fasting which is better?


Will I lose a lot of weight(fat) eating one meal a day of baked meat and green vegetables?

I dont want to look skinny fat when I lose weight.

>>42043904
Time to download myfitnesspal and get that gym membership back anon. No more excuses.

>>42041358
Nothing to confess, but I got some Halo Top in the freezer. Probably gonna destroy it tonight.

I had a craving for pizza, but instead of ordering one I got some low carb tortillas and made 2 little pizzas with those. Only 255 calories each and it scratched the itch a bit.

>>42043977
Spread out your meals to keep your metabolism burning fat

Start working out often and hard if you want to build muscle so you don't look skinny fat

>>42043977
>I dont want to look skinny fat when I lose weight.
lift

>>42043976
If you're stuck on a plateau it's recommended that you eat at maintenance for a few days before switching back to your deficit. I recommend 3 or 4 days but some say a week. What's your macro spread like? What are you eating?

>>42043904
You'll feel less depressed if you use less ellipses, this is scientific fact.

>>42043686
This is somebody good wisdom

Still a tripfag tho even if I like your posts

>>42043999
I'm going to power through it and continue cutting calories until I blast it.

Yesterday:
51% fat (83g)
25% carb (91g)
24% protein (86g)

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>>42043987
>Spread out your meals to keep your metabolism burning fat
is this name fag actually dr oz ?
tell us more weight loss secrets dr oz!!!

>>42043927
That's a pretty cool idea.

>>42044018
If you want to autistically screech at tripfags

>>/b/

>>42043992
Volume or heavy? And what kind of diet?

If I intermittent fast I will only be eating 1400 calories

Currently 240 lbs at 6'0'=

>>42044023
Are you going to eat 500 calories a day? Cool. Eat 100 calories every 2 hours instead. This isn't fucking rocket science.

>>42044019
I'll write you up a better spread once I get home but your macros are a bit shit. Give me an hour, I'm mid set.

>>42044027
Who the fuck visits /b/ anymore baka senpai

>>42044042
I'm not focusing as much on macros, but that needs to be my next correction. I know I'm low on protein and high on carb.

>>42044065
Will explain once I get home but your macros are the most important part and need to be a focus now.

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>>42044035
>Volume or heavy? And what kind of diet?
try that keto meme diet
keeps you feeling full
remember dont go over 20 carbs a day
just stay away from dr oz advices

>>42044035
Usually want to lift something not too heavy that you can't do atleast 8 reps but not something too light as to where you can get over 12 reps. Study up on your lifting form or you could fuck your shit up. And I'm no expert on diet shit but my routine is eat breakfast (usually later in the day like at 10 or 11), skip lunch and then eat my calories in a 4 hour window after my workout, alot of the time I get full for the rest of the day and still have 200-300 calorie wiggle room. But I usually workout past 4 so you should adjust it to your time. That's just my diet though and its been working for me. You should do more research online for whatever suits you best.

>>42044035
watch these . dr rhonda patrick is a scientist and really into nutrition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNzZod_d18A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6PyyatqJSE

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>leave for vacation on Friday
>will be gone all next week

I'll do my best to not stuff myself silly, anons.

>>42044083
Not him but also curious waiting for your response

>>42044101
>>42044123
thanks senpai

>>42044019
>>42044042
Think he's gonna say moar protons, less fats.

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Help me /fat/, I don't wanna be a hungry skeleton. Is it finally time to stop the cut and start bulking or at least eating at maintenance? Currently 200 lbs 6'5", down from 244.
>inb4 start lifting
I've been lifting for months, three times a week.

>>42044133
skip breakfast and have light lunch

and have a nice big dinner and whatever else

>>42044065
>>42044083
>>42044042
>>42044019
>>42044147

Alright, so here's what you gave me...

Yesterday:
51% fat (83g) - 747
25% carb (91g) - 364
24% protein (86g) - 344

Let's just assume for whatever reason you want to eat around 1500 kcal at your height.

You've cut a decent amount, so I'm going to peg your body fat between 20-25%, that leaves you around 150-160 lbs of lean muscle mass.

150g of protein - 600 kcal
60-70g of fat - 540 or 630 kcal
90-67g of carbs - 360 or 268 kcal

You can pick 60g of fat and 90g of carbs or 70g of fat and 67g of carbs but the constant will be protein.

>>42044263
Always the case.

>>42041770
I always panic when I have binge dreams; like you said, it feels real.

>>42044367
The protein isn't a shock to me. I know I need to increase protein.

I'm 22.1% BF, 42.4% Muscle, current weight 209.

I have already cut all obvious carbs out of my diet, it's going to be hard to go below 70g/day on average. I'd rather do 70g fat 67g carb. Any advice on cutting carbs once I've already cut all grains/flours/breads?

>>42044479
Portion control? I'm not sure on that one, mate. I did keto for a bulk of time so limiting my carb intake is pretty easy a concept for me.

What kind of foods are you eating?

>>42044367
Sorry, follow up question, if I don't want to fall for the protein powder meme, what can I do to increase protein intake? I don't eat eggs, beef, or pork, btw.

.. or is protein powder a good meme

>>42044490
Let's see, here's today:

Breakfast: none

Lunch: 1/2 of salad.
- avocado
- lettuce
- cheese
- chicken
- 1tbsp dressing
- tomato

Late afternoon: other half of salad

Dinner: Marinated chicken and coleslaw

Apparently today I've had 71g of protein despite eating 2+ chicken breasts, and 55g of carbs.

>>42042947
You will always win and that is your problem. By winning the hotdog you lose.

>>42044495
Religious thing for eggs, beef and pork? If you don't do any of that then your best options are chicken and fish.

Cod is best in this regard, followed by chicken, broccoli, swai, tilapia and more chicken. Protein powder is handy if you can't cover the spread but I would incorporate it as a breakfast.

When I did protein shakes I did 2 scoops, 3 cups of almond milk, 2 tbsp of flax seed and 4 tsp of fitness fiber. Kept me regular and filled me up at breakfast.

>>42044526
Not bad, really. Grab the mfp app, scan everything and then work it out. Avocado is hella good for you and you're making smart choices in your carbs. The only outlier could potentially be the marinade but the rest is solid.

>>42043877
That's because you aren't below 1500.
Weigh everything an over estimate.

>>42044571

Protein powder meme for breakfast can be incorporated. Is there anything wrong with water and protein meme? I can drink 50g early in the day and eat the rest throughout the day.

My marinade didn't really work out. It was oil and some fancy BBQ sauce. None of it really 'marinated' so not much calories from that, but I added a few tbsp of each for good measure. I always go 25% conservative on everything I eat. Will buy a scale shortly.

Check your email.

>>42044610
Mostly taste when you mix water and protein powder. I find unsweetened almond milk is great, you can get it vanilla flavored as well and hit only about 30 kcal per cup. Water doesn't hurt though, might just make it a pain.

As for the marinade, that may have been the bulk of your fat. Oil can be a pain in the ass and I know BBQ has a high fat content in particular, depending on what you used. Scale is a good idea, as is the barcode scanner on the MFP app. Makes life a lot easier.

Will respond to email shortly.

>>42042830
Get some clen.

>>42044284
You're 200lbs in this picture? Shit. Well you're 6'5" so you've got that going for you, and 40lbs lost is damn good progress. Honestly man you're going to need a solid year or so of lifting while also eating enough to get big. Don't worry so much about bodybuilder focused cut/bulk, you've just got to put on muscle without gaining too much extra weight.

What's your diet look like? Based on your height and weight, 2500 is probably maintenance, so If you ate at 3000kcals a day you'd put on a pound a week. Any more and you'll be gaining more fat than you should.

>>42044649
I have MyPlate which also has a scanner, but I don't ever really eat anything I can scan. I do all my own cooking and food prep. Or at least I can't find the barcode on this avocado.

>>42044676
Best guess on those. There's general entries for avocados based on size.

Close as possible.

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Oh man did I fuck up.
I didn't even get a pizza or anything. Just ate a lot of homemade food.


I already did two days 300 calories under my diet and the math says I need to do another week almost!

How can I live for a week on 1500 calories a day?

>>42044691
Eat more filling foods. Space out meals. Be active. Don't sit around wallowing over food. Figure out what foods are most satiating (protip: fat/protein is satiating)

>>42044713
Your right. More bacon!

>>42044691
I've been doing it for 6 months, you can do it man. It's absolutely brutal for the first 2-3 weeks. Then it becomes bearable for 1-2 months. Then it becomes easy as fuck to the point that you have to force yourself to eat the last 200-300 calories. It's a grind though. But it's so worth it. (-63lb in 5 months 3 weeks, expecting -65 in 6month)

>>42044745
How is your body fat and what is your OHP, Squat, Dead, and bench?

>>42044691
1. Coffee
2. Protein
3. Vegetables

>>42044673
I can't post my exact diet right now but protein is a priority, I try and get at least 150g a day, mainly through oats chicken and greek yogurt. Right now I'm trying to stick to a 2100 calorie/day diet.

>>42044039
That's literally the opposite of what you should do to burn fat

What is the /fat/ salad dressing of choice?

>>42045175
Balsamic vinegar

>>42044871
I don't know what my bf is and my lifts are not that great because I only started lifting 1 month ago, before that I just did cardio. I'd say I have a 70lb bench, and I can't think of my other lifts, I don't really keep track of them.

/fat discord in here fellas, come on in

https://discord.gg/VkBqy5p

>>42045315
>https://discord.gg/VkBqy5p
Never see anyone online here.

Now that there are two anal tripfags, I'm suggesting a fight to the death to determine who gets to stay on fatfuck island.

>>42045494
The discord is unnecessary. We talk here, why go there?

>>42045315
>>42045726
so you can watch sadsack fatties dickmeasure their autisms.

>>42041358
Ate at maintenance today instead of at deficit, killing today's forward progress :(

MFP taunted me when I completed my log, too.

If you are like this every day, you'd lose ZERO FUCKING WEIGHT IN 2 WEEKS.

God fucking damnit.

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>>42045726
>>42045744
At least tell me there are some good emotes

>>42041394
Recalculate TDEE and deficit. Keep going.

>>42045744
>>42045726
The discord is honestly pretty autistic. I'm not a huge fan but only because the most domineering presence are from /fat/ contest quitters, most of which I believe to be fair weather dieters and it aggravates me to waste my time trying to help 'em.

>>42041430
I hope you don't fall for the peanut butter meme

>>42045315

Why do they talk about korean girls on it?

>>42045814
well, this is a korean ink-blot message board isn't it?

>>42042357
Lol. But somehow I manage to eat good on 50 a week. Keep making excuses bitch

I have to say, the discord has some good memes but it's more of a /fit/ discord than a /fat/ discord

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I've been nervous to go out to eat at all, but I think I did pretty good for lunch.

291 day streak
272 of them on target
the big 300 inevitable

>>42045591
>tfw someone actually saved and posted my version of the meme
all smiles lad

>>42041748
Actually good advice.

>>42041819
Never gonna make it

>>42041879
800+ calories or kilocalories? Are you mixing these up?

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>>42042202
Great job, anon

>>42046240
that looks a pain to eat

>>42046257
It's often wrapped in foil on one end, much like a burrito. If you've never had a gyro you owe it to yourself. Tzaziki sauce is amazing, and it's Greek yogurt based so it's fine!

>>42046302
sounds like an american thing
well.. in that tacos are an american thing
it's just more popular over there

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Back from my morning run.
Ran 3km (a bit less than 2miles), walked for 4 or so minutes and then ran the rest of the way home (around 800m-half a mile). It was great, I didn't suffer at all.
Now I'll drink a gallon of water and wait for my fantastic zucchini based lunch.

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>>42046302
I would try a gyro if they weren't the same price as the place's large pizza.

>>42046329
Döners ( Gyros ), are far from an American thing.

>>42046351
A gyro at a pizza place shouldn't be much over $8, how the heck do they price their pizza?

>>42046355
I gave it a 50/50 chance someone was going to say that
no offense, english might not be your first language

I'll explain though
I didn't mean that gyros were an american thing
I didn't mean tacos were an american thing
I meany these things are more popular in america than they are in my own country
get it?

>>42045857
Those receipts also have things like toilet paper, towels, etc. Any single person could live off $200 a month in straight food. Add another $100 a month for cleaning and other misc stuff.

>>42046393
>I gave it a 50/50 chance someone was going to say that
no offense, english might not be your first language
Does it make sense to add that if it isnt your first language either?

>>42046453
yes, although it's condescending
subtext is difficult to interpret from text

>>42045784
haha really? Man that's sad.

>>42045962
Yeah man that's top tier. Always multiply restaurant calories by 1.5 though.

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>>42046257
Gyros are the food of the gods. That tzatziki sauce is the best thing anyone has ever made.

>>42046351
Well hey. Maybe instead of buying a shitty pizza that will make you fat, have a delicious gyro that will fill you up and taste amazing.

>>42046393
What country do you live in?

>>42046507
nothing ever looks as good as the pictures

but we don't eat with our eyes

someone is going to call me out on that, everything I say is wrong
>picture of sandwich
>"wouldn't give it that messy piece of shit to my dog"
>picture of a literal bowl of slop
>"looks fucking delicious, you're a dipshit if you don't like this"

>>42046533
Where do you fucking live???

>>42046507
can confirm

>>42046497
Good call, I'm sure they used a ton of fat to grease the pan. Thanks man!

>>42046507
Tzaziki sauce is so fucking good, man.

>post in current body thread
>they make fun of me
More fuel to the fire

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>>42046613

>>42041358
Been hanging out with a girl and we've gone out to get food a lot lately, eaten at maintenance the past few days but macros are fucked, gains goblin meme is not a meme

>divide cereal box in X portions
>snack on bits occasionally
>last bowl
>2 or 3 flakes
I brought this on myself

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My first set of adjustable dumbells come today but what exercises should I do with them? I'm jogging 5k atm every other day so my thighs and legs are alright but I've noticed my chest and arms are starting to look out of proportion with the more weight I lose. I'm not looking to get ripped or shredded, just so that I don't look bizarre when I get closer to my goal weight.

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>>42045603
>first one to lose 40 lbs gets to stay in my thread

>>42046167
It's hard to mix those up when there is a three orders of magnitude difference between them. Everyone means kilocalories when they say calories, it's just impractical to measure anything related to the human body in actual calories.

Anybody can spare a copy of Starting Strenght?
I'd appreciate if there was no torrenting.
Also taking all kinds of books (preferably I can find in ebook formats), related to health and fitness that actually have some authority on the matter. I can dig the more scientific stuff, I don't want " 10 ways to get abs in 10 days, by nutritionist Sheila Shekelstein" tier ebooks.

Also, just a tip on where to look for them will be helpful, I can do the sifting myself.

>>42047025
I know in the US a food calorie is a kilocalorie, but is that also true of calories from exercise?

>>42047095
It's $10 on Amazon man. Just buy it. I'm sure someone here will link you, but you know it's worth the money.

>>42047231
I don't have a credit card, unfortunately.
I would buy it just to get a hardcopy if I could.

>>42047009

If I pull those carbs off, will you die?

>>42047231
>I know in the US a food calorie is a kilocalorie, but is that also true of calories from exercise?
Are you kidding? The average person's body needs ~2000 kcal/day, so about 83 kcal/hour, or 83000 cal/hour. Would it make sense if exercising for an hour burned 800 calories? It would increase the amount of fat burned during that hour by almost one fucking percent.

>>42047095
Use libgen, https://gen.lib.rus.ec. It's a direct download site, so no torrenting is involved. Download the third edition, that was published in 2011, use the 2nd mirror for downloading.

>>42047264
You're a legend, mate. I found it and followed your advice. Great help, I hope you succeed in everything you do.

>>42047312
Seems like I fucked up the link though, I don't know why I typed https instead of http.

>>42047320
no issue, I just found the website directly after a search, and figured it out. Got anymore books to recommend?

somebody bake a new bread

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>mum brought home reduced belgian cookies
waiting for her to ask if I want one so I can say no and feel smug

>>42042217
what was your starting routine? i want to get /fit/ and strong but i still don't know what routine i should stick to