/fraud/

Hopefully seeing an endo soon, so what do I ask for? I have elevated prolactin confirmed and I show all the signs of low test but I'm right in the middle of range on that.

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Second for lolis

Any strength training nerds on right now?

Want some opinions on my future programming.

>>41918480
A CAT/MRI to confirm you don't have a prolactinoma

>>41918528
I am in no way qualified but I will give you a second opinion

>>41918542

I don't think my prolactin's high enough for that to be likely but I guess the endo will check

Has anyone here ever gotten visual sides from clomid? Seems like a exaggerated meme

>>41918528
>>41918545

Same here.

>>41918613

Maybe they made the drug testing more strict lel.

Anyone have experience with DNP?

>>41918635

Woops, clicked in the wrong thread.

Kinda new to /fraud/ I know no source talk aloud. What about peptide/research sources? Mod grf, etc.

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>>41918545
>>41918613
Ok bear with me I think I've made it a little complex, but I like training that way, keeps me engaged.

Basic skeleton

ABCD repeated. Day off when needed, I'm good at regulating that due to work, sleep, etc

A slash indicates a superset

A
Hinge/abs
>Deadlift
>Leg lifts

Horizontal Press Accessory/Pulls
>CG Bench
>CG Bent over row

>Dips
>T-bar row/Meadows row

Triceps/Biceps/Delts
>Tricep isolation
>Bicep isolation
>Lateral delt isolation


B
Vertical Press/Pulls
>Push press
>Chin-ups

Squat accessory/abs
>Front Squat
>Ab varient

>Lunges
>Ab varient

Quads/Hams
>Isolations

C
Horizontal Press/Pulls
>Bench press
>Bent-over row

Hinge accessory/abs
>Snatch grip Romanian DL
>Leg lift

>DB one-leg Romanian DL
>Leg lifts

Chest/Rear delt
>Isolations

D
Squat/abs
>Back squat
>Ab varient

Vertical Press accessory/pulls
>Klokov press
>Wide grip pullups

>DB Press
>Wide grip pullups/pulldowns

Delts
>Isolations

Progression scheme next post, too many lines

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>>41919014
Sorry about this wall I promise it won't happen again/fraud/

Progression Scheme
First block

Main lift (pulls and abs just done as I feel is appropriate that day)
>5/3/1 with FSL amrap

Assistance lifts
Cycle through the three
>15rm, then 3-5 max rep sets of same weight
>12rm
>8rm

Isolation
5-10 sets of 5-20, done as I feel is appropriate.

Secondary block

Main lift
>5/3/1 again with Joker sets

Assistance Lifts
Cycle through

>8rm
>5rm

Isolations
>Same


Progress in main lifts based off of how well I do in both AMRAP sets. Secondary lifts progression kinda obvious.

Things I'm wondering about changing
>Another assistance lift on main lift days, think I could handle that sort of volume?
>Any ideas about better rep and progression schemes for secondary lifts?


Thanks for reading my brain vomit.of.a program. Let me know what you think.

This dbol is making my ankles swell up.

>>41919051
:O

High e

Hey bros, I'm 25 and I just finished my 4th cycle. I ran 750 mg/week of omnadren and 1 shot of EQ a week (not sure of the dosage) for 8 weeks. I ran HCG, then clomid 50mg/ day for 20 days and nolva for 30 days. I just finished this PCT and my libido is 0, I have a hard time mainiting an erection as well. I can get it up, but it doesn't stay hard, and my sperm comes out in lower doses than usual. Can you tell me what might be the problem, and what should I try to fix it?

>>41918602
It's well documented but rare.

>>41919014
>>41919045

What a clusterfuck. Is it working?

>>41919101
Your HPTA hasn't fully restarted yet. Give it another two-three weeks, preferably with around 25mg tamoxifen per day.

>>41919141
Thanks, anything else? I'm also taking tribulus but I don't think its effects are even noticeable

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>>41918645
No. Guess u're going to take the shot for all of us?

>>41919175
Just give it time. Make sure your diet is good too, you'll want a lot of fats, vitamins and minerals.

>>41919101
>>41919141
Btw, during PCT my libido was not this bad. Also, I'm not sure but I think I'm experiencing insomnia, maybe that adds to it as well, can messed up hormones cause insomnia?

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>>41919121
How is it a clusterfuck?

I took a gzcl volume scheme and broke it up into 4 full body days (just how I like to train). Basically only changed the main lifts progression.

The idea is that your joints and even nervous system seem to recover easier from various exercises rather than just excessive volume in one exercise and intensity. Look up 'exercise variation and overtraining'

The goal here is mostly hypertrophy and work capacity, gonna run it during a long blast. Then run something like a Sheiko peaking cycle and hit some crazy total for fun.

Currently bulking on a Tren/Test stack, and I'm loving the gains. I've never tried Deca or NPP, but I always hear how much people seem to love it for bulking. The thing is, I love Tren because the gains are nice and dry and I know that what I'm gaining is actual muscle and not a combo of muscle and water weight. Would it be worth it for me to try a Test/NPP stack for my next bulk, or just stick with the Tren/Test that's been working so well for me so far?

>>41919269
NPP will make you bigger but like you said it's water. Up to you.

>>41919361

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. It's just not worth it to me to put on size that's just gonna come off once I lose the water. I consider those "fake" gains. I wouldn't mind the joint support that NPP could provide, though. Shoulders have been killing me lately...

>>41919384
Why not get some caber/prami and run test/tren/nandrolone?

>>41919399

I've actually been considering that exact stack. I didn't really feel like mentioning it because I didn't want to get hit with a billion responses saying "DUUUDE, two 19-nors? Enjoy your lactation, brah huehuehue." I've actually got some Caber already from when I started this Tren blast, but I don't need it on Tren alone. Test P/Tren A/NPP seems like an ideal stack for me -- I'd rely on the Tren and Test for gains and run the NPP fairly low for joint support on those heavy lifts.

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>>41919014
What the fuck is this shit

Any reason not to double my tren to 700mg aside from being a pussy

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I've only taken Test E 250 (10ml) over 2 weeks, I haven't pinned in over 40 days because shipment was late.

My question is - Safe to just start cycle over again and be fully prepared or should I do PCT?

Haven't noticed any swings, wondering If I even did enough to worry about PCT

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hi guise

first time fraud here.on my 4th week of test-e 500mg/week. I have asin on hand.and due to the recommendation that i start asin on the first few weeks, i started 12.5mg (e3.5d) on my 3rd week.and now i feel like shit: lethargic and all.I think i probably crashed my e2.my question is, should i just wait for e2 to rise and give gyno symptoms before taking asin? will it be too late then? and what symptoms should i look out for? itchy nipples?

lump under nipples wont work because i had a mild gyno (not visible) in my puberty and i still have the lumps that arose at the time.

>>41919469

If you don't have any horrible sides at 350, I don't see any reason not to up it if you want to. Maybe try something a little more conservative than doubling it right off the bat... What about 500?

>>41918645

Yeah, go to /r/dnp and read the sticky before you try anything. Even at it's safest usage shit can be dangerous.

>>41919065
>>>41919051 (You)
>:O
I'm laying in bed with my feet raised.

On 25mg of dbol, 25mg also as a preworkout.

>>41919626
High estrogen probably, take some asin

>>41919224

>How is it a clusterfuck?

No visible structure. A lot of work on the same bodyparts on consecutive days over and over. Do you really plan to train squats and deadlifts on consecutive days indefinitely, and train shoulders every day, with any kind of intensity or volume?

If you put a day of rest in between these, or at least go upper/lower, you'll have better results.

>>41919658
>>>41919626 (You)
>High estrogen probably, take some asin
Took one already.

Taking another one.

>>41919712

Might not want to be popping Asin like Pez based on "it might be E2" sides... If you crash your shit, it's going to take a while to come back.

>>41919693
I usually do two on, one off abxcdx

Will take an extra day if unrecovered.

The work is all submaximal, I'm accumulating weekly volume. I like the frequency rather than killing some muscle group completely to death all in one day.

Pick a conservative training max, don't go to form breakdown on anything, etc are easy ways to keep up with the volume but reducing overall fatigue.

Structure is based off of the big 4, ohp/bench/squat/deadlift just split into full body (just a training preference)

I haven't pinned in 4 weeks without any kind of PCT and I still feel literally the same as I did before being on and while I was on. boners still going strong, absolutely nothing wrong with me. I'm not even getting the typical acne from hormone fluctuations.

what's happening

(hopping back on on monday though)

>>41919712
>>41919738
if you crash your estro, just eat more dbol.

>>41919803

Oh, I see. The first post said that you do ABCD repeated, with an occasional day off, so I thought you were just running ABCDABCD etc. until you ran into the ground. ABxCDx is much more reasonable.

As for your actual questions...

>Another assistance lift on main lift days, think I could handle that sort of volume?

I dunno. How's your recovery now? Do you have to deload often?

>Any ideas about better rep and progression schemes for secondary lifts?

If you're doing gzcl style, why not just do it like the T2 portion of that? Roughly twice the total reps of the T1 lifts, adjusting weight accordingly.

>>41919014
>>41919045
I don't know your programming history and I don't know how much you're planning on blasting, but what I do know is that at least for me on moderate to high doses of test (700mg a week) while my CNS/musculature could recover from doing those 4 days back to back, it wouldn't be good for my joints.
I know for a fact that Alsruhe (who I assume you're taking some inspiration from) programs in rest days, and I'm pretty sure that the guy(s) behind gzcl recommend you taking rest days as well. Remember that you can't make any progress if you snap your shit trying to make as much progress as possible during a blast. I think doing ABXCDXX would be much more sustainable/would dramatically lower your risk of snapping your shit.

>>41919738
not on dbol it won't

>>41919738
>>>41919712 (You)
>Might not want to be popping Asin like Pez based on "it might be E2" sides... If you crash your shit, it's going to take a while to come back.

25mg asin is fine. I expected to bloat up on dbol.

Though, I had the hardest erection I've ever had and tore apart my FWB last night.

Since cruising, I produce a fucking ridiculous amount of precum. It looks like a porch of snails for the last two years.

There is way too much steroid and training discussion going on here.

>>41919979
Oh yeah look at my other post here>>41919803

I'm not tryna kill myself.

>>41919895
Yeah could have been more clear.

Not running it yet, planning for a future blast actually. I think I will run as is for.a few weeks and if I feel like I want more then I will add in more.

That rep scheme is from gzcl, it's roughly his recommendation for t2 in j+t.

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>>41920071
I ate too much today
This will never be me

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Man doing a water cut while on dnp is rough! Im noy feel too good! Look shred to bone though lol ready for beach party for sure

>>41920140
WOW ANON YOU WILL BE TURNING HEADS. MIRIN

>>41920151
A
>chest and arms
B
>Back and shoulders (optional more arms)

ABABABX

>>41920151
>10 week cycle

I fucking hate you faggots

>>41920211
I said my first was gonna be 10 too, but then it became 20 somehow.

>>41920151
Test e shoot for 12 weeks. What I did for my first cycle was pin .5 the first 2 weeks.
Regarding routine. I found that heavy volume worked wonders for me.

>>41920224
still going strong 29 weeks later

>>41920140
>birthing hips

>>41920211
I have enough test for 12 weeks, I have a feeling once I get to 10 I'll keep plugging along

>>41920241
Do you mean pin twice a week or pin half the ew?

Hold me, /fraud/. The levels of WTF in this single post are mind-boggling:

>>41920480

I can't wait for each and every one of you to die twenty years early.

>>41920649
I'd rather have 60 years of kickass life than 80 years of mediocre life.

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>>41920649
I cant wait for it either

>>41920649

Why so hateful, natty anon? I have no ill will toward you for choosing not to use gear. Why can't you just accept my decision to roid and be at peace with that? You just end up looking like an angry, jealous guy... Aren't we the ones who are supposed to be so full of RAGE?

>>41920666
>implications

>>41920709
Because of the modern day prevalence of steroids one can't really stand out from their hard work at the gym without roids except for maybe at the deli line. You people make me relatively worse, and I have no way to catch up without very damaging effects. The world would be better if no one was on gear. Steroids in that way are like the prisoners dilemma, and you all fell for it.

>>41918645
Ive used it once and lost maybe 15lbs in 20days. I would honestly rather cut normally it was so unpleasant. I cant imagine doing doses to lose 1.5lbs a day

>>41920091
You cannot afford to not run tren... ever

>>41920772
>judging yourself based on everyone else
Never gonna make it

>>41920823
Everything is relative, if everyone else was twice as string you'd view your strength differently.

>>41920772

I'm sorry man, but as long as steroids exist, there are going to be people who feel that the pros outweigh the cons, and they're going to take them. They work, and they work extremely well. I applaud you for sticking to your principles and staying natty, but you're just going to have to accept that some of us are going to do roids and make those types of gains. In the end, you've gotta be happy with your own progress and not let it get to you, man. Not trying to be a dick here. Just telling it like it is.

>>41919469
Drop test to 200 if you do

>>41919477

>>41920772
>wah wah everyone should look shit like me because of steroids inflating the male aesthetics market

>>41920868
your skinny fat tho lol

if i end my test e cycle at week 10 instead of 12, i can hop on again a month earlier and hit weeks 6-12 of anavar in time for summer

good or bad idea

>>41919477
>>41920863
either way, the point of pct is to go back to normal. you don't pct then start another cycle.

even if your natty test was at literally zero right now (it isn't), the answer is to just start pinning again. you pct when you're done.

(this is incredibly, incredibly obvious and you should know this. consider doing more research before injecting bathtub chemicals into your ass)

I'm not a /fraud/ but I'm wondering if it's fine to use Nolvadex for natural gyno not caused by roids. I didnt really find too much about this online. Thoughts?

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>>41920964
yeah

ralox is better, nolva is easier to get

>>41920945
That's logical. Good looking out

>>41920970
Cheers anon

>>41920964
just self operate.

>>41920945
>before injecting bathtub chemicals
why do roids equate to bathtub chemicals? where dis meme be come from mahn?

>>41921088

you can literally homebrew this stuff with the proper filters and some gso. What do you think all those ug sources do?

>>41920945
What is the major downside of blasting semi-permanently? I basically am on currently and don't really want off, had to take a break and it kept my strength/muscle mass way higher than any natty 3-4 weeks off would have left me.

>>41921128
How do they synthesize the test itself before adding it to the oil? I have no idea how it's done.

>>41918457
I'm glad he could make that deaf girl feel happy.

where the fuck do I get pharma grade shit
not actually asking for sources just sick of something getting a vial that's fucking wrecking my asshole with lumps

>>41921154

that doesn't matter because you can get raws as easily as finding any source online. I'm assuming they use excess runoff from soy oil which is 20% phytosterol and synthesize it somewhat the same way your body produces it.

>>41921194

inject deeper or get a better source, you shouldn't be getting lumps. I do quads and delts and it's smooth now after initial pip and discomfort.

>>41921128
gso = grapeseed oil? couldn't find an answer on the wiki and google search just had the acronym in most places I saw it

>>41921154
Most steroids are synthesized from plant sources. They take a naturally-sourced molecule that's similar to the steroid they need and modify it to turn it into the desired steroid.

>>41921194
Could be reacting to the carrier oil, some people get bad pip with MCT no matter what's in it. Check that out.
>>41921249
Yes, GSO = Grapeseed oil

Should i take anastrazole since day one (first pin)? How much should i take? Some people say 0.5mg eod, others say 0.25mg because 0.5mg is too much.

First ever blast of 500mg test e per week, im not that fat probably around 14% body fat or something

>>41921330
I've always wondered how easy it would be to make test from DHEA.

I know that any retard can put a powder into solution, but to actually synthesise test and put an ester to it sounds like another ball game.

My chest feels kinda hot. Not neccessarily my nipples, but my chest feels alittle burny suddenly. Maybe it's just my nerves?

I'm 3 weeks on my first cycle of test 500mg

Am I needing to get into my arimidex already?

>>41921672
Probably nothing.

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Boy I sure do love vomiting up my entire steak dinner at 1am along with the psyllium husk and pills I took the night before.

What a great way to start the day.

>>41921476
Just say adex. No you don't. I wouldn't recommend taking AI until you have symptoms of high estrogen.

>>41918457
this made my day thank u anon

>>41921672
Due for first bloods in a week anyway.

time to change my BF bulk/cut range to something like 8-12 instead of fucking 18-25

started low bodyweight skinnyfat so I didn't want to look like an auchwitz survivor if i cut first.

4 SCOOPS OF SYNTHOL
2 OR 3 TIMES A DAY
DON'T TELL ME THAT "ONCE A DAY" SHIT
9 MEALS EVERY HOUR AND A HALF
GOTTA EAT BIG TO GET BIG

STEROIDS
MAKE
YOUR FUCKIN DICK
BIGGER
OKAY

DICK
HANG
LOWER
THAN THE BALLS

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>dry spell for 5 months
>decide fuck it and fuck a fat girl from tinder
>going alright
>creampie her
>she gets upset and mentions she forgot to take her birth control today

I dont know the logistics of this shit but if she normally takes bc and just misses one day will I be ok or am I JFMSU now

>>41922161
>Forgot to take "her" birth control

Sounds like a "her" problem

>>41922161
kill yourself you worthless piece of shit

>>41922161
the morning after pill works for up to two weeks.

Kicking her down the stairs is good for 7> months

To take 22.5mg of sdrol for 6 weeks or 45mg for 3 weeks?

How accurate are online blood work kits? Not really sure how to go about getting blood work done in England on NHS

>>41922295
Medichecks have a pretty solid reputation

Although tren messes with something on one, cant remember what though but it makes the test pointless

>>41922161
any responsible girl would have told you that before sticking your penis in. she hopes to get pregnant to sue you for child support, she has probably lined up 10 other guys to fuck right now and picks out the most beta provider to sue.
congrats anon you fucked up, probably got a bunch of stds in the process too

>>41922367
While this is an amusing thing to say, women are just as stupid and impulsive as men. Not ALL are looking for dat baby daddy pay cheque.

Although it is a possibility

>>41922367
Pff, whatever. Why does this board and this generation in general take everything to the extremes of rationality.

A similar situation occurred to me before tinder and fat chicks existed. It was just an attention ploy on her part.

Nobody caught anything, nobody got sued for child support, nothing actually came of it.

Until she actually tells you she's pregnant or she's riddled with whatever, don't think about it, and don't take your concerns online unless you want the maxtreme most dire outcome predictable.

Christ most of you cunts are such a bunch of tough talking shut ins.

Winstrol twice a week, yay or nah?

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>tfw you have less sdrol than you thought
>only 65 7.5mg caps
>Have to order more
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>tfw more gains in 2 months of gym+shitty diet+125mg test than in the last 2 years of low-t perfect sleep schelude and diet lifting

fuck I wasted 2 years because the retarded doctors think a male with the levels of a menstruating woman is normal, ugl self-medicating is fixing me and making me happy

>>41923140
What were your pre trt levels?

>>41923274
total t was between 100 and 300 while free testosterone was 3 in a 5-40 range.

how big a calorie surplus you do while on test 300?500?more?

>>41923303
4k

>>41923288
Must be a pretty big difference now.

>>41923342
I am happy now. the only thing I am struggling with is my appetite which is huge, if I have food around me it's hard to stop eating it

>>41922303

You're probably thinking of Tren falsely elevating ECLIA E2 levels. Unless you get a LC/MS-MS E2 test, you won't know your true E2 levels on Tren.

>>41921476

This is basic info, man. How do you not know this already? On 500mg/wk Test E, you start out at 0.5mg Adex E3D or E3.5D, starting on the third pin. Adjust from there based on E2 bloodwork.

>>41921895

He's gonna need an AI on 500mg/wk... Telling him not to take one on half a gram of Test a week until he gets sides (which he will), is not good advice...

>>41923406
Only cucks need ai

>>41923415

I really should have expected this response... Why the fuck do I bother coming here anymore? Lol.

>>41923406
I've read about people being able to take a gram of test without AI.

It's dumb to start taking AI unnecessarily. Estrogen side affects are temporary and easily fixed in a few days with AI if they occur. Just taking AI for the sake of taking it is just wasting money and pumping more shit into your body.

The whole point of babbys first test cycle to see how hard you aromatise and how much AI you need if any.

>>41923425
Lol.
>>41923435
Plus estrogen is anabolic

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you should store gear in room temperature but what if my room temperature is almost 30°C/86°F?

>>41923645

Welp, you can be pretty confident your gear won't crash. So there's that...

>>41923676
So i can keep it in this temperature? My room is in the attic and it gets very hot in summer, sometimes it's get even hotter than that.

>>41923700

I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do. Personally, I wouldn't want to keep my gear in a room that gets that hot. Hell, I wouldn't even want to live in a room that gets that hot. Maybe it's time to move out and live somewhere that actually has an AC system... As for your current situation, can you think of anywhere else it might be possible to keep it?

Thinking about ordering some BPC 157 as well as ostarine after reading some of the comments last thread. I'm wondering if its not overhyped though. Does anyone have personal experience with it yet? I've done some lgd4033, it was okay but effects are just slight imo. How does it compare?

>>41923770
Just do winny or mast

what are these results guys?

25 y/o


Type Result Units Range
S TESTO 15.8 nmol/L 12.0-31.9
S SHBG 30 nmol/L 17-56
cFreeTesto 333 pmol/L 260-740

>>41923645
I keep mine in a shoebox underneath in my bathroom cupboards.

What would be a good 2nd cycle for recomping at maintenence calories?

Currently on first cycle at 750mg test-e a week, been on for 8 weeks now

>>41923795
I'm super afraid of hair loss, I did a cycle last year (test+eq) and it was great but I want to postpone cruising for at least a couple more years. Now just 24yo student.

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>tfw you have friends

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Anyone else laugh at naties?

>they will never know what it feels like to have god tier gains

>they will never know the tren pump

>mfw

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How fucking long does tendonitis last? I haven't benched in 2 (two) weeks and haven't worked arms for a week. This is horrible.

>>41923835
You are ODing on test, ask the doc for estrogen

how to get clients as pt/coach

how one becomes fraud

>>41918487
I saw a Law & Order SVU episode about a guy who kidnaps a "loli" from a TOR website called "lolitaville".

It really portrays how sick you guys really are.

Glad I never jumped off the deep end with this loli-business.

>>41924203
I always get hard while watching SVU ;)

>>41923457
Just take tons of ralox throughout and intentionally inflate your estrogen.

>>41924407
I get enough estro while using 750 testE, maybe using a gram i will get sides

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Im currenly cutting on cruise 250 mg test e ew, is it worth it to throw in Cardarine for fat loss ? im pretty sceptical about sarms but this one is banned from olimpics so it should work lol

>>41924938
Sarms work, they are just inferior to roids

>>41918645
i just came off from a 14 day "cycle" of dnp lost about 6 pounds of fat, almost didnt work out at all and cheated on my diet like every second day. Just make absoloutely sure to have a fan running and dont do like 2 hours of running. To be honest if you really want to make it worth your time you should just stay active all day, shower multiple times a day if you dont want to smell like shit and dont eat sweet shit. Its fine to eat some carbs but i wouldnt over do it, personally i did find the hunger pretty controllable but i never felt "full" so make sure to predetermine how much you are going to eat.

>>41922240
>45mg of superdrol

Is this retard joking? Even 20mg should murder you if it's legit, that's most people's max dose with 10mg being average.

I'm not but I feel too big what do

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Man, you guys are so serious in here. I just juice so i can be sexy and big as fuark by going to the gym 3 or 4 times a week and then being able to party and not worry about macros and shit. Bitches love a bro looking like jeff seid, but you don't get to experience it unless you go out and party up it up every week.
Unless yall got tiny dicks and are afraid of letting women down lol

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>>41918645
Im on 500mg a day, and it's so hard to make it through my long work days (warehouse package and shipment.) No ephedrine or clen since i get random drug tests, just alot of caffeine to keep me running. Going through 3 gallons of water with electrolytes a day in this hot ass place.

>>41922303
>>>41922295
>Medichecks have a pretty solid reputation
>Although tren messes with something on one, cant remember what though but it makes the test pointless
>>41922303
Know of a good one for the US of A?

>>41925823
There's a list on the r/steroids wiki, I think.

>>41925843
God amongst men sir.

time to rap to BBC porn

>>41925864
Nah real rules and shit there.

privatemdlabs or personallabs it seems.

Are rest days a meme if I'm on tren? I feel like a weak faggit if I take a day off.

>>41926642
>Are rest days a meme if I'm on tren?
No
>I feel like a weak faggit if I take a day off.
You are

Natty here. I lactate is it bad and should i go to a doctor?

>>41926744
Yes and yes

fuckk, this is what i call a motivational video!! NO FUCKING PUSSYY MUHHH ZYZZ MUHH H FUCKIING SKNNY FAGGOY SHIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjKkuSvFuOk

just a big realizing moment that i am more skinny than i thought i was. I was looking into GH, but that shit cost like 220 euro's for 100iu. How much do you need a day to not end up with a big pumpkin head like Kali muscle

Who used this shit before?

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was looking on kevin levrone's page.

stumbled on this pic. He was 13 years old here, natty and bigger than 90% of you faggots!!! LMAO

>>41927134
Is he black?

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>looking at tranny hookers
>have better abs than me

>>41927044
Some generics are testing really well recently

I think theyre still all freezedried insulin tho

>>41927134
don't save 13-year-old black boys' pictures

24 natty male, i got low test and recently im on levothyroxine (T4).
how long should i wait before getting another bloodtest?

>>41927150
Born and raised in Baltimore, Maryland by an Italian-American father and an African American mother

Who care anyway? You faggots use everything as a excuse to be skinny. I have no time to cook, i have no time to train, i have shitty genetics, bla bla

>>41927152
Use it as a motivation jerry, come on a tranny looks more shredded than you? FFSS

The only shit that scares me is the fucking growth of the head, stomach etc.


>>41927157
What are you talking about hypocrite faggot, you are posting 13 year old girls all the time

>>41927273
where are you from?
burgerland?

>>41927265
Give it 2 months

>>41927273
That stomach and head shit looks so gross
So many huge physiques ruined

Im like half pmsfing now
Kinda slow, but I can eat when work buys me food, which is all the time

I need to figure out how to do cardio on this bad ankle though

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I'm like 8 weeks into cycle and my muscles are really tight all the time, what do?

>>41927561
why he looks decent on pictures but looks dyel in videos?

One of my eyes is bloodshot. It's day 4 of anadrol, blood pressure possibly or just a coincidence? Could have done it heacy squatting yesterday too.

Should I worry?

>>41927044
Yo never thought I would find this as pleasing to the eye as I would.
How your perceptions changes based on experience...

Asuming this is going to be your goal?

Our source (if it really is the same) sells some brands but its alot of money for something I have no clue about.

>>41927561
>a retard who doesnt do stretching and rehab work is a bimbo porn poster

Im not suprised at all
But seriously though you should know basic lifting fundamentals like that before roids

>>41927637
yeah I obviously stretch every day buddy

>>41927652
Thats how you know the muscles are growing.

Stretch more, have a nice week of light weights more reps. Do your cardio and don't dirty bulk.

>>41927682
That first line was meant as a shitpost fyi.

>>41927682
thanks bud

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>>41927652
>muscles tight
>"yeah I stretch"

>>41927600
Same thing I thought he doesn't even look like he roids in the vids.

>>41927290
you wanna fight me irl?

>>41927373
whatever it takes jerrY, no half arsed shit.

what happend to your ankle? do some rowing

>>41927626
>your goal
Is the gh from our source trusted you think?

They have some new brand with some black box. 220 euro's for 10x10 iu

>>41927757
Gotta earn that roid money off-cycle somehow right?

(All in all if he enjoys it all the power to him)

>>41927600
>>41927757

Gym locker room lighting is VERY flattering. Angles, closeups, pump, and other stuff can really make a difference as well.

>>41927749
I do though, it's in weird places like my feet, hands, spine, neck

>>41927768
I'd say its legit, pretty expensive (albeit market standard price).
The added description is nice and suggets they like to push it.

When it comes to regular gear everything they've ever sent is legit and I've fiddled around with different brands.

A quick google search makes it seem legit as well. I'm nowhere close to trying hgh, I'd love to let you know otherwise.

>>41927805
Blood pressure or working your way towards a hernia if the spine feels fucked.

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>>41927826
You know that time when Filemon tried steroids and they tested that red/white brand we're both using in the lab. In turned out to be pure af. Why he not use GH for the next episode

I have also tried almost all their brands, but they say that the one with the blue label and stars had some shitty batches. I have read it on dutch bodybuilding forum.

>>41927896
The white/red one is the best out of the bunch by far.
Had one vial that left some nasty pips (tren) but aside from that, never noticed anything off swapping vials.

>>41927896
Which reminds me, our source has no caber or prami, so I always order that one from another source.

Or am I looking for the wrong name?

>>41927984
I remember they had caber, but it was fcuking expensive.

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>>41924037
nah cba what others do

NO SOURCE TALK
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Alright I know I'm probably answering my own question but maybe one of you can answer this better. Do the "legal" steroids that you can buy online actually do anything? To me they just look like over priced pre workout in pill form

>>41928081
Right on the money with that last sentence.

>>41927768
I twisted it on a run
My gyms shit, no row machine, no pool

I hope pumping my onahole full counts as cardio

>>41927805
>muscles in feet n hands
Those are tendons
Might be outpacing yourself

just finished a 20 week test blast but I'm about to lose all my gains because I'm going to be going through police academy and do 8 hr cardio pt sessions
Im so depeessed. My buddy said he lost 20lbs..
Should I keep lifting or will I get rhabdo/diminishing returns.
Should I do some test blast during academy for the hell of it. This has been so demotivaring for me lately.

>>41927896
>pure af

If I recall correctly it was only the least shitty.

>fapped to mother son role play while wearing gfs underwear

now they're all stretched what do

I WANT TO FUCKING DIE

>>41928275
DIE

>>41928275
did mommy finger your tight bum?

God you guys are gay. The meme about roiders being submissive little boys deep inside is true.

>>41928275
Keep em to wear
You know you liked how they felt

Buy a dress to go with them even
It feels even better~

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Natty?

>>41928360
Kill your self retard

>>41928481
You first :^)

>>41928536
Send me your address and lets settle this

First to cum loses faggot

got mired by a quiverful wife at sunday mass today. awkward as hell

>>41928545
221b Baker St, Marylebone, London NW1 6XE, UK
You see soon homo

8 or 12 weeks for first trenA blast?

>>41928564
20

>>41928582
24 seems like a better number, half a year CMON

>>41928560
>London

As-salamu alaikum brother ;)

>>41928598
>yuros are too poor too afford a full 52 week year

Didn't know it was that bad over there yet....

Two questions here..

In King of the Hill, there's an Episode where Hank Hill gets secretly dosed by his Wife of T, was that a accurate portrayal of a cycle, and if you were to estimate his dosage, what would you say he was cycling at?

In that other episode of King of the Hill, where Bill meets those body builders and starts getting ripped, did he start using steroids or was that natty?

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>>41928598
>2011
>not blasting tren for the rest of your life
shiggy

>>41928621
I am not european, i am a dumb thirdworlder bb

>>41928639
I'm on tren TRT

>>41928625

Are you asking what dosages a cartoon was on?

>>41928639
One year trenA, the rest trenE ;)

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Should I get Mediterranean food or Chinese food for muh dinner?

>>41928690
If cutting: Neither
If bulking: Both

>>41928690
>chink food or Arab food

your life sucks

>>41928665
There's fictional goal bodies all the time, and people try to develop a routine for them.

I'm trying to see some options as to some cartoon steroid routine cycles for some potential fictional goal bodies of my own.

>>41928720
drink bleach

>>41928723
I don't even like that anime.

>>41925324
You are a huge pussy

>>41928798
you're one to talk

>>41928816
It worked though didn't it faggot?

>>41928820
not for long

>>41928798
More like Australians have shitty undersides sources and pay twice as much

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>>41928840
We'll see bitch boy

>>41928854
Our sources are fairly decent and reliable. Overpriced because our customs are to border control as jerry is to dakis. Obsessive.

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Who else /delt striations/?

>>41928706
Eh they're both good

>>41928703
B-but I wanted a happy medium of one of them.

>>41928820
Your gf sucked the BBC tho...

>>41928874
Not even the biggest guys take 45mg sdrol and you're skinnyfat. That's how I know your shits underdosed and cut with flour.

You would get jaundice in a week.

>>41927044
Never used it but the broscience consensus is

>Long periods of time
>Makes higher levels of gear more worth it, i.e.gives you more out of multiple grams of test
>When combined with insulin you have the best way to be anabolic mankind knows, usually insulin and gh counteract each other. Suerphysiological doses of both with a strong mass builder like test will blow.ypu the fuck up

>gf was telling me all these vacations and traveling she wants to do
>told her the average person would be lucky to just own a house and have a decent car that runs properly and a small savings

now she's butt hurt. dumb 18 year olds don't understand reality.

>>41927600
Myspace angles

It's what masT does too

>>41927561
>>41927600
bimbo was recruited by chaosmen? l-lewd, I hope I get to see him and vander

>>41929116
Read his profile. It says he's straight and prefers dominant women. Do faggots get off to straight guys?

Also says his 6'5" which is a lie we all know

>>41929159
>Do HOMOsexuals get off to actual men instead of the """"men"""" that the faggot community mostly consists of?
most actually don't for whatever reason but some do

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anyone who experienced roid rage or sth similar? what is it like?

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Where is /fraud/ getting it's Melanotan-2 (MT-2) these days? Enhanced Chemicals seems to be out.

>>41929159
is his chaosmen name the same as on Men? I forget what it was

>>41929229
Tren actually give me anxiety makes me jealous etc but also more aggressive. I feel like I would easily fight some faggot which I would never have down when I was low test.

>>41929271
>tfw got loads of moles after dosing 1mg spread over 7days

Dropped that shit real quick, was not expecting that at all. Feels fucking bad man cos i definitely could feel the tan coming on too.

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>>41929276
So I had really bad insomnia for a week and a half (not while on any roids, just cruising on 200 mg test) and I got really irritable and anxious.

I was just thinking, is it possible that the aggressiveness from tren is from the insomnia?


Also for >>41929229 : No if anything they all make me calmer and more confident.

The more confident you are, the less you tend to get frustrated or upset so if anything, they calm you down.

it's when you come OFF that people get "roid rage." You get all emotional and shit and it really sucks.

That's why people permacruise/permablast. Some of us (I'm including myself) aren't mentally strong enough to take being low test, even for a few weeks.

>>41929229
I didn't rage off steroids and I don't rage on tren. I break down and cry instead.

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Tell me about your first cycle.

I'd like to hear your experience. The bad, the good, etc

>>41929413
I'm doing tren and anadrol my first cycle. I've gained ~15 lbs first month. Doing 8-10 weeks.

Inb4 Reddit butt hurt muh 500 test

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>>41929429
Holy shit are you getting stretch marks?

Also tren and drol? No test?

Have you done any liver tests?

>>41929275
anyone?

>>41929491
TRT test, 150mg. No stretch marks, got bloods before my cycle. This is my first week of anadrol so I'll get new bloods at the 8 week mark and if I'm alright I'll run tren for another 2.

Only sides are shitty sleep and some acne on shoulders

is acutane the only means of getting rid of the nasty roid zit back? I can fix face and front with benzyolperoxide but not muh back

>>41929413

Did Test 500wk for 3 months and finished with dbol 75mg/day last 2 weeks.

Was great gained like 15 lbs which like 7 was muscle.

gib bimbos screen name

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>>41929229
no such thing as roid rage, ur just a cunt.
>>41929320
happened to me 2

>>41929625
you gained less than 50/50 ratio of muscle to fat on steroids over 15lbs in 3 months?

lol

If I haven't started losing hair yet should I bother with finasteride on my first cycle, which would be test only 12 weeks

can test or mast lead to a person having a shorter fuze?

>>41929584

Mirin

What was your base? Did you start out with a decent body already?

>>41929625
bunk gear or bad diet methinks

>>41929271

lovemelanotan
thats where i get mine from, and Aus customs even opened it checked it and let it through rofl.

Works quite well.

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>Gymbro insists you don't need PCT on Dbol
>Other Gymbro insists you do
>Articles online say yes and no
Fuck, do you lads do PCT on Dbol?

>>41928957
Fite me irl

>>41929623
Selenium or some shit is supposably good

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>>41930253
dont do anything drug related would be my advice

>>41930253
don't run dbol alone, idiot

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>Immediately after first pin: hey this isn't bad at all, I was told this would be sore but I feel nothing
>Two days later: Sore like the first time I ever went to the gym

Pain is just weakness leaving the body, r-right?

>>41930253
1. you dont run run dbol only
2.
>I want to keep more of my fraud gains post cycle
do pct
>I'm a poorfag and or don't care about post cycle gains
don't do pct

REALLY want bimbo's porn name right about now

>>41930460
git gud at pinning

if it hurts more than a few hours after injection you're doing it wrong

>>41930627
How do I get better at pinning (aside from the obvious answer of "practice")?

Also I was told there would be soreness since this is my first pin, just wasn't sure how long it's supposed to last.

>>41930627
"no"

virgin pip can't be avoided

>>41930658
He's retarded. Sometimes pins are just sore. Sometimes there's something in the gear irritating you.

>>41930627
this is quite literally the opposite of how pip works. it hurts later, not when you pin

>>41930658
take it slow, abort and change location if there's too much pain (you will learn eventually what "too much pain" is)
also go for some newbie spots like ventroglutes

>>41930675
>>41930681
ah my bad I assumed he didn't use shit tier oil

>>41930627
>>41930688
>change location if there's too much pain
this guy has never injected anything

>>41930695
>ah who cares if I ruptured anything, just push it in lol, why even aspirate
t. you

>>41930725
when people talk about injection pain, they aren't talking about literally slicing open their skin with the needle for fun. there is no pain when you inject unless you are a literal fucking retard, this has nothing to do with pip, the soreness feeling, infections, etc, etc.

also aspirating is fucking retarded and so are you. stop larping in my thread you natty cuckold

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>also aspirating is fucking retarded and so are you. stop larping in my thread you natty cuckold

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>>41930755
I want to lick her pits so bad

>>41930773
Typical white american cunt

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>>41930725
>>41930755

>>41930789
shes not 1/8th black so not typical white american

>>41930172
>>41930204
Thanks duplicatepostbro

>>41930773
which one is that posted this. the one on the left?

>>41930838
obviously

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>>41930838
The one of the left
Id kill to get in those pits.

Garrett is the #makeherday fedora guy
I love these comments

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Please red pill me on dick frauding.

I know about ligament surgery, which supposedly only increases your flaccid length (who cares) and jelking constantly for years running a high risk of damaging your dick permanently. Hgh evidently does nothing for your dick according to the studies I've read and it's too late for anything-dht related post puberty. Did I miss anything? Am I out of options?

>inb4 synthol

>>41930863
dds

>>41930931
you were born a dicklet and you will die a dicklet

>can't sleep properly at night
>body temp up
>sweating like a pedo in a pre-school, at gym
>strength is up
>fullness and vascularity up
>zero fucks to give about anything but how great I am

The tren kick in lads

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>>41930939
Qt

>>41929116
hope so

>>41931009
No wonder she chose CHAD who has HEIGHT, FRAME and FACE

>>41931009
is that the same girl?

>>41931087
He doesn't really have height or frame tbH, average in those. Slightly above average in face but nothing remarkable.

how to cheat at cutting worse than appetite suppressants, even on dnp i have 0 hunger:

eat 0 solid food. just do a PSMF with protein powder only. by not eating food I am not triggering my "feeder instinct" or some shit like that, I have 0 desire for food. at midnight it will be the end of day 3 where I have eaten 0 solid food except 164g of chicken, which was a giant mistake.

i tried to test whether or not I just had willpower or this 0 solid food thing was working, but holy shit. I ate that chicken, and became fucking RAVENOUS, it took so much restraint not to eat my ass off after that.

afterwards i went back to no solid food, hunger is completely gone. on 250mg dnp too. at least if you cut like this you don't have to do it for more than 2 weeks, instead of starving for a long time.

only thing is I feel weak, but not hungry at all.

>>41931127
it works, but don't forget your psyllium husk for your fiber and your multivitamins. also possibly fish oil. a whey only diet without supps will make you head straight for malnourished city

caffeine pills also help

>>41931127
i have tried psmf with actual chicken before, it was constant pure torture, always felt starving to death and couldn't stop daydreaming about food

this liquid version though is 0 desire for food, just feeling weak.

I even tested this sense of hunger, it's not from lack of EXPOSURE to food. I found an open bag of chips and some good ass food, and started taking in the scent. still had 0 desire to eat.

but eating disgusting plain chicken made me completely inhuman levels of ravenous

>Eating under 1500calories a day
>48oz chicken breast and 2oz almonds

>Weighed in at 214lbs average for almost two weeks straight
>Look bloated as fuck and skin looks strang/saggy around waist

When the fuck does the water leave and I can see my results so far? 6'3" with an active job and weights+cardio 4 days a week. My tdee is like 3500-4k I should be losing 3-4lbs a week easy.

>>41931185
only day 3 so i didn't bother taking vitamins yet because i never thought it would be this easy (thought I would give up), but now I will start since this seems very easily sustainable

the day I come off this though in about 10 more days I am going to take a shitload of ephedrine and inject 2mg of melanotan though, so I don't binge 50k calories once I get a taste of food

>>41931108
Yeah

>>41931110
>average
Post your chad face

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>>41931225

>>41931216
Thats 3 days with basically no micronutrients.
On pmsf take supplements ed

>>41931251
Mirin

Is fish oil a meme or does it actually help cholesterol

>>41931268
yeah i know i have to i just thought i would wind up pussying out and binging

>>41918645
It's miserable, but if works if you stay strict. Keep a gun handy if you overdose.

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>>41918457
That was super cute :3 Thanks OP!

I need a good bimbo pic with his head in frame (non porn)

someone help

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>>41931419
Take a selfie ya bimbo

NEW

>>41931487
>>41931487
>>41931487

>>41918457
>currently running a 16 week cycle
>test e (400mg/wk) and tren ace (350mg/wk)
>im 6 weeks in and feeling great
>but my German shepard is skinny as fuck and i want him to bulk
>i will have 10mg of tren left over and 5mg of test
>my pupper weighs 95lbs (half my weight) and is 2 years old
>would putting my dog on a 10 week cycle of say 200mg/wk of test and 150mg/week of tren be to much or to little?
>i dont want to hurt my dog i just want him to get ripped as shit and fuck all the bitches at the dog park while getting equal mires from dogs and humans


TL;DR
how much tren should i give my dog?