/fraud/ - I don't have any fraud related pics edition

>>41904281
https://bodymaxing.com/2016/09/14/first-steroid-cycle/

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>Forgot to put /fraud/ in the subject line again

I'm gonna fucking kill myself

>dnp day 5 update

still no sides halfway through day 5

just fapped and my cum is yellow

not pure yellow but theres definitely a noticeable tint

>>41904281
In retrospect I probably shouldn't have made a new one until people needed it. Otherwise it's gonna die in like 10 minutes.

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>>41904281
is cutting on 250 mg test e ew enough not to lose muscle or is it worth it to increase the dose to 500 mg ew

>>41904422
Let's keep it alive then.

Which reminds me....

Guys, 600mg Deca is going to fuck you up, I ignored it now I have a gyno lump kek.

Gonna blast that shit out with Femara.

Cut is going well. No fucking drive or energy at the gym but I don't feel awful otherwise and I'm losing fat faster than I ever have before.

Only 3-4 weeks to go and I'll be shredded as fuck at this rate, provided no major slowdowns.

Then I up test from cruise, add tren a back in, and slowly start ramping up calories.

So fucking excited. I completely fucked my first blast by being too fat. This time around I can bulk properly and actually see the results, instead of being covered in fat and water constantly

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>>41904512
Gotta blast (dem nips)

These threads talk about illegal and very unhealthy stuff, right? Why are mods allowing this?

>>41904604
If all else fails surgery :-)

You're going 500mg test right?

>>41904623
If we were selling or giving sources to get this stuff, it would be illegal. But discussion isn't illegal.

That'd be like saying talking about smoking weed is illegal.

>>41904633
That's the plan.

>>41904623
hey man, I'd be dead without roids.
Healthy is in the eye of the beholder.

DNP threads are fine tho am i rite?

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>Blood work comes in, im in 290 Test Range
>second blood work done in morning, 340 Score
>doctor says im in normal range for 26 year old

decide to self medicate. pic related every 5 days.

how long do i keep doing it for?

>>41904701
Go with E, inject once a week at 200mg.

>How long?

Until you die

>>41904701
its good to take a break from roids once i year imo, i feel dehumanized if im for 9months straight

200-250mg is perfect test dosage, great strength gains, recomping

>>41904701

when I hop on the TRT cruise I'm never stopping. 150 mg a week should put you around 650-800 ng/dL total test

with those quantities I think subq is the way to go. if you blast with 300-500/week go IM

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>>41904701
Inject a gram of Test into your ass every other day until you die
>>41904722
Pic kinda related?

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>>41904776
>3.5g test a week

LIGHTWEIGHT BABAY WHATEVER IT TAKES

>>41904281
Since i start take protein shake bpi best smors and creatine dymtize i start have headach and tiredness. Should i stop one of them or both?

>>41904722
im guessing E stands for testosterone enanthate?
what would be the difference in the two? dont they both raise T?

>>41904755
>600-800
sounds good to me, im not doing it for the Gainz. just for the stability and normalization. waking up with a boner is a thing that hasnt happened since early high scool

>>41904870
Test is test.
What I'm describing is the ester.

Google, now, you are NOT ready for roids.

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i alredy had gyno surgery. can i have it again due to gear?

>>41904870
Just to add, they dont raise, they replace.

>>41904902
Correct me when wrong, don't they remove the glands that cause gyno?

If so, no more gyno?

Any of you niggers have experience with bpc157?
Is it actually worth trying?
All the "logs" I come across on the internet, even old ones, are never updated.
Does it give them turbo cancer or something?

>>41904902
I didn't know they sold test with a pack of cigarettes, I'll have to get in on that deal.

>>41904870
I'd recommend doing a little research before sarting. Test is test, yeah, but the difference in esters is important. The reddit link in the OP should have all the info you need, but googling a little bit wouldn't hurt either.
Also if you're going for a self prescribed kind of TRT, then the answer for "how long" would be "your whole life" since your test levels will likey always be low, assuming your excercise and diet are in check. That's what TRT is.

Good luck my dude, I wish you the best.

>>41905010
>poor cunt somewhat knows what he's talking about now
they grow up so fast

I'm so proud

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>>41904701

Same thing happened to me, though my levels were slightly higher. Fucking criminal of the doctors to do nothing, in my opinion.

Make sure you don't have a thyroid tumor or something before jumping to self-medication.

Start with 100-150 mg/wk for TRT, split into two doses.

Some people can go 200-250, but not everyone. It generally puts you above natural levels (maybe 1200-1300 on a scale of 300-1100), which can cause some long-term health issues involving health markers like lipids and RBC. Or you might need AI, which also has long-term health repercussions.

You're going to run it forever, basically. Some people like to come off for a month or two every year, while others like to just run HCG for a couple of months to wake up the balls.

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>>41905216
>somewhat
It's not hard to go from completely retared to slightly less retarded if you just lurk the threads and read a bit. Also I wanna stop anyone from making the same big mistake that I did.

B-but thanks anon.

How much additional lean mass do you guys normally get out of adding a dbol kickstarter to a test cycle? I know the weight gain would be much higher because of bloat and stuff, but I'm wondering about gains in lean mass. Haven't used it before.

>>41904936
idk thats why im asking

>>41905397
Honestly? Like .5-1lb a week. Maybe more depending on how hard you bulk and how well you respond.

Test takes so long to really take effect, it's not just blood levels but the upregulation of all the proteins and everything that test signals in the body. A Kickstarter is never a bad idea.

Is it worth fasting to lose fat if you're on gear? According to the scientific studies, fasting results in almost no muscle loss, compared to a fair bit from a caloric deficit. You also stop feeling hungry after 3-5 days.

Considering the steroids all but nullifies the muscle loss anyway on a cut, is it worth it, just for the fact that you stop feeling hungry, considering that's the main reason my cuts die off after a couple weeks?

I'd be fasting for a couple weeks. Supposedly the best way is to fast until you start to feel hungry again.

>>41905458

Ok, thanks. I'm really looking forward to it. Won't be for another couple of months, though.

>>41905430
Christ man, you let them cut into you and don't even know what they actually did.

You then come to a mongolian shit shoveling website and expect a quick answer.

Google it.

>>41905465
Recomping on roids is a thing. I've made some of my best gains while losing fat.

>>41905581
I'm this fag >>41904600

I would not recommend a recomp while on anything except tren, and even then I'm not entirely sold. But that's mostly because I haven't tried it lol

I tried to recomp on my first test e blast, I wasn't exceedingly fat just 16-18% (obviously fat as fuck but not obese is what I mean). I fucking wasted so much time on blast for that bullshit. Yeah, I did end up recomping. But barely and it wasn't worth it. Gained a total of 5-10lbs and lost maybe 4-5% bf at most. Over a period of 16 weeks.

Diet was on point. 1-1.5g/lb bodyweight protein, 30-100g fat (depending on protein choice, usually closer to 50g) the rest carbs from rice, cereal (not sugary it was wheat cereal, 0g sugar), bagels, etc at 14-16x total bodyweight for calories. Obviously lifted a ton. Could've done more cardio/conditioning though, and probably more volume in total but I was addicted to 75-90% 1RM work at the time.

>>41905787
I have the easiest recomps on a small stack. Yes Tren is amazing but some Deca, Mast and Var work wonders as well.

All in all, I'd rather have some very minor gains with fat loss then just fat loss. Makes me feel tiny if that makes sense.

>skip tren, say Ill stop pmsf
>next day pin tren, do pmsf
It keeps happening


>>41904755
>650-800 ng/dL total test
Maybe if you have underdosed test

>>41905430
If they removed every little bit of the gland youre gucci
Even a bit left and it can regrow
You need ai anyways though

>>41905465
Like a 1 or 2 day salt water fast isnt unheard of for some extra shreds

>>41904308
>make new thread just then
>realise one already exists
>cant delete shit on my mobile for whatever reason

We're both retarded

>extreme back pumps on 100mg anadrol from just walking my dog

I'm scared to do back day if it feels like this just walking around

is there a drug i can use to shut up that tiny littly whiny voice in the back of my head? fucking hate that negative son of a bitch and tren just makes it louder

>>41906245
Therapy

>>41906245
Modafinil does it for me. Allows me to stay focused on the task at hand and I constantly feel I want to be active

>>41906022
I've seen a lot of sources with verified gear showing a ratio of 5-6x dose to test, ofc if you combine with either compounds, e.g. Deca you can get to 8x or more

what is your estimate if you dose at 150 mg a week?

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>>41906114
There's no one else I'd rather be retarded with, Crusader.

https://www.t-nation.com/workouts/bodybuildings-next-frontier

About to go on test and saw waterburys high freq method, would this be a good workout while on Test ?

>>41906446
Furry namefag

Jfc what the hell else is gonna hang out in /fraud/

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>>41906527
>furry
That's a talking space rock, not an animal.
#owned

>>41906527
probably some little faggot who hates women and thinks his waifu is real

oh right

Hey /fraud/, I know that steroid usage isn't recommended for young people because of all the hormone problems. However, I was wondering if there is any kind of safer/low dosage cycle that would work better for an 18 y/o. Any advice?

>>41906527
>religious nutcase
Check
>gay pornstar
Check
>mentally ill bitch who miscarried
Check
>Drug addict who should be dead
Double check
>whatever the hell masT is
Check

There's too many characters to keep up with

>>41905397
>>41905539
>dbol
>lean mass

If you want non water balloon gains look for a dryer oral. On a side note idk why everyone reccomends dbol to newbies who dont know their ai dose or estrogen sensitivity

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>>41906594
Jasper is real, she's just always helping Santa at the North Pole and never has time to visit me. Also the only woman I hate is my mother for bringing me into this god awful existence.

Please love me Jasper

>>41906294
response rates aren't linear. a 6x response on 500mg doesn't mean 6x on 100mg and 3g

check out blood reviews on sst or r/steroids for a better ballpark. it varies a lot from person to person, but 8-10x is a lot more common sub 200mg

>>41906650
No. Running AAS will shutdown your natty production and possibly fuse your growth plates.

So if you're willing to accept being on TRT for the rest of your life and being your current height forever, go ahead.

>>41906650
>I know I'm too young to do steroids, but can you tell me how to do steroids?
Please wait. Even a low dose could fuck up your endocrine system for life, not to mention potentially stunting your height growth. Then you'd be the eternally low test manlet, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
>>41906656
>mentally ill bitch that miscarried
Well, formerly. I don't suppose she'll be posting here anymore since you guys scared her off. She was pretty dumb to do that though.

FUCK IT FRAUD

I KNOW I SAID I WAS GONNA WAIT BUT FUCK IT IM GONNA DO IT NOW JUST GOTTA MUSTER UP THE COURAGE.

FUARK

>>41906889
Stay safe. Welcome aboard, the ride never ends

>>41906669

Well I'm primarily training for strength, and dbol is good for that.

>>41906889
I hope he says yes~

>>41906294
What the orher guy said
Dosed that low 8-10x is a better ball park

God dammit I didn't know I was this scared of needles fuck

How the fuck do I do this I'm shaking like a motherfucker

>>41906981
Christ you're a little bitch just jam it in or I'll ban you

Holy shit that was easy.

I feel like a bitch now, my bad guys.

>>41906962
Goddammit jerry you're such an asshole.

He rejected me </3

>>41907072
I still shake sometimes just due to it hurting from all the scar tissue. But you'll get used to it congrats!

>>41907120
>just due to it hurting from all the scar tissue.
dude it's time to switch sites lmao

>>41906741
>>41906704
But I'm already 6'1'

If I stopped growing now I wouldn't really care and I probably already have because of marathons and shit

Do I really have to wait until I'm 25? No gains past natty dyel for 7 years? Jfc

>>41907120
Th-thanks guys.

Although I was told there'd be like an ache or something. It doesn't really ache so I dunno, did I fuck up?
>>41907137
It's for the best, lil nigga.

>>41907137
Not until your 25. I'd say 20.

help.

I went to inject test into my quad, felt abit more of a sting. I aspirated, think I saw a small bubble but no blood. When I pulled out, a small squirt of blood followed the needle. The hole was bleeding alittle bit but I applied some pressure and its stopped. No blood has happened before.

Did I inject into a vein or something?

>>41907196
Sounds like you nicked it or something.

>skinnyfat blonde personal trainer teaching a male how to lift

Must be easy to get certified

>finish cruise cut at 5'8 172lbs
>feel puny compared go lord illidan so i go on blast
>1g test 800mg eq a week plus 40mg sdrol a day
>my muscles feel bigger and im leaner
>feel weird and hungry even if i eat 3k cals a day

damn, takin this much gear at my size really catapulted my metabolism and partitioning

>>41907219
That's what I was thinking. It's all good correct?

Also kinda curious what would happen if someone injects right into a vein. everyone says you dont wanna do it but always wondered why

>>41907261
extreme pain and possible death

>>41907174
Then why is everyone else saying 25?

>>41907269
>possible

>>41907129
>>41907169
Yea your right I'll start hitting delts some I guess, quads are just so easy. And no ache right now you might feel some discomfort tomorrow but you'll be fine.

>>41907257

Had to google Illidan. What are you gonna do to match those forearms?

>>41907280
They are gainz goblins

>>41907261
Homie I literally did my first pin like five minutes ago, you need to ask somebody else.

>>41907306
aw man I just pinned too we're pin buddies now

>>41907301

>forearms

nigga have you seen his deltoids and arms? only mortal with something that insanely large and defined would be roelly winklaar in his best condition

>>41904447
get your bloods senpai, "anabolic" test levels are something like 1700+
ps it's super super fucking hard to lose muscle even if you are natty. Just keep training and eating right don't worry about losing lean mass too much

>>41907359
>pin buddies
That's fucking gay

I love it

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>>41904308
Atleast it didn't autofill your real name and email like I've accidentally done before but never submitted.

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I just realised that the whole thing about supplements being shit, and you have to eat food because it is the real deal with the real micronutrients and stuff fucked me over.

I was avoiding supps because of that meme (which is true), but in short I wasn't getting what I needed at all because I hate eating, specially that much, and all that food would have been prohibitely expensive.

Now I bought whey protein, egg protein, creatine, vitamin c, spirulina, a multivitamin, and chia seeds to have every day. But I feel I am still trapped in a dank meme, watching shadow figures in a cave, while you guys are out having the real fun.

>tfw can't /fraud/
>tfw don't know if I'll make it

>>41907261
>if someone injects right into a vein.
depends on what you're injecting and what amount
like .5mg test straight into the blood isn't going to kill you, but it will make your heart beat insane

>>41907169
>I was told there'd be like an ache or something
first pin ever and cos your on 4chan im assuming you didn't get a pump in the muscle group after

wait til tonight you'll feel it

>>41907421
Nice job buy $100+ of supplements when you could have just got chicken breasts and a multi

>>41907418
Can't tell if this is a joke or srs...
>>41907461
Ah man, I thought I'd get off easy or something. Oh well. It's gonna feel like DOMS isn't it?

>>41907618
That's the thing. If I spent the money I spent on supps on food I couldn't eat it all, plus it would have been much more money. I am saying that all those supps are probably jack shit compared to the hormone treatments you guys do

>>41907633
Yeah nah, first pin injection into a new site fucking sucks. Given your injection technique is probably something to be desired. You're going to get a fuck ton of pip in a few hours and last for a few days. But after 2-3 weeks of injections you won't feel a thing on test. Tren just feels like I've just been punched in mass everyday.

>>41907280
Because it's the most safe bet. But you're injecting questionably sourced bathtub chemicals. It's a fair thing to say that safety isn't a top priority to you. Also I'm biased since I started at 20

Tried to order a shoulderok while it was on that cosmetic blemish sale but shit sold out in like 2 minutes. Made my own with 3/4" gas piping and what not though. Not bad considering it would have only cost ~30$ even if I didn't already get it from work. Free versus 200$ full price. Seems to work pretty well. Would recommend to anyone with shoulder issues or anyone that benches heavy in general.

On a side note I feel like I'm fucking he-man swinging a sword around. I probably look like a swole sperg though desu

>>41904722
why recommend e when it's a slightly shorter half life than c, then recommend once a week?

is there a way to be a natty fraud?

I took 50mg of dbol, first time ever taking it.

Didn't lift today. Gonna lift tomorrow and take 50 pre workout.

Only effect I got from it was I'm hella fuckin hungry, which could just be from riding my bike around in the cold. But I do seem really abnormally hungry (ate a big dinner, 2 hours later I'm hungry again).

Like I said, no othet effects though. Not really any more horny. No psychological effects.

Sound legit?

>>41908171

Enanthate and Cypionate are so similar, in terms of biological half-life, that they are interchangeable. However, I agree that once a week is a poor suggestion. E3.5D is a much better choice for stable blood levels.

>>41907120
>all the scar tissue
aren't you like 18
wtf man i thought you were dumb, but not this retarded.

>>41908188
It takes a few days, famm

>>41908188
You're not going to notice the effects of most orals the first time you dose them. It still has to reach peak levels in your system before you really feel it. I'd wait a week at least, anything you're feeling is probably placebo.

>>41907445
could also give you a fat embolism

>>41906656
>implying I'm mortal

>>41904972

BPC-157 is magic.

no meme

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>>41908288
Here's my natty fatty physique now btw

>>41908304

holy shit bro

what are you doing no hate

>>41908310
In treatment for 7 weeks no pct no gym garbage food

No excuse for this but it is what it is.

Give me a couple weeks and we'll revisit this.

Still seems like I'm too broke for gear but diet is good again and back in a gym since Tuesday

>>41908334
>In treatment for 7 weeks no pct no gym garbage food

I was in jail for 8 months no PCT no gym garbage food and I just starved and did calisthenics and was shredded as fuark tho

>>41908304
holy fuck that is a retarded amount of mass lost for such a short amount of time

>>41908352
I ate a ton. Still hit calisthenics everyday but I was in Louisiana and all we got was fried pork and mac and cheese.

I ate a lot of fried pork and macaroni no regrets no remorse.

>>41908296
Reading about it and the shit just seems like magic. Is it really that good?

>>41908363
I think the sepsis and hospital time with practically zero food contributed to my rapid deflation.

REGARDLESS ITS TIME TO GET FREAKY AGAIN.

I lost 15 lbs and gained fat please put a bullet in me.

>>41908381

Yes.

BPC-157 is a 15-amino acid long peptide, and a part of a naturally occurring peptide in the human stomach (BPC-157 is derived from human gastric juices). It is a signalling peptide; it signals for certain processes to take place in the body.

BPC-157 protects the body from injuries, and also helps it heal previously acquired injuries, and is currently undergoing human trials[1] . This is a list summing up most of the benefits this peptide is known to have (Source with citations) (4 of the references are not in the main source and were individually added):

Blood Pressure

BPC-157 increases blood pressure in rats with low blood pressure.
BPC-157 decreases blood pressure in rats with high blood pressure.

Potassium Imbalance
BPC-157 protects from heart failure in a state of hyperkalemia (potassium overdose).
BPC-157 protects from heart failure in a state of hypokalemia (potassium deficiency).

Calcium Imbalance
BPC-157 protects rats from damage (heart failure, pancreatitis, peptic ulcers) induced by hypercalcemia (calcium overdose).
BPC-157 protects rats from calcium channel blocker overdose.

Magnesium Imbalance
BPC-157 protects rats from hypermagnesemia (magnesium overdose).

Wound Healing
BPC-157 significantly improves healing after the following injuries: skin incisions; deep skin burns; various anastomoses as intestinal wounds; diabetic wounds; various fistulas; various tissue transections, particularly ligament, tendon, muscle and nerve. Healing time of all these injuries is significantly decreased with BPC-157 administration.
BPC-157 prevents scar tissue buildup after injury, and reduces already existing scar tissue.

I wish spot reduction was a real thing

I don't even care about my fat body while on this bulk, just my fat fucking face dropping me 4 points of attractiveness

>>41908408

Immune System
BPC-157 modulates the immune system activates macrophages in the immune system, which leads to increased production of growth factors that fight infections, ultimately strengthening the immune system.

NSAID side effects and toxicity
BPC-157 effectively reduces the side effects and toxicity of NSAIDs, particularly gastric, intestinal, liver and brain lesions, prolonged bleeding and various behavioural disturbances - all of these are significantly antagonized by BPC-157 administration.

Alcohol intoxication
BPC-157 prevents and inhibits the effect of alcohol acute intoxication, withdrawal, and acute and chronic gastric and liver lesions.
Antidepressant activity
BPC-157 has antidepressant effects in rats; it reduces immobility time in a forced swimming test[2] .

Opioid system
BPC-157 reduces withdrawal symptoms in morphine-addicted mice.

Dopamine system
BPC-157 reduces motor abnormalities and hyperactivity induced by the dopaminergic neurotoxin MPTP.
BPC-157 decreases chronic amphetamine-induced behavioral disturbances[3] .

Serotonin system
BPC-157 is effective against serotonin syndrome in rats[4] .

GABA system
BPC-157 significantly decreases diazepam tolerance, physical dependence and withdrawal symptoms in mice[5] .

Anti-cancer activity
BPC-157 significantly prolongs survival of rats with carcinoma and melanoma B-16 cancers, from 25 days to 45+ days.

Gastric ulcers
BPC-157 prevents development of gastric ulcers.
BPC-157 heals existing gastric ulcers by reducing the ulcer area and accelerating the rebuilding of glandular epithelium and formation of granulation tissue.
Inflammation, pain and body temperature
BPC-157 successfully reduces several models of acute, non-specific inflammation.
BPC-157 acts against temperature decrease (i.e. water immersion test) and increase (yeast- induced).
BPC-157 increases pain threshold in carrageenan test in rats.

>>41908418

Diabetes
BPC-157 increases healing of skin wounds in diabetic animals.
BPC-157 prevents fructose-induced high blood pressure.
BPC-157 inhibits the development of insulin resistance.

Nerve injury
BPC-157 improves healing of a transected sciatic nerve in rats, which is particularly shown as faster axonal regeneration.
BPC-157 strongly decreases the consequences of animal brain injuries induced by a falling weight.

Antiviral activity
BPC-157, given before infection of rats with hepatitis A virus, Lymphatic Choriomeningitis (LCM) virus and herpes virus types 1 and 2, completely prevented all signs of infection and disease.
BPC-157 given to rats after viral infection delays onset of disease symptoms and decreases death.

>>41908428
So the shit is magic.

Is there anything about auto-immune diseases?

>>41908563

idk but probably, it literally just fixes all the things

I get 5mg for $12 so I take it constantly.

>>41908577
Guessing there's no long term trials conducted yet?

>>41908610

It's been around quite a while

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Just did my first hcg pin while on trt, how long til big cums?

>>41908577
I've never seen it drop that low. Only reason I haven't picked it up. Imma mail you bro

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> enter shower at 7pm
> spend two hours straight fapping in shower
I am truly a god among men. Thanks test.

>>41908649
>>41908577
nvm found it

>>41907969
Post pic of your setup?

>>41908244
If yiu pop 50mg of dbol every day indefinitely, the amount in your body becomes about 55mg after an indefinite amoint of time.

Really no difference.

>>41908242
We'll see. I dont know why a drug that instantly enters the blood and goes from 0 to 60 in terms of blood levels in an instant would take a few days to work.

1 week into TRT and my appetite has skyrocketed boys

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Because I'm retarded and have autism, here's this.

>>41908859
Because your cells need time to react to all these extra androgens and upregulate whatever proteins they need.

>>41908950

This was me, massive needle phobia. Except there was a lot more sweat running from my armpits.

>>41908964
I forgot to add the part where I was breathing heavy in mine and my brothers shared bathroom and he was nearby while I was going through all of this.

He must have thought I was taking the most extreme shit in the world or something.

>>41907297
christ, what size needle are you using that causes that amount of scar tissue??

>>41908577
Fuck it I'm ordering some. Gota glute sprain or tear that keeps recurring, annoying as fuck

>>41908352
shit, chem you went to jail what happened?

>>41908950
Didn't know you were a drawfag

If i pin my ass for example at 10 am and my next pin in 3 days will be at 7 am or 13 pm, would it fuck up my test levels or i don't have to be so precise about pinning time?

>>41908950
shit nigga, i hope you frontloaded
might want to pin again to get your levels up ;)

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I felt like I was getting a cold so I bumped my cheat day from sunday to today

i decided to have my first cheat meal in 9 days too

now I feel slightly less sick but I have bad diarrhea

>>41908232
>>41909070
I'm 21 bro faruding since 17 on and off, and I used to pin quads with 21 gauges for the longest time now I use 25's

>>41909266
not at all.
some people win it all once a week for various reasons. prob not the best way but you're fine no need to be autistic

>>41907421
>>41907644
>Spending $100 on supplements instead of TEST E

Jesus lad are you some kind of special?

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>>41909208
The shttiest drawfag ever. Tough this $300 tablet might say otherwise. Drew this yesterday and kinda proud of it.

But this is a thread about ass chemicals. not drawing.

>>41909305
damn. ya i bet 21's will do that, those are big aren't they.
even 25's are a little big too right?
i'm thinking about doing 27's

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Started first cycle today. Excite

>>41906656
God. I'm a God.

>>41909431
if snake were a cat person I'd like this

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>>41906656
>tfw stable married life

>>41909565
I've been staring at this comment for like twenty minutes and I can't tell if you mean like a cat-human hybrid, or if you just mean that snake has a preference for cats.

>>41909724
i think you injected into your veins accidentally and your brain went to poop

>>41909724
Read >>41909842

But also i am laffin youre o k

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250mg dnp at bedtime for 2-3wks
500mg tren e wk
250 test wk
very low carbs, cardio 20min 5day/wk
probably best shape i've been in ever. will have saucy vacation pics in a few weeks, prob do before after comparisons

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is it possible to drop body fat % (in terms of not losing fat but gaining more muscle mass to fill out the body) while bulking on sterons? Because i don't know if i should try to do a fast mini cut for a week or two or just eat as normal and wait for anabolics to do their magic.

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>>41910167
it depends on what you're taking really. low doses and not much sterons wont magically recomp you.
if i was you starting, cut really hard, get very lean then grow lean

>>41910167
Yes it is. Should you? No.

>>41910053
How the fuck do you sleep? In a freezer?

>NEW BIMBO VID
>NEW BIMBO VID
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https://www.bitporno.com/?v=FFKWQO4J9M

>>41910286
i've done it at 500mg a few times, so 250mg doesn't feel too bad. i just have a cold drink and crank the ac.
i do wake up a lot sweaty af and randomly throughout the night

>>41910248
my first ever blast and i would like to gain as much mass as possible but on the other hand i don't want to get fat like i did previously on natty bulk. Im planning to cruise after since my natural T was low so im hoping i will maintain as much mass as possible.

>>41910341
I started with the same kind of backstory too.
if you gain fat easy, and want to be shredded and big i'd go with the stay lean approach.
it sucks, and i typically get gut mode when i slack too just throwin my two cents bud

whats best serm for fat retard who wants to lose weight?
or what is best roid? im already using salbuterol + caffeine

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fraud,is there any drug that speeds up digestion? I feel like a hippo after even a small meal and can't get my daily cals in.

Digesting drug plox

>>41910383
At this point i don't want to be shredded. I just want to get as big as i can but i don't want any gains in my lower abs gut. I wouldn't mind being on the fatter side as long as this area is flat

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>>41910476
forgot pic

>>41910465
You could try eq that enhances appetite.

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if you guys were to take a guess, how many cycles would this guy have done?

Going to attempt gym back on Monday. Want to get on dat Sdrol again to make up lost gains. Been off it for about 4 weeks. Good idea?

>>41910402
None. Or at least nothing that aromatises.

DNP is your best bet, don't kill yourself.

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>>41910465
apple cider vinegar helps. have it before a meal.
also you could get those like enzymes or whatever?
>>41910476
well that all comes down to where you hold your fat. i hold it in the same spot, even have loose skin in that area from gut modes.
>>41910505
not really a matter of how many cycles as how long he was on, what he was using, how much. could have just been one big long one with bridges n into other stuff.
.
gn /roid/

>>41910465
pineapple has enzymes in it that help with digestion. don't know if its a meme or not considering proteins will denature in stomach acid.

>>41908408
So it truly is magical.

Thanks for the heads up, time to get a boatload of this shit.

Do you take it orally or something?

>>41910294
bimbs suckin dick
gay

>>41910465
mk677

>>41910763
He still claims he isn't bisexual in the least and is a successful day trader who doesn't need the money

Also has claimed to be anywhere from 6'4 to 6'7. He really is a pathetic liar.

how do I get paid to fuck sissies on film?

>>41910819
I would suck a girl cock for free..

>>41904420
Any notice of weigh loss yet?

>>41910819
make a profile on model mayhem with nude modeling listed, no joke. it is where porn studios go to recruit.

>>41908304
Gr8 natty
8.5/10 would mire again

>>41908408
Is this stuff for bulkin or something?

>>41909460
>are the orals effective?

>>41910882
It's for injuries.

Unsure if it could possibly be used for enhanced recover time for muscle growth, most likely though.

>>41909460
>UGL Ai

Wew buddy. Hopefully your adex isn't halo

best ai's?
aromasin seems expensive and the others do the same but less frequency of use needed right?

>>41910967
If you have a respectable UGL brand you should be fine.

>>41910811
i believe he once claimed that his hairline has remained intact from all the steroids he has done.
that video does not confirm this.

>>41911165
I just think it's not worth it. AI isn't super expensive and it's not hard to get pharma grade at all.

>>41910763
>>41910811
>>41910294

my bad thats not even the right video, here is the newest one

https://freeporngayhdonline.com/2017/06/caspar-wright-raw-bareback.html

>>41908352

This is my worst fear 2bh

>Access to gear suddenly cut off due to crazy circumstances (thrown in jail, lost in the wilderness etc)
>Shut down hard
>Life and death situation
>Hormones of a pubertal girl

What a nightmare. Imagine trying to survive in the pen while being shut down very hard. Probably happens to alot of crims who recklessly use steroids.

My 15 year old brother plays basketball and wants to get as tall as possible for bb. He is currently 6ft and has found studies that show MK677 allows for further height increase if the growth plates are still open. Anyone got any input on this?

Can the pain/soreness after injecting a muscle for the first time move around overnight? It's kinda annoying. Went from right side of my thigh to on top of it.

>>41909460

Clear your damn notifications

>>41911685
man up you fucking piece of shit

>>41911548
There are no studies that support this. He can take it but it won't do anything noticeable. Given that he's already 6' at 15yo he will already be pretty tall.

>>41909204
Something about being high on acid and breaking into his neighbours house

>>41911685
You've just empirically proven it can.

>>41911758
Shut up, virgin muscle PIP is fucking painful.

>>41911839
Alright, we'll probs give it a go (might do it with him haha)
Im trying to do research for him but im pretty fucking retarded it seems, any chance it'll fuck up his endocrine system or his hormones?

>>41904739
You mean to have shitty hormones level for months or just cruising?

>>41911923
Small chance the biggest problem with it is high blood pressure and decreased insulin sensitivy which in long term damages blood vessels and nerves, in short term and depending on how big the effect it probably won't do much.
Positive effect is appetite and comfy sleep for most (personally I get horrible sleep on it).
Don't expect much from actual height increase but it won't hurt

>>41911967
Alright, we'll probably run it for a max of 2 months and see how it goes. If you got any more info i should know of or any tips or anything lmk. Thanks tho, rlly helpful :D

>>41908577
>CHEM is a king of knowledge
>Thinks taking drugs that increase angiogenesis long-term is a good idea

Pick one, /fraud/

>>41906741
>Well, formerly.
She'll be back once she relapses. Once you got past her attention seeking nonsense she could be kind of fun, she should have expected the abuse since, if im not mistaken, she also dished some of the same flavour out to JM on more than one occasion

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Just take the Trestolone anon

It is what the cool and knowledgeable kids take now

Do you want to be with the cool kids or with the people who recommend SS+GOMAD?

BUY THE MENT ANON

What do you guys do with a hangover? I was up for 26 hours doing nothing but drinking, showered, pinned test, went to sleep and woke up now having easily lost two weeks of gains.

I'm gonna take today off the gym just for once to kill stress and make some goals, and I'm going to make a resolution to read a classic book (not today though).

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>>41911257
All that link seems to do is images/pop ups

>>41912600
I don't drink

>>41912600
>drinking while on cycle
>drinking period
??????

>>41912600

We don't get them. Having a beer or two won't hurt you, but getting to the point of a hangover is putting some real stress upon your body on top of the gear (dosage dependend).

DO go to the gym, light weights, high reps, nothing too stressfull. Drink a shitload, eat some food.

Please don't tell you pinned drunk.

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>last night
Hey thisnoinning stuff is easier than I thought, it's not sore or anything
>this morning
OH SHIT IM FEELIN IT

>>41913539
*pinning
Remember that phone posting is cancer, kids.

>>41908957
Never heard that before, and that makes perfect sense

Everyobe syas its due to concentration in the blood but thats such BS.

Fraud is smarter than reddit by a lonshot desu

>>41913707
lmao no this general is a shit show

Currently blasting 500 mg Test E a week. Thoughts on going into a cruise of 150 mg a week when this is over and then starting an 8 week NPP blast after 4 weeks of cruising?
I want to try low test/high nandralone. So like 150/350 and build up to 700 I'm thinking.

>>41914409
time on = time off

>>41914409
I would use 500 test/npp
>>41914590
Cuck

>>41914735
You're ducking your life by only taking a few weeks between 3 months blasts

>>41909401
I spent more than 100 bucks.

I can't get any roidz here.

Should i take anastrazole since day one (first pin)?

How much should i take? Some people say 0.5mg eod, others say 0.25mg because 0.5mg is too much

>>41914870
Where

>>41915169
Listen retard, dose is dependent on what and how much you are taking. Also how fat you are. How are we supposed to help you dose when you leave all this out?

>>41915210
im sorry, i forgot about that

first ever blast of 500mg test e per week, im not that fat probably around 14% body fat or something

When I end my cut in 3-4 weeks, assuming everything went according to plan I should be below 10% bf, the first time since I was a youngster on Adderall. I really don't want to rebound.

So that said, is it worth it to reverse diet?

Right now I'm eating about 260g protein, and 2oz almonds a day, with 400-500g clean carbs on Thursday.

The plan would be to add in an extra 100g carbs/day each week. Up until I start noticing significant fat gain, and adjusting from there.

Does this sound reasonable?

at 300mg test e and 150mg mast e what kind of muscle mass gains will I make per week as compared to natty
and i'm not talking about water retention or glycogen or w/e

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Coming to the end of my 7th week on Tren and Test. Lean mass and BF% stats from my Withings scale. Am I doing it right?

>>41915761
Too many factors.

Training, diet, rest, genetics, etc.

Drop the mast, no need for it on a first cycle. Up the test to 500mg/week. Add an oral for the first 4-6 weeks, and the last 4-6 weeks.

>>41912781
MasT when you get a chance can you give your opinion on this?
>>41915727


Thank you

>>41912781

Yeah, not worth it. Increased aromatization and liver stress when you're on gear? Not a good idea...

>Day 6 DNP

So it's definitely not bunk

Down 5ish lbs on the scale, it's not digital so it's kinda hard to judge the notches

DEFINITELY feeling the heat today lads. Its 12 degrees Celsius (54F) and I'm sitting on the couch sweating like it was 30+

Tonight after work (nightclub) there's a going away party for a manager; open bar. I'm gonna limit myself to like 2/3 drinks. Man, alcohol has been so hard to put aside. It seems like every couple of days there's something fun going on and I feel so much pressure on me to drink. I'll definitely stay hydrated though.

If you don't hear from me by tmrw consider me dead from dehydration, alcohol, and dnp.

Also, FWB has been wanting to smash but my cum is yellow and idk how to explain that to her. Any advice is greatly appreciated

>>41915761
>>41915780
If you're lean by the end of the cycle (you shouldn't be if you're making use of that high test but whatever), like 12% or less, masT could be used as a finisher instead of a second 4-6 weeks of orals

>>41915826
>Why is your cum yellow
>Lol i dunno, does it taste like lemonade??

>>41915776
I gain 20 lbs a month when bulking you little cuck. Do you even EAT?

>>41915984
And most of that is probably fat. Trust me Ive been there. Not the best way to do it. Bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint. It's all about making small consistent gains.

>>41916004
Eating a shitload on a bull and then running a couple weeks dnp is the best most efficient way to gain muscle

>>41915984

That's lean mass on the graph, man, not total weight. 12+ lbs of lean mass in 7 weeks...

>>41916004
>bodybuilding

lmao gayyy

>>41915780
>>41915827

im mostly just trying to undo damage to my body from my hormones being so off for several years. i maybe have been at 300-400 ng for 5 years or something and I think a good amount of test and a dht derivative to possibly undo a little bit of that damage. training along and making great gains with this will just be extra.
I'm thinking about doing test the first few weeks to get to know it and then adding in the mast and cruise for a bit on that and possibly blasting every once in awhile, not sure.

>>41916004
Fucking this, I'd rather make less gains looking great year round insteaf of being a fatass with a few months to shine in.

>>41916021
While you're doing your shitty DNP cuts and wrecking your body even further I'll still be making my gains.

>>41916059
Honestly that's one reason I started. Felt like I was under-androgenized from being a fat lazy teen.

High testosterone will do enough on its own, trust me.

>>41916072
>Le dnp poison meme

Jelly that I can gain twice the muscle you do on a bulk and lose all the fat in two weeks on DNP little guy?

>>41916072
Not him but you are a manlet, of course you can't bulk like a real man

>>41916134
>DNP poison meme
Yeah thats why people actually die on that shit right?

>not if you do it correctly
A small error could be life and death and you know it, you might be responsible for your use but its a risk everytime, same goes for gear really.

>>41916140
Want some peanutbutter with all that jelly you turbo-dyel?

My sister is transitioning to male and is giving swim some free T. What's a safe dose? I'm a totally noob to this

>>41916174
Don't get mad little guy, you are still pretty SWOLE right? No homo

>>41916174
You sound the same as the anti-steroid crowd with your dnp memes. You die if you take too much of anything.

>>41916134
Please post your physique.
Oh wait you won't because you look like shit

>>41916215
I'll be swole one day hopefully.
I don't know anymore.
One day Piano man looks small to me, other days even Omarl looks pretty buff to me.

>>41916216
Quite the opposite, DNP is just one of those extreme things you shouldn't brag about.
It rubs me the wrong way, with all the extreme precautions you have to take.
Overdose, drinking, dehydration, heat could all cause death.

I've never touched it tho, just things I read.

>>41916271
Post your pic, i remember you looking SWOLE, BIG and THIGHT or maybe i am thinking of chem... alzheimer is making me think all manlets are the same or something

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>>41916319
Just for you, make my evening (or break).

>>41916340
certified midget

>>41916349
I'm going for swole mole mode thank you very much.

Also post physique or I'll just have a chuckle at the dyel that you are.

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>>41916340

>>41916370
You look like you've lifted a couple months.

>roiding for this

>>41916340
Looking good but i was thinking of chem, what are you running? We are all gonna make it bb

>>41916390
500mg test, 400mg deca, 400mg Mast.

A couple of weeks in so Deca is finally starting to do its thing.

>no matter how much manlets lift the second a tall guy walks in the room they are right away seen as the alpha

How do they cope?

>>41916405
>running mast with two aromatizing bloat compounds

Dumb midget

>>41916422
I bet you're quite the alpha male. G'day to you sir

>>41916435
If anything the Mast is benefitial you dumb fuck

>>41916405
Nice i will be adding 300 mastp a week and i am running the same deca and test as you, it's gonna be my first time using mast how do you like it? Don't let this fags get to you, looking good bb

>>41916463
retard

>>41916486
These retards never really get to me, if they tend to get close I'll just check the url and remember its 4chan.

I like Masteron, it might be placebo but I feel like I look alot less bloated with it.
I could drop it, so only do it if you've got money to spare.
Aka, its more about the mindset and cosmetic purpose for me. It never hurts to add.

>>41916519
Explain to me then oh wise one

>>41916534
Exactly. /fit/ has the biggest crab in pot mentality that I have ever seen. It's a huge shitfest that occasionally misses fraud but they manage to creep in every now and then.

>>41916126
thats good to know it will help.
i am in my mid 20's though so i hope that its not too late to undo this stuff.
you also think the mast won't help at this very much?

>>41916534
Yeah i am going to use it to lose some water and see how it works for strength, hoping it will work like a non liver toxic winny

>>41916578
Glad you agree.
I tend to make positive comments on cbt photos that are well on their way to making it but not quite there yet.
Those tend to get shit on the hardest, as if you're not allowed to make it.

>>41916636
Good luck man, if its not working bump it to 400mg, then see if it works and just drop it if it doesn't.

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Rate my next blast

1-20

Test E 500mg
Deca 300mg
EQ 400mg

Deca and EQ for their 'lightness' since it's a long blast, and the joint/collagen support.

1-4/6
Anadrol 50-100mg (depending on bp and appetite basically)

Standard Kickstarter

14-20
Tren A 350mg
Anadrol 50g

Start reducing calories slightly, aiming for a recomp or small cut. Not sure about anadrol here, I put it because the plan training-wise is to be in a strength block at this point, and drol blows my strength up like nothing else in this world.

Goal is to put on lots of lbm while staying under 15% and hopefully finishing around 12-13% (if not lower, not too much experience with tren to know how well it will lean me out)

Thoughts?

>dyel Pajeet tells me my knees are going past my toes while squatting

Except they weren't faggot go back to your 20 lb db bench. This is how I picture most of /fit/

>>41912781
Stop copying me utter faggot

I drink occasionally, no problem with that. No reason to overdo it if you don;t want to fuck you up.

>>41916340
Good hair genetics

wanna meet up to make a porn movie

>>41916534
I like masteron too.

I never went of it

>>41916670
I would avoid mixing tren with deca.
Just do a deca stack now, bridge if you must and finish with Tren.
1-16 with the deca stack
16-20 250mg test only
20-(24 or 26) 250mg test with Tren A of choice.


I've had some nasty gyno flaring up combining the two multiple times.
Might just be me tho.

>>41916705
what is it with manlets and masteron

>>41916705
Hey not trying to spam you but because you're fucking awesome I'd like your opinion on this
>>41915727


Thanks

>>41916705
Hair is thanks to your PSO, Saw and Biotin. Just a bit thicker but makes all the difference.
I owe you for that one.

>>41916705
How much mast were you blasting and how much are you cruising? Thanks bb

>>41916713
Hmm, I kinda like your second protocol but 6+ months on blast seems like a bit much. I think I'll stick to the plan and just be prepared to drop the tren if I end up with problems. Thanks though.

Exgf is now just gf

Fuck you bimbo

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Can anyone explain the difference between these 2 tests? Specifically the difference between IA and LC/MS/MS after total testosterone?

>>41916778
>following a gay pornstars advice on getting girls

>>41916801
But I didn't. That's the point.

>>41916801
He didnt follow Bimbo advice, he is still a KEK but not that much of a KEK

>>41916778
Have you come to terms with her getting dick while you were broken up or are you still under the impression 20 year old college girls go more than a few weeks without dick LMAO

Do you think his dick was bigger

>>41916778
>>41916807
Congratulations man, don't fuck up this time, remember how much she really means to you.

>>41916773
Yeah its a bit longer then I estimated.
Good luck, hope the Tren works out for you.

>>41916736
I am trying to follow you, but i have a hard time doing so.

What is your question exactly? Try to use as little as possible words

>>41916737
I never lied on the internet and never will.

>>41916743
did blasting 400-500mg once, but it gave me crazy paranoia attacks. I am on 100mg blast and cruise dose.

I saw no difference body-wise. Only fucked me up mentally hard

>>41916860
mast plz reply >>41916792

>>41916860
When are you going to do TREN? Are you scared to get too BIG? CMON

>>41916860
Currently eating about 48oz chicken breast/day with 2oz nuts for a cut.

When I'm done cutting, I don't want to get fat again immediately. So every week I'll eat another 100g carbs a day until Im bulking

Like this
Week one
48oz chicken, 2oz nuts, 100g rice per day

Week two
48oz chicken, 2oz nuts, 200g rice per day

...

Week 4
48oz chicken, 2oz nuts, 400g rice per day

Etf. I will keep increasing carbs until I notice significant fat gain. Is it worth it to ramp up like this or am I wasting time?

I almost bench as much as I squat, I do both once a week what the FUCK

>>41916947
ass to grass nerd

>>41916947
Same, i asume you have horrible flexibility like me right?

>>41916897
test is test, there is no difference.

>>41916900
I want give you guys a chance to compete with me, i mean come on me on tren. What could possibly go wrong

>>41916923
Inevitable to not gain any fat at all while bulking. You have to accept that offer. Just eat as clean as possible. Doing that together with steroids will keep fat gain at minimal.

Clean food/clean bulking. Don;t be scared to gain some fat, i mean you get some gains in return. It's way easier to lose fat than gain muscle.

>>41916975
Yeah. F-flexibility is for faggots..

>>41916958
I go to parallel but it almost ends up being a good morning because I have no hamstring mobility

Is it possible to get pip from different ethers? Ran sust no problem, switch to test cyp this cycle and get pip with a knot like a bitch two days after first pin. First time ever injecting cyp. Body not used to foreign substance? Never got it with sust though even on my first cycle.

>>41917015
I don't mean that I think I won't gain fat. I'm just wondering if you ramp cals up slowly coming out of a cut, or just go into a bulk straight up.

There's lots of broscience that says ramping carbs slowly will mean less fat gain immediately after a cut. Wanted to know if you thought that too.

>>41916676
The knee thing is a normie meme not a big deal if they go a little past your toes.

>>41917055
Just go into it straight up.

Not that i am aware of. I just go from keto to adding carbs to each meal when i bulk.

The only logical reason to add something is when you feel you stagnate.

>>41912317
how is long term angiogenesis a bad idea?

Sup, /fit/
Anyone ever tried HGH? what are your thoughts?

>>41917121
You don't feel extra bloated and like you pack on fat quickly the first few weeks? I feel like people report that a lot, but who knows how much is just water retention for anabolic purpose.

Thanks masT. I still think I will ramp up butnot as slowly.

I plan to be as big as you if not bigger someday, so keep growing so I have to keep reaching further. Favorite trip here by far, best mindset

>>41917171
>mast
>best mindset

He's legit mentally ill. Looks good for a manlet though.

>>41916860
high mast caused paranoia??
really why is that. i thought it made people feel good

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>>41917171
Depends on the compound. I noticed some minimal fat gain after some weeks, but the fat remained the same after that.

It's always to do what you think is best. Maybe that works good for you, maybe not. Best way to find out is just to try it out yourself.

You will, i know it.

Here i was on my fattest, could still see some abs and definition on my arms while being on high carb for +4 months.

Don't be afraid for some fat, it's easy to get rid of with some HITT and keto

>>41917218
I even have it with test above 750mg. I wish i had no gf, so i didn't had that fucking beta cuck cheating paranoid feeling. I rather have less gains that feel that beta cuck feeling ever again.

>>41917299
Too bad you still have a gay obsession with black men no matter the dose

>>41917299
Mirin'
What do you do for forearms?

>>41915200
Argentina senpai, custom laws are super strict with this new government. They open and revise every single package that you order from other country.

>>41917320
too bad you have an obsession with being dyel no matter the dose

>>41917332
wrist roller, everyone should do it.

>>41917389
how many sets/reps/days a week and with what weight?

>>41917299
Trust issues aren't caused by hormones bruh it's probably from spending too much time on fit.

>>41917377
Just get a prescription

>>41917492
>hormones don't mess with your mind

Ever had a gf on her period? That's all hormones. Go shoot up more heroin junkie faggot

>>41917377
You can get roids easy as fuck here you dumb nigger

>>41917136
Why do you want to take HGH?

>>41917580
Micropenis

>>41917542
Just lol if you don't mix your roids and morphine in one shot you pussy fakkit

>>41917457
2 times a week 5 sets till failure worked for me. 2,5kg is more than enough, trust me.


>>41917492
I don't feel like it would ever get seduced by your inferior feelings.

The paranoia is no joke, it's a real thing.

>>41917716
Aight cheers friendo

Favorite compound btw?

>>41917542
Someone's mad the KING IS CLEAN AND BACK AND FATTER AND SMALLER.

>>41917542
I can't just walk into the doctor's office and tell him to prescribe me this and that, he will immediately see what is going on.

>>41917565
???
What do you get, where, and how?

>>41917961
Just googled it and I found in a website it said "Venta bajo receta", so how am I suppoused to just buy it? Raid a Farmacity with a shotgun?

>>41918048
Are you for real? Ibuprofeno is also bajo receta... Just go to a pharmacy, try to not look autistic and ask for testoviron, if they say no go to another, chain and big pharmacies are more likely to say no

>>41913539
TAKYON

>>41918142
Aight senpai, I guess there is nothing to lose by just asking. I would much prefer to take whatever via oral though. Is it true that roids work less well being taken with pills than with injections? Or that is just a meme?

>>41918272
Oral steroids shut down your natural production and are liver toxic so you can only use them for 6/8 weeks, you lose almost all the gainz while recovering. Read the Reddit wiki pls

Any strength training nerds on right now?

Want some opinions on my future programming.

Going back on sdrol. Feeling your forearms just constantly pumped makes you feel godlike

>>41918342
I didn't know there was a roidz sticky out there, will google it later. Thanks for the help brosef

>>41918439
No problem, stay safe bb

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