/fraud/

Death to naturals

2nd for guys who don't roid during their prime years are retarded.

How much deca for joint relief? Would 200mg a week be enough?

>>41501869
150mg is the apparent theraputic dose for deca. 100mg for NPP. Just general estimates.

200mg is a comfy dose.

please stop posting crusader, I will say a whole rosary

>>41501893
>a whole roasary

What is this? Amateur hour?

>>41501893
>>41501910
*march upon the holy land for glorious triumph

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>>41501893
>>41501910
im slightly drunk and this rubbed me the right way

>>41501910
I even googled the name.
is that wrong? the prayer where you say the same thing 50 times and it is in 5 segments of 10 or something.
Normally when someone dies I think.

>>41501924
I went to an australian catholic school with nuns. Had to say a buttload as penance and made me completely reject the idea of religion from day one.

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>>41501924
just

>>41501882
Thanks bb

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>>41501924
>>41501910
>>41501893
What

is natural lifting a meme?

>>41502039
the biggest

>>41502039
If you do it right for like 4 years anything after is a waste of time imo. Better off maintaining than trying to add those 1-2lbs per year

>>41502039
for the first 2 years its maybe still okay after that its pretty fucking shit.

>>41502072
so if it takes 4 years natural how long does it take on gear?

>>41502079

8 months, in my experience. Worth it.

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>>41502079
kys

>>41502079
If what takes 4 years? I dont understand the question? Im not v smart

>>41502092
lol, no wonder natural lifters are so pissed off at steroid users. Less than a quarter of the time....

>>41501787

Where can a Canadian get gear online? I know you can't tell me directly, but can you tell what sites allow discussions on this?

>>41502119
reddit

>>41502096
He is talking about his genetic potential.

>>41502079
Depends man. If you're going solely for hypertrophy and follow a proper program? If you start lean at like 150 you could get to 200 at 10% in like a year-16 months.

The key with roids is getting around the negatives. Like the prime age to start lifting is 18 IMO. Get a good trainer, pickup some yoga and keep your shit straight. When your 21-22 you can start roiding and probably not fuck up your endocrine system to bad.

Especially if you're going test only which I highly support. The auxiliaries do more harm than good.

I am natty I really don't know what I'm talking about here. 21-22 is still pretty young on the endocrine system.

>>41502119
SST. If you have half a brain you should be able to find what you need with that. As far as I know canada's ugls are still pretty fricked up

>>41502119
Reddit or Darknet.

>>41502133
Ty. Was just busting his balls. If he is too lazy to form a proper sentences i'm skeptical on him reaching genetic potential with gear or not

>>41502151
lol giving a fuck about grammar on fucking 4chan. what a fag

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my cum is white again

>>41502125
>>41502146
>>41502134

Thank you, brothers

Advice to anyone considering steroids who has never done it before, take it or don't, I don't care, I just felt like I should share my experience:

Things that seem like less than steroids are often worse. Prohormones are worse for your liver. Things like clen and T3 seem less scary than steroids, but you might as well just do steroids. I know that these things are often used in conjunction with steroids by people of different experience levels, but they are also a stepping stone to steroids for some. Clen is bad for your heart. It's bad in the long run like steroids, but it also makes my heart race when I take it and makes me anxious. T3 at the low dose I used to run it at would make me sleepy and hungry. I would use it to lean out, and it made dieting even more excruciating. After about 2 months on, I would have to nap during the day and wake up not feeling rested. When I do test, regardless of the long term consequences, I feel great. I feel strong and assertive and energetic. If you want to mess around with clen and shit before you do steroids, just do a cycle of test instead.

>>41502360
Cool

>>41502448
story

I'm on day 9 of my 4 week 75mg anavar only cycle and I've already gained 3-4 lbs on a 500 cal deficit. Probably glycogen but who cares I look bigger ottermode here I come. So much for this "suppression" meme.

>>41502490
suppression takes a few weeks you'll be shutdown at the end at 75mg a day 100% faggot

>>41502490
lol

yeah you'll keep all those sweet glycogen gains once you come off...

>>41502535
The water is probably from the creatine 10g a day which I started at the same time. No noticeable strength increase yet but I get killer pumps after only my first set.

>>41502529
Nice meme kid

>>41502546
Youre gonna feel like dog shit in 5 weeks. I cannot wait.

>>41502571
I'm starting TRT in 6 weeks after I satisfy my doctors clomid kickstart autism so doesn't really matter now DOES IT memer.

>>41502588
what's ur doc gonna say when ur test comes back at 0 after 6 weeks of clomid? prepare your anus

>>41502588
>my doctor is autistic
I hope he actually gives methyl e

Still bootyblasted my doctor put me on 6 weeks of clomid just because I'm 22. I wonder how many people get bamboozled by placebo and think the clomid solves low t. He claimed defy medical has hundreds of people on clomid.

>>41502652
its the cheapest way to "treat" low t.

welcome to insurance basics 101.

>>41502662
They don't take insurance I pay out of pocket. I don't have insurance anyway I'm American

>>41502662
So the issue truly isn't his "autistic" doctor; he's just poor as fuck.

Lmao @ him. Jesus what a stupid fucker.

>>41502675
He wouldn't give me injections until I tried clomid because of the infertility meme. Injections are cheaper anyway this European faggot is dumb.

>>41502671
>too beta to refuse the doc

well what the fuck then? you're paying nigger, tell him to fuck off.

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>>41502693
F-FUCK YOU

>>41502691
I'm American, I can just afford niceties.

>>41502696
Jesus you're fucking lame, no wonder you need hormones to feel like a man.

>>41502691
infertility isn't a meme while on TRT or a blast it's real. but typically it comes back when you get off, unless you take HCG which your doctor will probably make you take since you're 22

>>41502697
Health insurance is a meme. Insurance companies wouldn't exist if they didn't get more money from you than you get from them. Not worth it if young and healthy.

>>41502305
the tren has been making my piss neon yellow

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Anyone else get acid reflux when taking orals on an empty stomach?

>>41502720
No, insurance companies wouldn't exist if there hadn't been a whaling and shipping market 200 years ago. Insurance exists to spread the risk of loss across a large population in order to diminish cost.

Insurance is no more a meme than actually going to the doctor is a meme.

some new reddit lab advertising 240 iu of hgh for $200

what are the chances it's olive oil

>>41502738
It's spreads out costs to the young healthy white males while Shaniqua gets gastric bypass surgery.

>>41502739
our fictional character steroid simulation does not discuss sources

>>41502753
Then you memed yourself

>healthy young white make
>needs the hormone replacement of a man 65 years his senior
>healthy

Really makes you think.

>>41502754
I didn't name a source. Hgh is typically 6-8 dollars per iu.

>>41502764
you might want to check your ubits pal

>>41502754
since when was this faggot rule?

>>41502762
why are you even here. fuck off to your natural aesthetics thread you piece of shit

>>41502785
I'm not natty, you're just a fucking retard
>clomid
>var
>trt

Who are you? David foster wallace? You just got infinitely memed you stupid prick.

Doctors are kikes and I hate them. Most don't know shit about testosterone and get offended when I call them out like cops who ask if you're a lawyer when you won't let them search your car with no PC. Pure butt hurt.

>>41502810
im taking orals day 9. no ai . no pct. shutdown is a meme much like estrogen rebound. tier 1 trolling

>>41502817
>AM I BEING DETAINED???

>>41502827
Whew lad. I wish you the best of luck, I really do but I'm glad you've chemically castrated yourself. We don't need more of your clan.

Thanks for our civil duty.

>yfw retarded genetics cleanse themselves

>>41502817
gp, im callin u out

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>>41502827
>dry compounds
>AI

I'm sorry you fell for the Reddit test base suppression meme

Will Test increase your heart rate?

>>41502843
im going blow an extremely potent hcg load down your faggot throat

>>41502849
If you get fat

>>41502856
You won't and you can't afford me lmao

Fuck I'm so excited for your body to fail.

Lmao @leafcucks they have 0 verified domestic sources and have to pay $60 shipping from china AHAHAHA

This is what you get for electing weedman

>>41502845
im sorry i didnt know anavar doesnt aromatize bc im not a woman who takes anavar

>>41502869
im so exicted to be 12 and trolling for the first time

>>41502879
we have one

also multiple other boards with sources

>>41502691
Does anyone else think its odd that the doctor would pescribe clomid rather than hcg?

>>41503133
no

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>at work
>heart rate at 121bpm

This is actually cause for concern.

>>41502720
Nigger. Insurance companies aren't a meme. What they do is called risk pooling. People are naturally risk averse and nobody can accurately predict their need for healthcare or house insurance etc. So people pay to be risk averse.

Insurance goes all the way back to Chinese traders on the silk road who would all carry equal parts of each others good so that if one caravan was raided, the loss was minimal rather than completely losing everything you had.

>>41502738
Insurance companies as a thing started after the Great London Fire.

>>41503183
Doesn't change the fact the average person pays more into insurance than he gets back. Or else they would make no money.

Won't have any aromasin for a week.
Any legal alternatives? Or is a week fine?

post tfw crusaders tren is bunk and he just injected rubbing alcohol

>>41503276
>Im starting to feel the tren guys
>Its really making me start to like traps

>>41503264
>pay 6000 a year premium on 100k survivorship policy for 10 years
>60k paid in premium
>face amount of 100k
>40k difference


Your math is off

>>41503306
Thats wierd i liked traps before tren even

>>41503265
how about waiting to start your cycle

>>41503339
I'm on TRT

>>41503265
Make sure to save the milk from your titties it's high in protein

>>41503394
how about waiting to start your trt

so 2 vials of 250mg/ml 10ml of test E would be enough for 40 weeks of pinning on trt @125mg/week? can I inject using insulin pins? I've spent way too much money on doctors who think 200 testosterone is normal at 25

>>41503855
Keep in mind your going to loose some, not alot of your careful but some none the less. I have pinned with 29g slin needles but you need to backload them and run them under hot water so i wouldn't reccomend it.

>>41503306

Soon. Jerry first, then they all fall.

>I'm not a fucking trap, I'm an ambush.

>>41503264
And? Doesn't mean it's a meme. Casino's are a meme

>>41503306
Oh yay now I have to actually trip because I'm being samefagged

>>41504252
Is gambling a good financial decision for the average person? No.

>>41504265
This is actually a false comparison. Insurance deals in pure risk: where loss is certain or there is no change. Gambling is a speculative risk; opportunity for loss or gain.

my mom keeps calling me fat she doesn't understand im a POWERLIFTER and i need MASS

dumb bitch

>>41503183
mines usually at 101 when working and 120ish post-set

is problem?

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Dianabol vs Anadrol for GAINS and SIZE?

>>41504440
Tachycardia

>>41504451
maybe...

but i work in a kitchen so i have to work fast paced.

otherwise my RHR is usually between 55-60

>>41504458
My RHR is 95. I don't have a super physically demanding job but I actually peaked at 141 today.

Gonna die.

>>41504476
jeez i've only ever got that high doing deadlifts or using the treadmill

why do you have to make me worry and think i have tachycardia nigga

Anyone here got experience with Anavar? I've got 5000mg laying around, wanna do a cut cycle with it and some test P. I either hear that it's very good or does fuck all, what are your thoughts lads?

>>41504510
Great QoL drug; nice joints, good pumps, nice vascularity. It provides a great aesthetic. Not too hot for performance or mass.

>>41504510
>>41504518
Oh shit we are taking this seriously.
Over priced and weak asf if its actually var. But if you have it may as well use it.

>At work
>Have gay co-worker
>Gay co-worker's friend comes in
>Is a drag queen or some equally retarded shit
>Drag queen faggot keeps looking at me when I pass by
>Gay co-worker later tells me the drag queen wants my dick

I LIKE GIRLS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>41504548
Nah. True var is fine run at about 100-150mg daily. I prefer winny, but var pumps are fantastic.

>>41504561
Would 90mg/day for 8 weeks be fine? Gonna just run it from the start of my test p cycle through to the end.

>>41504557
After a few months of Tren you'll be asspounding barely passing drag queens with a smile on your face boy

>>41504561
>>41504570
wtf are those crazy doses LOL enjoy your negative HDL. either that or you guys have some seriously underdosed shit.

>>41504561
Winny and sdrol are the only orals i use now. Adrol was awesome but too wet.

>>41504570
Sounds like a good start. Get bloods done halfway through to check liver values. If you have a tank liver you might get away with just NAC

>>41504582
Hdl was gonna happen with any dose above 40-50mg. All var I've gotten was free and tested at 98% pure by jano. Good stuff.

>>41504582
Pretty standard really mate. Unless you've got pharma shit then 100mg is fine.

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is superdrol gyno a meme im scared mommy

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>>41504557
>>41504198
Its not gay if its a feminine penis

>>41504634
Is it gay if it's a masculine clit/pussy?

>>41504644
Exactly. Im glad youve been paying attention

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>too poor for HGH

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

It's at least 1500-2k for a decent 6 month cycle.

>>41504634
Yo jerry i need an easy binge watch as i wait for beserk to come out. Reccomendations?

>>41504695
How can you not afford that?

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>>41504701
im neet

fuck you normie

>>41504695
Lmao get a job, peasant

>>41504698
Grappler Baki

>>41504709
Get your securities license and day trade you lazy asshole. You can be neet(ish) and make good money.

Being a neet is just an excuse for being both lazy and stupid.

>made a casein shake at 6am
>only now finishing it
>around 4pm added some sweet tropical drink to it (work had a thing- free refeed day)
>literally tastes like sperm now
LITERALLY
no homo

This is fuckin gross

>>41504727
>securities license
fuck u need this for

>>41504764
How do you know what sperm taste like jerry? Hmmmmmmmmmm?

>>41504791
Selling various annuities mostly. Some brokerage work.

>>41504814
>he doesn't eat his own cum

it's literally free protein dude

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>>41504826
Wouldnt work for psmf dont waste my time

>>41504852
i'm doin psmf too my mans.

did you ever stall? been stuck at 248 for the last two days. maybe refeed?

>>41504863
Adjust a stimulus; increase cardio, decrease cals by 1-200, refeed, adjust minerals, etc.

>>41504878
i don't do any cardio since lyle recommended against it, just my standard lifting routine i've been doing for a while.

my daily cals are about 900 and i work in a kitchen so i work a faced paced environment

>>41504881
I also do fasted cardio in the am. There's zero reason not to.

>>41504826
>implying I jerk off

Do you understand what vices are?

>>41504895
You're blasting blasting tren your cog dis is bizarre

>>41504893
i'll try a refeed and see what happens over the next few days.

if it doesn't work then i'll do fasted cardio

>>41504914
Smart move.

I'd refeed with a few large pizzas. AlwYs made me look dope too.

>>41504908
Speaking of blasting tren. I'm still unsure how long I shoulf blast for. I've got enough for ~18 weeks at 500mg

Should I keep it to 12-15 or just go all out?

>>41504924

i was just planning on getting a big fat ass burrito at chipotle or something, but i feel that if i were to eat those two pizzas i'd not want to revert back to psmf.

how often do you do your refeeds? i've been doing psmf for almost two weeks now

>>41504863
Nah i was just having a laugh. I cut as god intended. Dnp and liss

>>41504814
Ive had tranny cum more times than Ive held hands with girls

>>41504852
>generic sperm
Bruh my sperms anabolic

>>41504932
The less bf%, the more refeeds
How fat you is

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>>41504942
>Ive had tranny cum more times than Ive held hands with girls

>>41504942
i started at around 262lbs last tuesday and weighed myself friday morning at 248, been 248 since thursday

jerry post a current pic

>>41504925
Gauge how you feel at week 8. Then again at week 12 depending. Sides become intense for me around week 12, so i drop the dose to 350 or come off usually.
>>41504932
That could work, pizza is just easy since I can have it come to me. I did psmf for 6 weeks and then maintained a hard fast for another 12 weeks. I'd refeed every 5 days past the initial 6 weeks.

This early in you probably don't need a refeed but to actually monitor intake better or increase output; fasted cardio dude. Paired with 3-500mg caffeine first thing and a whey hydrolysate sipped about 15 minutes into the cardio should helped utilize fatty acids more efficiently, while keeping nitrogen high.

>>41504966
i originally planned to get down to 245 before i did a refeed. and afterwards i'd jump back onto psmf down another 15lbs until i hit 230 and do another refeed. and so on and so forth

>>41504982
Refeed should be based around a lack of response. How long have you stagnated for?

>>41504990
see here
>>41504955

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>>41504955
That tells me literally nothing about your bf%

So every 2 weeks

>>41504951
You mirin?
You shouldnt be

>>41504957
Ok
This is me irl, the hrt worked

>>41505001
i've never been accurately measured but by the standard /fit/ bf pic i'm about ~25% bf

>>41504991
Yeah a week stagnation needs adjustment in stimulus. Eat that burrito

>>41505007
4-6 weeks then

>>41505015
>>41505009

i'm going to head to sleep but i'll weigh myself in the morning and decide what to do.

>>41504819
is this some tv licence shit? cos i've never seen this mentioned as necessary

>>41505049
No it's required by law and FINRA to sell investments such as preferred stocks, bonds, and annuities. Have you never heard of a series 7?

These aren't personal investments; you're managing other people's investments.

>>41505071
you're talking about brokering not daytrading then yer?

>>41505084
Either or. If you want to play the markets with your own money then lol good luck. I'd rather just manage others money and get a cut of their premiums.

I'm not technically a broker; I just have my securities license so I can sell different annuities. I mostly work with mortgage protection and final expense.

Fucking tren dreams. I'm nearing the end of my 10 wk 100mg ace/250 test e/wk cycle. I have not had any weird dreams in the cycle up until this past sunday. Now it seems i get them every day. I am talking mind shattering air stealing spine chilling nightmares where you wake up and need a few minutes to make sure it wasn't real. Vivid as fuck. A few minutes ago I just dreamed that i was at a party at my old college town and since my gains were showing I hit on all of the hot girls there. I got three of the hottest sluts and sneaked out to a room to have sex. Then they turned into rabid dog beast things, they started howling, i started hearing howling in the other rooms too, everyone was now gigantic bloody hound creatures, and i look down at my hands and see two machetes, tied around my hand and onto my wrist. They started slowly approaching me, showing their teeth, and barking. I fought them and it was bloody and videogame like. I fucking woke up after opening the door, having slaughtered every single dog there was and boom, woke up swinging. I am having a smoke right now, so I'm chill but that shit was insane and straight shook me up

>>41504606
Yes. Perhaps you're thinking of adrol gyno

>>41505121
I used to just have normal tren dreams; like watching myself commit suicide or having girlfriends stab me to death while in full femdom gear.

You're weird.

>>41505133
You're weak.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BTy7JeKjfog/?taken-by=ivweissenberg

tfw no aggressive shieldmaiden gf to bear strong children with

I think I've got test flu, i'm 7 weeks into my cycle and feel lethargic af and sore everywhere, and feel weak and sniffly/dry mouth/throat

What do I do?

>>41505242
You're just regular sick stupid

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>>41505238
Horrifying.

>>41505245
O-oh
We'll it is colder here in straya now

>>41505255
High amounts of test will down regulate your immune system. Rest up and eat.

>>41505246
stfu christcuck you'll never understand pagan values

>>41505274
Half the modern church is just christianised pagan rituals you fucknugget.

>>41505281
Poisoned utterly by jewish slave morality

>>41505238
lmao her bf/coach only deadlifts 600 lbs

fucking beta cuck send her my way

>>41505288
>jewish slave morality
>BTFO pagans

Vatican II is a joke tho.

>>41505296
>BTFO pagans

they conquered the roman empire through assimilation :)

>>41505304
Who? The Pagans or the Christians? Both are technically correct.

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>Dying for salvation
>With dedication
>No capitulation
>Annihilation

>Papal commendation
>Reincarnation
>Heaven is your destination

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>Spend am hour trying to take decent progress photo
>End up with one, shit picture

oh well

What is metformin used for again?

I run high carb + mk 677 and the faggots in my gym keep telling me I should add slin or metformin to my cycle.

>>41505603
Nutrient partitioning; efficient sugar transportation.

>>41505514
>in the name of GOOOOOOD

>>41505580
Looking pretty joocy. Get a better camera though.
>>41505658
This anon gets it.

>>41505666
Hail Satan

>>41505742
>god is kill
>no

>>41505580
that looks like gyno senpai

>>41506131
he knows

this is why you don't blast 100mg of dbol because you think it's not working.

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How significant are the mental effects of being on testosterone? the confidence, the energy, the motivation, self esteem

Are they overblown? are there people out there on a gram of test per week who remain lazy and low in confidence?

I'd say im very average to below average in all those departments (energy, motiv etc), and I'm not happy with that.

I'm considering taking steroids for the size and strength gains obviously, but if you guys convince me the mental/other benefits are great too then that will be definitely push me over the edge into taking it.

I'm 25 now, I'm not happy with my life being like this, it's time to stop being such an apathetic retard who is filled with self-doubt and low confidence. Tired of missing out on opportunities.

>>41506157

Yep, that would be the takeaway from that one.

=/

>>41506263
You already asked this.

Everybody is different. The general opinion is aromatising compounds = good feels, non-aromatising compounds = bad feels. But that's no guarantee.

Hope for the best, expect the worst.

>>41506293
I couldn't imagine the horror when you realised what you've done. But I assume normies have no fucking idea and can't tell for shit

>>41506304
You're right, I asked it, and got one response, by a guy saying he still remained lazy

not exactly a lot of information to go off.

>>41506263
try vitamin D 5k IU/ day

>>41506331

oh man, if you think that was bad, try squeezing your nip and finding out you're lactating on Tren.

I was in the middle of a restaurant with Bimbo, Fatlifts, Sp0ike, and Dingo freaking the fuck out

>>41506358
not him but I've been doing that for a while now and still barely any improvement

>>41506382
youre probably not deficient or maybe it has something to do with vitamin k. for me it helped with motivation and apathy

>>41506370
Spooky. How did you get rid of it?

>>41506263

The mental effects are real, BUT THEY DO NOT COME FROM THE TEST.

on 500mg test e i felt like i always did. I was still lazy. The increased confidence comes from the gains and your enhanced masculine look.

If you are on 2 grams of test but you are a 160lb dyel, it wont help you.

>I'm 25 now, I'm not happy with my life being like this, it's time to stop being such an apathetic retard who is filled with self-doubt and low confidence. Tired of missing out on opportunities.

This is the spirit bro. Do it. The test itself wont help you but getting jacked (like really really asthetic and jacked) is the key to escape beta life. Its good that you reflect your current life situation realistically and you want to change it.
You are gonna make it, hop on the test. The confidence will come.

>>41506472
Reassess your life and why you give bad advice.

>>41506370
>>41506452
Do you still have it? Are you planning to nuke it with gear, leave it or get a surgery?

Anyone else come off a cruise that lasted over a year?

I'll be over 2 years in August and may need to come off in March. Not sure if I need HCG or not

>>41506715
literally what

>>41506830
HCG would be a very wise choice.

>>41506906

Yeah I'm thinking so too. I guess I'll be doing that unless I can find an easy way to send brewed gear across the US into the EU.

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2 days after a pin I realized I forgot to take Adex, so now its 1mg back to back today and tomorrow. RIP gyno.

>>41505580
wicked abs but your chest is fucked you need to blast ralox ASAP

>>41505238
shes mentally ill, you can hear it in the screams. She'd still love my dick tho.

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do you usually feel tren ace kick in first week ?

>>41506956
I'll let you know in 5 days.

https://youtu.be/BEAEWXObWLI

Natural bodybuilding is depressing

>>41506745

Gyno, yes

Lactation only happens with high dose Tren, stops when you stop the Tren too.

And fuck yes I'm getting that shit cut out, it makes me hate looking at myself.

>>41506370
where do u live that u can hang out with the bros like that

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Gonna blast & cruise starting next month, im hyped

>>41507153
iirc you posted the other day but with your head edited out

>>41507168
Thats true

>>41507153
Your nips are the size of chocolate chips.

>>41507186
>>41507168
>>41507153
stop false flagging your friend

>>41507201
who are you quoting?

>>41507192
large nips are horrible.

I hate a huge areola on a woman, it wastes a perfectly good tit

>>41507222
I agree but there's a point at which it's too small aswell.

I say anywhere between a 20c and 50c Australian piece is optimal.

>>41507222
I think my nips are absolutely fine tho

>>41507233
I've seen some really pale bitches with odd brown nipples, that annoyed me. It just looked out of place
>>41507241
They are fine dude, I wasnt really discussing yours desu

>>41507248
Sounds fucked. Pink nipples are master race.

>>41507254
>Pink nipples are master race
True.

4 weeks into first blast and im getting the urge to pick up smoking

not good

>>41503964
27g at room temperature works well with a 3ml syringe. 1ml syringes little harder to pin with.

>>41507857
not sure how its related

Tfw 15g of quality of anadrol. Wut do

>>41507857
>not snusing instead
sorry

>>41507886
Snort it. Enjoy your tits, no liver and gains.

Been on 0.5mg caber every 2.5 days for a fortnight to lower my prolactin. Doesn't seem to be doing anything for my penis or sex drive. Still pretty reliant on viagra and my sex drive feels all mental - I want to fuck my gf but I don't have that physical compulsion to get my dick in something. Any other ideas?

(Not on steroids, btw)

>>41506472
What is wrong with you moosey, every time I come here you're always spouting shit advice

>>41507951
You're not on steroids but you're taking caber? Who told you this would in anyway help your dick?

It just sounds like your E2 is fucked.

>>41507977

Doctor did blood tests when my dick started playing up and found elevated prolactin. Gonna be months before I see an actual endocrinologist

>>41507995

Should add, she only checked test (bang average) and prolactin. No idea what my estrogen levels are, although my lack of facial hair and body shape probably suggest high

>>41506984
Don't know his stats or his height

But he looks like shit, I look better than that and I'm nothing special

Unless he is like 6'5, there's no excuse for him to look so small/skinny

>>41508013
Prolactin (at any sort of natty level production) will only fuck with your dick when your E2 is too high unless you're taking a mountain of progesterones, which you aren't.

It's most likely your estrogen.

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Is this routine retarded, if so explain why please (besides lack of abs, I do them day off just don't have it listed here)

>>41505580
Now THIS is gyno

>>41504942
enjoy your estrogens in the tranny cum faggot. real man have real man cum
>not going to make it

>>41508071
>bro split
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anyone use sdrol and mtren and can give a comparison? Interested in dry gains.

I always wondered, considering that if you come off steroids without PCT, your testosterone levels tank for a while until your body realizes that you don't have enough in your system, then restarts the production, does that means that you could theoretically drop to a very low cruise level and have your body restart testosterone production without the levels tanking, and without actual PCT?

>>41508186
Not unless the cruise level is below your natty level. You could switch to LGD without pct. Your LH and FSH should recover but your test will stay very low but shoot up when you come off it if LH nd FSH recover. Ostarine would be similar but allow a higher recovery of test on it.

I've come off test and tren without pct before. I seem to recover fine desu with or without pct.

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Heart rate has dropped to 63.

What the fuck is going on desu?

>>41508164
that better be injectable mtren or else you're in for a wild liver ride.

>>41508186
as far as I understand it that any kind of exogenous hormones will completely make your endocrine stop production. no matter how much it is.

>>41508071
if this isn't bait then yes it is, moreso if you're frauding

>>41508217
you're freaking the fuck out.

>>41508219
Mtren would still have to pass the liver once in the blood stream anyway.

Secondly. No that's not quite true. If your natty level is 600 and you inject test that would otherwise give you 300. You'd be suppressed about 50%.

Stronger compounds suppress more and shut down on less mg than test does. Tren only for example would shut you down on lower dose than test would.

Though a micro dose below your natty threshold of tren with some suppression of test might be more anabolic than natty.

In any cases the level of doses to suppress not shut down are usually pointless and with test you'll end up exactly the same as natty level test unless you take more than your natty level.

>tfw it's warm and sunny outside and I want to go to out for a walk and show off my gains but I'm too autistic and shy and no one else is topless and I'll probably look weird doing it

>>41508226
explain pls as best you can

>>41508046

Thanks pal. Any suggestions for low-risk ways to get it down while I wait to see the endocrinologist? I was doing some dumbbell stuff at home and haven't bothered for ages. Guess it would be a good idea to get that going again?

>>41508282
>Roiding for this

>>41502588
Careful, clomid will kickstart levels. Complain with symtoms.......tired, ed, on the chins all day

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>>41508238
Whelp, back to 95. I'm so fucked.

>>41508287
>Any suggestions for low-risk ways to get it down while I wait to see the endocrinologist
Stop eating shit food. Stop drinking alcohol. Lose some weight. Avoid soy. Eat lean meats and fish.

>>41502588
Doctors want to use clomid with shitty sides potential reduction in eyesight increased blurriness

Ree

>>41508313

I've already lost about 10lbs this year and I don't think I have anything with soy in it but guilty on the other counts. Will try lifestyle fixes and getting some exercise again. Thanks m80

>>41508496
Go to Church every Sunday as well.

What's the Zyzz press? Whenever I google it, it just comes up with vids of Zyzz doing Bench or OHP.

>>41507968
It is really bad advice too damn

>>41504445
Tren

>>41508071
>>41508286
Pls respond, I want to educate myself as to why it is bad

>>41508897
read the sticky

Training core is so boring

>>41508937
What does the sticky have to do with a routine? I don't think it even mentions training once

>>41509111
>implying side bends aren't fun
>implying rope crunches or more accurately praying to zyzz for superior gains is 'boring'

>>41509130
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've never read the sticky.

how come dymethazine is no longer a thing?

>>41509159
show me where it mentions it even once beyond that it needs to be "on point"

>>41509231
>>17018018

>>41509245
LOL I THOUGHT YOU MEANT THE steroids sticky. why the hell would i look at that shit, so it can tell me to do 3 sets of squats a week for fucking starting stregnth?

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>>41509274

Anyone know of any PEDs that can pass an NCAA drug test or have any advice for someone like me trying to get an edge. Want to get stronger btw

>>41509280
>>41509287
>>41509322
>
Bill Starr's Linear 5x5 (This is a very good, basic workout from a renowned strength coach. This is aimed at the intermediate lifter and is great to do once gains have stopped on Starting Strength.)
Jim Wendler's 5/3/1 (3 or 4 days/week) - this is a rather typical powerlifting program. You can find the answers to common 5/3/1 questions here.
Joe DeFranco's Built Like A Badass (3 days/week) - this is a bodybuilding program.
The Texas Method - excellent transition program for athletes coming from Starting Strength


>go read the natty sticky for fat obese natties and lift 3x a week bro!!! haha him gonna post anime pictures that makes me feel cool like my anime characters that i jerk off to!!!

back to rddit for me, forgot that 4chan is just a hive of autistic basement virgin losers who watch anime

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>>41509361
buh bye

>>41509361
Just because I have an anime tattoo doesn't mean I watch anime, Theo.

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>>41509361
>Post stupid things
>>Get's told is stupid
>NUHUH YOU GUYS ARE DUM BECUZ U POST ANIME IMMA GO TO REDDIT WHERE MY STUPID OPINION IS AFFIRMED BY OTHER DUMS

You are cyberbullying me.

>>41503306
Ill fuck anything pinning tren. I literally go through manic episodes of sex cravings. Throw some amphetamines in there, I'll fuck an extra curvy peace of drift wood.
I personally like this feel.

>>41509274
Your world is being invaded by mad dark soul SHITST0RM the pleb.

>>41508641
It's Seated dumbbell OHP

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where's masT?

i want to know what his training routine was when natty and on a carb cycle, pic related

>>41509823
He wasnt natty in those pictures,you are getting trolled hard.

What is the best "feel good" compound that doesn't bloat you the fuck up?

>>41510219
creatine

>>41510219
Eq, mast or var.

Depends on concept of feel good; eq and var make you physiologically feel good. You perform and operate comfortably. Mast provides a collected headspace.

Nothing aside from dbol provides that superman feel.

I blast and cruised for like 2 years and never used PCT after getting off of it for the past year and my test levels now are higher than they were when I started. Any reason why this might be

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This guy from my gym claims hes natty and is going to a natty competition. What do you guys think?

If hes not what is he using?

>>41510045
could be

i still want to know his training routine at that time though

>>41510422
Literally does not matter. Why do you care?

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>>41510418
this happens in anecdotal cases. no idea why, endocrine system a shit

>>41510449
im gonna quote mast here
"it literally doesnt fucking matter what you do in the gym stop being autistic"

reminder this was 2 months ago so i'm not sure i remember correct but you get the gist.

>>41510474
I wanna fuck him, but i gotta make sure his junk still works. Thats why.

changed my adex dose. how long to wait until I get bloods?

>>41510422
Seems like clen abuse, which some bb-ers think to not be a steroid at all. But the right tit gives it away. My guess on test, clen and winny.

>>41510422
he's natty

#carb_up

he's doing a carb cycle and that day was probably his carb reload. veins pop out like crazy then. i know cuz i'm natty and doing the same >>41508315

>>41510474
i care because /fit/ has a very twisted perception on what is natty and what is not, and there is a very high chance that MasTest was natty on those pictures, seeing that he would've had little to no interest in lying about this, considering the fact that his trip is fucking MasTest and he was entirely open about when, what and how he started roiding.

Why has only 600mg test-e increased my appetite so much? I used to feel full on 3000-3500 but now I need 4500 to even feel satiated

>>41510506
fucked up my quoting and missed your post, sorry

yea ok, i get that when you're roiding it doesn't matter what you do in the gym because you'll get results regardless, however it ain't the same if you are natty

>>41503103
What other boards

>>41510778
I'm not getting banned for source talk

>>41510422
Look at his fucking nipples, that's all you need to know.

>>41510422
why does it matter?

>>41510729
Nah. Mast as we know him has never been natty.

You can posit "he has no vested interest in lying" but then you have to dismantle every argument someone makes regarding "estats" with the same line of thought.

On 4chan, lying is fueled by a need for validation.

What happened to masT
Wheres Kahuna? (rehab?)

>>41506918
Are you moving with it? Some EU countries likes UK you can legally bring it in on your person if its for personal use.

I've started telling hos that hit on me or so to feel me up that I'm gay. I say it very wryly and with obvious amount of shit dripping from my mouth, but it's still fun to see them get huffy and beg for my number.

Probably the same emotion I experience when I fuck lesbians. Woops, "lesbians".

I heard about this thing where you do 100 reps a day on a body part that you feel is lagging, not high weight, but lowish weight.

Since I made the mistake of seeing my calves in the mirror from a side angle, and noticing they looked so goddamn small, I figured I'd do that for my calves, so I'm supersetting the last 2 exercises of any workout with 20 reps of calf raises - seated and leg press.I average 120-160 reps a day. Hopefully they'll grow.

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>test is low
>lh fsh and prolactin are fine

Could it be high e2? Doctors here are fucking faggots and won't test for anything I request.

Any of you niggers have experience with this shit?

>>41511856
high e2 would lower lh and fsh
could be mumps or klinefelters

>tfw lost a vial of test and tearing my room upside down looking for it

New Bread

>>41512279

>>41512279

>>41512279

>>41512279

>>41512279

>>41512284
Welp realised I posted a source in new bread. Gimmie sec K

>>41512296
Okeey dokey

Actual New Bread

>>41512315

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