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Rawanon's DNP progress

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Injected 1.4ml tren. No cough.

Do I win?

>>41489514
140mg ed? that is a lot of tren for a first run. are you sure?

>>41489536
Naw, it's 140mg EoD. I mean 500mg pw is still a lot for a first run, but I wanna get yuge to compensate for my character flaws.

>>41489496
Been mia for awhile, where does everyone get their DNP now, also did Dino stop selling?

>>41489536
No he'll lose his fucking mind, but it'll be neat to see that happen to someone that isn't me.
Good luck, ho.

worth using doxcycline while on a 8-12week cycle?

antibiotic and helps with acne

Looking for opinions on pct after test + tren cycle. Its my second cycle, and first time i recovered well with nolva and clomid. Since tren shut down is harder i was thinking something like
Clomid: 75/50/25/25/25
Nolva: 40/40/20/20/20
Starting 2 weeks after last test e pin obviously

Is that enough or would anyone recommend blasting some hcg for tye last 10 or so days of cycle?

>>41489576
>Since tren shut down is harde
you're an idiot

>>41489581
Thanks for the help fuck face. Obviously i didnt come up with that on my own but rather read it a thousand different places but if its not true, sorry. I am not a doctor. Thanks for the helpful post though kys

>>41489561
Keep me in your prayers.
>>41489576
?????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>41489554
You know that isn't how these things work.

>>41489602
It's not a matter of who will let me, but who will stop me.

>>41489616
We'll that's a fucking nonanswer of a platitude. Answering like that reveals that you know you're a fucking idiot and you expect this to blow up in your face. Seriously good luck but just to be a real person. Your born again time playing is and so is the reliance on drugs for a good self image.

Grow up dude.

>>41489633
That's an erroneous deduction.

Trips plz no fite :,(

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>>41489649
fite me fgt

>>41489649
Disgusting.

>>41489678
Roid rage alert. Bloody trenhead

>>41489685
I'm still surprised about no cough.

Does this mean that I'll never get tren cough or was I just lucky this time?

>>41489710
I've heard that the cough from tren ace is because the nature of acetate. Like if you put acetate on your skin you body will absorb it an anything mixed with it. It the theory is once in your muscle the tren is absorbed so aggressively that it gets in the bloodstream causing the cough.

Seem plausible?

>>41489710
you get tren cough when you accidentally nick a vein.

>>41489576
do hcg in the wash out period for sure. if you have any aromasin left over feel free to use it during pct

>>41489576
>>41489599
can you explain what part of your research led to you thinking this and how you would quantify a "harder shutdown"?

>>41489633
youre very smart

>>41489836
Google "19nor shutdown" and look at any of the results.

Although admittedly maybe i confused severity of shutdown with how fast the shutdown initially occurs.

But i didnt come here asking to argue about semantics, im here asking about my pct protocol so please feel free to chime in on that, otherwise, chiao mf

min time lifting before starting first cycle?

>>41490551
There is no min time. It's suggested at least a few months until you're out of the beginner phase.

>>41490505
literally the most important detail is cycle length and you omitted that

so no I'm not going to comment on most likely very overkill pct

>>41490569
i used to lift about a decade ago and have a crunchy rotator cuff. i'm about 2 months back on the wagon and figure i have about another three to go before i'm out of my beginner gains.

should i be worried about gaining too rapidly on a cycle and just totally ruining my shoulder or would it actually help strengthen it if i'm doing rotator cuff work for it too?

>>41490644
Yes you should be worried about gaining to quickly and overloading your shoulder. Along with all your tendons.

>>41490628
16 weeks test e, first 8 at 600 a week then drop to 500

Tren a at 50ed from weeks 6-11, 75ed weeks 12-15

did any of you take your first cycle before 25? I want to start but am scared because every forum says frauding before 25 is horrible for you.

>>41490686
i'm not in a hurry to get big i just have no problem with the idea of cycling if it'll get me there quicker as long as i don't just injure myself. i can lift without issue as long as i use strict form but i have to be pretty focused on it.

is this something that will be less of a risk for me over time? how do most people know when
they're at a place (joints/tendons/whatever) they can start a cycle safely?

>>41490782
All forum's are fake news.

Chem started at 17 and he's fine. I'd wager many of us are below 25.

>>41489488
funnily enough I read a few years ago about doxycycline being effective against cancer, I think preventing it from reproducing or something like that.

>>41489561
I think you have to bve predisposed to that (already mentally ill).

>>41490791
You could run deca or NPP which will help with tendon health but I'd still be worried about your shoulder.

> is this something that will be less of a risk for me over time?
Possibly. It's hard to know. Most likely if your shoulder is going to recover.

>how do most people know when
they're at a place (joints/tendons/whatever) they can start a cycle safely?
Nobody really 'knows'. It's really just an estimate that when you're out of the beginner phase and when you stop linear progression that your tendons are at less risk of damage since you're not consistently piling more weight on them.

>>41489745
Ive injected tren into blood stream before but never got cough, just scary 15 minute high as hell heart rate (had no control over it). Probably good cardio.

>>41490782
There are two major reasons why you might not want to do it.

1. You may still have potential for additional height growth even if its not much, that likely gets halted with the increased estrogen from a cycle.

2. Your hormones aren't stable yet and still fluctuating, people theorise stopping the endocrine system altogether temporarily during this period could mess it up, but Im not so sure about that.

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>>41490782
Started at 17 and now I'm a manlet and ded so you decide anon

>>41490829
appreciate the insight. i think i'll give it at least 6 months and then see what i think about my shoulder.

i don't think it's ever gonna get better without surgery but who knows.

>>41490505
Anon is right, you get shut down even harder than crushing test, LH and FSH to 0, you end up with negative LH and FSH.

>>41490896
Best of luck anon.

>>41490801
>Chem started at 17 and he's fine
>yolo dbol gyno and severe (although adorable) brain damage

>>41490917
Was he the one that flipped out on his gf on tren?

>>41490879
well you're also the living epitome of a dirty permabulk so tread lightly

>>41490801
>>41490917
>Chem started at 17 and he's fine. I'd wager many of us are below 25.

lol I don't think I would use chem as a positive example for anything ever, unless you count chimping out and being sent to prison as a positive

>>41490941
Yea man I had McDonald's again today and also a box of uncrustsbles, also eating some pie right now so fuck me lol.

>>41490917
Well he's not dead and still has bodily function. Half of the things that are wrong with him are because of his lifestyle choices not necessarily roids.

On week 25 of my blast and I haven't lifted in 4 weeks AMA

>>41491079
>not dead and still has bodily function
nigga if that's our new standard I could run 10g a week for a while. but yeah, he's surprisingly fine and dandy given some of the shit he did

>>41491102

I dunno how I'm still alive desu

I'm looking p solid rn tho ayyy

>>41491087
(you)
why no lifting
why should I give a flying fuck
blast details
current body pic optional but welcome

>>41491124
can't deny that. I think of your most recent back pic when I make love to my gf

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>>41491124
>say Chems name and he appears
again

>>41491165
y so jelly

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Ay. Saw fellow lifetimer summon me in last thread. Been too busy with work and training to visit fraud. Wadup bro

>>41491492
Whenever I post pics here I realize how disappointing I look. I need some more size but it's cutting season ;_; at least I look a bit better when I've got a crazy pump going. Tanning would help too.

tren sweats are so bad

>>41491518
you look pretty tan to me

though it might just be the flattering overhead lighting

>>41491535
Lighting is part of it. Seems like lifetime has great lighting everywhere somehow. I've got a crazy farmers tan that you can barely make out. My arms are dark as a mexican's and my chest is pale as like Dennis Wolfe pre tan.

For the anon in the last thread asking about Boston: go to Little Donkey in Cambridge.

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>>41491535
Still can't really tell. I need a better camera and shiet too. Get all that set up and create a IG for a chance at sponsors in the future.

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>>41491579
Damn son. Those traps look like they go up to your ears.

Around what time are you usually there?

>>41489496
> using DNP for this

>>41491535
Am I the only one that prefers to look pale and big?

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>run out of tren e
>switch to ace
>get acne
Switching esters always gets me baka

>>41491953
Shut up and post dakis

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>>41491959
This could be you but you playin

And there's a person behind these posts
Honestly

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>>41491953
>running out of tren e
>Ever

Shiggydiggydoo. Gotta keep that tren cruising going. What's your current stack?

>>41489569
If you can get it easily.. use it only if you get acne

>>41491981
I actually want to buy a great helm.

If the DNP guy is still here, can you post what supps you were taking (vitamins not sterons)

>>41491982
250/200
Dont need nothin for pmsf

Well thats what I was bulking on too +adrol

I keep telling myself I can put my cut off but goddamn summer is already kind of here, it was 30c degrees out today.

fuck me it's time to stop bulking and accept that my tiny twink body is what I'm going to have this summer, except possibly shredded

>>41491953

>750mg test e
>body hair and backne

wew lad should I up my adex dose

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>>41491998
of course you do
baka

>>41492002
I'm sure its something like this

plus lots of NAC (which you should take anyways desu)

>>41492024
gotta get beach body ready bro

>>41490879
how old now

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>>41492100
I still have a suspicion that those 101 Dalmatian sheets were mine given we're in the same area and I know my mom had a set or two she gave to Goodwill or some other donation center. Either that or your parents loved you enough to get some kick ass sheets too.

>>41492100
Why is there just $5 bills laying about?

I just coughed so hard after an injection I started vomiting

and now I have to clean this shit up and hope my roommate doesn't wake up and ask wtf is going on

>>41491087
how much test are you on, have you lost fat?

I find at a higher dose your so anabolic it doesn't matter

>>41492100
>Autism: The Bed

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>>41492127
yeah I'm fuckin my wife on your sheets
you jealous?

>>41492144
Cause I ball hard

>>41492208
stay jelly h8r

>>41492176
You choking on dick you fag?

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Damn blood from VG shot reeeeeeeeee.

>>41492144
Pft. Amateur. Everyone knows that's how you summon the Daki fairy.

>>41492176
Just tell him you were trying to od but it didn't work.

>>41492195
Only 500mg, I've already lost a ton of muscle, feels like it shouldn't be that fast but I definitely notice the difference.

>>41490917
Is he the same chem that was posting insane nonsense on meso or steroidology

>>41492296
Oh yeah definitely

>>41492219
Stay autistic, faggot.

What is the /fraud/ meme(masT) hair stack again?

Saw Palmetto, Biotin... wha?

>>41492659
keto shampoo

>>41492659
Pumpkin seed oil?

>>41492659
>>41492819
Jesus that does sound like a meme

>>41492841
>>41492819
>>41492683
>>41492659

not a meme you disgusting cucks

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>>41492847
D-don't insult m-my d-d-daddy!!

>>41492847
Meme or not i dodged mpb genes thank allah

>>41492856
No

Who else /insomnia/??

I can't sleep because heart palpitations, thanks ephedrine

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If i change from bulk to cut mid cycle i wont lose muscle i gained right ? Im doing test dbol tren cycle. on 5th week rn done with dbol thinking to swtich from bulk to cut in a week when tren arrives.

>>41493178
your gains will melt and fraud will laugh at you

>>41493289
Were already laffin sooooo

>>41493298
yeah at ur complete lack of core and legs LMAO

arms n chest everyday :)

>>41493298
link to your portfolio, bb

i'm sure the rest of fraud keeps it on hand, but it would mean more if you shared it

Will HGH cause me to grow if I'm already 23 or am I forever stuck a 6'3" manlet? I want to be a FREAK

>>41493370
yes

but you'll also end up looking and talking like bimbo

your call

>>41493384
My voice gets complimented daily tho

>>41493384
bimbo is only like 6'5" supposedly that's how tall I am with shoes and he's probably frauding because he looks like same height as some 6'2" porn actors he shoots with

and he doesn't even squat because hes a little bitch and it hurts his vagina

>>41493393
i've never heard your voice. everything else coming out of your mouth is pretty unfortunate. must have been the gh

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>>41493398
>>41493400

>>41493398
>porn

wut

>>41493418
how new

>>41493423
lol probably does gay porn

>>41493434
oh shit i wonder if
>actors he shoots with
gave it away

>>41493434
he says it pays good

>>41493446
:|

aw fuk bye

>>41493452
you don't want to watch a scene big boi?..

>>41493462
gib link

>>41493470
scott ambrose is his porn name

google it

You guys think he's fapping?

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>>41493478
>>41493470
>>41493462
>>41493452
>>41493414
I wish I didnt masturbate 10x already or else I'd have an hour sesh to this video.

Not gonna lie, the beginning was full of hearty keks

> roiding for this

Also bimbo why does ur dick look like one of those inflatable ftm synthetic dicks? No offense but I have 5x more girth than you.

>>41493540
his excuse is he's tall so it looks small but its like 5 inches maybe 6 inches max when diamonds

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> tfw let my guard down and the gym manlets raped me again

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*record scratch*
Yeah, I go by bimbo, but you can call me Scott Ambrose. You're probably wondering how I got in this.. sticky situation!

>>41493478
>>41493540
:|

why /fit/

>>41493628
Did you get a semi

scott bro do u have aids u look even more dyel

>>41493582
I've been laughing at this for a solid five minutes. Thanks.

>>41493582
bit gay

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>>41493862
Bimbo didn't get a penor in his butt so it's 100% straight

>>41489554
>>41489514

First run of tren always gives the best results. God speed Crusader!

>>41489514
I've gotten the cough once in 6 months of cumulative tren usage. It should be used as a measure of a person's retardation. How someone can get so much into their bloodstream, I have no idea.

>>41489576
> tren shutdown is harder
Harder than your mother's cock you mong.

You do realize that people base tren cycles on test so as to keep from shutting down, right? Your natural test will go down, but inclusion of exogenous test keeps you safe from shutdown. Your production will still be low, and the balls may shrink, but you'll still be producing test. The PCT is to return your test production to normal or as near as you can get.

>>41490902
Thanks brofessor

>>41493540
>>41493562
>>41493582
what the fuck
why is that a thing

you sure have changed /fraud/

>>41493951
Deus Vult

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>ask oneitis on a date looking after a juicy arms n delts sesh
>actually said yes

Holy fuck havent been on a proper date in forever. What have i done

>>41491809
Usually get there from 5-7PM and leave at 7-10pm

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>>41489659
kill yourself you fucking dyel

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>>41491998
your christian thing is fucking lame, and do you literally ever leave the house? you literally spam these posts but have never posted a current body. hmmmm

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>>41493434
Kinda gettin bored here lil guy so I did some searching on the archive since you bluffed giving me real stats... lol, topped out at 220lbs, that means you were one of the guys who couldn't even hit 200lbs natty...

remember you are unable to quit steroids even if you wanted because the humiliation you will suffer from having the people you see every day watch you deflate like a retarded balloon and the crippling depression you will have from a completely fucked endocrine system and scorched earth nut sack that won't be able to produce levels of test even half of a normal mans for at least a decade will surely lead to suicide

you, like all your pictures are just illusions, of course you're on an internet forum, you are retarded(like me) unlike me it takes pictures that make you look huge

Have fun spending money on something you do to impress others, mostly online because let's be honest everyone irl who sees you knows you got a napoleon complex and can't live without drugs

sorry I have to embarrass you on the only real place where you can get any respect from other autists like us. I hope you find what you are looking for and don't realize to late that you fucked up your natural life to be an imitation bodybuilder.

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You guys are the only people on the entire internet that I trust for relationship advice

How do you guys react if a girl suddenly turns into a bitch on you. After a bunch of positive talk, she turns cold.

You're talking online and you say something, and she doesn't react with "hahaha" or tries to keep the conversation going, just rebukes you completely. No energy on her part, just flat out makes it sound like she doesn't want to talk.

What would you do? Would you hit back harder? Go no contact?

I get that if it happens more than once you move on, but what if it happens exactly once?

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>>41494932
>You're talking online and you say something, and she doesn't react with "hahaha" or tries to keep the conversation going, just rebukes you completely. No energy on her part, just flat out makes it sound like she doesn't want to talk.

sounds like you're being a needy little bitch, bro - hate to say it. girls don't want to be the centre of your universe or the only thing you have going on, and constant need to be in contact and such is a surefire way to dry them the fuck out

just do you bby, don't talk to her for a few days and see if she comes around. if she does, cool, if not, also cool - go find yourself a new broad

if it keeps happening, it's because 'needy little bitch' is a character flaw of yours and not just a circumstantial one-off thing

>>41494932
drop her like a hot plate

>>41494927
im a disgusting 200 lbs naturally . real muscle no tricks.

>>41494932
>You guys are the only people on the entire internet that I trust for relationship advice
>/fit/ claims another victim

If was only once then maybe she was having a bad day or something, if it's a regular thing then just drop her

>>41494932
drop her

>>41494932
H-how old are pic related

>>41494965
>>41494981
>>41494998

Thanks guys

Some background, we went out for coffee and she keen. Talked to her after and she wasn't as keen. May have fucked something up, not sure.

Waited a couple of days to talk, and maybe should have waited for her to initiate contact. Either way, wasn't a good talk.

Don't want to give up on something just out of the fear that I'm acting like a bitch, but also don't want to actually act like a bitch.

Happy to let it go but also don't want to let it go purely because I'm trying not to act like a bitch, if you know what I mean? Like if it's just some off thing, overreacting is a weak move. So just trying to maintain things while giving it a fair chance.

If she's truly off then so bet it but best give it a chance

>>41495020
Idk but whatever age they are i am

>>41493540
>choosing a pic where he purposely looks depleted and frail because """subbing""" to shitpost >roiding for this
o-or so I h-heard I don't a-actually watch a-any of his other s-stuff

>>41495040
Is it just me or is it a bit of a dick move to dox bimbo like this or are specifics already common knowledge?

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>>41495020
Too old
Busted used roasties

>>41495032
Stop acting like a little girl
Someone doesnt give you the time of day, and you want to give them more attention?

Have some self respect

>>41495063
he's been doxed a while ago, was a heinous event that I don't really condone. but now that it's out, I might as well rub one out to it, consider it the greatest mire I am able to give

>>41495090
Gonna sound like a bit of a bitch but i think anons get a little carried away with being intentionally malicious. I mean how many people would have the balls to be such cunts face to face.

>>41494913
I'm not posting my body because I currently have stalker anon trying to doxx me

>>41495110
way back when it was actually chem being a spastic that doxed him. and fatlifts, and dingo... and who ever else ran in that little gang that I forget.
Since then bimbo... does ay shit for money on camera apparantly and anons gonna anon.

>>41495070
m8 I bought my flights to the states to that grill

>>41495110
>anons get a little carried away with being intentionally malicious
welcome to 4chan friend, also the actual doxxing was done by other trips, keep that in mind
>I mean how many people would have the balls to be such cunts face to face.
none. exactly, definitely, absolutely, none. that's what makes it oh so much worse. as I said, I don't condone it, sad as it sounds, I for one unironically just enjoy gay porn with swole guys and happen to be able to ask one of my favorite actors about his stack, training and nutrition here in /fraud/.

>>41495129
Oh nice
Now you can have all the hamburgers you could ever want

>>41495148
>get to shitpost with my fav "actor"

Ohwell if thats how it goes. I like the outrageousness of 4chan so i guess you take the good with the bad

>>41495166
don't hate the player, hate the game

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Decided to check my heart rate since there's a thread on it. Always had a high heart rate as a kid but never really thought about it.

>tfw resting heart rate of 95bpm

My heart is going to explode for sure. Docs never brought it up though, do I just have a shitty doctor?

>>41495224
That does sound a pre-high
Rbc?
Bp?

>>41495232
Don't know. Will see my doc soon anyway. 95bpm kind of freaks me out, that's like mild tachycardia or some shit. I'm not even fat.

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>>41495224
>starts tren
>worried about heart health

>>41495260
I'm going to go out like Zyzz.

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I'm really feeling low energy most of the time. I'm thinking of getting test prescribed if my results come in bad, which I'm pretty confident they will. How would that benefit my growth?

>>41495252
I believe kahuna's best choice of late was stealing the bp arm thingy. I would like one myself. I wouldn't stress too much though it's not like your runnung marathons. Do you cardio?

>>41495252
>I'm not even fat.
still don't buy it. post body. i don't care about your stalker, that's what you get for being a tripfag. there's a reason this place is anonymous

>>41495265
wasn't that dnp+sauna though

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>>41495265
XD
Ebin

>>41495268
Going from low test to normal levels was like coming out of a fog
Pretty crazy stuff

>>41495270
>Do you cardio?
No.

>>41495272
No.

>>41495274
Plus some sort of heart defect.

>>41495274
And t3 and clen and everything else he had to take to compensate

>>41495281
You don't get bitch tits from that, do you?

>>41495305
research bro damn

>>41495282
>no cardio
>on tren
>betting no bp supps

Id bet dollars to donuts your bp and rbc are high too

If youre on steroids you need to do cardio atleast 3x a week, like real cardio, 45 min hiit

Get a bp monitor
Youll need a large cuff (or youd better atleast if youre on roids)
Look into coq10, niacin, and baby asprin as well. 3 pronged attack on cardiovascular issues

>>41495305
You shouldnt, but its possible
I had gyno in one nip already cause my estro was fuck high natty, plus hcg and I needed ai
Always have ai and pct on hand anyways

>>41495224
yolo some eq, blood sludge is fairly hard to get a high bpm with kek

>>41495305
A pescribe trt dose would unlikely aromatise enough to get severe sides. The idea is to give you natural levels. So it's possible but unlikely

>>41495319
Thanks Jerry. I appreciate the help.

>>41495265
While looking none as good. Ha.

>>41495319
2nd the cardio. I'm a wierdo who actually enjoys it and between it and regular donations my numbers are fine

>>41495148
>also the actual doxxing was done by other trips, keep that in mind
it was all sven though

>>41495353
I suffer when doing cardio. Have some sort of weird shit with my tendon in my left arm being too tight and it grinds away the cartilage in the socket. My mum literally had the tendon cut with surgery.

>>41495162
Aww hell yeah.
Its in 2 months time though which is gay. And going to be awkward as fuck like "hey you remember we had fun that one time? well now I'm going to stay in your house for 2 weeks"

>>41495319
>45 min hiit
>steroids
"no"

>>41495319
>>41495373
tfw you want to improve your health markers so you do cardio but you do hiit instead of liss and enlarge your heart then die of that

>>41495365
How can the tendon fuck up your cardio but not lifting?
I stream netflix and just go incline treadmill or moderate speed aesthetic staircase. It doesnt take much effortto bring up cardio health it could be tricky if you are just getting into tren. One of the many reasons i dont run it

pinned for the first time in quad, day and a half later its sore just above knee while i pinned maybe an inch or two below waist level

standard or did i do something wrong, no blood in syringe when i aspirated

>>41495400
>How can the tendon fuck up your cardio but not lifting?
Don't know. I only get shoulder pain when I run, lifting is fine. Never once had a problem with pain or soreness.

My mum ran a lot so her shoulder degenerated quickly.

>>41495416
shoulder pain is a legit precursor to a heart attack man

>>41495408
No redness itchyness inflammation?
Infection is the only real issue.
Virgin pip can be shit especially with mct. When i did quads for the first time it was like 4 days

>>41495429
It's not a heart attack. I've had this pain since I was a teenager.

>>41495434
so far below injection point though? reckon about a foot further down, and nah no bad signs, if i push down anywhere springs straight back, not hot to touch

>>41495373
>muh heart hypertrophy
You probably count your 3 minute walk to and from the fridge as cardio

>>41495429
Never heard that before...but im not a doctor just a hirmine enthusiast.
>>41495436
If you are about the bnc life or not taking decent time off you are going to need to figure something out

>>41495456
The oil is gonna disperse through the musvle and gravity is going to pull it down. My delts always hurt in my arm if i push like 2ccs.
As i said infectiin is the only real concern. Your not going to accidentally mainline it going into such a large muscle and you are gonna hit a nerve by accident sometimes but infection is the only dangerous part. Now stop freaking out and lift

>>41495472
>If you are about the bnc life or not taking decent time off you are going to need to figure something out

Doc has never brought up the issue before. Might see if I can't press him.

>>41495497
not freaking out at all brah, asking to see if this is standard

>>41495472
>3. Pain that Spreads to the Arm
>Another classic heart attack symptom is pain that radiates down the left side of the body.

>>41495576
Side note. Train whatever muscle you pin after. The pump will help

Hey everyone. I'm getting stronger, but my joints hurt now. Specifically just the ones in my arms. I've been hitting arms and they've been getting stronger and bigger, but when I pick up or put down weights I have a flash of pain in my elbow and along the arms.

Should I stop training them for a week or what? Or deload?

>>41491124
Did you try MENT(Trestolone)?

>>41495701
Sounds like tendons to me.

Just pinned my first 500 mg of test E.
I know everyone is different, so when did you first feel it kick in and notice a difference? Any uptick in mood?

>>41495281
yeah man, back then you were beta and fat, now you are even more beta, have a daki, ruined shoulders and knee, but a bit of muscle under your fat and hair.
Oh and you are now a pedo.

>>41495991
rapist pedo*

>on dnp for 2 weeks
>leaner than ever
>got a bit of a moonface going on, since i binged on carbs for 2 days

Fuck, I gotta go out shopping tomorrow for wigs for cosplaying and other clothes.

I dunno if I should starve myself or just go on keto with few calories until then

>>41495978
you don't notice it in any way other than physically and that's a couple of weeks, unless your e2 is sky-high, then you notice the mood swings from estrogen. it's all a meme/placebo.

>>41496048
sauce on ur dnp?

>>41495701
deload, and/or take a week off from anything that feels uncomfortable there.
Or you will seriously fuck your shit up.

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>>41495978
3 weeks until my libido skyrocketed, in week 5 now and feeling / seeing the effects now. you'll defs placebo yourself into some new PR's i'm sure though

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>>41495978
Wait, did you pin 500 mg first shot? or 500 mg a week? If it's test e, you should split the shots up into twice a week, unless you're intentionally frontloading

>>41496283
>not injecting 1g/week for your first cycle

>>41496283
> dividing 500 mg of test e into 2 shots

You are an idiot.

The glutes, quads, and ventro can easily handle 2 cc of oil. No difference in absorption of a slow esther between 1 @500 mg vs 2 @250mg except less injections.

Man up.

>>41496422
enanthate has a half-life of 3.5 days you mong

>>41496426
Test E is 10 days you moron

>>41496426
It's 7-10 days and you take it every 3.5

>>41496455
no you dumb ape.
>A different list of half-lives is often copy and pasted on various sites, claiming that, for example, the half-life for the propionate ester is 4.5 days and that the half-life for the enanthate ester is 10.5 days. This list is incorrect, and is the result of flawed calculations many years ago
>Behre HM, Nieschlag E. 1998 Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone esters. In: Nieschlag E, Behre HM, eds. Testosterone: Action, Deficiency, Substitution, ed 2. Berlin: Springer-Verlag; 329–348.

>>41496422
>>41496455
>>41496482
Consider suicide.

Daily reminder that SIS Labs gear is bunk

Hey /fraud/ bros

What's the general consensus on clen?

Looking to take my cut to the next level, but I don't feel like ingesting a deadly fertilizer. I figured I should avoid the sauna, but I have a high stim tolerance so a lower dose shouldn't give me the shakes too bad (famous last words)

>>41496509
Good that I got the 2 other brands my guy sells.
I hope they are legit.

>>41496527
Probably should have worded it better. It's not bunk, but legit SIS Labs gear is definitely underdosed. Switched to MTS recently and the difference in side effects is noticeable.

>>41490896
please do rotator cuff work, keep your shoulders healthy. even consider running tb500 through the cycle, do everything you can to make sure you have no impingement NOW, not later, not next week or halfway through the cycle.
trust me

>>41496516
clen is shit, get your hands on an EC stack and some yohimbine hcl and do lots of fasted cardio.

>b-but muh suicide beach body cut
either man up and use dnp or just eat less faggot

>>41492100
whats your physique like jerry?
are you dyel?

>>41496678
I read that their orals are good and their tabs shit, or the other way arounds, not sure.
I got taylor made and southern ghost eq and deca. Wanted only TM, but he sent me some SG deca vials, now I have 23g deca instead of 20, so I am not complaining.

>>41496740
>their orals are good and their tabs shit
???

>>41496806
exactly what I meant desu senpai.


or maybe should read oils/orals

>>41496894
what do you think is the difference between "orals" and "tabs"?

I've recently become hyper sensitive to salt, really small amounts of salt make food feel like the saltiest thing I've ever eaten, and I used to love a crap ton of salt on everything

only thing that has changed since then is steroids. anyone know what the cause is? my liver crapping out? high BP?

>>41497407
Your taste changed lmao. Salt really isn't that bad for you imo. I do manual labor on top of 6 days a week of training plus cardio ED. I sweat so much I need the extra salt to replace it. Best way to keep BP in check is going to be cardio.

Bottom line is if you do steroids you have to do cardio. Anyone that says otherwise is full of shit. I could see if you were to keep rest times low and do high rep work regularly but that's pushing it. Better off doing at least half an hour of LISS daily. It's not like it's difficult to walk at a incline for 30 minutes. Work your way up from there if you need more.

>>41497407
Also injectables don't affect liver health. If you're not a alcoholic or popping orals like candy your liver is probably fine. You can always get a comprehensive blood test for $50 if you're US. Google female hormone panel

>>41497490
What would you qualify as "popping orals like candy"

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>test consistently comes up way low of the "acceptable" range in my country
>docs keep telling me "its just who you are"
>meanwhile i have been a depressed unmotivated piece of shit for most my life

Haha time to rob trannies and play doctor on myself.

How significant are the mental effects of being on testosterone? the confidence, the energy, the motivation

Are they overblown? are there people out there on a gram of test per week who remain lazy and low confidence?

>>41489476
How bad are stretch marks? And how likely are you to get them? Planning a test e only cycle but that's the only thing holding me back....

>>41495038
my nigga

>>41497776
from not at all, to incredibly, depends.

>>41497826
On what exactly?

I started putting 1.5-2 tsp of psyllium husk to my shakes.

Why has nobody told me about this before.

It gets rid of the watery taste, calms your stomach and when you shit its smooth and 1 wipe only crew.

They should start putting this into protein powders desu senpai

>>41497776
i had very very visible red stretch marks on my left biceps for many months.

but it didnt bother me because i knew that shit would vanish one day, and it did. Its not visible anymore. The stretch marks turned white. So unless you are black you shouldnt worry.

but i got those stretch marks when i was natty so lmao lift more boyo

>>41497767
took me about 1year to find a doc who said "i treat symptoms not numbers"
but you wont get more than trt and you probably want more so get your homemade trt for the next 50years including blasts
>>41497771
yep thats me. more the lazy part but yeah. was and still am a lazy piece of shit
try alcohol for social gains

>>41499475
>but you wont get more than trt and you probably want more so get your homemade trt for the next 50years including blasts

All I want is to not feel like shit, but at this point it seems like DIY TRT is by far the best path.

>>41497628
idk but my first cycle consisted of 4 week adrol kick start fallowed by an 8 week var finisher with the adding sdrol in for the last 4 weeks. So probably something like that.

Also before anyone flips their shit, I also had a test base so relax.

How much do you guys pay for a 10ml vial of TestE 250mg?

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How legit is the advice Arnold gives in the Bodybuilding youtube video 'How To Train For Mass | Arnold Schwarzenegger's Blueprint Training Program'?

Among other things, he advises a lot of dropsetting, massive volume, 'shocking' the muscle after a while on a routine, and probably most controversially, always going to failure.

I also find it amusing that he admits he drinks his protein powder with milk when he famously said that milk is for babies and you should drink alcohol, so his competition would try it and fuck up.

>>41499769
> 12 imperial credits branded eith the face of our on true god.

The price can be wildly different dependant on location. What country are you in?

>>41499788
Jeez buddy are you sure you wanna get that big?

>>41499769
834 bakh
and you?

>>41499788
he was on massive amounts of steroids so it didnt matter what he did he would grow regardless.

i think going to failure everytime is pretty legit tho. massive volume is common logic. everything else seems like a meme

>>41499769
a half chicken, or 12 fresh yellow clams.

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>between the pecs roidzits
n-nooo f ugg, rather have back zits desu

day 12 of psmf
5'11
hovering between 248 and 249 lbs

weight loss has slowed down a bit now, body probably in starvation mode. going to do a refeed this sunday if i stay stuck at 248-249 lbs tomorrow

>muh blog

>>41499849
lol everyone does

who the fuck cares about back zits?

>>41499100
How did you get stretch marks if you didn't even grow?

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>>41499942
I dunno, but middle-chest zits are 3 times more painful to burst for some reason

>>41491492
Post cycle? Dang.

>>41499942
I never get any on my chest, and have 1 on my back right now.

>>41499942
Everyone who isn't a nigger

report and hide. still ban evading.

>>41499793
Argentina, it would cost me 25$, its pharma from Paraguay but the price is like 10 times less than pharma from Argentina so i dont know if i am gettin scammed

>>41500111
If it sounds to good to be true...
Then again if its convieniant buy one vial and get it tested.

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>>41499974
i looked like this after 1 year of natty lifting, cuckboy

>>41500144
Thinking of buying some winny from the same source and laboratory and see how it works, the winny is 11 dolars 10mgx100

>>41500061
best motivation speak in a long time. you can feel the hate 10/10

>>41500171
Nice gains. Shame about the fucking faggot bedroom

>>41500207
man wtf does everyone make fun of my bedroom.

literally every single time reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

but thanks anon

>>41500222
you have the kind of wallpaper my grandma has in the guest room at her house

>>41499818
Well I'm only running Low/Less low dosages of Test/Tren, and gonna run it for a long time.Still see if I can't make decent gains trying it out though.

>>41500171
Tinytrip? Stop pretending to be 5'10"

>>41500265
im flattered you think i look like tinytrip, which is nuts because he was much much more asthetic than me.

>5'10"

im 5'11" you subhuman

>>41500309
You're both pale midgets you're 5'8" max, and you look like tinytrip if he stopped lifting and eating

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>>41500374
>triggered manlet

>>41500061
>>41500148
bye bye

Just read a study that said caffeine increases the bioavailability of anavar. Guess I'm starting my caffeine ECA stack back up, two weeks off is long enough right?

what guage needle do you guys use for glutes?

i've been pinning quads with 1" 25g, but want to rotate sites, so looking at getting some 1.5" needles

Do you just shove the needle into your muscle in 1-2 seconds? Am I a weak pussy for taking 30+ seconds to slowly put it in, in case of some unexpected pain?

>>41500813
Just pin faggot

>>41500858
Yes. Really, really slowly.

>>41500813
wtf putting the needle in is painless, straight shove that shit like im the flash

>>41500813
in my fucked up scarred right vg i take it slow, in my left vg its about 2-3 seconds before its fully in.

you shouldn't do it that slowly, its like ripping off a bandaid, better do it fast than agonisingly slow.

>>41500799
glutes may or may not work depending on how fat you are, vg will definitely work with those tho.

I have 310 total test

>>41500877
Nice.

>>41501069
>tfw $80-$100 per vial

I hate Australia.

>>41501087
atleast there are reliable sources here, unless you're WA

>>41501103
I guess at least it's not Canada.

>>41501069
that's an amp, not a vial.
Here in europe you have the choice, pharma amps for 4-8€ and ugl vials for 25-50€ depending on where you look. Best of both worlds desu

I'm on day 5 of my four week PCT, using Nolva

I have small gyno lumps under each nipple. I'm at about 15% BF, and they're the only part of my body I am unsatisified with right now. As I shed more fat, I think they become more pronounced.

I used Asin and occasionally Nolva on cycle to combat gyno and e2. My e2 is pretty low right now or I would pop more Asin.

Should I wait until after the first two weeks of PCT to add in something else? I've read letro and AI's in general won't do much once the gyno has actually been established.
Should I switch to Clomid at some point? Or am I just fucked and should start saving for the ol' nip tuck?

>>41501087
Fellow aussie. God damn summer music festivals made us the roid capital and drove the price up

>>41501248
Everybody just wants to be a "shredded sik cunt". But half of them are too scared to put a pin in their ass and just take orals which are probably just sugar caps.

Why is /plg/ so cancerous?

>>41501248
> hurr le roid capital XD
You've never been to Florida

>>41501393
Powerlifters are all fat so they aromatise heavily leading to high estrogen and attention seeking behavior.

>>41501395
If he's not a Cuban spic or 80 year old why would he go there?

>>41501327
Lol pump orals trying to make up for a few years work in a few months then party with alcohol and unknown drugs bought from spaceman jack fir 4 days. I mean, what could possibly go wrong

>>41501395
Excuse me for not knowing the demographic of one of 50 something states of a country I've never been to. Ty bud

>>41501393
pl is such a broad subject and the result is shitposting when there is no well defined topic to discuss about

>>41501436
fuck u Yankee scum the south will rise again

1st PCT

>develop obsessive thoughts about a girl
>become depressed
>no energy
>zero sex drive

2nd PCT with lower dose ancilliaries

>Better game then when on test
>energetic
>feel great
>get horny when snapping back and forth with a girl

1st time I got indian pharma and ran 150/100/75/50 clomid and 40/40/40/20 Nolva

Second time I got some ancilliaries in suspension from some source

50/20/20/20 clomid and 40/20/20/20 nolva

What gives?

>>41501452
70s powerlifters were aesthetic as fuck. Where did it all go wrong

>>41501468
>PCT
There is your problem.

>>41501445
> Excuse me for not knowing the demographic of one of 50 something states of a country I've never been to. Ty bud
You country is 20 million people

> implying you arent our territory

> https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/6c70l3/drug_abuse_and_steroid_use/

what a fucking faggot

>>41501611
nice pseudointellectual analysis, pls don't make me visit r*ddit ever again

>>41501229
my gf gets me some sweet serbian olive oil for 2,50$ a pop when she is down there visiting familiy. and then straight up smuggles that shit into the eu.
gotta love her

>>41501640
Sounds perfect.
A guy I know at the gym does the same, I get them for 3€. Maybe I'll have to make him my bf to save a few bucks.

Just sweet for peace of mind when you know everything is sterile, clean, no contamination etc.

>>41501611
>wah wah someone give my half-shit opinion validation

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