/fat/ It doesn't have to be this way edition

Gotta eat clean to get lean, right babe? C'MON GODAMMIT!

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OP here.
>As of yesterday 256lbs 5' 11"

Started my plan today. Did some lifting after a short ten minute exercise bike warmup. Here is what I ate today. I was going to eat some lunch but got up late.

>800 kcal over
>But all on chicken and sugar free candy
>Used the sugar alcohol as a laxative to blow out constipation
>Already burned off the equivalent with running earlier

I'm going to try and double my output here, just to cover the spread but jesus christ my asshole is on fire right now.

>>41280009
what does lean exactly mean?
English isn't my first language

>>41280041
it means thin or skinny

>>41280022
Make sure to factor out caloric return from exercise but otherwise you're looking good, dude. Also protein should be about 1g per pound of LEAN mass. If I had to fire off the hip I reckon you should aim for 120-140 on the reg.

>>41279737
>weight loss is steadily slowing down despite eating less calories
i went from losing 5lbs a week to 3 and now i'm at 2, which is normal but i just hope the dwindling numbers don't become a trend. i'm eating well below TDEE.

>>41280041
Lacking in fat, though not necessarily protein/muscle. Chicken breast is lean. A guy who is shredded and low body fat but not bulky, or ottermode, is lean.

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>tfw ate a can of pam for dinner

>>41280079
I... what? Like the... spray oil you put in a pan to cook food?

Do you mean spam? Otherwise you may need to go to a hospital.

>>41280050
More like low body fat, since skinnyfat aren't exactly lean but still thin

gonna get lasik in a couple weeks for eye gains. looking forward to being an ounce or two lighter due to not having glasses and a few microns of my eyes getting lasered off.

I ate random junk.
Why even bother watching over what I eat. Even thinner, I'd still be a stupid loser.

>>41280139
yea kill yourself so you stop shitting up this thread and let the rest of us make it. you're not gonna get any pity here you stupid fat retarded nigger.

>>41280162
Thanks I just needed someone to tell me to do it. Bye.

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>>41280055
>Make sure to factor out caloric return from exercise but otherwise you're looking good
Yeah, I learned that lesson. My last diet I was doing heavy exercise bike, but I must have been way overestimating the calories I burned from it.

I really need access to a gym. I can't really much more than 75 pounds without a rack or bench.

>>41280169
good riddance

>>41280169
Down the road, not across the street.

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>>41279994
I am 6'1, 29 years old and I used to weigh 225lbs.

Then I started eating 1900-2000 calories a day, writing in a notebook EVERY THING I eat.

I'm now down to 200 in 7 weeks. Slow and steady is the way, guys.

>>41280237
good work man. but an average of over 3.5 pounds a week isn't exactly slow though. keep it up though.

Started at 305lbs down to 182 now at 5'11" lifts are like 1/1.5/3/3.5 without having done a bulk yet

Still look dyel but I have a huge rib cage, my chest is like 40" with minimal muscle mass. Can that be aesthetic once I put some mass on? Maybe it's my body dysmorphia but it looks weird to me

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I just found my ex on Tinder. Heart raced for a few minutes but evaporated. I immediately turned off updates and won't look at it for a few days just cause there is no point getting obsessive over someone who doesn't care about me. In fact, I'm going to go on an angry run to really release this energy.

Sorry to ramble. Just needed to get it out of my system.

>>41280290
I know that ex heart racing feeling. It will pass anon. Just try not to dwell on it

>>41280349
It went away a lot faster than I imagined and I don't feel too bad about it actually. Disappointed that I swiped right, but it's whatever. I doubt he will try to talk to me.

I've been doing so good. Last night was the first time I played with myself without getting depressed after. When we first broke up I cried a few time while masturbating (lol). Really doing good, he can't bring me down !!

Alright, i'm done with keto. I fell out of it by eating 25g of carbohydrates after being on it strictly for fucking months.

I'm just going to eat at a deficit and watch my macros.

Is MFP's macro calculations solid? I still want to eat only 1500 kcal a day, just want to incorporate more carbohydrates.

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>>41280407
>cried while masturbating

You a girl or trap?

>>41280483
>I fell out of it by eating 25g of carbohydrates after being on it strictly for fucking months.
What? One day of 25g of carbs can't throw you out of keto.

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posting this for inspiration

>>41280701
Be thankful you never got big man tits when you were fat.

>>41280701
You looks like me except I have massive man tits. I have gyno for sure.

>>41280407
L-London? Eitherway, that flutter won't ever go away, it's been 8yrs and I still get it despite only being a 9 month relationship. But you will learn to overcome it and ignore it.

Good luck anon! You'll get there

>only lost 5 lbs fat after a week of dnp eating a 500 deficit

WTF!!!

It feels weird to not eat cheeseburgers anymore. I stopped eating red meat two months ago and have lost 25 pounds and it just feels so weird to go to a restaurant and order something that's not a cheeseburger.

I always order fish. Fish is great.

>>41280770
Ummm, just so you know a 500 calorie deficit for 7 days is 3500 calories, which is the same calories in one pound of fat.

>tldr: you lost 1lb fat, 4 pounds water.

>>41280822
Do you know how DNP works kid...

>>41280822
He's on dnp though..

>>41280290
Bruh this happened to me too. Was about 2 months after we split and I was totally over it. Kinda threw me for a curve, it's a weird feel.

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Fat people live longer than thin people and are more likely to survive cardiac events

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2006/11/obesity-paradox-1.html


Fat can protect against “infections, cancer, lung disease, heart disease, osteoporosis, anemia, high blood pressure, rheumatoid arthritis and type 2 diabetes.”

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2006/12/obesity-paradox-2-how-can-it-be.html


STOP DIETING
Don't let the jew lies take you away from the true path
Embrace the fat pill!

>>41280770
Where did you find DNP? Serious question.

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>>41279994

just when running lads. just turned midnight

>tfw get shy when a car passes

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>>41280921

>>41280921
I think that's meaning that a healthy amount of fat (i.e. 7-15%) would be healthy for survival. No way 40%+ fat would increase your longevity.

post myfitnesspal ids

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/fit/ pls help, I just got a sick back day in but my mom made spaghetti and bread. I can't dirty bulk anymore, I already ate junk today. What do? Protein shake & sleep?

>>41281054
Just put a small ammount of food in your plate to not let your mom disapointed. Forget the protein shake.

>>41281046
Rayner05

I caved to hunger and had a bowl of shredded wheat and a slice of toast tonight after weeks on a fuckhuge deficit and with enough left in my daily intake to eat that much twice over and still be well under maintenance. Now i feel guilty as if I'd eaten someones baby deep fried and I'm afraid to eat anything tomorrow

>mfw eating disorder here i come

>25%
>2 weeks into cut
>facial aesthetics improved DRAMATICALLY

>>41280755
>tfw I discovered that my ex of 8 years got married

>>41281555
Same here, but I feel sorry for the guy that married her because I use to fuck her in the ass, choke her, make her lick up every last drop of cum. I wonder sometimes if she does that stuff for him, but I feel really sorry for him because he likely has no idea of the things I use to do to his wife.

>>41281594

Seriously what are they putting in the water to make young people obsessed w cuckolding, every single mention of relationships and someones either afraid of it or gets off on it. This shit is not normal get your mind right

>>41281663
hes 100% fapping to this. wife probably never had sex with him and always had a headache and now he's butthurt because she's taking Chads cock in every hole and she's telling him how much bigger he is than her fat faggot ex

creepy crawly, wiggly wobbly
fat, get off my jiggly body

>>41281681

>rararblar cocks filling every hole chad cocks holes faggots in every hole etc etc


I genuinely do not understand what the fuck is wrong with you people

>>41281663
>>41281681
meh, believe what you want, idc, the girl was nothing special, are you virgins butthurt or what because i mistreated a woman for my own satisifaction?

Why the fuck do you plebians not use fat wojak for op

>>41281744
Your tiny cock hidden beneath your fat body never satisfied her like Chad's is right now. He's MUCH bigger.

>>41281744

Did you even read what you're replying to?

>Sweet tooth today
>Instead of doping on sugar, get a bunch of sugar free stuff
>Pretty fucking good
>Hours later and my stomach is roaring
>Shitting liquid every 5 minutes
>Check the bag
>'Heavy consumption will have laxative effects'
>Figure out my consumed total of sugar alcohol
>Twice the recommended intake

Oh God, this is punishment. I've spat in the face of the Zyzz. The ride never ends.

>>41281594
He is probably too busy fucking her up the ass to think about it

So I'm almost done with 4 weeks of fitness training, I've been keeping it basic and maintaining a roughly 1800 calorie a day intake with a half hour on the treadmill every day. I've gone from 240 starting to 229, but the obstacle I'm running into is that my legs get sore as shit working out on the treadmill, and last night it felt like I could get shin splints if I kept doing what I was doing. First of all
>Feels fat man
Second of all, how the fuck do I deal with this bullshit? Could it be an issue with the shoes I'm wearing? Could it just be one of the many problems with a treadmill? Would running on grass make this better?

>go my entire life without eating vegetables
>broccoli and carrots make up 50% of my overall diet now
it's a nice feel. i've also been counting calories so long that now i can't see myself not doing it. i'm going to make it.

>>41281812
REPENT SON OF ZYZZ

>>41281890
1) if u has doms in shinz rest
2) shin excersizes are a thing, google around for a few many running sites have them.
3) more than likely your form is shit, but the only way to correct it is more running. see 2 b4 u keep going...

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My big toe hasn't stopped hurting since I walked two miles like 5 days ago. I want to keep walking but I can't.

>>41281997
Yeah I'm sure you REALLY want to and aren't just looking for a reason to skip your workout you fat piece of SHIT.

>>41282021
No, there's seriously something wrong. There's this weird creeking when I bend my right big toe and it hurts when I walk. This doesn't happen with my left big toe.

>>41281767
ya projecting pretty hard there, but lets get back to weight loss anyway

>>41281768
maybe i misunderstood what you said

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>>41281812
get yourself one of these, a stevia plant, this one is mine, i eat 4-5 leaves a day, seems keto friendly too

>>41281840
good luck to him

27m 370lbs here. I've got disgusting body acne all over my belly, chest, underarms, waist, thighs, shoulders, and scalp. legs and arms are clear. It never used to be like this, started about three years ago.
Is it normal for guys my size to have this? or is it some sort of skin condition? I do wear a compression shirt, would that be doing anything?

>>41282130
>wearing a compression shirt at 370
why?

>>41281812
good rule of thumb - if it is sweet, it is bad for you. (on a diet)

>>41282164
shit genetics means I'm really sloppily fat, and I want to look semi-decent in public so I wear a compression shirt to "tighten" myself up a little bit. doesn't make me look any smaller, but makes me look smoother. also man tits.

>>41282130
Any and all problems with your life and body you can pretty safely blame on you weighing 370 jesus fucking christing pounds. If it's still present when you lose the weight, THEN worry about it.

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>tryin to get into shape
>bike
>hike
>run everytime I get the chance
>normally run around 5pm for a few hours
>get fucked over at work and get stuck on the late shift
>only time to get cardio is around 2am
>isn't so bad
>feel pretty good running under the stars
>yesterday think to myself "It'll be a great idea to take a take a quick hike down that old logging road! It isn't that far!"
>nice night for it
>halfway through my jog I see something moving in the trees
>think it's an owl or a raccoon
>get a little closer and notice two large shining eyes looking at me
>it's a fucking cougar
>lock eyes with it
>start running backwards and quickly as i can while still watching it
>when I can't see it any more I turn around and run as fast as I can to my house.
I'm not doing cardio any more

Did anyone else develop a shitty temper when they started eating right and working out? Its nearly 2am and i'm just sat here seething for no reason feeling like i could deck someone

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Anybody go to a meeting?-did it help?

>>41282252
Yeah the first week or so fucking sucks.

>>41282202
well no shit. why do you think I post in this thread? I'm simply curious as to whether my skin problem is a condition or something that has everything to do with my weight.

>>41282265
I use to do AA, don't bother, misery loves company and they just talk about booze constantly, like nostalgia for a lost love. I imaine it is worse with overeaters.

>>41280041
>Doesnt speak english, and ask for help
>Donsent get hit with racsit shit
God Bless /fit/

>>41280723
Fatter

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Hey /fat/, I just wanna give you guys an update.

I was 260 pounds since like 2014. And since I started coming here, I went from 260 to 275.

Fuck you fatasses, you're a bad influence on me.

>>41282291

This is a couple of months in though and i feel fine otherwise. Maybe i'm just salty as fuck by nature and never noticed because i was always sedated with food and booze, i dunno

>>41282350
git gud fatty you fucking suck

>>41282350
>fatass trying to deflect blame

LOVE this meme

>>41282350
I've lost like 20 pounds since finding /fat/. Idk how these threads could've made you gain weight.

>>41282350
Im here since january and already lost 25 pounds, dont blame others for your lack of self control

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>>41282350
Thanks for taking since of my fat, fatty

>>41281959
I know my form is shit, but I also know that I have to keep running to correct the problem. I'm in a weird transitional period where I'm going at a pace that's not too slow to walk but is more comfortable jogging, mostly because I'm currently unable to continue running on my toes for extended periods of time. It absolutely sucks, but basically my body doesn't support my weight comfortably from that position because a lot of the load goes straight to my knees. I'll find a way to solve the problem, but I don't want to be forced to miss a day. I think I'll just change my workout to accomodate for this issue.

Another side note, if the muscles in the arches of my feet start feeling like they're cramping or tightening during a run, does anyone know how I could deal with that?

>>41282374
>>41282392
I'm a liberal and I believe that you're at fault for my decisions so fuck you.

In fact, I'm pretty sure you owe me money.
>>41282411
Thanks for making a sentence that makes sense, ESL-kun.

>>41282241
Just run on a track, use an exercise bike, or even a fucking treadmill (using a treadmill fucking sucks BTW I'm getting a workout bike for home ASAP)

>>41282350
I've been here four weeks and lost 11 lbs

>>41282265
this thread IS my overeaters anonymous.

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>>41282438
My gf really wanted a treadmill. She talked about it for a month. I tried to talk her out of it. "You'll never use it, bb. It'll just sit there unused."

She got mad and said I was just a hater.

She bought the treadmill and lo and behold, it went unused. Then she blamed me for destroying her confidence. That's why she never used it.

But I'm the bad guy.

>>41282040
Your
shoes
don't
fit

>>41282350
>t. boogie

>>41282460
So encourage her to get on the treadmill, if it bothers her a little bit good, just don't go overboard with it. Again though, fuck treadmills and their evil, it's not even real running, and I'd much rather have an exercise bike.

>>41282460
Ur an asshole

>>41282423
you could try swimming until your legs heal so u dont self troll.

How realistic is losing 30 pounds in 100 days? any anon able to live off only around 1300 calories a day? im 200 pounds and 6'1 btw

>>41282489
I don't want to spend a shitload of money on good running/walking shoes though

>>41282558
How much is a shitload of money to you? Just buy some Nike Air Max 90s or something for $100

>>41282548
if you do cardio you can eat a little more (1500) and lose the weight

i tried eating 1200 for a while and became a binge eater; its hard to stay on it

eat a lot of salad and protein and skip breakfast
run, lift light and high rep

good luck!

>>41282570
I have flat feet so I don't even know what shoes to buy.

>>41282541
Am I?
>>41282526
That's what I tried to tell her. She has a bike, I have a bike. I tried to tell her: you'll have more fun riding a bike than "running" on a treadmill. Nooooooo the women on the internet said get a treadmill. They know more about weight loss than you, anon. Since they're fat and you're not.
>>41282570
That's because you're a confused wigger.

>>41282579
http://runnerclick.com/10-best-running-shoes-flat-feet/

a quick google search buddy

>>41282601
fuck you I already googled it and those are all women's shoes.

>>41282610
Well then maybe you shouldn't have womanly feet!

>>41281046
Roflbecca
Inb4 grill

>>41282579
Just buy New Balance shoes for people with flat feet or buy some Dr Scholl's for flat feet.

Or buy a tennis ball.

>>41281498
Get that kind of shit out of your head, Anon

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>failed to lose weight every year since 2009
>every new years resolution was a false start
>mfw I'm sticking to it this year, down 30lbs

nearly 10 years wasted, why didn't I stick to it years ago

>>41282610
http://www.saucony.com/en/echelon-5/18993M.html?CID=AFL-LSHARE_Saucony&siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-MDvPokYPVZRXN07n3SkCOg&sma=sm.00000wu1hn68r6fmuwrjcs7c6m90s

Here is a nice pair I found, if you don't like the price i'm sure a little bit more digging on your part should remedy that.

How many calories does lifting actually burn? Mfp says something like 900 an hour but that seems ridiculous

>>41282660
Do you use these personally?

>>41282681
Little to none. Don't count them.

>>41279994
>getting over last nights food poisoning
>dropped from 129lbs to 126.
Hurts knowing it's just water weight and will be back in a few days.

Currently at 1k cals out of my 1200.
Can't bring myself to eat anymore

>>41282694
No, because I don't have flat feet. I do really like Saucony as a brand though, real nice quality. I would get them if I were you. I think they have a pretty decent return policy if you don't like them.

>>41282130
It's probably the compression shirt, also compression clothes are weird with body hair. Sometimes causes ingrown hairs.

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>>41282696
ah fuck, been tracking it as 500, probably set myself back

>>41282570
Faggot fuck off, if you look hard enough there are perfectly fine running shoes at the thrift store. Fucking A, why are shoes so goddamn expensive? It's the most retarded thing in existence, and yet a bunch of dumb niggers and wiggers buy it

>>41282653
It's okay, I tried to lose weight my entire life by doing everything BUT counting calories. Every meme diet, crash diets, etc. Took me until 25 to start eating 1500 a day and now it's just coming off effortlessly.

>>41282423
Google some streatches anon

>>41282591
So make her use the goddamn treadmill. There are two outcomes for this. You are either on the treadmill, or you aren't.

>>41282762
broke boi

>>41281498
I had dessert and whiskey the other night, if you're staying extremely consistent the rest of the time and you continue to exercise, your attitude will keep you from failing. Seriously, when I exercise my attitude towards food changes 100%

>>41282758
Rookie mistake. But you live and learn. You'll get there broseph! Only track cardio for calories

Post good feels and achievements fatties!
>tfw officially "normal" BMI

>>41282930
>tfw 5kg away from normal bmi
>tfw i have no face

>>41282785
>hurr durr I'm under 30 and spending money on materials that retain no monetary value
>I laugh at all the people who don't relegate themselves to a permanent peon class like I do
lynch yourself faggot

>>41282460
Women are dumb bitches that think they know themselves when they rarely ever do. They'll never admit you're right even when you are in every way. My gf is the same way as yours but with pets. She loves rabbits and wants one as a pet yet she always ends up hating them or being bored of them. She gets one, "omg it's so cute i love it so much!" a couple of weeks later she no longer cares at all. Another few weeks later she takes it to a store. Repeat this 3 times or so in the spam of a year and a half. One day she decides to randomly buy a chinchilla, completely spur of the moment didn't even talk to me about it, just came home with it. She took it back 2 days later. Fast forward and now she wants a dog. She's a relatively busy person and whenever she's at home and not busy she's like me and is lazy, just sitting around on the computer or playing a game, there was no fucking way with her lifestyle would she actually handle taking care of a dog for an extended time.

I tell her it's a bad idea, she'll get bored of it, it won't work out. "omg anon you're such a negative nancy i hate ever telling you things cause you are always so negative!!". She actually kept the dog longer than i expected but she pretty much hated it. Loved it for a month or so, then would just put an extended leash on it and keep it in a designated area at all times. I thought that was cruel as fuck personally but she's retarded. Eventually just got rid of it. Fast forward like 3/4 of a year and oh now she wants a cat! I wonder how this could possibly play out, i wish i knew.

It actually pisses me off, calls me a hater or negative nancy yet i am right 90% of the time and i am not even exaggerating. 90% of the things i'm "negative" about end up being completely true or exactly what i said, because i'm fucking realistic not negative. Never once admitted i was right.

>>41282544
>>41282772
Top notch advice guys, I'll keep at it until I make it. Admittedly I'm just looking to be skinny for now, we'll see how I feel when I get there though

>>41282427
phoneposting autocorrect

deal w/it

>>41280701
How tall are you? Your before is nearly 20 pounds lighter than me but looks somewhat similar.

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R8 my dinner

266 calories and i'm full

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>was 265 at the beginning of March
>now 258

S-slow and steady wins the race, I guess

>>41282980
If all you care about is weight loss then exercise is really minimal. It's great for your health but moderate exercise for an hour every other day is going to average to like 150-200 calories a day. You can exercise enough to significantly affect your weight but it takes multiple hours of hard work every day and your diet still matters. Basically maintaining a calorie deficit is way easier than exercising extensively and maintaining a calorie defect.

>>41283168
He can't be that tall because I'm 5'10 and 275 pounds and I'm not as fat as his before pic.

>>41283230
Aaaaand now I want to watch The Critic again.

>>41283222
needs another hunk of chicken tbqh

>>41282241

Fighting cougars is great for your core though.

>>41283230
You've had a full month of... whatever you were doing, now make some adjustments so you can lose faster/be more satisfied with your progress.

>>41283222
what are those black things on your fork?

Is it really binge eating if it's steamed green beans? I ate 200g/60kcal of beans but I still have this overwhelming sensation that I'm a loser for eating so much

>>41283222
I'm jelly, I should eat more broccoli

Just stop eating you fatfucks you won't die

>>41283324
Did it fill you up? Is it nutritious and not a lot of calories?

Then you're fine.

>>41283310
It's rust because Cuisinart sucks.

I'm not too worried. My doctor told me I needed more iron.

>>41283324
There's something to be said for not stretching your stomach out but calories in-calories out is still all that matters.

>>41283330
It was actually really easy to make.

Season chicken breasts and put them in a baking pan.

Break apart a crown of broccoli and throw it in next to it

Cook at 375 for 40 minutes and you're done. Prep time was like 5 minutes

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>>41280290
>saw my ex at Walmart while I was picking up chicken and peppers
>she gained 20lbs
>she got 16+ face piercings
>she got at least 12 bad tattoos all over her body
>mfw she talked to me
>mfw she texted me after "you look great anon I'm really proud of you we should hang out sometime"
>mfw dodging that
>mfw she texted again the next night when I was with one of my FWBs
It's an abstract kind of good feel.

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Final numbers for today. Coming up with tomorrows meal plan now.

>>41283363

Every girl I've dated for more than a month or two has gotten incredibly fat.

Must be the hot beef injections.

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>>41283703
Tentative for tomorrow.
Trying to stuff some more protein in there.

>>41283715
She's a mess, in the 2 years since we broke up I've lost 100lbs, stopped smoking weed and got my degree, I'm about to apply for grad school. She's dropped out of college, started taking drugs and ruined her body, I wouldn't touch her with a 100ft penis now.

>>41280701
That's a super fat looking 240
Are you like 4 ft tall?

>>41283870
I'm 170 and look like I'm 220, BF% is a strange mistress

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will my tits go away when i lose weight? do you think i'll have to worry about excess skin?

>>41283867
they treat the money they spend on shit food the same way you or i look at the money we spend on rent and car insurance

>>41283879
What height you space engineer?

>>41283905
you look on the more optimistic side imo, only one way to find out for sure though

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How do "poor" people get super obese?

This guy was complaining about being too poor to afford a cab but was eating through $200+ worth of food per week

[spoiler]Reposted with correct picture[/spoiler]

>>41283907

>>41283926
holy fuck 700,000 calories a week

>>41283905

not big enough for gyno, you're just fat, but not fat enough for excess skin

>>41283905
you barely even have tits

I'm not posting mine but they're pretty sizable.

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>>41283920
6' even 170llbs
down from 280

london etc

>>41283905
what tits

>>41283870
>>41283168
5'10

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>>41283990
>those tits

This post makes me want to die

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>>41283990
>what tits

>>41283926

cheap junk food is full of simple, calorie dense sugars

Little Debbie snack cakes are a popular post on kryptonite/cheat threads. I have a massive sweet tooth and I've been able to finish 3-4 boxes at 1200-1800 calories in a night.

Most people don't pay attention, and it adds up fast.

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>>41284040
I'm cutting to a low BF% then considering surgery. I still get laid though, currently banging 2 girls.

>>41284041
I was replying to the itty bitty titty committee, I know I have some knackers

>>41281890

I can't ever maintain a walking/running routine due to shin splits and relatively bad knees. I think either elyptical or rowing machines could be more appropriate in those cases.

>>41283990
ayo gurl, lemme hit dat boipucci

>"eat some peanut butter, it's more healthy than meat, there's not that much sugar in it, sugar isn't your enemy!"
is there any way to easily explain how wrong this is

Went from 290-293 to 266 as of today. 2 months was really fast, and I know most of it is probably water weight, but fucking a I feel great and people are noticing.

>>41284590

good job anon, keep it up

>>41281054
THANK YOU SUPREME GENTLEMAN

>>41284599
Thanks anon, this thread is the best.
>We're all gonna make it

Sugar Alcohol Guy here. After nearly shitting myself to death, I recovered and hit the gym hard.

I fell off the wagon and inhaled 3,791 kcal for the entirety of the day. Ended up burning 3,921 kcal by the time I got back home around midnight, counting all the calories earlier in the day.

So I just about broke even, considering. Given I dropped out of keto on my binge, may be a little rough and I expect to pack on 1 or 2 but tomorrow begins a 'normal' IIFYM diet.

Wish me luck, chaps.

>>41284645
You can do it anon. Remember, no meme diets, just wholesome food under your calorie allowance.

>>41284738
Fuck you and fuck carbs

>>41284738
Gotta get right, baby. Appreciate the confidence.

>>41284759
Keto works, bro. It's just time for me to cycle off. It's ran its course - 110 lbs worth of course.

I just need to be human again.

>>41284765
How long did it take you to drop that much?

>>41280407
Yo I used to cry while masturbating after my bf dumped me. I'd get so mad afterward too. We got back together though and now we're married.

Should I get a Fitbit?

>>41284777
September 2015 until now. 1 year 8 months-ish?

>>41284796
I love mine. The display is broken but I've had it since i lost all the weight, so it's a bit of a good luck charm.

I'm hyper-competitive though, so I try and break my steps or really anything on a daily basis.

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Gonna go back to the gym for the first time in ages tomorrow morning. Is a 20 minute swim to warm up followed by a few sets of arm workout a good starting routine. I just want a 1 hour quickie before work.

Would Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday be a decent amount of times at the gym

>>41280770
DNP increases water retention, you will only see your proper weight after being off for a week

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>bump into girl with my backpack today
>she says I am huge and my backpack is huge too
fuck I need to drop 30 lbs to get into military shape

>>41282040
Gout?

>>41282241
I'd tell ya to stop being a pussy, but cougars are actually pretty ruthless. I run with bears and wolves, lynx and shit all the time though, they're not generally aggressive. Where you from?

>>41284895
I don't think so. Isn't gout pain pretty bad? It's not like excruciating pain but it is annoying. It happened while I was walking so I would think it would be related to that.

>>41282252
I thought it was just me, but the leaner I get the more angry I become. Stupid things cause me to lose my shit, and I'd be embarrassed to have anyone with me when I drive and roadrage out

>>41284817
Damn that long? I don't have that kind of patience. How many calories were you eating per day?

>>41284957
1800 and I stalled out for a while because of muh depression.

It takes longer than that, my dude. I still have some tum and lovehandles, not as muscular as I'd like. Its hard to make significant lifting gains when you're cutting at such a degree, go figure.

If you want to change your life entirely you have to invest a lot of time. Them's the brakes, sweetheart.

>>41282548
Easily

>>41282703
It can't come back if you don't drink water anon

(finger pointing at Temple)

>>41282958
If spending 100 dollars on good footwear is that absurd to you I really pity you anon.

>>41282703
126? How tall are you?

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Day is done, carbs would've been lower but eh, no biggie.

>>41282696
This is wrong. Lifting weights burns alot of calories especially if you're putting up really heavy weight

>>41279994
Protip: any fatties on /fit/ already know how to lose weight. But after a few days they decide the means don't justify the ends. They eat a few salads, meal prep a couple days etc. But then they stop going to the bar to get drunk every weekend. Can't eat whatever at restaurants. Spend their spare time in the gym. It just ends up not worth it to them. EVERY fat person knows deep down that it's because they eat like shit, but they make excuses because most people can't admit their perceived "failure."

>>41282696
HORRIBLE advice.

Shit, yesterday i went out to play basketball with friends, had a few beers, and we ended up playing for 7 hours, now my feet are sore, and my recently healed ankle is swollen again.
Fuckin alcohol...

>>41285049
>Buy this stick of gum for $75
>If you think $75 is too much then I pity you, poor fag

I love people like you, too stupid to understand it's not about the money being a detriment to your finances, it's the principal of not wanting to get ripped off by corporations with Chinese slave labor.

I see people here having calorie goals of like 1500. I'm eating at a 1000 calorie deficit and I'm still eating 2500 calories a day. 5'8 180 btw. Am I just weird?

>>41285092
>Comparing a stick of gum that you'll chew on for an hour then spit out to a pair of shoes that will last years

You're a special kind of retard.

>>41282681
More like 200 an hour, on average. If you're putting up heinous numbers (you're not) then it's 300 to 400.

Don't give yourself an allowance on calories by lifting weight anyways. It's a crutch.

>>41285073
that's fine. If most of them wash out I still want to be here for the ones that don't.

>>41285073
>More energy
>Sugar cravings gone
>Visible progress
>get better treatment from everyone
>catch more and more women checking you out
>joint pains disappearing
>unhealthy foods/drinks slowly start to tastle like dogshit
>etc...etc

You seriously have to be a mongoloid to think this is not worth it. Stop thinking everyone is like you.

>>41285107
>nikes last years
LOL, I guess if you're a nigger and keep the Jordans in the closet. Fucking moron.

>>41285139
>like you
I was clearly talking about the average fatty on /fit/. What grade did you stop learning to read?

>>41285153
I did not say you're wrong, but with comments like these, you're actively making the statistics worse.
What's the point? You wanna appear smart on an anonymous imageboard?

>>41285099
Well I'm 6'2" and 90kg (198kbs?). Technically my TDDE would be around 3000 considering I lift 4 days a week, martial arts another 4 and swim every day. I just set it lower because I work best at extremes, if I try and "ehhh" it I always fuck up. All or nothing it seems for me.

>>41285175
Sorry, I'll check with you for the appropriate comments I'm allowed to make on a basket weaving cuck porn sit.

>really sick all day yesterday
>look in the mirror this morning, look noticeably smaller
>decide to weigh myself, lost 1.5kg in a day

this cant be healthy

>>41285198
What made you so bitter, anon? You can talk about it here.

>>41285202
Lost water in form of sweat, due to sickness, drink more water.

>>41285220
>says the fagot who raged out on a post about fatties
Who fed you too much anon? You can talk about it here.

>>41285146
My dad bought me a pair of Nike Air for my 17th birthday. They've been my gym shoes ever since. I'm 31.

>>41285240
Whoa, this talk about raging, come on now.

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>>41279994
To fat people:
Why?

Just lose the weight, just like plan your fucking meals and use the cycle and row machines at the gym

Can you trust the calories counter on static bikes? This one's even asked for my sex, age, height and weight.

>>41285257
Your bar for when you think people are angry and rage is extremely low.

I'm eating earlier and earlier everyday I wake up piss, weigh myself then immedietly eat 1600kcal. It's so easy not worrying about cooking or anything

>>41285311
Might be, but then again, this applies to you just as much.
People tend to use ad hominem either when they are best buddies or when they are indeed buttfrustrated, and i don't think we're that close.

>>41285258
People are fat because they either (or a combination of) don't want to lose weight and/or struggle with it. Not wanting to can be because of a lot of reasons: mental illness, self delusion (I'll still be a loser so it doesn't matter is pretty common in these threads) , HAAS propaganda. Struggling with it is different, fatties usually go their whole lives eating 3k+ calories a day with minimal exercise and change is hard. It's similar to asking why people who play 80 hours of vidya a week don't quit, it's their normal.

>>41285485
HAAS?

>>41285377
>Arm chair statistics

Go back to plebbit

>>41285498
Healthy at any size, or at least that's what I think it's called. The dumb whales who think that being >400 lbs is fine as long as you lie about swimming a couple times a week.

>>41285512
I should swim. But large bodies of water are filthy and disgusting.

I lost 130 pounds. Anyone else here lost alot? Im the blonde guy with long hair who was a neckbeard. Curious if anyone remembered me

>wake up
>shit shower n shave
>get on scales hoping i've finally lost more after stalling out all week
>it's gone fucking UP

I've been absolutely autistic about doing everything right, this shit makes me want to lose my fuckin mind

>>41285602
You have lost a whole me at my heaviest

biceps sore for 3 days now. first time i lifted in a long time

>>41285621
stop obsessing over the number dude, you should take pride in sticking to your diet, not the number. as long as you're doing the right things the number will come down with time.

>>41285658
The first time I hit arms I struggled to bend my arms for like half a week lmao, ease back into it.

>>41282321
/fit/ is the best board
simple really.....

>Exercised more than ever.
>Ate better, cut a lot of crap, all sodas and snacks.
>Weight the exact same as 3 weeks ago.
This isn't very encouraging.

>>41285257
>>41285311
>>41285377
>>41285510
You two are the worst.

>>41285894
did you count calories?

So I'm in the doctor's office about to get diagnosed with pre-diabetes if I'm lucky.

I've already started walking five miles a day since I learned this was probably coming. I've cut out all non-water beverages and massively reduced carbs, and added in more vegetables.

I know I need to get on calorie counting instead of winging it.

Do you guys have any advice or success stories?

>>41285894
go measure yourself

weight loss doesn't accommodate for muscle gain

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god fucking damn it /fat/


for almost 3 weeks i didn't fail my diet once and actually lost like 12 pounds

but today i've been sorta stressed and had a "does any of this really matter?" attitude, and just about an hour ago, i ate about 2,500-3,000 calories of junk

(1 processed cheap burrito, about 12-15 taquito's, 1 small chocolate bunny, 1 big chocolate bunny, and a big slice of hot pepper cheese)

the reason why i am panicking is because, for some reason, i keep getting thoughts of giving up. idk why, i am just being bombarded with "this is all pointless anyways" thoughts.

any tips to cheer me up? or anything? i've had thoughts similar before, but now its extreme

Daily reminder to not drink diet sodas, even though they may have 0 calories they are still pure poison.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/04/170420162254.htm
http://newsroom.heart.org/news/diet-drinks-and-possible-association-with-stroke-and-dementia;-current-science-suggests-need-for-more-research

>>41286080
You can burn that shit off right now if you want to. There's no reason to give up, just keep going. You'll only fail if you stop trying.

>>41286080

Whenever you feel like falling off your diet, remind yourself who is in charge off your body: you or your cravings and bad feelings? You may have to fall off the horse 20 times, just get your ass back up and take control again!

I think I can post this here, too.
Since I have a problem I just can not seem to solve or have not the balls to solve.

I want the following :
Start to care about myself
Achieve success
Stay healthy

This is my current situation:
I am out of jobs, clinging on a dead end job.
I am looking at other jobs to finance my student life.
I don't seem to care about my looks, I just let myself go although I still lift.
I am fat and live in a household inhabiting neurotic, toxic people who just mean well, although all it does is just hurt my self esteem.
I am depressed and on pills.
My situation frustrates me, but also I feel like it is too much a hassle to change it and I am too comfortable rotting in my comfort zone.

I don't know what else to add, please ask me questions, let me answer them and help me to help myself.

>>41286080
Tbh i've been feeling like this lately as well, lost about 25lbs with another 15 to go and i'm starting to feel like i can't be arsed

I think ultimately you have to remember that the reason you started is because you're not happy with how you look. I know i'm sick of looking in the mirror and feeling disappointed, even with the progress i've made, and that's what's keeping me going. If you're happy with how you look and your energy levels on a daily basis, then stop where you are

Ever since I started losing weight, my libido basically fell through the floor


Anyone else go through something similar?

>>41286131
Get off the pills. Anti depression medications have the same effect as the placebo. They give you lower sleep quality and makes your problems bigger over time. Quitting them is a good place to .

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>people actually struggling with motivation
I look a lot better, feel better, get compliments and have better sex without even needing to bother with food.

>>41286173
> not having a battenberg while fucking as an intra-workout snack

fucking proles

>500 kcal deficit all week
>yesterday was a holiday and I relapsed and ate 6000 kcal

Hold or kill me p-pls

>>41286149
Yeah mines pretty shit too. I never really get aroused. Although mine could be because I never go anywhere except Walmart and work both of which have no attractive women. I find fapping to be a chore and only do it to sleep better.

>>41286206
>ate 6000 kcal
how? like what do you eat to get that much in you?

>>41286215
Not him, but cookies, milkshakes, greasy burgers, pizza, carb loaded shit can easily get you to that.

>>41286259
>burgerS and pizza
I'm not sure I can even eat that much in a day over several meals. And I'm like... 280lbs?

How the fuck do I quench my sweet tooth, other than putting a noose around my neck?

>>41286215
Big breakfast with the family including 4 eggs, two bread rolls with ham and butter~1000 kcal
Lunch was a Schnitzel with fries and coke ~1500 kcal
Dinner with friends was double cheese burger with fries and coke ~2000 kcal
Snacks was a bucket of popcorn and coke in cinema ~1500 kcal

Sad thing is that this wasn't even that much of a big deal because that was common when I was around 300 lbs.. I'm at 220 now though..

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>>41286281
Stevia is my saving grace. Use it in smoothies, oatmeal, protein shakes, everything.

>>41286259
This
Also I'm 6'4 and my tdee is around 3200.. as if that would make it any better ;((

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FUCKING SHIT FUCK

it's been 2 weeks since i was cutting at 1400-1300 calories (before you ask, no, i'm not counting my calories wrong, i checked a thousand times and i'm totally accurate)

and i'm still stuck at fucking 77 kilograms, yes, i drink a shit ton of water

why the fuck am i not losing weight

>>41286080
>>41286145
In these times I try to go for a new "day 1 attitude". Imagine what you felt and saw the day you decided on your new diet/work out plan and apply it to today. Throw away all progress and thoughts of "I look better than 3 weeks ago atleast" and pretend that today is day 1, because I bet you still think you look like shit in the mirror.

>>41286355
>(before you ask, no, i'm not counting my calories wrong, i checked a thousand times and i'm totally accurate)
Will need proof. Write what you ate and drank yesterday.

>>41286355
>77kg
>trying to lose weight

Either grill so post feet or manlet and in that case please remove yourself..
..from this planet that is

>>41282321
>english is now a race
kys you retarded nigger

What do you guys think of these services that propose to deliver to you everyday 3 balanced and healthy meals?

>>41286389
I'm 6' and 170lbs. There's nothing wrong with losing weight at this weight if you're not comfortable with your bf %.

>>41286485
Expensive as fuck and so much more fulfilling to cook it from scratch.

>>41286496
I'd have to calculate exactly but some I see look cheaper than buying myself. Maybe it's only because the price is lower the first month, though.

>>41286376
a glass of milk in the morning (150 calories)
a small cheese sandwich (400 calories)
a plate of spaghetti (800 calories)

this whole thing is about 1350-1500

>>41286389
I'm exactly 6 feet tall yet i still have dad bod, that's why i'm trying to lose weight

>>41286487
>>41286517

Just FYI
Start lifting weights in addition to your fat loss now because once you're cut down enough you'll be unaesthetic twinks with stretch marks

>>41285080
>counting exercise calories
>a good idea
You NEVER count them unless you're an athlete.

>>41286550
isn't bodyweight enough?

>>41286591
Lol nigger are you serious

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>stop smoking
>gain 4kg in 45 days
>establish victory over nicotine
>start ketoing, counting kcal
>drop 3kg in 10 days

>>41280483
I can eat towards 30g of carbs and only lose a ketone level, not get kicked out of the whole thing together. Wtf man

>>41284638
>>41281054
Let's not ruin this thread gentlemen.

>>41280999
I'm the opposite. Everytime a car passes it makes me haul ass so I don't feel like an exhausted fatty in front of all the girls.

>>41281532
Dude the first thing I noticed was my jawline magically reappearing. Shit's great.

>>41285073
Yeah, but cut people some slack, at least some of us want to try and get better

>>41285244
Well if we're talking something like that, then sure it's a little different, but I'd still prefer to try and at least get a better fucking deal on a new pair of shoes man

>>41285258
Everyone forgets that getting rid of the fat means making gains + mental gains.
There are more former beaten/raped children among the obese than the general population.

Fat is some sort of easy armor you can buy yourself with food to protect you against the world. You can get rid of it once you're able to walk the world without being scared shitless.

>>41281046
suneku

>>41286779
Vertigeau

Anyone have any recommended brands of protein powder? Looking for vanilla flavor mostly but i'll consider chocolate.

Also related question, what do protein shakes taste like? Do they taste like shit or are they okay? I imagine a vanilla one would taste like a more shitty version of a vanilla icecream milkshake.

>>41287229
>Anyone have any recommended brands of protein powder? Looking for vanilla flavor mostly but i'll consider chocolate.
>Also related question, what do protein shakes taste like? Do they taste like shit or are they okay? I imagine a vanilla one would taste like a more shitty version of a vanilla icecream milkshake.
Optimum Nutrition is GOAT.

>>41287229
You've never had protein shakes before?
What the heck is wrong with you

It seems like no one in /fat/ fucking lifts

>>41287242
ON is only acceptable if you're US based

If you're European and you use America products you're stupid or uninformed because EU regulations are very strict thus European protein powder has better quality

>inb4 burger hate

>>41279994
I've been eating nothing but food I order from amazon (vegetable juice, ramen, luxury kraft dinner among other things) and I take a multivitamin every day. I eat very little and do 0 sport so I've been losing weight but am I going to die?

>>41287284
>ramen
>vegetable juice instead of raw
>kraft anything

You are going to be fine, but you could be doing MUCH better.

>>41287311
It's not quite kraft dinner, but it's probably not much better. I leave the house on occasion to get eggs, milk and frozen vegetables (corn, peas and black bean mix).

>>41280009
Is 4 scoops enough to be doing whatever it takes?

>>41287243
do you think that protein shakes are essential if someone intends to lift weights?
literally cannot be done without them?

>>41287325
>(corn, peas and black bean mix)
those are starches not vegetables

>>41287623
Of course not. It's much more convenient, cheap, and efficient to get protein this way though.

>>41280921
>2006
Most of the "fat people live longer" cases are usually incongruent to lifestyle, noting prolonged use of pharmaceutical drugs vs non-use, resulting to a higher chance of survival.

Most of the thin people who do get cardiac issues are usually undiagnosed, so there is a high risk that nobody knew they had a cardiac episode to begin with.

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>>41284780
wtf , I thought crying while fappin was a meme .

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>eat clean, they said
>ok
>eat lots of broccoli, brown rice, black beans
>take a fiber supplement
>few hours later
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFFFFPTTPPTT
>FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPT
WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE MY GUTS?!

>>41287892
body readjusting to fiber

you went from 0g to 150g aka full retard

>>41287892
You're weak.

>>41286116
>>41286125
>>41286145
>>41286363
thx guys :'D

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Keep doing SL/SS or switch to some 4 day program?
Still making progress at 210ib DL, 205ib squat, 150ib bench and rows and lastly 95ib ohp, it's still working, it's just that I've been down this road before and dropped off it due to extended stays away from home with no gym access so started back at square one after Christmas.
SL is a little boring due to a lack of volume and varied exercises.

Currently walking 18 miles a week to and from the gym as well, 4 day program would bump it to 24 miles.

Suggestions? I'm 6.2 335ibs atm if relevant.

>>41287892
there is a reason humans have consumed white rice for thousands of years, Brown rice is a recent trend and there is no benefit to eating brown rice over white rice.

>>41281046
kiiberharpen

>>41288055
PPLPPLX
Just fuck your shit up senpai.

>>41282252
I think it's the return of self-confidence and an ego coupled with a raise in testestorone when you start cutting especially if you're lifting and doing cardio as well. Last time I cut (6 years ago) I turned into a bit of an arrogant twat - this time, I'm noticing the confidence and impatience with idiots/lazy people thing returning again, but I'm trying to temper it with a bit of patience and recognising my own shit as being its own kind of weakness if it can cause shit or hurt other people for no good reason.

Funny how you end up improving your body and then have to work on improving your mindset as well.

>>41282350
I've lost nearly 70lbs since July last year which was helped considerably by this boards sticky as well as lurking here nearly every day.

So no. If you fuck up, it's your fault. Recognising that is the first step to improving yourself as well as picking yourself up when you inevitably fuck up due to the whole "being human" thing.

Good luck in your next attempt.

>>41282653
Do NOT do that to yourself.
It's unhealthy to think and beat yourself up for something in the past. That sucks that you didn't continue all those times, but you are this time. You got it bruh

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Weight loss is at the same rate as making gainz. I don't know how I should feel since I've prioritised weight loss. Anyone else got this feel?

>>41282973
No offence. But get out of that fucking relationship right now.

I'm all up for helping your other half fix their problems to a degree, but if they can't recognise massive faults with themselves and have no interest in changing and keep doing the same shit and expecting different results, then they're just going to ruin your fucking life in the long run man.

Trust me. I know from experience and wish I'd acted quicker. Instead I let shit run its course for 5 years before I finally came to my senses.

>>41283222
Looks lush man.

>>41288165
Noob gains are nice
>cut 80lbs
>all my lifts kept going up
>just hit a wall finally
>still 30lbs more to go

I'm switching up my routine to more volume and going away from a strength program.

>>41285658
I've lost a shitload and been doing nooby weights for a few months but I decided to do 4 sets of 10 squats the other day with 20KG weights. 4 days later and my legs are still a bit sore. The first two days I could hardly walk - still dragged myself to teh gym for cardio though. I don't mind, in fact I kinda like the aching pain - it shows I've done something, but it kinda sucks when you have work and are on your feet all day.

>>41285894
It took me 4 weeks of constant dieting before my scales even shifted bud. Very disconcerting I know but keep at it and eventually your body will relent.

Equally depressing is when you're losing a shitload on a constant basis and then without changing anything, you suddenly hit a plateau for a month where your weight hardly changes.

On those days, it does truly feel like God hates you or something.

Finally got out of a plateau after 2 weeks. Losing weight while not being neither fat or normal is a lot more difficult than being whalemode.

Feels good after not much progress for a while though, going to keep at it.

Any tips for losing that last bit of weight? (I've already reduced my calorie intake for a smaller weight)

Is it better to exercise close to a fan and keep fresh or just get warm and sweat like a pig?

>>41286215
Tbh easily - I lost a crapload, then after 6 months I had a week off and decided to have one day just chilling with weed and food and to go all out.

I ate about 8000 calories that day.

Felt like utter shit afterwords and had a relatively non diety week. Took about 3 weeks to properly recover and start losing steadily again.

(wouldn't recommend it - my cheat days these days are about 2500 calories max)

>>41288249
Sweating is good for you.

>>41287229
I know I'm going to get laughed at for this, but I really like myprotein's impact whey. I've only tried their chocolate peanut butter flavoured one so far but yeah, it's nice and not overly expensive.

what happens if I don't eat enough and lift?

>>41288315
lose weight and be sore

>>41288315
Depends what you mean by ''eat enough''. You mean less than your TDEE?
If you're new to lifting and still fat, your lifts will still go up for a good period of time. Lifting will retain muscle even if you're cutting.
It's the only way TO retain muscle on a cut. Obviously that and high protein.

>>41288315
Your muscles will be consumed to be turned into more muscle, of course.

>>41288338
>Depends what you mean by ''eat enough''
130g of carbs, 100g of protein and 1500 cal and I'm 84kg. As far as I know I should eat like 2g of protein for every kilo of my bodyweight and like 300g carbs? Can't bring myself to eating that much though.

>>41288429
Lower carbs, get more protein instead.
You don't need high carbs, what the fuck.

>>41288260
That's what I thought.
I need to buy more shirts and underpants.

>>41288169
We've been together for 4 years at this point, she's fun to be with when she's not being retarded and the sex is bomb (even though i'm a bit of a fat fuck still). I'm pretty sure she's thinking of breaking up with me soon though, so i'm just coasting in the relationship at this point.

Should I invest in a treadmill or stick to just running outside? I don't like other people seeing my lard ass so I get up at 5:00 am but with work making me stay late I can't sustain it anymore. What's the cheapest treadmill I can get?

>>41288470
Run outside. You'll get a treadmill then never use it.

>>41288492
>>41288492
>>41288492
New thread

>>41288484
This. Get a bike machine if you need an at-home cardio machine; treadmills take up shitloads of room and running outside is better. Biking at home at least is pretty good exercise.

>>41288469
You sound similar to me bud. I was in the same situation when she started blaming her problems on me and the relationship...we had about 4 conversations that she started about breaking up over the space of 6 weeks. On the last once, I was doing the usual, fighting for the relationship and why we should make it work and a little voice in my head said "fuck this shit, you've done your best, you're done, kill it". So I then ended the relationship there and then and moved out the next day.

First 8 weeks was hard. Had to sort out the flat and see each in the first month moving shit etc but our breakup was relatively civil and we still get on alright. Though now I've lost a shitload of weight and made various drastic improvements in my life I know she wants to get back together. I still care for the bitch, she's not a bad person, but I know that we don't work together so it's been a no from me. Kinda sad in a way but hey ho, that's life.

>>41280921

The medical establishment likely somewhat underestimates the best weight for health. This is something to think about if you're like 15ish or so pounds over your ideal weight.

It doesn't justify being a human hippopotamus half melted into a Wal-Mart scooter.

>>41288558
Yeah that's basically me. I put 110% effort into the relationship while it seems she doesn't even really try. She's talked about breaking up before and just like you, i put in 110% and fight as much as i can explaining why we shouldn't. We had another one a week ago which is why i think it's gonna be over now. Just like you i have done pretty much everything i possibly can in this relationship, i'm just tired of even trying anymore. What's the point in fighting and putting in effort when she doesn't even really give a shit but pretends she does. If she wants to break up i'm not gonna fight it cause i'm done, just let it happen.

Funnily enough she actually mentioned during our talk last week that i wasn't quite acting the same as usual. I think it was a bit of a wake up call to her that "oh shit, i think i went too far he's not fighting".

>>41288242
cold showers

First week on keto and I went from 180 to 169.

I know a lot of it is water but feelsgoodman. Only 5% body fat to go

>>41286312
I just took your advice, just got back from the grocery store with a jug of Stevia, put a few spoons in my glass of applecidervinegar (obviously diluted in water), and ... oh my god, it's drinkable! Now I want to try run this through a sodastreamer and then I might be set for the rest of summer.