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/Fraud/ thread - high test edition

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Steroids general

Cheating manlet vegans stealing your girls.

NO SOURCE TALK. GO FIND THE WIKI IN LEDDIT.
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index

Old thread 404'd so time for a new one.
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Var is killing my libido. Need to cut back because qts are wondering why I don't come with them. But OMG it feels so fucking good.

need to get some proviron
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>>40894691
I'm about to start var, how much are you taking?
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22 week blast, should I finish with 12/14 weeks of mast e at 600 or something longer at about 400?
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>>40894703
It's suspended in orasafe or whatever that shit is called, sometimes I do like 35 drops a day, sometimes 10. I think I measured each drop to me 2.5 mg
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All is going according to plan. I have upwards of 6 packages in the mail this week, on the guise that they are summer outfits from online retailers. Actually true, I'm gonna look joozy dis summer
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When are the sides of cialis (acid reflux, headaches, sometimes nosebleeds?) supposed to kick in?

Is it the whole 48 hours you're under the effects? Once the effect stops?
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>>40894956
SHOO SHOO SPOOKY SKELETON
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>>40894662

im a noob and about to start my first cycle of 500mg test/e, i read everything for month and the only thing that still gets me worried is PIP.

Can someone please tell me how bad PIP hurts IF it happens? I am fucking scared to death to get PIP or hit a nerve, like on a scale of 1-10 how much pain usually is it?

I read beginners will most likely get PIP because of virgin muscles.. so i just want to know how much pain it will be since i am a fucking pussy when it comes to pain, not gonna lie.
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>>40895018
Pip can be just a little soreness or it can be damn near debilitating, lots of variables, quality of gear, injection technique, some people do better than others with certain solutions like ba etc. I've only had bad pip twice and for me even the bad ones were not that bad, my buddy gets so fucked up depending on the carrier oil used, swelling, pain etc, he had a bad quad pin that put him of work a week before he figured out it was a carrier oil issue and switched gears
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>>40895196

What does one do if PIP is getting to painfull?
I work in an office, since i will definitly start pinning my glutes i will most likely not be able to sit IF PIP happens and is as worst as on your buddy for example...

Do i just tell the doctor that i injected steroids and that he needs to fix my shit?

Im not concerned to openly talk about that with my doctor, just wondering if its even necessary do visit the doc.
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>>40894956
SHOO SHOO SPOOKY SKELETON
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>>40894662
I love the person that created this image.
Full-homo.
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>>40894173
only because you're handsome and swole so it's not too creepy. I am now even more of a deviant than I was before I got /fit/ but women are more likely to give in to my depraved ideas because I'm good-looking (implying).
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>>40895230
No just tough it out for a few days, unless you think you are getting an infection, then probably go tell your doc. If you work in an office you will be able to get though the worst pip without losing out on work
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>>40895366
speaking of fetishes, this isn't really a fetish, actually pretty natural desu... It is spitting on ur dick. Or having a girl do it. Like as lube. I love the scent. It makes me a savage.

>>40895230
dont tell your doctor shit
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Is 24 weeks blast too long if I want lean growth and then shred up last 6 weeks
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>>40895453

Because of insurance reasons or why exactly?
How could you tell him in "legal" words that something is wrong, or will he find out himself whats the case without telling him you put a needle in your ass?

>>40895407

Allright, thanks for the input!

One more thing: everywhere is writting to rotate injection sides because of scar tissue build up, is this allready neccassary on a 16 week Test E cycle? (injecting every 3 days)

Im asking because i will start with the glutes since its the easiest part.. can i rotate between my two glutes or do i need to involve quads/delts too?
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>>40895453
>dont tell your doctor shit
t. murrican

I mean, don't just treat him like a bro you can pour your heart out for but most are pretty chill if you're just about minimizing health risks and block their whole moral approach if they have any from the get go. That in mind, going to the doc for a bit of pip is absolute faggotry.

>>40895476
How long is my piece of string. Tell us what you're blasting, m8. Generally anything past 20 weeks is a bit overkill but if you're not running yolo amounts of shit you may. Done 30 weeks with some compounds myself but it kinda fucked me up lel
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>>40895494
rotate both glutes and two other sites of your choice. some people scar super fast and you don't want to find out if you do.
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>>40895512

How does one know he build up scar tissue?
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>>40895512
4 sites for e3d injections is overkill as fuck
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>>40895494
>How could you tell him in "legal" words that something is wrong
Pay his entire salary.

Dont tell you're doctor. They will write that you are either using steroids or inject able drugs. Insurance could be a bitch.
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>>40895571
harder to slide the needle in, with lots of it plunger will struggle to go down, also the area will be more injury prone and less sensitive to touch over time. not an issue for anybody not pinning like three times a week for 5 years though, I'm just half-shitposting lel

>>40895610
speak for yourself. I mean, normally it is, but I for example shoot quite a sizable amount of oil, couldn't really jam it all into two sites without hurting myself in the long run. but as I said above this shouldn't be much of an issue for most people.
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>>40894691
Are you using a test base? That could fix the libido
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>>40893734
Yes, literally all of them. You use a test base because they stop natural test production and almost all of them cant substitute for having testosterone in your body.
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>>40895018
I only get pip in delts with test. Otherwise test is virtually pip free for me. Pip daily from tren ace, but pip knots usually disappear by day 2 so i just rotate the tren. If you direct your showerhead while showering onto the muscle having pip and just let the water run for a while ,warm to hot water, usually helps get rid of pip faster. Not scalding hot water
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>tfw 5 months worth of tren land today
Ayy

Now if only my other source would ship my EQ already instead of emailing me polite small talk all would be well
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>>40895742

Thanks.
Yes i read that cold water shouldnt be used because that stops be bodys ability to transport the crystals...

Is one usually able to lift of he has PIP (like average PIP not hardcore PIP).

For example could i get a legday done when i have PIP in my glutes or is it reccomended to wait till PIP is gone?
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>>40895762
dude same. mine hasnt actually told me if its shipped, or what service its coming in. I honestly dont give one fuck as long as it goes undetected, but still.
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>>40895777
You can and should soldier through it most of the time, yeah. There IS crippling pip that stops you from it, but with normal amounts as you said, a bit of stretching and enough warmup should do the trick.
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>>40895797

Allright thanks, everything answered.
Ready to board the gains train
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>>40895762
didn't your source just start a 1-4weeks hiatus/vacation?
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tbol 1-6 50mg
LGD 10 mg 12 weeks
weeks 1-6 Test e 750 weeks 7-22 300
weeks 1-18 eq 1000
gw 20 mg14 weeks
weeks 7-22 tren e 500
weeks 9-22 mast e 600
Week 17-22 Winnie 50 ed
CJC no Dac 3x100 Ghrp2 5x100
Lean gains for most then cutting at the end, not sure to go with the tbol LDG combo, Epi, I'm a little nevous about superdrol and wouldnd like opinions on going full bloated with dbol or anadrol (never used anadrol, nervous for same reasons as Sdrol) Mean't to be mostly dry lean gains, I think I should make a few kgs, possibly extend it to 24 weeks and run something bloatier at the start and shred around the mast times, Any tips?


Should I man up and do some sdrol? with tudca?
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>>40895777
My approach is to pin after exercise, that way the muscles can absorb the oil faster and there's less pip. Heating the oil also helps. And the shower thing. But like the other anon said, all you gotta do is soldier thru it
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>>40895853

Heating oil in warm water in the sink for like 2 minutes? Or is there a better way? Is rolling the vial in your hands for a few minutes enough?
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>>40895824
just use the dbol.
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>>40895853
Warming the oil*
god please don't heat your gear on a spoon kek
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>>40895762
Tfw been on tren for 5 months

You ever ran epi, if so what's a good dosage?
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>>40895866
Hold it in your hands for a minute or two, works for me
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>>40895871
But fat


Has anyone run epi mid course /with winnie or S4 with winnie?
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>>40895889
No, nobody EVER has EVER done that. EVEr.
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>>40895882
>A N Y girl dresses like this
>Instant mires by every guy no matter what

How can I draw attention to myself like this if I'm a guy? Tanks and shorter-shorts only go so far
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>>40895873
WHATEVER IT TAKES
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>>40895824
I hope youre planning on using an ai, you know LGD is going to smash down your SHBG, and that means more free test, which means also more estrogen conversion without an ai, and less shbg for the estrogen to bind to.
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>>40895904

get filthy rich and step out of a lamborghini

thank me later
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>>40895904
In that case it's probably more her body and face. If you're shredded and have a nice face people will mire no matter what you're wearing. Hell I 'mire QTs wearing oversized tees because they look C O M F Y as fuck.
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>>40895762
>5 months worth of tren

RIP your relationship
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>>40895902
I mean in here bra cmon we're all m8s,
would you recommend s4 with winnie or a lil epi in the cours or am I using too much?
What about MGF
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>>40895931
Of course man I got fina, adex and clom on hand ez access to others
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>>40895938
>be hot grill
>wear tights
>people look at you in gym
>wear loose fluffy sweater pants
>people try to sneak even more looks at you because shape of ass sticking out from otherwise loose and unsexy sweat pants makes it even more eye catching

*shrugs* what are people even expecting you to wear?
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>>40895993
nothing. literally go to the gym stark naked.
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>>40895936
>thank me later
Psh, women are impressed with any mid-upper range sports car from Lexus is F and Audi rs5 to a huracan it won't matter much for 99% of women unless you want an Instagram whore who'll take pics on your freshly detailed car every fucking day.

Hell an entry level German car will work on the majority too as long as it's clean and in good shape.

>>40895993
>even more looks at you because shape of ass
Not even that desu I just like it because they look happier a lot of the time and it shows that they're there to workout and less to fuck around.
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im legit scared the estrogen in the water is turing me into a faggot.
should i testup as a precaution?
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>>40895018
>Can someone please tell me how bad PIP hurts IF it happens?

PIP will occur and there is nothing you can do about it.

The first time you inject into a new muscle it will hurt like a worse DOMS. That's it. It's not bad at all.
All recommended injection sites avoid nerves and veins so you don't need to worry about that. Just do the procedure correctly.

For me, I only inject into the ventrogluteal site, but I am a nurse so I don't know if that site is too technical for a layman. It doesn't seem hard to learn though, just learn where the head of your femur is and where your iliac crest is, and inject kind of in the middle. Look up a chart. If you aren't sure where to inject, press with your fingers on the spot where you think it should go, then stand up straight and shift your weight gently from one leg to another. If you are in the correct spot then you will feel with your fingers the site tense up. That is the muscle you want to inject into.

After you inject into muscles for a while, there will be little to no pain. At least, that's what happened to me. I get very, very, very slight soreness after injections now. You can run the vial of Testosterone Enanthate underneath a hot water faucet (don't contaminate the top) to warm up the liquid, this will reduce PIP.
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>>40895453
>dont tell your doctor shit
Why. If you live in a first world country, they can't prosecute you for what you disclose in a private healthcare setting. That is illegal.

How do you think heroin, crack, and meth addicts get treatment? They go to the doctor and say "I think I'm having a heart attack because of the crack I just freebased" and the the doctor immediately reports him to police and has him arrested?

You could technically bring your doctor with you for your entire steroid cycle, informing him of every detail and showing him your injection cycle, and he would still treat you and try to maximize your health.
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>>40895993
no, its because you dont come off as a attention whoring slut. you come off cute and innocent, thus people like you.
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>>40896131
>like a worse doms, thats it

i literally couldnt walk correctly my first 3 injections because of how bad the pain was.

I couldnt flex my quads when walking, so i had it locked out the entire time which made me look retarded like hell.

Try walking without bending your legs. fuggin impossible
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>>40896131

Thanks man, just one question:
>(don't contaminate the top)

Why does that matter? I mean i will clean the top of the vial before drawing with alcohol swaps anyways or do i realy have to make sure no water touches the top of the vial?
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>>40896131
>All recommended injection sites avoid nerves and veins so you don't need to worry about that.
t. someone who has never injected quads
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>>40896172
>Why does that matter? I mean i will clean the top of the vial before drawing with alcohol swaps anyways or do i realy have to make sure no water touches the top of the vial?
You really want to risk contaminating the top and HOPING you clean every single microscopic organism off with a small alcohol pad before you draw up?
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>>40896223

First of all i life in germany near the alps, we have literally the best water in the world.

Second the shady guy from the internet that brewed my shit probably touched the vial with his cum stained shitskin hands anyway, so i even think it would be better hygiene if my german masterrace water touches the top of the vial.
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>>40896150
I N S U R A N C E, R E T A R D
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>>40896246
Wirf dich vor nen Bus Kevin.
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>>40896109
rad140 and water filters bro
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>>408962580
>tfw Aussie and this doesn't effect shit
Also blood tests for juice are free here , after you buy a $90 vial we have some benefits
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>>40896368
ty. le ebin waterfilter merchant will be happy.
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>>40896204
Best quad tip, sit on a firm surface like a coffee table that you'ce pushed against a wall and have knee right at the end, make sure it's high enought that your foot doesn't touch the floor, then lean back on the wall slightly away from the quad your injecting, there's no muscle pressure at all and quad will completely relax, you'll just no chance of that weird twitch thing that can happen
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>>40896478
I know it's a meme but it does work my man
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>>40896246
>Second the shady guy from the internet that brewed my shit probably touched the vial with his cum stained shitskin hands anyway
The tops are sealed..
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>>40896258
since when is your doctor allowed to speak with your insurance?
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>>40896524
> TELL DOCTOR ABOUT AAS USE
> HE LOGS IT
> INSURANCE ACCESSES MEDICAL RECORDS

WOW IM SO RETARDED HOW COULD DOCTOR SPEAK TO INSURANCE HURR DURR
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>>40896517
i belive you. i feel i lack test & seeing all theese numales in town somehow got me.
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>>40896536
lmao land of the free

you guys fucking suck
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>>40896564
Also things like resveratol will lower est which raises test.
Sarms/serms are a great way to feel like a man and make very decent gains if you aren't ready for test, I'd reccomend a stack of LDG MK677 MK2866 and RAD, S4 is strong but it fucks with eyesight and fuck that shit
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>>40896536

friendly reminder that america is a shithole.
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>>40896760
No need for reminders here...
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I'm kinda a new lifter, my form is good, but I want to get some dbol, anyone know how to get some? Just ask sketchy dudes at the gym? I'm a home gym lifter at the moment.
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>>40895904
>Tanks and shorter-shorts only go so far
Are you trying to get attention form dudes or girls?
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>>40896805
kill yourself idiot
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>>40894173
>and surprisingly not gross to ladies.
Now I want to know what those fetishes are. lol
I've never had anyone weirded out b y the kinky stuff I like, but I'm pretty vanilla.
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>>40896754
screencapped for further research.
good anon!
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>>40895018
if you take longer depressing the plunger (say 30 seconds) rather than less than 10 that will reduce soreness a bit, and leave the needle in for the oil to settle for longer too (another 40 seconds works well). just go steady and dont be in a rush basically, and massage the area after of course
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>>40896885
I'm nice and benzod/eqhidined/ tramdoled right now if you wanna talk, a friend of mine is currently doing a cycle I designed him which has 1 technical steroid but no one round here really coults it, proviron, and he's looking unreal man just like hes on juice, but most people simply have no idea how to train/ eat so they get left behind

I just finished my blast and I'm taking a few days to get a little smashed, I never drink or anythin on cycle so this is my reward
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>>40897143
>I designed him which has 1 technical steroid but no one round here really coults it, proviron,
Curious, what makes you think you're qualified to be giving advice on cycles given your (presumed) limited experience?
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>>40897182
I'ma pt and have been lifting for 9 years, doing diet plans and routines for others for 4 years as a pt and coached 3 men into there comps, sarms are fairly new to me but I do a lot of research, theres a lot of stronger chems (juice, peps) but sarms are so safe and easy to use a lot of lads prefer them.
Anyway all I was gonna say is something I would do or advise to a mate, you could research to your hearts content after taht, I was just trying to be nice because im in a very good mood haha
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>>40897245

>im a pt

Stopped reading there
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>>40897452
Ok famalam it's a job that pays like any other, don't see the hate
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Tudca is fucking amazing
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WHY IS IT DEAD I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHINESE MYSTERY CHEMICALS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>40897550
I'm here, just lazy.
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>>40897718
What are you running
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>>40897841
Comfy cruising for the time being, will treat myself to despicable amounts of deca and EQ come May, not yet decided on dosage but probably neither of them below 600.
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Is adding 50mg proviron to a cruise a bad idea?

Also what orals to buy for /summer/? Already got absurd amounts of var
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>>40897881
Wanna sort out a cycle for somethin to do now?
Do you wanna bulk or cut?
Deca or NPP?
Can you afford priimo?
Ever tried any peptides?
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>>40897898
25 on cruise is fine imo but itd be cheaper to add 100/150 mast e a week for very similar effects
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>>40897905
Not him but can you give me the run down on primo
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>>40897917
50mg proviron is like 20 cents a day lol. Also got mast p but it would be retarded to add that in low dosages to a cruise
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>>40897898
Also orals for lean are sdrol, winny, EPI, tbol or oral tren
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I did my first lightweight burnout on cable curls 3 sets of 40. Figured since im a fraud now i should do fraud things. Great end to my workout, fucking unreal pump.
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>>40897905
>Wanna sort out a cycle for somethin to do now?
meh, I can try, but I generally suck at giving cycle advice, I've BnC for too long to even care.
>Do you wanna bulk or cut?
Fucking bulk. Breeding steer levels of lean mass shall be had.
>Deca or NPP?
Deca for me, NPP in case you are asking what to cycle.
>Can you afford priimo?
Never cared much for it, I could cop it off someone for pretty cheap though if I saw the need. Trick question.
>Ever tried any peptides?
Nah. I plan to, but I haven't decided which are worth the hassle yet.
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>>40897921
Most underrated steroid of all time, also very expensive and needs to be run minimum of 16 weeks at 600-800 to see real resukts, many people call eq the poor mans primo, it's not an extreme mass builder but it will grow you with zero water and just makes you look amazing


>>40897944
Mast p yes, but mast e is great for cruising as it boosts free test meaning you need to use less test, also its a very feel good drug and heightens libido, look it up it's surprisingly common.
But where do you live where its so cheap?
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Maybe I'm just being petty but holy shit that jcaesar guy on leddit is fucking annoying with all his delusional ass stories about how big he is. I'm looking at his fucking instagram and dude looks like a barely out of highschool jewish kid who doesn't lift.
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>>40897977
If you are american you can get 10 weeks worth of GHRP2 and CJC no DAC for about $200 bucks and see how you like them, MGF is like 120 for a week or 2 though, but long term effects are massive for lagging areas


>>40897977
How big is you famalam
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>>40896847
Lots of primal predator/prey stuff. Erotic lactation. Forced orgasm. Choking. Spitting. Etc.

My laundry list of kinks is tedious. Every young girl these days likes DDLG shit or non consensual consent stuff, so my stuff is icing on the cake.
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>>40897947
Don't know a lot about epi. Is it epic?

>>40897983
A panda sells almost every raw in bulk provided with lab tests. Shipping is 40$ though
Aaand I have to cap it all myself or make a PG solution. Also 100g dnp for 25$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0xB62O6pE4
Trevor actually prefers proviron over mast
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>>40897983
HOLY FUCK 190$ for 150mg/ml 10ml vial.... I'm poor af
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What top put here pls help
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>>40898054
>epi
I just got some too but I'll probably stick with var for the time being.

>I have to cap it all myself
I bought a mg scale and just weight out the doses and throw it in my mouth washed down with coffee or water.

>>40898085
primo is like $12/g for raws so unless you're going that route I wouldn't recommend even running it. Plus the sheer volume of oil is off putting.
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Natty here, on the third consecutive day of PPL (using "coolcicada"s from Bb.com). I'm going to have to drop it to 3 days a week instead of 6, and I'm for sure going to increase my dose of test, from what I was planning, when I get on. Then I'll be able to get it back to 6 days a week. I'm still able to do swimming for cardio everyday regardless.

I might get a hold of some deca as well for that fabled tendon strength. Might be useful with all the arm work in PPL.
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>>40898010
Not concerned about price (also not American), I'm more on the fence about which to exactly try out. Might just order ALL OF THEM and do some experiments kek

>how big
Fairly small actually, roughly 92kg at 6'1, 13-14% or so. I only recently started to care about muh aesthetics, that is what this bulk is essentially for.
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>>40898085
Yeah man I said it was costly, I want it in every cycle but no, simply impossible, it also needs to be run 16-24 weeks at 600-800 lmao


>>40898054
It's a milder Sdrol with far less sides, it also cuts you up harder and gives energy instead of making you lethargic, also you can run it at higher doses for 6 weeks instead of the 2-4 of sdrol, but if all you want is gains you'll probably go with sdrol, epi just wont make you want tio die
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>>40898018
I suddenly feel less depraved than I thought I was. Thanks bimbs.
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>>40898054
for the DNP you need to factor in that handling that shit yourself is awful, and well worth the price for buying capped depending on seller. I mean, I technically have the training to do it and I shy off of it because, naaaah.
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>>40898107
Make sure you fina up after being on proviron for a bit man it's known to grow prostate
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>>40898156
I was a part of my local bdsm sex club and regularly went to beaten by a fit Thai dominatrix and my ex. I think you're good.
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>>40898127
why not tb500 or something to stay natty
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>>40898194
Fair enough, kek. I'm into lots of questionable shit but I thought I was pretty much alone with some of it. Might be all the stuck up bitches around here too.
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How do I transition from high test to cruise levels without messing up my E2? When do I stop taking asin after my last high dose pin?

>>40898155
Epi sounds bretty good. Guess I'll try it out

>>40898172
Yeah but being a poor af student I don't really have a choice. Budget lyfe
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>>40898220
I dunno maybe ladies just want to be hedons with me. Regardless I just throw my shit shit into the ether, idgaf, and for some reading ladies latch into it and are like "yeah that's cool".

One girl I'm talking to has a milf/bimboization fetish. The other has a cream pie fetish and is slavishly submissive.
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Got "Var" and I'm on day 12, fucking shit has to be Winny. My elbows pop everytime I bend them. I'm strong as hell so I wanna lift heavy as fug, but the god damn shit has killed my joints and tendons and I'm so fucking sore after my workouts. It's so tempting too. Stopping it now though, Winny is shit m8, hair falling out too :( :(
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>>40898380
Sounds like winny. You should sell it or save it for when you want to cut and look grainy. It's a cosmetic drug anyhow. You'll see no benefit from it for now.
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>>40898200
why stay natty? Its completely uselss
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>>40898380
What constancy are the raws? My var looks exactly like sugar.
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>>40898101
PLs help
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>>40898107
>>40898127
>>40898085
I like talking to you guys
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>>40898289
You'll never know, they hide it well. Cutest most shy gf I ever had was actually pretty into all kinds primal/dubious consent, even told me to up the tren because she liked being ravaged so much. Freaky but enjoyable.
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>>40898143
From bluesky you can bulk order peps, 30 bjbnodac and 30 GHRP2 for a couple hundred bucks, years supply or more, I like cjc 3c100-150 ed and GHRP2 5x100mcg ed
havent tried any igf/mgf bc its fucking confusing and the whole gut thing
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>>40898567
Yeah no way I'm gonna deal with IGF and related stuff. I have no need to leave humanity behind, I just want to be stronk and look like it. GHRP2 I've heard, GHRP6 worth trying (I see both shilled)? I'm absolutely newfag tier as far as peps go so give me the cliffs notes.
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>>40898526
well if not staying natty go all out not halfway
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>>40898551
Shy girls tend to be pretty freaky. I also don't mind being the one to corrupt them, a kink, but it can get tedious with a girl that doesn't know how to do much herself. Especially if they can't ride cock for shit.
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>>40898596
I like the way u think man good idea
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>>40898591
Grhp2 is the newer model better in every way, Ipam is the 3rm model, less strong but can be dosed higher and less possibility of already nearly non existent sides, go with 2, at th dose I said its similar to 2-4 ui of hgh at a fraction of the price, theres some lads with blood work where it was as effective as 12ui of gh, but it the half life is so short it's not actually as effective
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>>40898638
Well if you're not after corrupting virgins, it can still work. Like, she knows how to handle a cock, but only has had vanilla sex until now. Boom, get her into the vile stuff without the actual need to bother with "no put this here, yes now do this, ok stay like this" for hours on end kek
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>>40898658
Mhm, sounds interesting. Will definitely read up on it then, and probably get some for the novelty later, thanks for the info m80
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>>40898669
That I S super tedious. I enjoy coaching and directing but damn some of these ladies really act like sex isn't an interactive experience.

The struggle is just girls whose legs get tired.
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My friend gave me 7500 mg of Test e, needles, ect everything except for any AIs or SERMS.

I see people use alldaychemist for pharma grade PCT, but if anyone can recommend a place to look or how to approach some dudes in my gym I'd appreciate it.
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>>40898692
Some just don't give a damn. I have a dog that lays on its back on command, I don't need my girls to do that (and expect mindblowing orgasms no less). One reason why the whole redpilled r9k marry a virgin stuff doesn't work. Sex will be AWFUL lol
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>>40898649
400mgs test e 12 weeks
250mgs deca 12 weeks
that's plenty first cycle, usually its be just 500 test but if you want deca taht'll do
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>>40898681
>reading things from scientists and not neets on a chinese cartoon board
just buy them
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>>40898018
Shit seems pretty normal to me. lol
Lactation is probably the most far out there.

>my local bdsm sex club
Always afraid to try that shit out. I'm afraid it'll be elderly uggos and fatties.

Where did you meet the girls? Through a fetish site? Or just tinder and ask them what their
kinks were?

>>40898551
>even told me to up the tren
Sounds like a keeper.
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>>40898018
What is "forced orgasm"
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>>40898737
I might pick up the deca later but I've got test and EQ right now. Gonna have to get more test for sure because I'm upping the dose from 400mg to 600+/week

I have enough to cut and keep my muscle mass, but I want to look SOLID TIGHT and JUICY
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>>40898746
Don't hate, I just like to research stuff and get anecdotal reviews and such. I'm gonna run it anyway but that doesn't mean I can't kill some time at work by reading up lol
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>>40898809
rape play, or rape
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>>40898769
>Sounds like a keeper
Lmao actually was, in a way. Didn't work out in the end for bullshit reasons but until then 11/10 would unironically wife. And not only because of the barnyard animal tren sex.
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>>40898814
What eq dose?
run it for 14 minimum
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>>40898018
>>40898156
>>40898823
How does this qualify as a fetish? This is completely normal.

Don't tell me you fools haven't realized yet: 99.9995% of all women have the exact same sexuality: light rape play, "roughness" e.g. throwing her around and taking charge, light choking, spanking, and basically you doing all the work while they lay there and take it.

The closer you get to that ideal, the more women will enjoy it. Women don't have fetishes. Women are really fucking boring. They just want to be roughed up by musclejocks, that's pretty much it.

Now, admittedly it doesn't matter to me what women enjoy because I only care about what I enjoy. But if you're the homosexual type who has a "girlfriend" and you care about her feelings or some gay shit like that, then yeah, there's about a 99% chance you should add choking to your routine if it's not already in there
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>>40898821
Yeah it's annoying to do too, gotta inject away from carbs
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>>40898692
Gotta hit dat dere fornix so they spaz out from super intense orgasms.
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>>40898809
>"forced orgasm"
Just what it sounds like. You know how girls get hyper sensitive post orgasm, to the point where they push you off because it's too intense?

You basically hold/tie them down and keep going. Usually with a vibrator turned from stun to kill. lol

It can be used as a "punishment" in bdsm stuff.
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>>40898909
This is dumb.
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>>40895824
> SARM with steroids

Not a good idea desu. Sarms will just compete with actual steroids for androgen receptor sites
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>>40898898
650/week
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>>40898909
you again. begone, redpilled scum!
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>>40898692
girls always tell me their pussies are sore after fucking like three times

idk how you people who go all night and shit do it
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>>40898912
My main issue probably. Although it does make sense of course. Eh, I'll find a way.
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>>40898975
dude lmao
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>>40898975
Why do you think your body had enough androgen receptors for overs 5gs of roids but not for sarms?
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>>40898909
>admittedly it doesn't matter to me what women enjoy because I only care about what I enjoy.
That sounds boring to me. I mean if you just want to get your rocks off , you could just pound away, or fap.

I get more of a kick from doing a good job. Especially when you get comments like "holly shit" or "You're a sex machine/sex god/whatever"

>>40899005
I know what you mean. It can be rough some times, imo, you don't get to the fun stuff till round 3+.

Ideally you find a girl who can take it. Or rotate through girls so they have time to recover. lol
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>>40898992
Yeah good dose, you getting anxious?
EQ can stir you up a bit
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>finish blast
>Only go gym 1 day in a week
lmao
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>>40899140
Very boring. If I want to get off I'd fuck a rando or fap (I don't fap, pussy is easy).

I love being admired. finding what makes a girl tick and taking time to explore that creates a really deep bond. I can't really enjoy sex that isn't passionate or emotional.
>>40899005
Take breaks from actual intercourse and enjoy taking time to tease or build up the release.
>>40898769
Bdsm clubs are 75% weird married couples that are bored. Generally not the best looking people. 20% are weird master and slaves that are generally some form of poly.

5% are hot as women. BYOH duh, bring your own ho.

I found these ladies of tinder and OKC. Generally speaking though, hot attracts hot.
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>>40899174
I havent started yet, it gets here in a week or two.
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>>40899236
>5% are hot as women
Sounds like it'd be better to just roll the dice with sloots and hope for matching kinks.
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>>40899526
Yeah but you don't go to these things to meet people. You might go to meet a third but it's prett frowned upon to go and expect to hook up. Generally you'd need an escort to vouch for you too.
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>>40899140
>comments like "holly shit" or "You're a sex machine/sex god/whatever"
Who cares. It doesn't matter to me. I guess that's what I get for being self-sufficient and confident. I don't need validation from others.

Sex is a one way ticket to orgasm and I don't care what my partner gets out of it.
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>>40899599
That's pretty lame duder.
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Is 200 Test-e E3D really that low? Since it averages out to be about ~450 a week, some guys on le reddit were telling me to go for 600-750.

I got 4 vials at [250mg/ml x 10ml] which I calculated would last me 16 weeks. If I up to 350 E3D that would mean buying 2 more vials.

unrelated -
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1uFVst0I6LD
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>>40894809
>>40899541
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>>40899635
KEK
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Anyone else on high Test get urges to just grab women when they see them?
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>>40899735
yeah but i am still too beta to talk to them even on tren
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How do you find other aesthetic gymbros. Like I'm gonna need some friends to go to festivals and raves so we can get many women at once.
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With the whole androgen receptor saturation thing, wouldn't the doses need to be fucking massive?
Boston lloyd was running 11g a week ffs
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>>40899956
does he look like he was running 11g of gear
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>>40899956
>>40899972
yeah, he does, but he also looks like shit and has the face and stature of a middle schooler
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>>40899986
>>40899972
>>40899956
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Hy i got some test E powder nd I cant afford vial and suff rly... so i got some dieas?

a) mix test and oil in beakr.. boil it and pind it

b) mix lot of benzyl alvohol and oil and test and pin it.. hope dont get nfect

c) get syring filter.. reuse.. pin frm shringe filter straithht into my quad

think i do the last? flow bsd.. so ill pin wih 18g.. no ptoblme.?
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>>40898531
>>40898380
Var should be very crystally like salt as whinny is more starchy like powdered surgar.
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>>40900127
trying too hard
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>>40900127
are you fucking high or just weak b8
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>>40900012
Thats insulin abuse my man
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>>40899599
You do you m8. There are plenty of girls that get off on being treated like cum dumps.

>>40899735
Yeah. Feel rapey all the time. even aroun 6/10s. lol

>>40899769
No idea. I don't have any real gym bros.
All my friends are fa/tg/guys.
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>>40898380
Are you running an oral only cycle?
Either run it with test, or if you're already running test lower you AI.
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I got a shit jaw line and want to use drugs to make it grow during my next blast. Is there any pep that you would recommend or should I just go with tren?
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>>40900154
>>40900164
Im srerious

Which one is lesst risk?

This isa harm reduction board
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>>40900217
>Abusing peps
>>40900012
>>40900012
>>40900012
>>40900012
>>40900012
>>40900012
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>>40894662
What's /frauds/ opinion on sub q test injections

I've shot peptides with insulin needles no problem, but IM injections scare the fuck outta me.
Will this work for test?
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>>40900289
fine (even recommended) for small amounts such as trt

don't bother if you're cycling/blasting
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>>40900289
I know it effects absorption rate, but I can't remember how off the top of my head.
>injections scare the fuck outta me.
Seriously nothing to worry about.
They're easier then subq if anything.
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>>40900185
I'm glad we agree on sex as a hobby.
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hey whats the worst thatll happen if i inject unfiltefed (;but pasteurized) test mix

i mean thsts metaphorical haha

but i mean what are the odds?
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>>40900367
Man all you have to do for sub q is pinch a tiny bit of skin and poke yourself with a small ass needle. The needles you use for IM are fucking massive and go deep into you
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>>40900367
>>40900289
IIRC subq gives significantly less absorbtion... I've heard conflicting reports. I would go IM
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>>40900379
you could begin typing like a retard

wait thats already happened
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>>40900222
mirin trips, disregarding rest
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>>40900367
>>40900451
it's not less absorption, it's just slower. makes blood levels more stable.

it's actually better than IM, it's just that you can't inject that much subq
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>>40900424
>fucking massive and go deep into you
:^)
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>>40900369
kek

>>40900424
It's seriously no bid deal, you only feel pain for when it punctures the skin. and 5/8" isn't that deep m8.

>>40900451
I don't think it absorbs less, just slower, since there's less blood flow through fat tissue.
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>>40896170
I just pinned quads for the first time yesterday. I pinned my left quad twice, for a total of .75 grams of gear, and I'm absolutely fine today...
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>>40898101
WHAT SHOULD I PUT IN THOSE 4 WEEKS REEEE
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>>40900660
rude

>>40900782
Dafuq is that graph?
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Pinned 300 mg of test c this afternoon.

How long does it take to kick in normally on TRT?
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>>40900804
Blood levels, lrn 2 juice
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>>40900806
How often are you injecting?
It stacks up and reachs peak level after like a month
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Currently experiencing difficult/labored breathing. Running
750test/600deca and 50adrol/50dbol

Got some singular but curious what the most likely culprit is
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>>40900985
Anadrol for sure, how often you doimg cardio
go get a blood test
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>>40900985
Your swollen organs pushing up against your lungs. Or it's just anxiety.
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Ay druggies,

I come in 3 minutes the first time.
What can I take/do?
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>>40900985
Probably putting water on too fast, it's happened to me before.
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>>40901251
pop some cialis. you will still cum but you won't give a damn
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How can I achieve this
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hey so if i mix test powder, oil, benxyl alcohol and boil it, then inject it, is thwt a risk? will the test be destroyed? thank
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>>40901318
> possess Microdick
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>>40901251
>I come in 3 minutes the first time.
>What can I take/do?

If I have to pee it takes longer
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>>40901335

>What is google
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>>40901000
Do cardio at least three times a week, usually more.
Blood pressure is within range.

>>40901291
I did jump up ten pounds quick af
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What is the simplest way to exchange $$$$ to bitcoin make a purchase?
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>>40901519
Localbitcoins is a bitch. But the fastest.

I use coinbase.
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>>40901251
>first time.
Just keep going/fooling around until round 2.
>>40901318
When any of us get there, we'll tell you. lol
>>40901519
Most online coin wallets will let you transfer money from your bank, there's a multiple day wait though.
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>>40901603
>When any of us get there
speak for yourself faggot

jk I'm small and fat
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>>40901445
no relevat results and you knownit
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>tfw the town's mayor and two mayoral candidates are having a debate 100ft from me.
>Still shitposting on 4chan.
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>>40900868
It's going to be e3.5d at 200 MG. The doc wanted to frontload it, so he gave me 300 MG to start with.
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>>40902035
Do it faggot
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So what to do with 100g of M-DHT. Both it and Winstrol give me acne and I can't stop it with Nolvadex or an increase in A.I; But I'm going to keep trying for a week.

It might be Anadrol, since I'm using that at 100mg for the first time but 15mg of Nolvadex should null any acne side effects from that.
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>>40902450
Tell me why you think nolva would help with e2 mediated acne.
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>get TRT script
>buy extra test online
>run a cycle legally
>have a prescription in case I need to travel or drug test etc

rate
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>>40902472
Nolvadex prevents Estro effects from non-aromatizing drugs such as Anadrol. 10mg helps with water retention and is a preventive measure for Gyno.
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>>40902937
Solid plan.
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So i just started my first cycle yesterday. A good buddy of mine who is a trainer at my local gym says 1cc a week is fine and has been doing test ect for 25+ years.

My buddy who I bought the gear from said since its my first cycle I should do 1cc twice a week....need some thoughts.
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>>40901487
Drop the orals for 3-4 days so you can piss some out, then bring back the drol and half the dbol at most.
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>>40903685
This sounds like a good idea or maybe pick up some dandelion root or whatever the natural diuretic is. Oor go the Piana route and dose lasix 50mg ED. Literally dry to the bone
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Is MK 677 worth buying or total horse shit?
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Do you people notice that underage girls don't like muscles, but right when they turn 18/19/20, they're dating basically the most /fit/ guy they can bargain for given their looks?

Part of the reason I was behind on my fitness goals is because in middle school and high school, being scrawny was attractive. I didn't think I needed to get bigger because the girls around me liked the way I looked. When I got into the real world I instantly saw a huge difference. What is it about 16 year olds that they don't like muscles?
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>>40902995
Lmao no it prevents binding at the chest receptor site. It's not an ai.
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>>40903882
>dose lasix

Not if you like your liver even remotely.
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>>40903923
Are you fucking retarded? He didn't say it was an AI.
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>>40903966
Is that a rhetorical question?

It's bimbo
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Need some dosing help.
Looks like I might need to use letro as an AI for a while, can't get my hands on asin or adex.

I aromatise pretty hard and am using 12.5mg/ED asin.

I'm thinking 0.625 (quarter tab) of letro ed/eod. Thoughts?
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>>40904158
How can you not get them
Where do you live
Pretty sure Reddit has everywhere covered at this point
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>>40904158
Also 1/8 tab eod to e3d was what me galenika and a few others settled on
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>>40904166
Aus.
Few out of stock, few MIA.

How'd you manage to get the little fuckers into 1/8ths
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>>40904166

>Pretty sure Reddit has everywhere covered at this point

Except Canada.
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>>40903966
He's using a serm to prevent acne; that's not a thing. He insinuated he's using a serm in place of an ai.
>>40903996
Yet I'm still better than you.
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Is it normal to get euphoria from pinning test?
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>>40904217
>>40904224

Split into quarters then bite in half
Really inexact science lol

Yeah you lads are both fucked
I know there's at least one Aus source on there and a couple Canuck, no?
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>>40904393
It's pretty good pickings for Aus atm. At least 3 good ones for oils and orals. No AI though rofl
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I have a really newbie question.

I'm about to start my first cycle of just 300mg Test E E3D, and I'm wondering, since my vials are going to be 250mg/mL,I'll be doing 1.2mL injections each time right? I've read the leddit wiki multiple times and maybe I'm just blind but I don't see it stated anywhere. I'm also gonna take Aromadose as an AI, and Nolva as my PCT. Anyone ever tried that combo or have an recs?
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>>40904475
its basic math

1.2 * 250 is 300 yes

realize that 300mg E3D is 600mg a week which is actually a big boy dose, you dont seem to understand that.
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>>40904475
Just do 500 then.
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>>40904527
300 E3.5D is 600.
E3D is 700mg/week
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>>40904475
>aromadose
lmao

yes it's 1.2ml
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>>40904527

Should I scale it back to 250mg? Most beginner cycles seem to recommend 250-300
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>>40904534
This. Fuck trying to draw 1.2ml

250 e3d is 583.3 a week.
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>>40904534
You're talking 250mg twice a week instead right?
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>>40904700
Of course.
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>>40904577
1cc on Monday 1cc on Thursday. 500mg a week. Boom
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Any aussies heard from sd lately?
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> almost six weeks into test cycle
where is this crazy horniness i heard about?
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>>40896577
>>40896760

And even though there is free healthcare (not really free, paid for by taxes) in UK, telling your doctor you have ever abused any drug, be it AAS, recreational drugs, alcohol even tobacco, you will find life insurance much harder to come by and it will cost far more.
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>>40905086
Wait until 2 months faggot
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>>40905086
Sorry son, ya got meme'd
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>>40895018
straight up just hold up for a few days. It's going to be painful, you're going to wonder if you did something wrong, but you're fine.
>>
Wouldn't using an AI on a low cruise of test cause someone to grow taller rather than close their growth plates, since very little aromatization would occur?
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>>40905303
Test also closes plates, although not as much as estrogen.
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Be honest guys, am I aesthetically fucked, fucking nipples? I always see it as a huge issue but what so you think? Guess I'm bypassing a fear of my own body with this post

Also hi

Week 3 of 600mg Test E weekly
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>>40905520
Adopting trip for shits
>>
Friendly reminder that Tren is life, Tren is love
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>>40905520
What the fuck. Maybe do 800/800 test deca without an ai and get some nipple tattoos.
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>>40905086
add tren

>>40905622
also this
>>
After how long should I see or feel effects of testosteron enanthate?

I'm on 500mg test e since 2 weeks and there is literally no difference.... Lifts are the same, body looks the same..

Should I up the dose?
Did I got scammed?
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>>40905633

Is it that bad though...its just no areola

Deca, why so much? Might just go dbol kickstart next run my friend.
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guys my old gymbros girl is trying to fuck me

me and him barley talk, its been like 2 years since they seperated

they were together for like 3 years?

Feel bad for my bro but she is hot and my dick feels like it is on fire what do?
20 day snap streak
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>>40905751
Do it. Its been a long time since your bro had her.
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>>40905844
yeah man its actually my birthday weekend and I want a new pussy
I'm just worried that she will tell her friends (she will) and it will make it back to my old bff and ruin the friends.
a good bro is more important than a pussy that has a 30% chance of being ugly and 20% of smelling bad
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>>40905857

Source for those numbers?
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>>40905888
i did a self study
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Am I placeboing myself if 2 days after my first ever pin of test e and eq that all my lifts are shooting up like crazy
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>>40905857
do all slampigs have the stinkiest snatches? I spun one around and was actually dazed from the stench
>>
Should I stay up 24 hours before my testosterone lab so I test lower than normal so doc gives me TRT? I'm borderline
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>>40905857
you could always be a bitch and run it by the gymbro first
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>>40902937

me too senpai

base TRT is subsidised by tax payers and i pay for my own for extra, wew
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>>40906496

Yes. You always had it in you but now that you are taking gear you are unlocking the potential in you because you believe in the gains. OFC the gear will make the difference but not in few das
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I think tren has made me gay. Was watching men figure skating and those twinks made me hard as a fucking diamond. Already got 2 sons so should I just go full homosexual mode?
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>>40906568
Time to placebo myself into a 3pl8 ohp
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>>40906673
>have 2 sons
>should I go homo
... not with them, please. otherwise, yes.
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>>40906700
Yeah I meant that i don't have to reproduce anymore so going homo should be no problem at all.
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>>40906673
>mfw when your kids realize their dad is a faggot
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>tfw scared of needles to the point where I was sweating and got an elevated heart rate while getting hepatitis vaccine for a trip
I-I'm simply to intelligent too roid
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>>40906761
It's the tren bro
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>>40906707
well, no h8 for the homos, if you feel the need to go nuts my nigga.

be aware that it's mostly the tren though. going out of your way to come out and fuck twinks, then realizing it was just a spur of the moment thing when you come off the tren is kinda awkward. just never stop the tren again, and fuck twinks until your untimely early death.
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>>40906542

jus too awkward, cant see it being a good convo. He might actually not give a fuck at all and be hyped for eskimo bros (i would be) but if he takes offence like ewewewewewewew

>>40906514

Its really strange a lot of pussies have a musty smell to them. Hottest girl I fucked was a solid 9 and while the smell isnt "bad" its certainly there.

So many whiteknights get triggered by this but its true girls are just as gross as us dudes
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>>40906835
>jus too awkward, cant see it being a good convo. He might actually not give a fuck at all and be hyped for eskimo bros (i would be) but if he takes offence like ewewewewewewew
stop beig a faggot and tell him, then you can tell him to stop being a bitch about a pussy he left years ago.
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>>40905662

bump
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>>40906848

"hey bro gonna fuck ur ex dont be a bitch lol im so alpha going for the easy revenge fucks"
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>>40905662
arbitrary stretch of time for the placebo, 4+ weeks for actual effects (and it's still not gonna happen overnight if you weren't critically low test before)
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>>40906865
No, the friendship was supposedly valued over the vergerge so a simple 'Yo I might be seeing your ex, you cool with that?' or something to that effect
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>>40906865
'am going to tongue punch your exes fart box, im gonna mudd fuck her stink hole....you want in?'
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Eating pussy is pathetic and for beta males

PSA
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>>40906914
ok
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>>40906914
I'll eat a bitches pussy and her ass

now back to your camel, mohammad
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>>40907048
>>40907048
>>40907048
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