Have any MALE /fitizens/ ever been sexually harassed at work before?
>fugly short girl at work
>she's mirin me hard every day even though I'm in DYEL mode
>she makes advances
>I nicely tell her I'm not interested
>still be friends with her, because I'm not a piece of shit
>she keeps telling me how attractive I am
>she legit told me I should send her nudes (as a joke haha)
If I was a fucking woman, this would be an office scandal. But I'm not.
Anyone else experience anything similar?
>in CNA class
>I get volunteered into being mannequin since I'm tall (6'0 lmao)
>teacher holds me for a while and tells me I'm very solid and big
>she can't look me in the eye anymore and stutters
Either she's embarrassed or likes me
Yeah, all the time. I really should file an HR complaint but whatever
Work in IT by the by
>Finance lady calls out to me from her office as I walk by
>"Anon! Could you come in here? I'm having some trouble with X"
>"Oh sure, be right there"
>"YEAH GET IN HERE ITS COUGAR TIME BABY"
>Bunch of Dr. Who loving old bats all love me at work
>Always calling me shit like "their boyfriend"
>"Oooooh your so cute, you don't have a girlfriend anymore right"
>There's a bar at work and somehow I've been designated as music picker there
>Literally multiple times have gotten thirsty ass emails "Had to compliment your picks :)"
>It's obviously fucking Spotify Radio
>There's a night where a bunch of us go to a bar for a going away party
>Two girls there (more than that but two relevant) one receptionist and one chubby creative
>Have heard people tell me that chubby creative is into me (and apparently makes a point of telling people, probably hoping it gets back to me) but IDGAF
>Ask receptionist if she wants to sneak out to smoke a J and we go
>From there, we head our separate ways
>Next day, rumor is flying everywhere that receptionist and I slept together after the party (Please, I never shit where I work)
>Thought about confronting chubby since she was the only other person to see us go, but she quits like that week
I know I've got more in teh tank too, but the point is bitches be nuts
Jesus man. I'm always baffled by how offices are supposed to be this bastion of civilization and adult maturity, but 9/10 it's filled with pervy, fat, stupid, and lazy people.
Those women need to get a grip
Grill here, please DO open an HR case. I've been harrassed and assaulted several times and I can't stand seeing someone else having the same things done to them. These fucking losers should have a punishment for disrupting your fucking life and well-being.
I'm the guy with the long post, I've thought about it but honestly the only possible reason for me to do so would be petty revenge as honestly no harm was meant by anyone.
If anyone ever got forcibly physical with me of course I would, but really awkward flirting is just embarrassing for them, doesn't change my day.
i got one
>be at grocery store
>grabbing one of those 99 cent gallon jugs of water
>some fat bitch on a mart kart says something like "you can grab these jugs handsome!"
>look at her like shes retarded
>she says she was joking
i was more flattered than anything though
>work part time at walmart
it was during highschool dont judge me ;_;
>get interviewed for stocking job (working moving boxes in the back)
>interviewer says I'm very social and customer friendly
>I was just being polite and spoke the least amount of words
>get job but they want me in the front as cashier
>fat latina cashier who was suppose to mentor always subtly touching me
>asks me if I'm on the swim team because v taper lats
>passively asks about my free time to ask me out to movies
>tell her i dont like movies. lol
>invites me to a party
>tell her i have autism and social environments scare me
>comes up behind me while im scanning customers' items and rubs my back
>dyke working the sales floor asks me if i have a boyfriend or gf
>ask her why she's asking
>she responds "some of the sales floor guys think your cute. dafuq
>older black cashier lady hits on me and later
apologizes because shes afraid of sexual harassment.
moral of the story. dont work at walmart
Me again, thought of some more
>Few years back when I first started working at this company
>Depressed at the time and gaining weight
>Really fat black (dunno why but I feel like that's relevant) girl comes up to me
>"Mmmm anon have you been putting on weight? Got some curves now, about the same size as me. Looking goooood"
>I may be fat, but I am a third of this lady's weight
>Literally what convinced me to start lifting
>New receptionist at work
>She's cool and all, but not really interesting enough to talk with beyond the usual "Hi" "Good Morning" whatever
>She digs me tho
>I have a drawer full of drawing, printouts, sticky notes saying hi, and all kinds of weird crap this girl has dropped off at my desk
>I literally just sweep it all into a drawer without looking, quit cluttering up my shit
>Some creative girl has a crush on me
>She's pretty funny tho (Or if I'm being dead honest she's funny to make fun of and for some reason she never stops me from doing this, yes I know I can be a piece of shit) so I swing by her desk every now and again
>At one point she invites me out to dinner with her and some of her friends for her birthday dinner
>Weird whim comes over me and I agree
>Get there, immediately she starts presenting me as though I'm her boyfriend
>Nuh uh bitch
>Basically just do my usual making fun of her routine because I want to establish we are deffo not dating
>Honestly I got pretty drunk so don't recall exactly what I said, but I get the gist I ruined her birthday
Ok, I feel pretty bad about this one but
>Next day she's asking how we can fix it as if I didn't just rip into her for hours on her birthday.
It's hard out here being attractive.
JK I literally have no idea why I get so much attention. I always rank 5-6 on rate me threads and while I deffo can be funny I'm usually being autistic and not talking to people. My best guess is that this gets misinterpreted as being "Mysterious" or sum shit cuz I really dunno.
jeezus that sounds horrific
that sounds weird as fuck m8. It's odd this girl is so into you, and she doesn't care you make fun of her.
I have something similar. This girl I work with tells me a whole bunch of shit about her love life I NEVER asked for. Then when I'm like "wat" she gets all super pissed and fucking emotional over NOTHING.
Then the next day she tells me she loves me blah blah
A lot of girls see taking the piss out of them as you being super confident and that turns them on. I managed to date a girl purely on the back of my ability to make her laugh at herself, some of them are crazy I swear
>work for contractor for government
>moms friend got me the job
>shes in a super high up position making ~$150k
>im in decent shape, shes 240 lbs fugly
>comes by and compliments me all the time
>occasionally puts her hand on my shoulder
>im gonna be out the next week for a surgery
>tells me to give her my address so she can visit
>really dont want to
>made mom promise she wouldnt give it to her either
>coworkers all give me shit about
>"dont worry anon, shes gonna take care of you"
Literally the greatest mystery of my life is "why are all these girls so into me". I know this sounds like some weird internet brag but it's really not, cuz it's never girls I would be interested in sleeping with or dating anyway. It gets really really aggravating if too many of them happen in a week.
It makes no logical sense. BUT THATS WIMMIN EH
Guys have nothing to gain from coming forward with this stuff. It won't be taken seriously at best and at worst he'll be fired for being a troublemaker in the eyes of his employer.
No, two at the same time. A girl I was fucking at the time handcuffed me and left the room and came back with her roommate
Roommate was 5/10 butterface and she had a popsicle and was rubbing it all over me. Started rubbing it on my dick and it fucking sucked. Did not want.
She started sucking my dick with the ice cold bullshit in her mouth and then other chick sat on my face and I almost suffocated.
Ugly girl jumped on ma dick and the other chick turned around so her brown eye was in my actual eye... still couldnt breath well
>mfw almost death by snoo snoo
well, that sounds odd. like these girls were trying to be sexy, but completely oblivious how to.
>dick sucking but not wanting to
that's actually how I lost my virginity. I was wasted with a friend, and I blacked out to her sucking my dick. I went with it because I wanted to lose my virginity, but I don't remember agreeing to any of it :/
>Work in a very high end small inbound call center for a managed care organization.
>all cutie females, manager and director are male, and im male
>dyel tight slacks+oxford shirt mode
>most of the cuties are married
>mirin me hard all the time
>get free gifts and preferential treatment from coworkers
>director and manager jel
>qt next to me shows me unsolicited nudies on her phone
>"have you ever seen boobs like this anon"
>"ive seen a few in my day."
>was making 22/hr. Still quit because it was hella awk. Ended up working at a warehouse for 9/hr after that
I don't even know what the right response would be to that situation. Don't want to ruin someone's birthday but there's no way in hell you can give anyone the impression you're dating. I'm gonna go with she deserved to have a ruined birthday for putting you in that situation. Who even does that.
Yeah, I could have been more tactful but at the same time I was LIVID. Did you invite me out just so I could play fake boyfriend in front of your friends? I was willing to cut off our relationship there, just turned out that would take more juice than I thought.
you were raped. Dude, this is rape. You didnt say yes, Men have gone to prison for doing exactly what you just described.
Okay. What is rape? Unwanted sex. Plain and simple. If she had asked me to fugg her completely sober, I probably would not have. We were both drinking. I blacked out. I WOKE UP to her sucking my dick. I SERIOUSLY do not recall telling her this was okay.
I'm not being a bitch about this, what's done is done and can't be taken back. But by text book definitions, my story, and the other guys story, are technically rape. Just because it wasn't forceful, doesn't mean it was wanted.
you literally said
>I went with it because I wanted to lose my virginity
That is consensual by every jurisdictional definition in the united states. maybe not in california colleges (affirmative yes, etc.), but in every court of law in the usa it is consensual.
>IT constant at some shit hospital
>have to instruct some 40-50 year old fat secretaries on new system
>tell one I am going to get a banana before the meeting because I am hungry
>loudly says "what, you want to give me your banana? XD"
>all the whales in the room laugh loudly
>visibly pouring spaghetti
>laugh awkwardly and keep head down
>never got the banana
whatever dude. "going along with it" is not the same as being whole heatedly into it. Also, you have my truthful feeling to play off of, if I was a woman and told this story, but skipped the part on how I felt, it would be an open and shut rape case. I'm truly not searching for sympathy, there is none needed. All I'm saying is it's not as black and white as you put it.
Why are middle aged whales so thirsty? They think it's cute or some shit.
>not the same as being whole heatedly into it
you dont have to be in order for it to be consensual. literally every factual statement you have made so far indicates that you were not raped.
>if I was a woman and told this story
you would get shut down by the cops also. no self-respecting state's attorney would pick this case up. literally no evidence. your own testimony, the alleged "victim," indicates that you have consented. regret is not equal to nonconsent.
and this isn't a "whatever dude" situtation. telling people that you were raped when you actually weren't raped is pretty fucked up.
You are putting words into my mouth.
I never said "I was raped help me help me" I was simply saying my experience was equal to rape in accordance with other rape cases.
There have been cases where woman have literally said they were too drunk to decide properly, and it was voted in their favor.
Does this make them right? No. But it still happened. I would never imagine pressing charges or any of that bullshit.
But at the end of the day the story goes: she initiated, I didn't know if I wanted.
I am a very submissive person, that coupled with alcohol made me extremely suggestive and I went along with what she did.
There was no force involved whatsoever, but I never told her it was okay to start giving me head, she just did.
This comes down to a philosophical argument in my mind. Does it count as wanted if I drunkenly rationalized it as being okay?
I do not know any law, and I'm aware that drunk people are usually held accountable for the actions.
I will say it again, If I was a woman this would be considered a case of rape. I'm no fucking SJW, I'm just trying to tell you I didn't verbally consent to any of it.
also, take a look at this, page 5
"Third, sexual assault can occur when the victim was
too intoxicated to consent."
I was quite literally black out drunk. does that seem "too drunk" to you? My rationalization of everything after is in a way a coping mechanism. I didn't want it to go down like that.
ONCE AGAIN, I am fine with it happening.
BUT BY TEXT BOOK DEFINITION, it may qualify as rape.
>You are putting words into my mouth.
every single greentext quote was literally taken from your posts
>There have been cases where woman have literally said they were too drunk to decide properly, and it was voted in their favor.
this is not your case. in your case you were able to make a choice such that you were just "going along with it" (again, your own words), indicating that you were able to consent. you even had a motivation to consent - you "wanted to lose your virginity (again, your own words).
>I am a very submissive person
>made me extremely suggestive and I went along with what she did.
meaning that you consented
>There was no force involved whatsoever
yet another fact suggesting no rape occurred
>but I never told her it was okay to start giving me head, she just did.
irrelevant. she doesn't need affirmative consent from you
>This comes down to a philosophical argument in my mind
>I do not know any law
> I'm aware that drunk people are usually held accountable for the actions.
>I will say it again, If I was a woman this would be considered a case of rape.
no you wouldn't. you literally just said that you dont know the law
>I'm just trying to tell you I didn't verbally consent to any of it.
that it not the law in any jurisdiction.
i would have a field day with you if you went up on the stand.
Wut. Not him but I am an engineer as well. Can confirm, almost zero women. It's not a bad thing, work is not where I want to meet chicks. Work is for doing fucking work. Don't date coworkers.
>>but I never told her it was okay to start giving me head, she just did.
>irrelevant. she doesn't need affirmative consent from you
How is this irrelevant? This is literally a sexual act I did not consent to.
>would have a field day with you if you went up on the stand.
ONCE AGAIN. I would never ever bring such a case to court to begin with, as I do not care enough to do anything about it.
Also, from your Law example : "If a person is deceived into consent, then it is not consent and a person can bring a claim. De May v. Roberts. This works for saying that you’re clean (sexually)."
I may have been deceived, I was black out drunk
Apparently the law doesn't care about men's feelings, but it does women's
Just because I am anonymous on an online forum telling you my truthful feelings, doesn't mean you can ignore the actual situation. How would you know I was "fine" with this if I ACTUALLY brought it to court.
I don't care about the rest of his posts, I'm specifically arguing your last one. Maybe in this case you're right that it wasn't rape. I'm just saying that giving consent and being fine with something are not equivalent. I could wake up drunk and confused to a girl sucking my dick and pass out again before I have time to make heads of tails of it. Then wake up and think "that was okay I guess". At no point in the exchange was consent given on my part. Again, I don't care what this means to the specific rape case being discussed.
it is irrelevant because whether you said she was allowed to does not factor in. you do not need verbal statements for the act to be consensual.
demay v. roberts is inapplicable here. it involves consent from a battery persepctive in a civil lawsuit during delivery of a child. google is not your friend when it comes to the law.
>I may have been deceived
deception is inapplicable here. there was no trickery.
Thank you bro. This is what I am trying to argue. In his law example he states it says: "If a person’s actions give consent, then it is consent."
But it says nothing about the influence of Alcohol.
>How would you know I was "fine" with this if I ACTUALLY brought it to court.
because you just stated that you were fine with it in your posts. i would introduce those posts into evidence. think of the posts as a deposition. if someone said what you said in a deposition, then i would use it and butcher him/her on the stand.
you can change the facts of your stupid experience by saying that you were not "fine" with it, but that would completely change your situation.
you are making it that straightforward you you say that you "went with it"
i agree. that by itself is not enough to swing the ball either way. that coupled with the other facts makes any pursuit in court frivolous and possibly sanctionable.
Why are you being so goddamn literal? Let's assume I actually wanted to bring this to court when it happened. I am not so stupid as to shitpost my story declaring the opposite of what I am trying to prove, on an Eskimo whale blubber crafting board.
Jokes aside, that was a dumb baseless counterpoint.
you are talking about "facts" when the shit I say on here would NEVER be taken into account in this hypothesized rape trial. This conversation would never take place, because I wouldn't do it.
You could only get fired if you work in some shit non-freedomland country. If you got fired after filing a sexual harassment complaint you would have lawyers lining up to take your case. However, I do agree that guys really shouldn't make a big deal out of it unless its something serious, complaining about being flirted with makes you look like a total bitch
>how do you know? you were not there.
nothing in your "facts" indicate that you were deceived.
>Obrien v. Cunnard
obrien v. cunnard is inappliacable here. it is a civil case involving battery wherein a person was vaccinated. it has nothing to do with sexual assault or rape while drunk.
regardless - deception is not an element of rape, so you need to get off that subject. you will find no analogous case law re. deception.
>19 years old Dishwasher whenever I was 19
>working part-time at some self-serve frozen yogurt place when they were popular
>manager is 18
>7/10 but probably 8/10 if she were Catholic or had goals
She started off just saying how she liked my butt, asked if I did squats (was DYEL at this point).
She started slapping my butt about a month after she got hired. I just smiled about it. Mostly because I didn't care, but also I felt kind of flattered.
Two months before she got fired, she started to grope it. It was really weird, especially when I would wash dishes at the front sink.
She was not fired for her sexual misconduct. I think she had a fight with the store owner over cheesecake bites or something.
if you are sugesting that you want to change up the facts, be my guest - you could easily make a rape allegation by making up facts.
but based on the actual facts you have given me, you were not raped.
I got that example from the source you cited, and seeing as how I can't drive to the library and cite sources, I am going off of whatever the google engine brings up when I include their book + rape.
THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE, AND HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE IS:
You have been incriminating me by the truthful statement I am telling you on this internet forum right now. If I actually had brought this to court you would have NONE OF THIS to base a testimony against me off of.
DoJ defines rape as "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."
You didn't get raped. At worst it was sexual assault.
However, as >>35962971 said you clearly state that you went with it and therefore consented.
> If I actually had brought this to court you would have NONE OF THIS to base a testimony against me off of.
absolutely. but if you tstified truthfully that you "went with it" in order to "lose your virginity" and you were "fine with it" afterwards it is not rape regardless of gender or level of intoxication.
also funny side note: you would be surprised as to what people say in depositions and on the stand. remember that we lawyers are professionalthat get people to break down and tell the truth through proper use of questioning and thorough investigations.
Good! We are making some progress here! You admit that my statements aside, this could be considered a case of sexual misconduct.
And stop fucking using what I have said here as evidence against me. I've said it too many times, If I actually had a problem with this, I would never say those things.
The only thing I am trying to prove here is: this MAY be considered rape if it happened to the opposite sex in a different way. PERIOD.
WHY IS PENETRATION SUCH A FACTOR?
A man can get erect without wanting to, this is proven.
Saying otherwise is just as dumb as saying a women will not get pregnant if she doesn't want to from rape.
I am a solicitor but the US isn't my jurisdiction.
Here in Australia under recent legislation if OP hadn't consented it would have been rape on the girls part.
I find it hard to believe that if the OP had actually not consented to the BJ the girl wouldn't be criminally liable for something.
>Good! We are making some progress here! You admit that my statements aside, this could be considered a case of sexual misconduct.
that wasn't me. that was another person that doesn't know what they are talking about.
sexual misconduct is not a real thing.
>And stop fucking using what I have said here as evidence against me.
> I've said it too many times, If I actually had a problem with this, I would never say those things.
if you would never say those things it would change the facts.
>The only thing I am trying to prove here is: this MAY be considered rape if it happened to the opposite sex in a different way
IN A DIFFERENT WAY completely changes the scenario.
you're basically saying: i wasn't raped but it would be rape if i make up facts that make it rape.
no shit. a person with a double digit IQ can figure that out. that isnt some intellecutla breakthrough.
In order to be guilty of committing a crime you need to satisfy a number of elements.
In the case of rape the law holds that sexual penetration is one of the physical elements that must have occurred in order for a crime to be committed.
hey solicitor! but you, as i know (i am a licensed US attorney), that consent is based on the facts. a quick review of the facts:
- got drunk
- girl sucked his dick
- "went with it" because he "wanted to lose his virginity"
- "was fine with it" after it happened
- did not say "please suck my dick"
based on these facts, it was consensual in the usa. given that you are also common law, it is probably consensual there too. especially without their consent must be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt.
>And stop fucking using what I have said here as evidence against me.
I am telling you to stop trying to say it wouldn't be considered rape based on the things I am saying here. Hypothetically speaking this conversation would NEVER take place if I was upset enough to bring it to trial.
> you're basically saying: i wasn't raped but it would be rape if i make up facts that make it rape.
No. What I am saying is, if I were a woman, and I woke up to being fucked, or getting cunnilingus, and I didn't consent, this MAY be considered rape by the courts.
It's not. These fags don't know what they're talking about/are from some backwards shithole country/are b8rs.
Yes, you were raped. Consent can only be given by someone who is committed to an act of their own free will, and not under the influence of any drugs or alcohol. Additionally, you cannot be threatened or coerced into consent.
Think of it as if you were being interrogated by the police and they were trying to get you to confess. If you confess, but are drunk, it's inadmissible because you cannot consent.
Now were your raped in the archaic US DoJ sense? No.
Are the police going to do anything about it if you bring it to their attention? No.
And I'm not sure what the hell >>35963808 is saying about it being consensual. It wasn't. Consent is consent is consent. You can't enlist in the military when you're blitzed out of your mind because you need CONSENT. Same reason you can't enlist when you're 14.
Dw mayne, this is just what happens when you leave your early twenties and enter the real world. I'm a six on a good day, ottermode, and at every single workplace there's been multiple women with obvious and awkward attraction. Worst was the fifty something receptionist who everyone hated, she was sickeningly sweet to me, but a complete bitch to everyone else. One day made the mistake of wearing shorts to work, fucking hell the comments one woman made about my thighs were so far past the border between banter and harassment. Would have though, I should hit her up.
The most awkward was when I was coaching a women's hockey team, every single year there was more than one with a crush. Got texts at midnight, and was hit on constantly. One girl in particular was very forward and it made it almost impossible to maintain integrity.
Don't get me wrong, I like the attention sometimes, but ffs this shit gets out of hand. And most of the time I just want to be left alone. This is how I know it's only the most fucking sad, lonely robotic autists that make threads about how attractive people have it so easy.
I agree with you.
He clearly consented. I was merely curious what the girl would have been charged with in America if he clearly had not consented. As I said, in Australia she would be criminally liable for rape.
In Victoria (the state I practise in) the law regarding consent is no longer based on the common law but has been codified into the Crimes Act 1958 (Vic).
Per S34C (2) (e) and (k) the prosecution could make a week case that there was no consent. However, if on cross examination he admited he "went along with it to lose his virginity" the case would collapse there.
>Consent can only be given by someone who is committed to an act of their own free will, and not under the influence of any drugs or alcohol. Additionally, you cannot be threatened or coerced into consent.
that is not the law. no jurisdiction follows that. did you go to john marshall or something?
>Think of it as if you were being interrogated by the police and they were trying to get you to confess. If you confess, but are drunk, it's inadmissible because you cannot consent.
confessions whie drunk are not legally analogous to consent to sexual intercourse.
> You can't enlist in the military when you're blitzed out of your mind because you need CONSENT
now you are relying on censent in contractual law. again that is not the standard for analyzing consent in a crimonal case.
>these "FACTS" are based off the testimonial I have given here
you're absolutely right. and they are powerful evidence against you
> I would not bring it to court if I was "fine with it"
you wouldn't be able to anyways
he's wrong too. he went to a bad school, has not finished school, or just doesn't know the law.
then you are lying and that changes everything. raped is based entirely on the facts. your "testimony" or whatever you want to call it does not pass muster as a matter of law. it wouldnt even go to the jury.
Are you completely incapable of thinking in the hypothetical?
You are so swayed by what I have said that it appears you can not fathom what I am trying to prove. If I was a woman, and I told you those circumstances that happened to me without explaining, it would make for a rape trial.
As a man, I am not saying I was raped. I am only trying to prove my first, only, and original point that it COULD BE SEEN AS RAPE IN THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES.
>COULD BE SEEN AS RAPE IN THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES.
the "circumstances" change everything. you can change the facts in your head all you want to create an outcome you want. but the actual outcome, what actually happened to you, does not constitute rape in the united states of america.
I'm not going to spend my time arguing with (who I assume is) a lawyer.
From my point of view and knowledge of the law, he could not consent; therefore, he was raped.
From my department's SOP point of view, and apparently your district attorney for Smallsville County point of view, he was not raped.
Which I already had said.
Doesn't change the fact that if he came through the doors at my station at I'd show him pamphlets and support groups in the area as I would a by-the-book rape victim.
Okay captain literal. I concede. Clearly you are not able to grasp the concept I am trying to present to you.
she probably would not be charged. charges for perjury or false alleations typically require KNOWINGLY makign false allegations
the kid here did not knowingly make a false allegation. something happened that made the boy feel uncomfortable. it just didnt amount to rape or nonconsensual intercourse.
btw i love aussie lawyers. you guys have made my firm a lot of money through referrals via QBE insruance and Qantas airways.
>From my point of view and knowledge of the law, he could not consent; therefore, he was raped.
your knowledge of the law is poor, then. do you actually practice law? is your school even accredited? did you even go to law school? because you have aptly demonstrated that you have no idea what you are talking about.
i do grasp it. i just want to make sure you understand that you were not raped. and being literal is essential to good lawyering. be entertain facts, not fantasies.
>Thank you for understanding what US law bro cannot grasp.
he's not very intelligent just like you. dont EVER try to tell a lawyer the law. both of you are wrong. you would get laughed out of court.
Oh I understand it. But as I said, it was never my original point. In this day and age where a woman can give consent and then take it away, and a man can get in trouble, I am trying to make the case that; if people in positions of power are willing to accept such cases, then a case of the same events should be considered equally valid.
And I never gave verbal consent, and I assert that my "body language" consent is bullshit and outdated.
Oh really? What do you normally practice in?
I do mostly insolvency work myself.
Also, do many of your colleagues lift? I'm the only one at my firm that does. Everyone else either cycles or runs.
well now to say neither of us are intelligent is very much an insult sir. It takes intelligence to argue a point and provide valid sources, all while maintaining a coherent argument
At this point I think you are just trying to have a big dick contest, and I for one am insulted.
>Oh I understand it.
no you don't. your analysis of the law above is embarassing. you don't even get actual law right, let alone an effective application of the law.
>In this day and age where a woman can give consent and then take it away, and a man can get in trouble.
yes you can withdraw consent, im following...
>I am trying to make the case that; if people in positions of power are willing to accept such cases, then a case of the same events should be considered equally valid.
they are not valid nor should they be valid. feeling icky and regretting sex like the little pussy that has been posting here is not rape regardless of gender.
It's clear that all the pretend lawyers in here saying the drunk guy automatically consented because he went with it are just 1L's who took Crim last semester or this semester.
Any lawyer would go to Lexis/WL and show that a drunk person may not always be able to provide satisfactory consent for sexual contact.
This is a state by state determination.
Literally the first case on Lexis, and its from fucking KANSAS of all places. Not exactly a progressive liberal nanny state like California.
269 Kan. 10
I seriously hope you guys are just law students and not real lawyers. Because your rushing to judgment is not only poor practice, but it's also spreading false statements of ABSOLUTE FACT. Don't do this.
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And can you two shut the fuck up, your rape story wasn't on-topic in the first place.
Yeah a tranny I work with told me she wants to suck my dick so I told her to fuck off. We don't work the same shift anymore but every time I see her she's always calling me handsome and shit. She's really close to the boss so I can't really do much so I just ignore her.
Yeah I know, >she
>What do you normally practice in?
aviation and products liability. mostly defense side.
>I do mostly insolvency work myself.
good money to be made there. one of my buddies does that. pulled in a six figure bonus last year.
>Also, do many of your colleagues lift? I'm the only one at my firm that does. Everyone else either cycles or runs.
most of the young guys and girls lift. it fades away as people marry and have kids. then it's running.
>start new temp job
>practicing my eye contact more to get more confident
>short fat mexican chick always staring at me
>keep practicing eye contact
>A week or two later she wanders over and starts talking to the girl i work with
>she always sneezes like 5 times in a row and i make fun of her
>she starts messaging me on the work messenger and i tell her shes weird and creepy , like not even in a flirty way.
>she starts telling me she has dreams about me at night and she shouldn't write what happens on the messenger
>keep telling her shes weird and creepy
>keeps trying to flirt with me over the messenger
>one day she doesn't show up , she got a new temp job and i sort of miss it, but realize that i'd rather die alone then fuck her
Seriously she would type the dreams sometimes to, i still have them saved at work.
I'd bet all my money right now if i had even typed half the crap she did and i said it to another girls i'd have been fired,sued, put on a sexual offender list and unable to get a job for the rest of my life
I still get some hard eye contact from some cute girls there, and i'm assuming it's not "why is this creepy guy staring at me" because they always sort of initiate it.
Wouldn't be the first time I've made that mistake though. Thats why i don't try and talk to any of them
> It takes intelligence to argue a point and provide valid sources, all while maintaining a coherent argument
i am a lawyer. i am the source. your sources, including your opinion and the cases you cited, are either invalid, mistaken, or inapplicable. the other guy is a cop. he does not understand the law. he just doesnt. he can say that he does. but he doesnt.
>At this point I think you are just trying to have a big dick contest, and I for one am insulted.
this is a metaphor for our respective arguments. your argument is weak (small dick). my argument is strong (big dick). that's why you're insulted.
>It's clear that all the pretend lawyers in here saying the drunk guy automatically consented
nobody is saying that. we are using his admissions he made as a basis for our arguments, including:
- got drunk
- girl sucked his dick
- "went with it" because he "wanted to lose his virginity"
- "was fine with it" after it happened
Ahahah already working on the face fat
Yeah, I recently decided to stop getting my haircuts from my usual friend cuz while she charges next to nothing, they usually come out a lil dorky.
Wow, he is calling us both unintelligent and you are still picking on me.
Clearly you have a very bad bias here.
Maybe you are as unintelligent as he says, since we are devolving into ad-homenims :^)
>rushing to judgement
I'm not a US attorney so I shouldn't comment on US law but as I said in >>35963866 any case the prosecution could make in Australia re: lack of consent is critically undermined by the OP's admission that he "went along with it to lose his virginity."
Meh. He did his ass and lips and everything. And actually did it at expensive places not some basement. I guess a 6/10 which I'd say is pretty impressive for a tranny. I'm just not into that kinda shit though so it doesn't really matter to me.
>work for the government and am literally the youngest person in my office by 15 years
>ladies always be mirin
>walking down hall
>"hey anon! Have you been training for a competition or something?"
>"well you're so... Wide." Grabs my lats
>in file storage with one of the better looking coworkers I have
>lift my self up between file cabinets
>"wow anon you're pretty fit"
>smile and show off, start doing dips in the file cabinets
>can hear her panties frothing like a latte maker
If both parties are intoxicated and one "takes advantage" of the other, (who goes along with it) how is that rape or sexual assault?
Neither parties are able to "consent," and regretting it after the fact surely can't make it rape, right?
I had drunken, consensual sex with a grill when i was a bit younger (she initiated it) and she later told her friends that it was rape so she wouldn't have to take responsibility or answer to her jealous friend that was super into me.
She truly was nuts m8s, regret and a desire to not take for your actions does not equal rape, and in think law anon is completely right about
If she was sober and anon was blacked out, he wasn't able to give consent and upon waking, surely had the legal responsibility to say "no" but failed to do so.
But since she was also intoxicated, how does that affect her legal liability in this case?
Well as I said, and as he said, your intelligence was also attacked.
And another Lawyer has chimed in saying your argument may be questionable
So once again, you pick on me as I appear to be easy prey, not having a background in law. But do not dismiss my intelligence because I have not read the same subject matter as you.
>>can hear her panties frothing like a latte maker
>And another Lawyer has chimed in saying your argument may be questionable
he actually agrees with me. you cannot determine whether there was consent purely on level of intoxication. he never analyzed the specific facts you gave us.
>So once again, you pick on me as I appear to be easy prey, not having a background in law. But do not dismiss my intelligence because I have not read the same subject matter as you.
you're right. im sorry for calling you unintelligent. you are uninformed, but you are probably very smart.
Also, there's been two separate women that would come up behind me in my cube and start rubbing my back.
The first was supposed to be my mentor. She was decent looking but I'm glad nothing ever happened. She would always take me out to dinner and buy me drinks all night.
The most recent was a nasty bitch in her 50s. She would always "joke" about being tied up and shit like that. Totally disgusted me but I always laughed it off. She finally got a job elsewhere.
okay here goes:
>If both parties are intoxicated and one "takes advantage" of the other, (who goes along with it) how is that rape or sexual assault?
you need more facts
>Neither parties are able to "consent," and regretting it after the fact surely can't make it rape, right?
don't know. you need more facts
>I had drunken, consensual sex with a grill when i was a bit younger (she initiated it) and she later told her friends that it was rape so she wouldn't have to take responsibility or answer to her jealous friend that was super into me.
that really sucks, anon.
>She truly was nuts m8s, regret and a desire to not take for your actions does not equal rape, and in think law anon is completely right about (citation).
he is incorrect.
>If she was sober and anon was blacked out, he wasn't able to give consent and upon waking, surely had the legal responsibility to say "no" but failed to do so.
lets break this one down:
>If she was sober and anon was blacked out, he wasn't able to give consent and upon waking
correct so far, even though that is different form what he stated
> upon waking, surely had the legal responsibility to say "no" but failed to do so.
he does not have a legal responsibility to say no. that requirement is archaic and no longer black letter law
>But since she was also intoxicated, how does that affect her legal liability in this case?
it doesn't. voluntary intoxication is not a valid defense in a rape case.
Yes, all the time by the HR lady. But she's up for a promotion to management soon, so I figure I'll wait until she outranks me and then sleep with her. Then the company can never fire me.
Oh my god, this has happened to me at every job I've ever had, plus some of them inappropriate touching - like in college when I worked in a restaurant the kitchen Mexicans would not stop massaging my shoulders or just generally touching me when I told them not to.
It happens all the time regardless of gender, though maybe a little more to women, I don't know, I've never been any other gender. You either report it to a manager as a hostile work environment or you get over it.
Don't be a whiny attention whore.
>work in a large factory
>majority women with most being 30-50
>be decent looking
>changing out a bearing under a stairway that wore out bad
>young (older than me) 25 yr old lady walks by
>thought she had the hots for me numerous times, would ask me to come over for minor maintenance stuff, and general flirty stuff around the line she worked
>see a few older women pointing and laughing
>assume I have grease marks on my face
>get up to go and find another bearing from the supply room
>run into the 25yr old's vagina
>she had propped herself up on the machine so she could be funny and have the other ladies on that particular line take a picture of her doing the V thing where women pretend to spread their vagina
>she falls and I barely catch her
>set her down, shake my head, and walk off
>jokingly mention something to my boss about it later
>next week I'm brought before the plant manager and fired
>don't understand why
>tells me I've been harassing the ladies and touching them inappropriately and specifically mentions the incident was why I was fired.
>go ballistic and get walked out
>call a lawyer and get the video tape of the incident from guardbro (every line had cameras to keep dumbass women from stealing)
>win my lawsuit and get a small amount of money
>work at another company and I tell everyone I'm gay so nobody even looks at me
>Tfw in good shape but ugly as fuck face so I never get harassed
Suck it plebs
It wasnt... makes me wonder if rape victims half way think "it wasn't so bad" sometimes too :\
yeah for a long long time. Even when she had bfs I was still fucking her
Its not that bad desu
I get jokes from time to time, but if I know and respect the maintenance guys I work with I tell them that I'm not actually gay and just only keep up appearances around the women, paperwork, and management. none of that flamboyant shit though.
unsurprisingly, browsing /fit/ a lot while others are around is a great cover.
>work in nursing home
>have good rapport with everybody
>have one lady who has dementia who has been hurting everybody recently
>she saw me talking to a different resident
>she slid her hand under my flat butt
>she was giggling the whole time
You want a hugbox dyel? Please go back 2reddit where you came from little man. Do it now. Post back when you've done it, then immediately after exit out of my chan.
>female coworker begins to act super flirty
>comes up behind me, wraps her arm around my waist etc. etc.
>Barely know the bitch
>Her face is a solid 3/10
>She's several months pregnant
>And engaged to be married
I assumed she was feeling fugly due to the pregnancy and wanted a fug to feel attractive or some shit.
I never acted on it and it was a seasonal gig so we stopped seeing each other after a couple months.
>tfw the recent mires you've been getting are old ladies complimenting my dimples
>mfw all of you work with women
>mfw none of you have real jobs
>get drunk and have sex with someone
>you weren't in control of yourself, it's rape
>get drunk and crash a car into someone
>you were in control of yourself, you're going to prison!
I left a job due to this
>Be factory worker
>just over a year liftan, got them noob gains.
>yoga and calisthenics before I started lifting so hella booty.
>work with mostly females, I end up doing all the heavy lifting.
>there's always a comment about my arms or my ass.
>tons of "accidental" contact and the occasional straight up ass slap or chest touch.
>pull off hoodie before work and short comes up with it.
>"LOOKIT ANONS ABS! HEY ANON LIFT YOUR SHIRT BACK UP SO [other fem coworkers] CAN SEE!
>boss glares at me, his work crush is mirin, I'm sent to HR to explain I didn't do it in purpose...
>now they try to pull my shirt up all the time, start wearing undershirt tucked in.
>wear hair down at work one day, fat tow driver tells me it'd look better on her pillows.
>grin and bear all this shit, have a good woman and no interest in cheating, job pays alright and had good benefits.
>work shuts down early due to inclement weather.
>hey anon can I use your phone to call a cab? Mine is dead.
>give it to her and continue conversation with workbro about vidya gaems.
>she's still gone 15 minutes later.
>WTF? Takes that long to call a cab?
>find her outside talking to another coworker, they're both looking at her phone.
>she apologizes and gives me my phone back.
>weather clears enough for work to reopen, I go back and get a shitload of stares, lots of people I don't know apparently know me.
>get there early same as everyday to eat my lunch, boss pulls me into HR.
>I had my progress pics on my phone.
>and some I'd send to my girl.
>basically just a shitload of nudes, she sent them to her own phone and her friends then deleted the messages off of my phone.
>the people she showed sent them to other people.
>I'm basically fucked.
>explain what happened, they're basically convinced I'm just a pervert.
>beyond mad at this point
>quit on the spot
>unemployed for 8 months, couldn't find work, my girl wants to kill those cunts.
Wait, why on earth wouldn't you fight that? People stole and shared your nudes and you just let bygones be bygones? It'd be not that hard to prove they texted themselves the messages at a time that you have an witnessed alibi for not having your phone.
This is just the story you told your GF right?
Honestly, when I worked in mcdonald's I was probably the least sexy person alive. I was 22 at the time and this 30 year old Polish woman (who was quite playful), tapped my stomach and went, 'oOOohhh, abs... I like abs."
Of course, being in my McDonald's cap and all, fries started falling out of my pockets.
Man this thread reminds me of my high school days. I was pretty attractive, (even fucking dudes told me that, wtf) but I was recovering from acne so I had very low self esteem which sometimes bordered on outright hate for girls. There was one chick in particular, though
>literally every time she passes by, grabs my shoulder from the back and sort of pushes me aside
>touching usually gets me mad but this just too obvious and funny
>having Convo with younger dude
> she comes in like 'hey guys, whats up'
>younger dude looks up to me, I think, usually does what I do
>I stop talking, he stops talking
>we all sit and stare at each other for about 20 sec? (I was stoned)
>she says 'good talk' and leaves
She was probably the most forward, but the worst was the eyefucking from randos
>fat Mexican chick at work
>fun to talk to, always laughs at my stupid inappropriate jokes when talking shit
>asks to hang out multiple times, I decline or make excuses because co-workers
>finally hangout with, get drunk cool around
>catch feels, date, fuck more
>she dumps me
>three months later still get shit from co-workers but it's usually at her exspense or asking why I don't keep fucking her as fwb
>can't do fwb because faggot
>ignore all womem now, have gotten more fit and lifts improved because I work out more
>the iron never disappoints me
I regret not suing, if only to clear my name, and I'm not the kind of guy to just fling nudes at people so no it wasn't a cover. I just felt It'd be better to leave and drop it all... anger issues and a ton of bullshit in my life already.
Because I was pretty much accused of being a sexual deviant and not a word I said was heeded the entire time they were talking the incident over with me, the bitches all got a story together so despite everyone knowing they constantly pulled bullshit with me I still got shit all over, I was fed up with a ton of other shit there by that point anyway.
I mean shit niggas... I just want to work and get a paycheck. Fucking sloots complicate your life without you even ever giving them the D.
Because you are average/slightly above average and they feel you are approchable and a possibilty for them, if you were say a 9+ alpha chad they would be too intimidated to do this. Sorry if that burts your bubble
>coworkers talk about my ass and body constantly
>poke, bump into or blatantly grope my ass
>asked to leave early one day
>told to lift up my shirt to show my abs and then I'll get to leave.
>boss admits to hiring me for my looks
>gay coworkers hit in my blatantly all day
>everyone in our huge workplace knows my name
>haven't met most of these people.
>work at Starbucks
>half of my coworkers are homosexuals
>the other half are middle-aged white mums
>gays mire aesthetics
>mums mire strength
>skip 3 years, now in grad school
>much bigger than before
>visit the shop I used to work at for a drink
>most of them still there
>they shit their pants when they recognize me
>gays ask me about my routines, etc.
>one of them says "damn anon you have a great ass, I'd love to grab a handful of that haha"
>spaghetti mode engaged
>"S-sorry I already have a bf"
>all of them wide-eyed
>some look disappointed
>grab my drink and excuse myself
>leave a trail of spaghetti behind me
Accept, wait for him to buy you the membership, tell him you're not gay and talk to him about fucking girls all the time. Free membership and he backs off because gay people are allergic to vagina.
I was hungry and she invited me to lunch.
And she lives at home and I stayed the night a few times.
I fell for her pretty hard senpai, I think it was just because I hadn't dated in a long time and I was a virgin and she kept fucking me. I just liked them relationship feels.
I think she just wanted to fuck me, it got to serious for her and she bailed.
For the best, fat chick that smokes, older than I am and still lives at home because she's in school...
Guys remember you have rights as well. You're not above sexual harrasment because you're male. You should file a conplaint or whatever you do in your company. If someone tries to stop you, remind them of equal rights.
This men can't be raped or victim of sexual harrasment or violence needs to stop.
Um, how does one purposely avoid meeting someone else's parents? This isn't the goddamn 19th century, you don't have to ask the father permission to date his daughter you idiot.
I met my bf's mother the same day I met him.
I'd pretend that I'm being raped and then half way through I'd overpower her with my MANHOOD and fuck her brains out. What a tweest for her
Her: "Want to meet my parents?"
Ayo swolicitor are you still here? There is ineffective consent tho, such as those given by retards, minors, and as I would argue: those intoxicated to such a degree as to impair reasoning.
>At work today
>tall, dark, handsome (at least my mom says so)
>9/10 mixed girl, ass so fat I stare everytime I look
>Slaps my ass whenever she walks by
>Talks to me about how bad she wants her ass eaten
>Mfw internally, smiling and doing my work externally
>Keeps complimenting my face, ass, arms
>I have a GF and she's fully aware of this
I still think this shit she's doing is pretty hot. It feels pretty good, getting blatantly mired like that, and I would never cheat but God damn if I wasn't dating my girl.
>it was during highschool, don't judge me
M8, you were working either way. Where it was doesn't matter, you were an important, productive part of society. Don't be ashamed of that.
If you can better yourself, then that's great, but we always need people in the likes of those jobs.
Guys I saw a legit 9-10/10 at gym yesterday. A petite blonde eith dem god tier face aesthetics.
Now I feel bad for her. Imagine, every single guy being autistic around you, and every other woman hating you for being so pretty.
Maybe that life is not so good after all.
And she was stared at, hard. All the guys in the gym would sneak peek at her bum and at her when she walked etc.
>asks me if I'm on the swim team because v taper lats
I can assure you that:
a) these words (or thoughts) have never come out of a fatties mouth, and
b) all of this really happened
>No but when I went through a security check with a pat-down to get into an event a woman just reached around and patted and squeezed my butt, didn't check my pockets or anything else. She then said "you've got a great ass" and let me through. At the time I took it as a compliment but man, when you think about it it's quite bad. It's very blatant sexual harassment from a person in a position of power to someone which depend on that person, since she had the power to refuse to let me entry.
It's always the MILFs, bros.
>Pretty attractive 7/10 indian coworker
>I have no fucking clue how old she is, could be any where between 20 and 40
>know she has a 7 year old kid and I am not about that life
>she keeps telling me how great I look and asking about me losing weight and putting on muscle
>lately she keeps asking me what I'm doing on the weekends
>Different coworker, know she's 30 with five kids
>her husband works for the same company, he's like 6'3" and is pretty overweight
>every time I see her she's complaining about her husband
>We get to talking about art history (I'm a graphic designer, and she's a marketing manager who majored in art history in college)
>talks turns to Italy and France
>she starts talking about how she just wants to leave her husband and go to Europe
>nope the fuck out of that conversation
It's like a field of land mines out there broskis. If they were a little younger or unattached it'd be welcome, but it's like these crazy milfs have no filter.
I am licensed to practice in a civil law jurisdiction and I am reviewing to have my license to practice in a common law jurisdiction. This concept is present in both and can be used both in systems in criminal and contracts law as well as in torts where consent can be used as a defense.>>35967471
>This concept is present in both and can be used both in systems in criminal and contracts law as well as in torts where consent can be used as a defense.>>35967471 #
There's an extraneous "both" and a post quote in there
>tfw early morning shitposting
>DoJ defines rape as "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."
Come on dude, that definition of rape is widely considered woefully inadequate, as it legally makes it near impossible for rape of men to "count". Legally you may be right, but morally you're a fucking tool.
Ok here's a couple quick ones
This is back when I was 16 in my first job as a city day camp counselor:
>Been working with the kids for about a month, things are going good
>I'm the only male that works there, but it's a fun job and I love kids
>got a bunch of talking to when hired about proper conduct around kids
>literally all of the conduct only applies to me because I have a penis, and penis means pedo apparently
>get really paranoid about acting right so I'm not labelled a pedo
>some of the older girls, 11-14, have a major crush on me
>that's totally normal for the age, so I ignore it until they begin to get more aggressive
>they start grabbing my butt, trying to sit in my lap, rubbing themselves on me, pulling up their shirt in front of me, talking about my body, etc.
>have no fucking idea where they learned this stuff at that age
>every fiber of my being is screaming danger, but I'm not more than a kid myself and am terrified of telling them to stop in case I get labelled a pedo
>can't tell boss because scared of being labelled a pedo
>have to tolerate being sexually harassed by a small pack of tween girls for a whole year before I finally get the courage to ask my coworker (a girl) to get them to stop
>within a week all the girls are behaving well again, no more sexually inappropriate activity
>tfw it was that easy and I put up with that shit for a year for no reason
Being harassed by kids is bad enough, but I think middle aged women are the worst. I got a lot more stories I can post, let me know if they suck and I'll stop.
This one was through the same city camp counselor job, though I was 20 at that point and only working summers by then:
>been at the job for four years now, pretty settled in, but the pay hasn't increased at all so I've outgrown it
>tell my boss it's my last summer, so she decides to invite me to a work/city function as a thank you for my hard work
>none of the other counselors were invited, so I feel pretty special
>the party/function is held in a local hairdressers place, and has all the people to know in town in there, including several city council people and some of the wealthier citizens
>I'm the youngest by at 20 years, and probably the poorest by far, so I feel enormously out of place at this wine and dine function
>eventually start to get comfy, the food is good, and I figure this is a good chance to mingle with the upper crust and start making professional connections for when I graduate with my engineering degree
>a few hours in I've already made a few contacts, and am finishing up my circuit of touching base with everybody there when I meet this drunk MILF
>she's got enormous titties, a flat tummy, pretty face, but is probably older than my mom
>more than that, not only is she married, but she's married to the director of city parks and recreation who is my boss's boss
>of course this woman sees the muscular young man (me) and immediately beelines it towards me
>she's acting extremely inappropriate, pressing her breasts against me, sliding her hand under my shirt onto my stomach and right on the inside of my pants, squeezing and rubbing my everywhere
>tells me her husband actually has a business meeting that night if I want to come over and "have coffee" at her place
>I am mortified, and have no idea what to do yet again
>the people around me see what she's doing and thankfully come to my rescue so I don't have to risk trying to pry this lamprey off of me in public
>she gives me her number before she leaves and tells me to call her
Now that I am thinking about it, I have been sexually harassed a lot in life. This one was also when I was 20 through my job at uni in the uni's call center, which was all women except for one other guy and myself:
>been working here for three months at this time
>the people are nice, there's free food, and it's a nice break from my previous manual labor job
>I've gotten a few uncomfortable sexual advances from coworkers, but nothing that a little awkward silence didn't get rid of
>a lot of the women in the office and nearby departments are flirty, but it's appropriate and tolerable so I feel ok with it
>a new coworker startsand she seems cool at first
>she's super Christian and in a very committed, engaged, relationship, so for once I actually feel comfortable having a "safe" female work friend and we become work buddies
>this was a big mistake
>this girl starts getting far too comfortable with me, calling me her "work husband", saying how much she wishes her fiance was tall and strong like me
>begins asking me out to school events and bars because her fiance is supposedly too busy to go
>I say I would rather go out if my gf and her fiance were there too just so everybody knew it was appropriate
>instead of being discouraged, she doubles down
>she begins sitting next to me at work and putting her hand on my inner thigh, gives me backrubs, makes me homemade lunches and teas, continually tells me how big and strong and manly I am
>I still clearly have no idea how to effectively deal with harassment situations so I deal with it in silence, which I think just encourages her
Part two incoming, this one was longer than I thought.
>Eventually she tells me that her fiance is sterile (no idea if it was true or not), and that she's always wanted lots of children
>she says that since I am so big and strong, she would love if she could have my kids so she could raise big strong kids like me once she's married
>she says her fiance would be ok with it if he didn't find out until after she was pregnant
>for once I finally have enough and immediately nope the fuck out of there
>I tell her through email (so it's in writing) that she is being ridiculously inappropriate and that if she doesn't stop I'm going to have to tell HR and turn this into a harassment isse
>I never get a response, but she doesn't say a word to me after that, and ends up quitting two weeks later
I still see her on campus sometimes and she'll awkwardly try to hug me, but I still get massive creep vibes off of her. Where the fuck do people think this stuff is ok?
I've heard Japan is pretty bad with the sexual harassment, got any stories? My gf wants us to visit there, but I'm honestly frightened at the prospect of harassment being any worse. It's definitely a double edged sword breh.
Another story incoming, give me a few minutes.
If half of what you posted is true and significative, you must be pretty handsome.
>be 5'7 mexican manlet in the service
>get sent to okinawa
>in pretty good shape since i wanted to be SF but shit eyesight get a job as an airplane mechanic
>still work out for myself and to make fat co workers jelly
>Kick box off base for fun and competition
>First time went to club in oki downtown drunk japanese girl stumbles out she falls and i catch her ask her of she alright
>She punches me and then take a good look at me grabs my head and makes out with me takes my cell phone out of my pocket types in her number and takes a taxi cab out of there
>all of my wut
Got more stories if people are intrested
Saw the same thing in my text book kek
>Got with friends to club
>Some young japanese girls there
>start drinking together
>One just jumps on my lap and unzips my panta whips out my dick and gives a handjob put of nowhere on the couch bouncer sees this and kicks us all out of the club
>Friends are all pissed fugggg i didnt do nuffin
This one actually happened last semester when I was 21 at my job in the uni's moving department. After a year in the call center I got tired of working with nothing but women so I moved to the one department with nothing but men. Unfortunately, women find a way to harass regardless:
>I've been at the moving department for about six months
>it should really be called Garbage, Recycling, and Moving since we're really just garbagemen who occasionally move desks, but the work is aight
>all my coworkers and my boss are bros, and best of all there's no women
>except for one thing: Pilot
>Pilot is a cool sounding name for us being janitors that go to the uni office buildings to take the recycling from the office cows' offices, because god forbid they stand up and use the recycling bins in the hallways
>I'd rather get covered in rancid garbage than do this since 99% of the people we deal with there are women, but all my shifts fall partly during Pilot so I have no choice
>most of the time it's fine, about half the women ignore us and the other half are nice, asking us about our days, etc.
>except one woman is a little too nice to me
>she's pretty cute and probably only about 8 years older, so I jokingly nickname her my Office Bae to my coworkers, and think that's the end of it
>she always wants to chat for just a little too long, and the topics are always just a little too personal, but I think nothing of it because I am still apparently a retard even after a lifetime of this shit
>I humor her because she’s nice and she gives me free candy, but this turned out to be a mistake
>a month ago she begins in with “wow anon, you’re looking really muscular today, lifting all those desks is really working for you!”
Part two coming.
>she then stands up and starts squeezing my arms, rubbing my traps, and puts her hand on my chest
>while her hand is on my chest, she begins telling me that she’s having marital problems with her husband
>I’m a retard, but even I can see these warning signs at this point
>the problem is that I don’t want to just grab her hand and remove it because all I need is some sort of trumped up assault/harassment charge against me if I am too rough
>I have to stand there for five minutes while this women rubs my pecs and abs and tells me that her husband isn’t home enough so they haven’t been having sex like they used to
>apparently too much information doesn’t exist in her world
>she sighs and “jokingly” says, “if only I had a big boy like you around instead, anon!”
>my coworker who was finishing up the recycling at this point gets tired of waiting and tells me to hurry up, so I finally have an excuse to beat a hasty retreat
>I haven’t been in her office since, and make my coworker get her recycling every time we’re in the building because I am still a pussy it seems
It's all 100% true unfortunately. If I was going to make it up then I would at least make myself look like less of a pushover faggot when I’m being sexually harassed. The non work related stories are even worse if you can believe it.
I never thought of myself as handsome since I've always been depressed with really low self esteem, but judging by what other people tell me about my looks and the amount of harassment I get, I guess I am pretty good looking. I'm also pretty charming IRL and not autistic, which I am sure helps cover up physical shortcomings I have.
When i first got my job at this place my boss would hit on me and call me pretty to my face. One time during a meeting sexual harassment came up as a topic. Talked about how to report it etc boring shit, but then she said i could get away with it if i wanted to, jokingly, and then everyone laughed, i didn't like it. There's another that comes over to try and make me laugh and talk but she's not funny at all and sometimes she trys to dump her life drama on me and touch my arm and shoulder.
My last job i had one girl who would always try striking up a conversation with me when i trying to work, just some basic hot but not pretty girl dime a dozen you know the type, idiot too. they always tell me my eyes are really blue and i have pretty eyelashes or some other bullshit, one time she laughed at something i said then gave me a fuck me look in the middle of work.
Fucking shit bugs me i wish they would fuck off and do their jobs, nothing worse than a woman boss. I feel like i can't do anything but laugh it off and shake my head then they just smile shly and adjust body language. Guys are just expected to have to put up with it but this shit really does eat at me. Some days i wish my super would just stay at her desk and not come near me.
On my cellphone getting ready for school
>Go to tokyo for leave
>decide to go to roppongi for shits and giggles
>all the clubs are packed
>Go inside one and push my way to the bar
>30yr old jap woman at bar buying drinks
>says i am cute and buys me a drink
>asks me if i want another one say sure
>gets me a shot we drink them together
> starts making with me and says she loves me
>adds me on fb
>take a look at her profile
>noping the fuck out of here
>tell her i need to go to the bathroom
>she smiles and says she will be waiting
>gtfo out of there
>she continues texting me and liking my stuff on fb for like 2 months
got openly harassed by a gay dude this morning
Im so confused
I didn't ask her to kiss me bro and usually they do say it as like but she was screaming it a few times
Asian girls catch feels pretty quick in my experince and go nutters if they want to steal you from your gf or wife
shit was really annoying after i got married to my chinese qt
>be me working at a grocery store deli
>17 at the time and everyone else is going through metapose
>just doing my job and look over because I hear snickers
>I see that they all have a copy of shades of grey in their hands
>realize they keep looking over at me then back in their book
>giggling continues then they all approach me
>"Hey anon do you know of 50 shades of grey? There's some stuff in there that would be fun
>at this point I don't know what to say so I say nothing and just smerk because I'm autist
>"well anyways you should read it and let us know!"
>I just let out a small squeak "ok..."
>go back to my job and they go back to their side still giggling
>everything's fine now , I'm just trying not to think of 4 old bags tying me up and spit roasting me like the chicken I'm preparing.
>all of a sudden one of them is walking past and grases my ass with her hand.
>praying to any god that it was an accident
>she has to walk by me again and this time slaps my ass (just did my squats before going to work so extra plump in my tight work pants that are mandatory)
>she just laughs and says softly "it is firm"
>I'm now sweating and now more autistic than ever realizing the gods have failed me
>she goes back to her side and proceeds to tell them I'm guessing.
>now they're all staring
>I tell my manager at break I'm not feeling well so I can go home and clense with a gallon of bleech
I quit work next week and now I avoid that grocery store because they will for ever be there until they die of their heart disease and cigarets
>was sitting in a court room waiting for a friend
>this fucker is sitting next to me
>he is way too close and his hand is on my hip but I just ignore it
>start talking to me
>I just turned 18 and he must be like 29
>says to me "hey do you have a gf?" I said yeah, he says "how often do you have sex?", dunno what to tell him so I weirdly laugh
>things are getting too weird now with him talking discussing anal and stuff
>he creeps me out,I realize my friend is not coming so I tell this guy "uh my friends not coming, im going now"
>I literally run away
>god I feel good i got rid of that fucker, but no, he follows me
>now in street, he asks me about something wrong with his phone, standing right next to me
>out of nowhere he just grabs my dick
>now im shocked, want to punch him or insult him but he wasa thick manlet and im just unlocking otter-mode
>I ignore it, he looks me straight in the eye and say "will you fuck me please? ill let you do whatever you want just come with me"
>I say "hey my friend is waiting for me" and walk away
happened this morning, im still confused
Yeah, the lips and lashes have always been one of the top things complimented on my face after the eyes.
Funnily enough I've been repeatedly accused of using mascara by girls who were jelly of my fully, curved lashes. I've also had a few say I used some kind of lip gloss/lipstick to make my lips look good. Girls are just mad because they're not beautiful like us.
>my nose is way bigger
>eyebrows are bushier
>much stronger jaw
>I have a better hairline
>I have curly, dark brown hair
>my neck is much more defined
>I have these weird eye bag things above my cheekbones that she doesn't
I guess we could make be related, but you're tripping. At least I feel better now that I have seen how little resemblance there is.
The point is that drunk people can consent to sex the same way they can be held accountable for drunk driving.
Obviously if they don't say anything that's not consent but there are cases where the woman says yes, regrets it the next morning, and claims rape.
Fucking good luck man. Social equality is a god damn lie, as it DOES NOT apply to men. If you're lucky you'll get laughed at and have nothing be done, and if you're unlucky you'll get penalized somehow for rocking the boat. The fact is that men are still held to a higher standard than women despite society ostensibly supporting social equality, and that means nobody will take a harassment claim seriously.