Cheating frauds general for the discussion of steroid stuff
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>speed baking bread edition
>TFW big test flu hits me
>wake up feeling like a bay bay
>magic god juice saves humankind again
What is everyone doing today ? Leg day today!
OK so I've come up with two scenarios:
300tren/500 test e
350tren/500 test e
400 tren/200 test prop
April: 500test/500EQ/70 Var
Why not keep e2 conversion at bay? Granted I just got bloods done and my e2 levels are 11. So... not likely to get gyno, but as a precaution have it on hand.
And studies show hcg on cycle is better than not
Yeah you're right; that's 12-16 weeks I'm looking at here. Fuck
Why not... test Feb-March and then tren month of april/latter part of march? I still have no idea how reactive I'll be to test
Oldfag that's getting back in the game.
Not looking for sources, but I haven't bought anything since Operation Raw Deal and I want to know which UGL brands are good today. I know about Geneza and maybe a few others but some honest opinions based on experience would be nice, thanks in advance if anyone replies.
>really just looking for some decent Sust to get going again
because tren run for a longer period of time will result in more cuts in the muscle and more capped delts and more everything that screams high androgen which wins bodybuilt shows, feel me?
I've done test, and test + tren e before. Tren E seemed to go okay, but I couldn't handle the horniness and painful injection, ended up getting in less gym time because of it.
Will a serm work? Or does it have to be an AI?
I got some beginning of gyno symptoms on a long test cycle, so I want to sort that shit out before jumping on.
I feel you... What about having caber on hand? You know, to make sure my dick still works after my cycle lol.
desu that's hella risky running the strongest steroid on earth for a young baby.
I mean I've heard of a guy named dhb here only running raloxifene while cruising but besides that yes sir, take some kind of an ai
Ok I need sleeps niw
anon run your tren, Imm trying to live vicariously through you, see you in the morning
its wise to have it on hand but apparently
e2 is what comverts into prolactin so if you keep e2 low you wont need to worry anout prolactin which can give you a soft dick for weeks... I would just have it on hand for the security
Ok sleep for real now
Aside from telling me I should fuck hotter women, that she keeps "forgetting" things I left at her place she wants to return, and telling me she wants to be alone? A lot. She has a lot to say to me for a girl that wants me to leave her alone.
So wait, bulbine natalensis and forskolin actually work to some degree? Moreover, bulbine natalensis seems to actually enhance other indicators like LH and FSH rather than shutting them down. Has anyone tried bulbine natalensis for an extended period?
Both. The compound itself seems to have a burn feel to it, both 200mg/mL tren E and 75mg/mL Tren A, even mixed with the test and warmed up in water. Test E was fine though.
Hence I want to do something else, but I want to go overseas in 21 weeks, and if I do 12 weeks of cycle I can get EQ up fast by front loading it, but the long ester means it'll hang out and I wont recover fully before going over I think.
Maybe I can just use higher test, or add Mast E in instead.
Hey fraudsters, I think I've bought the wrong pins.
After I've injected there is always some oil left in the syringe where the plunger can't push past the neck. It's annoying to waste around 0.1ml per jab.
Also I couldn't find 1.5" 25g needles so I bought them in 1" which I'm worried isn't long enough to gone me much error margin when pinning glutes.
Going overseas in 21 weeks. That'll be enough time to recover from a 12 week cycle I can start in a week, or even the test now.
I think EQ is too long though, was looking at it's drop off rates at ceasing the cycle. Much slower to get out than enanthate esters.
have you guys met anyone IRL or online that has had permanent shutdown from long term gear use?
If i was i wouldnt be on 4chan ;_;
This cut is only making me look worse, i swear
Everyone responds differently. Some docs have to prescribe as much as 150mg/wk to get patients into acceptable range. That being their opinion of acceptable, which is usually 600ng+.
Funny to think that someone with 500ng could make more use of it than someone with 800-1000ng due to differences in body chemistry
I think it would depend on your age as you get older I'm sure your t levels will begin to go down anyway. I think unless you'd be smashing it hard for 10 years + you would always recover with time.
Jerry is down into the low 170s without a shred of abs in sight.
I once got to 180 and was still at least 15%, and a shitty 15% at that. It's not easy for everyone bb
Dont be h8n
Permanent shutdown isn't a thing. The human body doesn't work in a way where not using something causes it to completely stop functioning
An examples of this are everywhere
Guy in a coma for several years still has function of his body (granted his strength will be very low but not gone completely) but his eyes where also out of action but he can still see ect ect
Thnx b. Sending kindahomo fairy dust wishes your way.
Yoyo or not, we get down to low weights. We're just cursed with perfectly shitty fat distribution that hides any and all progress despite us.
And desu he actually has a lot of trouble eating enough to bulk. It's largely bad luck for him. Im the tru fatass with a binge eating disorder. Dont expect any pity for that. Ben and Jerrys is just better than sex at this point, let's be real
Fresh mire off the press
Chilling with fwb before she leaves for school. One of her friends living with her saw me, stopped in her tracks, looked me up and down, and said "You look like a stripper, a fireman stripper!"
>maybe steroids aren't for us
Don't say things like that
You know how helpful this is gonna be when lean and bulking 4real? I'm gonna go full Rich Piana 30LBS 4 MONTHS LOVE IT KILL IT mode. Hour of cardio ed, eat till i puke. Gonna be so much fun
oh fair enough
you can just cover up any tatoos or anything that might identify you in ms paint
just new to fraud and you seem pretty knowledgeable so was just curious what you looked like
I did plan a cycle but got busy with uni, what i meant is i dont want shit to help me lose weight after gaining 100 kg because dirty bulk, i just want to know which test is the best one for strength and something to acompany the test.
Super good discussions with a lot of varied input. Really good for that.
Especially when my go to reaction is "ignore them" or "fuck them passive". Idk that to with crazy though, crazy for me usually results in them puppy dogging me. Not telling me they want to date and then 180 on me or telling me to fuck off every other text while asking me questions.
>While unlikely gynecomastia and excess water retention are possible due to HCG use
The steroid knowledge website says you don't know what you are talking about https://www.steroid.com/HCG.php
>HCG dose of 250iu every 4-5 days is not only standard but as far as most will want to take it
You are taking more than 4 times the typical dose while on cycle
If you were using it to pct 1000 is typical but you are not doing that
Hey that's what I say when this question is asked
To look good naked. To lift heavier weights. And because of those 2 things feel better about myself
Also I am low test but not low enough to get prescription trt so I could say medical reasons but that's not the real reason. I only found out that I was low test after getting pre first blast bloods done
B-but they don't know which one is the most effective
Oh and is anyone using some special fraud workout routine ? What are your plans ? I just do what I did with more weights and more accessories
Is tb500 suppressive?
Taking some for an injury and never gave it any thought.
What's more effective for a moderate cycle
5 day split or 4 day full body ?
I'm pretty fastidious about this shit so was weighing up whether or not I should get another blood test because I got one 8 weeks ago before starting tb500 with some MGF.
I would have the blood test. It will tell you about your test for peace of mind and if the tb500 is doing anything nasty to your body. At the end of the day, it's a research chemical
>just got a call from a recruitment office
>they offer me a job as head of warehouse and export for an huge chemical company
>ask me right away what my salary expectations are
>tell them i earn x euros a month (i lie, i add 340 euro to actual salary)
>they tell me this isnt a problem
>if they wanna hire me I will still add 200 to that fictional number
>if that works i will have increased my monthly salary with 540 euros
fuark that would be so neato
sheeeit to sit in office with some manager
convince him i'm the man for the job
then with a straight face tell him my salary demands
if he says no i'll just say that in that case i prefer to not change my current position
which is true
i'm not gonna change jobs when i gain nothing from it
Has anybody tried (or know anybody that's tried) an Ostarine only cycle before, when they hadn't taken steroids previously?
How did it go?
Yeah it's extremely varied in what I see in terms of shutdown/supression though.
Some people get it, others don't.
I wish I knew what that determining factor was. Age? Having done previous cycles? Something else? I dunno.
Yeah but I switched over to LGD, which is a lot better, which is also a lot better when added to test apparently. Which I'll try. Don't bother with Osta, go straight to LGD.
It's not shutdown, it's test suppression.
>It's not shutdown, it's test suppression.
Excuse me, but I'm a dumbass.
Can you tell me the difference?
Do test levels "come back" after suppression? I'm guessing after you've lost all your gains.
Technically speaking you can gain weight on maintenance or cut if your protein synthesis is high enough and you have some body fat to spare.
IIRC, bodyfat tissue is 90% fat, and muscle tissue is 75% water and 18% protein.
It's somewhere in the vicinity of 1g of body fat has 8-10x more caloric value than 1g of muscle tissue.
For example, if you went 100 cal under your TDEE, lost 17g of fat, gained 50g of muscle tissue, that would be about metabolically balanced, with a net weight gain while under your TDEE.
He is forever grateful to nigress who took his virginity.
If he ever dates a white bitch he better pray she never catches him fapping black trannies.
There's a negative feed back loop that balances your steroid hormones in the body. If for example your body makes x mg or x ng/dl of testosterone per day, and you take x/2 externally.. this will be suppression not shut down.
As your natural levels will decrease to x/2, and essentially be maintained at x. Your LH and FSH levels will decrease. This makes taking any amount under your natural level to try and "Add" to it completely useless.
If you take x or much greater than x of testosterone (the useful way.. what we do), then your body will try to reduce it to get back to normal levels but it cant, so it'll essentially be turned off, and your LH and FSH will be off as well, this is shut down.
A SARM like LGD doesn't interfere too much in the feed back loop, testosterone is reduced somehow, but not through reducing LH and FSH. So it's light suppression.. since the normal LH and FSH levels are still there (the hormones that produce testosterone in your body in the leydig cells).
Which is actually weird to have lowered test but normal LH and FSH, but beneficial. As once the LGD clears from your system recovery is rapid and quick and tapers off and gets slower as it approaches 100% like a curved graph.
So yes, your test levels come back, you don't lose your gains, that's a meme. LGD doesn't tend to have water retention or bloat, or increased glycogen stores in muscles, so there's not much to lose once your come off.
Unlike dbol, when your drop dbol even if you stay on test you lose the water retention etc.
When people lose the water retention and glycogen off some of the steroids they think they're losing their gains, but they're not.
There's a few options, if you specifically want steroids, then it's going to be imho 150-200mg Test E (over 200mg inhibits tendon strength increases etc), and Equipoise/EQ at a higher dosage. EQ has a huge rate of collagen synthesis.
LGD also binds to tendons and bones, and people report healing on it.
TB500 and BPC157 injectable non-performance enhancing peptides supposed to work wonders.
Did some checking up on it, and others allege difference between collagen types, and need of adding HGH to EQ to get the whole benefit. You'll need to do your research.
I'd run TB500 if I had an injury.
some guys has offered me £30 to see a picture of my dick....would I be homo if I sent it? Vial of test right there
So I was attempting to bleed myself and afterward i developed phlebitis in the top of my hand where i stuck the needle.
I believe the needle i used was too large. Should I see a doctor about this? will it go away soon?
Fascinating, that's expanded my knowledge.
I'd get LGD but the supplier here in Australia only has Ostarine or Sarms Forte (which is 1/3 times as strong as Ostarine if I'm reading this shit correctly) so I'm afraid that's what I have to use as I don't trust myself to self medicate.
I'd have enough to take for 10 weeks straight, which is I'm assuming how I'd run a course of it, if it's split up how do you split it?
Also taking it with CJC1295/Ipamorelin and Peg-Mgf. Starting all this in a month or so.
can HGH make my dick grow?
4.5 inches erect has ruined all my confidence with women
Anything to do to counter Isotretinoin fell-like-shititis? More cardio less cardio more food less food, anything's welcome
>tfw already past the explosion of whitehead phase... I-i can see the aesthetics coming out
Will you get any fat gains if you eat at +1500 NATTY maintenance while pinning 1g test and 500mg deca a week?
My diet will be really clean.
45-50protein/30-35 fat/15-20 carbs (only high fiber mashed lentils and root vegetables, no potatos either).
Also have caber and aromasin.
Really afraid of deca moonface or water bloat, I can have erectile dysfunction for all I care.
>testosterone is reduced somehow, but not through reducing LH and FSH
not true, it doesnt seem to affect LH to a statistically significant degree but FSH is lowered significantly
So people who get shutdown got bunk?
Because there are varying accounts of people who got gains that they kept with no/minimal sides whereas some got gains but were suppressed heavily or shut down.
Maybe instead of a SARM they got some test variant because it's cheaper?
So more importantly, would you rather fuck a fat (not like ducking massive, more probably classed as obese) chick or a chick with an acne face?.....ive gone for a fat chick so log as the face is cute
It blows my mind the number of hot girls that do have acne now I think about it.
I went out a few times with this girl when I was 19 who was like, model hot, movie star hot. I came to her house to pick her up one day and she answers the door without make up and I mean, she's still hot but she had a lot of acne at the time.
Fat chick pls
Fat chick because pic related
Thanks senpai on lower dose of the 'tane
TUDCA also helps?
Done 2 cycles before, have been wanting to do a tren e / test e / dbol cycle.
Can you guys give some insight if this is good or if I need to tweak something?
Tren e 200mg / week 10 weeks - Inject once a week
Test e 500mg / week - 12 weeks - Inject once a week
Dbol 50mg ED first 7 weeks
Weeks 1-12 arimidex .25 mg (1/4th) Every Other Day
HCG 1000 iu / week from week 1 to week 14 (14.000 iu needed)
PCT starts 2 weeks after last test inject
Week 14 - Nolva 40mg ED, Clomid 100mg ED
Week 15 - Nolva 40mg ED, Clomid 100mg ED
Week 16 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED
Week 17 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED
Week 18 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED
Mate, I am ULTRA carb sensitive.
I have absolutely no choice but having protein and fat macros that high.
Even with proper AI and a mild cycle I simply cannot eat more than 150g carbs or else I go from practically no lovehandles to having a massive spare tire and my slim fit jeans being ultra tight without anything in the pockets (normally it's loose even with a cased galaxy s6 and a wallet).
150g carbs on a 4000 cal is ridiculous, but some people just have shit genetics.
I'm pretty sure now that all girls have acne, and girls hormones are all sorts of fucked and they're never stable at all.....they get moody randomly, there's no way of understanding them and they have the acne. Chicks seem to be on a permanent hirmonal roller coaster
id wager you have some weird eating habits like extremely high sodium or maybe some food intolerance or something
never heard anyone be that sensitive to carbs
but whatever, do whatever you want
Fair point but I assumed it's known beforehand the extent of the damage.
If it's a girl with apparent acne in social situations then eject, because if she can't conceal that shit then it's out of control
salt doesn't cause issues, when on low carb i'd eat salted peanuts, sausages, cheeses and other shit that greatly exceeds the minimum req and i was fine.
the moment I touch fast food/noodles/rice/bread/pizza/snackie cakes though...
could be some gluten issue by the sounds of it
id try to figure that out before doing anything else cus that shit aint normal
but as i said before, if low carb works for you by all means keep doing it
id recommend increasing fat over protein though
Yeah I suppose I could eat more fatty food.
Fatty minced meat, sausages, nuts and other shit cost like 1/4th the amount of lean protein and I guess I can still get my 250-300g protein with it.
yeah thats what id do
inhibits glucocorticoid hormones, enhances protein synthesis, increases nitrogen retention, increases IGF-1 levels
basically its a super strong androgen that also has great anabolic properties with an emphasis on anti-catabolism
theres some theories that says it causes you to burn some excess carbs off as heat because reasons but i havent seen any actual data on this
get enanthate and maybe 1 vial of prop to frontload if you want to
The pct is overkill. Take AI as needed and not necessarily on a set schedule but that's a good starting point. You're better off dropping hcg and picking up TUDCA for 7 weeks of dbol
Not essential imho.
I take low test with tren and usually use other non aromatizing compounds so it's not of concern for myself.
If you used dbol etc then I would worry about it.
GUys this is a bid day for me
Workout with qt neighbor
She tells me im not fat and i look good
MFW 2 years ago I was 320 lbs and I have always been obese
MFW we went to her apartment to fuckzz
she drinks 2 much
vomits all night
MFW no pussy but still got awesome compliment
Fraud I did this
holy fuck the only thing keeping me alive right now is caffeine and ephedrine, I hate early classes with the burning passion of a dying star
ooh jm popped his misshapen head back in here, cool
I think I'm going to start calling you harvey, like harvey dent
What would be the best way of evening out my quads? My right one looks a good but bigger and its annoying. I'm thinking 1 leg leg press and isolated leg extensions.
sweet. test is real good btw. thanks. making the fatt fall right off on a crazy deficit plus bronkaid for ephederine. Thanks.
Are you a body builder or work close with them?
I don't do bodybuilding for sport or money, no. I know some online and from another gym. My best source of knowledge is an endocrinologist who extracts info from competitors, including ifbb pros by asking their drug stacks and taking their blood work.
>have 8/10 female chica friend over for drinks
>wanted to fuck her forever
>get her into my bed finally
>pound the shit outta her
>nut on her face
>she falls asleep
> i wake up look over in the night shes layin just like pic related
>pulled her panties down and licked her asshole for maybe 20 straight minutes
>jerked it and busted a nut on her ass
>shes awake the whole time
>fuck 1 more time in the morning
>after i bust we're layin there and she starts pokin my upper chest and gigglin
>ive been workin upper chest alot lately guess its startin to show
>Starts poking my bicep
>'anon i think u need to see a doctor. Never seen an arm so big and swollen before hehe'
>send her home
>tfw i have a 7/10 gf but cant stop fuckin around with random 8s
GUys is fucking my neighbor a bad idea? We live in apartments like directly next door to each other. I went over last night cuddled a little bit but no sex. Should I? She is kinda fat but a sweet ass that I would like to plow
Not yet. If she's living right next to you, then you need to assess the crazy. See how weird she is with her exes (not saying you'll date her, but she might not be on the same page as you...), and if she tends to get riled up out of proportion. If shit goes south, for whatever reason, having someone that hates you living right next to you in an apartment would fucking suck.
this is only true if you have any shame in your game
not giving a fuck truly is the answer to all of life's problems
Running tren a 60mg per day. Ran tren e before but not tren a. I'm on day 8 now, not feeling any different and I know it's supposed to hit you quick. Think my stuff is bunk... Only thing giving me slight hope is last 3 nights I've had extremely vivid sex dreams consistently and I usually have maybe 1 a month max. I read tren can do that. But no night sweats, no pumps yet, no harder breathing. I'll definitely give it some more time but still worried. Any experiences like this?
shes not she has a pregnant belly. But that ass is fat. I think I am into her because she is broken. and has daddy issues. Seriously turns me on plus her ass is niiiice and wide and can imagine licking and loving it passionately
Fugg my balls and abs hurt.
Pls no. I can't handle the lecture
I average 85s on the tests but last time I took it, I did the first homework assignment and then said fuck this and didn't do any more homework. Ended up with a D
thank fucking christ I will never have to take anything beyond stats next semester
it's never a comprehension or implementation problem with me, always a retention thing which is like 100% just doing practice problems until my eyes bleed
jfc I'm never going to use this bullshit, just let me learn medical stuff in peace
I have a 10ml bottle of test blend, it'll last me 10 weeks and I thought should I put it to 20 different syringes ready for each injection or will it contaminate if I keep it in the bottle? How should I go about it, vials would have been much simpler but the bottle saved me money.
I tried to get the NPP, I really did.
Nah though, NPP and Deca volume has been way up this winter, I didn't anticipate that at all.
I don't really regard it as anything special, yeah. Actually, providing good customer service saves me time and headaches.
A lot of sources are short on communication, I guess. Customers seem appreciative of even payment receipt emails. Whenever I miss a day or two on my usual T/A I'm usually apologizing profusely by email about it, hah.
I dunno people are kind of autistic about this steroid stuff
Sometimes I just skip pins my injection cycle is really fucked up, I don't use an AI, I don't think this shit matters that much
another recruitment agency proposed a job to me today
this one sent an email with a short description of the job and a salary offer right away
fuark it's such good deal
i feel like boss lyf is really going to happen in 2016 guy
my dad is gonna be so pleased when i tell him about the shekels
also just got back from my exam supply chain management and it went real well
fuarlk 2016 year of advancement
>severe social anxiety disorder caused most likely by low test?
Uhh, then you go to the doctor and get TRT. Or if you don't qualify for it, you can try a 200mg/week dose on yourself and see if it helps the anxiety.
If it does, go see another doctor and crash your test levels with no survivors right before you go in for the bloodtest. Voila, you get TRT for life and you'll be a happy autist.
when you never take a chance you will never get where you wanna be
i've taken a lot of risks on quitting and walking out to get better deals and it worked everytime
i would still be a manual worker if i had not done that
Why would you have to wait? Did you even read what I wrote?
Yes, I understand you want to roid. What I'm saying is that if the testosterone on your cycle makes you less anxious, you've pinpointed the cause and can get TRT later on.
God damn, you're dense.
that bitch do anything else today?
Yo brick, I'm gonna talk to a recruiter this week about all the shit we talked about yesterday. Wanted to say thanks for the advice brah
no cuz i also have severe fatigue from it, so even doing basic stuff is like being tortured. no motivation to do anything + severe fatigue + no energy at all = i just want to die unless i can cure this
i work in logistics department of manufacturing plant
one offer is for similar position but big increase in salary
other offer is for team leader of manual workers in freight forwarding company. i dont like the job but the pay is even better than the first offer. and my dad says money is more important than enjoyment or fulfilment
You probably don't care to hear this but I know exactly how you feel.
What helped me was when I came to the realization that it was all in my head. I was laying in bed trying to fall asleep but couldn't because I was sick to my stomach I was so depressed. I asked what the fuck was wrong with me and it just clicked. My mind had the power to actually make me ill. It was that powerful. My whole dilemma was caused by depression in my head. I told myself that if my mind was powerful enough to actually hurt my body, it should be powerful enough to make me heal. I woke up the next day and looked forward to the day. Legit, genuine, hope and ambition to the day. My life turned around completely once I just thought differently. It is true that positive thoughts can attract positive energy to you. Good luck bro
Thinking about popping a quarter of a viagra and fucking asian qt all night. Is this a bad idea? Anyone ever taken viagra for the purpose it was made for?
Anyone ever taken viagra for the purpose it was meant to be used?
If you are willing to take a SARM for a while and make sure your test is low low before getting bloods done that is an option. You will get prescription trt but you might have to put up with feeling like worse shit for even longer before that point tho
You might not want to hear this but test isn't some magic chemical that can fix your depression or even your other symptoms. You should go to a doctor and while there ask to get a reference to a good psychologist. A lot of your problems could be inside your head and you should try to get the help you deserve. Be open with these people they are there to help you
If you have any questions about anything or want to talk about anything we are here for you as much as people on the Internet can be there for each other. Best of luck friend you can make it
Why do you watch it then?
It's like when i watch dan Brazillians life. Look how rich he is, while I'm in poverty.
Life is so though.. shit.
All the money and girllssss.
Try to be happy with the things you got. Don't take anything for granted.
C'est la vie
i feel unstoppable
if i get this, i will have over 1000 euros gross monthly increase in salary compared to the job i was fired from before i got my current one
it's fucking unbelievable
if i get it i'm gonna print out my salary letter and show it to my ex coworkers
make them melt down
Guys, I recently shot 250mg of Testosterone E (1 day ago actually). Hours later my heart started to beat faster and has continue to do it, I wasn't able to sleep all night, yet I felt pretty good emotionally compared to my usual mood.
Now, I've develop an insanely stiff neck with a headache. I know Test E ins't supposed to kick in till 3 or 4 weeks into it. What the fuck is going on, am I dying?
What else have you been doing? Lots of caffeine have you switched anything up? Is the shot area large or red?
i have a current pic on all my job search site profiles
i want everyone to be aware i am balding like a mother fucker and dont give a damn
apparently no fucks are given
i frauded them recruiters into believing i get paid 3000 now (in reality 2660)
it's all about subtle psychological manupilation
similar to my former and current position combined
No stimulants, only thing I've taking recently is 100mg of zinc. I sincerely doubt it is placebo.
My injection site looks fine, nothing red or inflammation. Still hurts a bit if I touch it.
I got my test from Morocco, from a pharmacy. The brand is Androtardyl by Buyer. Is the stiff neck normal? It wasn't there this morning, so it can't be from trying to sleep in a bad position.
Negative it is not the test. I dont think. Take a shower try and sleep and calm yourself fellow anon. Damm bro. It's just hormones stop being a sadboi and be a happy boi.
are you new?
Also, gastrointestinal issues and incredibly foul smelling farts which are absolutely not normal. Not even protein farts smell this badly, jesus. Am I hipersensitive to test or something? I swear my depression went away hours away after the injection, and today I was extremely social and confident.
I went into this knowing that I wouldn't feel anything till 3 or 5 weeks into it, not sure how it could be placebo.
Whatever it takes. 5%
They're all fckin snakes anyway.
I'am gonna go for job search soon. Probably can make 2500 gross start salary. According to the the graphics and students i spoke.
It's not that bad imo. We all gotta start somewhere.
yea bro try and calm down. I got scared immediately after my third shot thought it was infected. Just stay calm and ice your neck. If it continues to happen look into the cause through logical decision making (even though you are injecting steroids)
Also where did you pinn?
oo Imma overdo it all over her pretty asian face
Ok, I'll go take a shower and put some ice in it. Is it fine to take melatonin on test?
>(even though you are injecting steroids)
I did this because I was 400ng/dl total test at 20. Always depressed and tired, thought it might be worth it giving it a try. I don't really go to the gym.
>Also where did you pinn?
Glute, on the upper right side of my right asscheek.
plus I smell bullshit. how the fuck would a doc give you a prescription and not administer it himself for the first shot? Not to mention why not call the doc instead of going onto a underground steroid website..???? The logic of these new faggs is unreal
Been depressed for years, reclused away on my room because I was always too tired and irritable, plus having gynecomastia and abnormal fat distribution (like a woman) with docs telling me having 400ng/dl at 20 is normal, I thought injecting couldn't be worse than being the rest of my life on psychiatric drugs that destroy your libido and make you feel numb.
If low test is the issue, I should be feeling like wanting to lift soon enough anyway. No?
15% body fat. 6''1 at 70kg aprox.
I got an uncle living in Morocco who knows this pharmacist from a long time, he usually sells test to people to make some money on the side. Morocco, like any other poor country makes you able to get away with stuff if you have the right contacts.
I can post a pic of the ampules if you want me to, the test is made in Germany.
Androtardyl is known to be GTG.
Should I bother bench pressing if all I want is aesthetics and not strength?
>benchpress 2plaetlmao! 5x12
>ain't feeling shit in my chest
>dumbbell bench press
>bit better but fuck me the set up is annoying
>feels weird, but can hit it, I guess
HOLY SHIT! I feel every fucking fiber of my chest when doing these things, it's fucking amazing.
Why shouldn't I just do cable flyes 5x16 till failure as opposed to useless shit bench pressing?
congrats you discovered barbel bench is fucking shit
i made good gains after discovering that and also steroids
Reminder why it's important to stay shredded
Just because I decided to take test in an attempt to treat my depression, after using a ton of antidepressants and stimulants?
I don't remember him saying it was prescribed by a doctor, and I don't think a doctor would allow him to administer injections himself. Cause for a law suit right there.
I felt bad for the poor guy for awhile, and then he had to go and say that.
my test levels were lower than yours before I hopped on, and I still busted my ass in the gym senpai. I grew up depressed and was one of those faggots that used to cut themselves in middle school. Had zero friends and saw a psychiatrist regularly for social skills and anxiety.
Literally wasted my childhood away in front of a TV playing vidya.
Got to college.
Decided I was going to quit being a bitch.
Started lifting, trying to go out more.
New town, no one knows me. Don't start a new life as a beta. That kind of shit.
Graduated high school at 130lbs 5'10.
Finished my first year of college at 5'10 175lbs.
Went from sleeping with 3 bitches total the summer before college to another 9 by the next summer.
Happy as can be. Started roiding two years ago, already much better. Good feels got better. Gains are aplenty, more women (especially the ones I went to school with) are into me, and I've doubled the number on my list plus had a steady gf (who I'm leaving now by my own choice) for the last 18 months.
tl;dr stop being a fucking faggot and blaming your lack of motivation and will to be a better human on your hormones. You want to be better? Then BE better. The hormones won't do that. You will.
PS: For god sakes if you're gonna fucking roid, AT LEAST LIFT BEBBY'S FIRST DUMBBELL
Fuck you for making me type that.
There you go, looks blurry as hell because the webcam is shit. The etiquette basically says ''Androtardyl (r) symbol, Enanthate De Testosterone 250mg'' 1ml, there's also a lote number in each.
flat bb bench is shit for filling out the chest.
I will say this much it's a fantastic starting point for building the lower fibers of the chest.
Incline hammer strength
Are all top tier replacements to flat barbell bench
You're assuming a ton of shit about me, projecting your own experiences. I've been to the gym in the past, I've tried a ton of different diets and got myself to school after 5 years of social reclusion, even forced myself to make friends which I did. Guess what, I was still feeling like shit everynight, with no energy to do anything, just falling behind again because I can't simply stop feeling depersonalised, lethargic and irritable.
You know shit about my life to be making those judgements, I used to be very social and outgoing before hitting puberty. Once my fucking hormones started revolting all over the pleace, the gynecomastia and pear-shaped body quickly followed a fucking depression which I have not been able to lift with anything you fucking anons say. No exercise, no meditation, no diets or supplements.
Jesus man, I been considering suicide everynight for the last couple years, who the fuck cares if I die from test anyway? Might as well enjoy life while I have it. Shit.
You do know test doesn't solve depression right? Even if you are low test (you are just below average at 400 so not low) it's usually the placebo effect mixed with a change in lifestyle by going to the gym that helps not the actual test
No, I don't. Everywhere I read says testosterone causes an increase in confidence, well being, motivation, cognitive function and energy levels, plus faster recovery.
Have you even tried test dude?
Post any responses into the new bread.
>blaming your hormones for your shit-tier willpower
It literally takes no effort whatsoever to simply tell yourself today is gonna be a good day. Like someone else said last bread, you'd be surprised how much impact a positive attitude will actually have on your life.
Quit being a faggot and learn to be a man.
You want your life to be better, do you not?
Guess what. Injecting hormones won't fix your motivation issues. That has to come from you.
I still have borderline autistic social skills and damn near crippling social anxiety and paranoia.
Your number one mistake from the sound of things is that you've already given up.
Sure, you shot up some test hoping it'll fix things, but in reality, you don't think that anything will fix your problems and if you've been plotting suicide, you probably wish you were just dead already.
I'm not trying to be rude or an absolute dick, but you seriously need to grow up and put your big boy pants on. You're depressed. Boohoo, go lift some weights like the fucking animal you are and become a monster. You'd be surprised what anger and depression can channel into a workout.
You are man. You are genetically designed to be the alpha of your species. The provider. The soldier. The warrior. Protector.
You name it, it's your responsibility.
Quit popping roids until you learn how to set foot into a gym regularly.
Stop blaming shit like your hormones for your own failures and shortcomings. Your hardest life lesson is this: Our lives are what we make of them. If you want to be great, you can become great.
It's literally a mindset.
400ng/dl is not low test at all. That's just below average. Mine was sub-200, and I wasn't even as big of a fuck up as you.
Idgaf if you think I'm projecting.
You're the sole reason for your fuck ups. Until you quit blaming other things for it, you'll never get better. Accept responsibility and set out to be better, anon.
>You are man. You are genetically designed to be the alpha of your species. The provider. The soldier. The warrior. Protector.
You name it, it's your responsibility.
not to get involved in this back and forth, but I actually get into this shit. When I'm on cycle I fucking love being a man. I see men apologizing for being masculine and I just laugh. Women bitch about men spreading their legs on the subway and blame men for all of their problems, and I'll keep holding doors and giving old women my seat on the train.
I'm a fucking man and I'm not sorry. I love when women who act like they should hate this get off on it. Like tumbrl girls who talk about the wage gap in normal conversation. And then they fucking love masculinity.
Point is being on test does make you feel like a man, the extra testosterone makes you less vulnerable to stress (cortisol) and just makes you feel fucking golden. Anyone telling me test is all placebo is full of shit.
>40% shift work bonus
It means either you get an additional €1288/month for working shift or that your salary is bumped 40% when you work outside of normal hours.
€3200 / 4 weeks:
Week 1: €800 (normal 8-16 hours)
Week 2: €800 + €320 (15-23, which activates 40% bonus)
Week 3: €800 (normal 8-16 hours)
Week 4: €800 + €320
Test really makes you instant alpha, even if you a beta sperglord usually. All that stupid social anxiety just goes away, you can look at people in the eyes without any issues at all and you're full of optimism and will to do stuff.