Cheating Frauds General
>going to court (maybe) Edition
honestly just watch the video right before you do them, they're super simple
I use regular plates, 10s fyi
not sleeping on it, lu raises, and switching from 3x5 to 5/3/1 made my shoulder feel a lot better
btw meps only ever does the normal opioid/benzo/weed/etc tests
this, although I mentioned I might try doing a1/b2/c1/x/a2/b1/c2/x to separate heavy deads from heavy squats so I can put 100% into both
like 1 in 6-8 from what I saw and the time they spent around us deployed
exactly my line of thinking, upper back and arms but no chest because I categorically refuse to shave off my chest hair
SET FOR LIFE
depending on how lewd and your pillw gfs age it could lol
when I brosplit I usually just hit everything in 5 or six days. Some weeks I'll do combined arms, others I'll have a separate bis and tris workout.
Back when I did madcow, I did the typical 3 days madcow split with 3-4 accessories on the main stressor for that workout i.e. chest accessories plus some back on bench/row day, trap and delt work on OHP/Deads day, and Legs on Wednesday since it's the lighter squat day for the week.
Then I'd do other accessories on shit I needed extra work on Tuesday/Thursday and occasionally Saturday.
Fucking loved that split and saw excellent results.
>inb4 she sues yolo for rape without him knowing in advance
ohrly? I read somewhere they test the majority of applicants for one specific drug, 1/100 or something on a7 panel, and 1/1000 for the full 10. I wanna say it was an official Navy site.
fbi pls go
Always trim body w/ 1 guard.
Such a perfect length for everything.
Found out that the record for bench in the new gym is 130Kg
What'd I just bench the other day out of interest as to what I could max? 105?
This shit is gonna be easy lel
my 3-day routine is pretty much the first block, just slightly more volume on the accessories
and all the drug shit is just my own personal experience, I got 9-paneled before going to meps and I'm assuming the same there
but honestly you should be completely off everything before you ship out anyway, or is this just the initial shit to get you depped in
wtf, is that a vacuum bag?
I trim pits and pubes to a 1 with a little edge dressing around the tower of power and completely clean on the coinpurse
prob going to get my back lasered at some point down the road, chem can attest to the amount of body hair I've got going on
gonna see if I can hit 6-7@315 then 4pl8 4x6 chest dips
>prob going to get my back lasered at some point down the road, chem can attest to the amount of body hair I've got going on
I probably will too. It's not bad now just a few stray hairs on my traps and the back of my neck easy to hit with a razor. But it would be nice to not have to do it anymore.
I know someone who got their neck done right up to their jaw so they never have to shave again. That would be nice AF but probably pricey.
Fun fact: some places offer lifetime warranty on hair removal so should it regrow (say because of blasting) you can go back and have it touched up free of charge.
Is Tren even a recommend first roid? Also what's a good starting dosage per week?
I actually ship out to boot in May.
I'm not doing anything other than cruising right now, and don't want to waste money on the kind of blast I have planned if I'm gonna lose all my gains at boot. Trying to see how this new job I got goes because if I have a solid paycheck, I don't want to leave for shit pay with the military as much. As much as I've always wanted to join up, money is a huge part of life, and it really bums me out I won't be able to juice my first two years because of the fucking lengthy ass Nuke school.
just make sure that you give her the yolodrol if you end up getting sentenced to jail time. It's already statutory rape so I mean it's not like it can't get any worse.
>taking yolodrol for baby gains
I just don't know if I trust some anon with $60 lol
>I was over my ex in 3 days after 3 years of dating.
It sounds like you did the dumping. And before dumping her, there was a lot of time for thinking + emotional detachment.
The girl you're talking about is the dumpee. They didn't have the time to detach, so it takes longer obviously.
Kinda sounds like me and my lady. I've been talking about leaving her for weeks.
Get really fucking angry with her over small shit easily now.
Already talking to other girls.
Always pissed off at her because she has a genuinely bitchy attitude towards me for literally no reason.
it's my trip at countermail dot com
mine's like bottom of my shoulderblades to almost the neckline and across to the backs of both shoulders but not super dense, still would be nice to not need to have someone shave it or get it waxed
oh jesus fucking christ you're a nuke
ABORT ABORT ABORT
god damn dude the only way it'd be worth it is like something ct preferrably ctn so you can make six figures once you get out with that sweet experience + clearance
I have no clue where to get gear.
How'd u guys go about it.
is the nuclear power program really that fucking bad?
I figured it was good because of all the credits you get towards college + sign on bonus every contract + bonus nuke pay and automatic e4 after A school plus clearance and shit.
Highly recommend it
>inb4 shill claim
just think about why, despite reduced military funding and a still shaky economy they're offering those kinds of bonuses for nukes
it's because the fucking school is godawful and the job is fucking miserable shit that will have you suicidal in months of hitting your first ship
ctn : cryptologic technician, network
go read up about that shit, if you can make nuke you can make ctn or at least another ct field, specifically research the civilian parallels because you do your 4 or 6 and get out of those fields then go work for the nsa or one of their contractors or pretty much any corporation and make out like a fucking bandit
well fuck. I've been in dep since June of last summer. Let me do some reading, and I'll have to see if switching is even an option for me at this point.
I've honestly been really tempted to just cut it and go apply with the army 'cause dat der ranger school, but all my army buddies advised against it lol.
Hey fraudsters, I think I fucked up.
I just started a beginner cycle of 400mg test per week but after the second pin I am already feeling sore near my left nip.
It's possible that I messed up and injected subq, could that cause an estrogen spike? Or am I just extremely susceptible to est?
I'm not as lean as I should be, around 14% probably, can 4% really make that much of a difference?
I'm panicking a bit now and I just took 500mg of dnp. Should I drop down to 200mg per week (+30mg var ed) and go on a starvation diet + dnp for the next fortnight?
i think you should manage your estro levels with some AI and finish your cycle.
it might just be your brain playing tricks on you that makes your nip feel sore.
dont go crazy and OD on the AI just because your nip is a bit sore!
until you swear in and put your thumbprint on that shit to e-sign it, there's always options
I means meps and your recruiters can get as pissy and flap their hands around all they want but they can't actually do shit to you
also if you do some dumb shit like get a fucking option 40 contract that doesn't have 35q in front of it I will seriously find you and slap you until MY fucking ears start ringing
How exactly do I go about measuring my dosage of dianabol and test per week, also won't I burn out if I start mixing?
The person you buy from will tell you the strength of everything. For example 10 ml test e @250 mg/ml or each dbol pill is 20 mg
So you can trust they are telling the truth or get it tested yourself and find out
No dbol on your first test cycle is fine
holy fuck dude
If it's test e or cyp then it hasn't even had time to kick in.
Calm the fuck down before you kill yourself.
It's most likely your imagination, but go ahead and start running your AI low dose eod or e3d and see if it clears up, gets worse, or stays the same.
You shouldn't even get a hint of crazy estro levels until around 3-4 weeks desu.
breh i don't want any breadsticks. pls no
Okay, I wasn't sure if I could be in DEP for over a year if my boot were to get pushed back again because of a job change.
Lel these cryptologic jobs are really high up on your list of top tier jobs, eh?
No, this is a very common beginner cycle.
Dbol is usually in capsule or tab form. I recommend 40mg your first week and then 3 @ 60mg, 4 weeks off, and then 9-12 hit another 4 weeks @60mg.
Or if you do 16 weeks, do the dbol for 6 weeks, take 4 weeks off, and then 6 weeks of dbol.
>Wasn't sure the quality tho
Don't get no better.
Thanks guys, I had sore nips during puberty so I am pretty terrified of gyno and wouldn't be surprised to find I'm susceptible.
I'm on the following
400mg test e per week
30mg anavar per day
12.5mg aromasin every other day (been upping it over the weekend though)
10mg nolvadex per day (starting just now)
In my panic I've taken 50mg of aromasin today. If the gyno is my mind playing tricks on me I should start experiencing low estrogen sides tomorrow?
50MG? bruh... that seems a little high lol.
i actually hate reddit desu. I've only been there a few times to look at r/theredpill , sst. and dnm
Shiiiit, big leagues now. Thanks for the feedback.
What where people's reactions like when you did your first cycle?
I'm still natty and put on a decent amount of size in the past couple of years and i already get unwanted attention from colleagues about my muscles every time i wear a tshirt
planning on doing my first cycle soon
Came off test/tren blast on 11th December
Been cruising 250 test E/ week ever since
Fuck I hate this. Going from tren blast to test cruise is like going from test to natty again.
How long before I can blast tren again? Think I'm gonna start again in February, 2 months off is enough right?
People immediately suspected me of 'roids because I blew up like a fucking blimp. 165-195lbs between January and March 2014.
Looked clean af. After I fucked up my ride, it put out for awhile, and I didn't PCT or anything so I lost most everything. Then when I finally started again, the woman I was seeing was a gains goblin and always wanted me to skip and see her, so my lifting schedule was inconsistent af up until very recently. I'm finally starting to show some results again, and I'm just cruising atm. When I finally get that tren blast going again, I'm gonna be fucking excited as hell.
bruh you might be killt
I don't think you're ever supposed to start with 2 caps day one, unless you're a long time DNP veteran
I always start with 1 for 4 days cause dangerous af
And anytime I take more than 1 cap, I always split the dosages cause that shit hits hard.
Stay cool, drink a fuckton of water/gatorade, and don't die anon.
>pls be troll
Yeah, it was pretty fucking awesome lol. Everyone could see the difference and people were like wtf.
The fucking icing on the cake was seeing this chick I hella crushed on in middle school. She fucked me over to go date some faggot and ended up with him for 5 years and shit, living in florida after graduation.
This was the first time I'd seen her in probably 2 or 3 years.
We were going to a party and shit, and her new bf was on the couch and they were talking but she was standing up facing me.
>take off jacket
>immediately notice her head jerk my direction
>she stops speaking mid-sentence and says holy shit
>bf goes "what is it?"
felt good bruh cause that bitch was fine as hell
Not a troll, I took some in November for a couple of weeks. I took a double dose on day 5 or so and found it to be very unpleasant but that was it. I have no dnp in my blood right now so the effect should not be as bad, I will max out at 500mg and rapidly fall away over the next few days to a negligible level as I won't replenish it. I am only worried about the interaction of low est with dnp, however I can feel my nip even now so the gyno is not necessarily a figment of my imagination.
You can literally start using the dnp whenever you want.
Like I suggested earlier though, I suggest using a cruise dose of test for muscle maintenance. It's your body tho. Do waht you want.
You should be fine bruh. Just do what you have to on DNP and make sure you take that AI. 12.5 mg asin eod or e3d
They are not related at all so I don't see why you can't even use it while on pct
You should use DNP for the weeks leading up to the end of your cycle to help preserve even more muscle
Not much. I'm 6'4 so it takes a lot to look big. Went from 225 to 260 and people said I looked a little fuller. Ex never made comments because she's a cunt.
I get more comments now at a lean 215-220 than I did heavier. People think I weigh 275 or so, but I'm super top heavy,
210 @ 5'11 right now. 12-15% bodyfat and like 3 or so months into this cycle
I think I wanna cut when I hit 225 or something like that.
I want to do this using minimal $$ tho cause broke college student.
What do you guys suggest? And is PCT going to affect my cut? (Should I wait a bit after PCT to cut?)
Should I just drop to 250mg/wk and cut then and not PCT?
bro... why are you not BnCing.
>tfw you 'mire someone only to find out your 'mires were misplaced
I recommend running at least a cruise dose on any cut for maintaining muscle. Then when you're down to a worthy level of shred, blast another bulk.
I'll post progress pics and my friends will comment saying I look like an evangelion. Cool.
This seems like a good idea. Will probably cut in a few weeks and then get back on a bulk in time for tryouts at a 4 year university. I guess PCT in the summer ish. Gonna be on cycle for like 9mo this way though
If I make tryouts then I'll get on a team that does cheer competitions and test for drugs and shit and I can't afford to get kicked off and lose my scholarship
Dose though and whether it's crystal or powder
Eg 2 caps for me is actually 400mg of powder
So fuck all
yeah, dino only sells crystal now so that's what I'm on atm. Day 13 atm, day 8 of 500mg. Feel like fucking death constantly and can't stop sweating. Tf is sleep anymore. All the goddamn puddles of sweat wake me up.
>400mg of powder
>So fuck all
Honestly 400mg is like the borderline for me. Any more and I actually have to deal with sides other than "man its kinda hot after I drink this coffee".
This is why I would prefer something like 200-250 for 2 weeks every other month
Spread it out more
Sure you aren't going to get shredded in 2 weeks like with higher doses, but you also won't want to die the whole time
Might switch to prop. Might come off completely. Not sure.
See above reply. I think I'd know a couple days in advance when the tests are (that's what it's like at my school now except cheerleaders don't get tested anymore). Prop would be out of my system in under a week I'd imagine. I have no idea right now when the testing is though.
yeah, makes sense. If my education and future were resting on to roid or not to roid, I think I'd be really careful not to fuck it up.
tinder has lots of wonderful little sluts on it for the shredded /fraud/izen
I'm a master of almost fucking things up
Prop would be my best bet in roiding without getting caught right? I'd stick around 500/wk.
What do Olympic and other top level athletes use?
Idk you're asking stupid questions.
Butch just dropped shit off and didn't even knock on the door. Just texted saying "shits at the door". Walked out and saw her pull away lmao
No fucking balls. When she texts back in a week and wants to fuck I'll do it sporadically. In a month when she wants to give it a shot I'll say give what a shot u have a gf.
I'd say prop and if you ever run tren, ace. Just to play it safe.
Most pros cycle in the off-season and stay relatively hormone free during the regular season. It depends on how frequently they test cheerleaders in NCAA level competitions I guess.
Just keep in mind you're looking at around a week to two weeks with both compounds.
Put her in her place brah. I hate bitches that pull shit like that.
If she hits you up in a week, tell her you'll fuck and set it for the next day or two.
Then don't talk to her for a week.
Slap her with some verbal abuse when you finally respond to her pleading messages.
>mfw I'm an absolute madman and going to do a dnp cut in may
live in a pretty cold country so it will probably only be around 15-20 celsius but still
I've obviously missed part of the story
Last I saw you admitted you had the feels and wanted to try date fwb
holy jesus. This bitch went batshit crazy over a girl you aren't even fucking. Like I'm failing to see how any of this is your fault
>bimbo, i can't do this. I have feelings for john still, and you live with your ex.
>oh, don't worry babe. John is fucking my ex so there's nothing going on at my place.
>i said john and my ex are fucking. you didn't know?
>fuck you bimbo. i don't ever want to see you again
>deletes and blocks from social media because it's bimbos fault their exes are fucking
>leaves belongings on doorstep so she doesn't have to see bimbo and be tempted to revenge fuck him over the whole mess
>keeps number just in-case she wants to fuck him in a week when her anger and fear of feelings for bimbo subside
literally women in a nutshell. That's probably her thought process.
Yeah she said okay last night and then changed her mind earlier.
My ex gf is fucking my fuckbuddy's ex bf. My fuckbuddy did not know this. My fuckbuddy seems to still have feelings for her ex. She also said she couldn't handle seeing me while I still room with my ex (we're poor). My reply was "my ex is fucking yours, don't worry about it" right after she'd admitted to feeling bitter about her breakup.
I don't feel super bad. Mostly upset I dint get to fuck hot Asian pussy.
Yea I guess here in may it isn't too cold either
I mean in a nutshell.
Probably it stung hearing that from a guy you're starting to like about a guy you used to/ still love? Idk like I said earlier I was over that shit in days recently.
I really can't be too bothered by it. She's showing true colors.
What a mess of a human being
Pretty clear now why she likes to be abused in bed
I get that you living with your ex could also be a warning for her. But her being so suspicious of you living with her is a big warning too. She is probably the type of girl who gets upset if you went out drinking with friends and one or two of them are girls
Could be. This is also the girl who is/was pressuring me to find other holes to fill.
I hope she hits me up so I can humiliate her. Also I toms my ex to leave that shit alone and she just wouldn't.
That might be so. Don't some get tested randomly year round though?
Maybe I'll just blast in the offseason then. Maybe they'll let us know when they test and I can work around that. I'm sure they don't test more than once a semester and I'm sure they only test a few athletes. I'll get something figured out
1 week on lads
Really feel like I need to up the calories. Ive been sorta lazy with diets and been going to Mcd's accross the street
Really liking these anavar pumps tho
She claims no. They met through to set but before they'd gone on a date I was like "yo that's my fb's ex. Please be a decent person and just leave it. That'll cause drama for the actual shit I have going".
To which her reply was "I don't tell you who you can and can't fuck". So that was shitty, and seems probably vindictive only because I was getting regular pussy with my girl and she kept getting flaked on.
I'm not saying I don't have responsibility here though. I'm mean, overbearing and a jerk 100% of the time.
You forgot the no homo
Heres more jaw for your fap sesh
my favorite thing
I was kidding, but I love to see people get riled up over nothing
Still getting riled up.
Looks like I've found new bait for the roid threads.
>shit progress because I'm only eating 3000 calories on a heavy cycle
>actually eat more(lots of protein, carbs as low as I can get, like 100g on 3500-4000+ calories, good carbs like lentils and mashed root vegetables)
>get insane water retention and puffiness
FUCK GENETICS I JUST CAN'T WIN
>get some clen, decide to try it
>"Hmm, starting with 20 mcg seems safe"
>can't stop shaking, taken me twice the time to type this as normal
>heart over 200 bpm
>had to leave gym early, nearly passed out
>vision going black
Jesus Christ am I going to be okay?
I was debating taking my EC stack but said no to it at the last minute thank god
I really need to study but I really want to read the psmf book and get a good grasp on what everything looks like functionally as far as meals, timing, etc goes
you might have to be discharged from dep and redo certain portions of shit
also yes, crypto jobs are high demand high pay across the board in almost every kind of large business or government agency you can imagine
hospitals cant unkill you.
I suggest drinking lots of water and not taking anymore clen lol. might be good to try and relax and maybe avoid sugary food until your heart stops wanking itself to death. if you did this every day for 2 years you would end up like Zyzz
Feel like I'm getting forced out of my job.
>Spend a couple of minutes talking to a qt that came in today
>Coworker mentions she had to redo all my work because it wasn't done "right," and that I don't pull my weight because I get distracted too easily
>Literally just didn't straighten something stupid, no need to redo all of the work
>Clock out, in a rather irritable mood because another coworker ran late and prevented me from leaving
>Take a nap
>Wake up to 3 shifts being deleted
Pretty sure this all stems back to me complaining about that girl. Before that, didn't have issues with anyone at work.
I feel like a lot of it comes down to the fact that I'll wait until the last minute to do a lot of things unless it requires urgency.
>Need to restock something?
Eh, the stuff is clearly visible from a distance. Won't restock it until I leave so I don't have to do it twice.
It's a fucking fast food job but coworkers complain I don't care. And I don't get it because my procrastination doesn't impact anyone but me.
In the process. Just going to bail once I find something. Don't need this shit; thankfully I have good references from school and past employment.
Oh I get this at work too. All but one of my coworkers are men, and the only female I swear has munchausens so there's always an issue and it's always about her.
She just dislikes me because I call her out on her shit. She even admitted to a coworker "she makes me feel stupid" so he replied "stop saying stupid shit".
You gotta either put them in their place and realize your way is more efficient if it costs the same/less money to do that same work or find new work. If you're costing people money, switch it up.
fairly sure you could get someone strung up by their thumbs for reprisals against you because you reported a case of sexual harassment which they barely even pretended to correct
probably not worth doing shit about, but there is an opportunity there for the properly motivated individual
if there's shit to be done I'll bust my ass, work hard AND smart to get shit done correctly as fast as possible with the least amount of wasted effort
but once I'm done what I have to do you can kiss my fucking pasty white hairy ass if you think I'm doing extra shit just because I'm better than fuckstick mcgee at my job
I call it constructive laziness, I get shit done better and faster than anyone else so I can fuck off, kick my feet up, and make fun of everybody else that's slower than me
I may have had some personality conflicts with the majority of my senior leadership while I was in
I do this shit too. I finish quick and efficiently then if I want to impress people I ask for more work or go Bovey and beyond. Normally I just sit there looking like I'm working but I'm just chilling out
This is why my coworker dislikes me some day. Other days it's because she's constantly in conflict with wanting to fuck me. She's like fit white Guy's.
A job that takes her three hours, like a planogram takes me 45 minutes.
Recently I went back and redid her work. She arranged our fridge but forget to rotate and check dates. I had to throw out half our inventory in the fridge because it had expired.
Fucked them up
Surely your state has branches of government specifically for settling this sort of shit?
Contact them and show how they've cut your shifts after not even trying to resolve the sexual harassment issue
Just gotta have the motivation and confidence dude
Last time I got a chat from the general manger about breaking company policy the conversation ended with her trying to stop me quitting and promising to look the other way when I wanted to break policy of it meant I kept pumping out the volume of work I do
kek every vet will understand this
You guys ever heard of anybody getting gyno on SARMs?
Also, where do you normally get your SERMs?
Same place you get your other gear?
anyone have experience being low test and miserable and then starting roids/trt?
i am completely miserable at 280ng dl testosterone and 36.6 pg/ml estradiol. no sex drive, always completely exhausted, completely lethargic to everything, cant focus, etc..
will going on testosterone actually turn me around or no? I'm getting it in around a week, i'm literally just going to kill myself if it doesn't help, i can't live like this. no energy to do anything, even minor household chores are torture because i have 0 energy.
i hear people say it makes a big difference, but is it possible on the scale of what i am talking about?
from completely miserable and unable to continue living, to normally functional and energetic?
Gyno on SARMs is very possible. Despite what most people think gyno isn't simply caused by high estrogen it can also be caused by an off balance T:E ratio. SARMs are suppressive on T levels which can throw off that balance causing gyno in some individuals.
Go pharma for SERMs, Indian generics are fine.
If your going to be running a SERM to prevent gyno while your running a SARM I suggest 30mg of raloxifene/day. No significant sides, cheap and very effective.
i've heard it really does make a huge difference. if you're getting TRT you're probably going to feel like a man in the first time in years. how old are you with that level of test?
So fucking stupid and ignorant. *Yes* its "safe" in the sense that its not going to kill you; but no, it is not safe in the sense that you may have to take a weekly shot FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE, and may be infertile FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE.
So shortsighted and stupid, get fucked.
Did you start with Endo-prescribed trt or hop right into self-medicated gear? I'm cuurently at around 220 ng/dl at 20 years old and I really feel like I'm missing out on some serious improvement, especially since i'm in collegiate athletics
i'm 18 years old. i remember being happy and energetic as a kid, but when i hit puberty it all went down hill. I just got gyno surgery a few days ago for my massive gyno presumably caused by my low test and high estrogen.
i've never felt "like a man" honestly, since i just went from being a pre puberty kid to a low test fag.
As opposed to living with low test? I'd rather inject myself weekly than live with low test and pop some SSRIs or benzos. Its incredibly safe at trt doses. Its by far one of the safest drugs you can be prescribed.
I tried going through an endo but I got dicked around and was sick of paying hundreds of dollars for 5 minutes of the doctors time so I said fuck it and started self-TRT. Loved it. Two months later I was doing babbys first blast and haven't looked back since.
you sound the exact same as me
do you think your finished puberty? i feel like im still a few years behind my peers.. i mean in terms of facial/body hair, deepening of voice, adams apple, prominent body odour, acne etc.. i have none of those things and it seems like everybody else does
>test within reference range for a 18-40 year old man
>you think he'll be infertile
tell me i'm wrong, its a *massive* risk. Maybe not to body, but to lifestyle
It's safe as in you're bringing yourself up to natural levels, so there is no danger. It is not safe, as in your body will most likely permanently not let you make it again. Better hope you got a steady job, great insurance, and nothing happens to modern society or you'll go from low t to zero t.
same here, going to get my shit tested soon because i'm sick of living like this
18 years old, patchy beard, little/no sex drive, weak voice, puffy nips but no lumpy/hard gyno lumps as far as i can tell, ~15% bf
280 at 18 is definitely fucked. get that test, you will feel better guaranteed. that low of a level is a problem, and you'll have it solved by the TRT. congrats bro, you're going to make it
If he has no fucking desire to live, it's the smart decision to attempt endo/self TRT rather than ending it you stupid fuck. Gear can save lives if it's not abused, and the risks are incredibly minimal if you're smart about it.
I'm honestly just trying to save young, stupid peoples lives here. Being 280 at 18 is within normal range. Eating healthy fats, getting plenty of vitamin d, and lifting *heavy* is going to bring you to ~500 at least. You're going to literally require a shot every fucking day for the rest of your life listening to these fucking idiots.
I'm a huge fan of steroids, but self perscribed TRT is fucking dumb as shit because the length of time on cycle is going to wreck you, literally forever, especially at that age. If you are within ref range, your balls are WORKING.
People need to understand the real risks of long term cycles/trt. The risks are especially dangerous if under 26 and if over 35.
That was a really helpful reply, thank you.
Reason I ask is soon I'll be going on a cycle of Sarms S22 forte (basically ostarine+) and CJC1295/Ipamorelin.
It's prescribed by a doctor which is cool and I asked him about gyno and he said to just say if it develops and we'll go from there, I'm shitscared of self medicating with a SERM but can you just buy them at a chemist?
I'm in Australia too.
I'm getting bloodwork done before I start as well. On TB500 and pegMGF right now but I doubt they'll affect my T/E at all.
Is there a way to know if gyno is "coming on" so I can stop usage and scale back? If I stop, how long do you normally wait before starting SARMs again?
Risks are not minimal, you clearly dont know what you're talking about. Needing injections for life/infertility is almost certain with self-prescribed trt.
Id just cycle hard, maybe itll pull you out of your slump because 280 at 18 means your nutsack is working.
You have no proof or scientific basis for what you're saying. Nobody advised self prescribed to begin with and advising people to AVOID medical treatment for their disorders is NOT SAFE. Thats my final word on it.
His test levels are only just above where you would be prescribed TRT. 30 lower and he would get it
How is it a massive risk? It's not a risk to health. There is only risk of getting caught if you walk around talking about your gear while you have it on you
Permanent shutdown does not occur
Are you a sportsperson or are you seeing one of them anti-aging clinic doctors?
You can't buy SERMs from within Australia without a script and your not getting a script unless you already have gyno.
However you can buy SERMs online and legally import them into Australia.
Search AllDayChemist, it's an online indian pharmacy that ships to Australia. Pls no ban mods, everything ADC sells is legal.
SERMs are relatively very safe, especially raloxifene. You have nothing to worry about self medicating.
Symptoms of gyno are pretty easy to spot, if your nipples begin having any of the following symptoms then it's safe to say you should come off or increase your SERM dosage; tenderness, itchyness, puffyness or if you feel a lump under the nipple.
PS: please don't start playing with your nipples constantly to check for gyno or you're going to give yourself gyno.
Seeing these guys.
They're pretty good actually, I'm getting stuff from them because I have injuries that fucked me up and not only did I lose my gains but was kept out of the gym by injuries that would refuse to fuck off.
Was able to do lat pulldowns yesterday for the first time without pain after 6 weeks on tb500 which is pretty cool. This next cycle is really to just "catch up" on everything I would have missed.
I'm assuming the dosage is alright to avoid sides (25 units per day on the insulin syringe), it's the weeks on it that give me grief. The guys there said people go on them for as long as 20 weeks and I'm thinking "faaaark". I was imagining more like 6-8
Anybody here got any experience with it?
How was it?
10mgs is a lot I'm assuming lgd. I'm thinking 3-5mgs using DAA throughout if I can find some info on whether thats safe on DAA.
As a cycle, not as a trt substitute. I'll get on that trt flow once I move out of my parents house or my test levels drop further for the doc to put me on.
What's /fraud/'s opinion on short cycles? Was thinking, for my first, to run test prop 100mg EOD for 6 weeks. Sure would get me used to pinning I figure. My main fear is test shutdown and never returning back to normal. I suppose I could run HCG if doing longer cycles.
You think so? I figured it would be better than nothing and I could bounce back relatively quick. It's either that or test e for 12 weeks. I'm reading that isn't too harsh either.
man, my skin is terrible. absolutely awful genes. breaking out like crazy.
making the switch from accutane to doxycycline now and going through the same initial breakout process that happens with acne meds
I wonder if any sarms would give me relief? open to ideas. I'd run accutane and doxycycline together but apparently that wombo combo will give you insane inter-cranial hypertension and cause le aneurysm or something lol
Like cheer said, the female hormones panel and there should be a section where you can put you're male so they switch the reference ranges for you.
How long should I wait after my cycle is over to dnp cut? 9w left (of 24) and I'm like 18% and it feels bad.
If your levels are not low enough for TRT, you can hop on some LGD and get your levels checked again, it wont show up in the test, and wont fiddle with LH/FSH but it'll suppress test down without anything looking fishy.
skin is a mystery to me
as I understand it it's an organ unto itself that just works great for some people and worse for others
some people can eat like total shit and never get a zit
other people can be vegan/keto/paleo wjatever the fuck works best and be pizza faced AND at low bodyfat
I'm guessing when running gear your diet changes to beyond eating 500 cals more a day to gain muscle.
Are there any guidelines at all on how much you alter it? I'd be interested to read it.
I'm guessing some of you when on a bulk with gear would eat like sumo wrestlers.
In my experience, don't worry too much about changing your diet besides eating more protein
I fell for the 'gear can let you eat like fatlifts and stay lean' meme and gained way too much fat
Only consider eating slightly more protons as gear allows your body to funnel more of it into muscle for recovery aka mo gainz
holy fucking christ I almost wish I had taken a break from studying in time to catch that fuckwit talking about how 280ng/dl test is normal reference range for an 18 year old and bro you can totally double your levels just by slightly changing diet and lifting heavier, bro you'll be stuck pinning EVERY DAY for the REST OF YOUR LIFE if you do listen to these fucking idiots and use steroids
I mean I'm totally a huge fan despite not knowing a motherfucking thing about what I'm word-vomiting liquid diarrhea about, but nah man that shit will totally WRECK YOU like LITERALLY FOREVER
oh my fucking GOD I want to fucking slap the stupid out of this nigger but I'm pretty sure it'd be like trying to slap the iron out of a 45lb plate without any of the redeeming factors like being fucking hilarious to watch
I'm going to get a fucking whiteboard and start taking down down all the stupid motherfucking things I need to write fuck-off huge tl;dr rants about with like talking points and citations and shit
Natty here; 173lbs currently and 153 lbs on stage. I'm thinking about running my first cycle 500mg test e, but there's also a show coming up I want to compete in. Can I use test E going into my competition? Will it have a good re-comping effect on me?
Planning to do classic physique as opposed to actual bbing.
>double your levels just by slightly changing diet and lifting heavier,
All this shit we read about "raise test naturally!" annoys me now, you know the readers want to make more gains but they won't just buy some fucking test and inject it.
Stuff that alters test (getting horny, winning a fight, eating stuff) is all really transient, I wish these people got it.
>inb4 brick an heros because cant take anons stupidity any longer
Tren is more up your alley for recomping
If you wanna lean and out get bigger for show try
100mg var ed
What kind of blood levels does 500mg Test E get up to?
E3D schedule seems to peak at 82.9mg/day and min at 60.9mg/day using the steroid graph thingy.
I've read that a young healthy male would produce 6-7mg per day.
So thats more than 10x
But people sat 250mg will put your on the upper end of natty range, so this isn't making sense desu.
What you need to understand is that testosterone in the blood is measured in terms of "ng/dL" or nanograms per decaliter. The body undergoes several reactions when injecting an exogenous compound and converting to active test in the blood.
SInce i'm certain you're not very well versed in science, let's just put it this way. A 'normal' or 'physiological' range of testosterone is between 350-1150 ng/dL. A supraphysiological level then is anything above that threshold. When getting bloodwork done during cycle you just want your number anywhere above that 1150 mark.
S-sorry, I'm a newb senpai.
Would you advise a newbie cycler to use test and eq for an upcoming show, assuming he understands how to prep & everything already? Or just skip the show altogether and just focus on gaining with test?
you have so much reading to do about everything it isn't even funny, and I should've been in bed like 2 hours ago so gl with that
I'm going to have a fucking aneurysm from staring at some of the mind-boggling shit people post here and bleed into my fucking brain
dose response is a curve, not a straight line
Why not? I mean EQ can cause anxiety in some people but if it works for you, you will look very good given that you diet correctly. Big capped thick delts witb veins running down them, thick traps, etc. Just test alone doesn't give the crazy roid look of the delt caps/traps, aka screaming to everyone I AM SO ANDROGENIC AHHHH
I've done my homework on esters and everything, I know test e retains more water and EQ takes forever to kick in due to its longer ester.
Var I literally know nothing about other than the fact that it's the most faked substance.
I was wondering if you can just try to be more unconventional with gear use.
Var as I understand it somehow dries you out further via some interaction with cortisol (which will cause bloating) and also adds to the overall 'pop'
also keeps you strong as fugg in prep when you're eating like a rodent
There are a lot of things where I'm becoming convinced people have no idea.
I'm reading about PEG-MGF for instance and the suggested dosages range from injecting it intra-muscularly immediately after working out, to only injecting it sub q on non-training days.
One guy even suggests dividing it up into 20 "mini doses" and injecting it all over the muscle you want to grow into.
To make it even better, all 3 can suggest that the other two ideas are absolutely wrong things to do and you'll waste the injection.
You just want to say after a while to these people "if you don't know and you're just pulling it out of your ass, can you just say? Or if you know, tell us why you know".
Makes you shake your head, I tell you what.
I tried tren and didn't die; just makes it easy as fuck to go hypoglycemic and you can be tired as balls but still only
manage to get 4hrs of sleep... what the fuck tren? where is the logic in this; it's like you're body is fighting the urge to stay passed out despite being so sleepy
Lol sounds magical. A lot of my mates claim tren is the golden nugget; that even somehow girls get hornier around them during tren.
But man, I'm 23 and about to graduate college. I'd rather save tren for when I'm more advanced and for a bigger show. I'm just getting my feet wet.
I sorta thought that but I'll put my cards on the table and say I haven't got a clue.
I'll see what Brick thinks though.
Ok well if your show is in april we need short esters first off. So eq is out of the question. Tbh I would just try tren. Maybe first month run it low to feel out the hypoglycemia (youll feel it) and get on a kinda normal tren sleep schedule. Also this will ensure prolactin doesn't go crazy right away.
So try this
month 1 350tren/500 test
month 2 350 tren/500 test
month 3 500 tren/250 test
month of show 750 tren/250 test
you'll be an animal
lol, this is what my parents said about my giant ass gyno when i was 17. keep in mind they are somehow surgeons. "you're way too young right now. let's see how it is when you're 25."
fuck those retards, just got it done myself now that I'm 18.
Girl Is begging for attention now. Just texting shit to rile me up or make me respond.
Last thing I texted her was "okay" 6 hours ago after she said "go find someone hotter to fuck". Holy shit this girl 180'd into batshit crazy territory.
Done 2 cycles before, have been wanting to do a tren e / test e / dbol cycle.
Can you guys give some insight if this is good or if I need to tweak something?
Tren e 200mg / week 10 weeks - Inject once a week
Test e 500mg / week - 12 weeks - Inject once a week
Dbol 50mg ED first 7 weeks
Weeks 1-12 arimidex .25 mg (1/4th) Every Other Day
HCG 1000 iu / week from week 1 to week 14 (14.000 iu needed)
PCT starts 2 weeks after last test inject
Week 14 - Nolva 40mg ED, Clomid 100mg ED
Week 15 - Nolva 40mg ED, Clomid 100mg ED
Week 16 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED
Week 17 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED
Week 18 - Nolva 20mg ED, Clomid 50mg ED