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/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.

>Big Guys Edition

>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/

>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.

Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists


Red Lights
>>35476393
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How long until this mode
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I say to deadlift bar.
"I am be going to lift you!"
Bar says.
"No comrade we are will going to lift each other!"
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>>35504407

152 from the hang? Is that right?
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>>35504544
157
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im leaving this shit hole

good job mattie poster. good job killing /owg/
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>>35504665
the new mattie poster killed it by posting non weightlifting pics/webms of her desu
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>>35504665
>tfw I used to be like you
>tfw I used to hate mattie posting
>tfw like it now

I know brother, just stay on the ride and it'll get better.
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>>35504826
How did you become a Mattie fan?
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>>35504920
Idk when
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>>35505354
based comrade cleaning 3x bw
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>>35505412
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god i want to fuck her so bad
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>>35505435
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>>35505435
how badly would you fuck her?
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>>35505465
like a 14yr old losing his virginity
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>>35505512
Amazing that she still manages to compete in spite of her cancer
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>23 replies
How do I stop jerking the bar forward? It's always in front of me and causes me to press out
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>>35505604
Before you jerk, move your head back, out of the way.

Elbows down, jerk straight up, head through.
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>>35505639
yes please make more
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TFW 5x5 front squats :(
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>>35505787
Fun :D)

It's my first day back today after a few weeks off on holiday. I'm thinking fs, push press, row and some bodybuilding fluff after a shit ton of technique work.
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>>35505859
Its the beginning of a hypertrophy focus phase for me so it was baby weight and felt easy but it still sucked, so I'm not looking forwards to adding weight :-( I've never bothered to do a set of 5 with more than 130kg in the front squat lel

Today was:

Snatch - (82.5/3)6, 85, 87.5, 90, 92.5, 95, 97.5, 100
Jerk - (105/3)6
Front Squat - (110/5)5, 120/3, 130/2 140 paused PR
Snatch High Pull - (90/3)6
And abs, tricep, shoulder stuff
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>>35506012

I've been thinking a lot about this. Does it make sense to do work in hypertrophy percentages with snatch and clean and jerk? I feel like the hypertrophy benefits of those lifts are limited, and I'd rather handle weights closer to what i'd be doing in competition anyway
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>>35504371
Look at this guy with all his special gear and he's only doing the bar for reps? Give me a break.
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>>35505604
Lead with your hips.
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>>35506059
I'm sure that there is some level of hypertrophy in doing triples at 70-80% of max in snatch and clean+jerk. Less if youre not efficient, more if you're weak like I am atm. The main benefit is working and perfecting technique. Plus it gives me a break from a pretty heavy loaded month in December.

For me its roughly a 6 week cycle on the classics. Two weeks of triples in the classics (6 sets 77.5% and 80% roughly), two weeks of doubles (6 sets 82.5 and 85% roughly), and two weeks of singles (90% for 6 singles and a down week ending with a max). A bit less structured in squats but 10s to 8s to 5s ect in back squats and 5s to 3s to doubles in fronts.
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>>35506059
>>35506158
That being said, my coach in general will let people go up on a lift if they feel good - as you see I went up in snatches after my triples because they felt very good, and every rep was smooth to 100. I had to steady 100 in the hole and didn't bounce out so that was the end of it and time to move on.
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>>35506059
>>35506158
>>35506192
TLDR theres a time and place for everything but I think that a more conjugate style (wherein strength, hypertrophy, and neuromuscular coordination are all trained at once, not strict linear periodization to allow for days when you feel good or bad) is good for recreational lifters. A super structured program is great for a full time lifter living in controlled situation, but I would hate it.
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>>35506158
>>35506192
>>35506210
Apologies for rambling mini essay.
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i got into oly lifting last year from january to may, hit a 66kg snatch and 87kg cj. i went back to general strength training, and now (after i hit my current goal of 1 plate ohp) i want to get back into o lifting. is this a good non percentage based program to follow until i get comfortable with my maxes again? using weighs for the snatch and cj that i know i can hit with no questions

squat rep schemes refers to my programs written above
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>>35506326
Do catalysts 3 day a week program
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I'm getting back into weightlifting next week after a couple weeks off due to a crazy semester schedule and an uncooperative work schedule.
I was thinking doing a lot of light volume squatting and pulling and about a million drills for Wed-Friday and then getting back into the heavier stuff two weeks from now. Wish me luck, /owg/.
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>listen to Birdie while I lift
This is a good thing right fellas?
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>>35504601
>>35504407

She's getting fucking strong, god damn.
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What do you even do when you see ILYIN, Ilya (KAZ) in your category?
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>>35508238
Buy an LG TV
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>>35508252
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i seem to be using my arms to do the second pull on the snatch

as far as i can tell i don't have the same problem in cleans
my coach and i are going to be doing some work on it on friday but i was wondering if anyone here has had the same problem
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>>35505354
He is so cute.
I almost want him as my pet.
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>>35508238
hope for silver or bronze
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>>35508238
kill the drug tester he bribed
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>>35504601
That can't be right, isn't her CJ best like 120?
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>>35505512
>that depth
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>>35509900
126 is her best

also who here bullied her on instagram last night? very mean
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>>35510287
Link?
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>>35504371
anyone has experience with hookgrip straps and knee wraps? i rip my callouses at least once a week because i pull without straps and this is getting pretty annoying.
also i always bruise my right knee with the barbell and i'm at the point of having a 1 inch wide bloody hole that keeps getting larger, i have eleiko sleeves but they're too think and i cant lift comfortably in them.
was wondering if the hook grip sleeves were light enough to feel like a soft ace wrap
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>>35505412

Love it when they look absolutely joyous after making a lift. He looks genuinely happy after making that lift, not just like celebrating the win. Really inspirational.
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>>35510469
I have both the russian knee wraps and the chinese style knee sleeves. They're both great, would highly recommend
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>>35510488
how about the sizing? i hate when sleeves slip off my quads, i weight exactly 80kg , should i buy an M?
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>>35510506
I weigh 77 and I wear an S, but they sometimes slide down. I would say if you're worried about it, get the first version which is a little thinner and longer, so you can pull it up more.
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What does it mean by doing 5 x 2(1+1) power clean & power jerk in the Catalyst programme in the OP?
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>>35510581
One power clean and one power jerk
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>>35510581
It means that one set is power clean+power jerk+power clean+power jerk
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>>35510585
>>35510581

correct one is >>35510619

greg specifies that in the comments, 1 rep is 1pc+1pj so 1 set 1pc+pj+1pc+1pj
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Lad I actually had a decent clean and jerk day yesterday, nearly cleaned lmao1pl8 but I couldn't get it, I need to get smaller plates, I was so sure that I could do more than 50kg. Also I'm pretty sure my gym has womens bars but who gives a shit lmao. Pretty happy desu. Also did some pulls/ power shrugs, I looked like a spastic retard but I felt good. Also got me pretty tired and now I understand why some people don't do accessory work.
>blog post over
Also I am still weak and slow as fuck.
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>>35510585
How did oldschool weightlifters have such ridiculous shoulder flexibility?
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>>35510674
Didn't mean to quote
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>>35510674
some people just have it, i cant touch my tippy toes but i can dislocate shoulder wide
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>>35510665
you'll get there eventually, just squat eat and sleep a lot.
also work on mobility, my tech didnt get decent until i started doing daily mobility work
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>>35510426
her twitter
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>>35510775
What post on her instagram?
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>>35511119
not on her insta

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAIVP15sv0c
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>>35510775
he had a point in there about posting all their shit on social media nonstop. Pretty accurate
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>>35511337
why does it matter, especially on instagram of all sites? at least mattie's shown she can lift. its odd to complain about american lifters by using one of the few american lifters that DOES show constant progress. especially because of something arbitrary like insta selfies. just a dumb thing to make a sticking point

the most notable american female lifters have been fats and lesbians in highly uncompetitive classes and meets, who lift for years and never get any better. natalie woolfolk was a slight standout imo and so far mattie's progressed much better. she's only 20, started a little over 2 years ago, and has set more national records than most lifters since then except BBCJ

where is the american pride family?
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>>35511739
mattie pls stay
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>>35511739
also reminds me of those justin lascek articles where he said he hated aramnau for being fat/ugly/drunk, wasn't impressed by aramnau's best performance, and was glad aramnau faded and no longer competed in top shape.

i don't get people who care more about a lifters personal life than their performance
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Ay lads i had my cobbler add 0.23of hardened plastic to my heel, my current shoe has 0.77 heel height.
how noticeable will the change be?
im not looking for a major change only slight.
and is a gradual increase in height better to a solid block on the heel?
ive seen many weightlifters add a solid block to increase their heel height and many old school weightlifting shoes have a block for a heel
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wha % of 1rm should i be able to snatch for a triple? today i managed to snatch my 95% for a triple at the end of my session so i think it's not my 95% anymore
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>>35509930
Literally nothing wrong with it
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>>35512016
85
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You can snatch 90% for a triple if you're peaking
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>>35512039
would not count in a PL meet
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>>35511739
>spend 40% of yoru day just uploading on what you did

American lifters are lazy narcissistic time wasters
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>>35512082
>>35512046
>>35512016
>tfw dat 2pl8 snatch is not this far anymore
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>>35512084
i compete at a lolfed (GPA) and even there it wouldnt count.
>i am a fat powerlifter and i approve your messege
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i can bounce my glutes off of my heels when i lift barefoot.

i want to try and keep all my lifts barefoot because i am an insane hippy faggot.

do i really *NEED* weightlifting shoes?

i will suck it up and by a pair of wei-rui if i am convinced of the necessity, but i don't know what the fuck the shoes are even supposed to do, besides let you get deeper in the hole..
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>>35510775
>nat arem
>hook grip man
>expert in wl

Lmao look at the older hook grip posts he has no idea what wl is he just takes photo Gregor from atg knows more than him
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>>35512228
i wouldnt do a split on a platform barefoot, shits must hurt a lot.
dude just imagine all the wood splinters in your feet by stomping on the platform
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>>35512228
just do it it will make you twice the athlete
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>>35512307
the platform i do them on is laminated, and splinters don't seem to be a concern

>>35512321
what if i would prefer being a lesser athlete with no assistance what-so-ever?

i am not looking to compete in oly.. i just want to be competent.
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>>35511988
pls reply
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>>35505512
Lol that fat bitch in the back ground doing quarter reps
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>>35511337
He doesn't have a point. He's a fucking retard. 'I don't have time to get good at lifting I'm a dad' but he still has time to dig out a 20yr old girl on Instagram?

If you're the kind of person who gets angry at what other people do on Instagram you're either incredibly immature or 16. Don't like it? Don't look.

100% you and him are the kind of guy who's be falling over themselves to suck Lu's e-dick if he had an insta like Mattie's.

But because she's a young, excitable American woman you can't handle it.

Im not even a big fan of Mattie, and I'm not American either. It just makes me.laugh how bent out of shape she makes autistic nerds
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>>35512084
>>35512218
Is she at a pl meet though?
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>>35512467
they just make the lifts more comfortable, you are not supposed to put 200kg on your shoulders barefoot, you need support to do that
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waifu desu senpai

she's funny in person as well
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>>35513155
i wish i could clean that much.

so is there any reason not to just work my way as high as i can and get shoes if i feel my feet need more support?

would rather have bare feet conditioned and strengthened to handle this type of stress..

..or am i just being stupid?
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>>35513451
>conditioned and strengthened

for what fucking reason? functional stremf?

lmao you're like the hippiest of all hippy fitness guy
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>>35513384
>pink bumpers
adorable.
i want some.
no homo
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>>35513384
I wanna get lost in her ass. Also BTN shit is so good.
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>>35513474
for what fucking reason do you lift?

to become a stronger, more capable version of yourself.

i understand my desires may seem silly... i just want to know if they are also harmless.

i just like the idea of doing thinks as unsupported as possible.

i don't care about my lifts with equipment. i care more about what my own body is capable of.

i suppose you could argue at that point that a barbell is equipment, but i wanna liff them heaby-ass weights.
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Do you jump during the power clean? Do you feet leave the ground or is it only the heels of your feet?

I may have been really retarded
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>>35513155
that's bullshit
oly shoes raise your heels, they dont offer "support"
i can squat 200 kg barefoot no problem
oly lifting barefoot is a different thing because its harder to get in the proper positions without oly shoes
>>35513522
you don't HAVE to use oly shoes but they definitely help you lift more weight, especially if your mobility is subpar
and they will probably help you stay injury free as well
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>>35513535
Pls reply

Googling it comes up with yes you should jump, but some guy at my gym told me I will hurt my back if I jump, and that I shouldn't jump?

Then again I've only seen him bench and squat 1pl8

But I don't want to be that guy who lifts with bad form.
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>>35513632
alright.
i will just keep doing what i am doing, and if my feet go to snap city i will pick up some shoes lmao.

but am i correct in assuming that if i stick to low weight i should be relatively safe? (i.e. only worry about establishing 2 rep maxes instead of 1 rep, and things of that nature)
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>>35513661
Squatting barefoot is retarded and only fucks with your ankles and offers no support to lift the bar, it's a great way to stress the arch on your foot too as well as loose balance squatting with maximal weights.

>>35513632
Anecdotal evidence, just because you haven't studied the problems your poor feet have to endure and completely ignored the repercussions that have or are going to come, doesn't mean that your way is correct.

Please kill yourself instead of giving out advice that is along the lines of
>it works for me bro
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>>35513645
jump
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>>35513725
fnx
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>>35513661
it's not just your feet you have to worry about, you'll have a harder time staying upright and thus putting your back at a greater risk
and also: none of my injuries have happened due to a 1rm, mostly 3-5 reps or chronic overexertion of a joint/muscle
i cant really see why you would want to do the oly lifts if all you care about is being "more capable", theyre very niche and technical
>>35513702
>doing a primal movement barefoot is bad for your ankles
sure bro
lots of powerlifters squat with flat shoes and hurting your ankles squatting is pretty much unheard of
but sure, using oly shoes won't hurt you so do whatever you want, but if you're going to call me out on using anecdotal evidence you could at least provide some non-anecdotal evidence to prove me wrong
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>>35513768
The typical powerlifting shoe is the chuck taylor, they're better than being barefooted because you tie them tight around the floor and if supplies a flat even surface for the weight to be supported on as well as they aren't even that great.

With feet you either have an arch, so less weight is spread out over the foot, and with flat feet you could have internally rotated ankles and collapse in the squat


Both are very very very bad
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>>35513811
I butchered that first sentace. Basically it allows your feet to have a even spread of weight and keeps your ankles upright as they're tight
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>>35513811
>With feet you either have an arch, so less weight is spread out over the foot
>Both are very very very bad

i dont squat barefoot but you're a fucking retard if you believe that, moreso than the guy who wants to lift barefeet
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>>35513896
You could collapse your arch and fall during the squat
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>>35513839
>if [sic] supplies a flat even surface for the weight to be supported on
you mean like the floor?
>With feet you either have an arch, so less weight is spread out over the foot
the weight being "unevenly spread out" over your foot is a non-issue
you don't have to worry about the soles of your feet getting hurt
>>35513917
wut
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>>35513943
I just don't want anon hurting himself. No day I'll research the actual reason shy it's bad, until then I want anon to play it safe
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>>35513917
>You could collapse your arch and fall during the squat

|o|
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>>35513990
you're a fucking idiot
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>>35513535
doesn't matter. there are elite lifters who's feet don't even move and those who jump into the air like a horse and kick
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>>35505412
>socks with sandals
Motherfucker
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>>35512597
Alright mattie, we get it
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>>35514180
If I was Mattie I'd be too busy friggin my overgrown clitoris and selling stanky shorts I worked out in to you sad fucks
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>>35513384
>she
>funny
>girl
>funny
No, you just want to fuck her
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>>35514233
That's why he hopes she has sense of humour cos his dick is a joke xDD
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Wear weightlifting shoes you faggot
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Sternum pain after dips, what can i change to fix it
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>>35514566
depth, less
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>>35513917
barefoot hippy faggot here:
thanks for the kek
>>35513943
trolls and retards should be disregarded, familia
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>>35514101
those are striped shoes, you blind motherfucker
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>>35514579
Thanks
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>tfw just at 6mcdoubles and 2 small fries for 8 dollars
>tfw sodium overload
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>>35513768
you naturally take a shit in wood in a squat position, you dont squat 200kg in it
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>>35505354
how the fuck can he pull so slow and drop so fast?
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Can't tell if retarded as fuck and have a 5th grade level understanding of biomechanics or just a poor troll.


>>35514786
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>>35514805
Its heavy.
3rd pull when his feet are off the ground is powerful/fast
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>>35513510
That ass and her tomboy attitude just makes me want to fuck her so much goddamn
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>>35514830
yeah whatever, squat barefoot if you want to, its not going to kill you thats sure, you simply dont get any benefit from doing so, if anything you get downs
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>>35513510
i always see mattie posted here on owg but giorgia russo is a damn hottie fugg, probably the hottest elite wl
>tfw i'm italian and i'll probably meet her at nats
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>>35511988

You tell us, dude, they're your shoes. We're not lifting in them.
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>>35515101
>full makeup while lifting

Nah senpai she ugly

Genny is better
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talking about italian wl waifus reminded me of owg's original waifu
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>>35515129
dude genny is a fucking dwarf ( literally a dwarf, she take hgh prescribed from her doctor)

she, on the other hand.. damn
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>>35515101
Has she got Instagram or something? Want to have angry sex with her.
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>>35513535

This question was answered in the last thread. Go to the OP, click the link under 'Red Lights' and ctrl-f 'power clean' and/or 'jump'.

Short answer is 'no, you don't jump; you extend aggressively'. If you have 'jump' as a cue you are very likely pulling incorrectly. I dislike the Pendlay tutorial bids for precisely this reason.
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>>35515172
dunno got the pic from facebook.
italian weightlifters are unknown even to the international community
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>>35515166
>italian
>looks like dirty mexican

no thx
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>>35515152
Still my fave. Looks a bit like my ex. I cri.
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>>35514805
hes a manlet
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rate my form plz

don't be too harsh
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>>35515471
the lack of sound doesn't do it justice tho
https://youtu.be/5DZUv0AtYbI?t=1h4m26s
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>>35515471
did the tattooed freak lift as well
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>>35515471

Wouldn't go out in public if my form was that shit with such a paltry amount of weight.
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>>35515471
he does at 41:38 lmao make a webm
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>>35515520
yeah. they all have really "solid" technique lol
pretty strong tho, to lift 95/120 like that lmao
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>>35515519
this hurt my eyes
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>>35510469
just get a piece of 8ft webbing for like $1 and use that as straps forever
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>>35515601
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>>35515471
lmao how did my man even fall on his knees must of been a breeze that tipped him over
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>>35515471
>still put more weight up than 90% of people here

lol
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>>35515685
it's a novel approach to the clean and jerk, called the "prayer technique". By falling on the knees he channels the energy of God to perform a lift that he otherwise couldn't
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>>35512228
ehhhhh

ive seen novice lifters, myself included, be completely deluded about their own form before, why not post a video or photo showing your squat form, it might not be as good as you think, your mobility may not be quite what you think it is

you do need shoes if you intend to compete, they are a necessity like a leotard is too

furthermore, they give you lots of stability on the platform
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>>35515669
>>35515471
LMAO, did they do a mock meet or soemthing? Also are they in thailand?
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>>35515796
sure thing bruv

u also need hookgrip belt kneesleeves socks shoes and shirt!!
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>>35515519
Damn those russian girls are QT. Also David Rigerts son looks like a cool guy.
>tfw everyone in that video has better lifts than you.
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>>35515802
they are in Thai. It is Klokov's project, with most major russian youtubers participating. Almost none of them do WL, most do bodybuilding. So they did a mock meet
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>>35515916
Pretty funny desu, liked the bb show thing too
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>>35515669

>/fraud/ tries WL
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>>35515818
no need to be facetious niggerfaggot

you actually have to wear shoes if you compete, just read the iwf rulebook
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>>35515963
The guy you responded to asked if he needed WEIGHTLIFTING shoes. Your response was ambiguous so I misunderstood
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>>35516032
Tobehonestfam, not needing wl shoes to get into the correct positions is rare, if not unheard of in a beginner. Even for just squatting. Most likely Hippyfag has just never seen himself squatting and assumes his form is fine. Hippy no shoes anon should probably check his form before continuing.
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>>35515519
How is the tranny so strong
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>>35515236
Such a shame she made no fuckig progress throughout her career
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>>35515519
How are they so comfortable around that "thing"
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Whenever I try to hit a deep squat (I normally squat lowbar and just break parallel), my calves take a beating and I can't put any pressure on them (especially any kind of squat) for a few days.

Any ideas besides squatting wide and rolling?

Pic related, bottom of a (very light,paused) squat.
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>>35518297
get used to it
lift without a belt for dem core gainz
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>>35518317
It's terrible though. I can barely walk.

Also, I don't know why I had my belt on there. Holding my phone, maybe?
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>>35518332
Honestly, try doing some calf stretches before and after.

After you'll probably cramping up, but try
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>>35518317
Nothing wrong with using a belt. It's allowed in competition so go ahead if you feel the need
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>>35518297
I had the same issue. Widening my stance helped but then it's going to take a toll on your psoas/it band. Stretch them out and pick your poison
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>tfw skelington when I started and used to be able to go literal ass to grass
>gained muscle and size in legs so i can barely go past parallel

feels bad man. Gotta work on my stretching more
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>>35518373
hamstrings to calves friendo
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>>35518347
Worth a shot, I guess. I've been rolling them out every session and stretching occasionally.
>>35518364
I think that widening does help, but I'm not as strong or comfortable that way so I'd rather avoid that if possible.
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>>35518297

I get this too, but it's only my right calf. Basically feels super compressed if I'm coming out of a paused squat. I've never known what causes it.
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>>35518297
Whenever i squat and lose a bit of control on the descend, i bump my hips on my calves and feel my knees going forward, more than im used to. i feel like clarence whenever that happens
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>>35518297
>>35518431
I've had that on my left calf on the soleus (side of the calf about a 3rd of the way down).

I had it taken care of through dry needling and massage/trigger pointing. It's pretty awkward to do yourself but if you could probably get someone else to try massaging it. It'll hurt a lot.Rolling doesn't really get in there and even a small lacrosse ball is unwieldy.
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The bullying reinvigorated Mattie's American pride.
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How long is coaching necessary for?

I don't live in an area where there are coaches period. If I did the a weightlifting weekend course and got certified with the Ontario Weightlifting Federation, is that good enough for now until I move to get coached?

Would it be better to just do lighter work to work on form until coaching is available? What is the best decision?
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What are your goals for 2016 owg?

Mine is a 300 sinclair. I'm underweight and at 250 currently so I should be able to do it if i train hard
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>>35519144
Qualifying for nationals
Losing body fat.
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>>35519070
Coaching isn't necessary once you meet two sets of criteria

1: You are no longer a novice , this usually means you have been training under a coach for 6-12 months and have decent technique and a basic understanding of the sports and all the movements

2. You understand programming FULLY.
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>>35519063
why does her torso look like a cereal box
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>>35519073
john mcgovern has done [email protected] although not at the olympics
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>>35519330
>decent technique
>6-12 months

you gotta be superhuman or you just have very low standard for decent technique

the average person would be better off having a coach throughout their lifting if they want to compete and generally be better

someone who knows the movement better than you will be able to point out minute stuff you won't be able to see even if you film your lifts
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNCupJIYP6M [Embed]

Do you guys do these?? Can you do them free standing?
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>>35520173
i cant do them im not bulgarian
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>>35520173
Who keeps bringing up gymnastics here
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>>35520244

>implying
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>>35520297
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>>35520306
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>>35520324

So what other gymnasts conditioning movements do oly lifters do?
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>>35520350

or bodyweight
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>>35520367
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>>35520297
>>35520350
>>35520367

Who would win in a street fight? The average gymnast or the average weightlifter?
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>>35520438

Probably the weightlifter.

Nothing to do with the training, just the average weightlifter is about forty or fifty pounds heavier.
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>>35520438
gymnasts has very little hip power/force production since all they do is mostly upper body shit

also manleter in general
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>>35520464
Could liao hui beat up jake dalton?
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>>35520536
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>>35519070
no-one in this world is better off without a coach and it would take years of with a coach to be able to continuably, though much slower, without one
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>>35519144
goal for 2016 is hit 210+ and maybe hit 77 depending on how i am at 80 (currently at 88 at 170cm)

i want to go to states in july and i need to get a 177 total but i'm already to 169 and once i get better my coach thinks i won't have any trouble with it (i only started in august)
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>>35519144
Change my personality, get better at interacting with people, hit 110/145, get black out drunk, fuck my ugly friend the list goes on
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>>35521431
Ilyas girl kinda looks like a mix between abella Anderson and Rachael star
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>>35521510
>>35521431
By girl I mean wife
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>>35520244
That strengthmongrel kid
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>Page 11

Mattie will save this dying thread
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>>35521431
What the fuck is wrong with Ilya's right arm?
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>>35520367
>>35520350

bumping
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>>35524968

>not turning out the rings
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I play sports and have been following a strength routine for 1.5~ years.

because of work and sports ect i can only lift 2 times a week.

What olympic routine would follow this? im really intrested in oly but every routine is 3-4+ days.
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>>35519144
idk like 90/115
fill out 69 ffs
5k in savings
not kill myself?
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>>35525882
Clean and jerk day - BS - Clean Pull
Snatch day - FS- Snatch Pull- OHP

Doubt someone not into this can handle much more i guess.
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best way/fastest way to get rid of a cold, guessing just lots of rest?
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>>35526034
Sounds good. what reps/percentages yuou suggest?
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>>35526159
85% for triples on snatch
90% for singles on jerk

4-5 sets of each
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>>35526064
Garlic
Onion
hot af ginger-lemon drink
sleep like a MOTHERFUCKER
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>>35526261
Yeah, injest an entire onion and an entire garlic bulb
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>>35526267
I eat two garlic bulblings a day
good shit senpai
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>>35515669
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>>35504371
today i did a thing just to try out.
i wasn really feeling like doing classics so i just did some squats pulls and push press.
after that i wanted to do some light hang cleans but i got carried away and i tried a new max.
i basically did someting like 60 cleans , i usually fail a lot of lifts but of this 60 cleans i only failed one, the heaviest.
basically all i did was increasing weight by 1kg every lift to see if i was consistent with my tech and i really was, i usually have good form on my 70% but it get really bad and i slow down after 90%.
i did my max clean with the same exact technique i use for my 70% today, and this after a whole heavy workout.
my qyestion is, to get consisten with technique, is doing a lot of lifts with very little increase in weight from one to another a good strategy?
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>>35524968
>the national athlete got the least of the camera time
lol
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So here I was thinking I could do 5x3 power cleans 2x a week and 1x5 deadlifts 1x a week...

Damn, should I do power cleans on monday and deadlifts on Friday perhaps?
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I posted another thread on this (search the catalog for "shoulder" or "mobility" if you want to find it).

What should I do for shoulder mobility (particularly for snatches but it'd help a lot on any overhead move). I'm already doing shoulder "dislocations" with a hoodie before bed and even a bit during a day sometimes, I try to go through the harder point using the closest grip possible and keeping my arms locked and shoulder blades back/down.

Anything else? I was reccomending face pulls, I do stretch my internal rotators a bit, I imagine strengthening the external rotators would help a bit too.

Should I just spend a lot of time with the bar overhead and maybe even some BTN work and it should sort itself out?
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>shredtasticdad91 Hey nice stupid hashtags im in the navy so I think I actually do more for my country than you do so take your own advice and shut the fuck up @matiecakesssss

damn that guy's going all out on mattie
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>>35527435

By 'in the navy' he means he drills one weekend every other month with the Coast Guard.
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How do I get over a 'bogey' weight?

I've tried 80kg snatch three separate sessions now, last time before tonight was a month ago, really made improvements working at 70-80%, yet tonight I couldn't hit it again.

I'm pretty nooby, 6months ish lifting and 80 is about bodyweight, I feel.I've built it up loads now as its a big milestone and I wanted to hit it within 6 months :(

Help pls I'm so frustrated rn
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>>35527603
i didnt get better until i started doing tech work for hours and hours every day ( i did tons and tons of reps with 70/80% changing weights and focusing on key positions and cues to the point of exaustion with my coach.
i'm still not really good but i've made amazing progress in the last few months, same squat yet i can power snatch my old snatch max.
i think weightlifting it's supposed to be frustrating, like any other sport based on technique and mindset
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>>35527797
I can see big progress in my speed under, my depth, and my back during pull

However I still can't get to 80 so my Max remains 75, same as when it was shitter.

I guess I just have to chip away at it, and maybe I'll take a different route (I should probably Max with 77.5 first) its just so frustrating being this close to bw snatch
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>>35527850
i'm the guy of >>35526560
mybe the way i did it was a bit too extreme, but i worked up the my old max and did really easily m would have done more but i had to leave the gym because it was late and i had things to do.
also my coach geat angry at me every time i do 5kg jumps on maxes, he says the even a single kilo matters and that i should always try 2, max 3 kg prs every try.
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>>35527900
I might do the same, take smaller jumps. Because this weight is bw and I've missed it a load of times now I've built it up in .y head so I think I need to tackle it differently
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>>35527055
stats?

are you doing ss?

iirc rip says do power cleans once and deadlifts once towards the end of ss
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>>35504407

There's no way this is 157. Her best at World's was what, 126? How do you stack on 31 kg FROM THE HANG in a couple months?

>inb4 roids

Roids can't perform that kind of magic in that amount of time. If they did I would go dirty in an arrhythmic heartbeat.
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>tfw tried Jack3d preworkout instead of coffee
>Had the worst workout of my life
>No focus
>No energy
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>>35529087
Why the fuck do you think it's 157
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>>35529290
>bbc shirt
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>>35529087
>There's no way this is 157.

the people who actually thought this might be a possibility can't be saved

ur like one of those really dumbfucks who ends up working fast food theyre hole live because they cant do anything else
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>>35529233

20kg bar + 6 20kg plates + 2 5kg plates + 2 2.5kg plates + 2 1kg plates = 157kg

What does it look like to you?
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>>35529332
Yeah it looks like that, but it isnt.
#Crossfit
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>>35529308

Your second paragraph speaks of your intellectual mastery of all disciplines, but especially English. I must therefore defer to your judgement of me.
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>>35529332
she's so efficient she can stand up from a clean more than she can front squat using a men's bar as well
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>>35529349

They look like Werksan training plates, which are what she typically uses in that gym, you fucking mongoloid.
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>>35529420
Dude it aint 157kg, she'd be olympic gold tier if that were true
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>>35529332
First of all why would she be using a man's bar?

Pretty sure its 126kg
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>>35529420

has anyone here trained at mattie's gym

why does the equipment look so weird
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>>35529463
swrg does

the equipment doesnt look weird
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>>35529429

Even if those big plates on the end are 10s and it's a women's bar, that's still 132.
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>>35529485
Pretty sure its 126.

2x10s, 4x20s, 15 kg bar. That's 115kg

Then there's 2x2.5s, 2x1.25s, those weird collars are 1.25 each. So that's 10kg

Then if you look closely there's 2x .5s for the 126 total.
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>>35529474
it pisses me off because im used to colored plates and i cant tell the exact weight lifted in her videos

also did srwg die? he has not posted here in while
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>>35529588
He's bust giving mattie foot and butt rubs
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USA Weightlifting site says the only oly gyms near me are crossfit gyms. Anyone go to a crossfit gym but do their own thing?
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>>35519330

how 2 understand programming pls
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>>35529610
Yes.
Do the barbell club for a few months and eventually you can come in and train whenever you want. As long as you dont do the bodybuilding shit, they dont care
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>>35518297
my gym has those plates, they're 33's! Nice 243 there
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>>35529308

Put your fucking trip on, durkz, so I can filter you.
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>>35529608
what do you mean
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>>35529648
He's her masseuse
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damn torokhtiy just posted on reddit

when will /owg/ get a guest appearance
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>>35529663
When we prove to be mindless hype clowns willing to brag about our gear for points
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>>35529663

We would just roast them for no fucking reason other than resentment. Why would they put themselves through that for a bunch of literal no names?
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>>35529660
good for srwg! i want to give mattie a big hug and congratulate her success in us weightlifting

and then i give her The Press :)
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>>35519144
Baseline goals snatch 120 clean+jerk 150, back squat 200 front squat 170. I expect I'll get all of these with room to spare.

Also get out applications to PhD programs.
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>>35529663
we already have several gold medalists lurking and posting u just dont no yet ;))
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GOATmeal, as brought to you by Geordil.
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>>35529957
okay so you guys know go-gurt?

I'm going to piggyback on their idea and start marketing Go-atmeal. All kinds of different flavors, packages with 25g carbs a piece, not actual goat product.

THEN we introduce limited edition GO-ATmeal with real goat milk. The public will rave, we'll be millionaires. This is it boys, this is how I make my fortune right here.
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>>35530051
this prototype was just a couple cups of dry oats and water in a gallon ziploc bag. Those are expensive, so I might use kroger bags or put a valve on a cake decorator thing.
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>>35529957
>>35530051
>>35530079

I threw up in my mouth a little bit.

What's the web addy to your kickstarter? I wanna invest.
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>>35530051
>>35530079
you know, with a recipe for that oatmeal that you soak in milk overnight, this might not actually be that bad
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https://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/comments/3zy1x9/i_will_launch_a_new_training_program_torokhtiy/

this isnt the real torokhtiy is it
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>>35531241
it might be putsov, his translator

he writes like that when writing something in english look up his ig @putsoff
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>>35531241
no its billy shears
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>>35504371
Guys my anterior delt hurts temporarily after masturbating, whats going on?
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>>35532827
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>>35518317

Is that pyross Dimas as a baby or is that pyross dimas on the right or left?

what am i looking at here?
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>>35532875
Clearly pyrros on the right
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>>35532967

hairline looked different.
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How do i deal with abdominal pain/bruising from hip contact on snatch?
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>>35534438


the line is where i make contact, literally on the hips, the blue circle is where i bruise.
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>>35534463
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>>35515519
So Klokov took a bunch of Russian bodybuilders and had them do weightlifting? That's amazing
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>>35534463
You're lucky, I take the widest grip on the bar and I bruise just above my dick.
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>>35534438
more dick less pussy
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>>35534438
how short is she to make them look not short
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>>35514377
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>35514830
You're a dickhead. People are going out of their way to explain why its a stupid idea to squat barefoot and all you do is throw insults at them. Seriously, you should leave this thread if that's the attitude you're going to adopt and. bugger off to some Paleolithic fetishist forum where somebody will tell you how much of a genius you are for lifting without shoes because obvs you weren't going to take contrary advice anyway.

Hope your ankles don't collapse on you during a squat, rendering you into a crippled faggot who waddles like a fucking penguin for the rest of his miserable lie.
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Arms loose, collar to collar, bar rests a tiny bit under my pubic bone.

How the fuck am I supposed to ever have hip contact with the bar if it smashes into my bones or my balls?
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Hey OWG, I have a joke for you:

What do you call it when a dead black man's body goes stiff?

>Nigga mortis!
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>>35536730
>hip contact

if your leverages doesnt allow you to get into the hip dont force it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISvwEH3N9Bw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4IYi4GD5MY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIQFAjF-l-g

they make contact just above the dick but not exactly in the hips
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>>35534715
How tall are you? You either have super long arms and legs, or you use a women's bar, which is shorter(like at my current gym).
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>>35537426
>women's bar

i doubt you're actually1 using a women's bar

they're just regular non standard wl bars

a women's wl bar would be way thinner than any barbell you'd ever find in any commercial gym and the collars would be tinier than usual too
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>>35537472
But my brother went to a different gym and when he had a workout with me he said that the bar was very light.
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>>35538078
that doesnt make it a women's bar idiot
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>>35534476
>>35534463
>>35534438

Guise will it goaway and i keep lifting?
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>>35537426
womens bars just have shorter sleeves, the actual part of the bar you grip is the same lenght of a man bar
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I can't find a definite answer.
Should your feet leave the floor on the power clean?

Why?
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>>35539309

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>>35539309

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