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Post fits, inspo, guides, and all that stuff
God tier (Generally consistent in quality):
Brooks Brothers (Original American outfitter)
J Press (Old New Haven outfitter, makes sack coats and blazers. Shaggy Dog sweaters are very good)
Mercer and Sons (good OCBDs)
Bill's Khakis (pretty obvious here)
Barbour (English, not American. Excellent coats regardless)
Gant (Formerly American, now owned by Swedes)
Ben Silver (Old Charleston outfitter)
O'Connell's (Excellent quality across the board, comparable to J Press)
Good-to-OK tier (Makes good stuff but not always consistent):
LL Bean (Norwegian crewneck sweater is excellent, so are the duck boots)
J Crew (Generally a bit budget-friendlier and fashion-forward than these other brands, but decent if not great)
Lacoste (best polo shirts, but avoid tracksuit stuff)
Patagonia (for outdoorsy stuff, otherwise you'll just look like a frat boy)
Bass (classic penny loafers)
Lands' End (kinda like discount Brooks Brothers in some ways)
Brooks Brothers Red Fleece (Not as good as normal Brooks Brothers, in some ways trying too hard to look preppy. However, the quality is generally better than the imitation-tier brands and the fit is very slim if you are a skeleton.)
Imitation tier (New brands, mixed to poor quality, imitating preppy style instead of being prep):
Polo RL (although some of their stuff is/was legitimately good, like their polo shirts. In general, avoid them because the pony logo screams tryhard.)
Hilfiger (a step above Nautica and Vineyard Vines, similar to Polo RL in some aspects. Their old OCBDs with contrast stitching on the buttonholes were decent.)
Vineyard Vines (Frat brand, mixed quality. Fun ties though.)
Southern ______ (Frat brands, mixed quality)
Nautica (Mall brand that sorta imitates prep sometimes)
Shit and not-prep tier:
Abercrombie (For teenagers with too much money and too little taste)
Fred Perry for white M3 solid polo shirt. Quality is good, made in England, but the brand is not preppy anymore.
Thinking about picking up a pair of Tod's penny loafers with rubber driver soles.
anyone know how they fit? are they tts?
idk in europe but these are from sid mashburn which is based out of atlanta, georgia
"Inspired by a well-loved and well-worn old pair of Sid's, we worked with our friends at Tretorn on this exclusive. It's the Nylite tennis shoe we know and love — the ultimate icon of Swedish athletica — in a cheery green colorway we were able to pull out of their archives. The sockbed is designed specifically with a more sweat-resistant, light-pile French terry... which is great to wear (you know it) sockless."
FRENCH TERRY aka comfy gawd
ive noticed a lot of preps seem to like these "madras patchwork" shorts and shirts. what do you think about these? Do you think its hideous?
some people just arnt aware of what they look like. they throw on all black and think they look like some kinda hardcore ninja but actually look like a sloppy autist. its a shame really. Someone should start a mainstream fashion consultant business that makes sure people dont look terrible.
lmao that's me kieljamespatrick and sarah vickers were voted the third MOST PREPPY COUPLE OF ALL TIME
You must be one of those bitter asians who is mad they can't be a prep.
would prep work if you're yuro? im from scandinavia and went to the fanciest boarding school in the country. i always wore prep because it was pretty much the standard there. although the prep there is a bit different than american prep.
I'm sure the prep there is appropriate for there, maybe you could dress in a way that's more appropriate on a global scale if you're going to be doing business or going to school abroad but if you dress nicely already no need to change.
there are some larger differences in scandi (im Swedish) prep.
>longer hair, often pulled behind your ears
>lots of navy
>jeans are a bit more commonplace
it's more navy/brown/silver(or white) than navy/khaki/brown/white like in the US. also more skiing inspired wear because rich kids ski.
I swear you posted that in the last thread, anyways jeans are generally considered more casual, long hair is fine if you wear it right and navy can work pretty well. there is something to be said for variety but just know what is appropriate and youre golden. Do people button their collars down in sweden?
You mean like this? It's form an advertisement I had in my email inbox. Looks nordic-core.
Well I live near Södertälje (close to Stockholm) but I occassionally travel to Helsinki and Oslo, maybe rarely into Copenhagen.
That is a very common look in these places during winter. Maybe a bit upscale, but still common look. There are also some brand differences. For example in Oslo it's really common to see Moncler jackets (which are quite expensive) but here in Sweden you mostly see Canada Goose (which is just regular expensive).
neutral rollnecks, navy & tan crewneck sweaters, no logos, straight wool trousers or dark jeans
basically, invest a ton in cuts and materials (you would ideally want 100% cashmere) but completely leave out unnecessary elements like fake buckles or nonfunctional pockets etc.
the less patterns and logos, the better. except on jackets which is sometimes unavoidable
i can confirm this, but it also makes common sense for moncler to be more common in norway since their salaries are much higher than what we have here in sweden
yeah, pretty much the standard if you live in a larger city and belong to the upper middle class. that's more common among younger people though. 30+ don't have longer hair like that.
ill admit that the winter look bears little not to similarities to prep, but in summer almost everyone where i went had loafers/sailing shoes, blazers, etc.
So basically >>10913862 in the winter and italian style light menswear (loafers, unconstructed blazers) during the summer?
how about pants during the summer, shorts, jeans, chinos, linen trousers?
well there's a lot less colors, I very rarely see shirts that aren't navy/white (although the younger kids tend to wear more fratty colors, sometimes even pink sweaters).
also you kinda need the blonde and neutenous yet strong face like a scandi if you want to pull it off. i look a bit out of place since i am jew/russian.
also id like to add that i very rarely see people wearing only a polo shirt. it's usually under a cable knit sweater. also it's more common to see white/beige sweaters with darker jeans/chinos than in the US. gaudy (often ugly ass hell imo) caps are commonplace.
Surprised to see this thread on /fa/.
I used to post here often quite a few years ago, but stopped coming around after anything preppy was ridiculed as "Dadcore" pretty much unilaterally. I grew up living on Cape Cod, went to a Massachusetts prep school, and college in the Boston area. Have been dressing like this forever. It's funny to see the style swing in and out of fashion so rapidly lately. I thought neo-prep as a modern "menswear" thing was completely dead for the moment, after the boom of the mid 00s and subsequent recent decline.
Interesting to see what looks like a recurring prep thread on /fa/.
On a thread-related note, anyone tried the new (more expensive) new oxford shirts from Brooks Brothers? They have finally, after 20 years, gone back to the original unlined collar, cuffs and placket. The shirts feel great and the collar roll looks beautiful. A bit pricier than before though at $140 a shirt.
Recently went on sale at the NYC flagship store, I think thay are available online.
Gaudy? literally no one cares about a logo on a shirt apart from teens. What's wrong with the logo, I really dig the multicolor polo OCBD's.
Logo is barely visible compared to a contrast logo and it breaks up the shirt.
I do agree contrast logos are tasteless though.
Cape Codfag above you here. The logo is gaudy. I used to hang out in the Andover Shop in Harvard Square while I was at school and Charlie Davidson, (google him if you don't know who he is, he's an original prep/trad/ivy pioneer,) would throw people out of the store for coming in with RL shit on. Literally. He was and I'm sure still is a vicious old fuck.
Andover Shop is like J Press but for Harvard instead of Yale. The Cambridge J Press is right down the street. I frequented both places but would never go into the A shop in Press gear, let alone be-logo-ed RL shit.
True if you are interested in following prep authentically, but I was merely saying for normal people like myself who just admire basic prep style/materials as a platform.
If I was in Ivy I'd probably be a true prep sure.. but for some of us it's not viable.
Depends a lot on your price range and what's important to you.
For perfect collar roll and wonderfully unique material? Mercer's if you don't mind their "generous" (read: tent-like) fits. Kamakura Shirting of NYC is a great Japanese American manufacturer of classic ivy-style shirts that offer a classic unlined collar with a great roll in a couple different fits, some pretty slim.
Brooks Brothers is always at least pretty good. I have an old Brooks "Slim Fit" oxford from the 1980s that I traded off of a friend, it's in perfect shape and has the old unlined collar with the perfect, bell-shaped roll, but fits reasonably slim. They are impossible to find. I am really hoping the new Brooks oxford will be comparable, but I haven't gotten mine yet.
To each their own, but to my taste the logo is definitely gaudy, prep or no prep. It's just prole-ish to wear shit with logos on it to me. Maybe I'm just a stuffy New England asshole.
For something cheap and serviceable? Honestly uniqlo has pretty decent oxfords, the gap will do in a pinch.
Lately, personally I wear a lot of Gitman Brothers Vintage shirts. I'm skinny so the cut works well on me, the collar rolls really nicely, they come in a wide array of interesting patterns and colors. They are a little on the expensive side but if that's an issue they can be found on ebay all the time at steep bargains.
Haha you've got me there, I will wear Lacoste or Fred Perry polos. Vineyard Vines is right out though, no way, not a thing, never. RL is somewhere in between. I love old Polo RL tailored jackets, but would never wear an oxford with the polo player on it.
I honestly can't say why I suppose, except that RL shirts with the polo player I associate with Southern frat guys. Also Lacoste and FP are sportswear and thus inherently more casual, so maybe a little animal logo is more acceptable in that instance for whatever reason.
Ok, so in Britain 'prep' really isn't a thing (not to the extent of America anyway, of course) and it the weather is so poor that summer prep is definitely not a thing.
Typically, I just dress smartly, with prep influences. So, an overcoat, OCBD, trousers and a sweater, I will normally go for brown suede double monks, penny loafers or white tennis shoes. In the summer it's the same, but with lighter trousers and no coat, or if I just want to be casual I will wear darker jeans and an OCBD with wayfarer's.
Am I doing it right guys?
Nah you're right, if I had the choice I'd not have the logo but I got a great deal on some older sunwashed colours.
Anything brand new, where colours are basically equal I always opt for BB or something without one.
One day I'll have a higher standard of dress and not lower myself to a logo..
You still in this thread? You seem to know your stuff. Can you recommend a preppy watch? I'm thinking about a Timex, but I'm not sure what would really fit. They're very cheap though.
Not him but the guy he was replying to here. (Stuffy New England asshole.)
If you don't have an old family heirloom Rolex or your granddad's WWII military watch, a Timex on a colorfully striped NATO strap is where it's at. Something simple, a weekender or easy reader.
True. Still, that slubby, beefy material and perfect collar roll are nice.
I suggest BB or Gitman Vintage for something a little more modern but still quite preppy, with a nice proper collar. In case you haven't picked up on that, to me it's what's always been the most important thing about a "preppy" or "trad" oxford shirt, the way the collar rolls when buttoned down. It should be a nice, prominent curve.
currently building my wardrobe up atm
I have been selling a bunch of streetwear stuff I have owned and I'm ready to move on as a 24 year old manchild.
anyways I'm thinking about grabbing a pair of tod's as ive said earlier in this thread >>10912046 what do you lads think?
also I had $115 in credit on the ratio clothing website and just copped their Blue Campus Oxford with mother of pearl buttons. How did I do? How's the collar roll looking compared to Mercer and sons? pic related
you dont have to be rich or white to dress up as WASP but you def fit the part.
Any preppy inspo for long blonde straight hair boys?
> pic related
Considering copping the Hermés Calvi cardholder, opinions?
>actual prep schooler at my california uni tells me she thought I was from New England and not California based on how I dress
kek, i'm gonna go thank my harvard alum grandpa for teaching me how to dress
The whole book and some inspo stuff can also be found at
the book is called the official preppy handbook or something
>Rhodesian Selous Bro-Scouts
They're not that great desu
There's like 3 people who actually know their shit and the rest are various Euros/mall ninjas who try to justify whatever they wear as prep. That KJP fanboy really shits up the threads too
plenty are over the top and wouldnt work for most but some taken from /r/navyblazer is alright, all the jfk images are great, some of the more conservative fits are good, most of the over the top fits are meh
>44 images in thread
>Only 6 contain people wearing blazers
Anyways since you're obviously such an expert on the style why don't you get off of your high horse and post some better pictures instead of complaining about it
I post pictures all the time, it's just that most people seem to confuse prep with frat
This isn't about being modern, the prep style hasn't changed much in the last 40 years and this is a thread about prep.
or I chose to go somewhere else based on the degree offered.
w2c sweaters with prints like pic related? doesn't have to be that exact print but more that kind of feel
if you mean class sweaters, there's hillflint
Can you blame me though? It's so preppy. KJP KJP KJP KJP
LOL it's the asian guy who's mad that he can't be a prep.
Let me break this down for you
This what pops up when you google preppy white. Notice the laughinggirls.jpg that one was circled just for you
and lastly preppy asian. I don't understand why that is so controversial to you though? Everyone knows.
Agreed, but at the same time, prep is one of those styles that will just look really awkward on non-whites (or poorer people) in general. You can dress traditionally without dressing prep.
White people can have a haircut, wash themselves and dress conservatively, and unless they have bad manners, most people would think they're of an upper class.
Due to the way I dress, and the manner in which my parents raised me, people think I'm wealthier than I am. I'm better off than most, middle class I guess, but by no means am I an Ivy League student with a rich bloodline.
Brooks Brothers sportcoat
Clarks DBs not pictured
Sir, your emotions are showing.
Sir, your point is invalid.
Your asian is showing.
> AND THEN HE SAID ASIANS COULD BE PREPS
lmao, that's not what I said, and I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying you are a fucking retard who doesn't know how google works.
you have shown though that you are a self conscious shitskin who wants to shame other shitskins for trying to dress prep. can it get any more pathetic?
Is this your first time using Google?
It's searching for anything related to "preppy", "white" and "people" not just white people who are preppy
For example >>10928773 has a text saying "It rubs people the wrong way..." below the image, that's where Google gets the "people" from, and his clothing is clearly white in the image.
All I did was present objective query searches, and you somehow assumed I don't know how google works, and got butthurt. All I said was "This what pops up when you google preppy white".
>Let me break this down for you
>This what pops up when you google preppy white. Notice the laughinggirls.jpg that one was circled just for you
I already said I'm white.
Aww the baby filtered me
The problem with the fedora type of guys you reference is that they don't wear shit correctly, like not wearing high rise pants. They slap on that fedora expecting to turn into some film noir gentlemen without paying attention to anything else.
Some details to watch out for on the "classic" BB oxford. I don't know when mine was made but judging from the label and the details I think it is from the 1960s to the 1980s.
As you can see, unlike most contemporary shirts we can purchase OTR, this shirt features six buttons, no button on the sleeve placket, cuff button off-centered (according to putthison this is because people used to roll up the farther part of their shirt cuffs to write with quills). Most importantly, as other anons have noted earlier, these shirts have an unlined collar which allows for a very natural collar roll. Mine has been machine pressed so it doesn't show as much, but once laundered and hang-dryed it should show its roll more naturally. Shirts from companies like Luxire have these details. I'm not sure about Michael Spencer, but the new $140 BB shirt has the collar down and apparently the no-button-sleeve-plackets too, but have seven buttons instead of six. Kamakura's standard OCBD has a similar collar, which while lined is unfused and rolls beautifully. The details, however, are less trad as the shirt I have has both 7 button front and placket button.
Niggling details, yes, and to be honest none of my other OCBDs "make the cut" either.
The color of the shirt and the tent-like generous fit (I had it slimmed but it is still much more relaxed than my contemporary Gants or Uniqlos) makes it harder for me to wear it but I'm sure I'll find an excuse at some point in the summer.
This of course is slightly different from the ivy fetish details that Gant developed in the late 1950's with the combination of the third collar button behind the neck, and the locker loop. Along with the buckle-back chino these details became youth icons in the late 50's and were exported to Japan through Van Jacket where these details have remained low-key popular among enthusiasts ever since. The BB shirt lacks both details. Kamakura makes an ivy line that has the original gant/Japanese Ivy details.
Another thing about this shirt is that the buttons are really really cheap looking clear plastic. I don't think they were ever replaced and I don't know if it was cost-cutting as a result of acquisition by Allied/Marks&Spencers or if they were made this way for some time.
I love MOP shirt buttons and nothing really beats the stuff but maybe it's not as much of a traddie "requirement" as one might like to think it is.
pocket is key, where the fuck do I keep my pen if I don't have a pocket? Where do people endearingly put small bills after losing a bet or pitching for a party? How will people know I'm functional and stylish? taking the pocket away is like taking away the pretense of function before form or something
I wouldnt say they "changed it. because you can still purchase the one with the pocket.
I saw on the website. Also they are $140 not $160
the other oxfords with the pockets are $95
Does anyone know how J. Press oxfords fit?
I usually wear a medium
Just copped this, Neighbourhood should be added to the prep list, this fabric is fine af
What's the fit like?
Looks baggy in the torso and kinda like something you'd see a ghetto dude wearing.
I mean, I can kinda see it if you're wearing khakis and kinda built like >>10912954 but otherwise it could be a flop.
Do you have any of you wearing it?
It fits quite nicely actually, I'll post a pic when I get home
This is the only pic I could find of someone wearing it online, mine fits a lot tighter than his
what are some good basics to start off with? I have a pair of navy incotex chinos, top comfy although a bit tight around the crotch.
Is there anything I should improve with? W2c basics that aren't 200$?
>people think I'm wealthier than I am
I'm the same. I read a lot of philosophy books so when I talk I sound really educated and upper class. I also wear nice stuff, but they dont need to know I bought them on sale at a outlet mall and I live in a neighborhood with mostly mexicans and blacks.
A bit of room around waist is fine, i took apart a qlo ocbd from last year to make a collarless oxford and i think it was lined but not fused. Roll better than j crew but not as good as kamakura. Gant makes nice bds usuall in thinner fabric with good rolls.
That was the original bb and the kamakura
Make sure they have a 7 inch inseam first, shorter is frat and longer is normie.
Then just look at Brooks Bros, J Crew, hell even PRL or Abercrombie could work. They're pretty easy to get
will this preppy look look like shit if you're under 25
I'm skeltal 18 year old so I usually look two years younger unless I'm in some manlet country (I'm 6'2, so luckily people think I'm 19-20 if I'm not at home)
ill just stick to my tretorns because i think it'll look out of place with loafers or oxfords
Inverallan or North Sea Clothing to cop a good wool sweater? Specifically the 6a and Expedition cardigans.