Hiro said that we're allowed one meta thread per board,

>>8930338
I like fast food burgers 'go 'za WA LA

>>8930338
Holy fuck this

The entire reason /ck/ isn't great is because people reply to the really, really, REALLY bad shitposts EVERY fucking time.

The most low effort unfunny shitposts end up being active for a week or two, and any other threads are usually "lets talk about this thing that's food in a way that's not related to cooking at all" which is fine since this is a food board as well, but there's not a lot of serious discussion on cooking

A big point to make in my opinion, is the recent threads popping up just having a picture of an ingredient and the name of it in the title. Obiously started as someone shitposting and ended up being some of the best threads in the past months, because people actually discussed the ingredient and its uses.

/ck/ is good because it's based on an easily accessible hobby with a wide range of skill levels and a lot of depth. Threads where people legitimately ask for help, food pairings, how ingredients work, science behind cooking, etc, are all great. Actual discussion of food and not "lol dudes fast food!! dudes loll oh my god i got a ramen!!!!! noodles!! memes in my ramen lol!"

We're getting multiple threads a week that are very obviously people trying to be epic by making some hiLArioUS xD memefood because they saw dessert ramen or some shit.

I feel like /ck/ is/should be a pretty easy board to keep in objetively high quality. Most threads, shitty posts(read: not shitposts, just not great threads) are still food or cooking related for the most part. The problem is, like OP said, that the small fraction of shitposts there are get all the replies, because people are fucking retarded.

Ban regularly posted meme threads (what sauce for my steak, for me it's the x and most fast food threads honestly, x diet is a meme, etc) and /ck/ would be pretty fantastic.

Basically, too many people too stupid to not reply to the really low quality shitposts this board tends to have, and too few starting actual discussion.

>>8930338
/ck/ needs a sticky.

>>8930398
This too. I doubt we'll ever get an actual mod post this day in age but I'd love to write up a /ck/ wiki

>>8930387
if the community doesn't want to discuss cooking, this should just be made the Food board. then your weird autistic pedantic argument won't have legs

>>8930420
I literally said the fact cooking isn't discussed as much is fine. The problem is the 'community' bleeds over from the other boards swarmed with 14 year olds and manchildren so we get a bunch of retards replying to the lowest-quality shitposts possible all day.

>>8930420
>hurr anything I don't agree with or anything that takes critical thought is le autism
You are a problem.

Yeah there should be a fast food sticky. If you post fast food outside of it you get banned.

This board is surprisingly good

>>8930435
Nah

>>8930387
For me, it is this post. The most accurate in the thread.

Sorry, force of habit.

I come to /ck/ for the low effort shitposting though

>>8930502
>>>/s4s/

>>8930435
Dumbasses like that don't deserve the reply. Ignore those retards.

>>8930414
Where do we start? I think knowing how to use the many things you find in a kitchen (sharpening knifes, using ovens and stoves properly, cleaning stuff correctly, pans and pots and all that comes with it) plus the mis en place is a running start, but where do we branch out from there?

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>>8930387
>fantastic

Stopped reading right there.

>>8930509
That's not food-related though.

>>8930338
IP range ban Australia. Problem solved.

>>8930387
a /fastfood/ general might help curb this

>>8930387
its a shame because when the board is more or less concentrated on cooking, ck is almost easily the funniest most savage board on 4chan, but when its all "lel memes!" it becomes boring as FUCK

Let's be honest with ourselves.

Half the board now is people saying over-the-top shit on purpose hoping it gets screen-capped and posted to the "le epic people getting mad at food /ck/ screen-cap" tumblr page.

>>8930577
r/4chan has infected /r9k/ and /fit/. You can't escape.

>>8930527
A large cooking-centric guide with subpages on technique, ingredient usage, etc covering the basics up to covering how to assemble a basic tasting menu, with seperate sections on general kitchen practices like you listed, 'how do i fix this dish', understanding flavours and objective taste when it comes to food, etc, is how I envision it, but after writing it all out it just seems like a really obvious way to do up the wiki

>>8930573
maybe

>>8930576
literally this

>>8930577
>>8930582
It happens a lot, it's always really obvious, and it always gets a lot of replies. People need to stop fucking feeding posts like this. Opening the thread and posting "this is dumb" and not saging isn't helping.

I don't even cook honestly, I just come here for the dank memes baka desu senpai

>>8930577
not quite, the tards around here are enterprising enough that they immediately screencap their own halfassed shit for future regurgitation

>>8930604
This desu

If I want actual discussion then I go to reddit

>>8930447
It is but there's always room for improvement

>>8930641
the only thing improving it will do is make it worse

>>8930468
the McChicken meme isn't the problem though. It's a legitimately amusing /ck/ meme that gives the board some character and there's a way to implement it in high- quality threads with real discussion about cooking. Like the other anon said, it's not the shot posting that's the problem. It's the low- quality bait threads

>>8930577
The Tumblr was never wanting for dumb shitposts, even before /ck/ found out about it.

>>8930338
>Not sure if I should reply

>>8930563
But then we lose Greg.

>>8930712
Damn, I'd forgotten all about Greg's kitchen. I'm surprised to see he's still going.

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>>8930387

I feel really sorry for people who want this board to stop sucking. I see better food threads on fucking /pol/ and /int/.

At some point, this board turned into /b/ck/, with every other thread being reddit tier "humor" or /b/ tier comments about diarrhea.

I realized /ck/ was done for when it became clear that one should NEVER EVER browse the cooking and food board WHILE EATING.

Maybe if this board had about 25 autistic janitors it could go back to being about food and cooking. Right now it's about being a jerk, so that's fine with me, because I think a community gets to make its own rules.

who's gonna start off with a simple sticky?

>>8930783
If some mod would agree to actually sticky it I bet thered be plenty of volunteers

>>8930338
top puf

>>8930783
>>8930793

If we could organize this, I would definitely throw down. It's going to be a shitshow though because there is so much mythology in cooking plus the subjective aspect

>>8930782
to be fair its still obviously a cooking board. but all the fast food and trash food threads dilute it. like right now for example, there are plenty of good threads

>>8930338
lol you used to make these threads on /tv/, fuck off data miner. I hope someone spills hot coffee in your retinas, fuck you.

>>8930414
There was a /ck/ wiki, lost somewhere, empty and never used. Why don't you click "edit" on it instead of asking for a sticky to write itself up?

>>8930783
Moot said he'd stick a post if we could write it.
It's been years people ask for a sticky but nobody's arsed to write one.
Every sticky thread goes down to either we don't deserve a sticky, or it can't be complete by itself : it can only be a link or two to external resources. Like a fucking wiki and the booru.

>>8930338
>low effort shitposts and bait
That's all this board is, though.

>>8931008
Nope.

If they would just do a fast food sticky, this place would be 10x better instantly.

So having frequented this board for years this is something I really want to help contribute to. I am a bartender by trade so anything typed out on that shit I can handle but would take some time to make sure it is accessible to others.

As far as what I can quickly contribute I started >>8931314 so if any anons are willing to help provide help with general infographic advice (as it has worked for other boards) by all means any help is solid and I would be glad to bring it all together for the start of a decent sticky thread.

Even people who just post here to be shit stirrers should be in favor of a fast food sticky. Can you imagine?
All this shilling talk gone. They will be forced to shill to themselves.
And the people who ***enjoy*** posting fast food crap to piss others off would be forced to do so in an endless swamp of pure garbage.
I mean, c'mon. These people love bullshit, stress, and suffering so let's give it to 'em.
Fast food board or sticky would be win/win for everyone.

I would have to think that most people who actually like ck are about to head out to another place that isn't just 14 year olds.
I believe it can be traced back to when moot said he should have kept the site limited to a niche group. You get the traffic from the shit boards like /pol/ and /b/ and all of the sudden you have a bunch of clicks. Yeah, well done.

>>8931505
4chan should only be /a/, /int/, /fit/, /sci/, /ic/, /fa/, /g/, /out/, /tg/, and /x/

>>8931505
I think it would still be helpful to have an intro guide to newcomers that are interested in this kind of niche.

>>8931520
Fashion board is pretty fucking shitty. I object to your inclusion.

Do Americans really reply to this¿

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I don't know what you mean about shitposting, friend. All I know is, the McChicken is the best fast food sandwich.

>>8930519
This is a serious problem all over the site. Having passion for anything that isn't video games is autism. There's little in depth discussion on anything anymore, just endless quips. Phoneposters are part of the problem.

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I'd totally be willing to be a part of a /ck/ wiki/sticky revival. I'll start documenting things that people suggest here, such as recommended cookbooks, cooking blogs, television/online cooking series, even links to archived posts so that I could clean them up and add context to them to make them useful for newfags.

I adore this board and all it faults and I believe that with a few anons' effort we could maybe improve the general discourse of this place.

All of you can fuck off is my opinion

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>>8931533
It's shitty but not detrimental to the site like /pol/ and /v/ have been during Trump campaign and GG.

This should be the sticky picture.

>>8931520
You haven't seen x lately cainpai
It's as bad as ck

>>8931520
What about /diy/?

>>8931520
Dude, the first 3 listings showed you're a complete fag, and yet you expect to be taken seriously. C'mon.

I think 4 chan basically relies on clicks now since hiroshimoot.
They would prefer 14 year olds clicking away and arguing, meme posting like crazy.

>>8931834
>anything I don't like is wrong
You can't downvote like you do in your echo chamber, lad. Deal with it.

>>8931851
Considering the fact that he put literal adware up yeah that shitbag fucking gook will never do more than the bare minimun to keep this site (which was once a labor of love) running to earn him a few yen

Have a bump.

>>8930398
Seconded. A /ck/ sticky could solve alot of problems. I mostly just want to see more people cooking and cooking more interesting foods.

In /sp/ when they took all the wrestling bullshit away it was a good move. They need to do the same thing for /ck/ with fast food. Either make a fast food sticky or move it to its own board.

There are currently 11-12 fast food threads on ck. Just stick them in their own board.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Gordon Ramsay / Andrew zimmern/ Anthony bourdain threads go to /tv/ either

>>8933527
The answer is to split the board.
/ck/ for cooking and /fo/ for food general such as junk food.
All YouTube stuff should be on /tv/ to keep the kids happy.
i know the guys on the IRC have written a sticky so that should be linked on /ck/. Cooking is pretty objective, the basic techniques remain the same.

>>8933538
I assume you meant subjective not objective. Anyway, this sounds like a good idea to me as long as it's clear.

The reason this sounds good to me is I come here for cooking and recipes and I couldn't care less about fast food and junk food or n general.

Of course the next thing all these 14 year old faggots will do is make 100 different how to cook steak threads so there should be a rule about duplicate threads.

If "meme" "kino" "redpill" etc. could be filtered that would be nice too

>>8930398
How would a /ck/ sticky even work? Would it be more of a "if you post a bullshit thread that isn't food/cooking related, or is a low effort bait post about food/etc, you will be banned" or more of a "this is how you cook" sticky?

Because a "this is how you cook sticky" would be ridiculously long, somewhat unusable because a lot of people only want to most extreme basics, or learn very differently to find just a straight text tutorial to be difficult to follow, or any other number of reasons.

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After this post, calling anyone a "cuck" or referring to something as "meme" should result instant bans.

If mods/janitors don't take this advice, they are objectively supporting trolling.

>>8933538
You should probably further qualify the split to be /ck/ - cooking and foods used as ingredients and /rest/ - restaurants and their food. I like some of the threads where different ingredients are discussed.

>>8934163
A lot of stickies just cover common questions. If we could get rid of the dozens of weekly "I'm a poor college student, tell me what put in my ramen" or "help me meal plan on a budget" threads, it would be worth it

>>8934163
Yeah, it'd need some janitor back up. That said, if a warning in the sticky alone scared off even a tenth of the shitty bait threads that get rehashed every week it'd be a net positive.

Actual cooking advice is probably better suited to the wiki, but we could probably straw poll a short list of passable recipe sites and good youtube channels to head off "how do I boil potatoes" posts.

>>8933741
Nah, cooking is objective.
All practical skills are objective.

>>8934163
I'm not involved with the sticky just a random anon, but how I see it work on some boards/forums is you post thread rules and maybe some examples of what is OK and what is not OK. They didn't have to do this on /sp/ when they split off wrestling because it was very clear cut.

I don't think anyone is talking about making a sticky that is some sort of "cooking knowledge repository" (at least I hope not).

>>8934235
You seem to not like 4chan memes but you used the word "objectively" so into the trash you go

>>8934295
I think a further clarification would be "junk food threads". We want the restaurant threads out but also the threads that are like "what is the best chocolate and why is it Hershey's."

>>8934313
OK I see what you mean. I was reading it as "taste" is objective because of your lack of a semicolon.

>how do I spruce up ramen
>ketchup on steak
>I have five cents to last me for 3 years worth of food what can I make with this
>al/r9k/y
>Jack/Joey/Reviewbrah/etc

Should be instant bans

>>8934334
You can put this in the rules of the sticky but the problem would be enforcing it. It might be easier to just report and delete duplicate threads and ban repeat offenders.

For example: some 14 year old faggot makes a thread asking how long to cook a steak. Then some other retard makes a thread about ketchup on steak.

Those would both be steak threads so one would be removed

>>8934334
I legitimately like catsup on my steak though, sorry you can't ignore actual trolls, daddy Mook should do it for you right?

>>8934353
>problem would be enforcing
This isn't a municipality, it's a website, it shouldn't be an issue at all

>>8934324
>You seem to not like 4chan memes but you used the word "objectively" so into the trash you go
You know I'm right. The board gets flooded with "lol u fell for meme cuck faggot" and it's shit. If they would ban people for that shit, it would stop.

If you don't like memes and like strict rules I suggest you return to Reddit

>>8934373
Memes are fine, retarded bait and shitposting are not.

>>8934364
You are being contrary and not adding anything to the discussion. You would need a full-time mod to do what you are asking. I offered a better solution that wouldn't take such a resource toll.

>>8934369
I do know your're right about the "cuck" thing. The thing is you are such a 4chan fanboy that you don't understand that "objectively" has invaded your lexicon. In other words, I agree with you but you better take a look at yourself and follow some of your own advice.

>>8934373
You're part of the problem, anon.
Shame on you.

>>8934392
This retarded bait has been part of this boards culture longer than you have been here

>>8934392
Why not? Do you even know what site you're on?

>>8934395
Fine, I recant objectively since you find it so distracting.

>>8934399
Bullshit. When I first came here that wasn't tolerated. Mods would see something and know it's bait, and ban that fucker outright whether it was specifically against the rules or not.

>>8934411
Not the person you are responding to but you're just too young or new to know what 4chan used to be like outside of /b/.

>>8930387

No

Replying to bait is WHY it's good

>>8934373
>deploying "Reddit" as if were some atomic bomb pejorative
No one cares

>>8934418
Suck my dick I've been here since 2006

>>8934491
>been here since 2006
11 years and you still don't understand?
Retard.

>>8934501
>I take my 4chan very seriously
Itty bitty baby
Itty bitty boat

>>8934235
You're a cuck, you meme.

>Frankie. Can I call you that?
>We're good friends, you and me. An inseparable duo
>Batman and Robin. Starsky and Hutch. You and Me, Frankie
>Now, you wouldn't be trying to fuck your lifelong partner, would you Frankie?
>What ya got there? Some shitty sandwich from a chain restaurant. They choke out the smaller mom and pop businesses just trying to scrape by on an earnest living.
>Day after day you can smell freshly baked bread and sizzling hot, tender meat dripping from the oven. All just down the street; waiting for a customer to stroll in and try the best "engineer" this side of Jersey
>And what do you go and do, Frankie? You stroll into a God damned Subway because Happy Gilmore told you it was the ideal lunch choice
>You're fucking over the natural order of things around here, Frankie
>You don't give your old buddy a call in over a week
>You screw some kind old lady out of a day's pay
>AND YET YOU STILL DON'T HAVE THE BOSS' MONEY
>YOU GOT ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW HE DON'T FUCK AROUND, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO PIECE TOGETHER THAT YOU'RE BURNING THROUGH HIS FUCKING CASH, BUYING SOME SHIT EXCUSE FOR A MEAL AT SOME JACKOFF'S OVERPRICED, RAT INFESTED SHITHOLE
>WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE TO GET THIS THROUGH YOUR BRAIN, FRANKIE? A BULLET? YOU'D BE THE LUCKIEST SON OF A BITCH IN THE WORLD IF THE BOSS LET YOU OFF THAT EASY. I HEAR HE'S TAKEN TO DROPPING GOONS LIKE YOU OFF IN THE RIVER, WEARING A NEW PAIR OF -
>...
>What the fuck?
>Is that...
>...
>Is that Mediterranean oregano I smell?

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>>8934511

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>>8934392
>>8934491
>Been here 11 years
>Thinks trolling was at some point not allowed

>>8934511
I read this whole thing but since I don't know about movies I've no idea if this is lifted verbatim or not

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>>8934529

>>8934526
See >>8934418

>>8934545
You're responding to two different people with that post. What I was referring to was the fact that your alzheimers is too advanced to remember 4chan before it was ok to bring tumblr here

>>8934163
>How would a /ck/ sticky even work?
A few links, like >>>/g/
It'd be impossible to agree on any kind of content anyway.

>>8934313
Your technique is shit, mine is better. Chinks do this better. Also use a damn garlic press. Don't get a garlic press it's fucking useless.
>Objectivity at it's finest

>>8934235
Just let the meme die by itself, like Milhouse and calling people the cancer that is killing 4chan.
>Blast techno

>>8934334
Greentexting should be bannable. No exception. 4chan isn't a place for free speech. Stop enjoying things I don't like.
>There is this thing called a filter. It's in the options, top right of the page.

>>8934369
So we ban all /pol/tards? I'm all for it, but it's not implementable. 4chan has never been about strict moderation.
I'm actually kinda curious what 4chan would look like with "cuck" filtered. I learned to ignore trolls long ago though. The rules of the internet talked about that a very long time ago.

>>8934416
>Bullshit. When I first came here that wasn't tolerated. Mods would see something and know it's bait, and ban that fucker outright whether it was specifically against the rules or not.
>Anon has access to moderation panel.

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>>8934545
Ask me how I know you're new here

>>8934607
>>8934596
>>8934557
>>8934545
>>8934541
>>8934529
>>8934526
not an argument

>>8934731
In one of the other posts some anon was talking about ignoring troll posts. This is one of them - just pointing it out as an example of what everyone can ignore as having zero value.

>>8934753
I hope you saged.

>>8934731
This wasn't an argumentation. >>>/pol/ is that way.

>>8934781
I wouldn't sage a thread I want to bump regardless of whether some moron was posting in it

>>8934753
>hurr durr opinions i disagree with should be ignored
guess what, when people shit up your thread about what you just made it's because you're shit and your thread is shit. if you're going to ignore posts you don't like you should fuck off to a site that supports hiveminds via a voting system, cuck.

>>8934825
No he's 100% right. You should ignore posts you dislike. I fully expected people to respond to my zero effort shitpost but thats the point: if you respond you're encouraging low effort garbage posting.
t. The guy that made the 'not an argument' post.

>>8934848
thanks fore the (You) friend!

>>8934825
Another example of a post with zero value (most likely a person with zero value as well).

Is the sticky that is in process (I guess?) going to be posted anywhere for review?

A containment thread for fast food HAS to happen. It's too awesome. It would either be:

A ghosttown

or

A pit of hundreds of rats that you throw down 1 little scrap of cheese

Either way it would be hilarious. C'mon mods, do something good for 4chan and stop worrying about how many 14 year olds click. You make a decent site you will get more traffic anyway.

bonk

The sad thing is that underneath the rampant shitposts there is actually good content to be found here.

>>8936286
Right, there is but if you could contain the fast food shit threads there would be more good content in actual cooking threads.