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clubs are not raves and edm festivals where everyone stares at a dj and jumps up and down are not raves. Raves take place in warehouses,forests and abandoned buildings with real electronic music. please stop calling it edm, its electronic music thats what its always been called. fucking americans..
>>597129752 I haven't heard of "real raves" since 1992. They just became no different to a mini festival after that, with fences, security and admission charges etc. Turned it into a nice night out for slightly misadventurous students and clubgoers, I suppose. Utter shite.
It's called EDM now. There is still electronic music like flying lotus or sbtrkt but most of the other Pop stars are edm djs. Quite frankly I hate it's upcoming popularity and I find most of the djs to be musically tasteless
They have always been underground and the ones invited have been young hot people. As you get older, you are no longer the target demographic so you just don't hear about them anymore. How does it feel to get old?
I've been to a few Toronto freeraves. That's where you're gonna find anything close to the real thing. Not at some venue where you're charged to get in and they search your bag, but somewhere under a bridge or in some park, until the cops come and kick everyone out
OP if you want to find real raves then you need to find the non mainstream scene in your city
most of the people that used to host them stopped after legislation was passed which held the hosts accountable for any dumb shit that happened during or as a result of the rave. All it takes is a single OD to shut down someone who had previously been a successful host for years.
>>597129812 I'm glad I'm not the only one who is bothered by the fact that electro/techno/house music are all now being lumped into one big shitfest genre called EDM where everyone remixes whatever the top 5 songs of the month are.
>>597129752 Ravers all grew up and don't have the time or energy for them anymore. Kids nowadays would rather go to shitty legal clubs with over priced cocktails and vodka and jagerbombs than have a real good time running away from the cops while off their faces on E. Kids these days, amirite?
Out of all the times ive went out hunting for real raves i can say ive only ever found three real raves. Those 3 were probably the best ones ive ever been too though even though they werent as big as say a festival. One was in an abandoned building in downtown chicago the best one was in an abandoned gym building in the hills of san diego and the other one was in a warehouse in some part of LA everything else ive been too is usually flooded with rich white douchers and guidos and drug quality seems to be subpar at festivals compared to what it used to be that rave in san diego i found some of the highest quality molly ive ever done and some tabs that werent the best ive done but damn near. But yea pretty much real raves are really really hard to find especially since now a days clubs try to advertise an edm dj as a rave or stupid shit like that and i never understood festivals like theyre alright but theyre so fucking expensive and theres so many fucking rules and its not even remotely fun unless you can find good drugs not to mention the only places ive ever been ripped off on drugs is at festivals
They used to be fun. It was at some underground place where people would meet at such a location and then drive to the rave.
It was about the music and experiencing it without worries of getting raped or murdered.
So what happened? Simple. It became popular for niggers and others to show up because they knew that white girls would be on xtc and they could rape them and steal wallets and watches and phones from white boys.
i remember people were having sex out on the dance floor. i got all horny and grabbed some chick and just started fucking her too, we had a croup of like 4 couples fucking if i remember but damnit i was high as fuck.
@OP. The good raves are gone. All those cool cats are at lounges and hardly anyone dances cause everyone is old and tired from work all week. The music is Skrillex crap that sounds like when you used to sign on to America online is whats playing and no one sings. Trance is dead. Xoxo
Unless your raves were in fields, underground or abandoned or otherwise empty buildings with a bunch of friends as well as people you don't know, wasn't a rave, probably some shit club most places nowadays if there are more than 200 people, guaranteed not rave
'Rave' and 'US' do not belong on the same sentance, I am sorry but your music scene is generic and sucky and your events are nothing but cash cows.
You want to come to the UK or EU for a real undergound rave experience with good music and amazing feels from the crowd, not jacked up 20 years trying to flash their pecks to any girl whos so messed up she might actually be stupid enough to go for him
I mean lets face it, like 90% of the best electronic producers come out of Europe
>>597134675 My last girlfriend was a raver; she wanted me to try ecstasy but I never did. Honestly I'm kind of glad I didn't. I know it can be a good experience but I don't really feel any regret over not trying it. I could still easily get some if I wanted to, but I feel like there's no point cos I'm not really into the rave scene at all.
>>597137123 9-11 ended the 90s plain and simple. People were becoming too comfortable and racism was almost ended. It really is sad that this is what happens when we get close to world peace, but thats life.
>>597129752 you mean 40,000 people moshing and having open sex in a drugged up pit the size of a suburban living room, where its smokey not from weed, but coke......yeah, 23rd street, st loius. now fuck off and die.
>>597129752 faggots like you happened to them, they were amazing when they were back alley things, really hard to find, but now everyone and their mom knows all about raves, and therefore gangs of total /b/tards turn up at them all and ruin them.
I'm sorry but what you Americans call a rave just makes my skin crawl. A real rave is a underground event with rigs built to the ceiling in a office block, forest, warehouse , school or wherever the fuck you want not a festival like commercial event selling phone charging stations with knife party. Coming from a current London raver check out events in YouTube like rum n bass to see the real deal is still going strong
Idk, but there was a dope scene in Pittsburgh from about 2008 to 2010. Then people got busted and everyone fled town. Pure MDMA, MDA, Lucy, shit, whatever for about two years along with sexy girls and dope house and dubstep. Greatest time of my life.
>>597141010 Yeah, that's not entirely fair. "Money happened" would be a better explanation. The day it changed from some crusty wandering around collecting for the sound system, to people expecting you to hand over your cash to get in. >Fuck you, impress me or entertain me enough that I feel I should give you my money. I'll do so willingly.
last "rave" was probably a year ago, but i'd barely call that proper
they used to pack out warehouses around here, everyone knew everyone and the djs were all locals who'd get out there and dance after their sets
i sound like a jaded piece of shit but it's true if i could go back i would, those were without a doubt the best times of my life the friends, the drugs, the adventures just to even get to the raves
there was a club around here that we would all go to when there were no raves on, always blasted the best tunes and had excellent international DJs closed down a few years ago and it's almost disappeared completely
They're still around, you just have to find them. Chicago has a pretty good scene, shit ton of abandoned buildings, crooked cops that dont give a shit. The best stuff is in the outskirts where old movie theaters are failing so they rent them out on weekends on the hush hush, or this one time I remember we had to enter through the alley of a chinese strip mall and they turned a chinese buffet into a 2 story rave. Man those things were dangerous though, a single fire and we'd have all been dead. But it was a good time. I didn't stick around though, didn't like the scene too much. Pretty much exclusively burnouts and losers who thought their ramblings were real deep. Gets boring after a while. Met a couple amazing people but im just sad they're never going to get out of that place.
this was one from a while back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UAeRbzdA6M
>>597141583 I'm in London but I never really knew about them until I had gone to Sixth Form in Essex. Before then I had thought that the whole cliche party, drugs and sex scene only existed in American tv shows.
Raves are pretty crazy where I am there are usually a ton of girls tripped out on xtc wearing the least amount of clothes possible, the usual drugged up anorexic looking guys with their tops off jumping around into everybody and a few asian qts. It's pretty rare to see a black person at one of these things but if you do see one they are usually pretty chill.
I've also heard there are a few underground foam parties which happen semi frequently. I highly suggest you get a white trash friend just for ready access to drugs and parties.
Keep in mind that you will have to travel for a few of these since the way they work here is the rave location stays secret until an hour or so before it starts then a text is sent out.
I once accidentally drove a rave convoy into a cul-de-sac. It was both hilarious and utterly chaotic. Imagine the whole street was comprised of 4 car households who arrived home at once, and simultaneously immediately decided to leave again. They just drove over the gardens to get out and pretty much wiped out every lawn on this quiet little street. It looked like a tank testing range.
They're still around here in the UK but harder to find. Luckily for me someone I know works as an organizer for a free party called Secret Circus down in the south west of England. House music all night long.
>>597143132 I don't know what his problem was. EDM is just foreign to me. I know the US used to be top notch with their house/techno scene. but things have changed for the worst mane. I grew up listening to Rush, Mills etc.. shit was bangin.
What happened? The fucking 1990's kids happened. Now they're growing up and ruining everything with their massive faggotry. It's just the way of life, every generation fags shit up for the ones before it.
>>597144207 I understand, I lived that too. There was a lot of shit music then, and there's a lot of shit music now. I can admit once being ignorant of the range of genres, and admit enjoying myself immensely at a set by Skrillex. I try to look at the now, and keep my back catalog playing
>>597129752 for me, the shitty rave is just the background of what i had allready planned with bros, which is really us tripping on lsd and molly while were at a shit rave with shit edm, then we just judge people all night till we come home get drunk play games while the sound system is pumping actual tasteful sounds... nigga, if you plan to have fun at a rave just from being there though luck.
>>597135119 rave is kill. maybe in europe there are underground parties. They do have ware house parties in NYC.
Raves are now a place for beta's and other weirdos to go and stomp around to happy hardcore and garbage trance DJ's.
DJ tiesto, Oakenfold, hallucinogen, cosmic gate, those days are done. They have been since too many kids died of Ecstasy OD's in the late 90's, thus the age of Hip Hop and Bro jam bands came into play and dominated the late 90's to mid 2000's. Also artists like Daft Punk and Benny Benassi revolutionized the electronic scene by making top 40 in the Western World.
a lot of people just go to 'raves' so they can post about it on facebook and show everyone how much fun they are having, instead of just actually going because they like it / like getting fucked up. Basically swagfags and attention whores
The same people are the ones drinking and fighting over nothing.
>>597136817 this is pretty much true, the UK underground scene is the fucking KUSH, well traveled amerifag here. In america you have to be careful as to what producer/dj you see and where they are playing. Have fun at avicci, (who fucking blows) in nyc with bros and basic hoes that heard his shit on the radio. I would 100% suggest to never go to a big mainstream arena and see overplayed and overzealous djs, the best experience is an outdoor festival and only paeticular ones, lollapalooza, and coachella are full of basic ass bitches. and EDC and ULtra is full of 16 year olds, but you can go to the clubs till 5am where the real dj set is, not during the day with the kids
You can't really get in without "knowing" someone.
It's a very tight community because that way a lot of problems are avoided with a) dickish people who go to start fights/get overly rowdy/cant handle themselves b) creepy people c) too many people/over occupancy/police awareness
They are really professional and are really doing it for the music more than anything which i really really admire. It's not like some excuse for derelicts to go crazy but rather a place where people can just listen to techno and have a good time together without any worry.
>>597147629 i'm gonna guess croatia or romania? i'm going to that kind of area this summer, i'm not gonna ask for a number this early obviously but like, what city, and what bars should i hang out in to meet people who know about this stuff?
i run outdoor "raves" in Germany. I really like being able to play whatever I like and the feedback you get is great. Last one was about 90 people and the vibe was still there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQAk3ulAv18
>>597148225 ah i meant mid western europe. somewhere between france and poland.
>what bars should i hang out in to meet people who know about this stuff?
Go on facebook and research popular techno/house music organisations (usually not that big) within the area. 9/10 times the dj's that play for these local organisations also play for raves/local parties.
Look for clubs that focus solely on techno and have more of a local feel to them. Ask where the locals go to club/party.
I met some local guys at a skatepark near me to find out about these things when i first moved here. Before long they showed me the favorite local spots to hear good techno and then from that i found out about the other stuff.
>>597144022 My nigga >tfw nobody will experience 180 bpm music while dancing >tfw dnb is the underground shit in California >tfw nobody makes good trance anymore >tfw people like testio was the shit back then and now he's garbage
>>597139420 9/11 affected the whole world more than america. >see secuirty everywhere in airports x10 >outlook on terrorism by most first world countries >the fear in politicians everywhere of what might happen to them >drug trafficking changed big time because of security set ups, especially aerospace.
to name the few im aware of. im not even american.
>>597140066 Dude the rave scene used to be legendary. I don't know what is up your rectum. I find it ironic that people trash on American edm and events when most of Europe is ran by qdance want to talk about generic... oh and tomorrow land ohhhhj
>b me at first rave. >go with a couple of chicks I met at a strip club. >They give me 1 triple stack blue dolphin. >Rolling balls in like 30 minutes. >Go dance for what seemed like an eternity, probably only 15 minutes. >See two girls, couldn't be older than 15. (I'm 23 at the time). >Offer a cig, they nut because I'm older and not treating them like children. >They ask I can get any ecs. >Fuckyea.jpg >One is already flirting with me. >As soon as they start rolling they are all over mah dick. >End up taking them in the back of the rave and nutting in both while they lez out on each other. >Feltgreatman. That was my very first rave experience. From then on I was hooked.
>>597150896 Calling bullshit. Dnb is huge in California. In l.a there's a huge dnb club that's always packed and diesel boy is coming to the exchange fuck head.which will be a good show Btw hardcore gabba masterrace
I still have all my old rave gear from the late 90's. It was all Adidas and JNCOS and running shoes and whatever baseball cap you had. (Pic related) the best rave I ever went to was in Louisville ky in a burned out warehouse behind a Chevrolet dealership. There were two big generators outside to power the decks, speakers and a few lights. There were tables of people selling tiger balm, Vicks vapor rub and filtration masks while others sold blow pops and candy bracelets. The name of the party on the flyer was "OH SHIT" good times
>>597153673 Oh my BAD Austria everybody! AUSTRIA came in to chip in by adding something that would be classified as edm. You're a fucking moron. Edm is a bad blanket term. All your country is good for is making a body building movie star
>>597129752 Whatever happened to real punk rock shows? You'd walk into a sweaty basement venue and see people having sex against the wall. But her perky tits couldn't keep you from watching an east coast band that rarely played a show in the desert.
Where im from ther is literally one club that plays minimal techno/psy trance/old skul and every body in there is on something mdma/speed/lsd and to me that is the way it should be not some trendie clubs playing sam waterd down remixed pop song
>>597154658 it pretty much lives till today. the punk bands calmed a little bit, hardcore isn't much hardcore anymore /haven't got into a good fistfight in ages/ and overall... it got a little bit worse...
only been to two raves. Little Rock, Arkansas and fuckifIcare, Texas.
LR one was a BLAST, I was being given all kinds of drugs but instead of popping, I was trading them for sex favors. after the 5th bj I was done for that night...
texas was SHIT! music sucked, crowd sucked, spoiled rich kids had all the women, nobody wanted to dance, And to top it off - some fag got butthurt because I was trying to talk "his" woman and called the police saying I was a dealer. (I had nothing on me and had been clean for several months at that time.) but it didnt stop the cops from holding me overnight and finding a boot on my car in the morning. thank god for sledgehammers.
>>597154758 True story dude. Nile basement in mesa, az. Paid $5 to see against all authority and catch 22 (before the split). There was a "rave" going on upstairs. But all the titties and fucking were going on in the armpit of our basement.
>>597155654 Some hardcore sub genres are pretty fucked up, like speedcore, terrorcore or frenchcore but there are some very good party anthem tunes, still love schranz the most from the hard/raw subgenres
>>597157159 Bullet belts at hottopic , people don't diy anymore. They complain about capitalism as they buy beer and drink. They ain't punk anymore. It's nothing more than being a peacock now a days. Black flag and anti flag are living good for hating America and capitalism
>>597156916 I went to a mad dog release party in 2012, even if it was in a club it certainly could be called a rave, we have monthly hardcore events nearby with hardcore italia and other artists from that genre
>>597154489 >if it wasnt for american faggots, you wouldnt have your repetitive music to try to dance to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAR8cq5Bl94 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y8w2W1uy2A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSwI2AFlki4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dEee7IDuhw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPrGnh7QUDo learn your history faggot
>>597155172 nah i live here and its much worse here than bristol, london, manchester and leeds.The Digbeth clubs are decent but there's very little variety, and theres not a rave scene as far as i can see
>>597129752 use to have good massive's out here in the SF bay area: trance, house, breaks, dnb, happy hardcore. all with about 10,000 people total, and 100-700 people in each side-room. Great times, great music, great vibe, Everyone in the place just wanted to party/do speed/designer drugs they knew were cut.it was not about fashion, egos, Facebook pictures, raging/sloppiness/ doing 'pure' molly that is actually bathsalts. fuck this nostalgia i hate that i only experienced the last 3 years of what san francisco had. We had the best massive/street festivals. The bay area had the ug/renegades sorry for venting/reliving the feels and not proofreading
Yall niggas need to calm down about 'real raves' thus and 'real electronic music' that. None of that shit matters anymore. Things change, its inevitable. If you dont like it, thats absolutely ok, but bitching about how they used to be doesnt change a thing. Besides, history repeats itself and all that bullshit, and raves will fall back into the underground again and be held in warehouses, and then some people will bitch about that. >tl;dr quit bitching about change, itll come back eventually
>really unique locations (IE, in the woods, in abandoned warehouses, in caves etc) >illegal but still coordinated and controlled (IE bouncers are hired to watch the entrance, control any bad behavior,collect money for wristbands/entrance fee) >professional soundsystem/a few big generators to power the lasers/strobes/lights/dj equipment etc >sometimes paths to the rave are lit with candles or markings >100-250 people (300 is pushing it but still ok) >lots of people on drugs, namely mdma/coke/weed/alcohol/NO2 (if the scene is good and maintained then most of these people are not a nuisance, most just dancing as anyone else would) >starts from 11-12 midnight ends 7am-11am >techno music (absolutely 0 edm or mainstream) >good atmosphere, lots of friendly people >main age range is 18-30 (some older +30's but very very few)
kek at all the people saying they fuck >18's at raves. thats never seen, especially in the good/professional rave scenes. like yea sure if you go to some shitty hardstyle rave in some hillbilly ridden shit hole then yeah sure but if you are looking for quality raves then no that shit doesnt happen.
>>597159167 Europeans have developed the scene a million times more in the past 20 years, not long ago you were all into "hip hop" and nu metal. Now America has jumped on the bro drop roid "raves" come off it m8 Europe is just electronically superior
>>597129752 Man... I could type for hours.. Rave scene is very alive in Spain and Portugal. We still have real free parties like the old times... Oldfag here.. 32... Still smoke weed every day... Used to rave almost every weekend... Portugal have warm climate so free parties are held in the nature... Sound system and 100 people.. Friends from friends... If you are curious about.. Check goabase.com and check parties in portugal and then Spain... Funny thing is we could maintain pure parties burning man alike without brands or marketing products.. So if you want to experience the biggest rave in Europe in a still almost pure environment.. Search for boom festival... Held each two years... With guests from more than 120 countries... Most people say its not a real rave.. But have In mind its not a regular festival since there are no adds or publicity.. Or mirrors.. Or buildings.. Just pure nature... Have 100 stories from small parties to 40.000 people pure raves...
>>597144259 Not that I can recall since I was usually off my head. Though there was this one time I walked into an orgy in the toilet during a Halloween rave. I can greentext if anyone wants but its nothing special.
If you ever do come down to London just make sure you bring a few quality friends with you to watch your back. There's always an extremely rare chance some random douche starts shit which is usually why you always only hear about "that one guy who went to that rave and got killed" whenever people talk about the rave scene here even though raves happen all the time without casualties.
Even if it's just you by yourself you'll probably be fine since the whole atmosphere is just really crazy and friendly
Sadly I haven't been to any foam parties yet since something always came up. I hear these can get really wild since they're filled with wet girls and horny people.
Expect less personal space then you're used to though since these things usually attract a lot of people here in London.
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