Hey /b/ I have fucked up big time.
One question first though, what is rape?
BACKSTORY: Me and this girl were at my flat, home alone, first time I met her, and she was by no means a slut, and I would not be someone she would fuck under normal circumstance, but we were smoking weed, and fell asleep at about 1am together in the same bed (she consentfully slept in my bed, it wasn't a sexual gesture, it was either my bed or the floor) but at about 4am, I woke up, and instinctivly cuddled her, and, low and behold, we ended up fucking. When we woke up in the morning, we didn't talk about it, and I bought it up this evening, and she said she thought it was a dream, and she seems pissed. She said, word for word, "come on man thats not cool" But its not like I forced her to do anything right? She was smiling throughout it, and it was sensual, but its not something shed usually do? Did I take advantage of her? We wouldnt have been still stoned, as it was like 3 hours later, and we didn't smoke that much, but still....
Am I a rapist? Did I do anything wrong? IF she wanted to press charges, would i be a rapist for starting it?
pic from our txts
If a girls accuses you of rape, you are pretty much fucked under ANY circumstances. Anyway she IS a slut, she absolutely knew what was happening, the "I thought it was a dream" it's big bullshit.
Man, you are screwed.
You stupid faggot wanted to talk about it afterwards? You brought this onto yourself, you imbecile.
And texting? You're a prosecutor's wet dream - if she wants to fuck up your life, you've given her a free pass.
Please go die in a freak accident involving dildos, a chain saw and rope.
>I thought it was a dream
OP actually believes her roflmao
Pig. If you have sex with a girl that hasn't specifically said "it is okay for you to penetrate me until completion" and then afterwards says, " it was okay for you to have penetrated me to completion" then you have raped and committed patriarchy
I hope you burn in hell after you get raped to death in prison you white male privilege.
>And texting? You're a prosecutor's wet dream - if she wants to fuck up your life, you've given her a free pass.
Also, this. Good job OP.
Keep the texts, if tries to play the rape card in court you're gonna need them. Just bring up a "look it was a mistake on both our parts, it happened but we may as well just have enjoyed the moment, neither of us said anything about it."
You seriously fucking rolled over at 4am and put on a condom?
>If you have sex with a girl that hasn't specifically said "it is okay for you to penetrate me until completion" and then afterwards says, " it was okay for you to have penetrated me to completion" then you have raped
This is literally the most ridiculously powerful card a woman has in the court, and it's so fucking dumb. There can be no verbal contact between the two of you, you could undress her and she could not resist at all, and even go along with it, but the moment she says "I didn't give him my consent, and I was scared" she has pretty much already won the case because she didn't say "fuck me in the ass anon."
you are obviously patriarchy.
make since though, since 2 out of five women are raped in their life time. that means 2 out of 5 men rape in their life times. you are privileged and it reaks.
bullshit. she is testing you. read about shittests.
you both enjoyed it and now she is testing if you can handle stress and have good self esteem. make some jokes about it and say you think it was wonderful, though. and normally you wouldnt admit it, but you are even a little hurt because you thought she enjoyed it too.
if shee keeps on being a bitch, say that you are not ashamed of yourself doing something that you both wanted.
ffs why do i go on this site again? betas everywhere and no evil minds anymore.
READ ABOUT SHITTESTS YOU IDIOT NEEDY WUSSY
she wanted evidence.
she is probably mad she whored herself out to another person for drugs. save the texts. she says she thought it was a dream, so she obviously knew what was going on and didnt reject it.
>implying only men have privilege
Have fun yelling at a wall because no one cares about what you have to say
Also what's wrong with patriarchy? It has only given us our entire civilisation
i also did that once and she was pulling a,lmost the same words as your bitch did and i didnt bend to her, but did what i just told you and we ended up as fuckbuddys. you fucking moron really.
and your belief "i couldnt get her in usual ways" is limiting yourself. you just did it didnt you? she wanted it didnt she? and now where you could make a fuckbuddy you care about the fucking rapeshit man. this is why you will always be a looser if you dont change.
im blocking this beta site now. fuck you all, no brothers on here anymore.
how is she suppose to object or resist with patriarchy?
males are privileged
the only recourse it to prosecute to the fullest extent that the laws allow (not enough if you ask me)
your comment is rape culture
I it okay man i do this all the time. You should not have brought it up and do it another few times until she brought it up. You might have ended up with a fuckbuddy or girlfriend. Ps.it was not rape and if you don't mention it again and keep it cool and casual she won't get you in trouble. Act like it is no big deal.
I'm going to bed now, wont be replying anymore, please post pictures of bricks so when I wake up i can see them.
Ugh this site disgusting me now. It seems like its always summer now sigh. Hey retard, you fucked. Stop being a bitch about it. Either continue fucking her or stop talking to her, that simple. And as far as incrimiating your self. Usually something as serious as rape is not usually shrugged off as possibly being a dream. Your fine with your text. These people are retarded and can't speech check a no receipt return.
What do you mean by "starting it"? Like did you initiate foreplay? Or did you stick your penis in her, and just start fucking her before she "woke up"?
She'd have a very hard time getting rape charges on you. She didn't say no, and was willingly participating to the best of your judgement.
At this point the police are super skeptical, and if she did go to them she'd likely be shamed away from pursuing charges.
If it goes to court the whole thing is going to hinge on your testimony since technically you're the only witness.
You really only need to prove 2 things.
1. You're intentions were not to take advantage of her.
2. She was willingly having sex w/ you.
Guys i have a similar problem.
Im been hanging out with a girl for a while, and we usually gets all sexual and grabby when cuddling, wanking eachother off and whatnot, but recentlh she said she "doesnt want to do anything sexual at home" probably cause she lives with her mom, but still when we kiss, goes into making out, and she starta grabbing my dick, so of course i go for her tits.
And now 2 weeks later she says she hates me and our friendship is over cause she feels abused and manipulated. She even linked me a "what is sexual abuse" webpage and said she could report me.
Wtf /B, im scared
if you weren't anonymous, i could have you arrested for intellectual rape. you know that you're privilege is wrong, and that thing in between your legs is rape culture.
>gf is 17
>parents gone out of town for the weekend and she comes over
>make out, etc. we've never had sex at this point though
>hand up her shirt, she enjoys it
>she feels up dick
>start to take her shirt off
>she doesn't resist or anything
>she takes off my pants and proceeds with blowjob
>take her pants off and eat her out
>we still don't have sex, just finish from oral
>she leaves a couple hours later after we eat a pizza and watch How I Met Your Mother
>calls me later that night crying and accusing me of forcing her blow me
>she tells her parents I tried to rape her
>cops come to my door the next morning
>woopwoop to the station
>have to fill out witness report and get questioned (super embarrassing process mind you)
>go to court a couple months later
>explain my case thoroughly
>judge asks "at any point did she offer you her consent"
>I state she never directly said yes, however she initiated in taking it past making out
>her lawyer objects and says that she clearly stated no towards me removing her clothing
>this is bs but I can't prove it
>judge favors her due to that simple aspect, but he lets me off with a pretty small punishment
>lucky she wasn't a minor (by state)
>have 12 months probation with 300 hours of CS
All because of oral, now imagine if it was sex.
You should have lied and gotten a better lawyer. This is what happens when you are cheap/poor fag. If I was a nigger I would be a felon by now. Because I am white and not a nigger. I have no record. L2 lawyer up properly bro.
>Am I a rapist?
no, if you are in america you are potentially fucked if she goes to the police, especially since as she (appears to be) the drugs/free sex/tatoos/piercing/lie about being raped type.
>Did I do anything wrong?
yes, you beta'd out the following day. If you know weed, you are completely aware. It is because you became a pussy, you should have just said "you were good last night, let's go get breakfast."
>IF she wanted to press charges, would i be a rapist for starting it?
In america, you are fucked, just the accusation will fuck up your life for many years. In saner countries she has to provide evidence.
>tfw our justice system is determined by how pricey our law offices are
my advice man, is to get her to meet in person. tell her that the fact that she didn't mean to have sex without is heartbreaking, because you think you might love her.
probably she will just feel too sorry for you to press charges.
I'm not in america, BUT HOLY SHIT BALLS I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE JOKING!??
So when it comes to rape in "the land of freedom" (america) you have to PROVE you're innocent?
So much for "innocent until proven guilty"
If you live in Cali you're super fucked, they just passed some BS law there were if you don't verbally consent it is 100% rape.
AKA, if she didnt say "I want to have sex with you" you're going to prison.
captcha: allegations phywal
Lol, what do you want? This is our system. If I had gotten a public defender in my last case or a shitty lawyer. I would have had to worn ankle bracelet for 6-12 months. Paid over a thousand dollars for it. Paid court fees. And have a record. Instead I get Johnnie Cochran of my court house. I get to hear how my charge is invalid because I broke no actual law(lol). Than the prosecutor was a cunt and instead of dropping it. Held out for a gay plea bargain where I settled for a civil thing to avoid a possible raping. Point being, you pay. You are innocent. You poor, your a nigger in prison.
the astounding thing is that you clearly don't even see that you victimized her.
you never even asked if she wanted the sexual encounter. how was she to answer yes or no?
further more, you didn't even ask after the fact if she still consented.
you raped her without prior consent or post rape consent.
the poor girl probably doesn't even know what damage you did to her.
i image you had some sort of man judge, because he didn't give you prison time.
so on top of raping the girl b/c you're too fucking beta to make your moves on a conscious person, you go right on to incriminate yourself.
>But I'm so so sorry'
yeah you're fucked. i don't feel sorry for you, idiot.
my comment wasn't for op
but to answer your question: no. you are patriarchy.
it is impossible to be raped by a woman. op is in a position of dominance and rape culture forced her to fear saying no to him.
if she doesn't consent both before the sexual exchange and after, then op has committed rape.
Cuddling means initiation of sexual intercourse? Lol
OP hasnt committed rape, she clearly consented to intercourse. There is no way a person can have sex with someone and "think" it was a dream, no fucking way. You are a complete fuckwit.
Nothing will happen unless she is batshit insane or a tumblr bitch.
Doesn't change the fact that you are a fucking moron for texting her and saying that. Way to potentially fuck your life up
Adding to that, if someone is not "half asleep" then she cannot say she didnt consent.
We are in a world where females can say they were raped if they had consented sex for years with the same partner because their partner cooked their bacon wrong
no...cuddling is an indicator of consciousness, so he wasn't asleep.
that's b/c she was asleep. there's either asleep or awake. there is no in between.
so OP raped her while she was asleep.
she doesn't consent after the fact. so he obviously did rape.
furthermore she was victimized while on a mind altering drug. op clearly stated she felt comfortable sleeping over because he had resisted raping her the previous time. he provided her a false sense of safety and struck when she was sleeping.
it's patriarchy,how can you not see that?
Ya dun goofed.
Run hard, run fast. run far.
Your old life is over. You are persona non-grata. There isn't even time to say goodbye to your loved ones.
Don't stop running.
How can you say she was victimized while on a mind altering drug when he was on the same drug? lol. Im all for females having equal rights because its deserved.. but this is completely abuse of being a female.
She couldnt have been asleep through all of that if she remembers it or "thought it was a dream"
>and I would not be someone she would fuck under normal circumstance, but we were smoking weed
>and I would not be someone she would fuck under normal circumstance, but we were smoking weed
>and I would not be someone she would fuck under normal circumstance, but we were smoking weed
and here's why you are guilty of rape:
> I would not be someone she would fuck under normal circumstance
Op, it's not rape but the world is full of retards. Text her:
>you were smiling and made it clear you were enjoying it
>you were clearly coherent
>so it pisses me off when sluts like you cop out and pretend nothing happened so you don't have to come to terms that you're a slut
This will cover you legally. She will undoubtedly message you some incriminating evidence against her back.
People remember parts of their dreams. It sounds like she remembers the whole thing. She couldnt have been asleep. If she was asleep im sure he would have figured it out if he kissed her....
if a person is intoxicated and gets in a car and runs over another intoxicated person they have committed involuntary man slaughter. its a crime
if they are both under the influence and he rapes then HE RAPED. it doesn't NOT make it rape because he decided to use drugs before getting the courage up to rape.
you are oppression
lol...people only remember "parts" of everyday life. nobody remembers everything 100%.
> It sounds like she remembers the whole thing.
does it? how?
>She couldnt have been asleep.
she said she was asleep. it's her word against an apologetic rapist's.
ofc she remembers what happened, the fact that you used a condom shows that you guys were awake...
i had the same thing once but at least we stopped just before we had sex. this girl got really pissed at me after because 'she didnt want it'. but we did make out for a long time while in her bed together... girls tend to forget the difference between shame for fucking you and wanting to fuck you at that time
just dont talk to her again because your relationship with her is fucked anyway. i almost never talk to his friend anymore because it is still awkward.
you got lucky, one time sex is way better than having a whorefriend like that anyway
I really have to say, I have no idea why anyone is responding to you. Sorry anon, but you are so blatantly trolling its sad. Don't put on the crazy hat until further into the troll.
Smiling and asleep DURING sex? Okay man. If she was asleep im sure he would have noticed it as he kissed her. If he noticed it and is lying and she was dead asleep then im sure it was rape, but going off of what hes saying he didnt rape.
Exactly, if she was in Stage 3 - REM sleep she would have been "paralyzed" where the bodies muscles tense up to stop people acting out their dreams. If she was in the earlier stages of sleep then she would have woken up due to it being a "light" sleep stage.
>I thought it was dream
Bitch please you gotta be pretty heavily drugged for not wake up to someone fucking you. Regret it all you might but your drunk actions are still your decisions and it's not rape when you haven't clearly stated that you don't want it. As other anons have said,OP, you fucked up when you decided to text to her about that, no one is gonna believe your story if she decides to accuse you of rape.
he did rape.
she doesn't consent. she though she was having a nightmare. he penetrated her most sacred of places and used her body to relieve his sick desires.
how anyone would want to do that to a sleeping intoxicated powerless young woman is beyond me.
you are gender bias
she let u fuck her but now she's pretending she didn't. be careful it sounds like she wants her 'rape card' and wants to run around whining about how she was raped. don't let her. say she let you and she knows it.
If a heterosexual women who is not related to you willingly decides to sleep with you in your bed, she is telling you to sex her. She was probly laying there waiting for it for a long ass time and thought you were a retard for actually just going to sleep to begin with.
Thus far seems shes not in a "omg he raped me" kind of mindset but rather feels bad for swinging open her hatch and letting you plow her. I'm guessing she has a boyfriend or some omega on standby that she was considering promoting to "my new boyfriend Ill use till I get something better," and this threw a wrench in the works. For fuck sake it wasnt even alcohol it was weed lol, you really think she didnt notice she was HAVING SEX with you cause she smoked week 3 hours prior? Bitch please.
This is the pathetic and terrifying new fate men in this country have to face now, having a girl come over to your house and party and later engage in consensual sex in your own bed has gone from an achievement to be happy about to a moral dilemma and fear of prosecution.
What is left to enjoy in life anymore?
I dont see anywhere that she stated it was a nightmare?
Not in REM or Stage 3-4 sleep, go read up. You dont make any movements or facial expressions during those phases. Ive studied Psychology and Altered States of Awareness
You didn't do anything wrong. Morally.
Legally she can press charges and you will be in jail immediately. Double standards when it comes to this shit. Apparently even after you've fucked a girl, if the next morning she thought it was a bad idea, she can legally claim it as rape. 'tis a fucked up world we live in
This girl seems alright though. She may be pissed, but in the small amount of info I have on her, she'll forget it
Excuse me but you keep calling this person a he and the other one a her without asking them what they identify as. You're disrespectful kind is a disgrace to humanity and you should be ashamed you neanderthal.
really hoping this is a troll or fuck you guise are sick with your rape fear.
IT'S NOT A FUCKING RAPE IF; she doesn't resist, or doesn't say no, or doesn't tell you to stop.
If one of the abowe happens, and you don't stop, it's a rape.
IN ANY OTHER SITUATION, IT'S NOT A FUCKING RAPE!
even if she decided she doesn't wanna press charges, it was sex without consent.
if only there was some sort of mathematical equation that could illustrate the meaning of rape..... oh wait...>>583697608
How have you all taken this shitposting troll's bait so hard, my god.