/sg/ - Ski General #6
Go big or go home edition
>I've never skied before, what do I need to know before I start?
>What skis should I get?
>What boots should I get?
It is extremely important to get boots that fit you well and to have them heat moulded. Therefore, it is very important to go to a professional bootfitter (not just a ski shop, but specifically a bootfitter). For a list of reputable bootfitters, refer to epicski.com/wiki/boot-fitters-on-epicski
You can also consider getting custom footbeds for increased comfort and performance. If you are a beginner this is not that important (though getting boots from a bootfitter is), but if you are an advanced-expert skier it will make a big difference.
>Why is it so important to go to a bootfitter?/I went to a bootfitter and still have a problem, what's wrong?
>What bindings should I get?
The most important things to consider with bindings are DIN range and brake width. Your DIN should be around the middle of your binding's DIN range. For example, if you ski with a DIN of 7, a 4-12 binding would be good for you. A 1-7 or a 7-16 would be bad. If you don't know your DIN, look up a DIN chart.
The brake width should be approximately equal to the waist of the ski. It's better for the brake to be a little smaller than a little bigger (ski shop techs can bend the brakes when they mount the bindings), but if you go more than 7mm or so smaller the brakes might not fit well. Going up to about 10mm wider on the brakes is alright too as long as you don't carve really aggressively.
>Where should I ski?
Right now: onthesnow.com/skireport.html
In general: onthesnow.com/ski-resort.html
>I suck at skiing, how can I get better?
Stop being a faggot and huck something big. Or post video of you skiing ITT and we'll critique it.
>Is it true that only faggots snowboard?
Second for no snow.
>this will continue until end of next year
>next years summer might be hotter than this one
oh for fucks sake
Depends on how many times the boots have been worn and how weird your feet are. If they have been worn a couple hundred times the liner is going to be mostly worthless. If you have odd shaped feet they aren't going to fit well in a boot that is going to be 'ok' for a standard-ish foot. This is assuming they fit you properly in the first place. First time I went I lucked out and they rented me new boots, felt great. If you are going to stick with it buy your own boots. Either go to a boot fitter, something like rei that has people who actually ski, or find how to properly measure your foot, length width instep calf, and buy some online. If you have weird feet avoid online.
>you will never watch danial bryan take a big fat hornswoggle sized vegan shit into brie's mouth
Literally the worst advice you can give. You're only supposed to wear a single pair of thin socks. If you can fit thick socks or multiple pairs of socks into your boots they're too big.
For really cold weather I've gotten second pair of insoles to the shells and carved them out so that I can drop a handwarmer under the shell's insole. Warms up the bottom of the boot and keeps your feet nice and warm even when it starts getting really cold outside. Best part is that I don't have to deal with battery packs and wires.
Decided to go skiing today for the third time. Took your guys advice and leaned forward more with my hands up and was able to control better. Went down the blue runs easily aside from the patches of ice. Gopro didn't feel like working so no video. Thanks for the help anons.
Ignore this idiot too. He's right about only wearing one pair, but synthetic is better than wool, and while thick socks are bad, ski socks should generally not be excessively thin either.
I personally like the Darn Tough synthetic socks. Just go to a ski shop or even REI-type store and get some synthetic ski socks.
If you wear thick socks or two pairs of socks, the boots will be too tight and restrict circulation and make you more cold.
If that's not the case it's because your boots are too big.
Darn tough socks
I like wool just for smell reasons, most days I just wear my rugby socks, but I do love my one pair of darn tough ski socks.
Fucking love my other darn tough socks too, I wonder if they ship to New Zealand
>mfw mad eastcoasters and eurokeks
The west coast and Rocky mountains thank you for your sacrifice.
Anyone touring here?
Pic related, from a couple of days ago. Short trip, 600 vertical meters. Very hard snow. Also went for a trip yesterday, but hungover so could only go 150-200 vertical meters before giving up. Some fresh snow, beautiful weather. Really annoying I couldn't go further, as the ride down was great but very short. Today it was windy as fuck, poor conditions. Western Norway.
OK guys, this is my first edit ever. I only got 2 runs recorded cuz I wasn't working it right and to embarrassed to ask someone if my light was on.
This is also from my first day this year.
Filmed on sj4000 for like 70$
Rate me, who wants to go ride with me in Utah?
You have machines to make moguls? I took pic related today, these things, they are made by skiers but they definitely aren't soft
Went skiing for a 4th and 5th time. Getting good enough that I find the blues and 1 black run that are open pretty easy. Started going over small jumps to get used to falling/landing if I ever want to huck it over a cliff in the future, fell a time or 2 in the beginning because I landed in the backseat. Need to clean up the parallel turns to make them nicer, have minor 2 stepping and A-framing sometimes. Legs were tired as hell the second day and my skiing got really sloppy, was catching inside edges and was more wobbly than the first day. Overall had a lot of fun, all of the blacks should be opening by the end of this week and the change of pace will be interesting.
50 min video of my mediocre skiing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o97m8QryYGo
Bunch of random ass stats from my watch: https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1001295715
PS Fuck snowboarders sitting across the hill at the top. If they are blocking the whole path I have started just bulldozing through them.
I am going to Stowe, Vermont in a week and a half. Has anyone been there? What's it like? The biggest pile of earth I've skied on is 400 feet tall, whereas Stowe's vertical is something like 2300. What should I expect? Any pointers for my first real mountain?
Stowe is lovely, expensive but lovely, the village at the bottom of the hill is great. The mountain is pretty good too. Stowe is not known for huge amounts of powder.
If memory serves the Mexican place is particularly good to eat at. And you can get hot apple cider literally everywhere you go.
Just explore, find something that you like. It's not a small mountain, so there will be something there just for you.
Dang I missed this, wasn't at the bird today though either, right now I have 2 tickets for Brighton and access to a pass that I don't want to go into detail how I get.
I normally work monday-friday but have the greenlight to skip on powder days. I ski nights on weekdays at Brighton and then snowbird when I can.
I also just got skins recently, would like to be going up before work early morning, but I don't have avalanche gear yet and don't really wanna die. Well I guess I'm more okay with dying then becoming quadriplegic, which I know someone who is now from an avalanche.
Reply to me again if your serious about riding together
Finally back in Utah. Elevator and Diaganol are so much fun right now.
Alright, faggot. Let's test that theory. Let's ride together and see which one of us is better.
I'll ski with both of you. firstname.lastname@example.org
Snowbird every day
Mine. Minnesota and Utah, mostly Snowbird.
The Bunch just released Finito, and god damn is it the best fucking ski movie I've ever seen. They captured the spirit of skiing so well and it is a perfect finale for their trilogy of movies.
are there any reliable sources for predicting long term snowfall? I was looking into a places to spend a winter on a mountain and I was curious where you guys think has the best conditions all season long
This is what happens when you huck something with your DINs too low...
Yeah, Vail is pretty great, it gets pretty busy during peak times, so just don't go during Christmas if you don't want to be surrounded by tourists you idiot.
Good terrain, not the best in the world, but pretty damn good.
lulz, when I was very new to skiing in the mountains (first week of my life skiing powder) (I live in the midwest) my DINs were only at 3 and my skis would pop off just from trying to turn in powder
Not really. Vail isn't that great. Has one good cliff band, that's all it has going for it. If you want good terrain go to Utah, Montana, Wyoming, or the Northwest.
damnit - I need to check this I went riding today; but I actually went to brighton night skiing. I had plans to take my black diamond head lamp for powder runs in the trees but I left it home. Most the footy from today was pretty gay.
I'll email you I will probably be at the bird on Sunday either on Little cloud or mineral basin.
I might make a gay edit with footy from today just because I am trying to practice with the camera cuz right now i suck.
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I think I'll be there tomorrow. Probably skiing with a friend for a few hours in the morning in the Gad 2 area, you'd be welcome to ski with us if you can keep up. Otherwise I'd be down to ski with you in the afternoon after he leaves if I'm not too tired by then.
Email me with your phone number if you want to meet up tomorrow, I'm probably getting off for the night pretty soon but I'll check my email in the morning and text you if I've heard from you.
You have the wrong gear? With the right gear you can enjoy it, couple drinks will keep you warm - have drank 4/5 days on the hill this season.
I'm going tomorrow and I'm bringing a full bottle of wine in a water bottle
Still haven't heard from you via email and I'm about to head out. Planning to get to Gad 2 around 10:30 and stay there a few hours at least. I'll be in all black, Contour camera on my helmet, and blue Minnesota sticker on my helmet. I have a beard. Find me.
Thoughts on boots compatible with alpine and AT bindings? I'm a novice skier, mostly blue runs, but am taking lessons all this season at Mammoth (praise El Niño btw). Hoping to get into backcountry either this year or next. The bootfitter recommended the tecnica Cochise 100 and it felt pretty good demoing it for two days. OTOH another bootfitter recommended the Lange xc 120, which is wider and larger volume and fits me even better, but isn't compatible with AT bindings. What do? Sacrifice AT for a better downhill boot, and get separate AT boots later? Or compromise with one boot that does resort and backcountry?
Sorry bro, got jacked on the traverse on little cloud first run at like 945 this morning, broke heels off my bindings on 1 ski, went to emergency room, was a bitch, ended up with bruised femur.
What do you guys think of this package for a pair of all mountains?
The context is that I maybe get to the slopes less than 2 weeks a year but am willing to pay for near or about average shit.
I am trying to get in to skiing more, though I cannot yet go past blue runs.
a guy fell off the chair right in front of mine today, right after the last tower in pic, face down on flat. Luckily it was near the top so the lifty saw right away. My friend and I both have our first aid and were first on the scene, the guy was pretty KO'd, just kind of moaning and not responding to anything. After we secured c-spine a patroller showed up and took it from there, and we helped with getting him on the spine board and into the toboggan. He was pretty much fully aware by the time patrol took him down, but it was still really scary when he was unresponsive. He didn't seem to have any spinal injuries, which was extremely lucky considering he wasn't wearing a helmet. Definitely using the bar all the time from now on.
Ability to perform well, and for longer is directly proportional to your fitness. Don't delude yourself by thinking otherwise.
Core strength, legs, and cardio are pretty damn important.
It's pretty handy, if you're going skiing I'd recommend some general physical preparedness training, and if you're really into it then you will probably be benefited by strength training
Am I the only one who thinks that newschoolers is the biggest circlejerk on the internet?
It's actually a snowboard jacket, I've always taken to snowboard styling over skiing's even though I ski. I can't remember the name and I'm on crutches so not gonna check but I'll update it when I can.
The helmet is new that my gf got me for Xmas it a bolle, the Oakley's are a-frames
Hmmm, are you sure? Your probably right. I've never talked to them. I'm used to running from them... Somehow the word patrol in my mind is associated with law enforcement. I know some of them are sherrifs and can put you in cuffs for cutting ropes etc.
Also how they hate on people doing new tricks, ie DOUBLES ONTO RAILS, but then they love people who do 540s and wave their arms around, its worse than the Reddit of skiing, its even more single minded than Reddit.
bro skiing isn't fun anymore if they do dubs onto rails!! bring back style!! omg look how he slid that rail with no tricks onto it, on it or off of it! Oh wait he leaned back a bit!
I hate everything about it and I hate the fucking ringleader bishop that fucking retard cunt. Grown the fuck up and stop hanging out with a bunch of squeaky saga-whoring faggots.
I used to be so into NS. But now, fuck no
I don't ski much in Minnesota anymore but I used to ski mostly Power Ridge, sometimes Mount Kato, Giants Ridge, and Spirit Mountain. Then I worked at Afton Alps for a few years (liftie and instructor). And I go to Wild Mountain/Trollhaugen when nowhere else is open. I mostly just ski Snowbird now though. Where in Colorado do you ski?
So... You basically ski everywhere if you go anywhere from Powder Ridge to Kato lol. I started skiing at Welch then I started going to Afton for their superior park.
Actually as stupid as this is I don't have my skis out here. I race bikes so I have all that out here. The passes were expensive and my skis are not in out-west condition. So, I'm only skiing when I'm home hah. Been out like 4 days this year. If I was out here it'd be Purg, telluride, wolf creek, etc
Maybe 2 weeks, straight landed on a rock covered by snow. Here are a few pics of where I wrecked.
Bishop is the problem, he makes out that he is unbiased, but is obviously. Annoys the shit out of me.
I see this movement because people watch LSM, and think
"Boy, I can go out tomorrow and do those tricks!" While they watch any of the pros and they go "ew triples" because they have no chance of ever getting that good.
Yeah he's the biggest manchild I've ever seen.
Hmm, I've never thought of it that way. Makes sense, I know I've thought that way before. Problem is, LSM's tricks are "simpler" but are still pretty hard. Not saying they're triple level, but still difficult I'd say. Still shows the maturity level of that fucking site.
Gonna be in utah soon, not a lot of money, so what's the cheapest way to get lift tickets to any of the cottonwood canyons places(Alta, snowbird, Brighton, solitude). Or if anyone is really in, im looking to get a job on the mountain for about a year before college, maybe more.
Mount Washington on Vancouver Island this week, looks good!
as bad as NS and some of the hype around park/free skiing goes, i still love it. its just fun and satisfying and just another way of expressing yourself through some form of physical activity youd enjoy. everyone likes to do things their own way, and park/freesking in general has alot of possibilities, and still has a lot of great content IMO. some skiers really do make great work.
I'm not denying that I love freeskiing, skifriend. I just hate the users on that fucking site. I'll watch edits from time to time, but I never read their """"""""""journalism""""""""""" or go to the forums anymore. It's just too diseased.
i'm always down to shred
>mfw the person shilling skiboars reveals himself to be a person of darker skin color
Not a shill. Everyone has their own tastes and I've made a total of like 6 posts over the past 3 months.
None of which by any means try to say that skiboards are superior to skis.
No harm and no disrespect to anyone ever meant (both here and on the mountain). Hell, you guys are lucky that I am too depressed about no snow in the Northeast to call the Secret Black Council of Obama, Sam Jackson and Oprah about the flippant use of the word Nigger around these parts.
Kidding, if you give me a pass on the skiboards, I'll give you a pass on saying nigs...just NEVER say it around around black people on a mountain. They're either rich or connected enough to make a big deal about it with management or they are "urban youth" on a day away from the ghetto trip where they'll do a drive by on the ski lodge
Anyone here ski Crystal or Summit Central?
I know the latter is shit tier and teeny tiny but I figured I would include it.
Anons, what is AT MOST, the longest you are willing to commute to a mountain. This is running on the assumption it has been a while and you are going to be skiing all day (but not night).
yoooo thats my home mountain
going up this weekend, get fucking h y p e
Should touring boots fit slightly roomier given that you might be hiking/climbing in them? Since you'd never get mountaineering/hiking boots that are super tight. The two bootfitters consulted disagree.
I've just moved from Colorado to Los Angeles. I was told to expect a good year what with the Christ Child and all, but the reports don't look good. If they do get better, where the fuck should I go? I like to ski trees, backcountry, deep powder, cliffs, expert terrain etc.
Do any of the SoCal mountains have much potential, or are they just bunny hills for beginners and park rats?
/r/ing info on where to ski in socal.
Mt baldy is a tiny resort with some interesting off piste areas. Big bear lake has a couple of modest resorts. All mostly locals spots, take the senpai, bunny hills. People also skin up some of the local peaks in the San Gabriel and San Bernardino mountains and ski down. It's usually too warm to have real powder though. You need to get up to Mammoth for a massive resort, cliffs etc. And then there's the entire Sierra Nevada for real backcountry, pic related
What's the advantage of a ski jacket over a hiking rain jacket? I've been skiing with a Patagonia rain shell over my layers and it seems to be work. Just don't want to buy *another* technical upper layer.
They tend to have more features such as powder skirts, goggle pockets, etc, and often have more robust construction because skiing is a more physical sport.
Lower end rain coats may also not be seam sealed, a problem I ran into back in my cheap gear days. After skiing a few days with a low-end Columbia rain jacket, it leaked like a sieve in the rain.
You just ski it. Don't use a forward agressive style, ride on top of the snow. In steep hill you might want to throw your skis around when turning, to keep speed down a bit. Use skis with rocker in the tip atleast, but tip+tail rocker or full rocker is usually better. 100+ waist, depending on depth of powder, how loose it is and your size.
Yeah, shame. He'll be back though to win again.
Is it just me that think it's more exiting with a race where there are few accidents and a close field, than the kitsbuhel-bullshit this weekend?
Streif was in absolute dogshit shape for that race. Unskiable desu and they made the correct decision to stop the race after 30 skiers. Just imagine the carnage the back markers would've caused when even top of the pack had 3 guys go out that badly. Those airbag thingies some of the racers have are pretty cool though. And make for good comical reliefs after crashes, that is of course when they can walk it off.
That course is hard enough even when it's in perfect shape and it was a fucking potato field for some parts of the course. It would've probably been in better shape if it didn't dump snow for the night before the race.
And those fucking slalom courses... If 40 guys don't finish the first round the course setter hasn't succeeded. I'm all for marking hard and technical courses but you've gotta keep it within reasonable limits. A course that hardly anyone can finish doesn't make for good racing.
And yeah it makes much more fun to watch if you've got multiple people legitimately fighting for the win. Watching women's speed events has been Lindsey wins again for all season while slalom was Mikaela wins before she got hurt. Can't wait for Maze and Fenninger to get back on skis for next season. Might even get some legitimate contest on the women's events.
Are we ever going to get full length Wengen and Kitzbuhel downhill races in the same season? It feels like there's always something with the weather forcing them shorten the course on at least one of them.
Okanagan Valley, British Columbia here.
Got some decent snow, went up today but just wasn't feeling it for some reason... pissed me off.
Anyone else try to pick up girls on the chairlift? I never seem to get seated next to cuties.
Ask if they are familiar, say you are new to the resort (assuming you are of course), and want some tips about where to ride etc. Take it from there. Even try just asking the time, it's an opening. Hopefully the conversation can evolve from that, if not, no big loss.
I know all that, in theory. Putting it to practise is what's the hard part. I try to talk to people daily and get better on this stuff though. And I'm fine interacting with people I know even remotely already. Where I'm still struggling is starting a conversation with a complete stranger but I'm getting there.
I'm not even that ugly and in great shape so I could even have some success if I could overcome my autism.