Poor execution of the ending. To this day, people still don't get that the author meant for them to stay together after the story ended. Taken on it's own, it looks like they dated for 2 weeks then broke up, admittedly a bit anticlimactic.. Look at the ln and his interviews though, and it's clear that they stay together. Now, you can say it's a cop out in that he didn't go through and have it animated/written that way, but that's the way the regulations were, at least according to him.
Even putting aside all the romance, you could look at it as a story of the 2 siblings coming to terms with a damaged relationship and fixing it in their own way.
Plus a minority of people who for some reason hate best girl.
I can't speak for /a/ and I'm a secondary, but from what I remember, the whole series was Kirino getting rewarded for being a shit and being a generally shitty imouto.
i.e: >Kirino: yadda yadda shitpost shitpost >Brother MC: Kirino you shit! Let's go to the beach with friends! >Kirino: Waah! -fang mouth- >Best day ever for shitty imouto ensues.
Proceed to next episode >Kirino: shitpost shitpost fang mouth, butt wiggle, no development >Brother: I love her!
The show was okay, but Kirino was an intolerable little shit and I really don't want to rewatch it to throw some legitimate examples of her shitty attitude. In her defense, she's made for one of the best faps in my life.
>>138440613 Nothing ambiguous about it, watch the last BD extra that was writted by the same Fushimi. They stay in a relationship, now with the approval of everyone that matter in their lives, except for Yoshino.
Because it started out as a lighthearted slice-of-life with some comedy and turned into an overly dramatic harem. Quite frankly, I don't think it did particularly well on either front. I don't think it's necessarily shit, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
>>138441609 The harem genre is more or less defined by sudden, inexplicable and universal female attraction to the MC, the vast majority of which will involve plot and character contrivances which often make the adoration feel unconditional and often unwarranted. Harem is a wish fulfillment genre for - usually - heterosexual men.
This is contrasted to simple romance plotlines, which often involve love triangles and the like. These often feature developed characters with developed and understandable romantic motivations.
>>138441877 Sorry, I don't believe you. You claim that the harem genre is not defined merely by the presence of a single male surrounded by multiple potential love interests, but that these love interests themselves have to be unlikely. However, I've not seen this as the deciding factor in any harem anime or manga that classifies it as a harem.
Can you describe an alternate authoritative mechanism for coming up with anime genre definitions?
Obviously, I came up with the definition on my own through my own experiences. There's no other possible mechanism for any other kind of opinion to exist. There are no anime scientific journals. There are no anime researchers. There is no anime studies department at Harvard.
>>138439008 Because it's a story called My Little Sister Can't be This Cute that pulled the double bait and switch by having a name like that and yet seemingly isn't a story about incest only to turn into a story about incest further down the line.
Basically a lot of people are butthurt because it made them feel stupid.
It doesn't matter on how many girls likes the MC, an harem is an harem because it's an harem, being a shipfag is a different thing. Would you classify Ore Monogatari as an harem? No. Would you classify Shigatsu as an harem? No. Would you classify Dragon Ball as an harem?? No. Oreimo was always about Kyouske and Kirino "Life Counseling" , everything that happened around them just aid the main plot.
>>138442349 It seems you missed the point entirely. It has nothing to do with being social taboo. People are just upset because they jumped to the conclusion it wasn't about incest only to find out it actually was and it makes them feel dumb. More so because they jumped the incest train too early and became invested in other characters.
>>138442312 The problem is you've decided that your definition of harem is the authoritative definition of harem, and series that do not fit the constraints of that are not harem, even though they are generally accepted by everyone else that they are.
It'd be like if I said that action movies are only action movies if they have sex scenes, or scenes where characters tumble around while trying to get naked then cut to two people in bed after sex. Are these scenes common in action movies? Sure. Do they define the genre? No. And for me to say that any action movie that does not have such scenes is not an action movie would make me a fucking idiot. There clearly can be action movies without sex, just as there can be harem series in which the love interests are not necessarily unlikely.
A harem anime will always be unlikely because the proximity it necessitates, the lack of any sort of monogamy contract, real male competition and the like is by definition unlikely.
Harem is a wish fulfillment genre. It necessitates attractive women finding an unlikely protagonist attractive. The unlikely protagonist is the projection for the viewers/readers. As such, the protagonist and the scenario must not validate the likelihood of attraction. If the protagonist was super rich and lived in Saudi Arabia with a bunch of slaves, it wouldn't be a harem anime.
This. That's really all it comes down to, never mind that the premise and sub plots were garbage in the first place. I don't want to say that OreImo is definitive of what Light Novel stories are usually like, but it sure is a great example of why they can be so shit.
Oh you know maybe some people just genuinely didn't like it. I mean there's plenty of obvious reasons right off of the first few episodes alone why it would turn people off and they only grow from there. You basically have to be a card carrying full throttle otaku as a basic entry level requirement to even be able to get anything out of and event then it managed to polarize a lot of people. Light Novels are good at that sort of thing though cause you know shipping and such.
>>138439008 Anime is ok, LN is actually very enjoyable if you like cute wincest. Manami is shit. Kirino is best. Kuroneko is very close to best. Everyone else is ok. Lots of otaku humor, whatever that is. There is a tan loli. That's about all you need to know.
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