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R.I.P.
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>>136849047
That's what you get when you murder innocent gobblies
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>>136849047
Literally who cares?
He was a boring character, just like the rest of the cast excpect Yume
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MANTOOO MANATOOO MANATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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did he die?
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>>136850777
Can't you see? He's dying of laughter.
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They're fucking pathetic, all of them
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>>136851079
Isn't it great?
I'm tired of Sword Art ex Machina.
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who is next?
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Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
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>we can deal with 3 goblins
>let's try attack those hobgoblins
>oh no, I'm dead
Manato you useless fuck.
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They wasted their opportunity of having an undead pet
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Crossover when?
I want to see Yume in Demiurge's happy fun place!
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I want to make Yume a mother.
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>>136850777
>>136850977
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>>136849294
Basically.
What did they even do?
>>136851079
It's called "being green".
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Thank god finally. I've never been more happier because of someone death in my entire life. Good riddance faggot , now you will finally the pure Black Mage alone.
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>>136849047

>Healer is constantly out in the open instead of being shielded by a person at all times.

>They have absolutely no range DPS to speak of.

>They don't have ANY utility abilities or skills to speak of: Thief can't pick pocket, Ranger can't forage for nuts n' berries, and none of the casters can conjure up food and water.

>Picking fights with humanoids purely on the basis that that is the monster you've manage to find as opposed to investing more time in finding and hunting down animals that are actually worth money and made of materials that they can use for crafting.

They've been waltzing around in their starting gear murdering gobbies and have been in the same area long enough that they've drawn the attention of the elite gobblie-goobies. Did they think the goobers would just let them murder them willy-nilly?
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A party filled with autism and retards, what could go wrong? Does it ever show the other group?
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>Hol up guys let me be vanguard even tho I have zero armor and should actually be healing the fat guy with massive armor

He deserved it. Pretty sure the old fart didn't rez him because he is such a scrub.
Rip in piss boon.
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What skills does the other competent party use that makes them not die like retards?
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>>136852966
>Healer is constantly out in the open instead of being shielded by a person at all times.

Someone's stuck with the incorrect mindset that healers can't front-line. That staff isn't a prop.
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>>136851539
Paladinbro.
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>>136853072
Real writer who plays games
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>>136853072
Common sense.
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>>136853111
That only works when you can afford equipment and a competent team.
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reminder
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>>136853111
it's the correct mindset if it's your only healer
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>>136853111
He is not a D&D cleric who can cast divine upgrades, defesive spells and other powerups.
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>>136853333
Nice quads, but you're trying to descibe a level 1/2 healer, who has very limited casts per day, and only access to level 0 and 1 magic.
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>>136853111
Then he should be a paladin or something, not running around in rags with a wooden stick.
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>>136853258
guess that wasn't a good combo
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>>136853405

Wait. They are in a WRPG-like world and not the usual JRPG MMO-Like one?
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>>136853458
nigga Cloth Pallies in WoW were the shit.
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>>136853484
it appears so
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>>136853484
It's seem so.
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>>136853484
Not quite, in the afterword of volume 1, author mentions few games that were inspiration. Dragon Quest, Wizardry, and Final Fantasy are in front of the list, all early entries of those series used spellcasts/day system.
While technically JRPGs, all the old ones used the D&D as base.
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>>136853258
holy shit, can this anime do anything right ?
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>>136853486
Yeah but were they the only one tanking shit?
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>>136849047
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>>136853486
>>136853458
>>136853405
>>136853333
>>136853111

I feel like Manato would have had maybe a little more survivability if he had focused on more of the "priest" class and less of the "cleric" class.

He'd probably have more mana and wouldn't be wasting his time using mana and energy physically engaging enemies while he could be sitting back kissing booboos.

Though, if it's and butts were candy and nuts- the party probably wouldn't have to save up for underpants, so whatever.

Also just on a side note, something that's been annoying me:
>No Druids?
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can you imagine to act as these bozos did and wander around relaxed like that in danger zones?
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>>136853597
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im glad he died. Mary Sue let his guard down.
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Are we going to get an insert song with silent chracters every episode?
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>>136853621
Druids are gay
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Who's next?
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>>136853648
I wanna play the bongos with that ass.
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That mage must have felt so useless with her "dark" magic. Should have gone with destruction magic instead. Dont even get me started with the ranger.
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Will MC lead them now?
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>>136853621
Pretty much. He said his order isn't allowed to use swords but bashing gob's faces in with a huge hammer is ok.
He could also have some nice magic shield skills for defense.
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>>136853621
>more survivability
>by going with less sturdy class
If he went Healer instead of Cleric, he'd get 1 more spell cast on each spell level, BUT he'd have lesser health pool and bleed out faster.
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>>136853698
Mogzo
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>>136853698
Naotsugu.

I like how in the anime its not the fault of the group for being overconfident but its entirely Manatos fault for moving around without caution.
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>>136853716
megumin pls
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>>136849047
So why did they waste money on cremating him? Why not let him rise as an undead and then kill him for XP/loot(?)/vices?
Fucking casuals and their carebear mentality.
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>>136853716
Tittymage is actually really useful with her CC.
She can later lock out 2 opponents + shadow bind one in a fight.
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>>136853716
In a proper party a control mage can create miracles... in this party however you have to teach what competence is... rather than destruction or control what they needed was a sages wisdom
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>>136853716
What about the dark/dread knight or whatever. What is this demon he's taking about? Even if he exist apparently it's completely useless.
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>>136852982
They will appear again for a bit next week when Renji gives Haruhiro a gold coin (faggot MC obviously rejects it cause muh pride).
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>>136853784
simply epic
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>>136853628
>can you imagine to act as these bozos did and wander around relaxed like that in danger zones?

See:
>>136851916
>Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
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>>136853805
>Tittymage is actually really useful with her CC.
That's why priest is dead right now? CC always is shit.
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>>136853716
She would've probably blown them all up with her shit accuracy and clumsiness if she went elemental dps mage.
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>>136853784
>loot
Does he get some item from the air when turns into zombie?
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>>136849047
wait didn't the thief drop his weapon? what will he do now, considering they cant even afford underwear?
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>>136853809
If he feels like it (the demon) he can shit-post into the ear of one opponent.
He can also tell the presence of enemies (but only if he feels like it).

Also it basically only works at night.
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>>136849047
Fucking alliance shitters get what they deserve.
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>>136852839
From what little tidbits I've gotten from the LN readers, apparently they all serve the no-life king, who is basically going all evil necromancer on humanity.
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>>136853888
maybe he will finally start as a proper pickpocket
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>>136849047
YOLO
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>>136853888
The Hunter will give her kukri and she'll focus on the bow?
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>>136853869
Because the party messed up, in particular Manato.
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>>136853888
Why they can't just find a job in town? What the fuck?
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If there's one thing this show did right it's that it made me marathon Slayers and Lodoss again.

Thanks Grimgar.
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>>136853993
the cook would be able to work in town... all others I dot know
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>>136853716
My inner fa/tg/uy says you're the moron here for thinking battlefield control wizard isn't best wizard.
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>>136853993
Get a job and barely afford food or kill a goblin and get weeks of living expenses
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>>136853993
The fat guy can cook, why he doesn't gets a work in the town?
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>>136853072
3 preist
2 warriors
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>>136853886
>hunters use traps and ranged weapons with daggers/machete/whathaveyou canonically
>rangers use ranged weapons (duh)
>thieves use daggers
>hunter is somehow not a bit of both ranger and thief
you can keep denying it if that helps you sleep at night
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>>136853826
I'm interested in the chick with messy hair.
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>>136853072
Experience.
They probably had their own deaths in the past.
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>>136853784
>>136853826

>Fucking casuals and their carebear mentality.

"Be wary- triumphant pride precipitates a dizzying fall."
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What kind of amateurs are they after a month of being stuck in this world.
I mean casually walking around alone in enemy territory without checking for ambushes or anything is just asking to get sniped.
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>>136854078
She's a genuine 3DPD slut. Its a shame the anime skipped the part where Renji made his team.
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they all deserve to die
It was such a satisfying episode
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>>136849047
>healer on front lines
>tank doesn't really have any armour
>archer goes with melee skills
>thief that doesn't really do anything thief-related, just is shittier in fighting
>wizard that casts one spell every fight tops
>dark knight that doesn't really have anything that would differenciate him from a simple knight
We get it, they are shit. Also it seems pretty pointless to forcefully make it into a game with all this "I got a new skill!!!11", why not finally just make a standard fantasy?

Also, this episode nothing happened once again. One dude died, and we were forced to watch faggots cry for half an episode. Is there any point in continuing watching? Does it get interesting ever?
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>>136854123
see
>>136851916
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>all the "so hardcore" games veterans crawling out of woodworks
Feels great guys.
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>>136854097
They came to the world at the same time.
They should have equal experience at this point except the party we are following is made of complete fuck ups for some reason.
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>>136851916
I wish this cast could get sent into the Darkest Dungeon to die.
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>>136853784
They can deal with 3 Goblins and you expect them to deal with a Zombie/Ghoul powered by some Necromancer/Litch?
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>>136854138
You only need 1 spell per fight.
>megumin.jpg
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>>136854055
>Thinking the money you get from working a 9 to 5 peasant level job pays more than adventuring.

I'm thinking a vast majority of commoners aren't able to make a silver coin worth of money in a month.
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Why did a bunch of bigger goblins suddenly attack them? Was it because they camped in enemy territory? This was probably a Manato decision since he's the leader, thus his death is not undeserved.
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>>136854138
Kill yourself my man.
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So did anyone else play the early Wizardries? I got myself to floor 5 of Wizardry 1 (SNES), but stopped for some reason.
I still have the handdrawn maps.
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>>136854160
Would be satisfying watching them panic and die of heart attack.
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>>136854159
The other guy had first pick. Of course he has the better party.
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>>136854138
>Is there any point in continuing watching?
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>>136854057
>priest abuse
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>>136854202
>this is what /a/ believes
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>another one bites the dust
freaking goblin murderers
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>>136854159
> Renji is an alpha male
> Ron is your typical delinquent guy
> Adachi is the smart glasses guy

The two girls are MC team tier just surrounded by competent guys and good equipment.
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>healer
>not using your first skill for something to save your ass when shit hits the fan
deserved to die.
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>>136854060
Rangers are the ones that use both bows and light swords.
Hunters use only bows and traps, and daggers just for craftmans jobs(which Yume should fucking focus from now on since she is useless in battle)
Thiefs use daggers because they need to be light and move fast.
By your logic everyone is a thief, I can use daggers too you know?
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>>136853904
There is mana though, he gets tired after he uses it a lot.
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>>136854138
No, please stop watching and stop posting your wall of greentext garbage that has already been posted a thousand times and never come back.
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>>136854138
I agree. So much time was wasted on useless shit like:

>the dangers of not wearing panties
>the flavor of the big gay guy's cooking

But no, that's not bad enough. They also had to make them literal retards!
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>>136853826
Why isn't the story about Renji and his beefed up crew? They look and sound a shit ton more interesting than the failures we're forced to watch.
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>>136854234
I find it hilarious how much Yume ass and legs there is in every episode. It's like an even split between Yume, fighting some random goblin and an insert song. All mandatory.
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>>136854289
Pretty much all of them deserve to die for being so incompetent. I'd rather join the other group of assholes.
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>>136854212
I beat all except 4.
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>>136853869
>CC always is shit
You clearly haven't played many mmo's
or just different ones than me
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>>136854183
>Why did a bunch of bigger goblins suddenly attack them? Was it because they camped in enemy territory?

They had been grinding that area for days and the Goblins aren't mindless, they're people unto themselves.

They got ambushed and attacked by a group of Goblins with CLASS levels (like our own characters) and essentially got shit on because the Goblins were better skilled and more optimized- knowing when to sit back and having actual balanced party chemistry.
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>>136854312
If you want SAO watch SAO.
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>>136849047
He was activating death flags for two episodes and a half.

They could have been a bit more subtle, there is no way to build drama when they expended two keeps shouting at our faces "he is gonna die"
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>>136853993
Because it would be boring as fuck. Would you rather watch them kill goblins or sell socks?
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>>136854342
>can't beat the game where you play as an overpowered antagonist from previous games
woooow
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>>136854339

Nerds not allowed
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I feel like this anime has no direction. What kind of message are they trying to convey or is just meant as a purely spectator thing where no viewer gets engaged?
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>>136854350
>whoever dislikes a shitty fantasy show is a SAOfag
Alright.
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>>136854286
>Adachi
looks like we found the second best boy after MANato
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>>136854314
its nice seeing the weak ones once in a while, gets tiring seeing the strong group all the time
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Oh man. Watching the priest die was strangely satisfying. Actually scratch that. It felt so fucking good seeing pitiful motherfucker kick the buclet after all the stupid shit they did.
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>>136854412
>fuck anything related to characters, just show them killing things!!
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>>136854328
Don't forget Ranta rants and edginess, mandatory for a minimum of 20% of the episodes.
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>>136854339
>Implying you can do any better than the cast

Don't be a retard. The other group would leave your incompetent ass behind to be raped to death by the goblins before the night is over.
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>>136854395
I might have managed to beat it, it just would have taken months. And the game wasn't that enjoyable.
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>>136854450
>10 minutes of >oh no we're not wearing underwear
>good
Pick one faggot.
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>>136854397
>>136854466
>projecting

Fight me 1v1 m9
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>>136854026
But its not, in one on one battler dps is king.
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>>136854503

I have over 300 confirmed kills
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>>136854503
Mate. Only incompetent weaklings needs to prove themselves by saying shit like 'fite me, 1v1'. It's time you stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>136854426
I can understand that, but when they're going around and fucking up this much, it gets really annoying to watch.
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>>136854455
Yeah being edgy and being an asshole to at least one member of the party mostly the girls.
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>>136854510
Stop. It's clear you know nothing about being a wizard despite being an /a/non. Battlefield control is always better than an evoker. Always.
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>>136854501
>fuck goals
>fuck development
>fuck character interaction

>just show them killing things LOL
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>>136854172
>>136854027
This doesn't makes any sense in their world economy.
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>Yume rocking back and forth
>Cuts to MC also rocking in sympathy
Cute, top notch, 10/10 scene
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>>136853784

The real question is...what happent with all the items the guy had? Please don't tell me they burned it all with him.
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>>136854503
I'm going to ambush you 5 to 1.
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>>136854625
That was cute.
It was a nice touch.
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>>136854621
It costs them 12 coppers a day each to live in the inn, food is a small percentage of that.
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>>136854466
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_use_of_children_in_World_War_II
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>>136854619
>10 minutes of >oh no we're not wearing underwear = goals & development
If you introduce a great world like that then you need to spend more time on the actual plot instead of useless shit.
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>>136854572
What exactly did you expect a bunch of teenagers with zero knowledge of the world they're on, and zero knowledge of their past life suppose to do? Hell, I am 90% certain that if it was one of /a/non in their situation, they would have just given up and gone off to become a dishwasher at their first injury.
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>>136854634
No the actually important question is whether Shirou fucked his corpse as an apology.
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>>136849047
I've never been much of an RPG fan, but this and Konosuba are giving me some major itch over here.
What are some good RPGs with structures and settings similar to those two shows?
No MMO please, I'm a scrub and would rather not put my time on endless grinding.
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>>136854695
>10 minutes
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>>136854679
Bank credit
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>>136854619
>Goals
The characters have no goals besides not dying.
>Development
Everyone is exactly the same as they were on day 1.
>Character interaction
Shitty joke scenes and slideshows of characters walking around and doing random shit are not character interaction.
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>>136854716
Play oldschool Wizardry games.
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>>136854704
Renji's crew seems to be doing pretty damn good considering they're in the same boat. I haven't read the LN, but I'm sure the story would be a lot more interesting with a competent group.
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>>136853716
Should've saved up her money to learn explosion.
Goblins ain't shit, if only the rest of the team can learn to protect her while she's chanting.
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>>136854716
Do you born after 1995?
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>>136854716

Final Fantasy, any

Is the best saga of RPGs ever
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That first scene was autistic as fuck.
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>>136854613
I beg the differ a single destruction mage have the capacity to eliminate an emtire enemy squad alone. What i learn in mmo is that you can never trust your partner.
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>>136854716
>Grimgar
Dragons Dogma
>Konosuba
Fable
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>>136854793
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>>136854716
ETRIAN ODYSSEY SON
Start with 3, it has comfy coastal setting.
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Most action adventure anime focuses only on that, even the story, characters, and plot are devices for the fight scenes, this show balances both the SoL of being trapped in a fantasy world and the action adventure part of making their way.
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>>136853716
yeah like EXPLOSIONS
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The red moon didn't appear this episode. What's its meaning?
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>>136854704
>muh teenagers
Teenagers are not retarded. "Teenagers" is not fuckin argument.
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>knowing that your party leader said something good about everyone in your party except you
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>>136854773
>I'm sure the story would be a lot more interesting with a competent group.
I disagree. The slow growth of these characters will be worth it in the long run.
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Did anyone feel bad when the guy died?

I knew it was coming but I feel like there was a distinct lack of fucks given from me when it happened. I don't know if this is a problem on my side or it was the show. At that point it made me realize just how indifferent I actually felt about the character. Eh.
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Honestly I thought I'd roll a tank in this setting, but holy fuck the stress when someone gets hit or even bites the dust and it's at least partially your fault.
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>>136854681
Anon, they have zero memories of the world they came from and have zero knowledge of their current world. Unlike modern times where it is easy to teach kids to use guns and become impromptu minesweepers, they have to learn shit the old fashion way. Through training. They receive only 1 week worth of that. Shit, it's like expecting someone who had 1 week worth of wilderness survival training to suddenly survive out in the wild? Now, stop being a retard.
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>>136854747
>The characters have no goals besides not dying.

>i'm a fucking retard that didn't watch the episode

>Everyone is exactly the same as they were on day 1.

What?

>Shitty joke scenes and slideshows of characters walking around and doing random shit are not character interaction.
Oh, you're mentally deficient.
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>>136854875
>the long run
>Episodes: 12
It's episode 4 and one guy died already to a lvl 5 goblin. That sure is interesting.
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They have to pay for the goblins they murdered
One death is not enough
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>goblin had a clean headshot
>instead shot center back

why?
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#goblinlivesmatter
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>>136854956
Fucking little green jews
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>>136854818
Shut up, /v/. You know nothing about rpgs, you're just a huge scrub that complains when you can't shoot something up to solve your problems.
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>>136854704

A twelve year old in the same situation, by the end of episode 2, would apply more common sense to everything happening in the world, than the collective common sense applied by all in that party. Holy shit.

Grimgar is practically MMORPG Antics, Bugaloo Cringe: The Resurrection.
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>>136854954
You really can't say anything until the show hits episode 10 or so. Even then, there will always be a chance for a second season.
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>>136854704
>at their first injury
You just kidding right? If it was me I would avoid fighting at all cost and rather become farmer. Or join the hunter guild and would kill cute and harmless animals to eat them.
They can shove their goblin crousade up into their ass!
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>>136854716
Neverwinter Nights.
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>>136854928
>what is instincts
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>>136854945
Good job not actually countering any of my points and just memetexting as if it means anything at all. Fuck off.
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>>136854968
The rest of the cast are idiots that would have turned around immediately and there probably would have been 2 more arrow casualties at least

in short... can't have the animu ending
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>>136854793
Chrono Cross > Golden Sun > Final Fantasy

For Final Fantasy
4 > 12 > 7 > 6 > 10 > 13 > 8
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>>136850777
>>136850977
>>136852787

Nice seven
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>>136855042
Something that humans suck at, which is why they use intellect.
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>>136855002
>You just kidding right? If it was me I would avoid fighting at all cost and rather become farmer.
Woah look at this anon, your dream came true, you can be a boring fuck that dies without doing anything memorable!

I'd actually pay for being able to do quests and explore dungeons and shit. Getting loads of money would be only a bonus.
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>>136855042
You are as bad as the kids who say adrenaline is all that matters in a fight. Come on, anon.
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>>136854991
>Confirmed for getting team wiped by a single entity.

Survival of the fittest anon.
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>>136854864
Yes it fucking is. Look at them and their clothes when they arrived. Do they look like people that regularly goes off to gyms to become fit? Do they look like people that have been training for most of their lives to fight in life and death situation? Hell, other than the big guy, do any of them look like they've ever held a blade at all?
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See the little goblin
See his little feet
See his little nosey wose
Isn't the goblin sweet?
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>>136855054
Didn't he aim at the head at first?

Might have something to do with the Lich bringing the dead back, maybe it follows TWD rules.
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>>136854875
Yeah, once they've grown and have experience, it'll be nice, but the slow start and watching them fuck everything up, including their class/jobs, makes it a bit of a drag to watch.
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hahaHahahahaHahahaHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU MANATO
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>>136855061
>4 > 12 > 7 > 6 > 10 > 13 > 8
13 > 7
6 > 7
9 > 7
10 > 7
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>>136855069
>Something that humans suck at
That's why gorillas are capable of wiping out human race with the press of a single but- no wait they aren't.
In fact humans can exterminate everything on our planet if we wish so.
If that isn't instinct then I don't know what is. We had an instinct we're not good at fighting so we made weapons and armor to even the odds out.
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>>136855061
>4 > 12 > 7 > 6 > 10 > 13 > 8
That's stupid even with 12 vanilla there.

6/9/Tactics > 4/5/7/12 Zodiac > 1/3/10 > 2/8 > 13/13-2/13-3
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>>136854992
A twelve year old used to wartime situation, yes. A random first world teenager with zero knowledge and rarely faced with life or death situation, fuck no.
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>>136854778
>do you born after 1995
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>>136855061
>Not having 5 and 9
Nigga you don't even have the best two on that list.
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What class is she?

And what would sex with her be like?
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When you stay a virgin past the age of 30 this is what you become.
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>>136854823
Grimgar is Dark Souls. There's even gods that pass through worlds and turn them into eternal darkness and shit like that.
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>>136855157
>white clothes and blue stripes
She's a healer.
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>>136855091
I can't hear you over the sound of you failing your fort save versus my spell, anon. Suck it, evoker-fag. You will always be shit-tier compared to us.
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>>136855157
Outfit says priest
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>>136855183

Dragon's Dogma is much better
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>>136855151
Has anyone ever go as far as to look even more like?
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>le wish FF is better discussion
Why can't I escape this faggotry wherever I go?
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>>136855069
>>136855083
I can understand why you defend shitty writing? It's impossible even for teenagers in unknown wild being so useless. It's impossible for human beings. Do you even have sense of reality?
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>>136855157
>What class is she
She's a priest.

>What would sex with her be like?
Ask Renji.
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>>136855168
Do i get to sound like Jouji Nakata as well?
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>>136854928
>trainig
that's why they didn't train shit
that's why archer couldn't hit a thing
mage couldn't speedcast or hit
dark knight should've practiced more against thiev in cqb
"training? no, didn't hear
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They could had just waited to see if he would have raised as a Dark Soul undead.
If he turned hollow then they could have tried to put him to rest
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Yume called Ranta cute WTF
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>>136855199
>>136855206
Hmm, seem obvious indeed.

And now the sex?
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>>136855183
Grimgar isn't like Dark Souls at all. There's vague suffering but none of the loneliness or dying world stuff.
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>>136855183
No, Grimgar is Etrian Odyssey, complete with FOE ambushes.
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>>136855254
She will heal your dick.
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Party lvl 1 kek
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>cloth wearer going in front
That's what you get for forgetting you're a fragile bitch whose job is hiding in a corner while the real fighters do battle.
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>>136855083
>You are as bad as the kids who say adrenaline is all that matters in a fight.
Considering adrenaline turns scrawny losers into really pissed off people who can break you in half, yes, it does matter a lot in a fight.
Having a weapon doesn't mean much when you kill a guy right after you die.
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>>136854968
Shouldn't you always aim for the mass center though? It's not like he has perfect aim, or like the crossbow shoots exactly like you want it to, aiming for head would be risky.

>>136854954
This. Barely anything happened once again.
Also the scene at the beginning:
"I'm glad we talked"
No you didn't talk, you said like one sentence and then she tripped, how did this scene even make it into the anime?
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>>136855148

>magical world
>has different adventure classes
>but no libraries
>no training facilities
>NOTHING that would help someone with zero adventuring knowledge in not doing absolutely fucking RETARDED decision making

If they do have these so called facilities, and the characters ignore them, to run headfirst into battle with no knowledge, experience, or proper teamwork; then they deserve to die and I shed no sympathy for them.

Also, a priest as a vanguard was guaranteed death. Not one person in the party realized it was idiotic, including party leader himself. Shocking.
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>>136854748
>>136854823
>>136854827
>>136855019
Thanks, looks like I have a starting point.
I'd be willing to even give those old clunky CRPGs a chance, but I'd better start from an entry point like Dragons Dogma, Fable or Etrian Odyssey seem to be.

>>136854793
Nah, FF is something else entirely.

>>136854778
>Do you born after 1995?
Do you?
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>>136855311
maybe its like a skill or some shit and there's no gravitational pull on the arrow when that goblin shoots it
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>>136855323
>If they do have these so called facilities, and the characters ignore them, to run headfirst into battle with no knowledge, experience, or proper teamwork; then they deserve to die and I shed no sympathy for them.


THOSE THINGS COST LOTS OF MONEY HOLY FUCK YOU'RE ANNOYING FUCK OFF RETARD.
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>>136855098
Do you never fight is your live? You don't need to learn how to fight.
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>>136855240
One week of training is not enough. Fuck, I've taken a years worth of archery classes and even with all the conveniences of modern compound bows and sights, I still can't hit bulls eyes. And you expect someone with a week's worth to do it under real life combat conditions? Oh hell no.
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will this be popular enough to get rape doujins?
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>>136855371

>libraries cost money

What.
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>>136855329
>I'd be willing to even give those old clunky CRPGs a chance
Do that first otherwise you'll be used to horrible turds like Skyrim and handwave good games away for being old.
If you start with CRPGs first you'll at worst be disillusioned with state of modern RPGs and long for CRPGs to make a return.
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>>136855403
Hopefully.
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>>136855395
You suck at archery anon.
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>>136855395

Maybe you just suck
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>>136855395
>One week of training is not enough
NEET pls
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>>136855403
Yes. Everything gets rape doujins eventually.

The question is only if it will ever be scanned and then uploaded, and if it can be found.
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>>136855134
>>136855152
>Tactics
Oh fuck, yeah, tactics are by far my favourites.
> 9 best
Never played the 9, it looks stupid.
>12 Zodiac
And doesn't the Zodiac version of 12 is that one where everything is hack and you can have infinite shit like the Zodiac spears? Bulshit game.
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>>136855183
>Grimgar is Dark Souls
The fact that only one of them is kill by the first month with all that retarded behavior proves otherwise.
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>>136855395
25 meters so hard?
Even with a week, a hard worked week like your life deppends on it would make her to be able at least hit something at 25 meters
nobody expexts bull's eye, but a decent accuracy expecance can be met.
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>>136855238
If you try to hard enough.
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>>136855168
>can't even revive/turn dead into undead servants
I'm starting to consider if it's really a good option.
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>>136855183
>Everything RPG like that is hard is Dark Souls
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>>136855424
>>136855437
>>136855438
Give it up, MAL. You cannot win.
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>>136855395
Fuck off Yume you're shit.
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>>136855473
You can only do that if you're evil.
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>cloth wearer going in front
That's what you get for forgetting you're a fragile bitch whose job is hiding in a corner while the real fighters do battle.
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>>136855395

>be archer in grimgar
>have a party, not doing this solo
>don't have to kill the enemy, though if you do; that's good
>you just have to hit
>nah fuck that, I'll use a knife instead

Yume's got a great ass, but jesus christ; I wouldn't want her in my party to be anything more than a cum dump. The autism of her decision making would infect me and get me killed.
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>>136855453
>it looks stupid
No Anon, you look stupid.
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>>136855377
Look at them. Other than Renji, most of them look like people that come from well-adjusted family and live very safe lives. You get into, maybe one or two fights, and that's it. And as it has been repeatedly said, they have zero memories of it.
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>like in any RPG the "NPC's" will jew you literally on any service
>even on burning corpse so it doesn't raise like undead and murder everyone
>ditching adventurer life and getting normal work so you can strip scrubs of all their dosh even after they die is somehow bad idea
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>>136855245
This. They had an opportunity to see how stuff works in this world, yet they've wasted it. We still don't know shit about that place.
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>>136855403
More importantly, any LNfag know if there is any rape on the series? Mage and Hunter are yelling RAPE everytime they are on screen.
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>archer goes melee
>main healer is vanguard
>tank uses 2h instead of sword and board

im amazed they havent completely wiped. This whole episode was cringe tier everything
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>>136854625
Yes, I dawwed when I saw that.
I'd rock Yume back and forth in my lap.
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They're going to need a new cleric. No one online wants to heal either.
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>>136855538
One week, anon. Also kids in middle ages fights too.
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>>136849047
>Healer dies of a poison arrow

Should had bought some antidotes.
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Any major events happening from this point onward?
Except the tank dieing?
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>>136855395
It should only take a few months to get decent unless you need to build up the muscles needed then maybe one year.
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>>136855411
it could have some fees, some other MMO novel as much as I dont wanna compare these had fees to be able to enter the library, and more to rent the books, though they return the money used to rent the books
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>>136855627
What about fucking wait and see?
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Im pretty sure he will respawn
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>>136855627
Favaro dies to his own demon.
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>>136855590

Lies.

I always drift to battle cleric. I solo a lot. Like a faggot.
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>>136854312
I liked the part with the cooking. Panty part was shit though.
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>>136855494
This shit doesn't even look all that hard, the cast that is full of retards.
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>>136855019
>Neverwinter Nights.
Fukken seconded. Especially Mask of the Betrayer.
Apart from Kotor, the best evil campaign ever.
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>>136855329
Let me give you a rundown on Etrian Odyssey games.
First three are on Nintendo DS. Very comfy to play on a real console, still good on smartphone/tablet, and okay on PC.
The reason is map drawing - you draw your own maps. If you look up maps online like a casual then it's not an issue.

1 is the original game, it's kinda aged but d
2 is a sequel of sorts, you get minor benefits and extra dialogue if you beat 1 first. My personal favorite.
3 is quite different, instead of usual fantasy setting with knights, paladins, etc, you get pirates, princesses, farmers, shit like that. It's very unique and refreshing setting. Also, the best one of the DS games.

There is also 7th Dragon. Also similar to EO, but not quite. Still a great game, but play some mainline EO first.

Now, 3DS games. No (good) emulation of 3DS yet, so unless you've got a console, you won't get to play those.
4 is the best starting point, 1 and 2 have been remade for it, there is 5 and remake of 3 coming soon.
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>>136855134
>13-3 at the end
fuck you, 13-3 was one of the best
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I was cheering more for the goblins than lamenting the fact that clericbro dies.

Welp.
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Stop doing /vg/.
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>>136855662
>I always drift to battle cleric
There is no shame in this, anon.
Healsluts are the worst, but know when to support and when to fight.
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>>136855698
13-3 is a scrapped version of Valkyrie Chronicles 3 turned into FF13 to get some money after the fuck up of FF14.
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How my OTP will work if one half is ashes now?
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>>136855590
>no one wants to be healslut
bullshit
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does the LN have rape?
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>>136854716
Play Darkest Dungeon
It's damn fun with good voice acting, and a lot of depression, suffering and despair.
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>>136855157
Big chest for a chibi, or is that just her clothing?
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>>136855130
Nope, that is exactly what intellect is.
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>>136855562
>someone ITT trying to excuse their retardism with muh teenagers and muh training
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>>136855764
>Valkyrie Chronicles 3
Valkyrie Profile 3 not Chronicles.
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>>136855460
I'll ignore the other replies because it's clear they're bait. But that's the thing, I've taken those classes for fun. I can land accurate shots, but I can never get reliable bulls-eyes whenever I want it to. It usually takes multiple shots to properly line up the sights before I can, and this is under very safe conditions and with modern conveniences. The cast does not have that luxury. They have one shot at this before things go incredibly hectic. Can I hit a stationary target? Of course. Can I hit a moving target with all of the pressure of a life and death situation? I would have turned and ran before the arrow even hits the target.
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>>136855061
>generic fantasy first
>no 9, no 5
>10 not dead last along with kaleidoscope simulator XIII
Whatever
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>>136855656
Me too. Like it just a game
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>>136849047
forgot about the priest faggot...

Post yume webm
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>spoiled myself Manato's death
>still manage to get chills and think that the episode wasn't bad
>pic related happens

What the actual fuck.
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>>136855686
>Especially Mask of the Betrayer.
NWN2 is shit.
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>>136854455
Ranta is not edgy. If there's someone who's edgy that's Haru.
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>>136854716
The Age of Decadence
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>>136855784
It's not very good though despite its atmosphere, too grindy and too reliant on RNG.
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>>136855627
Renji has a duel with a Orc General in a couple of episodes
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>>136855824
The song had me in stitches. The trees practically killed me.
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I dropped this shit because the main party is so stupid that i cringe everytime they fight

>hurr our trainings was so hard
>cant kill a lone gob easily

I mean, what the fuck
Do they even get better?
Or theyre going to hunt only gobs until the end?

Yes, im an animeonlyfag
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>>136855838
The ass was fat.
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>>136855411
Did you miss the part Guilds are secretive? Haruhiro's Guild gets you killed if you reveal anything about them, even your thief name.

Ranta's guild gets you killed if you desert because of the same reasons.

The rest are the same. You can't learn useful in libraries.
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>>136855784
But also lots of Relics, Treasure, and sense of accomplishment.
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>>136854868

Yeah, that sucked a lot. There was an Anon who mentioned last week that there was a scene from the LN where they talk and it was awesome. Maybe he was told then?
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>>136855866
this
I grinded my ass off and still got wiped because my party isn't minmaxed down to the smallest detail
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>>136855866
This, I really hate RNG in strategy games.
It's fine in D&D where bad rolls end up being laughed off with friends, but in DD it just makes you mad. COME ON HEALER
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>>136855764
Hence why it's a great game and doesn't deserve to be paired off with XIII?

XIII-2 and X-2 are also pretty great games that suffer from being FFs
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>>136855838
Picked up
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>>136855627
Mogzo will not die in the anime, they'll only adapt the first two volumes and end it with Soma's speech.

What a load of crap.
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>>136855901
That's fascinating.
What are you even doing posting here then?
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>>136855811
This is why practice is needed. Make some targets and shoot while moving if you can't make the targets move, or just ask somebody else to move the targets and emulate real situation. If she'd done it properply, in a weak or maybein a day, her hit ratio would something like positive.
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>>136855610
Have you ever tried aiming with a traditional bow? Shit is hard, especially with no sights and no draw assistance from modern compound bows and arrows.
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>>136855795
We used intellect to make stuff, we used instinct to understand that we NEED to make stuff.
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>>136855909
But clearly not too secretive because they're presence seems to be common knowledge and any random jackoff can just walk up and join no questions asked.

Please tell me this isn't the actual explanation.
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>>136855688
Nice, looks like something great to play on my phone on the side.
Too bad for the 3DS tho, can't see myself ever buying one.
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>>136855183
>parties of people hagning out having moe moments
>Dark Souls
Nope. A big thing for me in DaS1 was how alone you were for most of the journey. And when you met someone, most of the time they were some weirdo who ended up going hollow or a nice guy who also ended up going hollow.
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>>136855947
>healers
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>>136855972
I can't shoot anything without laser sights and guided arrows
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>ctrl f
>no plancescape
It's better to play The Age of Decadence if you want simulate something like grimgar but without retarded characters. It's game where MC is NOT special. Just average human. So you will die. Die a lot. Everyone able to kill you in one shot. So you should speak and be coward instead of fighting against band of thieves
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>>136855972
When was a kid, with idiotic bow and idiotic arrows, at least could hit anything.
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>>136855964
Did you read everything?
Did you even read the question at the bottom?
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>>136856015
Well if you end up enjoying DS Etrians, you could consider getting one, it has a really strong library, and got hacked recently so you can pirate literally everything.
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>>136853784
Underrated post
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>>136856020
Or a jackass, several jackass actually. Never trust anybody in there.
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>>136849047
>get shot in the back
>hurr, Im ok

What a retard, Grimgar truly is survival of the fittest. And those not fit become ash like Manato
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>>136856024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GW-Y445jUc
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>>136856010
>But clearly not too secretive because they're presence seems to be common knowledge and any random jackoff can just walk up and join no questions asked.


There's a difference between people knowing about them and people knowing their techniques you fucking retard. What's secret are the superpowers and general guild things, what's not secret it's their existence.

You can walk in and learn everything as long as you pay, teach those things you learn to someone not from the guild and you're dead. Simple as that.

>Please tell me this isn't the actual explanation.

So you're baiting. fuck off
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>>136855965
This isn't modern day bows and arrows. You can't reliably retrieve those spent arrows so easily. It costs money, which is something that lack. And practice is fine and all, but you really can't replicate the life and death situations of actual combat. Anyone can succeed at something when there's no penalty for failure or pressure from the risk of death, but when something is on the line, all of that training goes out of the window. Take free-throws in basketball, easy enough when practicing, but people fuck it up plenty of times during a match.
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How many more insert songs are going to get? Like holy shit.
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>Goblin must be slashed into bits to be dead
>Human can't take even one arrow

Goblins have redundant insides or their body is moved by magic?
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>>136854625
>>136854625
YES, This.
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>>136853993

Prostitute population is already to high.
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>>136854625
Small touches like that amuse me.
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>>136855947
>It's fine in D&D where bad rolls end up being laughed off with friends
>enemy by a campfire
>warrior rolls to charge
>1
>jumps into the campfire
>is set on fire
>he's screaming
>the enemy is now screaming because warrior wasted the ambush
>other enemies are screaming
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>>136856197
My dick said yes
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>>136854138
>archer goes with melee skills

What's wrong with rangers going melee?
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>>136856168
They spend time lifting and fucking bitches.
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>>136856197
Yes.
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>>136856127
This is what divides a good training form bad. Plus, make a few arrows pure for training? Like training rifles, which are used solely for dissassemly, they can't shoot, they are made from real rifles form service, but deactivated.
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>no long hair
WHY
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>>136855134
12 Is best FF. It's more mature and intresting. People who like 12 have good taste. Too bad it's not complete.
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Even when something happens nothing happens in the show, when it was ending I swore it couldn't be right but indeed half the episode was a music video with still shots. They couldn't just scrap that shit down and show at least a couple minutes of them coping without manto, or at least some animations of every one being sad and no bad music
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>>136855913
>>136855947

I really like how the party shittalk to each other if they doing badly and develop phobias etc.
On the other hand I love depair so the RNG just spices the thing.
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>>136856231
She is a Rexxar fag
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Must suck paying cremation every time you die. Makes you want dying less.
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>>136855000
>there will always be a chance for a second season.
One can only dream.
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>>136856274
It would be better if Vaan and Penelo wouldn't exist in the first place.
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>>136856127
Your training is bad. Trust us. We have analysed your situation from our moms basements and have collectively reached this conlcusion.
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>>136856155
I didn't mind the first one but this one might not have been awful if not for the scene where they're just standing there for 30+ seconds.
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>>136849047
I just wanted him and cowtits to be happy together ;_;
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>>136856064
Hit something, yes. Hard enough to penetrate a target at a crucial spot while fully knowing that you can die if you miss? Probably not. There's also the factor of if they are willing to take the life of another creature to the point of not actually aiming to take its life, which is a heavily debated topic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killology
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>>136855075
You already raised your deathflag.
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>>136854398
Its...LN adaptation, it will end before the story even begins
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>choose carefully the class of each character of my party
>get in the first dungeon
>first encounter, a little animal
>oh fuck, that little critter was actually strong
>fought more critters with more caution
>0 MP/TP, no more recovery items
>get back to town, buy some stuff
>back to the dungeon
>heh, I think I got the hang of this
>being more confident, start exploring new areas and upper floors
>motherfucking FOE appears
>game over

This show is just plain Etrian Odyssey: The Animation.

Someone should tap this onto the scene where they get rekt by the hobgoblins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_PVPyn6n8
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>>136856297
How many times you have to repeat the same shit? or do you even have any other things to do?
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>>136854625
This

>>136854793
It was, before Square fucked it, and if it wasn't enough they fucked DQ too
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I think I need to marathon this instead of waiting for a week for each episode because fuck me it's actually slower than it needs to be.
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Why they didn't transfer prana?
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>>136856471
Why didn't she suck his dick?
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>>136856251
Make a few arrows? Homemade arrows are completely unlike the professional crafted arrows, which just skews up your aim during combat even more. This isn't a gun, the weight, length and how well it was made from an arrow can and will completely screw up the aim from arrow to arrow.
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>>136854398
Newfag.

First volumes in a LN cover the introduction to the world/characters. After that plot kicks in.
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>>136856221
More pelase.
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>>136856344
It's same for him. Using bow is not so hard how basement fag thinks. We made them in summer camp loong time ago in school. In death/live situation a lot people act and react much better.
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>>136856385
Nah, there is not enough deers. It's more Wizardry, episode 1 was titled after the reviving chant from that game.
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>>136856267
Hair care of long hair is too much of a hassle.
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>>136856372
Great, life sucks, I can only hope I'd die doing something really balls to the wall awesome.
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>>136855323
>no training facilities
There are training facilities; they're the guilds, and the party was using them, but it costs a lot of money for training.

>>136855411
>libraries cost money
Not sure if this world has the printing press invented yet, but books before the printing press were expensive. Only nobles owned libraries of books, and they are not open to the public since you don't want people stealing or damaging the books.
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>>136856497
D&D is a comedy goldmine.
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>>136856370
When I get to fight, desire to kill isn't something strange in that case, all those hormons burning in you, I can't think of anything else than slamming more and more at the enemy. You don't think of such things when you're in danger, your brain is flooded with hormons that doesn't allow you. Although I've never won a fight in my life, makes my comment kinda pathetic.
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>>136856541
well you can rise as a skeltal and be a lich or some shit.
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>>136856100
You are trying sound edgy but in reality you are just sad.
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>I'll pay for the cremation poorfags
>NO

JUST

Already fucking up leadership, they need to kill his generic ass and make yume or ranta the MC, then have them join renji
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Not D&D but Ballad of Edgardo is some GOAT shit.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/26565579/
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>>136856486
At 200m yes, not 25.
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>>136856541
>>136855075

You really are a chuuni
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>>136855019
>>136855686

Shit, it's been so damn long since I played it I barely remember. I played it just when it came out, what was it, like 2003? 2004? I remember that there was a second game released too, but never played it, is it any good?
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>>136856569
I've read that alot but still can't stop laughing.
Is there some type of thread on /tg/ I should look for so I can get these gems?
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>>136856231
She isn't a 2 meter tall barbarian with 18/00 streinght.
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>>136856385
It's not an EO anime unless they get wiped by a deer with this playing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFctacTsLMw
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dat twich in his lips when dying
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>>136855529
Stop anon, you're making me hard.
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>>136856574
The problem is that, archery isn't something you want to lose your emotion over. You need utter discipline to not miss your shot since the more you pull, the more shaky the bow becomes, the more likely the arrow will stray off course. You need to pull it at the right amount, hold the arrow at the right angle, both vertical and horizontal-wise, proper stance, and immaculate hand-eye coordination. I have utmost respect for archers that can reliably hits bulls-eyes after going through all those classes. Shit is fuck-hard.
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>>136856635
>He was our NAKAMA
>sperg like a retard instead of accepting the goodwill of based priest master

Why is Haruhiro so shit?
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>>136849047
Prediction for next death:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mpW6no2xVA
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>>136856267
Mary pls be cute.
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>>136856120
Wow, that guy SUCKS.
How can he complains about RNG when he sends a bounty hunter (extra damage against stunned and humans), a vestal (who excels at stunning enemies, but didn't had the ability), and a jester (bleed abilities, BLEED), against skeletons (unholy) with 200% bleed resist, and a Necromancer with ~100% stun resist.
That party would have been fine in weald, or the warrens. But not in the Ruins, he fucked up before even starting.
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>>136856385
(ºдº)
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>>136856741
Ever ehard of notion "muscke memory"?. This is what soldiers relly upon.
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Is he dead forever or just temporaly?
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>>136856267
>Healslut clothing
Pls have big bobs and a nice butt.
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>>136856674
Minsk isn't 18/00 though.
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>>136856808
You cant bring the dead back to life
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In a shocking twist. This single panel form the first episode of Konosuba was more entertaining than 4 episodes of this show.

But I'll still watch grimgar just to see how much cringe it's possible to put into a single show, where literally nothing happens.
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>>136856120
WHAT A DELICIOUS SIGHT
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>>136855529
She's pretty shit at using a bow. If she manages to live until she gets her animal companion, at least she'll be useful until then. I feel like scrub party is a late game party, what with her and bitch-boy Renji.
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>>136856643
You're really underestimating just how much a badly crafted arrow can screw up your aiming. The length, weight, feather, arrowhead, almost everything about the arrow can drastically affect its flight path. If you practice with such shitty arrows, then your aiming becomes off as well. Not to mention, arrows aren't guns, it doesn't travel in a straight path nor goes at supersonic speed. The more you pull, the more shaky it becomes. It's really not that simple to hit a moving target, especially in the heat of battle.
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>>136856873
Please do not use Konosuba to shitpost.
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>>136856948
Anyway, it still would be better than "omg i can't hit so i'll go with a pencilldick to fight". I'm off. GN.
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>>136856872
Yeah sure, but he can respawn
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>>136856231
Yume doesn't have a miniature giant space hamster to back her up.
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So pretty.
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>>136856804
For archery? Haha, fuck no. The thing has way too many variable for the pull, the stance and how the arrow is held. All those supposed trick shots you see on youtube requires hundreds of retries to get right. You can't just aim and fire with it.
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>>136856873
Keep trying.
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>>136854398
I was having fun just chilling for 20 minutes every week watching the characters kill some Gobs. It was quite relaxing if nothing else.
Not sure what do I think of it now that apparently there'll be a real plot.
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>cant afford to properly bury their friend
>offered to have the costs covered
>NO WE HAVE TO NOT EAT FOR 3 WEEKS BECAUSE HE WAS OUR FRIEND
Cue yet another stupid song.
For fucks sake this show is stupid.
I want to stop watching this but I have small hopes that they will all die eventually.
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>>136854398
>Asking massage in anime.
Wat.
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>>136857061
forced background art
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>>136857135
Been a while since I last saw people force forced.
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>>136857127
You probably don't know what honor and brotherhood is.
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So this is what happen when a show's thread moving fast.
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>>136849047
>first ambush
>already pic related

its good to know that incompetence fades with experience but others peoples failures still feels so FUCKING sweet...
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Someone wake me up when they finally stop using insert songs.
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>>136857044
wut. Even modern day soldiers know if a knife-wielder gets within lunging range, he is dead. Best to get familiarize with a close range weapon so she can defend herself in close range combat and environment, like as in the case of a ruined cityscape. Besides, if she wants to do better in archery, all she has to do is buy a better bow. I cannot stress how important equipment is when it comes to archery.
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>>136857238
godammit something is wrong with my pics today
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>>136857260
I wonder if it's more or less expensive than paying more lines to the VAs.
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>>136857285
>memegenerator
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>>136856669
There are story threads with text screenshots from time to tie.
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>>136857179
>muh honor
>muh bros before hoes
MANato did his best to keep them alive and earn at least some money and they end up fucking themselves over instead of saving enough silver to unfuck their shit for once
he must be watching them from hell in disgust
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>>136854398
They took the very popular mmo games and mmos in nippon and made the protagonists anti-heroes in the true sense of the word - so they're weak, dumb, overly reticent or annoying and it shows them trying to make it work at the bottom with loser sol stuff instead of mary sue life in the fantasy world

They also have some rare hand paints animations, so that's what they got going for them
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>>136857340
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>>136856370
>Killology
That's a real word?
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>>136853484
Call it D&D-like, because modern WRPGs play exactly like any MMOs, even more so than modern JRPGs, which actually play different.
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>>136857391
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>>136857374
kekkery
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>>136856533
Eh, EO is strongly based on Wizardry, though with much easier and forgiving mechanics.

I'll never forget dem ash piles.
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So is this show going to get good now then?
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>>136857374
noice
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>>136857437
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>>136853826
>mfw the guy in the middle has appeared in a ntr manga called Shared Love.

Fucking hentai.
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>>136857361
Of course he wouldn't like that, but sometimes being a friend requires you to do what your friend wouldn't like but is still right. Also look it from another dimension. They did it to have peace in their hearts which is very important in those times.
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>>136856873
why this?
I think both Grimgar and Konosuba are good and enjoyable, finally this damned transported into other world thing done right.
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>>136857374
Clearly you got more of Yume's ass than that.
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I knew he is going to die. I tried to look at him like a dead meant from the beginning.. but I liked him and his interactions with that wizard girl and MC. I hate deathflags, they know no mercy.
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>>136857374
I should have used all the ass shots but too lazy
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>>136854138
Have you only played MMOs?

A Cleric goes perfectly well on the front lines, and rangers can use daggers since forever, thief did his job perfectly by scouting and backstabbing, and the Wizard is obviously trying to keep her daily spell uses.

Play some real RPGs ffs, either tabletop or plain old Wizardry.

Though I agree they could've made it standard fantasy, the rpg aspects have been pretty minimal, no level ups or skill points, as far as we know they just have to pay money for a teacher to teach them skills, which makes a lot of fucking sense.
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Grimgar's got Yume's ass. Konosuba's got adventure guild's chick's tits.

What a combo.
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>>136857733
god bless yume
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>>136857671
Log Horizon was good, and so was .Hack.

In fact, I'd say SAO is simply the worst, as it doesn't do shit with the concept.
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>>136857755
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>>136857671
He just want to shipost for whatever reason.
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>>136857751
>A Cleric goes perfectly well on the front lines
If it's a cleric in armor. An unbuffed cloth wearing cleric gets bashed just as easily as any spellcaster.
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>>136857789
>hipster: the post
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>>136857671
Sadly only one mmo anime can survive in the same season, only konosub will get multiple seasons while grimgar will end at volume 2 indefinitely
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>>136857755
Konosuba has Chris' ass too.
>>136857789
>Log Horizon was good,
If it wasn't for the episode long speeches about friendship and shit I would've finished watching S2, but I just couldn't stand it anymore.
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>>136857789
>.hack
>good
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>>136857789
SAO objectively better than grimshit
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>>136857411
Why seems so surprised? There are words for everything, even for things we've haven't even discovered yet.
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>>136857948
But there's no MMO anime this season
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>>136857964
>SAO
>good
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>>136856231

>What's wrong with rangers going melee?

Nothing really, I am reading the first law trilogy, and ferro maljin, the only woman in the group is a great archer and a strong fighter, she can also dress wounds and hunt for food.

But she trained very fucking hard to get here, I never see those guys in grindar doing any training, the archer should be training everyday but all she does is fuck around.
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>>136857900
Yeah, because Log Horizon and .Hack are so obscure right?

Fuck off, I even read until half the Alicization Arc before dropping it, and that was before the anime was over.

>>136857898
Well, they should be like level 1 or 2 and they probably don't have enough money for leather armor.

They did fuck up going after Hobgoblins, but you can't expect them to not use a frontline Cleric when they're lacking attack power.
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>>136857958

>following the path of the fingers

literally boners
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Even after 3 episodes of "character development" like you guys call it, this guy's death didn't feel in any way sad or relevant. This is what happens when you have a bunch of one dimensional tropes as main characters.
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>>136857732
Life knows no mercy.
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>>136858024
I don't disagree with that.
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>>136857948
>Konosuba
It will also end in volume 2 max(unless it rushing like crazy in later episode), and Konosuba is 10(+1 OVA in BD) episode show.
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>>136857900
Shit eater detected
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>>136857789
Log horizon is not bad but I don't like that they are way too knowledgeable about it and way too many game-ish.

I like Konosuba and this a lot more since it doesn't go full retard with these and not forcing the gaming elements.
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>>136856658
>what was it, like 2003? 2004?
The engine is surprisingly good for how old the game is.
>second game
>is it any good?
Engine is dogshit and game is shit. You might be able to play it but the first one is better.
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>>136857958
It flowed better in novel form, I really blame the director there, wasting an entire episode on that.
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>>136858011
Lets cut the foreplay and go straight to you explaining to me how paying gold to learn how the back stab 'skillru' while shouting the english name isn't gamey
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>>136858063
log horizon is still shit and inferior to SAO too
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>>136858116
It's only gamey if you think it's gamey.
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>>136857948
But Konosuba and Grimgar aren't mmo anime. Konosuba is making fun of reincarnating into fantasy world genre while Grimgar is also doing the same genre but as straight as possible.
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>>136858056
Of course not SAOfag
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>>136858064
They literally get transported to a game world and you're complaining about it being too much like a game.
Are you retarded?
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>>136858060
Its the highest rated anime of the season in japan, they probably already go the go ahead to produce next season
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>>136849047
Huh, the threads seem to be going by pretty fast, how is this show selling so far?
Any hopes for a second season, say, next year?
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>>136858120
>SAO better than anything
nah m8
papa bones >= grimgar > hack >> log >>> shit >>> S A O
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>>136857964
>>136857900
I will fight to the death each faggot who calls Hack Sign bad.
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>>136858116
Anon, I know it's hard to believe, but there is a relatively good chance you have to pay someone to teach you how to punch properly in real life.
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>>136858199
That depends on the director and team's schedule. No amount of sales will help that.
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>>136858064
Well, they're different, Log Horizon is too game-ish because that's the point, the author wasn't trying to make a normal fantasy story and just shove the gaming aspects to make it easier to understand, he actually wanted to tell a story about what would happen if the game became real, so of course he's going to use the game aspect and people who know about it.

Konosuba is standard reincarnation story, but it does a good job of not taking itself seriously, it's also more of a comedy than anything else, so don't expect any hard consequences of anything the characters do. It's also very game like, something that's noticed by Kazuma, and a lot of the rules are really arbitrary and are mostly there for the sake of comedy.
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>>136858034
Chris is made for boners.
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If you eat the ashes does that count as cannibalism? And what do they taste like?

Asking for a friend
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>know he is going to die thanks to spoilers
>still fall in love with manato anyway
>i didnt need this suffering

Haruhiro a second best boy i guess.

Still the comfiest anime this season. I like the insert songs and mellow scenes.

>relaxing and being loud as hell in enemy territory

Why?
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>>136852558
I want to lick these feet.
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>>136858191
Highest rated of what? stalker thread? well i can tell at current status Konosuba will be something like 3k average, since it's only one version doing good there unlike GATE, drrr or even bokudake.
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>>136858214
Why Overlord should be top list the MC has to fake everything about himself and start out Max lvl , at least Log Horizon and Grimgar got the concept right and manages to be interesting.
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>>136858214
I disagree.

LH >= Hack > OL > Konosuba > Grimgar >>> SAO

If you want to throw something else there, I'd put Mushoku Tensei above all of them, but MT isn't game-like.
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>>136858100
>Engine is dogshit and game is shit. You might be able to play it but the first one is better.
MOTB is the best NWN game/module ever.
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>>136858025
Ferro Maljin is also part-demon
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>>136858330
When you're relaxing, you often forget things.
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>>136852558
Best legs
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>>136858024
I liked SAO until the fairy bullshit and muhAsuna came crashing through. I wish they spent more episodes about the struggles within the game itself.
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>>136858331
So does everyone, get in line.
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>>136858283
Sales are the first parameter though, if it gtes shit sales, all hope is lost.
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>>136858331
>Expecting lots of thights/feets related doujin related to her
>Most likely getting raped to death by goblins doujins instead
It's not fair, /a/. Why can't doujins into fetishes anymore?
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>>136858306
I wanna steal her panties and pass them down in my family as a treasured heirloom.
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>>136857733
Someone swap Yume face with some of her ass shots.
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>>136858398
Get this washed up ass slut out of here, the messy haired renji's party girl is the real waifu - probably is not only less dumb but more pure too
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>>136858247
>instead of sticking guy from front, stick guy from back
>that'll be 5 gold
I'd become a skill trainer in Grimgar. And once I have enough money, open a brothel.
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>>136858448
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>>136853648

Why does Yume have such a magnificent lower body?
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>>136858495
Everything about her is excellent, apart from the brain maybe.
But I'm not going to fuck her brain.
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>>136858374
>>136858297
>protag has to be in immediate danger to make the series interesting
so why don't you watch shonenshit instead?
OL is good enough to be on top given that Log is just muh friendship and muh jewish keikaku and Grimgar is far from over hence the >= mark
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>>136858247
They would mostly being teaching you about your footwork, there should be a tatics trainer next episode were they all learn how retarded they are and there is character progression
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>>136851916

Serves em right to be so relaxed in enemy territory.
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>>136858475
Anon, it's not just about stabbing them in the back, it's about where to stab, proper footwork and knife-holding techniques. Do you honestly believe it's just as simple as 'stab in back for profit'? Boxing would just be known as 'punch people repeatedly' then.
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>>136858214
>>136858377
There will never be a better MMO anime than Sign. Never. If you can't see it you've got a bad case of shit taste, like at a child's level.
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