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What the fuck is wrong with this anime??
Holy shit.
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What's wrong with trying to live?
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>>136370624
They ambushed him while he was doing nothing to them.
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>>136370645
That's life.
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>>136370654
They didn't even eat him
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>>136370687
He doesn't seem very tasty.
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>>136370591
So, you want to have Gob refugees coming into your town pretending to be peaceful while they rape your woman in the alleys?
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>>136370591
reminds me of my first DnD game
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>>136370705
>Importing orcs to solve your birthrate issues
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Anita Sarkeesian would hate this game.
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>>136370776
>>>/v/
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>>136370591
What anime? Is its name grimdark?
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>>136370591
It is, just like Gundam and other propaganda japanes media - brainwashing and preparing their youth for next occupation of China.
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>>136370687
they stole his money, though
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>>136370818
Good, China deserves to be occupied by someone educated and smart.
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>>136370798
The High and Mighty asses of Grimdark.
Look it up.
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>>136370742
>Elves importing orcs to solve birthrate issues
>Drawn by Fatalpulse
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Anyone else liking the animation and visual style so far?
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>>136370833
So they are no better than a bunch of niggers?
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>>136370855
>not H.B.A

You fucked up
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>>136370833
It's not theft when you kill the victim.
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>>136370870
Well I like that >>136370852 visual style for sure.
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>>136370855
>not as a side story to the tale of elf-slut & orc-bro
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>>136370870
It's really pretty.
I like it.
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>>136370852
Pls anon I googled it no results just tell me animoo name pls no bully me :'(
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>>136370900
Don't use emoticons on /a/.
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>It's an anime based on a LN with retarded MMORPG mechanics
How do they keep getting away with this shit
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>>136370915
Probably by not being shitposters.
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>>136370915
Careful anon the fringe defense force might wake up and straw man ur shit
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>mfw 2 episodes in and Boob Mage already got laid.
This shit hits harder than reality.
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>>136370927

Teams working on MMO anime are the studio equivalent to shitposters.
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First experience in killing the creature is hard.
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>>136370946
Yeah, but we're not talking about A-1 here.
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Man episode one bored the fuck out of me. I guess I'll download episode 2 and check it out if people are getting laid.
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>>136370951
Will Ranta in Making A Murderer new episode?
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>>136370959
Apparently shit doesn't happen until do 3

2 is really fucking boring
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>>136370798
>>136370900
if you've seen less than 10 anime then get the fuck off of my board
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>>136370870
The anime character designs are a step up from the LN, which is unusual since most of the time the LN designs are better.
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>>136370900
fuck off back to /v/ retard.
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>>136370985
>10
>not bare minimum 200
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>>136370986
I like the backgrounds the most. But the character designs are somewhat memorable and don't clash horribly with the background, especially in the forest scenes.
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>>136370941
>Manato lied about going to the bar
>He was actually fucking boob Mage while everyone else is sleeping
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>>136371013
no because that would imply that he's seen more than 10.
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>>136370985
>if you've seen less than 10 anime
Where did you leave the remaining two zeroes?
You wanted to say 1000, right?
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>>136371013
The minimum has been steadily decreasing in the past decade.
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>>136371020
Nah, he was preparing his Last Will.
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GOBS DINDU NUFFIN, HE A GUD BOY
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>>136370974
Monster slayer is the only thing for them to do for budget and survival.
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>>136371013
This
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That episode was pretty intense, It really had a vibe of
>Holy shit, He's actually going to try and kill us.
As opposed to the usual
>Teamwork and Friendship triumphs all!
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>>136371050
should've just done that from the start then dumbass, don't ask stupid questions.
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>>136371066
ITT: WoW noobs that never played Darkfall
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>>136371050
I just tried image searching the ass pic and it came as the first result. Are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>136371066
They'd better poison edgy-knight kun or something if they want to survive though.
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>>136371066
It was good.
I liked the realism. The screams really helped in the gob killing scene.
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>>136370591
It's grim and dark, what don't you get?
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>>136371066
>if they lather on life or death dialogue enough it'll make any encounter seem extraordinary
Does everyone keep fucking forgetting priest it can heal major artery cuts and walk away with no issues
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>>136371084
>Darkfall
I don't play Western trash.
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>>136370870
The watercolor backgrounds look like a bunch of cardboard cutouts since the characters are animated in such a different style. Looks like garbage desu
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>>136371122
Reported.
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>>136371132
Apparently blood loss is a thing.
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>>136371132
Oh come on, Unless he has a revival spell they fucked.
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>>136371142
Implying there is even a single decent Japanese MMO
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>>136371107
>realism
They just brutally murdered a self-aware, sentient creature, and later the same day the girls were literally buying pantsu and doing cute stuff with no remorse at all. The only one who was somewhat affected was the guy that took the kill.
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>>136371122
>I have a perfectly good phone
It's not perfectly good if it can't image search. Mine can, poorfag-kun.
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>>136371162
That's a level 5 spell. No way a beginner can cast that.
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>>136371169
>Implying there is even a single decent MMO
FTFY
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>>136370705
>Describe Germany in one sentence.
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>>136371197
Metin2.
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>>136371016
It's astonishing how much they changed them and yet it looks better that way.

Still laughing about Renji being GARcher.

>>136370870
I really like it. It's really relaxing.


I don't like the fact that they rushed the beginning so much. Or rather, mixed it together.
Especially the getting out of the tower-scene.
That irritated me so much that I took a look at the LN i-it's not like I was doing it because I liked it or anything.
Glad the getting out of the tower wasn't that fucked up in the source material. Might drop the LN though, not too sure about that yet.
Most of it so far seems to be deifying Manato.


Do they change classes later on? They seem to drop an awful lot of hints that they don't actually fit their classes.
Boob-mage fucking up her spell, Tank being too agressive and clumsy, Hunter not being good at archery.

MC as Thief seems alright, so does Curly as Dread-Knight and Manato as Priest. But the rest?
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>>136370591
That scene was pretty fucked up. I expected them to kill the goblin and the death to be 100% meaningless besides the whole "We finally did it" moment. Seeing the goblin scream because he wanted to live and seeing the MC shake after they killed him felt pretty fucking real.
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Is the archer girl really a girl outside the game?
I need to know if it's OK to fap to her.
It was hinted that the boob mage is a fat girl IRL, but we got nothing on the asscher
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>>136371308
What game? Are you fucking retarded?
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>>136371308
Yeah nah fuck boob girl confirmed for landwhale. Explains her boohoo i'm fat attitude.
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>>136371348
They are inside a game but lost their memories of the real world. Ep 1 was pretty fucking clear about that. And we got the buff guy making a toy plane in ep 2.
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Holy shit, that scene with the priest guy and boob mage going at it was hardcore.

This is like Mezzo Forte levels.
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>>136371348
It's implied they are inside a game or some virtual reality, the fact that the very concept of videogame was removed from their memories suggests that
>>136371349
>he does not like meaty girls.
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>>136371416
>meat
>fat
anon please
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>>136371395
Hahaha.
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>>136371436
Hahaha indeed.
It's a shame this is just another SAO clone. I'll enjoy it while the memory loss lasts.
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So they killed a goblin just because it was a goblin? Even though it pleaded for it's life and did nothing to them, they still murdered it?

Picked up
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STOP MURDERING GOBLINS FOR GODS SAKE
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>>136370591
Team Scrub did nothing wrong.

Except have any clue of how to fight properly.
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looking forward to more butt
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so did they fuck?
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>>136371547
every night they both have a MFF 3some with the priest dude
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>>136370956
MOVE GOB.
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>>136371547
they are both girls
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>>136371171
> The only one who was somewhat affected was the guy that took the kill.
I'll take "What is escapism?" for 100
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>>136371395
>They are inside a game
Are they really?
Haven't seen anything gamelike so far, like status screens/levels/mobs vanishing into thin air etc...
Looks like a regular fantasy world to me.
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>>136371569
>a apple
>a
Fuck these cunts.
It's aN apple.
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>>136371579
retard
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i actually felt sorry for the goblin when it was fucking cornered by noobs.
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>secondaries and EoP's thinking this is a game
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>>136371614
The goblin should just drop his necklace and run.

Or get a decent scar, drop the necklace and run.
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>>136371171
Is this going to become Narutaru-tier PTSD?
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>>136371614
goblin literally did nothing wrong
are they trying to make us hate the human party
so that we won't feel sad when they start to die one by one???
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>>136371606
>I-I was just pretending to be retarded, it's not a game after all, sorry sempai.
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>>136371481
They spend like 2 months murdering goblins.
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should've amplified the realism by having the party take turns raping the goblin before killing it
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>>136371349
>boohoo i'm fat attitude
Sounds like anorexia actually.
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REMOVE GOBLIN
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>>136371579
It's basically shitposting at this point, ignore it.
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>>136371646
That started on the opposite note.
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>>136371614
I wonder if they will ever encounter a really cute monster and feel sorry it or some shit.
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>>136371579
Nop. They are kidnapped/transport to another world. Imagine 15 years old kill a goblin in real world. Can you do that?
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>>136371726
Goblins are a natural enemy to the Human race

I say kill them all.
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Thats animal cruelty.
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>>136371724
Yes MC face dragon alone in v7, while he separated from his team
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>>136371726
I would. With crossbow so that i dont get close to them.
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>>136371726
You know what they say. Your first kill is hard. The 3rd kill is easy.
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Kill anything but human. Think the monster girls.
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>>136371787
There are no mongirls, only elves.
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>>136371871
Do they fuck the elves?
This is very important.
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>>136371726
Ancient soldiers practiced killing animals first before killing their fellow human.

The goblin would be hard to kill since it reminds you of an ugly midget which still has a humanoid shape.
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>>136371896
Soma has elf with him.
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>>136371013
10 is the minimum to lurk
200 is the minimum to post
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>>136371921
Nothing wrong about pointing out facts anon.
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>>136371979
There is a time and place for everything.
In this case >>>/pol/.
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>>136372001
This
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name 1 show where goblins are good.

fucker had it coming
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>>136371395
>>136371416
They were abducted to that fucked up world. It's not a game.
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>>136372001
Fuck off Professor Oak
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>>136372029
>tfw my eye keeps moving to FAT

I guess wizard girls are just my thing.
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>>136372071
It's a game. Read the fucking LN.
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>>136372118
It's not a game. Read the fucking LN.
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>>136372127
It is, you need to pay more attention. Especially to the kanji.
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>>136372118
Read summary vol 6
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>>136372203
>summary
Nigga you serious?
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>>136372172
Sure. Post an example then.
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Has anon prayed to Lord of Light Luminous today yet?
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>>136370872
They need to kill monsters to survive, that's the whole point of the show. Its Hunger Games, they need to kill to survive.
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it is not a "trapped in game" story
it is a "reincarnated in/teleported to magicworld" story
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Is this anime an Antithesis of Sword Art Online?
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>>136371399
Explain
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>>136372459
They suck each other's balls.
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>>136372435
Most of SAO fag hate this anime. Look MAL as example
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>>136372327
no they can find food from the vast forest
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Who draws the backgrounds?
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>>136372474
Because no edgy Gary Tsu for them to self-insert as?
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>>136372470
Sound gay
Are the novels translated? Is this an ero novel or what
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>>136372503
Yes you can look DanMachi as example, they hate early episode
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>>136372516
Translated. Google it
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>>136370870
I love it
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>>136372435
Yes, Grimgar is not obviously a game. The mc is not a Mary Sue, there is little to no romance, the mc is in a party, said party sucks balls, combat has consequences since party members can die.
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>>136371148
Like me and you anon!
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>>136370591
edgy as shit.
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>OOOH THE GOBLIN HAVE FEELINGS GUYS, THIS IS SO FUCKED UP
Are you people for fucking serious now.
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>>136373064
Gobs did nothing wrong. They were just chilling. I bet filthy humans came to this world and just randomly started attacking everything that moves.
We're never shown goblins being the aggressors except for self defense.
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>>136373234
Goblins and Humans are enemy races. Goblins do try to kill humans on sight.

Cut it out fucking gob sympathizer.
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>>136372978
edginess is good.
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>>136373373
Where was this shown?
As far as I'm concerned they kills goblins just for loot.
Goblins don't even attack their shitty town
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>>136370591
Turns out that without the cover of videogame HP and death animations, trying to murder a physically capable sapient being is pretty hard.
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>>136370879
You're absolutely right there
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>>136373507
Yeah, that scene was bit to realistic for my tastes. I wonder if goblins are the only enemy in the world and they couldn't just go and kill some other animal monsters.

Those guys are also bit fucked up in the head never considering they are about to kill some sapient being and not having any kinds of doubts.
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>>136373494
They havent said it yet, because ebin adaption but theres actually been a lich king - the Deathless King - who united the non-human tribes to the Undying Empire and then invaded the human lands, forcing the humans to retreat beyond the mountains.

The Deathless King died 100 years ago and the humans fought the empire back and then recovered lands beyond the mountains.

The goblins, orcs and kobolds which live near Altana have all been part of the Undying Empire are still at war with the humans.

The goblins they are killing are social poorfag rejects from the goblin society, though.
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>>136370591
I want more Jap adventurers doing nigger things.
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>FOUR minutes insert song in episode 2
Where the fuck the dialogue?
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So are they gonna mug kobolds next?
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>>136374018
Not before one of them dies to Goblins.
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>>136373064
They really messed this up.
This scene actually happens later and its not about gob feelings but actually about Haru wondering why his team is so weak that they still have problems with goblins and he realizes there that its not just about weak or strong but more about what they are trying to kill actually also has a will to live while they just want some cheap loot for food and this difference of seriousness is whats making it difficult.
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>>136374018
Later, for now they're going to mug more goblins, then some richer goblins. Once they've successfully mugged enough goblins to rouse the goblins to militarize their homes for protection, then they will go mug Kobolds to escape the increased security.
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>mfw best girl is an even bigger deadweight in combat than leeroy jenkins

I hope they'll soon realize they have no competent ranged DPS and dump her
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>>136370941
Nah, he's my self-insert for this show. We'll both die as men, too.
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>>136374107
Who are you referring to?

Because Titty Mage gets some sweet debuff spells like paralyze and sleep soon and Ass Ranger gets better with the bow and some cool throwing knives and becomes a pretty good ranged damage dealer.
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>>136374049
Good to see anime make the scene better.
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>>136371050
>acception

I want underage to leave.
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>>136370591
So how did evolution decide that those teeth would work well?
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Goblins are love, goblins are life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKRVugb1eao
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>>136374187

>evolution

I don't have the appropriate picture to respond to this but you can guess
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>>136374187
shark like teeth that constantly fall out and regrow so never form a nice shape, but can bite hard bone without worrying about long term tooth damage
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>>136372001
>Despite various reports about ORK rape gangs and video evidence I choose to be willfully ignorant and believe the ORK doctrine of WAAAARRGGHHHH (Waring to an unbeliever) over eyewitness statements, testimony, and bothersome mainstream newspapers :)

They say ignorance is bliss anon but wow you must live in ecstacy.
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Does this shit work on fucking RPG mechanics too? I can't stand that stupid crap, even Overlord, which did it pretty mildly, suffered massively from it.

Nothing worse than RPG combat in anime, fuck.
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>>136374187
Have you never seen any teeth other than your own or something?
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HOL UP.

You sayin niggas killed then looted sum chill goblins and sum nigga got laid already?
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This shows soundtrack is practically nonexistent.
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>>136374157
>mage learns support skills
Good. She landed a good hit on the Gob last episode and it didn't do jackshit. It's nice that she realized that she can't into DPS.
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>>136374294
Don't use emoticons on /a/.
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>>136374307
Yes and no. The anime has reduced the RPG mechanics. But maybe they will introduce it later, because theres actually skills.
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Fucking goblin apologists.

Get fucked, I hope they group slaughters all the goblins within their means.

Also Yume is a cutie pie.

Manato and Shihoru make a cute couple. Top work for a top lad.
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>>136370900
Grimgar
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>>136374332
What she just used was a level 1 Magic Missile, the only spell in Grimgar that all mages can use because it has no elemental affinity.

At her current mastery it has force equivalent to a solid punch from a human.

It's literally the worst spell available.
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>>136374157
Ass Ranger is still useless.
Her hit rate with the bow is still too low and here kukri and throwing knife focus make her neigher a good ranged fighter nor an off-tank like Haru.

Haru, Mary, Tits and Mogzu really do most stuff in a fight. Ranta and Ass are shit.
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>>136374307
>doesn't like RPG mechanics
>watches anime with RPG themes

Anon are you a masochist or a retard?
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You have no heart if you didn't feel sorry for Gobs.
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This is my first time reading the LN before watching the anime, they really leave out a lot, don't they?
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>>136374393
im agree with you, manato and shihoru is good couple. Maybe we can see them married later in the end of this episode. I root for them
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Why didn't thief just steal the loot and let the gob go?
It doesn't seem like they got any more gold from the body at all.
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>>136374486
Amateur thief getting in close, stealing stuff and getting away with it is very risky mission with high probability of death.
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>>136374486
Niggers gonna nig
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>>136371764
Depends on who you are. I know quite a few guys who've never gotten used to finishing people off once they're beaten. Still doing dumb shit like giving them smokes before they finish them to give themselves a little bit of time to steel themselves before they finish it up.
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>>136374486
The only skill he knows is pick lock right now.
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>>136374486
Thief actually cant steal yet. He only has 2 skills
- Pick Lock
- Hit (cut the wrist to disable the hand).
No stealth yet. They need to buy the skills first.
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>>136374486

everybody probably gets EXP from killing and leeroy jenkins needed a body part for his Vice or whatever
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>>136374187
>evolution
See? See everyone? This is what you get for kicking Jesus out of our schools, out of our country. This is what we have instead. Evolution. Men fucking born out of monkeys. I'm not falling for this shit, go back to r/atheism and stay there, this is a Christian board.
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>>136374475
http://grimgar.com/alterna/
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>>136374486

It's been explained.
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>>136370687

Alright, you caught me off guard with this one.
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>>136374523
Theres no game EXP. Only real life fighting experience.
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>Gobs
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One and a fucking half episode to take down a single goblin with a full party, what a bunch of incompetent fucks.
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>>136374545

aren't they supposed to get skills later on?
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Maybe they will change new OP at EP 4?
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>>136370879

If you live in a 1st world country it is. If you kill someone and take their car. It's still under their name and counts as stealing.
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>>136374594
Only if they pay their instructors with hard cash for it.
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>>136374610
Not only you live at 1st world country
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If they got hungry enough, would they whore out boobmage and hunter for shekels?

>>136370870

Watching it purely for the visuals. That rest scene was five minutes of COMFY. tfw you will never live in a medieval village scraping out a living killing gobs in the woods.

>>136370986

Of what I've seen, LN art is atrocious. Great rendering but fucking knife-nose faces. Jesus christ Japan, into Loomis.
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>>136374610
No, that's murder with robbery.
Theft is nonviolent.
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>>136370842
NEET -> Smart/Educated.

top kek.
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>>136374608
Visually? most likely.
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>>136374594
You trade money for skills, its not level based.
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GOBLIN LIVES MATTER
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>>136374678
Because every goblin is worth 6 XP.
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>>136374651
I would hate living in a medieval village, having to wake up extremely early to make my own food, make a fire, and no toilet paper around to wipe my butt.
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>>136374702
>make a fire
>implying you allow the fire to die
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If Yume got her shit together they'd be rich, one good shot with an arrow would take down almost anything.
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>>136374671
Is any change of Mary Visually? Cause they didn't show how Mary on anime
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If they didn't want to be poorfags then why didn't one of them roll a chemist?
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>>136374730
Or a rocket engineer?
They could kill hundreds of goblins in one strike if they had some modern weaponry.
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>>136374664

They're still getting their shit taken. Only difference is one option leaves the victim alive to bitch about it.
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>>136374763
Nobody denied that. It's just not defined as theft.
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>>136374730
>>136374748
Why not just roll cyborg? Future weaponry would be even more effective I reckon.

Also how do they shit, eat, etc microwaves.
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>>136374748
Gate fag
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>>136374702
You already fucked up. You don't make fire, thats super hard and requires almost half a hour of effort in good conditions.
You maintain fire.
And somebody would be tormented to stay 1-2 hours up longer at night, to fuel the ashes and cinders.
I.E Askeladd is a name given for somebody forced to stay up longer, so wheover wakes up in the middle of the night can refuel the fire.
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>>136374594
You learn skills by paying money to your guild to teach you the skill in question.

You basically pay money for personal combat training. There are no levels, there are no magical RPG mechanics
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>>136374763
Its a stupid joke anon because its technically robbery not theft then and robbery is a worse crime. Its just a stupid definitions joke.
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>>136374702
>make my own food
Are you a girl?
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>>136374827
Even idiots can catch fish and roll it over a fire.
Fish is all you need, meat is for chads.
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>>136374827
You aren't?
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>>136374702

It's not that bad. Mainly they ate gruel and bread, bread being bought from a baker and gruel being essentially oatmeal. Plus a stewpot of whatever shit you could get, and that's basically like using a crock pot. Just set it over the fire and toss stuff in.

>wipe butt

Apparently it doesn't get that shitty if you have a good diet and use a squat toilet rather than western throne style.

Everything but the hay looks comfy. Fuck picking hay out of my hair, and imagine fucking on that.
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>>136374726
http://grimgar.com/music/music.html
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>>136374806
The skills are the mechanics. Like Ranta has the [Leap] skill or something which is a backwards jump. He then uses it as an ass attack later backwards jumping towards a kobold and ass attacking him.

If it were straight up combat training these kind of gimmicks wouldnt be necessary.
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>>136373507
>>136373767
Ugly things aren't sapient.
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>>136374373
Save this for later, it's only going to get bigger.
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>>136374846
Millennials don't know how to fish.
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>>136374846
If you live in a real house chances are there's a woman responsible for the food.
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>>136370591

I like that the fighting was realistic. It felt like a bunch of ordinary/inexperienced people trying to kill someone struggling, as they should.

This series at least has the atmosphere down for another stuck-in-an-MMO show. No special snowflakes helps as well. The balanced amount of males and females with no harem elements means we can have normal character relationships.
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>>136374869
I'm ugly and I resent that statement.
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>>136374858
Maybe it's all a scam to get easy money as a teacher.
>>136374917
It's not a game, it's another world.
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>>136373767
they did consider it though, with the whole "it wants to live too" line and how fucked up they were afterwards with the MC shaking and dropping his dagger.

kids will have ptsd by the end of the season.
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>>136374827
I made stew in the middle of a forest while camping using exactly zero prepared ingredients. All the plants, water and meat was collected in the wild. I started the fire using no tools.

It was pretty delicious but gritty, I think there was some dirt in there.
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>>136374917
It's not a game.

Pay fucking attention, faggot.
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>>136374976

That sounds interesting. I've always wanted do something like that, but I've never had the chance.
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Why not stab some guy in back alley instead and mug him? Should be easier, loot would be better too.

You could even justify it that those fuckers kidnapped you, wiped your memory and forced to kill other sapient beings.
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>>136374951
The opposite actually. They all become indifferent towards killing. Haru tries to remain respectful of the dead.
Ranta goes on and becomes a super savage going
>YEEESHHHH VICEEEE MORE VICE MORE SACRIFICE FOR SKULLHEIL AND LORD RANTA MORE VICE MORE VICE
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>>136374998
To be honest it's not that great.

Took hours to gather everything and I had to be really careful with the plants to not get anything poisonous or inedible.
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>>136375001
They'd probably have less money on them than a goblin since there's a bank.
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Please tell me I'm not the only one who remembers them by class and not by name.
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>>136375012
I really hate that guy
Hope he dies instead of sucking up screen time being emo because of "man is the animal" bullshit
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>>136375035
Yume is the only one worth remembering.
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>>136375035
I'm usually bad with names and I remember them

Moguzo - Warrior
Manato - Priest
Haruhiro - Thief
Ranta - Dread Knight
Yume - Ranger
Slut - Mage
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>>136375035
You didn;t remember Yume?
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>>136372327
what ever happen to cultivation?
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>>136375050
Nah, Haru gets character development and starts seeing his combat worth and becomes more accepting of him.
Ranta never changes.
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>>136375016

Yeah, but you learned from doing it. I like learning new skills. Whether it's useful in the long term only time will tell.
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>>136375090
You expect random 16 year olds to able to grow their own crops with no land?
This is the best thing they can do, if they work for someone they'd start off as a slave.
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>>136374159
Agreed. More of a SHIT JUST GOT REAL feeling.
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>>136375090
Have fun getting raped by Orcs and then becoming a brains eating Zombie after death because both Orc Invasions and the Deathless Kings curse are a thing.
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>>136373832
if the deathless king is deathless why did he die
tomino is a hack
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>>136375090
How would you get seeds to grow crops?

How would you get land to grow crops?

Do you know how to grow crops?
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>>136375156
Deathless means without death.
To kill somebody means to give them death.
I don't see the problem.
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>>136375156
I thought that was ironic as well.

>Deathless king
>Died
kek
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>>136375156
His realm was also called the Undying Empire.
It died after the Deathless King died :^)
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Oblin.
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So he die next episode? or one more episode?
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>>136374976

Nice. I don't bother bringing heavy ass cooking equipment camping. Also live in a faggy state; no wilderness around to collect noms. Or at least you aren't supposed to. What kind of meat did you get, anon? Squirrel?

>>136374827

>living off prepackaged food because "cooking is for girls"

Insecure skellington detected, I bet your macros are solid carbs.
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>>136375305
>>living off prepackaged food because "cooking is for girls"
He was talking about the middle ages, moron.
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I want to date Yume!

Top lass.
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>>136370591
It was a mercy killing
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>>136375336
i want to kill something with yume and fuck on top of the corpse
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>>136375336
>top ass
ftfy
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>>136374719
Now that you mention it, that bothered me when I saw it. I'm like why the fuck is he spinning up a new fire from kindling IN TOWN?

Clearly it was done to show the audience HEY LOOK THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE FIRE! SCIENCE!
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>>136375305
No it was some kind of bird, I built some makeshift bird traps (my grandfather taught me how to make them) because hunting with firearms or even bows is illegal where I live. Anything you catch has to be with either a trap or your bare hands (though, technically speaking I don't think any kind of trapping is allowed here either but what the government doesn't know won't hurt them).
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Did they really kill off the priest in the manga?
It's like the self inserts can't handle a more reliable guy on the team
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>>136375311
Good find, thanks for sharing.
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>>136375406
>reliable guy
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>>136375406
Probably next episode?
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>>136374798
I would be tempted to go full-Haku and come up with some sort of wooden clockwork shit to automatically dump logs onto the fire once per hour. Smart-lazy is superior.
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>>136375116
>employment is slavery
>murder is just fine to survive
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>>136374539
>alterna
>オルタナ
Is it Alterna and not Ortana? It would make more sense if it's Alterna, as in alternate.
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>>136375469
>dump logs
That's not how you do it. Minimum feeding is what you want, so that you don't go through your resources too quickly, don't heat too much, but keep the fire alive.
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>>136375492
If they work they barely get enough to live, if they get good at killing they get enough money for weeks of food from one kill.
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>>136375469
Nahh, Haku wouldn't invent anything. He only invent sweet. He no scientist but hacker.
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Fuck guys, it's too soon. I didn't want this to happen
Props to him for choosing best class, though
;-;7
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>>136375469
No you wouldnt. You probably would tell other people about your idea but then your memories of engineering would fade away and you would sit in front of the fire and think
>fuck what the hell did I want to make?
realizing that you dont even remember what a "clockwork" is supposed to be.
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>>136370985
>my board

No, leave us redditors alone from our board.
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>>136375523
Still not slavery.
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>>136371256
that whole scene was surprisingly intense, i thought it would be more on a wonky/comedic note.
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>>136375573
You should watch KonoSuba gifting then. Wrong anime menn
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>>136375572
"“Best of luck,” Bri said with an exaggerated shrug. “Other available jobs are way more difficult than volunteer soldier. Even if someone were to hire you, your wages are so low you’ll barely scratch out a living. You’ll also start off as pretty much a slave-boy to your new master.”"
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>>136370591
If you think this is fucked up, imagine what happens if they are sent to take out human bandits.
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So LN is getting translated?
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>>136375390

That's pretty cool, anon. You should make a video and post it on youtube for everyone. I'm jealous.

Apparently here rabbits and squirrels are considered residents and have legal protection. I cornered a rabbit in my garden when I went out to harvest some greens, so I had a knife in my hand. I was really considering pouncing on the fucker, but it looked pathetic so I let it go. Now I think it would have gone like gobs butcher scene. Trying to hold onto a bloody, squirming, flailing rabbit with one hand and stab it with the other.
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>>136375523
The LNs havent properly touched on this yet. But based on >>136375603 I would think that people called to Grimgar and then doing "normal jobs" would be treated like lower life forms because they are expected to do soldier work.
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>>136375629
LN is translated until Vol 3. Next time check Bakasuki before asking
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>>136375603
>pretty much
Slavery is not voluntary, you know?
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Hahahaha, oh Shihoru.
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>>136375633
As a kid I once chased a rabbit buck naked after sauna just for shits and giggles. Damn buggers change directions better than me on wet grass.
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>>136370591
the goblin was alone when they travel in packs, and had a coin around his neck like the human mercenaries who get sent here.

This goblin was a failure at the game, and he was punished by getting turned into part of it.
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>>136375673
Of course it's voluntary. Either you do as you're told or you die.
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>>136375649
I think it's just because regular work makes absolutely no money so they can't pay workers a decent wage.
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>>136375678
How do you miss with magic missile?
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>>136375652
I'm already in this thread. Opening new tab and googling seems like such a bother. Thanks though.
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>>136375673
Depends what type of slavery, Irish people did voluntary slavery to get to America.
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>>136374651
>loomis

Thanks for reminding me that I need to go to /ic/ more often
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>>136375709
1d0
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>>136375710
Sorry man, i live in the first world. Basically never asking anyone before i researched something first
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>>136375530
Oh yeah, that fucking mind wipe bullshit would've kicked in. At least it tortures the main characters a little for us.
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>>136375744
What the fuck is a D0?
How do you make a die without faces? How do you roll it? I mean, it can't land, so the roll is never finished. It just hovers there and you wait for nothing to happen.
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>>136375469
How? No one remembers their previous life and knowledge. Even if you remember the words, you have no idea what it even means or how to build it using non-modern tools and materials.
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>>136375694
Goblins have their own civilization, maybe the goblin just didn't have any friends or was an outcast, also it's not a game.
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>>136375792
It's a round sphere.
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>>136375813
it's not a game for your player avatar or the npc's you slaughter either.
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>>136375813
>be ugly
>poor
>no friends
>chilling at river
>some bunch of retards come and murder me
fucking immigrants
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>>136375719
Indentured servitude is "not" slavery. It's just a really really really stacked contract that is nearly impossible to pay off and might change at any time like college tuition
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>>136375709
Because it's not d&d. Let's see you try aiming with no sights and have to move your arms for casting before firing.
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>>136375859
It is also generally done in exchange for something expensive, like a trip on a boat to a new continent.
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>>136375859
It's basically the same thing though, let's be real here.
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>>136375859
Indentured servants were often treated way worse than actual slaves because your masters wanted maximum output from you before you get free.
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>>136375709
She was successful in attacking the darkness.
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Do goblins usually have that kind/level of loot on them or was that one in particular spoiled by his hardworking mother who worked 3 jobs to get him a cool necklace for his birthday so that he might feel confident enough to go make some friends since he's always by himself.
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Gobbo was a good boy trying to get his life together. Then the racist human supremacists murdered him execution style with assault blades. He didn't do anything!
#Goblinlivesmatter
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>>136375966
Goblins are literally creations of an evil god and are generally bound to their will.

Kill all gobbos.
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>>136375966
A goblin raped my mother.
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>>136376086
So that makes you half goblin?
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>>136376086
You have any idea how many greenskins are murdered daily by human supremacists!
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What kind of racial bonuses do goblins get?
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>>136374827
>women
>knowing how to cook
>implying the best chefs aren't male
Just because cook is one stroke away from cock doesn't mean they are good at it.
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reminder that if Yume wasnt fucking useless none of this would have happened since she could have killed the gobbo before he even realised
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>>136376119
Yes, gob.
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>>136375070
You made a mistake, it is

Shitty Faggot - Dread Knight
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>>136372503
What about the preist he's not edgy but he's a mary-sue if the author had a martyr complex.
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>>136376190
Can you imagine how easy it would be if you were a decent ranger in this world? Class training costs 7 silver, that's only 7 goblins.
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>>136375913
>>136375914
It's not a great thing, but it is in an entirely different moral category, especially when you consider what came out of it over generations.

>>136376153
:: Goblin ::

Goblins are small creatures that many consider to be little more than a nuisance. Standing just over 3 feet and weighing less than 50 pounds, these creatures are seldom intimidating on their own but can be cunningly lethal in larger numbers. Their skin tone ranges from yellow to deep red, and they prefer to wear colors that blend into their natural surroundings of dark caverns. Often bullied by the larger races, goblins have learned to exploit their advantages, usually in the form of sheer numbers and ingenuity.

Goblin Ability Adjustments: +2 Dex, -2 Str, -2 Cha
Favored Class (Rogue): A multiclass goblin's rogue class does not count when determining whether he suffers an XP penalty for multiclassing.

Special Abilities:

- Small Stature:
- +1 size bonus to attack rolls.
- +1 size bonus to AC.
- +4 size bonus to Hide checks.
- Darkvision: Goblins are able to see in the dark.
- Skill Affinity (Move Silently): +2 racial bonus to Move Silently checks.
- Goblinoid: Goblins count as Goblinoids for the purpose of spells.
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>>136376202
Failing to protect your mother's womb from the goblin D makes you no better than vile scum.
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>>136376190
Why didn't haruhiro just 'nothin personnel' him from behind?
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>>136376230
Does that attack bonus count for sexual assault as well?
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>>136376221
No "I'm gonna shoot up this school" trench coat, no phallic sword. And religion is anti-edgy.
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Shihoru needs some cram school with both Freke and Yuria.

Truly a disappointing mage.
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>>136376241
Can't beat the cock.
You know this.
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>>136374846
Fish is meat, you fucking pescatarian.
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Have these retards never heard of training? They shouldn't be fighting goblins until they can put a dent in a fucking scarecrow.
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>>136376298
>And religion is anti-edgy.

Depends on the religion. Fantasy religions have a very high chance of being edgy.
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>>136376398
They can't afford more training, they have to kill to get food.
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>>136376398
They should all have gone for archer training
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So which type of LN garbage will be popular?
MMOshit with retards party?
MMOshit with gary stu party?
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>>136376086
Stop lying, I have been told it was consensual since she asked for it first.
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>>136376426
It doesn't cost money to do 20 pushups and swing at a log, anon. Even then they'd probably lose.
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>>136376522
>It doesn't cost money to do 20 pushups and swing at a log,
Right. That only costs energy. Are you more likely to win against a goblin when you're exhausted or when you're still in peak condition?
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>>136376486
Can't we have actual fantasy anime without bullshit vidya crap like adventurers' guild?
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>>136376522
While they're wasting time doing training that'd take weeks to have any difference they'd be starving to death.
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>>136376190
The goblin survived multiple stab wounds and a fuckhuge sword caving into its skull. An arrow, especially one fired by an amateur, isn't going to do anything but make it angrier.
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>>136376426
Why they don't find a job? You know, normal job in MMO or fantasy world
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>>136371171
Well the girls didn't actually do anything, anything they tried to do was from afar so perhaps they weren't as bothered by it as the guys that were fighting for their lives.
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>>136376314
Why does she have a staff if she isn't even using it for spells?
Is it to support her back because of her cowtits?
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>>136376578
Their problem isn't an issue of rolling high enough numbers, anon. Their problem is coordinating team tactics. It's much FASTER to train team tactics when everyone is cool headed rather than losing battle after battle.
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>>136376572
Adventurers' guild exist in fantasy genre
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>>136376588
A human would survive all those stabs.
one well aimed arrow near the heart is all it would take
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>>136376324
This.
I still don't get why vegetarians are fine with eating fish but not meat.
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>>136376592
Why would they get a job that barely gets them enough to eat when they can kill a goblin and get weeks of food money?

>>136376572
>guilds
>vidya crap
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>>136376609
Yes
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>>136376620
Coordination means nothing when they have no battle experience.
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>>136376578
Yet the girls have enough time to go shopping for pepe hats instead of range practice.
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>>136375813
>be a goblin
>wants to sing, write poetry, grow beautiful flowers etc.
>be outcast from the warrior society and forced to live alone
>be murdered by human assholes

Think about it, they killed a goblin NEET.
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>>136376701
Give them a break, if they didn't they'd go insane.
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What I don't get is why they decide to form MMO parties instead of forming a proper fighting force.\

>We're gonna all be different classes because lol
>Thief ever being more relevant than fighter or priest or based palladin or literally anything that either puts out or soaks up damage.

Why are there no polearms. Why are there no tactics. Where are my glorious line infantry.
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>>136376786
A real thief would be a very valuable addition to a group of starving kids. Just don't ask him where he got the money from.
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>>136376786
A balanced mix of classes is objectively superior for small groups, polearms are way too gimmicky and need way too much training to be useful.
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>>136376786
shhhhh you are making too much sense.
How can this be SAO 5.21134 if they aren't in parties?

Really they should've just united and crusaded the monsters asses.
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>>136376786
RPG Thieves are great.
They can steal shit and debuff the enemy.

The Mage girl pisses me off though; one of my pet peeves is magic users who stand around doing nothing. Any second spent not-casting is wasted DPS.
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>>136377083
Her aura is clouded. She can't cast spells.
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>>136377164
Well then she's completely useless. No, worse than that, she's a liability and should probably stay at home cleaning or something.
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>>136376786
a proper fighting force requires support for everything but fighting, they have no one to back them up
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>>136376701
It's called 'Rewarding yourself after a hard day of work'.
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>>136370591
stupidly slow progress. also terrible direction. how hard do they have to show that these guys are newbies? yeah we get it. holy jesus fuck, just move on already
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>>136376859
>superior for small groups
But there is literally no reason to be in a small group.

>Polearms are gimmicky
>The staple of infantry combat for hundreds of years is a "gimmick"
No.

>need way too much training to be useful.
Also completely wrong, polearms are cheap and easy as fuck to use, why do you think they gave them to peaseant conscripts?

Goblins have absolutely no way to break a line of people with halberds, if they had all stuck together they could have fucking steamrolled all the goblins they saw.
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>>136371569

>This psychological phenomenon allows otherwise empathetic human beings to ignore the consequences of their actions by holding mutually exclusive conceptions about ethics and morality.

What is cognitive dissonance?

>Correct,
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I don't care what anyone says. I kinda like fantasy Tarou
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>>136374917
What in the actual fuck makes people think that this is a game?
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>>136377278
Kids these days associate modern looking characters in a fantasy world as them being trapped in a virtual world as opposed to physically traveling to another world. They need to watch more Escaflowne and less SAO.
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>>136377249
Spoken like a true SAOfag.
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>>136377231
>they have no one to back them up

Except, you know, the whole village they live in.

I'm not saying they go full Oda Nobunaga and try and unite the land with hundreds of thousands of troops, I'm just saying that there isn't any reason for them to split into smaller parties when there is plenty of money to go around if you have the ability to kill every goblin, kobold, or orc you lay eyes on with the bare minimum of effort.
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>>136377260
>But there is literally no reason to be in a small group.
They're rookies, if they were in a large group they'd only be able to fight against other large groups and they'd get destroyed.

>The staple of infantry combat for hundreds of years is a "gimmick"
In a small group, yes. The polearm fighting they'd have to do is hooking people with the hook and then having someone else stab, that's nigh impossible in small fights with no training.

>why do you think they gave them to peaseant conscripts?
Are you really comparing hundreds of peasants to a group of 5 people? A line of 5 people with halberds would be ridiculously easy to beat.
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>>136377337
Escaflowne doesn't have classes, stats, party, amnesia and retards. Try harder
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>>136376696
> Football practice is completely meaningless until you play a few games
Uh. Do you even fucking know what Practice is? The whole point of Practice is to GAIN experience.
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>>136377413
That practice is meaningless in combat though if you have no experience fighting.
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>>136377260
Because that's boring. I'd rather watch an unpredictable battle than marching machines winning by default before the fight even started.
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>>136377445
> Best laid plans, yada yada.
When shit is life or death, you fucking train for it. You don't jump in blind.
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>>136377347
Congrats, you just crashed the market.
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>>136375156
Probably because his influence is still present in the world and it's kinda implied that he might be coming back soon.
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>>136377483
What training would you do to fight a goblin? There's nothing to prepare you for it but killing goblins, especially in a medieval world.
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>>136377347
>march in huge group
>goblins hear
>goblins get more goblins
>goblins kill untrained villagers

Goblins live their entire lives as fighters, there's no way some peasants would be able to take them down.
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>>136377523
Training 1: Swing a sword
Training 2: Swing a sword without hitting yourself
Training 3: Swing a sword without hitting your ally
Literally that's the level of rookies we're dealing with here.
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>>136377411
not him but you have terrible reading comprehension. that was his whole point.
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>>136377411
>every anime needs to be exactly like Escaflowne to be considered as a series that has 'true' fantasy setting

Ok.
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>>136371132
lose enough blood and you still won't recover.
imagine your lung being pierced by a dagger but hey Mr mage can fix that. he can sow the wound but can he remove the excruciating amount of blood that just poured into your lung causing you to suffocate.
magic is a tool not a miracle.
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>>136370591
Virtual reality bullshit again? Do they get their memories back?
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>>136377551
They already know all that and it doesn't help one bit.
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>>136377347
I doubt it, a big party would be slower and easier to detect, hostiles would just flee at the sight of a much bigger force, they wouldn't be able to hunt as much
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>>136377551
How did you get back from planning the attack to training?
We already agreed that training would take too fucking long.
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>>136377361
>hey were in a large group they'd only be able to fight against other large groups

Why? Killing gobs apparently earns loads of bank, just take a group of 20 and steamroll ever little group of 4-8 goblins you see for days.

>>136377361
>The polearm fighting they'd have to do is hooking people with the hook and then having someone else stab
>Polearms in charge of killing anything ever.

That is why you have archers and mages.

>Line infantry form glorious impenetrable wall of pikes
>Shoot any goblins that run, shoot any that stand still
>Gain gold

>>136377467
>Not wanting it to escalate to battles involving complex maneuvers of 100 of infantry
>Not wanting to watch heavy cavalry rout the goblin peasantry.
>Not wanting medieval LotGH

>>136377550
>untrained warriors in charge of breaking line infantry.

Goblins don't have the equipment, the organization, or the training.
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>>136377411
>classes
>party
Those are Japanese fantasy tropes, not strictly MMO shit.
>stats
Not a thing in Grimgal
>amnesia and retards
Has nothing to do with MMOs.
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>>136377579
>Only Escaflowne doesn't have stats, classes, party amnesia and retards

OK.
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>>136377633
>Goblins don't have the equipment,
Goblins have expensive necklaces that they can sell.
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>rookies
They're not rookies. They're full retards.
>>136377594
>Do they get their memories back?
It will be too hard to write for ghostwriters
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>>136375469
Haku doesn't really invent anything. He's just good at logic (which he has to be, considering he used to be a programmer) and can figure out how to fix simple mechanisms thanks to that.
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>>136370591

I watched the goblin scene after reading this thread. Is this another MMO-Anime like Log Horizon? Is it good?
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>>136376629
Do you have any idea how hard it is to fire an arrow at such a small area without using modern day bows, especially if the goblin is moving around? Even people with guns can't do that reliablely and now you expect a person with barely a month of training with traditional bows to do it on her first shot?
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>>136377623
If they knew those things they wouldn't be having so much trouble. They haven't even pretended to work as a group ONCE. 100% recipe for failure right there.
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>>136377668

>Goblins
>Expensive necklaces

Yeah goblins are truly famous for being jewelers.
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>>136375709
Because it's not magic missile, just a shit-tier stun spell.
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>>136377633
>Why? Killing gobs apparently earns loads of bank, just take a group of 20 and steamroll ever little group of 4-8 goblins you see for days.
They'd see or hear you and get more goblins, they have a civilization in this world and they're a lot stronger than some random peasants with pointy sticks.

>That is why you have archers and mages.
The goblins have those too, now you have to have armour for all your line infantry or they'll get destroyed by a handful of ranged goblins.

>Goblins don't have the equipment, the organization, or the training.
They have all of those actually.
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are they in a fucking game or not
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Why don't they just ambush and steal from people? I mean they're basically bandits as is anyway.

I'm sure the average traveler has more useful and expensive stuff than a fucking shitflinging goblin.
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>>136377728
Nah, the game is in them.
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>>136377694
The only way they'll learn how to work as a group is by working as a group, training is too static.
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>>136377691
An arrow into the torso is basically a game-over.
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>>136377239
>work
kek
More like a hard day of fail.
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>>136376701
They were unwinding after the stress that accumulated from the fight.
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>>136377676
>It will be too hard to write for ghostwriters

Could you be less vague?
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>>136377728
They're not. The idiots saying they are aren't even watching the show as you can see by reading their replies.
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>>136377750
Getting an arrow anywhere in your body is basically a game over since it gimps you so hard. Unless you're armored which would mean the arrow only barely wounds you puncturing though.
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>>136377749
Anon. The group barely even knows each other's skills. They don't spar. They don't practice. They don't run competition against each other. They literally have 5 different allies to practice against and you're telling me they have none?

No.

You're wrong.

Get a fucking clue retard.
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>>136377780
Then clear it up if it's been revealed in the LN. Spoil me, I don't give a fuck.
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>>136377750
No it fucking isn't. Traditional bows have shit draw strength, especially since she's probably using the cheap novice stuff. Not to mention the goblin has survived multiple stab wounds and his head being caved in. A shallow arrow penetration into his torso isn't even going to slow him down.
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>>136377836
So you think practising against people who don't know what they're doing will help them against goblins who've been fighting for their entire lives?
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>>136377633
>Goblins don't have the equipment, the organization, or the training.
They actually do. Goblins in Grimgal have their own society and weapons (swords, spears, axes, crossbows) and some even have full plate armor. Also, goblins control the stronger (but much dumber) hobgoblins.
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>>136377780
I could care less about whether they're watching the show or not. I want it in fucking writing that they're not in the game from an LNfag.
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>>136377260
>But there is literally no reason to be in a small group.
There is also no reason for a big group when most people just hunt out small groups of monsters that aren't even a direct threat to the city.
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>>136375336
She's a shit hunter
>talking loudly while tracking prey
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>>136377820
I spoke of the torso because that's the easiest thing to aim for.
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>>136377771
90% of LN written by company ghostwriters. Some authors don't even exist. It's buisness. MMOtrash and haremshit are very popular
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>>136377858
>Traditional bows have shit draw strength
They are military tools you retard. That means they are built to kill stuff.
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>>136377860
They won't DIE in the process, that's for sure. Usually.
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>>136377849
>>136377888
Nothing ever implies in the LN that they're in the game.
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>>136377724
>They'd see or hear you and get more goblins,
>A group of 20 people slaughtering goblins is somehow significantly louder than 6-10 that the goblin army's spidy senses tingle.

Pretty sure the death screams of the goblin maxed out our volume factor.

>you have to have armour for all your line infantry
They all have armour anyway.

>They have all of those actually.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppels%C3%B6ldner
Tell me that highly trained front line infantry wielding a zweihaender or similar weapon describes the goblins we have seen so far.

Protip: it doesn't

>>136377864
I haven't read the novels, but so far I haven't seen evidence of the intelligence and intense discipline required for them to repel even a rudimentarily organized attack.

>>136377908
>There is also no reason for a big group
Safety? They're stressing the "we're fighting for our lives!" bullshit constantly, why you would ever enter an engagement that you weren't basically guaranteed to win is beyond me.

If we took all these useless scrubs and gave them basic shit to do like wield a pike and paired them with the group of people who actually know what they're doing, everything would go significantly better for everyone.
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>>136377860
You can't defend this shit. You can't miss from bow or magic in life and death situation. Kids are not retarded like you think.
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>>136377959
Their best option right now is killing lone goblins, if they do that they gain experience on how to fight goblins, experience on where their weak spots are (organs, arteries, etc.) and cash for food, if they train with each other they're wasting time and energy.
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>>136377952
It's also the cheapest shit they are give out to recruits. That shit is not going to be 360 no scoping anything nor is it going to penetrate its thick skin very deep. Because, surprise surprise, the ranger is still just a teenage girl who only had a week's worth of training and no other military training, she already has shit for strength in addition to her utter lack of experience.
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>>136378042
>You can't miss from bow or magic in life and death situation
Oh wow.
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>>136378028
>I haven't read the novels
What a surprise.
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>>136378049
>they train with each other they're wasting time and energy.

If you fuck up in training you get hurt

If you fuck up in a battle you, and potentially everyone around you dies. This is why training exists.
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>>136378049
> experience on where their weak spots are (organs, arteries, etc.)
Protip: Living things die if you attack them repeatedly.

> Their best option is bashing their head against a wall hoping to overcome it by sheer luck
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>>136378028
>paired them with the group of people who actually know what they're doing, everything would go significantly better for everyone.
The guys who know what they are doing have no interest with working together with scrubs.

Also theres also a real army. The Volunteers are just the faggots who are supposed to kill nearby scum and disposeable.
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>>136377952
She's using a hunting bow. A military style bow would either be as tall as she is, unless you're using it on horseback and even then she's not using a composite style bow with good draw.
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>>136377278
Well, there are elements taken from a roleplaying game. I suppose that the author wrote for readers that are familiar with such games.

* Skills, I mean, [SKILL]s: It's okay to describe special skills like lock picking or spells in such a way, but normally you don't say that you know the skill of [HIT], but basic combat training or knife training.

* I'm okay with the classes as titles for members of a specific guild, even if they are lifted from a game.
But they gave the newcomer too much freedom. Usually they would have been trained in the mercenary unit itself say in spear combat or in archery and assigned to existing groups.
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The question is: is the other group made up of Mary Sue's? You can look as big and bad as you want, but that doesn't mean you automatically know how to fight.
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>>136378049
They can learn all of those things by asking any single other hunter who has already dealt with goblins at any point of their life. Which is everyone. They might even learn a few clever tricks on handling goblins for free.
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>>136378086
Anon, it's like playing basketball to get better at playing baseball, sure it'll help somewhat but they're completely different things, goblins and humans are massively different in both fighting style and physiology.

>>136378089
>Protip: Living things die if you attack them repeatedly.
Yeah, that really worked well in episode 2, didn't it?
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>>136378074
You are moving the goalposts.
I agree that it's unrealistic to have a weak girl use a bow, but that has nothing to do with a bow's destructive power. If we accept that she uses a real bow, then so long as she manages to draw the sinew back and if she hits the target, the target IS going to feel it.
If it's a fantasy bow (that can be drawn even by little girls) it's a moot point because ranged combat is always gimped in fantasy unless you have an overleveled super-ranger.
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>give this generic looking series a shot
>it feels like a ragnarok online adventure
My fucking dick is diamonds, and my nostalgia is being played on.
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>>136378028
>I haven't read the novels, but so far I haven't seen evidence of the intelligence and intense discipline required for them to repel even a rudimentarily organized attack.
Because the goblins shown in the anime are mostly outcasts that were thrown out of the society for one reason or another.
>Safety? They're stressing the "we're fighting for our lives!" bullshit constantly, why you would ever enter an engagement that you weren't basically guaranteed to win is beyond me.
Because nobody really cares if they die or not. It's a reserve army and they get enough recruits that it doesn't matter if a few scrubs that can't do shit without others wiping their asses die. They haven't proven their usefulness and have no value, so nobody is going to waste people on helping them hunt goblins when goblin hunting isn't actually necessary for anything than training or gathering of certain (not particularly valuable) resources.
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>>136378089
I will tickle attack you to death
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>>136370591
Is that a goblin being stabbed? What is wrong with that? They are literally cannon fodder made to die or be slaves. Kill yourself you soft piece of shit.
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They should have all had spears.
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>>136378028
So now you're comparing the group of 5 16 year olds with hardly any training and shit equipment to a professional fighting force of highly equipped and trained grown men. Nice.
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>>136378176
>, goblins and humans are massively different in both fighting style and physiology.
Goblins swing swords.
Humans swing swords.
Goblins shoot bows.
Humans shoot bows.
Goblins hate getting stabbed in the face.
Humans hate getting stabbed in the face.

Finesse training for a favored enemy means nothing if you can't learn any one of these things.
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>>136378219

It's still killing a sentient and intelligent being that's fighting for its life.

For fucks sake the poor thing was alone, happy, getting some fresh water and they ambushed and murdered him full cold blooded because literally 0 reasons.
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>>136370591
>tl-dr : kids to stupid
>can't into murderhobo
>also can't into powergrind
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>>136378241
>professional fighting force of highly equipped and trained grown men.
>implying the landsknecht were any of those things.

Someone didn't pay attention in European history.
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>>136378166
Yeah, they could, I was thinking if they could've gotten little anatomy booklets on monsters when I was watching.
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>>136378265
>because literally 0 reasons.
0 provocation is not 0 reasons
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>>136378178
Except it does. The more strength you have, the more pull you can get, the more powerful and straighter the arrow will be when fired. If you want that OHKO heart piercing shot, then you will need a fuckhuge powerful draw and an ungodly aim, especially with that type of bow.
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>>136378265
>cold blood

Are you implying goblins are honorable creatures who follow some code of chivalry? They get whatever comes to them.
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>>136378245
I don't get what you're trying to say.
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>>136378265
I'd give it a rubik's cube to decide if I can kill it.
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>>136378348
That's why you use crossbows and massed fire.
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>>136378305
They were all of those things m8
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>>136378371
It's not a very difficult point to grasp, anon.

The technicalities of fighting between humans and goblins doesn't mean shit if you can't even grasp the basics. You don't learn how to write cursive before learning the alphabet. Same thing here.
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>>136378383
You need to be strong to use a crossbow too or good luck reloading.
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>>136370591
Imgine if the goblin was crying.
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>>136378429
So basically that bitch needs to start lifting weights.
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>>136378427
They know the basics though, they just have no experience. What to do in this terrain, what to do when the enemy does this, what to do when the enemy does that. You can't learn that unless you fight that specific type of enemy.
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>>136378348
>the more pull you can get, the more powerful and straighter the arrow will be when fired.
That's why I said "if she manages to draw the sinew back".
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>>136378427
>You don't learn how to write cursive before learning the alphabet
Actually you learn them at the same time
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>>136378429
> Crossbow
> Needing strength
Literally the whole point of a crossbow is that it allows full body strength to be used instead of one badly angled arm.

Any asshole who can pick up a bag of potatoes can load a crossbow. That was their entire value.
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>>136378493
Yeah, and girls don't have much body strength, especially Jap teenage girls.
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>>136378265
Goblins rapes and kill. They will kill even pregnant women and kids. They're not human and they don't have mercy like human beings.
>don't kill gob
>he come back to avenge his friends
>kill and rape retards while they sleep
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>>136378493
If you're a really tough guy you can reload a crossbow much faster though.
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>>136378493
Just look at her >>136375336. She looks weak as fuck.
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>>136378465
Wrong. Patently wrong. And fruitless because they very clearly don't know the basics.

>>136378522
Crossbows literally require less strength than a bow of the same power.
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>>136378493
That and the fact that they are easier to aim, easier to make ammunition for, easier to manufacture (compared to a proper bow) , and just in general better at everything except rate of fire and range.
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>>136378469
And that's the keyword here. If. And even then, how much can she draw back? And the follow up question, how much will over-exerting that pull is going to affect her aiming? She is not going to be hitting anything vital anytime soon other than luck. Hell, she is more likely to break her fingers if she tries anything crazy like that.
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>>136378123
>but normally you don't say that you know the skill of [HIT], but basic combat training or knife training.
Maybe that's the reason why you're jobless.
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>>136378539
Then give her a wind-up crossbow.
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>>136378561
Crossbows are a bitch to clean and expensive to buy in the first place.
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>>136378540
>And fruitless because they very clearly don't know the basics.
But they do? The difference is that the basics don't actually mean much when you can't use them in real combat. It's why just because you've spent months practicing martial arts doesn't necessarily mean it'll do you any good in a a street fight, where all rules are off and you have no idea when to use what moves because you don't have actual experience.
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>>136377964
so there's no real answer in the LN at this point and time

epic
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>>136378592
That's why I said a bow in combat and a girl using a bow in combat are two different subjects.
One is realistic. The other is not.
And that's why I accused you of moving the goalposts.
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>>136378606
Still needs strength to wind.
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>>136378623
> don't have actual experience
They literally trained first hand against a live tutor, and can get real experience against each other. They can also get that experience without DYING as well as learning the value of each group member at the same time.
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>>136378632
All LNs are trash, no exceptions.
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>>136378623
How long were they languishing without a single kill? Priest party leader should have laid in on huntah gal and DK a long time ago because they're the reason they keep fucking up. And send the mage to remedial school. The problem with Manato's group is its lack of leadership.
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>>136378637
Wait, I'm confused. What exactly are we arguing about here? I'm saying it's unrealistic for someone like her to be able to pierce the goblin's heart with her lack of strength and skill and having shitty equipment. I lost track of what you're arguing against.
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>>136378540
The basics mean nothing when you've learned them in static conditions, you'll be lost when you're in an actual fight. Try using Aikido in an actual fight, you'll get demolished.
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>>136378694
DDD
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>>136378493
Good luck drawing that shit without a cranequin if you are a skinny girl. Not to mention holding it on target and aiming.
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>>136376859
>polearms are way too gimmicky and need way too much training to be useful.

You wanna know how I can tell you know absolutely nothing about the topic and learned the bullshit you spout from anime/videogames/movies?
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>>136378671
Not nearly as much. If you can't wind up a crossbow, you'll never get laid at all.
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>>136378693
You do know that the whole problem was them being able to overcome their hesitation to kill a living breathing being, right?
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>>136378671
Protip: Crossbow "strength" is a meme. Crossbows were invented so that tween boys should shoot an 80 pound draw. They are literally loaded using the strongest muscles in your body and with full body symmetry.
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>>136378706
Don't you worry anon, you won't worry about the priest anytime soon :^)
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>>136378694
Spice&wolf
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>>136378747
Polearms are formation weapons, not group weapons.
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>>136378726
I was only ever arguing for the bow. Nothing else.
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>>136378768
No it isn't.
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>>136378730
Well it's a good fucking thing that all 6 party members learned a different way of fighting. That's literally 6 times the training to work with.
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I like how /a/ can become an 'expert' in any topic as long as there's an anime about it.
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>>136378693
They don't have the time for that, you dolt. They only received personal training for one week and have enough money to survive for two weeks. Sparring will do them no good when they have only days to learn where to find goblins, how to find them, get used to the idea of killing and start earning enough money to live in relative comfort for a few more days. They already spend morning to evening hunting and get exhausted from running around forests and mountains all day long. There is no time to train properly.

>>136378706
The problem with Manato is that he's a huge fucking softie and won't criticize his party members even if he has to. They can't receive any more training or tutoring without paying a lot of money to the guilds and hardly anyone experience gives enough of a shit about them to teach them anything.
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>People saying Titty mage got laid
Is this true?
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>>136378889
Why do you think they killed that goblin?
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How do goblins reproduce?
Are they mammals?
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>>136378889
Actually Manato is the one to get laid by her.
Into a grave
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>>136378706
Dont worry, MC will develop into a proper leader.
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>>136378808
Yes. It is.

Heavy Crossbows were invented to pierce heavy plate armor present in the late middle ages. Their design allowed a single person to load an enormous amount of power behind a single bolt, which was something a regular bow simply COULDN'T DO. Why was that? Because a regular high power bow was too fucking heavy for a regular person to use.

Heavy crossbows are only viable because it multiplied the user's strength far more efficiently than regular bows. The Crossbow being a weapon "for strong people" is a meme.
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>>136378606
How much do you think a fucking wind-up crossbow costs?
And if you're so sure that crossbows are one-shot kills, then you should suggest that Assgirl work together with the warrior(?) who has enough strengths to reload a normal crossbow.
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>>136378768
He probably meant the strength to pull the draw string back. The more advanced one uses a crank while traditional ones uses a hook on your belt and requires people to latch it onto the part that pulls the string back by standing up. It's actually pretty time consuming and commonly requires a shield in front to protect the crossbow user from enemy attack since he's a stationary target during this time.
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>>136378902
Wha?
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>>136378693
>train with human opponents
>learn how to fight against people your height
>learn how to fight against people with human anatomy
>learn how to fight on solid terrain
>fight with goblin
>90% of what you learned is useless and you wasted days training when you could've been earning money so you don't starve
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>>136378873
>The problem with Manato is that he's a huge fucking softie and won't criticize his party members even if he has to
Or maybe he thrives off the failure of his comrades, being only useful when they are injured. Manato is a leech and should be scorched off the party by Chef-kun.
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>>136378970
> Goblins
> Inhuman anatomy
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>>136378794
Please read up on things before arguing about them. Spears amazing formation weapons but also amazing weapons in any case, even a newbie with a spear can give a trained swordsman trouble, spears are greatly superior to most weapons in most cases (especially when plate armour is not involved), hence why they were the most used weapon throughout history.

The one drawback is that they aren't as handy to carry as a mace, axe, or sword, hence the popularity of swords as sidearms in town for protection. None of this is an issue if you are going out with a group with the knowledge that you will encounter enemies.
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>>136378964
Jealousy is not pretty.
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>>136378970
They can't even hold and use their fucking weapons properly.
They should at least train on that for starters.
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>>136378694
>I read all LN's in existence and my opinion is unbiased
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>>136378946
>>136378768
Theres actually asian crossbows and european crossbows.

The asian variant was made rather early with the purpose of having untrained people engaging in ranged combat.
The european variant was made in the late medievals to pierce plate.
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>>136378993
demi-human to be more exact
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Do any of the party members become couples in this or are they all strictly comrades?
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>>136378807
And I was arguing the bow is shit when placed into the hands of a teenage girl with minimal experience. No idea how we got into an argument considering our points.
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>>136378970
>what is footwork
>what is edge alignment
>what is general mental training
>what is muscle memory
>what is a fucktonne of other things that don't depend on your opponent

Not to mention goblins are just extremely short humans as far as anatomy is concerned, think of fighting an angry manlet.
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>>136379013
They will get better with it, and are doing a rather good job for being absolutely normal 21st century people who only had one month training.
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>>136378999
>spear
>polearm
no

>even a newbie with a spear can give a trained swordsman trouble
holy fuck this is so wrong
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>>136379013
I think a 6 in 1 fight is training enough.
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>Manato BTFO
>Cute girl comes into the party instead
And nothing of value was lost.
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>>136378937
Heh, a thief as a leader, you don't see that often.
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>>136379074
An angry manlet who by itself had to survive in the wilds by stabbing wild animals to death, probably rob humans, and defend themse