Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1381

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Unfortunately, these past few years, you can work hard, try to be as successful as possible, follow the rules, and President Barack Obama will do everything he can to stand in your way.

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xth for not doing it drunk
always sober, awake and alert

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だいかんぱ
はるまちわびし
ひかんばな

imouto

Don't let HER win, anon.

>>136336901
who?

Can anyone recommend LNs from that huge Mega folder that was uploaded a few months ago? I downloaded the whole (2GB) thing and there's enough books to last me a lifetime yet I don't know what to start with besides the obvious ones (anime adapted).

>>136332790
I think they mean https://vndb.org/v3789

>>136336845
how long did it take you to read english, imouto?
Id ask that in japanese but i'd sound like chaika, probably..

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庇髪

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>>136337691
nihon strikes back

What exactly is the Core 2k/6k Tae Kim Vocabulary deck?

>>136337880
It's the same as Core 2k/6k except it's endorsed by Tae Kim.

Livin' lovin' laughin' life.

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Remember that wanikani is the key to success. Wanikani-chan is by your side!

>>136338728
Is the Wanikani deck helpful?

>>136339072
It works better if you use the website.

I have over 700 reviews after putting off Japanese for a while but I'm trying to get back into it. Hopefully if I can get at least a little bit proficient at it I won't lose motivation so easily...

>>136339167
You left anki for a while and came back to fewer reviews than I do on a daily basis, lol. You fucking pussy.

>>136339203
Are you sure you're learning Japanese or just memorizing words? I really hate doing anki so I never used to do more than 40 new cards per day.

>>136339233
You can't learn Japanese without anki.

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>>136339256

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Where do the dictionaries find these examples...

How important is being able to write Japanese in person?

It doesn't seem to be something that develops naturally by just doing the Core deck. Do you have to spend extra time working at it?

>>136339256
You can still learn it without doing 700 reviews a day.

>>136339683
in 10 years, perhaps.

Do I just need to read more to understand the difference between using verb stems and using te-form?

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英語の「un-」は：
>無重要
>不重要
>非重要
>重要じゃない/ではありません
どれが正しい？

>もっと読んで
死ね

>>136339709
Nope, a couple of years should have you reading shit just fine with a dictionary. A couple more should have you being able to read and listen to pretty much anything you want mostly unassisted. Source, somebody who's actually been doing anki at a very leisurely pace (20 new cards a day is my limit, 0 new cards is a common occurrence) for 3 years and can read/listen to most things just fine, relying less and less on the dictionary each day.

>>136339579
>How important is being able to write Japanese in person?
Depends. Do you plan on working/living in Japan? Then it's probably going to be a pretty useful, if not essential skill. Do you plan only on using the language to understand Japanese media and occasionally type shit? Then it's slightly beneficial at best, but mostly useless.

>Do you have to spend extra time working at it?
Yes. A little bit of time if you want to be able to write the strokes in the correct order, and a lot time if you want to be able to write characters that don't look like shit.

>>136339898
You give me hope.

How much vocab did you have before trying to read first?

>>136339880
>無重要
>不重要
>非重要
None of these are words.

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I can't do it guys. Trying to memorize over 50 unknown characters is too hard for me. Even English only have 26 alphabets.

>>136340044
It's easy if you believe it's easy, senpai.

>>136340032
>非現実的

>>136340003
Did you learn the stroke order while learning new vocab/kanji, or is it better to go back and do it later?

It's been taking me hours just to memorize how to write 25 cards a day, even if I get their meaning and pronunciation within minutes.

>>136340196
stroke order is useless

>>136340227
Is writing entirely useless as well?

>>136340031
Short answer, I estimate it was a little bit over 1k, maybe as much as 1.5k

Long answer, I had my own deck where cards would have a kanji in the front while the back would have its meaning (which I'd try to write as succinctly as possible based on different sources and looking at several words which contained said kanji). I'd also put in the back a handful of example words, though I'd only really remember one or two of them in practice, three at most. I had gone through about something around 600 kanji when I started reading, so that amounts to something between 600 and 1800 words.

>>136340268
nah

>>136340196
>It's been taking me hours just to memorize how to write 25 cards a day, even if I get their meaning and pronunciation within minutes.

Is this the power of not doing RTK?

>>136340196
>Did you learn the stroke order while learning new vocab/kanji
I did, though most people don't apparently. Personally, I just wanted to learn the whole thing right, and I enjoyed it, but I can't really argue against the people who say you don't need to know how to write in order to read. The best I can say is that knowing how to write will help you a lot when trying to understand handwritten kanji, and it helps remembering the kanji too. At least it did for me. If I didn't learn to write them it would probably take me much longer to figure out how to look at a kanji properly.

>It's been taking me hours just to memorize how to write 25 cards a day, even if I get their meaning and pronunciation within minutes.
Don't learn kanji pronunciations individually if that's what you're doing. That's retarded levels of inefficiency. Learn their pronunciation only as you learn words which contain them.

And finally, if you're going to practice writing then learning stroke order is a must. There's no point in learning do to something wrong only to correct it later.

>>136340044
>English only have 26 alphabets.
It's because you're dumb like this that you fail.

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>>136336935

Did the guy whose mother died kill himself yet?

>>136340533
>>136340602
ぞい子を強姦できないなら、デキナイちゃんもいいと思う。

>>136340518
Do you have your Anki setup to help review writing the kanji?

Mine displays the English meaning first, then I write the characters, which might be why it's taking so long.

>>136339880

>どれが正しい

全部よ

Japanese is all about context so you should know that feel.

>>136340756
No, I did pretty much what you described. anki and writing practice separately. I did have a habit of writing the strokes on the air with my finger as I did anki, just make sure I remembered the order.

>>136340742
デキナイちゃんは僕達の女神だぞ。

>>136340843
How did you do your writing practice then?

I'll definitely modify my study with what you've said in mind, though.

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>You will never have genki textbook adventures

>>136339876
You can read more of DOJG for one. There's a section on the masu-stem that lists differences with the te-form.

>>136340881
祀るとかけてレイプと解く。その心は女神！

>>136340542
>he doesn't know about the secret English alphabets

俺、鳥になりたいなぁ... でも、ヤリチンになれたらそれも結構ですね。

>>136340952
I just took a piece of paper and wrote kanji I knew whenever I had time. I didn't really have a method. At most I'd take a list of kanji I knew and try to do all of them, but I only did that every now and then.

Like I said, learning the stroke order is not really that time consuming or difficult. Having good handwriting is what's hard.

>>136341204
キモい

仕方がある。

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>>136341281
なぜ？みんな、ヤリチンかヤリマンで気持ちいい人生を過ごしたいでしょう？

Hey guys, I've been following the Japanese Learner Anki Package's instructions for a couple weeks now, and am just finishing up with Japanese the Manga Way.pdf. I've been reading and taking notes, about 4 chapters per day, but haven't been reviewing old chapters daily. Should I be doing that, or is it okay to just let the grammar/verb forms sink in gradually? It looks like there are 3-4 more grammar sets, do they re-teach all the JTMW stuff, or do I need to know JTMW forwards and backwards before moving on?

>>136341406
最低
数独をおすすめします

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>>136341204
鳥とヤリチンは一体どこに関係ですか？

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>>136341476
やりとり？

>>136341476
自由でしょう？

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嫁と直に会話することができれば、日本語で彼女にどんなことを言うの？

For how long has been DJTs running?

>>136341672
おい、飯はまだか？
ったく、セックスにしか使えないやつだからな

>>136341672
嫁って、「ワイフ」？それなら：
>やらないか？

>>136336699
So I got a Kindle as a present. How do I put manga on it?

>>136341732

Can't you see the OP? 1381 cycles has this system repeated itserf.

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>>136341738
死ね、アホ

>>136341779
Oh, you right. Damn, that's like 4 years. Who has been here since day 1?

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Why are there so many blogs about why you shouldn't learn Japanese. People gave up, got mad, and want you to give up too?

>>136342267
Pretty much, yeah.

>>136342267
Probably yeah

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>>136342267
「普通の日本人の会話とアニメキャラの会話は全然違うですから、日本語を学ぶことが役に立たないよ」のミームのせいだと思う。

>>136341742
嫁はワイフではなく。

>>136342532
嫁＝日本
ワイフ＝西洋

>>136342267
>why you shouldn't learn Japanese
Examples?

>>136342267
Bitter losers.

>>136342585
http://www.japantoday.com/category/opinions/view/why-you-shouldnt-learn-japanese

>>136342564
え？知らなかった。

ありがとう

>>136342585
>Japanese can Make you Less Popular
>Japan Isn’t all That
>Studying Japanese costs money and you will get nothing in return
>Knowing Japanese is like having a scarlet kanji engraved into your forehead
Just some examples from a few blogs

>>136342468
ちょっと気を付ければ、「全く役に立たない」ということは無いよね。

What's your DJT secret?

I'm currently in love with a 3D girl right now, I can feel like she's my other half and I have never felt something like this before. I'm gonna confess my love if ever I have a chance and see how it goes.

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>>136342267
Think of it from a normies perspective and it makes sense. Heck, it makes sense to me. Approach it from two different angles.
Motivation - why learn Japanese? For you, VNs, anime, manga, maybe 2ch and lns, in short a FUCK TON of great Japanese media. For normies? They don't know about ANY of that, except maybe anime to some degree, and anime is not worth learning a language for for many. A normies motivation is always shallow and thin, I've seen it over and over on language learning websites. They want to learn it because their family has a history with it. They want to learn it because they're interested in visiting one day. And so on and so on. Japanese is way too hard for such a flimsy motivation to survive.
Usefulness - where to use Japanese? Like last time, you can use Japanese for VNs, anime, manga, etc etc. It's probably already a big part of your life so it's useful to learn it. Where would a normie use it? The only answer is in Japanese itself, talking to natives. Last poster said Japanese not being useful is a meme, but for normies I think it's just plain true. Think of it this way - assume you knew Chinese or German or Korean. How useful would it be? What would you use it for? Honestly, probably nothing. Likewise, a normie would do nothing with Japanese, and therefore the huge time investment isn't worth it.

>>136342670
>Studying Japanese costs money

>>136342754

>what is opportunity cost

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>>136342646
Why do you think a lot of shitty JRPGs have shitty accessories for the girls with "俺の嫁" written on them?

>>136342721
I swear to god I'll punch you if it's that Chinese girl again.

>>136342670
Anon you just quoted a parody article.
Read the end
>This is a parody version
>Obviously I completely disagree with everything in the article.

>>136342795
I quoted this one too
http://japaneseruleof7.com/why-you-shouldnt-learn-japanese/

>>136342624
>Japanese is only useful in Japan

Japan is the second biggest export destination here. Pretty useful to know the language then.

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Would you use duolingo for japanese if it had the language?

>>136342887
No, because it's a terrible service aimed at very stupid people who want to speak dull romance languages they could learn in a week.

>>136342887
It is worse than anki so no.

>>136342850
Citing Japan's economic power is useless, every normalfag will go full "hurr durr china and you should learn chinese instead"

>>136342791
I never played a single JRPG

>>136342969
自殺しろ

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You've been doing anki for awhile and have finished Tae Kim. You don't have any interest in manga so you go straight towards nyaa to get a fresh new VN. What do you pick to read and why?
1 - A moderately rated moege or nukige.
2 - A well-regarded plotge or chuunige.

>>136342950
I hate it, but I know you're right. I was even getting told to learn Chinese when doing German classes in high school. People have a weird fetish for that place.

https://youtu.be/TQdwnD1Alsc?t=11m24s

gangster repression, japanese style

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>>136342969
It is never too late anon

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>>136343020
酷い。

いじめはだめ

>>136343088
Explanation for fetishes of various languages
Chinese - The media scare reports about the Chinese economy taking over the US's a fuckton
Russia - The media scare reports about Russia being a BIG BAD that's fighting against the US head on.
Japan - Is our ally so scare reporting is non-existence, people don't understand their importance.

>>136343149
I can see why Chinese makes some sense, but learning Russian always throws me. It's more difficult than Romance languages, the country is cold and poor, and there's not much you can do with it employment wise short of working for the CIA.

>>136342721
Why did you call it a DJT secret? How is that related to DJT? That's just your personal life. Fuck off and preferably kill yourself while you're at it.

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>>136343142
>酷い
それが彼女の言った言葉だよ。

>>136343308
You can read a bunch of famous writers. It also sounds awesome.

>>136343367
>It also sounds awesome
As a native romance speaker, fuck you nigger, english is already difficult enough to pronounce

>>136343367
I guess so. The only people I knew who tried it had a Soviet fetish, so maybe I'm biased against it.

>>136343149
This. Japan is actually America's greatest ally if they would stop sucking Israel's cock, and Japan is also the technological leader of the world.

How do I improve my English? I'm a filthy ESL, I don't have any problem in reading but I'm not satisfied with my production skills. I want to be good enough and write colorful sentences and stuff.

>>136343320
ばれた

女性です。

>>136343522
>>>/int/
>>>/out/

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>>136343545
昔のフランス女性のヤリマンか？
おっぱいを見せてくれ、さもないと出て行け

>>136343428
Hey, I'm a romance speaker too. Don't blame me for your lack of passions.

>>136343522
Read famous English writers and mimic them.

>>136343522
English native hear. Those who are capable of speaking flowery sentences are always those who read a lot. You need the vocabulary and sense of timing, as well as exposure to "literary" grammar. Hit the books, anon.

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>>136343747
>English native hear
>hear
Whoops

>>136343693
>>136343747

Will it naturally comes to me if I read a lot of books?

>>136343747
>English native hear

ESL get out REEEEEE

>>136343797
>naturally
A bit, but you also have to make an effort to mimic it. Learn about English poetry too.

I'm talking out of my ass here, by the way.

>>136343797
You will have to consume a lot of Compelling Content.

>>136343797
Yes. I actually notice that when I read a ton of books my speaking becomes more eloquently, and when I stop the ability fades. It's gotten worse since I started learning Japanese, even, because 4chan is my only real exposure to written English, all my reading time is spent on reading Japanese.

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>>136343609
>おっぱいを見せてくれ

できません。

ぺちゃぱいだから ;_;

>>136343853
おっぱい refers to any breasts even small you know

>>136343849
>>136343837

Is there an specific genre of books that I need to read? Only mystery books piques my interest and I think I'll improve my English more if I read fantasy or something.

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>>136343853
汚い男の娘をやめてくれ、スカートを着ても女の子にならないよ。

>>136343849
>when I stop the ability fades
I feel so disappointed in myself every time I speak or write nowadays, because I know I used to be able to do better.

>>136343975
Probably A song of ... is easy to read, that's what plebs read.

>>136343975
Don't read latter-era Agatha Christie, she got Alzheimers and her writing suffered a lot from that. Mystery books are actually the normie garbage of the literary world, so you've got bad luck having it as your favourite. Fantasy would doubtlessly improve your English more than anything else, that's where all the purple prose is - Book of the New Sun, Mazalan Book of the Fallan, stuff like that. Of course, besides Fantasy and Mystery in the first place, you'd benefit a lot from reading just plain essays.Stuff like:
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0300011h.html#part39
Good luck working up the motivation to read those though.

>>136343877
いいえぁぁぁぁ

死ね変態野郎

>>136343975
Also read poe http://poestories.com/read/houseofusher

>>136343995
でもチンポを持ってませんよ。。。

>>136343045
Chuunige, probably. Then can't figure out how to install it because everything shows up as question marks.

>>136344253
You need to be in Japanese Locale

>>136344269
So much for using VNs, I guess. But thanks for the explanation. I'll stick to other reading resources.

>>136344330
Switching to Japanese locale takes less than a minute, the fuck is wrong with you.

>>136344330
Japanese locale has 0 impact on any program, it just enables windows to use SHIFT-JIS on non-Unicode programs like Japanese ones. At worse \ will be replaced with yen symbols in CMD.

>>136344434
I'm computer illiterate.
I thought I read somewhere that it messes with other things, but if it is such a quick process then I guess it doesn't matter to switch back and forth, even if it does.

>>136344483
>switch back and forth

Literally why. But whatever you're comfortable in anon.

>>136344483
There are exceedingly rare occasions where it will mess with things.
1 - The installer for certain programs may be in Japanese
2 - The language for certain programs may become Japanese
However both of those are very unlikely and have never happened to me in 4 years of Japanese locale. And even if they did you could quickly switch back.

>>136344483
It requires a reboot so switching back and forth is not really viable, better switch and stay on it, it doesn't fuck up anything unless you need to use programs in some other bullshit language.

>>136344434
It also fucks up stuff like diacritics.

>>136342791
>my waifu
I thought that was a Western meme.

>>136344695
"waifu" as a word is western meme, the concept of referring to an anime female character that you like by an autistic term is a jap concept

>>136344695
They're more like independent occurrences of the same inevitable phenomenon, I think.

>>136342969
are you 7 years old?

>>136343367
also, you can always find a drunk girl for you, every saturday morning in any alley

>>136344788
It's really not that weird, the only JRPG I've ever played was hyperdimensional neptunia a couple months back and I didn't play it much

Not counting shit like pokemon since those aren't really JRPGs

>>136344897
Pokemon is a JRPG

>>136344897
we all agree pokemon is gay shit, but it's still an jrgp

>>136344929
I'd say it's more like an RPG that's made in Japan, when I think of JRPG are characterised by the whole running dungeons grinding for gear kinda system

>>136344978
Fucked that up pretty bad

>>136344978
Well your personal definition doesn't change reality

>>136344897
That's a really shit choice for the only JRPG to play, I'm so sorry.

我輩は大和でござる

>>136345485
Where do I look for good JRPGs? I haven't really played any either aside from Dark Cloud (one of my favorite games as a kid) and I guess Final Fantasy. Preferably something with cute anime girls because I'm shallow and want something cute to look at along with good gameplay/story.

Djt, I got a question.

I'm done with Hiragana, almost done with katakana. Want to start on Kanji soon since schools starting back up.

What's the recommended daily card limit you all would suggest?

Also, any other books I should read besides Genki? Any recommended material/tools?

Ty

>>136345732
Read the guide.

>>136345732
10 is good for a pretty low pace
20 is good for a normal pace
30 is good for a fast pace

>>136345732
You should do no more than 10 cards a day, otherwise you will burn out. I'd personally recommend doing 5. There's no rush.

What's the Japanese for sex? I'm not referring to the gender, I'm referring to the thing where a boy put his penOO in a girl's vagOO.

>>136345955
交尾

>>136345937
Ignore the troll.

>>136345955
Sex

>>136345708
Depends of what you like, if I have to narrow the choice down to games with cute girls then
アトリエ for comfy atmosphere and strict time management
アルトネリコ for one of the most interesting settings and amazing soundtrack
世界樹の迷宮 for pure hard as balls gameplay and customization

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君の見解では今季の最悪な少女は誰ですか？

私は彼女が画像に関係だと思います。

>tfw not born as native english/japanese speaking person

why even live

>>136346442
You shouldn't live. You belong in a concentration camp.

>>136346442
>wanting to be related with the japs in any way
>>>/gaia/
>>>/mal/

>>136346442
黄色いサルｗｗｗｗｗｗ

>>136346229
あんたの下手くそ日本語が俺に癌を引き起こした

Word of the day: 冗句

冗談といえば冗句でしょう、冗談だけに

>>136346816
こんばんはグーグル翻訳機

>>136346878
あんたよりはマシだけどな

https://youtu.be/c--vNLJ2kSg?t=582
Japanese leys plays are so easy it's almost like I'm listening to English

Is verb stem + だし the same as dictionary form + ことだし?

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>>136346951

>>136346998
Depends. If the stem is also a noun then it could be. It's also possible that what you're seeing is verb stem + 出し, which is the stem of verb stem + だす.

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>>136346951
>あんたよりはマシ

>>136347106
That's correct retard, but sure, take the role of the blind mocking the blind if that helps your pathetic ego.

>>136347147
Hey, I just greentexted, I didn't say it was wrong.

>>136347080
Ah. In this context it's definitely 出し. Why didn't I think of that. Thanks.

>>136341416
It's not at all beneficial to be compulsively anal about perfecting textbook grammar lessons because the patterns aren't just something you can consciously remember and apply. Even the more important stuff is more complicated than you think it is and will take time and genuinely experiencing the language to actually understand the way the language works. This isn't a bad thing, though. It actually means that taking the dry, textbook approach isn't what's going to help you the most. It means that what helps you the most is the actually enjoyable experience of interacting with native content that you find interesting.

Can you see how much time you've totally spent in Anki?

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>>136347388
>アンキ
そんな奴は本当に存在してるんだな

>>136347388
Yeah
>click graph
>go to bottom
>select "collection" and "all time"
>look for the stat that says total hours spent

>>136347455

How do you study Japanese then you faggot.

>>136347667
10,000 hours of anime

>>136347703
I'm not even like a thousand hours in though...

>>136347739
Well then hop to it buttercup

北地区在住の十七歳女性とありますが、
かのような人生経験が浅い少女に、
最優秀に足る素晴らしい作品が生み出せるものでしょうか？

Am I right in thinking that the かのような thing is saying that she's had a short lifespan like a mosquito?

Also what exactly is the でしょうか implying here? I'd imagine she's saying that it's unlikely such a young girl could produce that work based on the tone of everything else but the でしょうか doesn't really seem to fit in with that idk

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>finishing my first long manga series in japanese

I feel empty, all that effort and time and now it's over.

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>>136347914
>finishing my first long comic book series in English
>I feel empty, all that effort and time and now it's over
Do you see the stupidity of these claims you gay faggot?

I've been wondering this for a while now. What is Mayushii singing while climbing up the stairs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cylyy3INIGs
Here is a video

>>136347846
>Am I right in thinking that the かのような thing is saying that she's had a short lifespan like a mosquito?
I suppose it's using か, the secret 5th member of the こそあど group.
このような
そのような
あのような
どのような
かのような

>>136348038
Yeah, actually. I'd totally sympathize with a foreigner finishing his first novel in english.

We should all try to be more apprehensive of each other's feelings and what they mean to the individual rather than one up one another in vain pursuits of ego.

What does もらえりや mean in
一回くらい,笑ってもらえりや幸いだ?

>>136348130
Really? So what is that implying? Is it just referring back to the first line?

>>136348058
ジューシーから揚げナムバーワン

>>136348058
ジューシー唐揚げナンバ１
ワン

>>136347846
>I'd imagine she's saying that it's unlikely such a young girl could produce that work based on the tone of everything else but the でしょうか doesn't really seem to fit in with that idk

How doesn't it? It's basically "I wonder".

>>136348038
What's stupid about that?

>doing my anki reps
>this plays

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27a5dVqjsc

>>136348371
Mmm yeah true, I was seeing it in more like an affirmative way for some reason, as opposed to a questioning kinda way

>>136348192
えれば is often slurred to something with ゃ.

言わなければ→言わなきゃ
もらえれば→もらえりゃ

Are you sure that や isn't supposed to be a ゃ?

>>136348510
>か？
>affirmative, not questioning
How?

>>136340044
think of all the memes you have memorized before and can recall in a seconds notice. Swap memes for kanji.

>>136348565
No, it can be that. I'm just going through a raw light novel to edit some subtitles and I just draw the kanji in google translator.

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Does anyone know how to fix this?

Chiitrans displays the text normally, but it's displayed as these weird characters inside of the VN. My system locale is set to Japanese, so I'm not sure what's causing it.

Is it because I'm on windows 10? I heard that some VNs have issues with windows 10 but this is the first time that I'm encountering any problems.

>>136348607
Idk I guess my brain just ignored the fact か was even there and treated it like でしょう maybe

Hopefully it'll stop doing that now

>>136348702
Well fuck off then, this isn't a translation service.

>>136348741
That's secret Japanese, have you not been learning that too?

できないね

>take fish oil and blaze through my reviews

so this is the power.... of a placebo

>>136347106
Are those a qt girl's hands?

>>136348741
>He can't read norse runes

>>136348758
I'm asking for a phrase I can't figure out after searching for it, not even one whole sentence. Also you don't need to answer.

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>>136340044
>over 50

>お風呂に入る
>/djt/に糞レスし続ける
全然選べない

>>136348897
風呂から糞レスしてみようか

>>136348038
>accurately read the picture as kokujin tensai without paying any attention
>the only time i recall seeing 'tensai' is in the akagi title
>don't even know the second kanji by itself

w3w

Read this
稀有
>>136348741
The only thing I can think of, other than lolw10, is that
1 - it is using font that you don't have installed
2 - it's DRM that fucks up text if your date isn't in Japanese format and other such shit
I have 0 idea though so dont take my word for this stuff

>usually procrastinate on reps for hours
>close browser this time
>finish in 30 minutes
jesus it's so effective

>ヶ and ケ

WH
Y

>>136348316
Thanks

>>136348310
You were close too

>>136349296
Why not?

This chiitrans lite program is pretty good. I used to use ITH but it doesn't work with windows 10. I tried out visual novel reader but it was complete shit UI and buggy as fuck. Chiitrans lite is simple and actually allows you to copy & paste text as well.

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>>136349055
>don't even know the second kanji by itself
>才
japs apparently used in substitution of 歳 sometimes

>>136349296
oh shit I just thought it was the same kana but smaller like ゅ

>>136349579
This artist is god tier, too bad it's too vanilla for me now

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>>136349579
>なよっとした
Holy fucking shit, did anyone else google that? This was the top result
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q11112914216
Read the second answer, holy shit it's scathing
>oxymoron_1989さんは外国人ですか？
>質問する前に辞書を引いて下さい。
>我々は検索代行屋ではありませんし、自分で調べないと言葉や語学は身につきませんよ。
And he just goes on and rips his grammar apart Jesus this is my worst nightmare

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Awwwwh shiiieett

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>>136348637
can do

/salute

>>136349771
>He's fast!

>>136339256
>People still falling for the Anki memes
Japs learn fine without it

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>>136349745
No.

>>136349977
I don't get what you were going for with this post

>>136349956
>learn fine
>spend 15 years to get to the level of a 15 year old native

>>136349745
But that's a great answer.
Not only he answered his question, he also gave him some advice on his manners, like a strict dad I always needed and never had.

>>136349745
マキちゃんの画像を見る時、気持ち悪くなる人が私だけですか？

>>136349579
Oh, makes a lot of sense and easy to remember. Thank you

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I'm confuzzled

>会話しろ
is translated as
>STOP IT
on the bottom right panel

But isn't that the exact opposite?
しろ ＝ imperative of する, how could that possible mean "stop talking" ?

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道路脇に１ミリ雪が積もりました
きろくてきな積雪量だよ。おにいちゃん

>>136348741
Is it really set in Japanese? There's one place in W10 where you "change" the locale but really doesn't do anything for desktop programs.
1. Win+X and select Control Panel from the menu
2. Select "Change date, time or number formats"
3. Go to the "Administrative" tab and set the locale in Japanese

>>136349745
EVISCERATED!
ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED!

HE JUST SODOMIZED THAT YOUNG MAN

I wonder if I jerk off before I do reps if I'll have higher retention due to being more focused.

I finished with reps and everything by 10 AM and have been lying around doing nothing since then. Japanese learning has become the driving focus in my life, without it I don't have much.

>>136350340
*見た時

直してあげたわ

GOD DAMN JAPS TALK TOO FUCKING FAST

I swear understanding spoken jap is based so much on the context

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>>136350551
>わ
くそオカマ死ね

>>136350587
女じゃないですか

>>136350587
同性愛ってどこが悪いなの？

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>>136350670
全部よ

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>>136350127
you think it would take the average japanese speaker less than 15 years to reach the level of an average 15 year old japanese speaker if they improved their learning methods?

>>136350451
You are probably reading the raw and looking up a translation after every page to see if you understood everything?

>>136350546
Why don't you read, then?

>>136337880
It uses the vocabulary found in Tae Kim's Grammar Guide in order and uses the Core 2k/6k deck as a base for it. In a nutshell it is, from memory, Core 2k/6k ordered to match the words which appear in Tae Kim's Grammar Guide, with the words which don't appear, removed. Might be a little off base here but I think that is more or less what it is. CoR-kun put it together a while ago as the result of a discussion about a vocab deck for TK.

>>136350718
空に見ている妖精がいるとでも思っているの？ww

>>136350778
Yeah

>>136339154
1. No it's doesn't; using the content in Anki takes advantage of a superior SRS system.
2. Using the website means paying for it, which is stupidly overpriced for the content.

People are better off buying Genki 1&2, the DoBJG, a learners Japanese dictionary, and Remember the Kanji 1&3, and they'd still have money left over for something which covers far more content a systematic manner in a similar vein as WK, only with more bang for your buck. That the previously mentioned items can be cheaper than WK illustrates how disgustingly overpriced the web-driven, locked-in program is.

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>>136345937
>5 cards a day

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kyo mo ichinichi gambareeeh zoi

>>136350998
>Genki

The biggest meme of them all.

>>136350775
Yes, you see it in practice: there are Japanese students reading, writing, speaking and comprehending at a level well above millions of other Japanese their age. This happens in every country and goes to show how powerful learning methods can be.

>>136350878
>彼はキリスト教徒ではない
>彼は同性愛や他の汚い事が嫌いじゃない
地獄を楽しみます

>>136351109
Yet it is still better than wanikani.
Sad, isn't it?

>>136351145
Genki is not better than wanikani, you should probably kill yourself if you believe this.

>>136351173
They're completely different things

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>>136350928
Dont rely to much on that, you will see alot of stuff that is wrong translated.

>>136350775
Point is natives learn their language slowly. They do it inefficiently because they don't care about learning quickly. I imagine most people here do not want to spend 20 years learning Japanese.

>>136351136
>命令形がわからない

笑

>地獄

そんなとこないわよ

>>136338087
>>136350840
Although I know that much of what and how we learn is dependent on the individual learner and their learning styles, would the 2k/6k or 2k/6k Tae Kim vocab decks be worth using over the 0k/10k deck, or is the 10k deck a safer bet on average?

>>136351252
>命令形がわからない
あれは正しいですけど、君の餌は低質よ。

>>136351340
ガイドを読んでくれ

>>136334800
This is fine for the regular game, but do you fight the 怪獣 as well? Those fights are awesome and cool as hell and so I want my party to be as optimised as possible going into the boss fights. I'm pretty sure overlevelling one character will make those fights really hard since everyone else will just die, right?

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>躊躇
>躊躇う
>in the same book
>in the same chapter
Fuck

>>136351429
Those are ugly as shit kanji desu

>>136351359
「低質」ってなーに？あんた、日本語下手じゃん

>>136351460
At least that makes them easily recognisable

>>136351487
もっと読んでください

>>136351545
それはこっちの台詞わね

>>136351117
Those aren't average japanese speakers then are they?

Are there any good grammar decks for Anki? Not vocab per-say, but one that covers the basics/advanced grammar of Japanese?

>>136351396
I fight them for completion, but to be honest I haven't given much importance to trying to make it challenging. It's either "completely impossible, I'll come back later" or "okay, I'm strong enough to beat him without risk of wasting items". So far I've yet to beat the desert whirlwind one. Not even sure I'd approach that battle without leveling up more.

>>136352157
DoGJ deck in CoR is great. Don't do all 3 volumes at once, though, the difference between them is pretty steep.

>>136352208
Thanks! So just complete each volume at a time, 1>2>3?

>>136352208
Might you have a link? I looked in both the core sections and the entire japanese set and I can't seem to find it. Sorry!

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>病院
>美容院

>>136352323
Yeah, just get some reading practice in between.

>>136352405
You sure you're looking in CoR? In 教本 section under 暗記.

>>136352463
I can never tell if you people are legit or not but it pisses me off either way

>>136352524

>byouin ni itta
>oh fuck you went to the hospital?
>no silly I got my hair done

They're not identical but they're similar enough it's annoying.

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>>136352469
>日本人はこんなことを本当に信じる
ワロタ

>>136352555
>They're not identical but they're similar enough it's annoying.
>byouin
>biyouin

>>136352463
>びょう
>びよう

>>136352603
>>136352607

I am well aware.

>>136352507
Yeah, entered all different search terms and even tried outside of the anki website. Only hit I'm getting is the "Tae Kim's Grammar Guide with Sentence Diagrams." Sorry to be a bother m8!

What is this nigger saying?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0iH23EGNLDL

I can't handle nigger-speak.
He's obviously saying something to the extent of "Step on the gas", but I'm trying to transcribe to Japanese.
Something like

ガスかくさっとれ
which is equivalent to monkey-speak to me because it makes no damn sense

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>>136349745
>自分で調べないと言葉や語学は身につきませんよ。
The single most valuable piece of advice for newcomers. Japanese is a high-context language, and if your first language is a low-context one such as English, the mental transition is going to make you feel utterly retarded at times.

Gee whiz, what a nice guy!

>>136352507
Unless it's the Japanese core 2000 step 1-10? Of not then idk

>>136352555
>This bridge feels unstable
>Really? You think so? I think it feels like it could fall over any second now
>that's what I just said you fucking faggot

>tfw un- and in- makes me confuse the words and I don't even realize they're there

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>>136352716
contextの高い低いってどういうことなの

>>136352783

>I wonder if context is tall or short?

I can't learn Japanese.

>>136352676
sounds like やつか、くそったれ

context would help

>>136352651
It's on on anki website, it's in CoR.
Read the OP.

I'm not going to be able to study for a couple months at all. Am I going to forget everything?

>>136352816
imouto here is too dumb to understand what he means by high and low context languages

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>>136352716
>tfw my shitty language makes everything harder
Thanks Brits.

>>136352841
Yes.

>>136352832

Ah! Got it, sorry about that! Thanks for the help.

>>136352865

Oh, it makes a lot more sense now, thanks.

>>136352875
Your good (or semi good if you are English) language is making everything harder*

>>136352177
That fight was hilarious, I thought it would be fine coming out of the other local boss fights and then everyone just died. I'm pretty sure it's impossible to do at the stage you find it, which annoys me immensely, I'd much prefer it if the kaijuu fights were balanced so they're just barely doable when you find them for an exciting challenge.

>免
>色

literally, etc.

>>136352977
>B
>R

文字通りなど

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>>136352783
「context」は文脈だよ

文脈に中々頼る言語＝日本語
文脈にあまり頼らない言語＝英語

クソ妹

こんなことのせいで姉を好む

When it comes to reading Japanese names (in this case, the name of a school), how should I try going about that? Is there a best-guess method? Maybe the kun reading of each character?

>starting to get a reasonable way into the 6k
>still feel like I can read nothing

Will this ever end, or am I just fucked?

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>>136353056
だいたいはわかるんだけど
具の体でいうところでどういうことなのん

>>136353125
Depends on what you're reading.
Some manga and games feel effortless right after you're done with 2k, some books and VN still hurt your brain after you mined for a year.

>>136353125
http://www.kecl.ntt.co.jp/icl/lirg/resources/goitokusei/goi-test.html

>23600
I can read most things without trouble

>almost able to understand conversational japanese to the point of being able to fill in blanks on a contextual basis
>still can't watch most anime and japanese media unsubbed because of specific subject matter that comes up
>can't really read at all because of kanji

This is a special kind of hell.

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I DID IT BOYS
I GOT TO THE 犬 CARD IN CORE6K
I THOUGHT THIS DAY WOULD NEVER COME

>>136353453
You would've got it ages ago if you had been mining core.

>>136353541
>mining core
??

>>136353387
What, have you just started studying Japanese?

>>136353340
>15400
what the fuck, this is so wrong I don't even know where to begin. I can't even read a simple VN without looking shit up every other sentence. And I don't think i checked more than half of the words.

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>>136353453
Stop being a dumb negro and use images, they're half of the fun.

>>136353644
I've never actually studied, just watched years worth of anime.

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>>136352783
>contextの高い低いってどういうことなの
Lol

>>136353056
>クソ妹
>tfw Google translate requires a space between クソ and 妹 to translate properly.
Shitty wizard.

>>136353711

I don't think my deck has media and adding it at this point would be a 迷惑.

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>>136353711
Ya, core has some real useful images

Can someone give me an example of the difference between "learning" and "memorizing"? It seems that everything that is considered learning boils down to memorization.

>>136353788
Don't you have audio at least?
That's very useful, especially if anglo scum.

>>136353788
I think you mean 面倒

Is there anybody else here learning Japanese that isn't spending hours on anki?

>>136353846
Learning is using the language, reading and writing and talking, and getting better at it.

Memorization is memorization, learning all of the words, but you need it before you can truly learn.

>>136353858
I only spend minutes on Anki, but it took me years of using it more to get to this level.

>>136352938
Yeah, hilarious is pretty much the word I'd use. I tried coming back to him recently but my attempt was only slightly less pathetic than the first time.

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Hey guys, what could "nomerairesu" mean? Is it some kind of dialect? I don't get it.

for the beginners: 飲む = nomu = drink

>>136353892
Thanks for the definition, but I still don't understand what about your definition of learning doesn't boil down to memorization.

>>136353847

It does have audio; I use it while learning new cards and turn it off for reviews, although it's not particularly necessary for me - despite being EFL master race, years of anime watching have hammered nip pronunciation into my brain. The only new subtleties I've noticed from Core audio are certain "gu" sounds sounding more like "ŋu" in various contexts.

>>136353937
>な→ら
>で→れ
You need to read more porn.