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>I thought it was supposed to be a gag manga.
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>>136218012
Patiently waiting for rello
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>"It's a silly light-hearted fantasy comedy manga"
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>>136218012
Oh anon. Try not to be caught in recent developments. Try to remember the fun times. Like Helck cheating at racing, the Silly mask, Azudora falling in his own traps, and all those fun times that are actually foreshadowing that the human race has been converted into insane monsters and Helck is the last survivor and he's slowly being consumed by his own darkness and will have to murder all those he loves. Oops, should have left off that last part.
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None of the spoilers I've seen so far are any edgier that some WSJ series get away with, so I don't see why everyone masturbates about how edgy it supposedly is.
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>>136218574
It's not edgy, it's depressing and saddening
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>>136218574
That's because no one is.
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>>136218012
i want to protect that smile.
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>>136218574
> edgy
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>53a 53b are both uploaded 5 minutes ago
>Try loading
>It breaks
>Can no longer load

Did everyone overload the server?
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>>136218328
Silly anon, Helck didn´t cheat, because he didn´t fall of his amazing dog, you are trying to bend the rules, aren´t you?

Also, even if an anime would ruin the fanbase, seeing the sad parts with a good adaptation could be amazing.
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>>136218771
Fuck, that wasn't a white brush I used to hide the sfx.
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>>136218574
It's not edgy you idiot.
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>>136218012
Seeing the winged soliders in the background along with the goofy things makes me sad.
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>>136218012
It's like PG13 fastpaced Bastard.
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>hurr durr demons are good, angels are evil
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>>136219066
>angels
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>>136219246
>implying those angels don't look more human than Garithos
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>>136219066
Humans seem evil because they have it tough, they are the weaker race and almost incapable of defend themselves against the monsters. And they are not evil as a whole, when they were about kill Alicia there was the hobo old man that told Helck that the medics wouldn´t treat a refugee like him being disgusted by the mob mentality (at least that it´s how I took his actitude)
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>>136219051
Helck isn't an immoral rapist like Dark Schneider.
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>>136219360
You mean Dan Schneider?
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>>136219395
No I mean our lordfucker Darsch
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>>136218328
>the Silly mask
What is it with silly masks recently? This and Plunderer both used them to trick you.
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>>136219066
daily reminder, he was wrong all the time
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>>136219395
You mean Dan "The Large Hymen Collider" Schneider?
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I want to protect civilians with Anne-chan from management.
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>>136220101
But Anne-chan is from management.
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>>136218574
There a different between edgy and soul crushing you silly goose.
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Daily reminder that kids, babies and fetuses were transformed into winged mobs too and that they will die at the end.
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>>136219066
Go away Garithos.

>>136219358
Simple. Humans mostly aren't evil, but jerkass.

The nobles however...they are a different snowflake.
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>>136219358
based old hobo, he can smell the bullshit
too bad he's a mindless muscle zombie angel now
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>>136220264
What are the chances the rest of the mercenaries retained their mind? I mean I don't even remember if they had names.
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I feel like Vamirio's reaction/Helck's recounting was handled somewhat awkwardly.

Of course it's awkward given that Vamirio is "Anne from Management", but it still feels like they were much more steely than was reasonable - especially given these are *recent events* to Helck; he shouldn't really be able to get through his story without losing the thread at least once.

Hoping that later emotional events are portrayed more "human"/pragmatically.
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>>136219360
It's not rape if it's with Dark Schneider. Reminder that that fact is in-universe canon.
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>>136219358
Why did people want to lop heads off so badly back then? It's not like they're going to show everyone's head to the audience.
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>>136220450
They are two people with steel resolve to go through this so the few good people still alive can be saved, they're not going to be crying everywhere.
remember Helck told this so Vamirio would be prepared for the worst?
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>>136220450
Helck already broke down during his flash back. He has long since steeled himself. You're basically whining that Guts didn't break down on the fucking boat trip and cry like a little bitch when he gets reminded Casca still hates him and is crazy.
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>>136220569
Yes, but you're still bound to have some sort of unconscious reaction(s) to someone recounting events tantamount to the Eclipse, regardless of who you are.
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>>136220500
Actually they did back then. It was a spectacle to be had.
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>>136220731
>You're basically whining that Guts didn't break down on the fucking boat trip
except he essentially did and almost drowned, then spent time thinking to himself about his loss
there's also a difference between recounting recent events to the one person you trust and silently remembering something that happened to you years ago
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>>136220783
Are you talking about Vamirio?
She did have reactions through it, but mostly because of Helck's friendship with those people.
I doubt she really is all that worried about it, not like she liked humans and is sad that they are gone.
and Helck already cried/got depressed enough about this whole thing.
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>>136220783
Which he did. You just aren't paying attention.
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thanks for the death flag Vamirio-chan!
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>>136220909
It's also different when recounting something while being steeled and resolved to die protecting your new friends than just crying like a little bitch to your new friends because you had none.

That's the reason why he was shocked for a moment when Vamirio told him he must live. He already had the mentality of a dead man with a mission.
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>>136220333
hard to say
those guys are very likable and the author enjoys to make us and helck suffer, so there's that, but then again, maybe he just closed the book on them
maybe they still hang with Alicia as some sort of morbid reminder what they used to be
Zell still hangs with his former comrades, that mage guy and maybe that assassin a few chapters ago
It would be even worse if they still retain the old group dynamic, all cheerful and friendly, only with hatred towards demons
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>>136220869
Oh, I thought they would have just shown a couple and not all of the prisoners.
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>>136220996
Helck's collecting all them flags, he's going for the reverse death flag were he lives because he had too many flags.
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>>136219540
get a load of this elf
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>>136221079
If it weren't for him, Kael wouldn't have skedaddled to Outland, joined Illidan and ended up as a raid boss in BC with a stupid reason to turn evil.
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>>136221079
INHUMAN
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Looks like I missed a Rello dump, anybody got a link to the last thread?
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>>136221070
He would be the type of hero that absorbs everyone's death flags literally and then either dies because of it or breaks the flags
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>>136220491
If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, then it might as well rape like duck too.
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>>136221304
Slating a member of the royal family of a sovereign nation and his soldiers for execution isn't doing something wrong? Especially when Garithos had no legal or moral right to do so?
The council ruling Dalaran at the time shares in the blame as well for not helping the elves.
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alicia was too good for this world
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>>136221542
>>136221304
meant to >>136221079
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>>136219358
Hell the demons have it much harder.
They take the main brunt of the monster, poison corruption and new world shit and so.
They are that strong, because they could otherwise not survive.
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>>136221304
in the same way garithos only cared about humans kael only cared about elves. Elves turned against their own race before, you bet your ass they would turn against humans as soon as they could
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>>136221476

>>136195700
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>>136221304
>>136221542
Forgot literally everything about WoW except the elves book trilogy i bought a few years ago.
Can you explain in a way that someone whomknows nothing understand?
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>>136221615
Much appreciated, anon.
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>>136220996
>>136221070
>>136221498
I forsee that the only way to save humanity is some sacrifice on Helck's part. Best case he becomes the new king worse he becomes Jesus
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hits like a sack of bricks.
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>>136221653
>Kael brings forces to help fight the zombies
>happens to get helped with no cost by naga
>Garithos sees, rants about treason
>sends Kael on suicide mission
>naga offer help again, Kael has no choice but to accept with no human help
>Garithos loses his shit again, accuses him of treason and locks his people up in the dungeon and planned to execute them with absolutely no authority to do so
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>>136222017
I should replay warcraft 1 and 2 when i have time. Ty 4 help.
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>>136221079
>I hate working with these... people
Man he was a really fun character, too bad just like Arthas they fucked up big time.

>>136221542
elves were sluts for magix, ticking time bombs
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Shit, this is actually good.
I did well by boarding the hype train while it was running.
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New chapters
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Come on rello you awakened and now you gotta fight till you die
You'll get resurrected anyway
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Fuck, it will all end in tears
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>>136222017
Now that I think about it weren't there a fuck ton of elves in Dalaran?

You would think they would have been against having their last remaining prince, who fucking studied at Dalaran, as well as all the women and children who were with him butchered.
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>yfw anne is vamirio
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Azudora dream was to be friends with humans once again, that can´t happen if they all die at the end, so as I said in in other thread it´s possible that Azudora will use some contract and give his life to save the humans somehow, even if a great number of them doesn´t desrve it.

And even if he can live to see his dream, Helck will promise him that he will make it come true.
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>>136222569
Such an asspull from the author, how disappointing.
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>>136222578
I don't think it's every single human, unless the only humans in the world happen to live in the empire, which could be true.
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>>136222569
THAT WAS BULLSHIT, I WAS YELLING AT THE SCREEN FOR FIVE GOD DAMN MINUTES STRAIGHT WHEN THAT SHIT WENT DOWN. even thinking about it made me flip my shit.
>MFW
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>>136222472
That's just the typical Blizzard oversight. You shouldn't be expecting too much from a one trick pony that's literally the Bioware of Activision.
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Who's the guy spying on the humans anyway?
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>>136222726
The hell who uses such a high caliber gun on a a deer?
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>>136222759
That's the catgirl's sister.
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>>136222759
Demon Empire spy sister.
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>>136222759
It´s a girl and is also a subordinate of Vamirio. Also there was a shadow spying on Azudora too, maybe there are winged spys too.
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>>136222751
garithos was doing it with no authority whatsoever, dalaran wasn't even informed
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Asuta is 11/10 in my book.
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Well NOW I'm crying ;_;
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>>136222751
WC3 era Blizz writing is still leagues better than current.
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>>136222798
AMERICA
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>>136223232
FUCK YEAH!!
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>>136222987
While she certainly is a lovely girl i would like to see her sister in a ballroom dress aswell, or Hyura.
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>>136222798
The same guy who uses a car to hunt deer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4Ub_3t1JK8

>>136223232
>>136223261
It's a brit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz0BsN4_CCs
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>>136223220
I cannot deny that.
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So if she's Vamirio, who was Anne-chan from management?
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>>136222751
>the Bioware of Activision.
Man this sounds like a damn bad curse.
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>>136223187
its such a little thing, but I love how her hood has a place for her ears. It must be so comfy.
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>>136223503
It's about the same level of curse that Helck's comrades are going through.
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>>136223483
The King
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>>136223641
>Same curse
>Being in a situation that is essentially worse than slavery

Too true.
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>>136223722
Except Bioware deserves everything.

Don't know about Blizz.
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>>136223483
Don't you know? Anne from management is one of the greatest superheroes of the Empire. To think her true identity was Lady Vamirio all along is uncanny.
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>>136223799
They had their chance. Going almost 20 years without learning anything original is a pretty big sin in an industry that thrives ideally thrives on innovation and creativity.

They just mistakenly believed their gimmick was the Midus Touch.
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>>136223187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXlE8ZESSEI
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>>136222383
It ends like this
Vamirio is seen piercing Helck with the hero killer.
He is on his knees next to the corpse of the king, Rafaed, Mikaros and dozens of the winged soldiers.
As Helck is losing his consciousness, he thanks Anne for beeing there for him, for not letting him die alone and being the last he has to see and not the gruesome scene around him.
Vamirio is seen crying as the scene turns black.
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3
4
Many years later, a girl maybe in her early twenties from her looks is on her way to visit someone.
Someone shouts after her "my lord please wait, you cannot simply leave now, you have important duties as one of the emperors guards".
The girl says she will and has to leave now.
She arrives at a small house in a remote part of the empire and knocks on the door.
A bird opens and they are happy to see each other, he says come in he was expecting you.
An old men lies on the bed and says it is good to see you one last time. They talk about their past, but we do not really get to hear what they talk about.
We get to hear this after some scenes of spending the evening together.
The girl and bird are cocking for the old men and eating with him on his bed side and so on.
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>>136223799
>StarCraft II
>Every WoW expansion where they turn a character into a raid boss via muh insanity, or shit over the character's established characteristics
>Diablo III
>That moment when Metzen takes over the reins and becomes Senior Vice President of Story and Franchise Development and doing all this bullshit.

>>136223981
Blizzard today is good only in two things: Cinematics and female models.
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>>136224057
As the old men takes his last breaths he says "I know you have a lot do in your position, but thank you for coming. It was good to see you one last time Anne-chan, thank you for everything!".
The girl with a forced smile on her face, trying to save her composer says with tears coming from her eyes "Helck you knew you knew how I hate to be called that".
The old men dies and the girl seems to have trouble holding herself up says to the bird "come let us leave Piuy".
As they leave the house in the middle of the night a huge crowd is infront of the house and the girl falls to her knees.
Azudora of the four heavenly kings, Kenros, Hyura, simply everyone that had a connection to the three that spend the night together came, even the emperor himself.
Azudora said "when the emperor got told you simply disappeared he knew what was going on and immediatly summoned us, but you know we simply could not disturb that last moment of peace you three needed that moment for yourselfs Vamirio-chan".
The girl would usualy be angered by this, but did not even have the strength to argue.
They helped her up and took her among them, everyone bowed slightly in the direction of the house as they lit it on fire and let it burn.
The girl said "Helck, he was not our hero, he was not even born as one of us, but he was our comrade, our friend".
No one among them could really keep their composure.
Tears did seem to flow endlessly that night as they mourned the passing of a dear friend.


Please excuse my bad english, it is not my native language and it is late here already.

Tears did flow!
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>>136224105
The series hasn't ended yet, has it?
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>>136224144
Well obviously, that was simply a reply to"it will end in tears".
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>>136224058
>Cinematics
>Lots of technical prowess, zero substance ever since Panda cinematic which already had very little substance but was at least thematic and fitting
>female models
>best rendition is probably still Nova's ass and everything else is just a variation of it
>female faces are generic and nothing noteworthy

I think if their cinematics still had the same impact as before it would be a different story, but female models was a lost cause the moment Skyrim modding came into play.
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>>136224365
And they had to cover up Sylvanas's midriff.
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>>136224539
Yeah, hence Bioware of Activision. They are spineless.
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>>136224722
To be fair, that was Metzen using possibly the last influence on the orders of his daughter.
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>>136224722
Spineless and ball-less.

I'd rather if they died out and somebody competent takes over their titles...but then again ActiVision is still in control. And as long as that lamprey Kotick is around, there is no hope.
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>>136222569
Nice asspull there.
Out of nowhere a little girl is suddenly one of the 4strongest elite heavenly king.
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[incoherent rage]
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>>136225055
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>>136225213
Seriously now, when will she put the cute hood up?
This could heal me a little.
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>>136225095


There's still hope, bad guys lie all the time.
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>>136225213
Why did she react like that?
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>no good outcome in sight
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>>136224864
That's the very definition of spineless. Letting your family matters influence your work when you are at the top level of management of a multi million (or is it billion now?) company in regards to those kinds of decisions.

Imagine if JK Rowling's kid started to decide hating Harry Potter halfway because he disliked magic and liked martial arts, and then during the next novel Harry starts learning kung fu. Then over time, he gradually stops using magic, until he literally becomes the bane of wizards, and awakens as a super saiyan. Oh but he still has those dorky glasses and wears a wizard robe cause ya know, you wouldn't recognize him otherwise.
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WHAAAAAT???

YOU'RE FUCKING KIDDING
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>>136225412
it'd be nice if my image posted

I don't believe it
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>>136225387
Helck has new friends and comrades now.

It is time to let go of the past.
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>>136223187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKAoSY5bhSw
Fantastic.
>>136224028
you got it, anon
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>>136225459
I love how Helck is so surprised here, as if genuinely shocked by the reveal, and then it's like it's no big deal at all. Then again she continues after this so he doesn't get much of a chance to say much anyway.
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So everybody is shocked at Anne's reveal, but...
Helck is probably Heruku in nipspeek
Herukuresu = Hercules

Coincidence? I think not!
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>>136225459
>>136225657
rather than being surprised, I think Helck is surprised that she is willingly telling him who she is, as a sign of trust
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well, now I'm convinced my idea to play the FF9 OST while reading this was a good one
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>>136225376
She's got a complex about being treated like a little girl. That's why she kept trying to get people not to use "chan" with her.
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>>136225721
Are you a potato?
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>>136225376
Well she is most likely older age wise, but he is also right as she is in a young stage for her race.
The thing i she does not like to be treated like a kid, she is the serious kind of type.
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>>136225411
Oh yes, just saying that was more of a great example of Metzen individually being a shit.
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>>136225376
She is definitely much older than Helck but her body is still immature due to the long elf race lifespan.
This is how she would look like in the future.
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>>136224057
>>136224058

Is that shit true?
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I want to lick Hyura's armpits.
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>>136226113
I cared a lot more about Hyura when I thought she was a dark skinned beauty and not a blue skinned slutbag.
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>>136226101
It's a fan theorizing the ending because tears
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>>136226101
no, obviously its fananon
The raws are only until 65~ chapters. That rello is doing such good work at such a high speed is the only reason anyone is caring about helck at the moment.
Once rello burns out or we run out of raws, everything will stop.
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>>136226113
For a second, I thought it said Helick.
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>>136226101
Blizzard? Yes
The ending? Just fanfiction
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>>136226179
Why? what does that matter?

I mean i would have loved it if she was brown instead of blue but she is fine bieng blue.
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>>136226204
At this point with the huge downer flashback I think its fine to revert to the more comic atmosphere but the story still needs to respect the dark tone otherwise it will be S H I T.
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>>136226300
Nobody like Drow, fucking nobody, they are shit SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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alicia will claim to be a good girl and help out helck, only to backstab him later with her sword

should've killed her while you had the chance
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>>136226374
FUCK YOU
VICONIA FOR LIFE
RACE WAR NOW
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>>136226300
I just dont really find blue skin all that attractive. Im not a complicated man, I use my penis as my guide and it says no blues.
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Batoto has this image in the index of Helcks chapters.

Now, everytime i open it i feel sad.

Fuck, why didnt Helck at least kiss her.
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>>136226179
Why so racist?
She is a Gamilas masterrace
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>>136226374
>they are shit SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT

You should have paid attention when she kept calling everything shitty then. The foreshadowing was there.
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>>136226300
a black elf would suggest more chances of a real waifu

its just anon being a loser, just smile and ignore.
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>>136226440
Well you can allways imagine her bieng brown if you never see her in anything but black and white.
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>>136226311
We've hit a point where the story now has to balance out comedy and serious, which isn't easy to do. Beforehand there was plenty of comedy with the occasional serious moments, but now we know the ultimatum; if Helck kills the King, then humanity will basically perish and/or destroy everything around them. And the New World Organisms are a threat to Demonkind as well. Thus Helck, Vamirio and everyone else have to find a solution to both problems with real and valid danger likely to ramp up now.
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>>136226101
I wrote that and no it is not.

Just for the "it will end in tears".
Someone wrote that and I thought, well maybe that is how it will end.
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>>136226434
>Viconia
>Not just kidding, Aerith is a whiny baby and Jaheira's romance is too creepy
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>>136223187
This is actuallya good advice.

Ones fifghtes better when trying to survive.
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>>136225657
not like she's the first demon king he made friends with
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>>136226204
>>136226238
>>136226263
>>136226513

Thank god....

The only way for Helck to die is by sacrificing himself to kill the cursed king.

A hero dieing of old age is....

unsightly
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>>136225754
> any ff ost
A man of taste I see.
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>>136226506
They left all the serious stuff back at the flashback.
Even when they were seriously fighting with winged angel, we get top quality comedy like Edil wanting to bone Hyura and dogface
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>>136226179
She was always blue in my mind, I'm so sorry for you
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>>136226447
I started reading it and binge-read it on Batoto nonstop, so I forgot about this picture.
Then, after clicking on the last page, it takes me to this.
;____________;
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>>136226447
>THE VOLUME COVER HAS THE SNOW AND THE EXACT SAME BACKGROUND AS THE PROMISE
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>>136226722
What race is announcer girl anyways?
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>>136227075
Elf.
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>>136226558
everyone who choses everything besides Viconia is fucking dumb
>picking the retard girl or the clingy "I lost my husband ;_;"
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>>136226300
In fact blue makes her even hotter.
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>>136227189
God, Vami-chan's scowl does funny things to my heart
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>>136226447
That is one fine ass.
I wanna eat it
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>Elves
It never occurred to me but there's much less sexualization than normal in these threads considering that a female elf is one of the main characters.
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>>136225387
What if Helck just becomes the new king and then unites everyone to fight off the monsters? And he makes Hyura his queen
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>>136228217
it's never been clearly stated that she's an elf. those ears could be just demon features.
no way she is an dirty elf
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>>136228217
It has 0 fanservice.
When I think about it, I'm surprised that it really doesn't.
And no, Helck doesn't count, even though he's the cutest.
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>go to sleep at almost 5 am
>wake up at noon after 7 or so hours of sleep
>got to lunch at an Uzbek place
>8 hours later realize that Rello was on around the time I was coming back from lunch posting new chapters

Fug

Also am I the only one who hopes that when Helck meets Alicia again it won't be more utter despair? I kind of want Helck to just march in and demolish the heroes and then end the king.

I don't even really care whether the humans live or not, I just want Helck to wreck them.

>people are trying to put Anne and Helck together as love interests

He calls her a little girl, I don't think Helck wants to bang her.
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>>136228657
When has that stopped anyone from sexualizing elves?
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>>136228256
>Helck somehow absorbs the power of the king

Remember that "king" and "hero" have different awakenings
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>>136228217
Elves are strong unlike in doujinshi where they became rapebait.
Just look at Hyura she is a slut through and through and only go after pretty boy like Edil. I see immense femdom potential here.
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>>136228788
Vamirio, unlike most elves, has no features that can really be sexualized

She's just unsexy.
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>>136228788
It does sometimes.
But don't be worried, people want to fuck the announcer girl and so on.
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>>136228868
I dunno man, I have a thing for redheads.
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>>136228868
That has never stop character like Louise or Shana from becoming extremely popular.
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You've made Helck angry.
What the FUCK do you do to stay alive?
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>>136228949
For characters like these the lack of sex appeal IS the sex appeal.
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>>136228865
Hyura is not an elf.
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>>136228868
>She's just unsexy.
Have you seen those ears?
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>>136228990
>>
>Azudora wants to be friends with the humans again
>Helck kills every human except Cless's girlfriend
>both of them are friendly with demons

LIKE POTTERY

>>136228949
But Louise and Shana are objectively sexy

Vamirio is not
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>>136228990
Call saitama and bribe him with sales coupons.
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>>136228990
I don't remember being a disgusting asshole to the point of possibly angering him.
I mean, it takes a whole lot of effort to do that.
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>>136229013
She's a filthy dark elf
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>>136228990
Sing a song to calm him down pyu.
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>>136228868
You're all fools.
Can't you realize it's the inmense power of Helck? He is the perfect defender, to the point that his soothing aura reaches through dimensions and stops your lewd thoughts before they form.
Only Hyura and the witch are slightly sexualized because their high powerlevel makes them somewhat resistant to his magic. As for Vamirio, it's obvious that she already fell in love with Helck.
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>>136228258
>>136228258
Remember they are not really demons, that is just what the humans call them.
They have basically all the fantasy races on the continent and 15 of them came together under the dragon emperor and unified to create the empire.
All to be able to continue against the monster.
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>>136229138
And demon = magic race in Japanese.
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>>136229105
>fell in love
shipperfags go and stay go.
She only thinks of him as a man that deserves to live a happy life after all his suffering.
>>
Seriously what the fuck mang.
I mean, I'm absolutely loving Helck.
But it was a kinda of a kick in the nuts.
I-I just wanted a happy, gag manga ;_;
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I just realized Helck ending badly is impossible unless the heroes disintegrate upon the king's death due to having died multiple times

Remember that Helck said the humans were held in check because of his power of rule and would go berserk without it? But that would only apply to the mindless ones.

Irregulars like Edil are already showing signs of resisting the king's control, so clearly if the king dies all of the irregulars will be fine- just 90% of humans will end up needing to be killed due to going berserk without someone with a brain to control the mindless ones.
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>>136229206
My BAKA!! counter says otherwise
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>>136229265
Helck is not a lolicon

Also his heroic cock would tear her in half
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>>136229096
She's a ahawhatsit. I bet you think lions are cats, too!
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>>136229265
she call Azudora and the henchman guy baka as well, is she a slut craving for multiple cocks now?
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>>136229195
Long ears and everyone high up of them or shown fighting uses magic.,.
Also ridicoulesly long life and slow aging.
They are high elves.
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>>136229333
I said she is in love with him, not he with her.
Helck is far too pure for love.
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>>136229138
>they're just called demonlord because it sounds cool!
>they're not actually lords of the demons!
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>>136229239
>But that would only apply to the mindless ones.
Wrong m8.
Even the "not-monster" awakened heroes are being kept "sane" by the King's order.
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>>136229383
You reality-denyingfags are getting really annoying.
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>>136229404
>Zell
>sane

The most logical conclusion would be the mindless ones won't get their minds back if Helck kills the king

If Edil is already able to resist the king's control without negative effects then we can reason that the ones who retained their minds will be fine, and at some point Edil will probably break free entirely which will be a twist that will give Helck some hope that he can get Alicia back

And then Alicia will somehow die permanently, because despair
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>>136229333
She's 350 years old.
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>>136229404

That is only what the bad guys were claiming. They could've been lying to hurt Helck even more and possibly make him give up his crusade.
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>>136229562
>loli is age

Lolicon is not the same as pedophilia, a 30 year old character who looks like a little girl is still a loli

Vamirio is a loli
>>
Please complete with your best boy/girl:
I WANT TO FUCK ___________
I WANT TO HUG ____________
I WANT TO CUDDLE WITH _____________
I WANT TO PET ________________
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Even with all this despair, I still think they will save humanity.

Of course, that doesn't mean everyone will survive, I'm sure some of Helck's friends will die, being Alicia the one with more chances.
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>>136229392
The title "Demon King" is bestowed to someone who is sent to a remote outpost to guard again C class threat.

It is literally a security guard post. They just called it demon king to scam the unsuspecting civilian into signing the contract to be a one.
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>>136229624
No
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>>136229648
Anne
Anne
Anne
Anne
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>>136229046
>dfcs
>ever being attractive
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>>136229679
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>>136229679
>anne
literally W H O?
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>>136229648
fuck Edil
hug Helck
cuddle with Vamirio
pet Anne
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>>136229562
Loli is bodytype, not age.
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>>136229739
you know, from management
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>>136229648
Fuck Rello
Hug Alicia
Cuddle with Helck
pet Vamirio
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>>136229674
>trying to conflate lolicon with pedophilia

Fuck off m8
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>>136229825
No loli no life.
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>Anne-chan smells like a grandma
Why was this included? Is it important?

Is he relating Anne to the "old hag" witch?
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>>136229695
Flat is justice
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>>136229648
Hug Helck
Pet Vamirio
Cuddle with Anne
Fuck girl from management
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>>136229857

He's saying all elves/demons smell the same.
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>>136229857
>Is he relating Anne to the "old hag" witch?

Obviously, yeah?
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>>136229857
>It's another time travel theory
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>>136229857
Either because she's actually really old or she smells like the witch who is considered old.
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>>136229867
Might be justice, just not attractive.
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>>136229857
Maybe Anne already had children and grandchildren? She's an elf after all.
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>>136229648

Asuta
Asuta
Asuta
Asuta
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>>136229672
Don't make fun, maou inflation is a serious issue in some economies. One day it's 3000 kilis to the Super Saiyan and the next you can't even get a coffee for a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan or Demon King of the Four Heavenly Kings
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>>136227189
Wait, her hair is green?! Whoa
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>>136229857
Anne smells like the witch. They also look identical beside age. Hint hint.
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>>136223187
>>136222383
>>136220450

Is this by the same guy who made Needless?
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>>136230143

The witch is Anne's grandmother!
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>>136230148
The art looks nothing alike.
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>>136230143
>time travel

Please stop. If it is time travel then the entire story will suffer tremendously because it will bring up the question of why future Vamirio didn't just kill the king and Mikaros and Rafaed before they could enact their plans. Time travel will ruin Helck.
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>>136228990
If you made him angry,there's a good reason you don't deserve to stay alive.

Might as well give up.
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>>136230363
how would Vamiro know how to kill Mikaros and Rafaed, before she met Helck?

She only knew about their scheming after Helck told her
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>>136230438
Because if the witch is future-Vamirio then clearly she'd know everything already.

Time travel is shit.
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>>136230363
Mikaros and Rafaed were actually trying to open a path to a fucking remote island with nothing but a witch who look like and smell like Anne-chan from management and also has a grown up mascot character beside her like Piuy.

Hmm, I wonder why they want to go there.
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>>136230468
>Witch knows of King and Archesage after it happens
>Helck is already with present Vamirio after the happening in human kingdom

either you are dumb or this is a silly way of trolling
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>>136230499
Which part of the gate creation failing and sending them to a random location did you miss in that chapter
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>>136230499
A witch researching tech from the ruins

They could be looking for a vault of ancient tech located there
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>>136230499
The portal was supposed to be from the human world to the demon world.
They just got teleported to a random place.
This was clearly explained.
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>>136230238
It's possible that she's an ancestor of anne's, but it's more likely that time travel.
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>>136230363
>Witch
>NOT pyromancer
Anne loses her power which is necessary to fight the humans somehow, rendering her powerless until Anne and Helck arrive.
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>>136230603
Coincidentally, which part of the gate creation failing and sending them to a random location did you miss in that chapter to think it's impossible they traveled through time?
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>>136230663
Or a long lost relative cause time travel is a bitch to work into a story

Some can make it work in small doses but other times it act like a cancer and just kills the whole narrative
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>>136228868
>implying
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>>136230715
the part that gates are a teleportation magic and are used to move a short or long locations, not time.
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>>136230538
I'm talking about fucking time travel you fucking idiot

If the Witch is Anne from the future then that will make for shitty fucking writing because future-Anne (the Witch) would have been in a position to stop things from going to shit before they happened and would have chosen not to for some shitty shoehorned reason like "only Helck can change destiny" or something fucktard like that

Learn to fucking read
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>>136230716
Also teleportation gates can't just malfunction and time travel that's stupid.
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>>136230801
Good thing Helck's world is the same as Chrono Trigger right
oh wait
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>>136230799
>>136230801
this niggah knows whats up
>>
>Helck is incredibly unpopular in Japan
>sells like shit
>will never get an anime
>author is being pressured to finish it early

It's over... why is Japan so bad.
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>>136230799
Yeah, why doesn't every time traveler try to stop Hitler? They should always be out to cause paradoxes that will always work out good always or it's a bad story.

Or you're dumber than you think and too big of a fuckhead to even properly criticize time travel plots by just squawking everything is shit.
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>>136230715
How could Azudora track their movement if they're in a different time?
>>
Is this series up on madokami?
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>>136230893
you got a source for that other than your ass?
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>>136230801
Chrono trigger is a rare good story that used time travel well

A lot of of works just use it as a shitty gimmick and just become to convoluted to make sense of after they feature it
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>>136230838
No, it's just loaded full of Square Enix references.
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>>136230893
It's the second most popular manga in it's magazine according to the poll that was posted here last week, and it's page had more views than the first place manga
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>>136230893
No way, that would freaking suck. Isn't Helck 2nd right now to Yuusha ga Shinda to get an anime?
>>
>travel to future
>get shikango
>go through fog and whirlpool back to the present
>ruins are actually the ruins of the empire in the future
This is one way to see it. It is not necessary for Witch-sama to be in the present.
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>>136230893
It would be a blessing these days, people went full retarded with their theorycrafting and those threads are now a torture until Rello posts.
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>>136224057
>The girl and bird are cocking for the old men
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>>136228990
Jokes on you I'm already awakened. Kill me, I'll just come back to life. After all it's not like he can do anything worse to me at this point.
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>>136230799
>the future is the past if I think so!
Ask for psychiatric help before you're too far gone.
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>Helck will never get a big budget anime with great production values and perfectly-matched orchestrated soundtrack.
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>>136230899
Albert Einstein tried that once. The consequences of his attempt made WWII look like a picnic in comparison.
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>>136230900
They're tracking them as they are back from the future, for example.
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>>136230968
The threads thrive on your overreacting butthurt. The whiners can't tell when people are joking and just have to correct the Vamirio =/= Anne joke.
>>
god dammit why are these threads so shit these past few days?
You fucks with your blogs and shitty theories make it so hard to wait for rello
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>>136231012
Ura sunday is a literal noname magazine. Forget about challenging WSJ, it is even below shit like gangan joker or even alphapolis.
You literally cannot name one anime from that magazine.
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>>136231056
I'm not even reacting, that was my second reply here.
But I'm sure I'm gonna be called butthurt anyway.
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>>136230799
>manga that loves to foreshadow things
>witch-sama looked a bit like you

I don't think it's time travel either. Possibly a family member of Anne's and is able to see into possible futures or some shit like that./spoiler]
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>>136230968
Just gotta learn to ignore/hide it. They have been pretty bad threads but at least rello quells the cancer.
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>>136231019
Fuck you, I for one enjoy Tesla Coils.
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>>136230899
>PIME TARADOX

WHICH IS WHY FUCKING TIME TRAVEL SHOULDN'T BE IN STORIES IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE
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>>136231095
>call something torture
>not butthurt you guys stahp
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>>136231112
Sorry bitch but your Serbian ain't nearly as much of a genius you purport him to be. If he was so smart he wouldn't have to deal with the bullshit that is the patent wars by sheer virtue of being ahead of everyone else.
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>>136231002
>I have zero reading comprehension please rape my face
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>>136231163
oh boy, you used capslock, now you have lost the argument by default.
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>>136231163
>FUCKING TIME TRAVEL SHOULDN'T BE IN STORIES IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE
You said that but half of the top rated eroge in egs are time travel/parallel world/loop story.
Even one of the most successful anime of this decade is a story that use timeloop.
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>>136231112
I do to. I do not however enjoy dealing with giant killer ants, tears in the time-space continuum, or douchebag psychics. Especially the giant killer ants.
>>
Why do people even think its time travel? Given the omakes showing that Vamirio was raised by Azudora it seems more likely the witch is just Anne's mom, hence the familiarity.
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>>136231089
OPM
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>>136231163
bitch about time travel saying characters should cause paradoxes, scream paradoxes shouldn't be in stories
y'all niggers are dumb
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>>136231082
>>136231056
Newfags are too uptight and srsfknbiz to go into in-joke. No surprise this happened right when the story went into flashback mode. Sufferingfags please go.
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>>136231217
What argument you idiot?
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>>136231208
Lol butthurt
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>>136231285
Why do you post without reading the previous posts I made

I was saying it shouldn't be in stories in the first place because it's a shitty thing to use. At no point did I contradict myself.
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>>136230929
To be fair, Chrono Trigger is pretty much entirely based around time travel compared to some stories just liberally throwing it in for a stable time loop most of the time, and even then Trigger doesn't try to be ultra-complex or deep and thoughtful about it and even has a few bits that make no sense but get handwaved as an entity behind time itself being responsible.
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>>136231274
People think it's time travel because who wouldn't recognize their own parent (or which parent wouldn't tell their child who they are)? And have you seen how similar they are? Plus the bird. The bird is really the deciding factor I think.
But it's a good point about the omake, too.
>>
>helck is super popular only in the west
>nips have shit taste as usual and don't buy the manga
>the publisher doesn't give a fuck about the west beucase muh nippon
>tfw
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>>136231375
>Plus the bird. The bird is really the deciding factor I think.
On the same island where Piuy lives in the first place. Not unreasonable to think there might be more than one bird there.
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>>136231351
>it will bring up the question of why future Vamirio didn't just kill the king and Mikaros and Rafaed before they could enact their plans.
Don't tell others to read your brain damaged posts when you can't read them yourself. You're not cute like Vermilio when you get worked up without being part of a joke, you're just a nonsensical dumbass with irritable bowel syndrome.
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>>136231397
Wasn't Helck in the top 3 of its publication according to some poll posted a few threads ago?
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>>136231463
Why wouldn't they be the same size/age? Why would the witch have adopted a bird just like anne has "just by coincidence"? Why haven't we seen any other bird island-wide?
>>
>>136231397
>the publisher doesn't give a fuck about the west beucase muh nippon
No, they don't care because it doesn't make money if nobody is buying it
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>>136231089
Mob Psycho 100
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>>136231375
And noone has thought that it could very well just be the place Anne was born in and the witch is her mom?
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>>136231581
She gave Anne the fucking bird, and Piuy liked Anne because she looks like the witch.
Y'all dense fucks.
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>Anne from management is actually Vamirio the entire time
I-is this the power of a Lord?
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>>136231710
Literally everybody has thought of it. But then there would be little to talk about. See if you can stop raging for a sec and recognize when people are just entertaining themselves. In a thread about entertainment. Bizarre, I know.
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>>136231754
YOU RETARD THE MANGA SAID VAMIRIO WAS ANNE WHY DOES NOBODY GET IT I WISH EVERYBODY WAS AS SMART AS ME FUCK YOU YOU'RE RUINING THIS THREAD IT'S TORTURE WHAT ARGUMENT I'M NOT BUTTHURT SHUT UP
>>
Rello is coming back tonight right guys?
I need my fix.
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>>136231917
His last post he said he would "be back later" so I guess he will dump at least one more chapter today.
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>>136231723
>She gave Anne the fucking bird
Are you serious right now or are you merely pretending to be retarded?
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>>136232043
Tomorrow, next week, next year are all "later".
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>>136232059
It got attached to her but the bird was with Witch in the first place.
And it got attached to her because she resembles Witch.
God, why do I even have to explain this shit.
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>>136232059
What's important is you're not pretending.
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>>136229105
GTFO
>>
Will Vamirio ever get to wear her big poofy hat again?
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So... Tooru was one of those twisted into awakening?
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>>136232500
Yeah, and also his subordinates, if you examine all the other corpses littering the area.
>>
>>136232500
>>136232630
oh god thats horrifying.
>>
>>136232630
God damn this manga has so many great small touches.
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>>136232500
How powerful would a awaken Demon King be?
I thought a normal hero, Cless, was not that strong because he could barely beat a Demon King, but Tooru was awaken, so Cless should be close to the power of a Heavenly King.
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>>136231580
Yeah, along with Yuusha ga Shinda and Keit-Ai.
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>>136232843
to be fair the only thing we have powerlevel wise to compare cless too is helck, now helck has been said to be stronger then cless by cless himself, but that doesn't mean all that much.
mind you cless survives all kinds of shit and is technically still "alive" so my bet is your right on the mark there.
>>
>>136232843
Well we don't know much about what happens to demons when they awaken. At the moment I'm guessing that the new world organisms are demons that were forced to awaken. Meaning that while stronger, Anne-chan could easily beat.
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>>136232766
You don't know the half of it. Every name is named after something from mythology and we just can't tell because they haven't been de-romanized.

Helck and Cless being Hercules is the obvious one.

Vamirio (Vermilio) is the Vermilion Bird. Azudora (Azura) is the Azure Dragon. The Four Heavenly Kings are the quartet of Chinese beasts.

Kenros is kentauros (centaur) which is why he runs fast. Hyura is Hydra so she regenerates.

The bad guys, Mikalos and Rafaed, are Michael and Raphael, which is why they command angels.
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>>136232500
>>136232630
>art inconsistency on the first couple pages is massive foreshadowing for something that still hasn't been spelled out 50 chapters later
jesus christ this manga
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>>136231397
almost 1st
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>>136232843
The demon king candidates are all around upper 39's to upper 40's, I think. Vamirio was 79. So yeah, definitely the level of a Heavenly King, especially since he looked pretty beat up by the end (as I'm sure Helck would still have had an easy-ish time winning).
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>>136232973
*Azudra
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>>136232916
>Keit-Ai
This is an actual thing and not a meme and a trailer?
>>
>>136218012
Uh is this bait or are people actually getting impressed by the mediocre writing and foreshadowing?
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>>136232973
To add onto Vamirio's name, Anne also works like that.

VamrioAnne(Vermillion).

>>136232843
I'm interested in how powerful an awakened Anne-chan would be.
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>>136232998
Wait is this real? Keit-Ai is actually real?
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>>136232998
I imagine the red number represents votes.
What is the blue one?
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>>136233095
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>>136233132
Also Japan likes referencing Anne of Green Gables, where it's retitled Redhaired Anne. The author must have had fun with that.

Tooru is probably Thor. The two linked sisters Asuta and Isuta are likely Astarte and Ishtar, different names for the same goddess. Along with the Four Heavenly Kings, the high ranked demons seem to have a pagan god theme going while the regulars are mythical creature names.
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>>136233221
I think they're views
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>>136233221
訪問数: visitors
I guess Helck is technically the most popular manga in the magazine already but most of the fans are too lazy to vote for it
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>>136233221
my guess would be views
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>>136233221
Views. Though people prefer eechi over a solid story.
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>>136233351
Is Piuy identifiable with anything?

With Anne being the Vermillion Phoenix, it seems like a setup for Piuy to be a Deux Ex Machina Phoenix.
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>>136233432
>>136233406
Might be a difference in the number of chapters
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>>136233017
The other Demon King we saw was Level 60.
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>>136233377
chek'em
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>>136233095
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>>136233488
One of the ones I can't tell except that he's spelled like Japanese for kiwi, usually the fruit. So it could be spelled Piwi.

But if that references anything beyond him being a cute gag mascot pseudo-bird, no clue.
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>>136233815
That actually makes sense considering his fluffiness and roundness.

He's a Kiwi bird, but starts with a P.

A Phoenix Kiwi.
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>>136233948
A PENIS KIWI????
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>>136233948
That's... that could work. He'd be durable if he can resurrect.
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>>136233351
Vamillio- Vermilion Bird
feng shui element -fire
Azudora- Azul(blue) + dora(dragon)
feng shui element- wood
so we might have black turtle character who focuses on defense and water/ice magic
and possibly more militant tiger character with metal powers
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>>136232500
Tooru looks like a goofball.
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>>136234087
>Dies 50 chapters later
>Anne cries
>Helck going off the deep end
>Piuy just pops back up 2 panels later and randomly shouts things again
>Lots of fire explosions and Happy Helck
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>>136234050
Piwi.
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>>136234273
90% of the sentient non-infected races are goofballs. Whether it was the mercenaries, the islanders, the pigs, or the Empire in general.

The only ones mostly in despair were the humans that couldn't fight, and well that's understandable they didn't even have a snowballs chance for the most part.

At least guys like the mercenaries have a decent survival rate so they could afford to have an optimistic mentality to the perils. Your average farmer is totally fucked.
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>>136233073
>>136233144
It found a way, apparently.
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>>136233095
4/10
because you tried and didn't go for 'shitty'
but do better next time, put more effort into it
awaken as a shit poster
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>>136234273
A likable goofball.
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Where are the evil demons
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So its supposed to be Vermilio and Vemi-chan?
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>>136233948
>He's a Kiwi bird
HELLO
PIWI IS NOT A BIRD
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>>136234574
Robbing liquor stores and committing tax fraud away from the battlefield.
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>>136234574
The tiger of the 4 heaveny kings is probably going to be "evil"
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Are we sure they are elves and not just japanese anime demons?
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>>136234729
what's the difference?
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>>136222569
The only way to top that aspull is witch=vamirio
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>>136234581
Nothing's official without an official translation.

My personal vote's on Vermilio and getting angry at being called Millie.
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>>136225095
It's fine! Helck just has to become the king!
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Or is Mili cuter and a better unintentional jab at her stature?
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>Clesses ability is to open gates through spacetime
what the fuck?
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>>136234729
Just like the timetravelfags, some people just made their own headcanon that the empire's people are a bunch of different non-demon races and are just labeled demons by their enemies. You might argue whatever, they'll stick to it even if the author confirms they're demons.
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>>136234780
>Nothing's official without an official translation.
>official translation

Yes Zolo, very official.
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>>136234916
He has the ability to draw power from NW or whatever that is. This power includes mass awakening and portals.
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>>136234916
The warp spell is a staple of the heroes he's based on.
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>>136234968
>implying the ads for the anime wont have names in romanji
It's going to be retarded shit like HxH
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>>136234968
Shut up and eat your hamburgers
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>>136235011
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir
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>>136235042
You tell them Yen Press, who needs western sales?
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announcer-chan has big boobies
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>>136226722
Edil wants to bone Dogface?
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>dogface is atleast as strong as hyura
>got fucked over by helck ruinign his card castle
poor guy
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>>136235409
Was he really? I don't remember them saying his power level. Hyura was practically at the top of the ones shown. Kendros is the amazing one, he's only 38 and he still manages to hang in there when Edil is like 36 or something.
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>>136235349
nah, dogface himself is funny
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>>136235349
Edil wants to bone Blue girl.
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>>136235460
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>>136234610
This
He even says so in the omake
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>>136235639
That's a pretty huge gap from Hyura honestly, even before she leveled up. He's around the same level as Barrier guy.
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>>136235639
I wonder who was outside the window.
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>>136235890
Either the shadow human guy, or one of the other 4 kings. Likely the shadow guy.
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>>136235928
OR the witch.
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Demons are just post awakening humans.

When the Human King dies and stops forcing them into a constant state of awakening humanity will die with him because everyone grew elf ears
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>>136235771
He has bird feet, a bird beak and wings. He's a bird.
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>>136235858
it's okay, only posted the page because you didn't remember that dogmans level was mentioned
not trying to prove you wrong, just autism
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>>136235302
Prove it?
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>>136222987
When did this happen?
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>>136235954
>humans were originally just planks of wood
I don't like where your train of thought is headed
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>>136234263
>black turtle character who focuses on defense and water/ice magic

Not necessarily. The Black Turtle is also called the Black Warrior or the Emperor of True Martial Arts, so he could be an awesome fighter. Most Black Turtle references don't have this but it would be cool.
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>>136229679
>not Vamirio
why
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>>136231089
Magi and World God Only Knows off the top of my head.
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>>136235302
Is announcer-chan one of the four kings? She shows up for the strategy meeting and no one comments on it.
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>>136234263
Also the Dragon Emperor probably has lightning powers.
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>>136236350
>lightning

You mean Earth?
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>>136236300
She's one of the Four Management Staff. She said so herself, anon.
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>>136225459
Did you guys see this coming? What a revelation!
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>>136236418
Why is water black and earth yellow?
So many levels of wrong in that pic. Metal should also be gray.
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>>136236587
Because that's the actual color representing the elements?

Black Turtle is water.
Green/Azure Dragon is wood.
Red/Vermilion Phoenix is fire
White Tiger is Metal.
Yellow Dragon/the Emperor is Earth.
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>>136234729
Only place I can find the word elf used is in the summary for the manga.
>Elf "Vamirio", one of the four Great Kings of the whole Demon Empire, cannot believe in this.
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>>136236350
>>136236418
>Implying the Emporer of the massive Demon Empire can only use one element.

He will be able to use all of them and some kind of special OP as fuck Dragon only magic as well.

I mean the guy is in charge of the strongest nation for a reason.
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>>136235983
Ah I see. I mean yeah he got the short end of the stick I guess, but so did everyone on the poster. They had to fight Helck after all.
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>>136236646
Is it written by the author or is it just the summary written by the site?
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>>136234729
>>136236646
I can solve this mystery easily

Fact: Elves are for raping
Q: Is Vamirio for raping?
A: No, Vamirio is for loving.
Conclusion: Vamirio is not an elf.
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>>136236651
His scale might just be much larger though. We have no idea how they erect barriers so far, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Emperor was responsible for most if not all of them.
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>>136231089
>>136231012

Take heart, fellow anons. We'll use meme-magic to grant Helck an anime, just like we did with Watamote.

Everybody grab your cameras and whip 'em out/spoiler]
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>>136236640
Sorry I'm stuck with Pokemon's color representation of elements.
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>>136236418
Earth in Chinese myths, especially in martial arts related stuff is commonly associated with lightning.
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>>136236651
We're saying that because the Yellow Dragon is also one of the elements. If Vermillion and Azure exist and have their standard elements, there's no reason he wouldn't be earth.
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>>136234263
>>136233351
Tooru = Tora = Tiger?
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>>136225721
Helck is real family name.
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>>136236418
Lightning is Earth.
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>>136236970
Nah he wasn't one of the Heavenly Kings. he was just another Demon King.
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>>136225721
Heclk is the Herac- part of Heracles, finished by Cless.
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>>136236905
>>136236977
Lightning has been associated with Earth quite a lot. But sticking true to the original, earth is not lightning.

Lightning's appearances are usually as a punishing force, sometimes related to Taoism.
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>>136237061
I'm just saying, if he represents Earth, his methods of attack are probably going to be Lightning. Especially since he's a Dragon.
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>>136237061
Nobody said Earth is lightning. Just that the Dragon will probably have lightning powers. Since Earth is very commonly associated with being able to zap people.
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>>136222383
Nice deathflag there, Vamirio.
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>>136234921
Well, unlike the time travel theory, it's at least not completely baseless. We know that the Empire is a union of 15 different kingdoms. It's plausible that each kingdom was a different race, so the Empire's population is now a mix of those original 15.
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>>136236970
Tooru is one of the ways they pronounce Thor, and the higher ups seem to have god names.

If the Four Heavenly Kings continue to take their English names, we could make predictions on what gets derived from White Tiger and Black Tortoise to pass the time.

The tricky part is how much ends up engrish. Hydra in Japan is pronounced like Hyudora, hence Hyura. Kerberos becomes Keruberos, hence Ruberos the dog man with hand puppets.
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>>136238322
Personally I find that the engrish makes it more enjoyable than just slapping on the names 1:1 style. It certainly fits the silly art style that the Demon Empire has going for them.
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>>136238424
True. Also if we went by engrish rules, you can derive Brutus from the Black Tortoise and that's a badass name outside the potential for betrayal.
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One of the biggest mysteries is what Doruushi is derived from. While most of the other civilians have Greek creature names, he's the team oddball who looks and acts thematically off. The shaved head and meditation barrier powers make me think he's one of the Asian-themed ones instead.
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Vamirio a shit
Anne from management a best
Prove me wrong
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the time travel theory would explain the weird bullshit the had to sail thru to get back, though would the locating magic work? but the whole forcing Piuy on her and with the stunning reveal we know Vamiro is a master of disguise and bluffing and could easily fool Anne from management.
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>>136220450
Anon you're just autistic. Anne from elite 4 is a strong permaloli, of course she wouldn't cry like a bitch like us middle aged old men.did.
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>>136231089
Ura Sunday is different from Weekly Shounen Sunday.
Weekly Shounen Sunday has all the big series like Conan, Kenichi, Inuyasha and etc. Noname manga get sent to the sister publication Ura Sunday magazine.
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>>136233432
I think they just want their softcore porn get more recognition in hopes of anime or some shit.
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>>136239978
Like it or not, mindless and casual stories are much easier to keep up with on a weekly basis. Everybody looks for comfortable consistency on some level whether they admit it or not.

Helck gained an advantage with us English speakers thanks to Rello presenting it all at once, but that's going away once we catch up. It's a pretty good series. Let's hope the fanbase doesn't immediately dry up.
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>>136238775
I can't. Vamirio has barely showed up anymore since the beginning while Anne-chan has pretty much become the main heroine of the story. Vamirio was probably just an irrelevant gag character from the start whom the author quickly forgot.
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>>136221706
>he becomes Jesus
Helck has strong enough shoulders to bear the burden
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Reminder that Helck wont be able to protect Annes frown
He also wont be able to protect piwi
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>>136240233
Yuusha trap is actually good and has been consistently funny 40chapters in.
It doesn't lose to Helck at all. Sadly the comedy for Helck has dried up and it failed to put me at stitches like in the beginning. With the flashback over, I hope we are back onto the comedy train.
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Puiy is a bird right
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>>136240468
>>136234610
>Piwi
It's ピウイ. Pi-u-i. Piuy.
Piwi is ピウィ
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>>136240933
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AD%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A4%E3%83%95%E3%83%AB%E3%83%BC%E3%83%84
Spellings vary.
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>>136240776
No, he isn't. What made you think he was?
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>>136240393

The most recent chapter revealed that Anne IS Vamirio.

I thought they might be related, but I didn't expect them to be the same person.
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Why don't they kill the king, move the empire, and have the awakened humans fight the monsters?
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>>136241569
Any massive movement of the people's empire would be taken as an invasion by the neighborhood country which will turn in more wars.
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>>136241569
Humans will go berserk.
I Still think this is better than letting king ressurect them
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>>136241569
Ditch 15 countries and hope flying superhumans and the bigger threat up north don't hunt you down?
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>>136241568
It's clearly a mislead. Mark my words. It'll turn out that Anne only thought she was Vamirio in the end. No way they can be the same person. It just doesn't make sense.
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>>136240529
The most important aspect to Helck is mot for it's comedy, but it's build up and fleshing out characters. It creates many likable characters with their own aspects and having a deep, rich story that continues to impress me. Therefore, I feel that Helck is the greater manga when it comes to the story.
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>>136241700
This. Some high ranking leaders have lookalikes acting as body doubles whose job is to pretend to be them. And Anne has all of Vamirio's mannerisms down.
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>>136241704
Both Yuusha ga Shinda! and Helck are great fantasy adventure manga but for different reasons.
>>
Rello? Where are you?
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>>136241700
>"I am Vamirio and so are you."
>>
What is this Anne is Vamirio joke come from?
are you guys just pretending to be stupid.
Is it just one of those memes?

Why would a girl from management be one of the four knights?
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>>136242181
>Helck is a half-naked companion who was formerly aligned with the enemy
>Accompanied by an animal companion and is coincidentally represented by them in character too
Hmm.
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>>136242190
You'll be surprised with last chapter's reveal.
>>
I enjoy reading Helck immensely if I imagine it as a reinterpretation of the plot of Dark Souls
>>
Has there been any foreshadowing for Anne = Vamirio?
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>>136242618
No, it was a complete asspull.
>>
r>>136242392
I like to imagine it's prelude to undertale. only to make everyone on /v/ angry.
>>
It must really suck for rello to have such a shitty audience.
>>
>>136242959
The anons accompanying helck threads are just like the demon empire people: some are shit, but most are nice people.
>>
>>136223187
>>136222383
Guiding light end confirmed?
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>>136242959
Stop being shit then.
>>
>>136232500
So is it possible that battle was the moment the archsage realised Cress' power could be used to "corrupt" others into awakening?
>>
>>136236977
Yep. Technically, most of the time, the electron flow in a landed lightning goes from the earth to the clouds.
>>
>>136239978
>>136240233
>>136241704
Delusional Helckfag is delusional.
>>
>Card and castle building challenge
>They thought Helck would be bad at it but he's actually really good at it.
>"Crap, this was actually his specialty!"
>A Number of chapters later, turns out he was a laborer and worked on the human castle building and refortification

This manga man.
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>>136243842
>>Helck is only this popular because of an advantage
>Delusional Helckfag
You're dumb.
>>
Anne-chan turning out to be someone special ruins my theory that she was the demon equivalent of a hero, someone seemingly a normal part of management but explaining why she is so powerful.
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I want to molest Anne-chan from management.

Is this normal?
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>>136244167
Well she is supposedly an elf.
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>>136243955
Hah! Damn, man.
>>
Notice how nice and comfy the series was until they started finding themselves in human territory? You think we'll get that back once Anne and Helck get back to the empire.
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>>136244200
She is supposedly not.
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>>136244287
>they started finding themselves in human territory
In other words, chapter 2.
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>introduced as an extreme parody of those supposedly powerful good characters who are too busy dying from an incurable illness or something like that to do anything productive
>ends up as the best bossu
No wonder the Empire is still great and kicking even after thousands of years, Demons sure know how to find the right people to manage it.
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>>136245576
how does he feel about anne being stronger than him
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>>136245512
Wasn't that chapter 3? But yeah, that was the chapter where it became obvious that there's some creepy stuff happening.
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>>136245671
>anne
Do you mean Vamirio?
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>>136245706
She's obviously just lying so Helck won't tell her boss that she's slacking off on her office duties.
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>>136245671
Well, even Vamirio said that with the right conditions Azudora is the strongest member of the Four Kings, trying to fight this guy in the human world where plants are everywhere would be almost impossible. He is pretty much limited by the fact that his territory almost has no plants, also I am pretty sure that the roots trick used against the winged soldiers is just a basic attack.
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>>136245576
Has Vamirio's dungeon adventure been translated yet?
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>>136245576
I suppose that he is the oldest and wisest member of the Four Heavinly Kings. I wonder if they have a most violent guy in the group, Valmirio was talking about attacking humans, but only because they attacked first, but the thing is there is one of them that hates human as much as humans hate them, the Akainu of the group for saying an example.
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>>136245786
Fire> Plants. She is just trying to be nice.
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>>136228990
Make America Great again.
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>>136246001
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>>136245786
It was Hon the secretary who said that, I think.

>>136246060
Vamirio-chan is the most kindest and most responsible. Another good example of Demons (or their leadership) knowing who they should put in charge.
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>>136246216
It is obvious that the demon empire does not have a caste system like the humanity or even any racism even with their diverse range of races. I mean a filthy blue elf is their fucking brigade leader.
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>>136246216
I want to feed Vamirio-chan a home cooked meal every day for the rest of their life.
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>>136246216
Hon said it, but Valmirio said it too in this page, the thing is that Azudora power depends too much of external factors that he can only control if he has time to prepare traps and put plants around the kingdom.
The fact that he lives in a toxix wasteland without almost natural plants (he had to put them personally) plays against him, in the Human World he would be a beast.
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>>136219066
Just like in real life
>>
demon kings are relatively mid ranked

so where is that high ranked emperor and his #2
northern lands?
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>>136246060
I want to protect that frown.
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>>136246672
Most likely with the other soldiers fighting the other non-human problems.
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>>136246672
Considering Azudora think of the awakened heroes as a C rank threat while northern seens far stronger That's probably it.
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>>136246731
I suppose that the Dragon emperor is in the capital with his two guardians, while one of the remaining members of the Four Kings is fighting the northen enemies with a pretty big army, Azudora said that the 60% of the Empire Troops are there fighting
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>>136246672
Yes. The northern land is the Helck version of white walker. They are strong as fuck considering they are classified as SSS which is equivalent to an army of hero like Helck.
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>>136245786
Depends on whether or not there's anything special going on with the trees in the Empire's territory. For example, it could be like the Sacred Tree from Nanatsu no Taizai. The fairies can control any kind of plant life to fight, but the Sacred Tree is just humongous, can regenerate from damage quickly, and can grow to attack however its controller wants.

So even if Azudora can control any kind of tree or plant life, if his power is to only control it and not impart some kind of special quality to it, trees in other territories might not be that special.

That's only his First Ability anyway. He also seems to have other talents.
>>
This shit was a great read; can anyone recommend a similar manga? Bonus points if it's finished.
>>
>>136247952
ruler of the land
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>>136231651
So they've got overrated normalfag memeshit like Mob Shitco, what else?
>>
>>136248206
Simabd no Bouken and the series about undergound fights.
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>>136248265
It's at least quite self-aware, being called sin bad.
>>
WHERE IS RELLO
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>>136248975
It's been 20 hours since his last post. He's dead.
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