Mate, we need one more guy for our orgy. Join us?
What a cutie.
What happens to her again?
The assassin gets interrupted but did the manga showed what became of her?
Blood thirsty nip barbarians. Just like WW2 all over again.
That japanese girl will never get it given to her as good as when she was in the expert hands of an alpha gaijin prince. He knows how to give it good; just ask the bunny after she's stopped orgasming.
From the LN spoilers I read,
she becomes a journalist and ends up arguing with the media that cross the Gate looking to blame the SDF for something. After that I don't know what happens to her.
I want to marry Hamilton.
Japs are a bunch of savages
NEVER FORGET PEARL HARBOR & BATAAN
>That japanese girl will never get it given to her as good as when she was in the expert hands of an alpha gaijin prince.
It is canon that the prince is a premature ejeculator. The bunny queen had to fake all her orgasms to make him feel better.
Japs just mad they don't know real Roman
So I am only watching the anime and I have a question.
So she and her boyfriend + 1 other were kidnapped before the episode 1 invasion we saw last season?
How many other people were kidnapped?
Why is the rabbit such a slut for the bitch-ass prince?
I too miss her
I think the ones mentioned in the episode are the only ones confirmed so far. Noriko, Hiroki, that other guy who might not actually appear in the anime and maybe a couple of others (I think the Senate meeting in the novel metioned five or six total, but I could be remembering wrong).
Rory a cutest
tfw her only relevant appearance
So Prince Asshole's mooks all get BTFO, but the asshole himself gets to live?
That's all kinds of fucked up. Why not kill the actual bad guy instead, and let the mooks who're just doing their job live?
Following that line of thinking, just shoot the damn Emperor dead already, he's the one that started the whole thing by invading through the Gate.
Damn straight, son.
Not exactly. The fact that it was born 50 years early was deliberate, though. As for who, remember that there's more than one demi-god in the world other than Rory.
Because they were armed and would've killed everyone on his command, even Kuribayashi had killed him first. He wasn't armed, and killing an unarmed political figure is generally bad press and difficult to hush up.
Last page of Chapter 44. This one is 45.
Killing one of the crown princes is generally a bad idea politically mate. Though in this scenario, Japan would be able to get away with it, except press wise. What would the Empire do? Even a pathetically small force like Japan can ass-rape their entire city harder than psycho bunny princess
It was a good move on their part, considering the overwhelming firepower of Japan in the anime. The opponents must be reminded that even though Japan is pursuing peace-talks, that doesnt mean they cant burn their entire country to the ground
>political and PR considerations are going to keep Prince Asshole and the emperor alive
So the bad guys who are doing bad shit don't even get punished? Seems to me like the humiliation of defeat isn't punishment at all, though it's obviously not a reward, either.
>asshole politicians live
>innocent guards die
Welcome to brutal politics anon
Here in the 3rd world, its not uncommon for crooked politicians to send hitmen against their rivals
If the Japanese thought they could get away with trampling the Empire they could've bombed the Imperial Palace and the Senate in the first week of entering the Gate, imposed martial law, and have the entire Empire become a Japanese territory by the end of the month. That's not what they're going for, they're trying to win the people of the Empire over, not crush it underneath their feet.
The first four or so LNs were translated, but the guy who did it was working from the Chinese publication and there aren't anymore Chinese volumes so it's kind of dead in the water at the moment.
The uniform often hides their true size.
Paveway is best way.
Look at it this way, all their ego stroking is based on principles America introduced post-WW2. All that "civilians first" and "treat prisoners right" feel-good shit is entirely and 100% because of America.
So think of it as looking on your children with pride as they follow in your footsteps and deliver freedom to savage foreigners.
When you put it like that, it's a lot more satisfying to watch, I think.
>That's not what they're going for, they're trying to win the people of the Empire over, not crush it underneath their feet.
Not to mention they have no interest in "nation building" an Iraq2.0 the size of Russia. The Empire is the sole superpower in the Gate world, and removing it would cause rebellion and civil war continent-wide.
You know what's the funny thing? The show tried to make us pity with the rape victim, hate the rapist and admire the JSDF for their righteous action. And it comes from a country famous for rape camps along with other war crimes.
There isn't a single modern superpower that doesn't have a nasty history when it comes to human rights. The point that Suguwara wad making was that despite having a shameful history, society in the modern world has improved, including Japan.
Pina will never plead with you to stay with her.
Luckily America gave them a good dose of freedom. Now the japs are just giving the savages a dose of freedom. Give it 70 years and those savages will be giving a dose of freedom to some other savages.
Thanks to glorious america, the world becomes a more free and righteous place.
Reminder that the JSDF would be rat food before the Skaven.
No, just one slave in particular.
And as a warning in relation to what the Emperor said to them. They were reminding him that even though they want peace that they could wipe them out at any time.
Did you actually read it or did you read "spoilers"?
I mean, it seems a bit of a leap of logic to blame the SDF.
You can blame the goverment for not sending a rescue mission earlier but the SDF is basically following orders.
>Blood thirsty nip barbarians. Just like WW2 all over again.
Let's be honest, if this was the US they'd have sent in a Seal Squad + the CIA, rescued the hostages, deposed the emperor and set up either a puppet goverment after bombing the hell out of the capital
>B-But the gate isn't big enough
(not even sure if that is that case by the way)
I'm not even a yank but I am pretty sure the US would have created entire factories on the other side of the gate just to build fighter jets (or would have sent over a modified "lego" version in pieces and rebuilt it on the other side).
Regardless, Japan is not as innocent as the manga tries to portray them (the manga definitely shows that there are some questionable decisions made in that regard but plays it as "the end justifies the means" rather than "self-defense")
The F4 phantom is the most attractive girl in this show. She may have the aerodynamics of a lopsided brick but she looks fucking good with that sturdy yet streamlined chassis, perky wingtips, and tight engines accentuated by the curvacious tail section. Nothing can compare to phantomchan.
You telling me you wouldn't a raifu as well?
That delicious 7.62
And then they spit hilarious things like
>JSDF exist because we love our people
When basically the JSDF exist just because the rest of the world doesn't want the Japanese to have an army.
Its been over 70 years since the war, anon. That may have been the case at the time of forming it but Japan has undergone a complete cultural transformation over those 70 years. They are mostly committed pacifists and are happy with the SDF being a defense force.
Hell, just look at the crazy resistance that happened when Abe changed the remit of the SDF to be able to join in foreign operations.
>Hell, just look at the crazy resistance that happened when Abe changed the remit of the SDF to be able to join in foreign operations.
A lot of that resistance may have been from pacifists but they also got joined by people who considered that the way Abe pushed those reforms down the Japanese population's throats was borderline inconstitutional and deifnitely not respecting the proper legislative etiquette.
Think of it as "if he's willing to basically sidestep formalities for things where he has a slight majority what would he be willing to do to push down a policy where he definitely is in the minority"
Ok, this propaganda is getting really cringy. I liked it better when they were just killing everyone.
Admittedly, the US treated its own population (Japanese internment camps) worse than their German and Japanese POWs.
You use the POWs to extract useful intel and it is easier to do so (or at least was in the 40s) by treating them well.
Civilians are, in the eyes of the military, often just collateral damage, even to this day if you look at drone attacks.
Still, the reaction in the anime is more American than Japanese. Japan recently had journalists executed by ISIS and the politician's and population's reaction was "what the fuck were they doing in Syria, they were asking to get killed"
Then again, in Gate it's basically people who happened to be shopping in Tokyo so they'd probably not blame the victims there.
And despite those "crazy resistance", Article 9 still being "reinterpreted" anyway. Abe's success proved only far-right politicians like him could properly lead Japan, so it's just a matter of time before they can get a real army and deploy that army oversea again.
>Ok, this propaganda is getting really cringy.
just think of the source material as a military otaku's wish fulfillment fantasy, the same way as SAO is for /v/ermin
>I liked it better when they were just killing everyone.
... and it seems like to have worked on you at the very least. Sign up at the nearest JSDF recruitment centre!
GATE has turned into some brutal shit, Where is my cute drunk Rory moments?
>Then again, in Gate it's basically people who happened to be shopping in Tokyo so they'd probably not blame the victims there.
Somehow I get the feeling if this thing happens for real, they will still find a way to blame the victims, like "why were only them get kidnapped out of all others, obviously because they were some kind of misfits", "why didn't they killed themselves to protect Japan's pride?" or something.
We treated captured nazis to four years of summer camp and free barbecues. The ones who had to go back to the Soviet occupation zone fought to stay here. Most said it was the time of their lives.
The japs usually killed themselves before we could capture them, the crazy fuckers.
You can bitch anything you want about this series, but you can't deny that most, if not all, the relevant and secondary girls has those badass moments. Even Tuka, Lei Lei and Yao had their moments, counting also badass Rory
From they way Gate people behaved, I think it's safe to assume they are mostly simple-minded, harmless farmers who just want to live their life and will willingly cope with anyone who can give them a better life. Even though there are religions inside the Gate, people don't really treat them seriously, there is no jihadist who believes killing every infidel is a religious duty they must achieve at all cost and will happily die doing it. Since those people have nothing like religion or nationalism to unite them against a foreign occupying force, a nation building plan may work quite well there.
>people don't really treat them seriously, there is no jihadist who believes killing every infidel is a religious duty they must achieve at all cost and will happily die doing it
So what do you call those bandits attacking Italica and welcoming the killing of both the citizens and of themselves in the name of the deathgod
I've been wondering about something. I'm sure they're very well trained, but the JSDF can't have much if any experience since it's mandated to not get involved in things.
That being said, while I can usually buy them as very effective just because they're a modern army, the but with the force recon guy was a bit much.
Wasn't it mentioned that the Gate has opened to Earth before and the current empire is created by earthlings wandering in. So I don't think those gods care that much about foreign forces occupying Gate world.
>I'm sure they're very well trained, but the JSDF can't have much if any experience since it's mandated to not get involved in things
This is a problem, the Chinese army has had the British training them for this reason. As do American forces train the Japanese.
If the whole continent collapses into a bunch of warring states that is a good thing for them because it means there is no united direction to oppose them. It's not like Iraq where they care about putting in place a liberal democracy i.e. nation building, they really are just here to seize and personally control natural resources. Bring down the Empire, and while the barbarian kings are fighting each other they can easily carve out their own territory with mortars and missiles warning everyone else to stay away and pick on easier targets instead.
>Wasn't it mentioned that the Gate has opened to Earth before and the current empire is created by earthlings wandering in.
Nah, the only other time Gate opened on Earth is rendered non-canonical, And it was in recent history.
The likely explanation for them being Romanlike is because they are all alternate Earths.
>If the whole continent collapses into a bunch of warring states that is a good thing for them because it means there is no united direction to oppose them
In case you forget, the Japanese HATE military spending. So unlike the US the Japanese taxpayers would rather that there be a peace treaty and commencement of commerce. Building a new empire is what Americans would want but they are not Americans. The citizens have no taste for eternal war.
So they get other countries to play aggressors, gotcha.
But what about the non combat aspects? Setting up shop in a foreign country and trying to deal with locals, and such. Because generally modern militaries have a much tougher time with that than with actual combat.
I'm sure military spending would be much, much higher if the empire gets its shit together and launches a new major military campaign against the Japanese while now armed with a fuller knowledge of Japanese military capabilities than before, than if Japan had a secure border and directly controlled territories in the Special Region that only has to deal with the occasional disorganized bandit attack because the fragmented warlord states will never dare to use their meager strength to attack Japan.
Remember what they said about peace being simply a preparation for the next war? Empire isn't going to be content to sit on its ass forever. War and conquest is ingrained in their culture, you can't make them desire peace and stability. Now they are concerned about survival, but give them a few years to recover and their thoughts will turn to retribution.
Even so, is there anything in the LN implies that the gods care about human. To me, it looks like they doesn't, since every god there rules over some aspect and as long as the conditions of that aspect are fulfilled, they are cool. Like Rory's god of death, as long as there are people die, regardless who they are, it's enough.
>Building a new empire is what Americans would want
I'm really not so sure about that, to be honest. In times gone by sure, but the American public generally opposes having to have their military occupy places because of the trouble that's caused in the past, and I can't really see any recent president straight up invading a country and annexing it. At most they'd set up a leadership amenable to them.
For all the really shady stuff the US and CIA have gotten up to though, they're portrayal here still seems too cartoonish. The US might be powerful enough to not need to care about foreign relations, but that still doesn't mean they'll engage in really blatant attempts to abduct foreign dignitaries .I can't see Russia and China doing this either, to be honest, but them I can see empire building. America just seems like a stretch.
>Even so, is there anything in the LN implies that the gods care about human
They care enough to stop major disasters like Earthquakes. Remember that Rory was mad and was about to blame Hardy for the shaking. So clearly gods CAN cause Earthquakes, they just don't. And it appears they have been actively suppressing them too. The quake that is happening now is directly plot related.
>The US might be powerful enough to not need to care about foreign relations, but that still doesn't mean they'll engage in really blatant attempts to abduct foreign dignitaries
That's where you miss an important detail; Pina's presence in Japan is suppose to be a secret, and as such she does not legally exist. The only reason the kidnapping is attempted is because Pina has no offcial diplomatic protection on paper.
This is also why the end result is both sides covering it up. Japan pretend the agents were never there, and America pretends that Pina was never there.
I thought it wasn't Pina they were attempting to abduct, but all of the people from the Gate, being a follow up to their 'Hey, bring them to out country, we have candy' request.
Still not something I can see even the most hawkish modern president okaying.
>So they protect their world's inhabitants' life. But do they care who is the guy in charge, because if not, there is no problem with a nation building plan.
In general the Gate Gods have no problem with Japan conquering the Gate world. However the point is the Japanese people are not interested in spending that kind of money. The goal is to get a peace treaty with the Empire and get reparation through mining rights. Keeping the Empire together is easier to deal with, no need to build infrastructure from scratch. It is the cheaper option.
You guys have any interest in a GATE quest on /tg/ ?
Because I'm seriously considering doing a GATE Quest in which you must freedom the SHIT out of the Empire under the good old banner of Uncle Sam and apple pie.
I don't think so. I agree with this >>136204083. To me, it looks like the author is trying to play smart, saying "Hey, look, we Japanese are smart, we learn from the US's stupid mistakes and won't repeat them". But he failed to understand the only reason the US's plan failed was because of the warmongering and religious nature of the ME people. They're willing to die fighting infidels occupying their holy land, without a care about how their life became better thank to the US. Unlike those Gate farmers, they don't really want a better like, they sincere desire is to live under a theocratic regime ruled by strict religious law according to their holy book. They can't be reason with, so to keep the region stable, you need strong dictators who actually understands his country to keep everything under control. But this can't be applied for the Gate world. Breaking the empire into many small nations and only maintaining military force to secure area with resources are much cheaper.
statute of limitation. Nobody cares. its WAR, not lets all be friends who care about feelings. Maybe if those other countries didnt want to get treated like shit then they should have fought harder, HMMMMMM. Blame the countries that failed to defend their people.
Most of the army is already obliterated, senators saw what men in green are capable off and 'hearts and minds' campaign of JSDF resulted in many simple people of empire actually liking them instead of wishing them harm.
Pina is just one princess. Even if she can suppress all oppositions who want to overthrow her to make their revenge on Japan, can she live forever? Or can she make sure all of her descendants will follow her will?
I think it'd be quite interesting to see how America might do things differently than Japan in this sort of scenario.
Especially when you discover things like American Citizens being captured as slaves.
God fucking damn can you even IMAGINE the backlash from that if it got out? How completely and utterly FUCKED the Empire would be?
Mate, there are elves, white and brown, loli mages, goddesses of death and animal girls of any kind and you pick boring human that could probably snap you in half with her bear hands?
So this show deliver the wrong message. It's not the prince's fault, but the SDF's for not being able to protect Noriko, her boyfriend and her family. She should grab a gun and shoot as much SDF soldiers as possible whenever a chance appears then.
>But this can't be applied for the Gate world. Breaking the empire into many small nations and only maintaining military force to secure area with resources are much cheaper.
The manga explain the situation better. Basically, removing the Empire would be the equivalent of the United States government disappearing overnight. The entire civil structure of the Gate world is built around the Empire, and as such anarchy would take place as multiple warlords would become independent.
Japan has no intention to fight multiple wars. They prefer to fight ONE war, with the Empire, and end it. Destroy the Empire means the war will continue for decades and the tax payers have no intention of paying for that.
If the US federal government were to vanish there is still a framework of the state governments to fall back on.
Anyway, if the Empire were to fragment into a motley collection of barbarian kingdoms, Japan will by no means have to fight multiple wars against them all. On the contrary, independent warring states would prefer to attack each other than to attack Japan. It's not like they need or want Japan's oil, and their military might is pitiful compared to that of a united empire. At worst they will have to shoot at the occasional bandit party on the edges of their territory, and those will quickly learn to stay away and go after easier pickings instead.
The united empire is the only entity that could have the means and motive to take on Japan.
I would too, hell we all would.
Bunny girls, bird girls, fox girls, elves, everything you could ever want, all you have to do is point a gun at a bunch of fucking savages and deliver FREEDOM.
“The greatest happiness is to scatter your enemy, to drive him before you, to see his cities reduced to ashes, to see those who love him shrouded in tears, and to gather into your bosom his
wives and daughters.”
>At worst they will have to shoot at the occasional bandit party on the edges of their territory, and those will quickly learn to stay away and go after easier pickings instead.
Japan has NO INTENTION of setting up colonies in the GATE world. The funding does not allow for that. Stop trying to assume that the JSDF can spend the money and ask for permission later, they are not the US. It was already a politial hot potato that they were allowed to go above the 1% GDP spending limit that the nation imposed on itself, don't assume the JSDF has unlimited funds.
If they really want to deal with their problems once and for all, breaking the empire is in their best interest. No one can guarantee the empire won't strike back once there's a competent leader to lead them. Any treaties they sign with the empire will become as valid as garbage once they think they can have a chance to fight back. Keeping such large empire intact without setting up a puppet regime to rule over it is like keeping a wild beast near you and expecting it to not bite you. But if they become small warring state, they will fight among themselves, but no one will ever fight the SDF, since they don't have the guts and power to do so. Japan's war will be over by then. All they need will be protect their territory from bandits.
Why don't japan just genocide the inhabitants beyond the gate, steal all their material and mineral deposits and then set about world conquest? They're pussyfooting around a bit currently.
Then did you even read what I wrote? Since Japan only needs resources inside the Gate, all they need is setting up bases to protect their oilfields and mines, similar to Anus base.
Everyone seems to be forgetting the fact that Japan's ultimate goal is to cut themselves off from the rest of the world and rely solely on the Special Region. And if they really want to do that then it helps for there to be a stable administration and infrastructure that they can quickly seize control in a single swoop when the time comes, instead of some kind of Three Kingdoms setup or clusterfuck of warring states.
>all they need is setting up bases to protect their oilfields and mines
You need colonists to drill the oil and mine the ore, you idiot. That is why Japan isn't going that way, they would rather have the Empire on side to maintain the local police, the legal system, and land rights.
>Japan's ultimate goal is to cut themselves off from the rest of the world
Why would they do that? That would literally kill their economy. Their population wouldn't die from hunger and they would have a lot of land to live, but that sounds like a commie dream more than anyting.
>Not really, just hire Italica residents to do it and pay them with toilet paper and contraceptives.
You are going to need to set up a replacement government for that.
Look, this shit is complicated and expensive. Britain managed to make money but Spain messed up and went bankrupt trying to get rich off South America. It is not EASY, even if you have military superiority.
>I thought he'd be a lunatic who'd pursue further conflict. Which begs the question, why did he attack in the first place?
Because that's how the ancient world support large armies. It is literally impossible for the Empire to not attack "somebody", because if they don't they don't get new loot, and they would run out of gold to pay the soldiers. And the soldiers would become restless and rebel. Real life Rome had that happen many times.
Communism has nothing to do with it, it's just a long cherished dream of all Asian countries - to be superhumans and rule over subhumans. See China and Japan politics of isolationism and other shit, and who always think of themselves as a center of the universe.
>That's what I don't understand. What makes they think they can defend Tokyo from a international coalition?
Japan is capable of becoming a nuclear power in 6 months or something like that. They just choose not to.
>Doesn't Italica already have it's own government that is willing to lick the SDF's foot?
It could not survive if the entire area fll into anarchy. Food production would be devastated and crime would become the default. The entire GATE world had already built its civilization around the Empire, removing the Empire removes the civilization.
If we are talking about natural resources such as oil it would be a huge windfall since it would be cheaper than having that shipped and gauged by the oil cartel. That doesn't mean they would stop exports. That would be stupid. The biggest car companies are Japanese after all. Theres no point selling it to not-romans for many years yet.
I thought the people around that area whom the JSDF first made contact with more or less got by on their own and didn't really care about the Empire, they lived in contested territory that changed lords every so often anyway.
I think they can survive pretty well and even prosper if their neighbors and citizens know the mighty and generous green men are there to protect them. Citizens and kingdoms in Gate world held no loyalty toward the empire, as we can see.
There is pretty much no country out there that has really prospered by cutting itself off from the global trade economy. Mao's China was a shithole that only became an economic superpower after his cronies were deposed and Deng Xiaoping took over. North Korea is a joke that's being propped up by China. Japan during the sakoku period was left behind by the rest of the world even with limited contact with China and the Dutch. Communist Albania fell to pieces without Soviet or Chinese aid to keep them going.
Anon using US was a bad example since the independent states at least don't hate each other so much so as to immediately start wars. It would be more along the lines of what would happen if Israel's government disappeared and the barely maintained peace suddenly went to shit as everyone killed each other over religious and expansionist reasons. If the Empire falls, everyone is gonna make a move for power, either because they want to fuck everyone over and be the new Empire, or because they know the other assholes are gonna grind them into the ground otherwise.
You have the historical and political intelligence of a toddler. You could make the same superficial argument about Western countries and there would be a hell of a lot more evidence to back it up, but you would still be wrong.
If you had any awareness of postwar Japanese politics and public opinion, you would know that Japan as no desire to subjugate anyone else, to become a military superpower, or to cut itself off from the world. All they want is to secure their own long-term stability. They don't want to have to depend on the US for protection, or on China's good will for access access to shipping lanes, fisheries, and natural resources.
The arguable naivety regarding their own defense notwithstanding, in terms military and foreign policy goals modern Japan is probably the most reasonable in the history of nations.
What if they impose trade sanctions on Japan and refuse to buy any of their newly gotten gains until Japan opens up Special Region access to an international coalition? I'm sure the Americans wouldn't be too happy for Japan to be not buying anything from America but still selling to America in turn.
Putting aside imperialism, how would the Saudis react to Japan suddenly destabilizing the oil market with their new source of ultra-cheap crude? Right now in real life we have them already trying to overproduce and deliberately tank the price of oil just to keep oil alternatives off the stage.
Probably offer them a place in their cartel.
Iran was under sanctions for years. That doesn't mean they stop selling oil overseas.
At worst Japan would enter recession. Again.
>no sergeant at arms with a big mace to keep rowdy MP's in line
>or to remove the occasional kebab
How realistic are we getting? Because let's be honest, JDSF is just a stand in post-WWII American occupation forces, and the Empire is pre-WWII Japan. For someone who hates America so much, author sure as hell wants to be us pretty bad.
But of course this is all fictional as fuck. Assuming the gate didn't open in America instead of Japan, no one would want to divert the manpower and they'd literally just send weapons and money to NATO to do it. Commercial interests would take care of any exploiting of the other world, Government wouldn't involve themselves directly.
If it was in America though? We'd recon the other world and then send a drone to kill everyone in the imperial capital. Mission accomplished. Hell, now that I think about it we'd probably just send a bunch of drones in the first place even if it wasn't in America.
>trying to overproduce and deliberately tank the price of oil
have you looked at the price of oil?
This isn't the 50's. Use conventional weapons?against pre-gunpowder civilization and you'd have Not-romans lives matter movements in the streets.
Especially after they see furries.
Can you imagine goths, twilight fans and ponies marching to government buildings?
That scene bugged me so much.
Rather than just shooting a couple of guards, WHO ARE STANDING STILL AND NOT ACTUALLY ATTACKING, she just decides to kill fucking everyone.
Those guards would've been scared shitless if she just shot one or two of them
But hey, at least they treat their prisoners good, r-right? We'll just forget the family of the faceless mooks who literally dindu nuffin
>dudeweedlmao man is in charge and wants to bring in thousands of "refugees"
>years of deficit spending planned
>our dollar is currently $0.69 to 1 USD and dropping
dark times ahead for the north
>hurr durr "liberals"
Retarded fags like you are everything wrong with the world. I don't hate Trump because I'm a liberal, I hate him because he's a fucking shitbreathing attention whore. You're kidding yourself if you actually believe he has any actual political views beyond "whatever gets me attention." Also he has the same fucking lame gay haircut for the last 2 decades.
Those targets Pakistan are also muslim and lives in caves with goats.
The empire would be white, wearing togas and at least outside the capital have monster girl maids.
Who would you rather exist?
you're right I'll just wait for the new chapters.
I bet they had her in clothes and only a bit dirty, not bleeding and bruised.
>The empire would be white
Ah shit, you're right. I forgot about the racism thing. Alright, fair enough. I still think we'd send a drone to kill the imperial government, but I guess it would stop after that.
>I hate him because he's a fucking shitbreathing attention whore. You're kidding yourself if you actually believe he has any actual political views beyond "whatever gets me attention."
Real USA president material here.
>even manga thread full of /pol/ shitters and retarded murrica fags
>No one was shot before they started drawing swords.
And no one started drawing swords before some faggot without discipline who shouldn't be in the army in the first place started to beat the crap out of the prince
It's not like they even fucking attacked in the first place, the majority was standing still.
Not to mention the japs had their weapons drawn from the moment they even entered the building.
>Non of those people a threat from a gun anyway so aiming at them wouldn't deter them.
I'm pretty sure you just need to shoot at one or two of those soldiers to get your point across, not spray the fucking room until everyone is dead.
That's what happens the page before she pulls the trigger.
She attacks the ones that are making clearly obvious hostile advances towards her.
If she was truely bloodthirsty she would not have offered the chance for the unhurt ones to flee.
>I'm pretty sure you just need to shoot at one or two of those soldiers to get your point across, not spray the fucking room until everyone is dead
Premature. Attacking in formation like that makes it hard to see someone next to you. Ever see movies where a phalanx avances despite a hail of arrows?
>She attacks the ones that are making clearly obvious hostile advances towards her.
Standing still is "hostile advances" now. Alright.
>but the swords were drawn!
Gee, ain't that strange! Right after their fucking prince got attacked! I mean, it's not like the nips haven't been walking around with their weapons drawn this entire time, right?
>If she was truely bloodthirsty she would not have offered the chance for the unhurt ones to flee.
Can you take another look at that webm? I'm pretty sure that "spraying the room without pause" doesn't leave much room to offer anyone any fucking chances.
The entire scene was one big shitshow and completely goes against the self-fellating 'we r so moral u guys' message.
The anime made some pretty careless cuts, Itami only gives Kuribayashi the order to fire at will after Zorbal declares that he'll wipe out Japan and orders his goons to murder them all.
>Can you take another look at that webm? I'm pretty sure that "spraying the room without pause" doesn't leave much room to offer anyone any fucking chances.
To be fair, even in the anime she does tell them to drop their weapons. If anything she's slightly more professional than in the manga, where she's clearly getting off on slaughtering everyone.
>For someone who hates America so much, author sure as hell wants to be us pretty bad.
For the millionth time, the author is Japanese Right Wing, and that means he is in the PRO-US faction. But just because he is pro-US doesn't mean he wouldn't make his own nation look good.
Isn't there a picture or two of Lelei facing off against her sister in an argument? One was definitely from the LN, but the other might have been a color page.
I forgot to save the image but I'm pretty sure it was spammed a few times.
I don't understand why she went for HtH combat first and then jumped back to shoot them. Wouldn't shooting them in the first place settle the situation much faster?
And I get that the not-roman soldiers do not know modern tactics, but aren't they at least trained to use their swords?
I am Singapoor desu. Free Okinawa... Remember Nanking...Oh wait. Fuck Nanking, its full of commies now.
Humanity Fuck Yeah is best if more than 2% of humanity is actually involved.
The best Humanity Fuck Yeah stories have humanity putting aside their petty differences to skullfuck a common enemy.
Gate has 2% of humanity stomping all over less advanced fellow humans, and intentionally antagonizing the other 98% of humanity by keeping all the fun/sex slaves/oil for themselves.
>Barbaric empire attacks peaceful democratic nation out of nowhere, not knowing peaceful democracy actually completely outclasses empire
>democracy righteously defends itself
>Empire gets BTFO, only now realizing they have stepped on the tail of a manticore
The only way GATE could get any more hilarious is if Japan nukes the empire twice
Hamilton is probably the daughter of a lower ranked noble, or just a noble's daughter who was assigned to serve as Pina's direct subordinate/handmaiden, whatever they're called.
It was actually pretty common in Europe to have a noble's daughter closely serving the royal queen, empress, or princess.
>I don't understand why she went for HtH combat first and then jumped back to shoot them. Wouldn't shooting them in the first place settle the situation much faster?
It's pretty clear from the novels that the author just wanted an excuse to write about bayonet combat. Also that Kuribayashi is slightly sadistic and was clearly enjoying it.
On the other you could possibly justify it by the fact that the first guys were already too close and spaced out too much, to the point that firing at them carelessly could also result in a stray bullet hitting a bystander. The shield guards were neatly lined up in a row directly in front of her, by comparison.
>And I get that the not-roman soldiers do not know modern tactics, but aren't they at least trained to use their swords?
They were probably just Zorzal's personal lackies, lesser nobles or otherwise goons who managed to get in favour with the prince and got a cushy job at the palace instead of an actual difficult job in the army.
1. Roman tactics favor open warfare, rather than be split up in the woods and hills.
2. The fantasy-romans marched on the nippon invasion first.They weren't ready to talk.
3. Nips in GATE did capture/rescue the survivors including that king of Elba or whatever... and goblins... and ogres
Maybe, but someone could make the excuse that she only beat them cause of the gun. Getting up close proves that even the female japanese soldiers have superior combat abilities.
I got such a huge grin and erection in this scene.
Think I've found my fetish.
Not that anon but I hope the answer is no. That would be incredibly dumb, even for Gate.
How would he know how good those soldiers were? For all he knew those could be elite soldiers who know how to swing their swords.
Also, in the LN and manga it specifically mentions that some of soldiers manage to get into Kuribayashi's blind spot and they got shot by Tomita, who was covering her.
>But wasn't she in charge of that town they were fighting in last season?
The town's patriarch was killed in the war with Japan, and the heiress is too young. They were running the town in her stead to help organise defences against the marauders. Hamilton was put in charge because she as the most acumen, but she isn't officially any kind of leader. She is really Pina's secretary.
80 pound girl proceeds to kills experience swordsmen with a fucking rifle and bayonet.
She should have shot them from the very beginning.
Japs and their samurai shit gets annoying sometimes.
Are you serious?
So, she is going to risk her life and go physicial against a more seasoned fighter.
A modern soldier would get fucked by a roman soldier. let's not even mention that she is a 5 foot 80 pound woman.
Oh shit the prince got his ass CAPPED. Serves him right to get beat the fuck up, you don't mess with cute girls like that.
Every Gate thread is too /pol/ now. It was fine when it was just /k/, but now it's gotten out of hand.
I'm looking forward to the femdom doujins. Hiroe Rei, don't let me down now.
reminds me of L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle
She literally can't get a man to save her life. None of the spec ops guys want her and neither does Tomita.
The best chance she'd have would probably be a three-way relationship between Itami and Rory.
It's not her fault. How would you feel if you were Noriko and got captured by the romans, then subsequently beat-raped and your boyfriend sold off as a slave and killed? Oh not to mention your family is fucking dead.
The difference is that the Howa fires a reduced charge 7.62x51, because Japanese men don't have the physique to handle the full charge 7.62.
The muzzle velocity is around 150 m/s slower than a FAL.
I haven't read the manga but logically
It's only a matter of time before the empire gets their hands on a weapon and starts making their own pseudo rifles (in the style of their medieval culture), or maybe even harnessing magic and modern machinery to build even more devastating weapons. Eventually that world will be industrialized and everything will change. Also remember guys magic > science. If Rory was an enemy to Japan she could devastate Tokyo with ease. I mean she is a DEMIGOD after all.
Basically there are too many plotholes but its okay, I enjoy my medieval clashing with modern society anime with cute harem antics and adventures.
What if the dastardly Americans succeed and get some "Advisers" to the empire. Training their forces in modern combat and giving them the schematics for modern weaponry in exchange for oil and mineral rights?
The Empire don't ever modernise, and they're too dense to consider pursuing magic to help them. Lelei is the only one who develops a more advanced magic based on what she's learnt from the modern world.
And as for Rory, well, there are only 12 demi-gods in the entire world and lets just say that it proves entirely possible take one out with modern technology.
Or that. Eventually the war-hungry superpowers will force Japan get on its knees and give them GATE access, they'll bring nukes and start mining the shit out of the other world. Whether the empire lives on as some puppet government sucking america's dick or they just get blown the fuck out because literally no one gives a shit about them is still up for guessing though.
I think you may be drastically underestimating the ease of reverse engineering gunpowder. Without modern manufacturing capabilities (i.e. factories) mass producing anything is a labour and a half. And advanced technology is completely beyond their ability to grasp (hell, Lelei was under the impression that bullets use magic, and she's the most well read local on the subject).
More important than that, though, is the matter of doctrine and training. You can't just transition from medieval open warfare to modern asymmetrical battle in one night.
Next arc, or at least it should be. This is basically the summary for the whole arc, so mind spoilers:
Yao finds out about her and decides to fuck with her head by telling her the truth in the hope it will make Itami kill the Dragon
PTSD overload, she starts thinking Itami is her dad
Itami finally cracks under the pressure and, because the SDF can't actually condone the attack, goes out with his full harem and Yao
They find the Dark Elves who all have death flags hanging over their heads, Itami gives them all RPGs but they forget how to use them, they all die (the elves, that is) trying to kill the Dragon until Itami finally manages to lay down some C4, Lellei pins it down with Gate of Babaylon and Tuka sets the charges off with a lightning spell, blowing the fucker up.
It then turns out that another Demi-God working for Hardy was behind the Dragon waking early and incapacitated Rory off-screen. She also has two baby dragons on hand.
Itami grabs Rory and they all run the fuck away, get chased, and luckily the SDF, who had been tracking them the whole time, blow the shit out of the two dragons and bury the demi-god in rubble.
Tuka finally comes to terms with her dad's death, but still insists on calling Itami Dad because she's grown used to it.
This, basically. If they were to actually use guns to any effect, they'd need training. You don't just put guns in the hands of townsfolk and have them 'muddle through' guerrilla warfare on their own.
yep, agreed, it would be good to resolve this issue once and for all
How hard would you protect Hamilton from the degenerate fujoshits around her?
Modernization wouldn't happen overnight, that's why I mentioned it would be a slow (and clumsy) process where the romans attempt to adapt and learn more about the modern world's weapons. Eventually more discipline will be established, opening up efficiency and speeding up research. This would all be as a reaction/self defense measure as a result of being threatened as a country. Then again, this is assuming they won't be made irrelevant and just nuked to oblivion.
I sort of like GATE how it is now, being kinda cute/harem-y but also not just Outbreak Company. Telling the story in a more realistic way would result in GATE being much, much darker.
How does it feel being a nation of weebs in a weeb region?
It can happen fast enough with outside help, it's in the interests of the JSDF to prevent the empire from ever modernizing.
Look at China, basically no industry, completely agrarian society all the way up to the mid 1950's. The ability to manufacture domestic arms was non-existent outside of copying Soviet stuff.
True modernization happened at around 1980, and that was without an external existential threat.
If the Empire gets large scale help from a world power, and enough Earth to Gate logistics to bring in factory machinery wholesale, they can modernize to an acceptable level in 5 or so years. The bottleneck is developing their indigenous mining and refining facilities to produce enough quality materials to do modern manufacturing.
Itami gives them all RPGs but they forget how to use them
How hard is it really to use them? We didn't have this problem when we gave Stingers to the Afghans to use against the Russians
Part of the problem is that modernizing under the thumb of a military power with modern air power is basically impossible unless they explicitly consent to it. At any point, they can shut down your entire industrial development and burgeoning infrastructure from the sky and there's a fat lot of shit to be done about it. Even if they were permitted to industrialize to the point of mass-producing weapons and munitions to equip infantry for modern warfare and allowed to develop the tactics and expertise to train them, that still doesn't give them any answer to a means of making war that involves long range, guided explosive launched from supersonic aircraft. You end up with a middle east sort of situation, but without a millenium old militant religion and an entire population of fanatics and sympathizers willing to resist you at any cost just for the sake of appeasing their prophet-warlord, and without the benefit of being trained and funded by foreign military powers interested in pitting them against political opponents.
And 5.56 is underkill and has poor stopping power, specially at close distances. It's not always that the bullet tumbles inside the body. There was a couple of videoleak videos I saw some time ago of a guy being shot in the middle of his torso, just bellow his heart, he walks always and run to a policeman and starts to talk to him that he was shot. It took more than 2 minutes before he actually fell on the ground dizzy with blood loss. I wouldn't trust a 5.56 rifle to protect my life on such a short encounter.
6.5 grandel, 6.8 spc and even the old 7.62x39 are the ideal rifle rounds IMO.
>The difference is that the Howa fires a reduced charge 7.62x51, because Japanese men don't have the physique to handle the full charge 7.62.
This information was from the early 70s, average man height and build in japan has significantly increased since then. Specially on the military. It's not that uncommon to have japanese military man over 1.80cms height. Even so, with proper training, even a small girl like Kuribayashi could handle the recoil of a full power 7.62 nato round, although her maneuverability would be more limited as she would have to take extra care as to position her arm properly to absorve the recoil. A good quality rubber buttstock helps with this, as well as physical training to straighten the muscles of the arm.
>tfw you will never break the mighty Japanese spirit of an innocent young lady.
I mean, when the Japanese developed the Howa the small stature of the average Japanese recruit was the reason they reduced the powder load.
Now they use 5.56 like everyone else.
China got a lot of financial aid from the USSR following the end of the 2nd world war which allowed them to industrialize so rapidly. They also had the benefit of entire generations of social elite trained at British colonial schools that had been taught liberal arts and hard sciences all their life. The only thing that had been stopping China from wholesale industrialization prior to WW2 was that the rural majority was unwilling to forgo agrarianism and embrace a european-style industrial revolution at the expense of their ancestral land claims and way of life.
They were tricked, and then forced into doing so by Mao's regime, but China as a nation had all of the technology and education necessary to industrialize for almost a hundred years prior to the rise of communism.
They panic because they were trying to lay a C4 trap for the Dragon at its nest, and Rory was supposed to be outside watching for when it came back, but because she gets incapacitated they don't find out about the Dragon coming back until it lands right next to them. So in the confusion and panic they end up firing them without arming them first, some get killed by the blowback and some just straight up miss. It's all very embarrassing and brutal when they get murdered in horrible ways. The anime will censor all that though.
>The only thing that had been stopping China from wholesale industrialization prior to WW2 was that the rural majority was unwilling to forgo agrarianism and embrace a european-style industrial revolution at the expense of their ancestral land claims and way of life.
IIRC the Russian commoners didn't really give a shit about industrialization either. It was the intellectual elite and the military elite, who usually hated each other, who cared about European-style industrialization.
Actually I found really unrealistic for her to behave so naturally and even smile without any sign of PTD after being captured and raped for over an year.
Is it really a battle rifle though with the reduced load.
The muzzle energy of a standard 7.62 NATO is 3.3 KJ, while Howa is 2.4 KJ. 7.62x39 is 2.1 KJ and 5.56 is 1.7ish.
It's much closer to the intermediates rather than the full powered 7.62; it's missing a whole KJ of muzzle energy.
M855A1 pretty much solved every 'issue' with 5.56.
Dont believe everything the news says faggotron.
And secondly, dont defend people who would skin you alive and rape your family without a second thought and sleep peaceably the next day.
I'm hoping we see more broken expressions from her in future episodes.
People don't die instantly from gunshots, even from headshots. That's why you see so much of the whole shoot until they stop moving stuff go on.
>power+shot placement=true stopping power
>Not enjoying a good Bayonet charge
"Colour Seargent, what is that up there along the ridge line?"
"I do believe that is a faggot, sir"
Why school? Because school shootings? That's a bit of a stretch.
I'm pretty certain it's supposed to be Tomita in this shot, but it's easy to overlook it when it's just one panel.
Too bad rory actually behaves like a baba, otherwise I'd be all over her.
The PTSD comes a bit later, anon. Once that she has settled into some kind of normality it will strike.
She is probably still in a state of disbelief and shock. The gravity of what she went through will hit her a few weeks/months down the road.
If you want, otherworld humans are pretty bland when you've got cute rabbit girls and elves all over the show. Delilah is the cutest Otherword girl, followed by Myuute.
I honestly wish we could get Bernie vs. Donnie.
No, it is. The guy he's shooting is the guy in the bottom left panel here, the guy managed to get behind Kuribayashi. Like I said, it's easy to overlook, I only noticed myself after reading the LN version of the scene and then rereading the manga.
>Pina Co Lada
I wonder why is he using western sounding names for fantasy people.
I mean come on even nip writers can come up with something more creative than that.
Its the same as if I wrote a novel about aliens from another dimension with names like Tomoko and Sushi.
>I wonder why is he using western sounding names for fantasy people.
Because he has no experience with Western people in real life.
>I think Hamilton is a cute as fuck name for a girl
Everything about Hamilton is cute as fuck.
Also here, you can see him on the far left trying to get behind Kuribayashi.
Sanders will lose to Hillary, and Hillary will lose to Trump.
I am growing increasingly convinced that Gate is one of those stories based off someone's pen and paper rpg.
"Pina's brother comes in with a captive Japanese woman. He says-"
"I roll initiative. 20!"
"But you're in the emperor's throne room right now and it would be a grave diplomatic-"
"I'm just roleplaying my berserk flaw. I bayonet the first three guys and then spray bullets at everyone else. I roll to intimidate."
God how I wish America had a real Communist party, or even a genuine Socialist party.
All we have Left are some moderates like Bernie.
Meh, he'll do, I guess.
>we need one more guy for our orgy
>we need one more guy
The enjoyment of an orgy is inversely proportional to the amount of guys in it.
Unless you're neo-American
>genuine Socialist party.
Why? So you can laugh at them?
I live in the UK and good old Jezbollah has really given me some great laughs over the last months. He has turned the once mightly Labour party into a literal joke. The best part is that he knows it.