What do you use to read manga, /a/?

I typically use my eyes.

>>135917294
besides that and your brain and your hands and whatever your body has

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I use this.

>>135917785
A screen

>>135917995
>I read low quality scans from mangafox

>>135917181
My hands

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I use Honeyview.

>>135918036
Huh?

That projection, tho

Manga Rock

>>135917181
Microsoft Photo Gallery

Manga Storm on my phone.

I feel no point for reading manga on my computer since it wastes what little time I have on it to watch anime or shitpost here.

I usually download from Manga Traders and read using Windows Photo Viewer.
I tried creating a program in C# with better options, but I ran into problems with the zoom function, so I dropped the project since then.

Customized CDisplayEx.

>>135918206
manga storm is shite after they changed it so you have to go to a website to find manga

>>135919316
I find it a lot better actually. A lot of shit didn't show up on the lists, and the lists took forever to load.

>>135917982
This shit's not bad desu

>>135917294
>water-based lenses

Look at this faggot and laugh

>>135918745
>Customized
how so?

>>135917982
>It's on the play store
That means it's shit. Probably has tons of removed content, including a lot of ecchi or licensed series.

When will something like Mangawatcher come around that actually gets updated?

>>135917181
At my phone, I use Material Comic Reader.

At PC I'm defaulting to Faststone Image Viewer, but it can't read .zip volume tanks I downloaded from Madokami, so I have to extract first which is suffering.

>>135918168
I use this, though it doesn't seem to include licensed manga.

Acdsee 8 pro from 2006, the best version of the program even if it has some issues running.

mcomix is pretty gr8

I use PerfectViewer, if it's a substantial amount. If it's only one page then I don't bother to download and just read it in a web viewer, usually Batoto.

>this huge variety of answers
Okay, here's another question: Why? What is your criteria, what features do you like/

>all these people using shitty monetized mobile readers
Literally reddit.

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>>135918117
I second this. This probably the most minimal program you can get, but still has all the features needed to read manga archives, and using it as default jpeg/png viewer on my computer.

But does anyone know if there is a good Honeyview equivalent for Android devices?

I sort of can't figure out where to go in my smartphone.

>>135921425
Reading in bed is 100x more enjoyable than sitting in front of a computer. Being able to get updates without having to download each individual chapter is god tier, especially when you've read a lot of manga.

>>135921148
Because no garbage online reader has them. Who'd have thought?

>>135921384
PerfectViewer is fairly lightweight and simple to use, just pop a .zip or .rar or .cbr into a folder then click scan and read, but also it has handy options for how you want your images displayed, even if half of them are inefficient and/or gimmicks.

Zingbox is pretty fucking based
Always end up downloading series' too

>>135920809
Zingbox is great
It uses the best sources
>Mangfox
>Mangahere
>Batoto
>Kissmanga
>Mangapark

>>135921034
Honneyview is pretty much the same as Faststone, maybe just a tag more minimal.
>but it can't read .zip volume tanks
But it solves this issue well since it can read .zip, .rar, .7z.

>>135921526
Yeah so does every other reader in existence. That's not the problem.

The problem is any manga reader on the playstore generally has tons of removed series.

>>135917181
>license: GNU GPL
Nice

>>135920703
I modified the source and made a few tweaks, of which I can't actually remember many. Just things that bothered me that other readers had.

>>135918198
The microsoft default reader has a rotation option which can permanently damage an image and lower its quality.

>>135921574
That's not on the readers, that's on the sources themselves

>>135921574
>using a manga reader that has series in it already
>not downloading a series to your device from madokami or mangatraders or wherever, then reading without waiting to load

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>>135918117
I have no need for anything but this. I don't need a bunch of extra features, just give me the minimal options and a blank, dark background around my manga.

>>135921654
No. Stuff on the sources themselves will be removed from the reader

>>135921673
Too much work when following over 100 series.

>>135921716
I have several hundred and I have a dozen ways to automate it.

>>135921707
Exactly. It's perfect as the default windows image viewer as well as reading Manga, just configure it to open jpg, gif, and png by default and everything will be smooth.

It's really everything microsoft should have done for their default image viewer. But micrsoft insisted on being retarded as usual>>135921621

>>135921776
I haven't found a way I like to automate the downloads yet other than the easy manga readers.

>>135921716
I don't automate, since I read in big chunks at a time.

I read manga on my PC with XnView.
I don't read manga on my phone usually because the screen's tiny as fuck, and if it's not a release that's been topazed to shit, the tones scale poorly on the screen.

>>135921716
That's not how it works.
Give me an example.
I know that when OPM got taken off Batoto, it got removed from the reader because I was using their Batoto source.
Nothing to do with play store but with Batoto themselves.

>>135917181
OCR Manga Reader for Android

>>135921885
I do that for a majority of my series now. I just try to forget about it and read it months later. I still follow ~100 or so semi-regularly.

>>135921908
I don't use any of the apps on the playstore anymore because of the removed content. I'm sure I could pull it up if you want me to.

>>135921954
Nah dude you're fucking retarded, I don't know what happened to you as a kid, but consider a shotgun mouthwash

>>135921707
Love that page

>>135918198
>not using Photos app on Windows 10

why?

>>135921526
>It uses the best sources
>translated shit
Jesus fuck, /a/ is full of normalfags.

>tfw still can't use my eyes to turn manga pages so i can stay comfy in my blanket
>have to take hands out and let out all the sweet stinky farts

When will they fix this?

>>135921993
Licensed and ecchi stuff gets removed all the time from the playstore apps. Though using Zinbox right now it does look pretty decent.

Only a matter of time before it's removed entirely from the playstore though just like Managawatcher was.

>>135922057
huh? are you telling us to get unlocalized manga? I'm not gonna spend 3 years learning a language, then not even being fluent in it because japanese is hopelessly complex

>>135921902
Actually, my biggest gripe with phones is they are insanely slow at processing high resolution images with Lanczos or bicubic.

I have a 1,7GB artbook with 5000x7000 resolution images, and it would take anywhere from 6-10 seconds to even re-render the screen after you panned around the images just a bit.

>>135922109
They already have eye tracking software.

>>135917181
Mcomix

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MMCE. Loads huge archives super quick (I'm talking about archives that have 20+ volumes), can flip through different sections quickly thanks to the slider at the bottom, and clearly displays file name and page number out of how many pages in the folder/archive that's loaded. They're all really handy features to have if you happen to scanlate manga, but even if you don't, it's got a nice minimalist, but highly customizable style for how you load images, whether it's a 1 page vs 2-page mode, or whether you want to have it in continuous scroll mode, or a traditional click for next page.

>>135922126
kill yourself reddit

>>135922122
Because you manually choose what source you use ie Batoto or Kissmanga etc. that's a loophole with the playstore because they aren't actually providing the ecchi and licensed.
Batoto and couple others are the ones that remove licensed, but not all the sources.

>>135922190
have you tested it on a tablet?

i use cdisplay because it works great full screen, but it doesn't show page numbers.

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>>135922190
>I only partake in the most optimal way to efficiently read my Korean chicken scribbles

>>135922190
>or whether you want to have it in continuous scroll mode
Do you mean one long scroll with no gaps between pages? As in it'll display page 1 and page 2 above/below?

I've been looking for a reader that does this for ages, similar to MPV on Sadpanda.

>>135922244
I'm not saying the sources removed or didn't remove the content. I know they do. I'm saying that most of the mangareaders on the app store remove the options to find content on their reader due to the playstore putting pressure on them. Mangawatcher didn't remove anything and had tons of different sources, and eventually got taken down due to license issues.

>>135921457
Perfect Viewer.

If bubbles are too small on your phone, you can click on them to make the program intelligently create a zoomed pop-up box.

If you want color, you can have it auto-color. Generally, if the manga's artist is good (Wolfsmund, Ubel Blatt, surprisingly Cheat Hero <generic ln title here>), then the auto-coloring looks like it was colored to begin with.

In fact, I want that feature on Honeyview....

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I use Quivi. Simple and can read .zip and .rar.

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>>135922190
>Loads huge archives super quick
Hox, this is more dependent on which archive type we're dealing with.

If it's .zip file on an SSD, then pretty much most readers will have the same speed. Whereas if it's .7z, it will read very slow.

(guys, don't use .7z for manga/image.
.zip is most ideal for manga
.7z is mosely ideal for everything else that isn't manga.)

I decided to give MComix a try because of this thread. It's miles better than Windows Image Gallery, but I still can't read more than one .jpg from a .rar file and going through and manually putting all my doujins in seems like a huge waste of time.

>>135922126
>huh? are you telling us to get unlocalized manga?
They are localised in Japan, the country of their relevance.
>I'm not gonna spend 3 years learning a language
You can be reading a lot of manga with relative comfort within 12 months.
>then not even being fluent in it because japanese is hopelessly complex
It isn't. Even if it was, you've more than likely spent over a decade consuming Japanese media. You have no fucking excuse by this point.

>>135922297
>If you want color, you can have it auto-color

i have never seen this look good

>>135922303
Not entirely true. Mcomix is pretty shit about loading large archives in general.

Been using CDisplay for the longest time. It's too "it just werks" for me to switch.

For downloading, I use MangaDLR. You need to download it from the programmer's site, though it has everything. Online search and downloading is done by super-short scripts/plugins.

>>135917294
>>135917785
KORE HONTOUNI KAZOKU

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>>135922292
Yup, exactly. This is what the gap looks like. It's a tiny one, so nothing bothersome.

>>135922303
True, but I'm mainly just comparing my experiences with other manga readers.

>>135922281
Hello. Is this your first day on /a/?

77mh

or, idk, god forbid i go and buy a physical copy and read that

>>135922274
I have a table that runs a windows 8 OS, and it's fine on that.

>>135922444
is it a coffee table or a big dining one?

MangaMeeya, and Firefox.

For phone I use Perfect Viewer

>>135922375
Does it have autodownload for followed series? this is all I need

>>135922405
My god thank you. I've been looking for one for awhile. Mcomix doesn't have it, CDisplay doesn't have it, a few others I tried didn't either.

>>135922465
One other handy feature is that you can just instantly zoom in and out by holding your middle mouse button. I mention it because it surprisingly tends to go unnoticed by people who try MMCE out.

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>>135922297
>>Perfect Viewer.
Yeah, I think I've tried this at one point. But it had this problem>>135922155
My nexus 5 has the Snapdragon 800 cpu, but it's still lagging by those +5 seconds. I guess smartphone processors still sucks for heavy processing.

But you're probably on the right track, perfectviewer is the program that looks like Honeyview the most on android. It's just not.... perfect yet.

Manga Meeya which works good enough. You can scroll through it with a gamepad even when the window is inactive in case you want to multitask and I like how scrolling with the thumbstick. Only bad thing is it can't read really long filenames or certain characters like hearts which screws it up for doujins and hmanga.

>>135922190
>or whether you want to have it in continuous scroll mode
Dayum, that's pretty neat. I suspect this feature is a real memory hog though.

>>135922297
Perfectiviewer is the right answer to his question, but the colorizing is a paywalled gimmick that requires an alignment of the stars to look remotely passable.

>>135922564
PerfectViewer has a ton of options, you don't have to use lanczos or bicubic if you don't want.

>>135921384
I like zingbox because I don't have to download shit but sometimes pages take a while to refresh which is annoying. No ads is nice though

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>>135922739
>you don't have to use lanczos or bicubic
But I want to. those are the highest quality resampling options.

We went as far as mading Mozilla update Firefox to include Lanczos option by constantly bugging them about it until they fixed it. That's how serious this is.

I'm a newfag when it comes to programs like this.

How do I get Honeyview to display the next image in a .rar gallery?

>>135922939
Open honeview>go to open>open .rar>scroll down

>>135922939
I configured mine to display next file wia scroll button.

I thinkg the arrow keys are working by default, not sure.

>>135922857
>I want ... the highest quality resampling options
>on the screen of a mobile device
Why? You can't tell the difference between those and any of several vastly cheaper algorithms anyway.
>that comparison
It's not like your only other option is nearest fucking neighbor. Obviously that's not good enough. But the averaging smoothers are good at a far smaller cost.

>>135923013

Works great, but I'd rather be able to just open a .rar archive and do the same thing once I've opened an image. It's a lot easier when I've just downloaded stuff and want to open it from Firefox.

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>>135923177
I just do this.

I would even use honneyview to open .zip files by default if I had to. The .rar/.7z program can be delegated to context menu and it wouldn't change my workflow one bit.

>>135923276

Thanks. Feel stupid now not realizing I could use other programs to open .rar stuff. Going to be a bit of a pain opening any other non-doujin archived files, though.

>>135923276
You don't have to make honneyview the default for archives. Just using the rightclicking menu is enough for me.

>>135922288
can you actually read manga without waiting half a year to redraw? comfortably?

I might buy one if it does

>>135923500
Most likely not.
Do eink readers even display refresh rate when they sell them?

>>135922190
Sucks that it doesn't have an adaptive background.

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>>135923148
You can tell the difference in the way moire patterns are resampled. That's relevant due to the say some manga files are processed by certain groups.

You can use this image for testing.
For a more extreme example, use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gustave_Dor%C3%A9_-_Miguel_de_Cervantes_-_Don_Quixote_-_Part_1_-_Chapter_1_-_Plate_1_%22A_world_of_disorderly_notions,_picked_out_of_his_books,_crowded_into_his_imagination%22.jpg

>>135917181
I modified the Rnescape Client from Jagex to serve me manga pages instead of playing downloading game updates. Have fun being exploited.

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ComicRack. It's got all your standard reader features for page display, navigation, scrolling, magnifier, keyboard bindings and so on. I couldn't live without the built-in library feature. I don't know how anyone could ever stand having to keep track of everything manually.

>>135924009
Its library is shit and not suited for manga at all.

>>135924104
I don't see the problem with it. It works well for me, both for hentai and regular manga.

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Damn. Perfect Viewer can't open 29 MB jpeg files. I dislike these arbitrary limitations.

If only our smartphones had a little bit more power.

>>135923972
Manga is never as complex as actual woodcuts though, and I'm glad it's not because holy hell would that be a pain in the ass to clean without fucking up, much less redraw.

>>135924195
I'm sure Perfect Viewer could be optimized to work better with Lanczos resampling though. It's not ideal in its current shape.
Most of the time these programs are maintained by individuals who don't have so many resources.

>>135924455
Well, yeah. If you're a lanczos expert I"m sure he could use the help. But there's only so much you can do to get an advanced algorithm running quickly on a low-power device.

>>135922375
I used to read from MangaWatcher but shifted to MangaDLR + adblocker. With M.DLR, it can be a guessing game on what series is updated though.

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>>135924540
I just did some testing with Image viewer using this source>>135923972

A couple of interesting things to note:
The free version can't open the 29MB image at all. Buuuut, the "Perfect Viewer Donated apk" version can.
Averaging and AveragingV2 are decently fast, but they are almost as bad as Nearest Neighbour in terms of reducing Moire artifacts.
Bilinear is really slow as expected, but does a decent job removing some of the Moire.
Bicubic and Lanczos is just painfully slow.

Now I'm not even sure which resampling method I should use.

Standard android photo viewer/gallery thingy when it works and Mango when the numbering is fucked, no reason to have anything else, I mean you tap to zoom and swipe to scroll it's not rocket science.

For windows again just whatever the standard windows picture viewing program is. You click to go to next or previous page and zoom in or out with the fucking wheel and drag it with the cursor.

Why complicate things?

Why do I need anything else.

CDisplay for PC
PerfectViewer for Android

>>135918117
Patrician Taste, anon.

>>135925655
windows cant read zip files

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>>135925655
>Why complicate things?
How do you feel about the standard window program arbitration reducing the image quality of your images permanently just because you thought it would be run to rotate the image in the viewing program?

>>135925730
Unzip them in a folder duh. Are you even serious with this? Never heard that there are pictures in a zip file?
>>135925756
It's barely noticeable, sure it's processed worse but it doesn't change it, it's still the same fucking picture and I don't spend on it more than I need to read it.
Are you one of those who would go apeshit if your video bitrate 1kbit off claiming it's shit?
Yeah no, sorry but I'm not autistic to run for quality that doesn't change the artwork in the slightest for no reason.

>>135926032
>It's barely noticeable
Try this image>>135923972
By Rotating it 2-3 times. In Windows 8, the 30MB file suddenly becomes 20MB, losing one third of its data.
(In Windows XP or thereabout, the 30MB file would become3MB or thereabout.)

This is destructive behaviour, it damages your content, your property. Why are you going through these lengths to protect something that is harming you?

Stockholm Syndrome?

>>135926268
Don't rotate it? Is that hard?

>>135926268
couldn't you just
idk
not rotate your images?

>>135926458
>>135926462
It's a standard image viewing feature. People rotate their smartphones all the time to get landscape viewport.

One could expect Microsoft to not fuck up and turn such a standard feature into a gun to your head, couldn't you?
There should be a limit to how much default dick you can tolerate.

CDisplay PC
Aizoban android

>>135926032
>Unzip them in a folder duh.
He gave you a good reason why he prefers different from you.
Yours create fragmentation in the harddisk and makes your filesystem more bloated. His is more organised, he just has to right click the file to access it, whereas you have to unzip everything you download.

You like extra steps, he likes efficient steps.

>>135926605
>Aizoban android
The github page says "Aizoban (Depreciated)", is there anyplace where this is better maintained?

>>135927061
I'm not sure. I downloaded it from Fdroid long time ago. I think they might've stopped developing altogether.

>>135927178
I just found another github that forked it.

I'll try it out.

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Honeyview on PC
Aizoban on Android

>>135927201
I use this one https://github.com/CheviOne/Aizoban/releases

>>135927307
Not what I expected. I prefer the type of readers where I download the volumes to my device, and then able to read them offline.

I guess these online readers are becomin increasingly popular. But they're not the way I prefer it. I think I'll stick with Perfect Viewer for now.

>>135927384
You can do that in Aizoban

>>135927556
I believe he means that he wants to download shit on his PC, then transfer to his phone and read it there.
If Aizoban can still do that, I'd also like to know how

>>135927635
There should be an import option. I haven't used it but mangawatcher had something similar. You import from .zip or folder locations.

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>>135924540
>But there's only so much you can do to get an advanced algorithm running quickly on a low-power device.
Hey Anon, I just tried something wacky. That 30MB jpeg image was actually openable in cyanomodgen's default File Manager.

I'm not sure which resampling method it uses, but it's pretty damn responsive when you pan around the image while zoomed in. I think it's even faster than Perfect View's ugliest resampler.

Does Manga Meeya have the same features as this + the vertical viewer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mbisM9seD-Y

>>135922190
>ctrl+f MMCE
>hox is the only one mentioning this
/a/ pls

also i didn't know there was a continuous scroll feature in this program

CDisplay > *

It's easy, lightweight and just work. also the automatic slideshow for fapping.

>>135930299
MMCE = MangaMeeya

MangaFox

Manga Rock

notepad++

>>135922155
>watching 5kx7k pictures on your phone
>phone (probably) has full hd screen

Well you're doing it wrong.

>>135917181
CDisplayEX.

>>135931264
There is no reason why a larger image shouldn't be able to be downscaled for the purpose of browsing.

I read manga online because I couldn't care less about 2d monochrome drawings quality

>>135932414
I care to the extent I wont read mangafox quality but I don't care enough to download like I do with anime.

>>135932519
thanks for making me complete anon

>>135924009
>comicrack
>for hentai manga and doujinshi

Manga/Doujinshi
PandaViewer: https://github.com/seanegoodwin/PandaViewer/releases
HappyPanda: http://pewpews.github.io/happypanda/

Most other hentai:
Hydrus Network: https://hydrusnetwork.github.io/hydrus/

>>>/h/4127848

>>135921938
this

>>135917181
Batoto.

Yes, I'm lazy.

>>135932980
My library is already organized and tagged. I've got over 6 years worth of reading history in there and everything is available in one program. I still don't see the problem with it, and it's not like I'm saying this is the only thing to use or anything.

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I used to use Mangawatcher but recently it crashes so often unless I'm using the Mangawatcher2beta.apk

Lotta nice options, quick, and looks decent on my phones and tablets

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>>135932414
get a load of this faggot

>>135933044
Still better than all the other online readers.

>>135933741
manga is serious business, right?
loser
nice smug anime girl

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>>135934039
>proud of being a halfassed shitter
come on, entertain me more

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oh and also use this to download it on PC
https://github.com/riderkick/FMD

does anyone know if MangaWatcher ver 2 ( https://bitbucket.org/_vadia/manga-watcher-public/issues/324/mangawatcher-version-2 ) works with Batoto?
Aizoban doesn't have Batoto as one of the sources

With godoka's ghetto reader because I'm gangsta like that.

>>135922303
>>135922405
7z only is only slow with default compression settings. Add -ms=off to the compression command and it is the same as any other archive type.
I don't like how people disregard 7z because of this, even though it's the only non shitty patent free archive format, use it.

Mangasee

>>135922190
Is there a reason you use v2.4 Hox? I use v7.4. The unicode problem is easy to fix.

Is the guy that was comparing FMD to DDS here?

>>135917181
Google, I usually search for "xxx online" and done.

>>135936366
i'm wondering this as well. i've been using 2.4 forever now.

>>135937136
I've used v2.4 and v7.4, as well as many of the other versions. v7.4 is definitely the best and most stable, although the actual program is still what I would consider beta. But hey, it still works.
The fact that MMCE works better in its stage compared to most manga viewers says something about it.

>>135922349
spending a decade watching and reading chinese cartoon is more fun that learning japanese

>>135934646
If you want one that will work with Batato, just use
http://www.redsquirrel87.com/Batoto.php