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>Baccano licenzed >no 21 volume for years and years >Overlord

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>Baccano licenzed
>no 21 volume for years and years
>Overlord licenzed
>no vol 10 for you, pals, wait for official translations

So, gentelmen, how do we kill yen press?
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By ignoring translations and learning Japanese.
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given their schedule it's surprising they're actually even still alive
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Not buying their shit.
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>>135701329
or you can make ghost translator to grow balls
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They ruined Saki
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>>135701329
By supporting the superior nip version and this >>135702450.
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Yen Press is the only one translating Progressive, so no. Also, >>135702643.
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How about you learn jap and read the original instead of your trashy machine tier translations you somehow think are acceptable ay?

You might as well if your shitty translator is that much of a pussy to continue his whack translations just because of a licence.
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>>135701329
Never heard of those series, Yen is publishing what I like. Maybe shit niche taste is your problem
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The fact that they are allowed to this is just another sign that copyright laws are bullshit.
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>>135703867
>never heard of Baccano
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Hadn't the translations of SAO's Alicization volumes continued anyway and YP hasn't given a shit?

Same with Spice and Wolf.

Also Haruhi volumes 10-11, previously.
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>>135701329
They keep putting out Yotsuba&! so I don't really give a shit what else they do.
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>>135703509
As in SAO Progressive? Kill yourself.
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>Blaming Yen Press for your pussy ass translator for abandoning shit

kek
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>>135704269
Yes. And no.
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>>135704093
Copyright laws are bullshit but I feel like this is a separate problem
Like, Yen Press can license all this shit but there's nothing in the agreement that says they have to do anything with it in a timely manner and risk losing it
And that they don't seem particularly threatened by translators picking it up again anyway? Demand isn't strong enough for that to even happen?
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>>135701329
1. Learn Moon
2. Buy the original novel from Nip Amazon
3. ???

Although with no x amount of volume having been translated by Yen Press. They're already dead. Since nobody is buying the novels.

I think that's why Yen Press'll opt for digital releases i.e., Oregairu will get digitally release and if sales are moderately high then Yen Press'll take into consideration printing and selling physical copies of the novels.
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>>135704448
They can only release them so fast. Text needs to be translated, books need to be printed, retailers need to order stock, so on, so forth, and the target market only has so much disposable income per month to spend on this shit.
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>>135701329
>Overlord licenzed
>no vol 10 for you, pals, wait for official translations
Nope, Nigel alredy confirmed he's translating Vol.10 when it comes out and any other future Overlord volumes or BD side-stories.
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At least they're not Tokyopop.
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>>135704840
How bad are they compared to Jewpress?
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They're translating what I read so fuck off.
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>>135704880
TP would license something and never use it,

and then came the fucking legal limbo when the whole place shut down
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>>135705038
Wow that's fucking shit, you think Yenpress would fall to that level?
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>>135705139
It may have crossed their mind, but I don't think they can afford it.

Manga licensors saw TP crash and burn and are plenty more careful these days.

The drawback being that it's hard to get things that aren't action or melodrama.
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>>135705139
Unlike Tokyopop which was a standalone publisher of weebshit (and then was killed by Kodansha cutting their ties with them), Yen Press is a subsidiary of the Hachette Book Group, one of the biggest publishers in the world, and seems more cautious about what they pick up.
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>>135704269
But Progressive is good.
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>Company legally licences shit
>They take down the main source of fan translation
>Translator fucks off instead of doing something else like the Index translator
>HURR YEN PRESS IS SHIT

Do people complain that Crunchyroll is a thing? No, because people actually give a shit about what they do and do either fansubs or rip their fucking translations. Nobody said "Well, they are doing it and I'm a pussy, bye"
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>>135704681
YenPress != Printing Press
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>>135701329
Shit
They're translating Blood Lad, which is still publishing, if they pull this shit with that series Im gonna be a little annoyed and just read online
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>>135705393
Are you implying SAO is good? If so fuck off forever
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>>135701329
Baccano is fully translated though. What the fuck are you on about?
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>>135705442
>Someone other than me on here actually reads the blood lad manga

Damn
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>>135705453
But he's right.
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>>135705481
He's just a cancerous newfag who doesn't know what he's on about.
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>>135705430
>printing press
You know they fucking folded them that way to MAIL them in an envelope, right? After people bitched about the 3DPD covers?
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>>135701329
>vol 10
It's not out.
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>>135705139
Yen Press has a much more reliable track record so far. They even bothered to finish releasing all the main volumes of fucking Book Girl, and any failures are probably absorbed by their parent company Hachette's war chest unlike Tokyopop who only survive on otaku entertainment.
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>>135705481
>>135705523
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>>135705545
Who do you think prints those covers? The translator at Yen Press? And then he sends it to your house?
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>>135705555
>take down translation
What the fuck? No one wiil sue your. It's jsut boogieman
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>>135705442
They seem to put out omnibuses for Blood Lad and have largely caught up.
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>>135705597
Danmachi translator's blog got nuked because he ignored a C&D.
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>>135705551
Yeah, but Sky said they turning down translaitions with vol 9 being last, since it got licenzed.
Yeah, Nigel said, thet he will translate it, but it will take more time and efforts, and not ceranly.
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>>135705555
Are you retarded? Volume 21 is 1935-C and it's the most recent since 2013 because Narita only wants to write Durarara.
You're whining about translations of volumes that weren't even released yet and probably won't be anytime soon.
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>>135705555
That's your own fault for not fucking downloading the pdf's newfag.
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>>135705648
Atleast we'll be able to read vol.10 this year and maybe other people can help him translate.
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>>135704840
For example. Real story
>Tokyopop licensed KnK
>Pussy translator close his translation project, because KnK WILL BE RELEASED soon
>seven years later
>no KnK
>"KnK will be released soon. Just wait more"
>some guy out of nowhere translate all KnK volumes
>pussy translator: YOU TRANSLATION IS SHIT HURR PIRATE HURRR SHIT TRANSLATION
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Fuck baccano actually got licensed? Shit for once in a while they pick up something that's not some harem fantasy trash.
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>>135705682
Well, a was talking about 22, yeah.
I'm whinning about possibiliti, that i won't be ranslaed even after release.
>>135705700
Welp, i don't download pdf's only because mobi is more convenient to read on kindle.
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>>135705626
Create new blog. Problem solved. It's like youtube. They nuke only once
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>>135705648
Is it true that they use google translator?
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>>135705757
Cokesakto's translation of Kara no Kyokai really was lacking, though. It may have read smoothly, but it was embellished to the point of containing entire sentences made up from thin air by the translator which didn't exist in the original and did not convey any meaning or spirit present in the original. At that point you're no longer reading a translation, but the translator's own creative writing.
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>>135705874
Ask Nigel
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>>135705648
I trust Thornberry.
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>>135705874
If they do at least they clean it up really well. But as far as I know he simply translates from Chinese.
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>>135705757
That wasn't Tokyopop, that was Del Rey Manga. Who became defunct after Kodansha decided they would rather release their manga via their own US division instead of through Del Rey.
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>>135705878
Yeah, I hear that Cokesakto's translation is not very good, but all situation among VN/LN translation reminds me some special olympic game. Or /ic/, where people shitpost about other people works but never post their own. Because they're famous pros of course. Why translation scene always full of ego and elitism? Why commie helds in hostage Mahoyo 69% translation? Why Mcjon01 forced to translate from begining? Muh translation do not steal
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>>135703867
>He thinks Baccano and Overlord are niche series

I think you need to lurk a bit more before you start talking all high and mighty, fag.
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>>135706174
Please remember that at the end of the day, the main motivation of most fan translators is the e-peen. Even if they did it at first because they really wanted to share their favorite thing with others, the e-peen always corrupts them in the end.

I speak as an anon who did some bits and pieces of translation once, but stopped because my proficiency was nowhere bear sufficient enough to maintain acceptable standards of accuracy and good English within a reasonable timeframe. All the way up until I quit it was the e-peen that kept me going.
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>>135706330
Late night anime is niche by definition.
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>>135704526
>books need to be printed
Hello? It's CURRENT YEAR

They should just make e-books and release printed versions later for the few collectors that actually care
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>>135706335
I mainly do it for the lulz, but it feels good to have people fawning over me.

I feel bad if I don't put out good stuff, though.
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>>135706681
Physical always > digital. Like Traditional > digital in art.
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>>135706769
Sure, I agree that I prefer to be able to read things on paper. But if the alternative stands between reading on a screen and waiting 10 years I'll choose the former.
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>>135706681
Notice how YP has Kindle releases for some of their series but not for others, that's because the licensors are selling digital publishing rights separately from physical and can be assholes about it.
Source http://mangacomicsmanga.com/interview-kurt-hassler-juyoun-lee-yen-light-novels/
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>>135706830
Figures the jewlevens are responsible
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HEY GUYS HEAR THIS ENGLISH DUB OF CLATTONIA WAAAAAAUGH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEtJ83c8LWg
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>>135706939
It's meh desu.
Also WTF was up with Ainz face he looked retarded.
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>>135705582
Read the comment chain again. YenPress is a company and is responsible for the quality of the books they sell. It's their fucking job to make sure that everything is printed and put together the right way.
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>>135701560
>>135703444
>>135704471

You are the faggots that keep people from enjoying anime. Thanks
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>>135708124
How does that work exactly?
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>>135707338
Shut up, newrfag.
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>>135701329
Trick them into localizing Horizon.
Watch them go bankrupt within a year.
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Any news on overlord artbook?
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>>135708944
It seems the guy that was scanning it stopped for some reason.
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They're better than Viz and Tokyopop.
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>>135701329
I just hope Rokka ain't hit. And luckily it ain't so popular here in US and so are it's sales. So they might have second thoughts about that.
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>>135710608
Then again I feel bad for rokka in that regard...
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>>135708944
It's up on animebytes since december
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>>135706174
Is it just a coincidence that nothing Nasu has ever written has ever been officially translated into another language? Only adaptions. None of Type Moon's source material has ever been localized. Makes you wonder.
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I liked the overlord anime but the LN will probably bore me like mahouka with the detailed magic mechanic explanations.
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>>135710781
They know he is an hack.
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>>135710999
There are not much magic mechanics explanations.
All of magic there from DnD.
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>>135710999
There aren't alot of mechanics to the magic (it's D&D magic so not that complex), still your choice anon.
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>>135710781
Didn't he write some of Fate Extra?
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>>135708124
You want to funnel off the chocolate wine? You gotta be 18 years or old to post, anon. And what you typed was unfathomably idiotic.
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>>135706830
That's not the only reason Yen Press opted for digital. It's a safe route, basically. If sells for the digital are great, then they may print physical copies. Unlike Yen Press manga, their light novels aren't bringing them the dosh.
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>>135701329
Am i glad Shieldbro is handled by someone else. The e-book versions seem to be selling well in amazon
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>>135703565
>How about you learn jap and read the original instead of your trashy machine tier translations you somehow think are acceptable ay?

If I'm not a native-born speaker wouldn't my own internal translation also be machine-tier, since I wouldn't get the nuances and shit?
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>>135712548
This is why you waste 5 years of your life wasting your life to study it.
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>>135712230
>That's not the only reason Yen Press opted for digital. It's a safe route, basically. If sells for the digital are great, then they may print physical copies.
Except that YP has not published any novels digitally which they weren't publishing physically? Or are you referring to their manga? With regards to the novels, they've said that it is difficult to get digital publishing rights for many of them.
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>>135708692
season 3 when?
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>>135704880
Their light novel translations were actually alright, but they died before really finishing most series they licensed.

The shit they did to manga was awful though. Editing covers with horrible early 2000-era photoshop skills, hiring college students that barely understood the language they were supposed to be translating, intentionally altering character names and dialogue to make it more Americanized, taking anything they had permission to publish and calling it manga even if it wasn't manga.
And they published a ton of series, too. There are some gems but you have to do a lot of digging for them now.
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>>135706330
been into anime since the 1970s, I'm pretty sure I know what is popular and what is niche
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>>135713150
When Love Live is no longer profitable.
In other words, somewhere around the heat death of the universe.
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>>135713371
Go back to your Legend of the Galactic Heroes, gramps.
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>>135713426
>Star Musketeer Bismark
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>>135705552
They also have a mountain of fujo manga they're making bank off of (Kuroshitsuji, Pandora Hearts, all those Alice otomeshit manga etc), it probably gives them enough leverage to publish the smaller stuff.

>>135706001
>Del Rey/Kodansha
Good riddance to them too, for canning Nodame Cantabile and SZS.
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>>135713395
It is a cruel world.
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>>135713426
that's 1980s. by the way Viz Media licensed the manga last year. See, that's not niche like the stuff OP mentioned
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>>135701560

This.

So long as you're dealing with the middle man, you're always going to have to put up with the middle man's bullshit. Cases where they sit on top of the license and do nothing but prevent anyone from translating it? Censorship and other brands of butchering? Dub-only? Too fucking bad. If it wasn't Yen Press, it'd be someone else.

There are really only three ways around it. The first way is to start your own company which somehow becomes powerful enough to end the bullshit of the middle man. Good luck. The second is to somehow change laws so that they can't subject customers to bullshit. Again, good luck. The third is to learn Japanese and cut the middle man out entirely. This is the most viable, as the only way to fail is to not put in sufficient effort. Either way, unless you're willing to put in some hours, you're fucked.
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>>135705792
After they picked up Durarara, I think a lot of people flooded them with requests to pick up Baccano!

I know the comments on the announcement page for DRRR were full of it.
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Translate it yourself.
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>>135714452
Luckily i downloaded it all.
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>>135706859
xenophobic elevens fear ebooks, call kindle 'black ships' (google it kids)
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>>135713506
Alice is Seven Seas.
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>>135715027
>call kindle 'black ships' (google it kids)

fuccbois couldn't handle Admiral Perry's girth?
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>>135705545
>>135705582
>>135707964
>those bastard covers
>and they're not even sold in supermarkets
I can understand packaging them up like shit to market to people they'd otherwise miss, but if you're not even in those untouched market locations, it's all for nothing
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>>135706174
>but all situation among VN/LN translation reminds me some special olympic game
virtually everything involving animu/mangu/vidya reminds me of the autistic olympics
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>>135704093
And they are about to get even worse bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3KlrfjcjV4
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License Hakomari pls
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>how dare they charge me money for things that cost money
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>>135708124
I'm just as curious as this anon >>135708169
Can you please explain?
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>>135701329
>So, gentelmen, how do we kill yen press?
You don't. You get on Facebook and tell them what you want. They do respond and listen.

And as long as you keep reminding them what you want, they'll deliver or tell you why it's taking a while.
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Why do people read ongoing LN's that are likely to never end?
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>>135716032
Because it's more interesting, than most of ended lns.
It's not like you anniemays.
In manga and ln 99% good things are ongoing, or in scanlation limbo, or had been read by you years ago.
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>>135716032
7/10
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>>135716258
Chill on manga breh, hardly anything ongoing is worthwhile .

But with light novels unless it's some popular shit you'll get 2 volumes a year at most or even just one. If the volumes were self contained i'd be alright with that but most aren't.
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>>135716460
>hardly anything ongoing is worthwhile
Maybe which are scanlated.
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>>135716460
I currently reading more than 100 ongoings.
Most of them it scanlation limbo, but still.
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>>135701329
They're probably waiting with next volume until they sell enough units.
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>>135716524
>100 series
>currently
Nerd
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>>135715967
People have been telling them to git gud at localizing since they first started, it never changed and is still catered towards trailer trash.
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>>135716524
I try to keep mine under 200, but there are fags here with close to 1000. But they seem to be mostly full of garbage harem trash.
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>>135716644
They can market to the large general public or cater to the two people on /a/ who'll actually buy things instead of complaining, which do you think is going to make more money?
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>>135716948
Most publishers end up hitting neither.
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>>135716948
>implying the large general public actually buys books

Trailer trash are just another vocal minority, except they don't extend to areas outside of America. There's a reason even vidya localization differs in US and EU.

Dudebros might know about One Punch Man, but they sure as hell aren't going to buy a light novel.
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>>135716524
I use to be like that then I had to chop it down to like 43 since some series kind of fell off for me or others simply were just taking forever to get translated.
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If translators weren't such attention seeking whores within the community, they'd just keep translating underground. But because they can't have a fan page or their name as easily attached for everybody to fawn all over their efforts and kiss their ass they won't do it.
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>>135715112
It's both of them and Tokyopop
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>>135716977
The only publisher who probably does hit both is Viz because look at the rip dumps now. Apart from that, who do you think buys D+Q or shit like Gundam?
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>>135701329
Well, since BT was taken down it's not like you have a choice anymore.
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>>135717321
We can learn chink!
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>>135717321
>since BT was taken down

What the fuck? Did anyone save everything?
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>>135717443
Yes. Everything is on mega, xianxia included.
For date a live side stories use webarchive .
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>>135717725
Can you link mega? Using desustorage right now but the ones I'm finding are all invalid/taken down.
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>>135717443
Only shitty reincarnation and MMO-LNs got taken down anyway, so nothing of value was lost.
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>>135717862
You realize the site doesn't even load right now right?
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>>135717788
Anon. I literally googled it and found it on first page more than a month ago.
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>>135718158
I thought the DMCA didn't even hit yet a month ago. Are you talking about the BT web archive? I don't really get how it works but is it the one that takes up around 11 gigs?
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>>135717929
The site goes down all the time.
Do we have a reason to believe it's down for good this time?
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>>135718851
>>135719341
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>Yen Press publishes Prison School
>Gakuto is now Gackt
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>>135720073
They gonna get sued for that.
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