Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1362

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なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！

Persistence is the key to success. You CAN learn Japanese!

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>>135699066
xth for 狸

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I can't find mistakes in English.

Is there any addon for batch editing of my cards in deck?

I would like for example remove something from all the cards at once. Without the need of editing every single one.

>>135698894
>>135699614

The correction to 15 is silly.

On 14:

I can't really teach you about this, but I might be able to get you started.

Whether to use "to X" or "Xing" is one of the harder things to explain. A lot of it is because "to X" will turn into "in order to X" in a lot of situations. It's full of nuance, but if you show an educated native English speaker a sentence, it's always consistent. I don't know of any ambiguous cases. That's why it's hard.

Maybe it's best to default to "Xing" unless you're using a phrase that supports "to X". Hell, it's such a situational thing that, in my head, I attach the "to" to the left verb instead of the right verb. You see it in casual speech, too: "I want to go" "I wanna go". Maybe it's an infinitive when the "to" can attach to the left verb. We can attach it to either. We can even end sentences on it.

<B is on the computer, and A leans into their room to say something>
A: "Wanna eat ice cream?"
B: "I'd love to."
A: "To what?"
<A is confused because he didn't expect B to answer so strongly>
B: "Eat ice cream with you."
<"Eat" here is infinitive, even though there's no "to", because of context>
A: "Wait, I've got work to do. I'm just feeding you."
<"Feeding" can mean "provide food", not just "forced feeding". Note this is distinct from "feeding ON something".>
B: "Oh..."

A lot of English grammar theory comes from French and is difficult to contort around English. This might be interesting if you or someone you know can understand english-language linguistics stuff:

>Huddleston and Pullum's Cambridge Grammar of the English Language (2002) does not use the notion of the "infinitive" ("there is no form in the English verb paradigm called 'the infinitive'"), only that of the infinitival clause, noting that English uses the same form of the verb, the plain form, in infinitival clauses that it uses in imperative and present-subjunctive clauses. [(2005). A Student's Introduction to English Grammar. Cambridge UP. p. 204.]

>>135699668
>The correction to 15 is silly.
ESLs baka

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>>135699668
this whole post made me glad im english primary, learning japanese, and not the other way around.

You make english sound hard as fuck

>>135699614
私も

>>135699614
I think the answers for the others are
>Last year I did a homestay in New Zealand.
>I used to practice judo when I was a high school student.

>>135699674
Stop posting this

>>135699780
How about
>I used to do judo in high school

>There are dipshits that can't speak English.
I think I'll put off my Anki reps so I can kek a little longer.

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>>135699780
I can spake Engrish forever.
正しい英語がわからない

What settings do you use for Anki? I got:
Steps 16 20
Random Order
New Cards/day differs
Graduating 1d
Easy 4d
Starting Ease 300
Easy bonus 200%
Interv.mod. 100%
Max. int. 360d
Steps 18
New interv 45%
Min. int. 1d
Leech act. Tag only
I've been using this for several month now, so I'm a bit afraid to change something

>>135699919
>Steps 16 20
>Starting Ease 300
>Easy bonus 200%
>Interv.mod. 100%
>New interv 45%
>LEECH ACT. TAG ONLY
Jesus FUCK

>>135699919
whatever defaults are, except tag leeches, 9999 reviews and 25 new cards

>>135699919
>Max. int. 360d
No

>>135699614
>>135699668
More:

"Stop to drink" is valid on its own, but means "stop in order to drink", like you're getting out of a car and into a bar. "I think I should stop to drink so much" sets off alarms in my head because it's not the normal way of saying things. The "so much" is cut off so it can't be "to drink so much that I get wasted". The "so much" is at the end so it's really hard to apply to the "I think" or "I should". Even if you say "I think I should stop to drink so much" to mean "I really think I should stop somewhere in order to drink", it sounds very unnatural.

"Xing" vs "to X" is a common mistake for second language english speakers, so that's the first place my mind gravitates. If I didn't think that way, I might have corrected the question sentence to a different correct sentence than what they intended.

They should have provided japanese translations under the questions.

>>135699702
I know. I wanted to say "don't feel bad about 15, the correction is pedantic", but I hit the 2k character limit.

>>135699760
>this whole post made me glad im english primary, learning japanese, and not the other way around.
I know, right?

>People are taking my "don't suspend leeches" bait.
hehehe

>>135699975
>LEECH ACT. TAG ONLY
You don't know what you are talking but right?

>>135700024
so do i suspend them or tag them

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>>135699881
I can't speak English.って書いたはずなんだけどなあ、なんでnot抜けて、speakの綴りが間違うんだろう。

I think I should stop posting in English.

>>135700067
You suspend them and memorize them outside of anki or unsuspend them in a week or two

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>>135699999
>9999 reviews

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>>135700081
aight thanks

>>135700082
the reviews aren't getting out of hand for me, yet
not at 25 new cards

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>>135699999
Checked.

>>135699999
im impressed

>>135700082
Yeah I usually keep the reviews at 75-100

>>135700077
>I think I should stop posting in English.
Don't stop, I like it.

>>135700067
http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html#deck-options
>>135700009
Whats wrong with my settings?
>>135700082
>>135700124
Thats standard settings and there's also nothing wrong with it. Actually you should do all your reviews so 9999 is just as fine as 8000 or whatsoever

>>135699999
nice
amazing really

>>135699999
You're the king of DJT for a day.

>>135700077
>I think I should stop posting in English.
No harm in continuing to post in English, just post the Japanese alongside it so people can correct you or be sure they know what you're trying to say.

>>135700109
>>135700136
>>135700147
He's referring to the 9999 being both in his post number and his post contents

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>>135700161
yay. id like to thank the anon that keeps this shit going, dekinai, tae kim, whoever made anki, imouto, and why japanese people

>>135700255
>id like to thank the anon that keeps this shit going,
>the
wow rude

>>135700255
you're welcome

I've got about 100 suspended cards what do I do with them

I feel like if I make a new deck for them it would just be the most frustrating deck ever and I'd probably kill myself

>>135700255
>Not thanking WaniKani
Shitty king.

>>135700314
You should wait a week so they stop being burnt out and then unsuspend them.

>>135700314
write em a few times or some shit

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>>135700277
ok 'anons'
thought it was an irregular noun

>>135700374
It's both a noun and an adjective.

>>135700374
Oh no! The king is an ESL!

>>135700401
australian... close enough?

well, closer to japan ^______________^

Why are people suspending leeches? If you give up so easily on a word you might as well give up on learning Japanese right now.

>>135700421
The shitposting is strong with this one.

>>135700427
It's not giving up on a word, it's changing the normal order of the deck.

>>135700427
Agreed

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>>135700013
違いはわかるんだけど、間違ったことがわからないんだよう
Thank you so much. I understood difference to X and Xing. However I couldn't find out when it was wrong.

I like my black tea so steeped and bitter it should give me cancer.

>>135700507
I like unsweetened ice tea enemas.

>>135700506
That comes with being more fluent. Human language rules are so complex subjective, reading an explanation isn't enough. Do you know about インプット仮説 ?

I DONT WANNA DO MY REPS TODAY

>>135700861
It's ok. I'll do them for you.

>>135700874
thanks 家族

>>135700861
eat. eat
https://my.mixtape.moe/wxytqy.webm

>>135700920
eat

eat

>>135700920
How the fuck did you get your hands on eva 4.0?

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>>135701004
like all kings, i have some gold

>>135700427
Leeches are few and far in between. There's really no significant loss in suspending them. It's not as if you're never going to learn the word anyway, you're just trying to make your reps more efficient and less frustrating. Hell, you can even delete them if you want and it's still not going be a real setback in your learning.

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>>135699999

>>135701077
Most anons that post their anki pictures have a 10-20% suspended/leech rate.

>>135700506
>I understood difference to X and Xing
I understood _the_ difference _between_ X and Xing.

>>135701116
Still nothing to be worried about. If they're learning the other 80-90% they'll make it just fine. Core and similar stuff are just a little boost before the real run begins, there's no reason for wanting to complete them with perfection. Most of the words you're going to learn is going to come after that anyway. A few hundred words less will make little to no difference in the long run.

Why most of you guys using English when you are studying Japanese?
I don't understand

>>135701098
モモのももを舐めたい

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>>135701116

>>135701226
just like this guy pointing out here>>135701118

i dont understand where to put particles like を　に　と　の　で　etc well enough to be correct sentences.
Barely understand は as a topic particle and が as something specific, and も as 'also' under the same topic

>>135701288
を and の should be easy, what's wrong?

>>135701226

For the same reason people who are studying to become pilots aren't yet piloting commercial airliners.

>>135701116
I'm the guy who posted the stats with 1k suspended on core yesterday. Only 12 cards of those are leeches and 80% of those I already know from reading. The remainder are useless shit like "JR". But I love posting it to piss "suspending = pussy" fuccbois off.

>>135701322
ok so apon reading about を again it is pretty easy, it connects the noun directly to the verb and as a bonus the katakana is never used. Also if i remember, it can only be used once in a sentence..

but の is like 'of' i think but its different from なの for implicit explanation
plus the の can somehow be conjugated into a noun on its own?

>>135701431
In the time it took you to suspend them you could have hit easy 3 times and never see the card again.

>>135701471
There are multiple different pieces of grammar that all use の. But the の that is "of backwards" is the one that you'll never have to worry about. It's really simple on its own. Just remember that the different pieces of grammar using の are totally distinct.

>>135701322
Not him, but I think を might trip people up when used with causative verbs like in あいつらを俺の手で躍らせる and specially when used with supposedly intransitive movement verbs like 孤独の道を歩く. As for の it's used in plenty of different ways so there's a lot of room for confusion. In particular I think the sentence ending の takes a while to understand well. I can also see people being confused when it completely replaces the object on which it should be indicating attribution on, e.g. それは僕のだから、触ったら殺すぞ.

>>135701490
You could also press delete once and never see it again. Your point?

>>135701598
You can also quit and never see it again. Not suspending a card is all about attitude.

I WILL NOT QUIT.
YOU WILL NOT BEAT ME.
I SHALL LEARN YOU.

You guys know suspending a card doesn't permanently lock it down or delete it, right? You can just unsuspend it a few months later and they'll likely be much easier to remember rather than letting it constantly fail and getting up to 20+ lapses.

>try reading yotsubato for first time
>get stuck on first page
>一杯　is in hiragana

oh lots of it is...fun

>>135701843
Adverb, No-adjective, Na-adjective
4. fully; to capacity Usually written using kana alone
5. a lot; much Usually written using kana alone

Noun - used as a suffix, Adverbial noun
6. all of ...; the entire ... Usually written using kana alone

>>135701843
Yotsuba usually talks "in hiragana" most of the time, but いっぱい is usually written in kana anyways. Grab the Yotsuba reading pack and use the html vocab list for vol 1 as training wheels. Helped me a lot when I was starting.

>>135701843
>being unable to read いっぱい
Ah, ankidrones.

>>135701735
So is banging your head against a wall.

I WILL NOT QUIT
YOU WILL NOT BEAT ME
I SHALL KEEP BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST YOU

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>>135701843

A lot of common words and sayings in general are usually written in kana, just gotta learn 'em separately.

Jisho usually mentions if that's the case and if you have rikaisama, that's what the "uk" stands for.

>>135701904
ah i see, thanks

>>135701907
yo man i read the damm guide, and im slow at getting through the grammar but ive pounded anki in the bum for a month

>>135701955
>just gotta learn 'em separately.
Why would you have to do this. Are you perhaps not learn the pronunciation of words written with kanji when doing anki?

>>135701490
Are you retarded or trolling?

>>135701955
ah thats what that means, sweet
i do use rikaisama and this shit
http://moc.sirtetris.com/enlargeJapanese.user.js

since i havent updated my lens script in ages

>>135701973
The issue is that somehow you'd learned 一杯 without learning いっぱい. That's literally impossible if you're actually studying correctly.

Instead, what you've probably done is something incredibly stupid like remember 一杯 as "a full cup" or something.

>>135702043
yeah i probably fucked up somewhere, but it still feels better to try and read before too many kanji 'that are usually kana' show up in anki

>want to install ATLAS for text hooking
>trial is expired
fug

>>135702125
But you should be learning the fucking pronunciation for the kanji. That way when you see いっぱい, you won't be confused at all.

Yotsuba basically always speaks in kana anyway.

>>135702148
Isn't ATLAS a machine translator? Or are you just funposting?

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>>135702043
「ひとさかずき」とルビが振ってある文章があったら、そう読むことになっているとおもうよ。

沢山に「いっぱい」のルビが振ってあったりすることもあるかもしれないし

いっしょに、がんばろう。おにいちゃん

>>135701992

一杯 and いっぱい aren't generally used the same way, if you study them as the same word you're probably going to get the usages mixed up.

>>135699881
>>135700077
も、萌え～

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>>135702218
あと、それを二回続けて言うと、別の単語になるよ。

>いっぱいいっぱい
>in tense situations

>>135702498
>いっぱいいっぱい
>in tense situations
How does this even work? I can understand shit like "giving your absolute all", you don't even need another card for that.

>>135702498
Do you read VNs? You should recommend some imouto approved™ VNs to us.

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>>135702553
>一杯一杯
>one's mind like absolutely full of a cap of fluid
みたいな感じ。心に余裕がないこと。

一杯と、一杯一杯は別単語だよ。

あたしのEngrishはまともじゃないので気を付けてね。

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>>135702783
>あたし

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あたしのEngrishはあてにならないので、こっちを読んでくだしゃんせ。にぃにぃ

>イッパイイッパイ
http://tenshoku.mynavi.jp/global/knowhow/English/015

Person 1: アレックスは私の家族よ？！ やっぱり愛情をこめて手作りで作ってあげないと

Person 2: だったらなおちら一人で作れよ

What does the なおちら mean in the last line? I'm sure it's something super basic but my brains not registering it

>>135703059
Never mind I was just reading the さ as a ち
Durp

>>135703119
I thought it was something like that.

リフトを買う人手挙げて―

Kanzen Master gets recommended all the time for the N1 here but how about the 40 day version? It seems like less daunting of a task.

>砕く砕石
>砕(く)砕(石)
>砕砕
>ください
面白いよ。

>all these chexmix words

>まぶた
Why are japs so dumb? It's eyeLIDS, not eyePIGS.

>>135703513
蓋

>>135703513

Anon...

>>135703566
>>135703562
I think he was just being facetious.

>>135703625

Probably, but this is /djt/ after all.

>>135703457
>chexmix words
What the hell is a chexmix word?

>>135703651
Yes, this. I also want to know what this wonderful new madeup term means so that I can use it too.

>>135703651
>>135703675
I'd also like to jump on the train

>>135703651
>>135703675
>>135703899
>all these chexmixgnorant people

>>135701955
>A lot of common words and sayings in general are usually written in kana, just gotta learn 'em separately.

I've found the opposite to hold true.

Simple words are all in kanji, complicated non-JLPT words are almost 90% of the time in hiragana or in some works they'll be the only ones with furigana added to them.

I guess it makes sense, most japanese probably know how to say a word but might not recognize the kanji used for it.

>>135701490
Press @ while reviewing...that's it

oh the effort

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ZWNYZ48oEu

How long do you new to learn the new cards in your anki decks ? I need 30 mins for 10 new cards and 30 min for reps. That sums up to 1h and I hardly exceed that 1h mark...
how do people learn 20+ new cards a day ?

>>135704360
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0QEKKtaJfuu

>>135704405

It's mostly a matter of quantity over quality, some people have an easier time learning a lot of cards without focusing too much on memorizing them and relying on learning them by repetition.

Just find whatever pace works for you and ignore everyone else, only change things if you yourself feel like you're going too slow or too fast.

>>135704405
As you get used to learning through anki, reps become faster.

>>135704405
Some people learn even more cards. I guess some people learn only the reading. Front is Kanji only and back rest. Some people though learn to write them which is more time consuming

>>135705341
Is this the description for one of those robot waifus?

>>135705341
>even says feedback in katakana
>translated to "oneness"
Real smart.

>>135705625
I assumed it was a keyboard.

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>幼
>幻

>>135705625
It's a topre keyboard.

They should hire some better translators, given how much their keyboards cost.

>>135705673
>>>even says feedback in katakana
>>translated to "oneness"

>一体感

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おっさんっぽい彼女がないとその切ない気持ち…マジで痛いな、胸が痛い
はやく殺してくれ

>>135705719
I've seen enough TL scams that I know they could've paid plenty for the TL despite how bad the TL is.

>>135705701
I
l

Literally indistinguishable with my font

>>135705762
switch to noto sans

>>135705751
Kill it with fire.

>>135705751
いいえ！しぬなよ！彼女は君の心で存在するじゃないか?

>>135705867
心の中の彼女はそもそも彼氏じゃねえ？
持ち主は男だから

>>135705751
殺せって、わがままだな
死にたいなら人に迷惑をかけずに自分で自分の命を絶つんだ

>>135706056
嫌だ
自殺は怖い
すべてが怖い

>>135706138
まったくもー、しょうがないわね
じゃあ、今回だけだからね
今そっちに殺しに行くからじっと待っててね

>>135699919
What does changing the steps to 16 20 do?

Mine's in the default 1 10...

>>135706262
http://ankisrs.net/docs/manual.html#learning

>>135706211
他の人が気に障るから殺しに行くの方がわがままなんだよアホ

>>135699999
HOLY FUCKING FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

ケーキは持って食べられない

>>135699999
In your honor I'll do a thousand reviews today.

I'm pretty sick of all the changing consonants and similar onyomis that kanji have in vocab

90% of my failed cards in anki are cards that I easily know the meaning of but lost the 50/50 gamble of saying the right reading for one of the kanji

It's bullshit, how are you supposed to memorise which of the hundreds of words that start with 不 are ふ and which ones are ぶ, or which words with 人 are にん or じん, or which words with 街 are がい or かい

I know that sometimes it's obvious which is which because one will just roll off the tongue easier than the other, but in reality that only counts for like 10% of times, and it doesn't apply at all if the kanji in question is at the start of the words like mentioned above

Is there some sort of logic as to which reading is being used in jukugo? Because I feel that the vast majority of times it's just luck based and it's making anki a terrible experience

>>135707451
>but in reality that only counts for like 10% of times
90%*

I'll give you that 不 and 人 are good examples of things you just have to memorize. For 不 it's ふ 90% of the time though. There's no 50/50 there.

>it doesn't apply at all if the kanji in question is at the start of the words like mentioned above
Words don't start with 連濁. If it's at the start of the word and it's a voiced sound then that's actually the pronunciation of the kanji.

>>135707451
gid gud

>>135707451
>It's bullshit, how are you supposed to memorise which of the hundreds of words that start with 不 are ふ and which ones are ぶ, or which words with 人 are にん or じん, or which words with 街 are がい or かい

Just mark them as correct, if it's literally a single change in consonant/vowel and not that you forgot the meaning it doesn't really matter.

Unless you have serious plans of visiting japan or are in a business environment nobody is ever gonna give a shit.

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>>135707694
>Just mark them as correct, if it's literally a single change in consonant/vowel and not that you forgot the meaning it doesn't really matter.

>>135707570
I'm not really talking about just consonant changes, but similar sounded onyomi in general still have the same effect, and it pisses me off the most when its at the start

Maybe I just have unfortunate mining decks because it definitely feels close to 50/50 to me anyway

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Have any of you taken the JCAT test?
If so, what score did you get and how long have you been studying?
Do you think it is accurate an assessment?

>>135700077
If you dont get feedback you wont improve.keep posting in english

>>135707933
>Do you think it is accurate an assessment?
Wait for the JLPT scores to come in so people can compare those to their JCAT scores

>>135707933
Is it all spoken questions? I was going to check it out but my listening comprehension is terrible

>>>/vg/127553404

Reminder to go put a CFW on your 3ds to pirate your shitty jap games without having to import anything

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>>135707933
Yes.
Pic related.
2 and a half years.
Don't know, don't care. I assess my language skills by how well they serve me in practice.

>>135708135
The test covers:

聴解 / Listening
語彙 / Vocabulary
文法 / Grammar
読解 / Reading.

>>135708177
Ooo that's good then guess I'll do it

>>135708177
>語彙
oy vey

kooonnnichiwaaa :D

>>135709476
ohio :)

>>135709508
Anglo scum leave.

>>135709508
genki desu ka? :D

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>>135709554
ESLs are not welcome here.

Casual racism is all fun and good, but you should know when to switch from casual racism to getting your gun out and protecting your constitutionally protected rights from the afro-american gentleman.

>>135709574
genki desu yo. raamen o tebetai? doraibu ni itte raamen o tabemashou. :)

>>135709730
You should have vectorised the entire image to make the zoom look good, and then made it a webm.

>>135709730
>zooming in on 日
It is like everyday we are going to do our best.
I'm probably more of a 「あしたはがんばるぞ！」 person.

I'm total newbie should I still get the Core 2k_6k Optimized Japanese Vocabulary.apkg Anki deck ? Any advise on optimum values? I'm going to be trying to read Japanese in Mangaland and Genki 1+2, is this ok?

>>135709922
You need to read the OP you cunt.

How can I set my reps to go from highest ease to lowest

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>read VNs without texthooker or looking up too many words
>understand the majority of the text
>look up a VN on youtube, see a playthrough
>realize my reading speed, despite not using a texthooker, is god awful, and at best is way slower than a native who's not even trying
>probably 1/3 to 1/4 of the speed assuming the line doesnt make me double take
;_;

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>>135710198
give a couple of months and it will become second nature anon, you got this, just read a lot

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>>135710244
I've been reading for about a year, without a texthooker for months.

27 year-old polak here. Which one would be more likely to master in let's say 10 years, Chinese or Japanese? I personally am told that Chinese is so hard that even after spending more than 10 years is not enough for reading gazette or somewhat more sophisticated talk. Also isn't it too late for me to get started?

>>135710526
I can't tell if you're trolling.
If you read every day and study properly you can "master" any language in 5 or so years.

>>135710526
It's too late, give up now and go away.

I haven't seen this in Tae Kim or any grammar resource thus far yet, but in manga I've been seeing a lot of characters going "危ない、逃げるんだ！！”　or using んだ to tell people to do things like it's なさい or something like that. Are they using the の particle to inform everyone of a thing they need to do without ordering them to it in the ordinary way?

>>135710526

It's never too late to start, but I don't think many people here know much about studying Chinese.

That said 10 years is an insanely long time and you can probably master both of those languages in that time if you actually go for it.

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Post a picture of the hardest non-Manhyogana Japanese you've ever seen.

I have a lot of pictures "In media folder but not used by any cards" and a lot of audio "used on cards but missing from media folder"

hope it doesn't matter

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>>135710573
Another victim of the Tae Kim meme

>>135710583
I hope for your own sake that you're joking or just a very early beginner.

>>135710745
I was scrolling through my images looking for meme-level hard Japanese but couldn't find any, that's why I'm asking. In the meantime, enjoy my image.

>>135710842
That's a rad post. I sure hope you're not banned for it.

>一度っきりの人生

What is this supposed to mean? I know all the words but I can't seem to make sense of it. Is it something along the lines of "Only once in your life"? It's the title of a piece of music, by the way

>>135711155
YOLO

Are the Shadowing Japanese books in the CoR? I found the audio files, but not the book.

>>135711188
?

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Yo what are some interesting sites/whatever written in Japanese?

I love the Japanese language (have been studying it for 5 years now) but I still cannot reliably come across content that interests me.

Yeah, reading manga in Japanese is cool, it gives me an intellectual boner making sense of Japanese, but the fucking plot itself almost always sucks. Like, I never feel a desire to pick up a manga again once I read a chapter or two.

The only exceptions being Berserk, Gantz, and Inuyashiki. All other manga that I've read have been about fucking up the bad guys or have gone all diatribic on my ass about boring themes that Japs have a hard on for because they were all brought up through the same education system and as such have very similar egos that focus on similar things etc etc etc

Where in the hell can I find INTERESTING stuff written in Japanese? Like, interesting as in like page-turners, interesting as in tickling the dopamine systems in my brain so that I can't stop reading. All I can find is shite. Also, I cannot find the new Berserk raws for the life of me.

WHY JAPANESE PEOPLE

>>135711260
It means you only live once.

More specifically, this unique convergence of events that you call "you" will only occur once in the history of existence.

The next convergence of events that forms a new "you" immediately upon the death of this "you" will be something entirely different.

>>135711271
Try reading something that isn't shounen.

>>135711271
You might have had a point if you didn't enjoy trash. I can't understand how you can enjoy stuff like that and somehow think most stuff sucks.

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>>135711271
That stuff is out there you know. Have you tried reading manga from Makoto Yukimura (Vinland Saga), Kouji Mori (Holyland, Suicide Island), Satoshi Mizukami (Hoshi no Samidare), Kengo Hanazawa (I Am a Hero), or Naoki Urasawa (PLUTO (!!!), Monster)?

>>135711271
Have you tried normal, adult novels?

How do Japanese convey such things as phrasal verbs in English? As for Chinese, as far as i know there is no such things whatsoever, and that gave me an excuse to contemplate about the richness of our language as well as uncertainty regarding learning chinese, therefore i'm asking whether Japanese is worth it?

>>135711535
How is Berserk trash? It's almost objectively the best drawn manga series in existence, that fact alone makes it objectively not trash and at the very least catapults it into average territory.

Basically: I'm tired as fuck of going from manga to manga trying to find one that hooks me because 99% of them don't, and the alternative to manga for reading in Japanese are
>VN
VNs are boring as shit
>Literature
Try finding books written in Japanese online. It's impossible apart from old ass books (bunko) which are boring
>News/Blogs/Imageboards/Internet shit
Requires no elaboration. It is shit

>>135711683
>It's almost objectively the best drawn manga series in existence, that fact alone makes it objectively not trash
Even it that were true, the idea that you think art is that important in manga makes you a complete fuckwit.

I don't understand why you enjoy some flavors of shit but not all the other flavors of shit.

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>>135711683
>VNs are boring as shit
You just make yourself look like an uncultured idiot if you call an entire medium shit, you know.
>Basically: I'm tired as fuck of going from manga to manga trying to find one that hooks me because 99% of them don't,
Stop being a baby and suck it up, having to search through a lot of shit to find stuff that pleases you is the prince you pay for having ridiculous standards.

>>135711558
I'll have to try that shit then, thanks for the suggestions
>>135711563
Shit is impossible to find. Fucking nips are strict as balls with stuff being released online.

If you know where to find that shit, then by all means I'll be thankful as fucking fuck but I'm seriously doubting that shit

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>>135711753
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=search&cats=2_13&filter=0&term=
>Searching torrents (46493)

>>135711753
The 詰め合わせ 三 in the CoR has a bunch of normal novels in txt format

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>>135710583

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>>135711790
>>135711831
Thanks bruvs, I'm just fucking retarded basically and high so I overlook shit in front of my eyes.

>>135711993
This guy >>135710745 talked tough but couldn't back it up

>>135711732
>the idea that you think art is that important in manga makes you a complete fuckwit.

Not that guy, but it's a visual art form. I wouldn't be reading comic books or watching cartoons at all if I only cared about writing.

I am finally starting to internalise and remember the verb conjugations. Past, negative, and past-negative for godan and ichidan. I've spent way longer on this than I did for adjective or noun conjugations. Does it get any harder than this? TK seems to suggest verbs are the most complex part of the grammar

>>135711271
You sound like such a fedora-lord, holy shit.

>>135710583
Don't have a picture (sorry), but what game is that from? Just curious.

>>135711683
Here's an amazing idea:

Instead of deciding everything in Japanese is shit because you're an ignorant foreign, actually go out and search for things you find in Japanese instead of talking about it here.

You are able to do that, right?

>>135712497
*find interesting

>>135712497
He mentioned being high, it must have rotted his brain.

>>135712358
The worst isn't behind you until you've got the passive, causative and causative-passive forms down, as far as verbs are concerned.

>>135712471
Silverio Vendetta

>>135711683
>Try finding books written in Japanese online. It's impossible apart from old ass books (bunko) which are boring
You can't possibly be that stupid.
amazon.co.jp

Although if you think all older Japanese novels are boring, you're probably too much of a dimwit to appreciate anything of value anyway. You might as well just crawl into a hole and die.

>>135712358

Verb conjugations are a massive part of the language so yeah, learning how they all work and interact is no doubt the biggest hurdle. Doubly so if you want to produce stuff yourself.

That said I have bad news for you if you think the stuff you listed is all there is to it.

I rather say no to Japanese language simply due to my already gained ability to speak English! Why don't Japanese learn ours?

>>135712830
...because they don't need to. Japan doesn't care if you can understand anime and mango. They're not making it for you.

>>135712830
They try, but their limited intellect prevents them from becoming intelligible.

>>135712744
Thanks. It made me think of Dies Irae for some reason, but I guess I wasn't too far off the mark.

Can someone explain 露骨な?

>>135707933
took one today ~120 total trying,
after that did a second one and used dice to determine the result - got 80pts

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>Correct answers on mature cards: 24/28 (85.7%)

>>135713163

な = slurred ね

>>135713163
A literal translation might be "with its bones exposed to the dew." It means openly, conspicuously, completely unhidden.

As in, 露骨にイヤな顔をする, to openly make a disgusted face.

>>135713247
Don't worry, be happy.

>>135713435
Thanks, it's all good now.

>>135713319
>>135713342
Thanks guys

Japanese' writing is so ugly compared to Chinese' one

>>135705341
I wish my keyboard gave me a good feeling of oneness with cup rubber. Not every my fleshlight does that.
羨しいなあ

>>135713539
All asian scribbles are ugly compared to a proper writing system.

>>135713609
why do i have to know moon runes to read my mango?

>>135712822
>you're probably too much of a dimwit to appreciate anything of value anyway

I don't know why in the hell I'm still in this thread but yes lol. It's a herculean task to find something I'm interested in/something I'll spend more than 45 minutes at a time doing (besides 4chan, of course).

>>135713609
>proper writing system
Like Korean?

>>135713609
alphabet mustard race desu

I wonder how does Japanese twat taste like and whether where is any difference between Chinese' and Japanese' one.

Hello everyone, I want to start learning and feel pretty motivated.
I already learned the kanji, and I would like to get started on kanji learning.
I think I've got a pretty well fit memory for this kind of stuff, I'm not intending to brag but I have to at least show my abilities to induce people in thinking I am serious in my requests.
So, does anyone could show me where to learn kanji that are often used, how to use them and some more information stuff please ?

>>135713857
Korean is dog shit disgusting

>>135713900
"learnt kana" I mean, my bad

>>135713539
>>135713886
I don't think apostrophes work the way you think they do.

In fit of my licking of a Japanese pussy i instantly forgot that that was actually a Chinese woman

>>135713972
the fuck are you talking about?

>>135713900
Your memory is pretty bad if you've already forgotten the message in the OP saying to read the guide before asking questions.

>>135713990
of your mother

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>start reps at 3:10pm, 10 minutes late
>somehow manage to finish right before 4pm, despite usually taking until 5pm-6pm
Today's a good day.

Did anybody see a prolapsed japanese anal? I overwatched plenty of asian porn but none of them were about anal prolapse

How long should tae kim take? I've finished half of it but it's so boring, I've been thinking of just quickly finishing it and do genki while reading for a more thorough grammar explanation.

So basically, can I get tae kim done in a day?

>>135714143
oh my god
I thought ankislaves were just a meme
I'm so sorry for you

Is Spice and Wolf difficult to read?

>>135714279
Everything is difficult to read if you don't have the grammar and vocab.

>>135714279
sorry, did get your Engrish

If I'm a 30 year-old wizard, is it worth takeing some japanese courses to get some oriental pussy?

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Man, 漂流教室　was a really awesome horror manga that was also pretty easy to read (furigana everywhere). I very much recommend it.

>>135714389
t. tyrone

>>135714206
What do you mean?

>>135714468
Taking 3 hours to do your reps every day is ankislaving.

>>135714508
It only takes that long because I tab out a lot. That's why today is a good day. I focused long enough to knock them out in an hour.

>>135714508

He might be a procrastinator who spends more time in /djt/ than doing his reps.

>>135714508
>>135714206
Also, reading is easy enough to me that reading doesn't actually help me get better, so anki is all I have left to do to practice (+ listening practice). I'd be better off if it seriously took me 3 hours to do anki.

I started out yesterday to learn japanese and it was so difficult!! Gave up

>>135714591
Try your hardest tomorrow! That is what I do.
Tomorrow I will do my best.

>>135714591
>>135714643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DejrMMfy20

I'd like to be reborn Chinese who'd know in addition English and Japanese

>>135714822
>I'd like to be reborn Chinese
why

>>135714711
Thank God I had audio muted

>>135714878
The country itself is better and also I happened to be fan of 'God of Gamblers' movie

Hey guys what's the difference between 三国 and 新解, and which do you recommend?

>>135714878
So he can experience everything being ripped of first hand.
All those bootlegs must be pretty cool.

>>135714922
If you were reborn as Chinese you'd probably be poor as dirt.

>>135714922
Too bad Chinese sounds ugly as fuck.

>>135714936
The latter cause it reminded me of your mom

>>135714966
your mommy sounds as fart out of my hole

>>135714922
Romance of the Three Kingdoms would be neat, but only if I could be like one of those cool generals from my Dynasty Warriors games

>Have seen about 2000 cards in anki. Most are young
>Begin watching some Japanese videos subtitled in English
>Although I have to use subtitles as a crutch, I can get the gist of what people are saying
Although there's still a lot of work to do, it feels amazing to have some result.

>>135710198
>reading speed
I can manage around 25-30 pages of an LN in an hour, which still seems to be a lot slower than natives who read a whole volume in an afternoon.
But I took JLPT N1 this december and managed to get through the reading section without running out of time, so that can't be too slow, I guess?

>>135714397
Why do the Japanese suck at horror?

>>135707933
took it after 6 months, 147
took it again 6 months later, 197

>>135715269
Cut off the English subtitles entirely and see how much of a gist you get.

/worldcultivation

>>135715269
Nigger I could do that before starting core

>>135714201
Doesn't matter, just read through it at your own pace and make notes as you go. That'll both improve your retention and let you review stuff fast without reading through paragraphs of boring bullshit about state of being and whatever.

>>135714201
>So basically, can I get tae kim done in a day?
Sure, but you'll remember fuck all of it. Doing something like that would be good as a stepping stone into the DoJG deck, as it will give you a foundation to dive directly into it, striking while everything is still fresh enough in your mind, and letting the greater detail, examples and descriptions of the deck really drill what you've read in greater depth while keeping it in memory, with the aid of the SRS behind Anki.

Word of the day: 矮小陰茎

日本と言ったらやっぱりこれですね
もういっそのこと、「倭小陰茎」と書けばいいよ

>>135716183
にほんの彼処はだまだめ

Had an impressive number of leeches today. I think for someone like me it's better to just mark them and keep trying to brute force them or I'll end up with half the deck suspended.

>>135716350
You probably didn't do RTK.

>>135716367
Of course I didn't you fucking faggot piece of shit.

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>>135716442

>>135716442
Then why are you complaining?
It's either bruteforcing your way through like a dumb nigger or doing RTK and actually knowing what you are looking at.

>>135716518
>RTK
>Being helpful in any way

>>135716518
RTK is nothing but brute forcing a bunch of bullshit into your brains.

>>135716581
No no no, you see if I remember that this kanji is a wounded snail I CAN learn Japanese!

>>135716581
>RTK is nothing but brute forcing
Remember the Kanji is exactly the opposite of brute forcing.

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>>135716546
>>135716581

>started doing RTK because at about 1k cards into Core10k kanji is the main thing that makes me fumble with words
>even doing 30 characters a day it'll likely take me one and a half month before I actually get to the kanji that I'm messing up
i'm not complaining but i'm way too impatient for this

I can't learn Japanese.

>>135716982
Half a month isn't really very long. Try to find something else to distract you while you continue at that pace.

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Gonna dump some Skyrim in Japanese screenshots for those curious as to what it looks like.
1/8

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Settings are on low by the way
2/8

>>135716982
If you're seriously doing RTK you should know it's a meme to trick new posters.

>>135717048
Well done, you have finally completed the final stage of Japanese learning. You are ready to graduate from DJT.

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3 / 8

>>135717125
I tried playing it in JP some time after release, but all of the translation errors made me reinstall the English files after 2 days.

>>135717189
Funny thing is, the anti-RTK meme is a meme to trick new posters

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>>135717212
Didn't bother me too much. What are you referring to, exactly?

God I hate Skyrim. At least it was easy to stop playing games when the whole industry went to shit.

>>135717125
>>135717168
>>135717204
>>135717241
A shit game is still shit in Japanese.

>>135717204
jesus christ that font

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>>135717247
Yeah, especially after playing legitimately good RPGs it's easy to see how universally awful Skyrim is. On the other hand, the fact it's in Japanese made it worth a second look for me. Still bad, but was kind of fun in a brainless way. 8/8

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>>135717212
>but all of the translation errors made me reinstall the English files after 2 days.
Yeah, I'm sure you know better, anon.

>>135717219
Yeah, keep sucking Heisig's dick.

>とおちゃんここ家いっぱいあるな

>お母さん: そーだろー、お店もあろぞ

my brain is full of fuck
yotsuba is talking about her father apparently, a/his/their house, thats here and it exists to be full?

her mother agrees with this, says the shop is also[full]?

maybe she meant to say her fathers shop is full or something, and the mother corrected her slightly?

previous page says they're almost there, so assuming they're heading to this shop, rather than from their house

>>135717125
How is the Japanese translation for Fallout 4?

>>135717296
>his katakana name takes up half the width of the screen
ワロス

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This is your anki on light novels.

>>135717370
>家いっぱいある
There are many houses

>お店もあろ
There are stores too

>>135717370
>dad - here - house - lots - are/exist
>like this/indeed - are, shop - too - are/exist - zo

>>135717373
I have no idea, I'm not even sure if Skyrim's is "good". It's complete, at the very least.

>>135717478
wow anon you must have completed RTK to obtain that kind of mastery.

>>135717351
Having put more hours into the English version than I'd care to admit I can say with confidence that some things in the Japanese translation were off or just flat-out wrong, yes.

>>135717504
Talk shit when you can understand the first line of a children's book.

>>135717189
I'm doing vocab, RTK, tae kim + genki for grammar simultaneously and so far all of those seem to synergize pretty well with each other.

I actually want to learn how to write and be able to decipher handwriting and RTK seems to be especially good for just that.

>>135717370
"Dad, there are a ton of houses here, huh."
"Yup, shops too."

Are you retarded?

>>135717438
>many
they use いっぱい for that, ok..jisho says that is number 5 on the definition under full, my bad

this means shes calling her mother 'daddy'
this kid...

>>135717567
yes, immensely

RTK is for WRITING KANJI
if you aren't WRITING KANJI consistently there's no reason to sidetrack into the shitshow that is RTK.

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>>135717370
>Yotsuba
>her mother
anon...

>>135717576
>this means shes calling her mother 'daddy'
>this kid...

Anon...

>>135717370
This is why you learn basic fucking grammar.

>>135717731

im trying to read for the first time ever, so sorry i didnt instantly pick it up like you
and it wasnt the grammar anyway, it was the definition of いっぱい

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>>135717731
But anon, obviously reading with 0 words before even going through Tae Kim is a brilliant plan with no flaws. Just rikai yourself to victory!

>>135717802
>one defeat
holy shit

>>135717802
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>135717841
>>135717884

>DJT
>if you cant already read, fuck off

y-you too

>>135717978
Why would you be trying to read if you don't know basic grammar and vocab?

>Add an extra step in Anki
>Set new interval to 0
FUCK WHOEVER SAID TO DO THIS
I HATE waiting. Fuck this fuck this fuck this!

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>>135718110
>I HATE waiting. Fuck this fuck this fuck this!
It gives you objective benefits in retention. Just set a time for 30 minutes and come back when it rings. Ask yourself right now: Would you rather have better success with Japanese, or would you rather not have to wait and cheat through reps?

>>135718030

im up to tae kims adverbs and sentence-ending particles, a decade of anime osmosis and a month into anki, thought it was enough, guess its really not

i really did learn that fucking word いっぱい as full and not 'lots of' or 'many', i doubt i would have known otherwise if i didnt try and read